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Episode Date: February 12, 2024

Matthew Coller talks about the Chiefs winning again behind Patrick Mahomes, what the Super Bowl says about the Vikings and the NFL Network report linking the Vikings and Sam Darnold Learn more about y...our ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 everybody welcome into our super bowl reaction show here on Purple Insider. Matthew Collar here, and it is Patrick Mahomes' world, and we are all just living in it. This is now an incredible dynasty, and we thought it was over after Tom Brady, and then Patrick Mahomes has picked up where Tom Brady left off. And for me, this game is kind of defined in a lot of ways by the opportunities that San Francisco missed. The small mistakes that were made throughout the game that left the door open for Patrick Mahomes after an ugly start to the season. I'm sorry, to the game for the Kansas City Chiefs. I mean, they really struggled off the bat.
Starting point is 00:01:10 You had people kind of freaking out a little bit. Travis Kelsey kind of freaking out a bit. I guess it actually was right that it was an ugly start to the season as well for Kansas City, and they got it together. And that's what Patrick Mahomes does for you, right? Is that no matter what you go through, no matter what troubles you have throughout the year,
Starting point is 00:01:29 receivers dropping passes, drama, attention from all angles for the Kansas City Chiefs throughout this season. And then at the end of the day, Patrick Mahomes shows up, takes them through one of the most incredible runs in the playoffs that has ever happened. If you consider the teams they had to face, they had to beat the Miami Dolphins in a really difficult game in freezing weather. And then they had to go to Buffalo and win in an incredibly
Starting point is 00:01:54 difficult place to win, go to Baltimore, be probably the best team in the NFL. And then despite getting down in this game, despite struggling in this game, they end up finding a way to win on a Patrick Mahomes first down run on fourth down. He scrambled again at the end of the game there to get another big gain. And that is kind of reminiscent of what happened last year against Philadelphia, is his scrambling ending up playing a huge role at the end of the night and Kansas City is once again the Super Bowl champions and the team that everybody else has to envy and has to chase and I think when we're talking about the greatest quarterbacks of all time if you couldn't put Patrick Mahomes there yet you most certainly can after this game. And, you know, I think this is a really interesting
Starting point is 00:02:46 question that Harbor asks here. In hindsight, the Niners should have gone for it on fourth down. It was, I think, fourth and four when they kicked the field goal. And the crazy part is San Francisco's defense gets them to fourth and one, and you need to stop on fourth and one and instead finds a way but you're probably right i mean they went for it on a fourth down earlier in the game and they ended up getting that fourth down and uh it's funny how that won't be debated that fourth down kyle shanahan went for because we only debate uh dan campbell fourth downs when they get missed but if you had to do it again yes yes, you would have
Starting point is 00:03:25 gone for it at the end of the game. And it's a bunch of little things for San Francisco that added up to giving Mahomes these opportunities. I mean, how about a punt that goes off of the foot of a San Francisco player? How about a blocked extra point? Now, if not for the blocked extra point, then maybe the Chiefs are playing for a touchdown at the end and they score it. Who knows how that ends up playing out? But the special teams were a special part of this game. And I think what Patrick Mahomes teaches us is that when you are the greatest, nobody else can ever make a mistake. They can never open the door because that guy will smash through it. It was true of Michael Jordan. It was true of Kobe Bryant. It's true of Steph Curry. It's true of Tom Brady that any time a team makes a mistake,
Starting point is 00:04:18 this guy finds a way to take advantage. And just like Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes could have no Super Bowls. In every one of these, they were down. And then they found a way to come back because all the tiniest mistakes will add up to give that man an opportunity to come back and win. And what else can you say about Kansas City and about Patrick Mahomes that they always just find a way. I would add though, that it was very impressive throughout this game. The way that Steve Spagnuolo, the defensive coordinator of the Kansas city chiefs called this game.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I think they did a really brilliant job. San Francisco was moving the ball early in the game, but San Francisco got a little bit anxious. I thought, and didn't run the ball as much as they were early in the game because Christian McCaffrey was incredible in this football game. But there was a section of time when they came out of halftime where they just didn't really give it to McCaffrey very often. And their offense got stagnant.
Starting point is 00:05:20 And I thought Spagnuolo did a really good job of messing with them a bit messing with Brock Purdy and in the biggest moment they have a defensive tackle who repeatedly Chris Jones over and over and over again finds a way to get in a quarterback's face when there's a chance for that quarterback to win you think about Buffalo go back to that game Josh Allen late in that game has a chance to throw a touchdown. Chris Jones breaks through and he's not able to make the throw. Same here where you could see that Jawan Jennings was going to be open and instead he couldn't get him the ball because Chris Jones was in his face. The other part of this too that really stood out to me as far as Kansas city and their defense is just how impressive their secondary is that if you have a secondary like that,
Starting point is 00:06:10 I it's, it's really, really difficult, even if you have great wide receivers. So they had, you know, Debo Samuel's a bit banged up. Brandon Iuke was not a huge part of this football game. George Kittle was not a big part of this football game. George Kittle was not a big part of this football game. And one of the main reasons was because of the way that the secondary performed for the chiefs, LeJarrius Sneed, Trent McDuffie. I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:34 if we're taking away lessons for the Minnesota Vikings, as we so often try to do, having my homes, isn't a lesson. That's a hope. And that's a dream. Although you do only get that guy through the draft. So maybe that's your lesson.
Starting point is 00:06:48 But the other lesson is that the secondary that the Vikings had this year, you can't just have an average secondary, a mediocre secondary, and hope that it's going to work out. And from the other side of things, we also saw on the defensive line, and both defensive lines played really well in this game, but San Francisco gave the chiefs a lot of problems. They did not let Isaiah Pacheco get going. They didn't allow the chiefs to get first downs with running the football. And that was a big part of it too, that they really forced Mahomes to have to do a lot and his weapons to have to do a lot because of the talent that they had so a little bit different style in the way that they're built
Starting point is 00:07:30 but I think in a big game like this you see how important those elements are on defense and even though it's Mahomes that wins championships not necessarily defense in this case their defense played a massive role and it's just unfortunate for the 49ers for Kyle Shanahan who has been an unbelievable coach throughout his career and in this game there will be stuff that you go back and you look at and the start of the second half is probably part of it you had to figure early in the game when San Francisco did not take advantage of some of those Kansas City mistakes and Travis Kelsey pushing his coach coming off of the sideline like they were losing it a little bit and San Francisco was not able to get touchdowns that you know they had to kick a
Starting point is 00:08:18 field goal they did get in the end zone on the throw from Jawan Jennings but there were opportunities for them to score and go up in that game. And that's been Kansas City all year long is that, you know, they've drafted well on defense. They've built a really, really strong unit. They have a great defensive coordinator, a lot of talent, and they were able to hold down San Francisco long enough to give Mahomes a chance to start getting in rhythm, start getting the football to Travis Kelsey. And then in one of the biggest moments, Kelsey showing why he's so great, burning Fred Warner off the line of scrimmage to set up the tying field goal. I am curious, your guys' reaction to a lot of things in this game, the new overtime rules, although it wouldn't have mattered because the last overtime rules still
Starting point is 00:09:03 would have meant a field goal. And then you go down and score a touchdown and it's over. But for sure, the decisions here will be talked about all week for both teams. But in the end, I thought it ended up being a great Super Bowl. I mean, it was boring in the first half and you guys can make your own decisions on the halftime show. Although I am a big fan as a guitar player of her, and it was great to see her come out and rip a solo. So that was cool for me. You guys can decide otherwise whether you liked it or not. But after the halftime show, I felt fatigued. I was like, this game is ugly. It's slow. There are some penalties, not too much over-reffing,
Starting point is 00:09:41 which I have to appreciate that the referees were not a part of this thing at all there was a hold late in the game for trent mcduffie that was super obvious uh there were a couple close calls on spots that you know i thought they mostly got right for those spots uh the majority of the penalties were offside there was a holding or two that was really obvious there was a handoff uh by the 49ers and that was another play that was really obvious there was a handoff by the 49ers and that was another play that really killed them there was a handoff by the 49ers where their backup tight end clearly held and instead of having a first down it ends up backing them up and that may have played a role in them not getting in the end zone and leaving the door open and that's what i mean is
Starting point is 00:10:20 when you play against mahomes you're always leaving the door open just a crack and he's gonna smash right through it like the old high c commercials I mean that's that's who he is that's what the greatest do that's what Tom Brady did for so long and you can't do anything but just respect it and marvel at it and maybe be a little frustrated Adam says Matthew do you think overall NFL fans get fatigued from dynasties? I found myself pretty bored with this matchup and even more annoyed at the very predictable outcome like the Patriots all over. I don't think on the whole dynasties are bad for sports. I do think that they are frustrating though. I mean, you have the best player in the world, Patrick Mahomes,
Starting point is 00:11:02 and then you have a good organization. You have good coaching player in the world, Patrick Mahomes, and then you have a good organization. You have good coaching, offense and defense. And then they have a draft where they get a couple of guys who are really good players. Trent McDuffie's great. Corlaptis is great to go along with Chris Jones. And all of a sudden, they're just super, super hard to beat. And it really felt like this year, just kind of in the same way that it was for
Starting point is 00:11:25 Brady a few times like oh you know maybe they're maybe they are a little bit more beatable maybe they're a little more human and then it turns out they're not I mean I think they only finished 11th in scoring this year and it just didn't matter because when it came down to it they were a good enough complete team around the greatest player in the world. And he had to do a lot in this game because there were some drops out there and there was no real running game. His offensive tackles were getting destroyed by Nick Bosa. Nick Bosa could have been the MVP of this game had he won. Maybe Jennings would have gotten it, but Bosa was an absolute monster throughout this game. And it just didn't matter because my homes made play after play after play and their defense kept them in it. Is it frustrating? Is it fatiguing? As you say, I think that it is. Yeah. When you have the same team
Starting point is 00:12:16 going year after year, I felt this way with the Patriots for sure, where you'd have all sorts of contenders showing up to try to take down the Patriots, and then they would find some way to give it away, whether it was Carolina kicking the ball out of bounds and giving the Patriots the win, or 28-3. It feels that same way, where you're like, the 49ers could have won both their Super Bowls against the Chiefs. They were this close. And to have it happen in overtime is absolutely crushing.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Tim says, Shanahan is this era's dan reeves i know i know or uh i guess it didn't he didn't get as deep in the playoffs but marty schottenheimer was the same way a great great phenomenal coach a phenomenal organization you dream to build your team like this when you you're watching this team out there, they're a better overall team than the chiefs. They're stacked with all pros at every single level and Brock Purdy, there's going to be discussion about Brock Purdy. He made some big plays at big times and had them right there, third and four score a touchdown. And this game goes on and the worst you can do is tie. And instead, you know, some pressure came, couldn't make the play. And I guess if you believe that Brock Purdy is just a game manager and he's not good enough,
Starting point is 00:13:31 then you don't have to be wrong today. But if you believe Brock Purdy is great and maybe all they needed to do was catch a punt and make an extra point, then you could also say that. I thought that overall Brock Purdy played well enough to win. There were times where maybe Kyle Shanahan wasn't at his best. And is it choking or is it just regular mistakes that get made all the time in football, but they're elevated by the fact that you're playing against my homes and he always takes
Starting point is 00:14:00 advantage of them. So, I mean, my opinion of a Purdy won't change. I think he's been a great quarterback all year long who throws the ball to the right place, makes a lot of plays, and made a lot of plays in this game. But he's not the greatest quarterback, and the other team had the greatest quarterback, and that's how they end up winning. I mean, geez, the guy leads. Think about this.
Starting point is 00:14:20 The thin margins for the narratives we tell. The guy leads a go-ahead drive in overtime and did a great job on that drive gets them right there they kick a field goal they take a lead the other team has fourth and one they get a stop on fourth and one brock party super bowl champion and then we're having that conversation about san francisco and what they can be going forward but instead patrick mahomes it is again. Horsefeathers asks, is Mahomes going to be the new Brady? Blah, blah. We have no prayers now. Got to give it to him. His due though. He knows how to come back and win a game for sure. When you have that guy,
Starting point is 00:14:58 historically, it's always kind of been this way. Dynasties are a part of football in the same way they are with basketball basketball is known more for it where it's lakers and celtics but if you look at the afc before mahomes got there how many years was it where it was brady manning or rothlisberger i think there was some stretch of like 15 years where it was only those guys in the afc and then joe flacco mixed in one time and Philip Rivers got left out of that party and plenty of other good teams and quarterbacks along the way. It's, I mean, you got to feel for the 49ers for Kyle Shannon. I mean, this guy has left a graveyard,
Starting point is 00:15:37 just a graveyard of greatness all around him. The only comparison I can make is Jordan with Charles Barkley, with Reggie Miller, with Patrick Ewing, where Jordan just set down so many all-time great basketball players in the same way that Mahomes has put down one of the greatest coaches of the generation twice now in the Super Bowl. And he's put down Josh Allen. He's put down everybody else in the AFC. Who's been great over these years. And what else can you say about it? You can't be mad about it. You can, you can be jealous, I guess. And just say like, Hey, you know, at one point, the only thing I could say to, to make you feel a little better is at one point, Kansas city was the AFC version of the Minnesota Vikings. They were the team that was always good, but not quite great. They had Trent Green, who I think is actually a great Kirk Cousins comparison.
Starting point is 00:16:33 You go back to Elvis Gerback, old Joe Montana. Through the years, a lot of good quarterbacks who couldn't quite get it done. Alex Smith, they get the great quarterback, and off you go. And if you get the greatest quarterback, you're going to be there every single year. And the only difference between Mahomes and someone like Drew Brees is just that things worked out. A lot of times things worked out.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Josh Allen misses a pass. Brock Purdy misses a pass. A guy fumbles off his foot, and then you're Mahomes. And Drew Brees had a lot of those go wrong, including the Minneapolis miracle, the pass interference that wasn't the fumble. So a lot of times that's the difference between the all-time greats. But what Patrick Mahomes has that some of the all-time greats did not have is this ability to run and scramble and make a play when it's most needed.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Fourth down, he ends up running for the first down and then does it again for another key gain in overtime and you can't criticize it you can't knock it you can't try to say well if only this that the other thing this guy and the MVPs he's put up it just feels inevitable it feels unable. And I remember saying when I was spending the week out on radio row in Vegas and I'm going on different shows and everyone asks you, of course, what's your pick for the game? And with every time I was like, San Francisco is the better team. Kansas city wins. And that was my pick because of Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And at the end of the day, even with all the struggles that went into this game, the best quarterback so often ends up winning. And the only lesson I could give you from that is just try to find them. Keep taking shots at them. Don't settle for anything else because it won't get you there. Because at the end of the day, somebody's going to have a better team. Somebody's going to have a better quarterback. If you settle for anything else, Aaron says,
Starting point is 00:18:23 you can't keep watching the homes do what he does in the playoffs and Superbowl and think you should move forward with cousins. Yeah. I think that's a very clear takeaway, regardless of what happened in this game, because the quarterbacks were, are both a lesson in this game. One of them is a,
Starting point is 00:18:38 a playmaking freak boy in Patrick Mahomes. And then the other one is very cheap. And that's how they build a roster with all those all pros. I mean, Javon Hargrave was a monster in this game. How do you think they got them by having a cheap quarterback? That's how they got them because, because Brock Purdy makes $800,000. So they could go out and add chase young. They could go out and add Javon Hargrave and the defensive line of the 49ers almost did it. They almost did what Tampa Bay did to my homes, but man, just another find a way, find a way, find a way. Tim makes a good point. They went away from the run game when McCaffrey was rolling. Yep. And that is probably
Starting point is 00:19:20 going to be a criticism of Kyle Shanahan coming out of this game. And for me, it's hard because it's, I get that. I get that. And there were definitely times in this game where I went, where is McCaffrey? He's just playing so well. They can't stop them. Stick with the run, stick with the run because they were pressuring Purdy. They were forcing them out of the pocket and they were covering those wide receivers extremely well. Their coverage, if there's a big thing for the Vikings to take out of this, it's you have to do better at corner. You can't just say, oh, Byron Murphy, you're fine. A Caleb Evans, let's draft a guy in the fourth and hope and dream. I mean, coverage can cause all sorts of problems. And it did for Brock Purdy. I mean, how many plays all sorts of problems and it did for Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I mean, how many plays Trent McDuffie was in on multiple plays that could have been huge gains or touchdowns where he's knocking the ball away. And yes, I know the Vikings could have drafted him in 2022. So maybe someone will bring that up, but you know, it just, that that's a key part of it. It's never about one guy, but when you also have a team that's super well coached and is really well managed from the top, their front office made great decisions in the draft. They made good decision to move on from Tyree kill. They had wide receiver step up today. Rishi rice is a star like that guy's going to be good for a long time. And so
Starting point is 00:20:40 they have managed everything around Patrick Mahomes extremely well. And that's the difference between having a good legendary quarterback and the greatest legendary quarterback. I think Phil says, if you're a pocket passer, you wasn't winning against these teams tonight. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Because when you get to the Super Bowl, more likely than not, you will play a really good defense. You'll play a great defensive line or you'll play a great secondary. And some of Purdy's best plays, this is the hard thing about Purdy.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I thought he played extremely well throughout this game. And some of his best plays were off schedule and they were where he had to kind of just boop that ball out to Christian McCaffrey, which if they stop Kansas city on fourth down, that's like a legendary play for Brock Purdy. The pocket collapsing, and he just gets it out to McCaffrey and finds a way. It was a, man, it was a really compelling game with so many different elements that we're going to debate forever.
Starting point is 00:21:36 We're going to go back. I mean, the extra point being blocked was just such a huge thing. And how about Jake Moody, if you're that guy? You nailed two 50-yard field goals, but you had one block that was ultimately costly. So how does that guy feel, right? Folks, have you ever heard of test driving a phone network?
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Starting point is 00:22:53 You know, I like to go back and watch these games. A lot of Super Bowls, because everyone's so tight and anxious, they are like this, where the first half, I think I was watching the Patriots versus the Giants, the second version was at 2011. The second one the other night is the same sort of thing. Very low scoring in the first half starts to get going like crazy in the second and ends up being a classic. And I thought this ultimately ended up being a classic Super Bowl. So it was worth it.
Starting point is 00:23:21 It's just that a lot of you were kind of hoping somebody different would win it. And then the air goes out of the building when Patrick Mahomes once again comes home with a victory. But here's another thing to remember. Just always remember this. And I'll probably bring this up 174 times between now and whatever the decision is for the Vikings at quarterback and the draft and so forth, which I've got a rumor from Tom Pellicero to get to. It's in the headline, so I'm not teasing it too well here.
Starting point is 00:23:48 But Patrick Mahomes was not a highly regarded NFL quarterback prospect by mock drafters, big board makers, draft analysts. There were some who really liked him, and there were some who thought he was just kind of like a ball of clay a moldable prospect that had bad footwork and played for a weird offense and just had a big arm and wasn't going to be anything right away and he wasn't anything right away he was on the bench for a year and now he's the greatest quarterback of a generation and is going to make it aren't you guys 28 it's going to make an argument for being the best quarterback ever at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:24:25 And yet, all those draft reports that you read, and this is not to criticize those people. They do the job the best they can. The point is just that nobody really knows, but you have to pick one in order to get Patrick Mahomes. And sometimes it might blow up in your face, but you don't get it unless you believe in one and you take that shot because all these things that we'll read about this guy's shortcomings,
Starting point is 00:24:50 that guy's shortcomings, oh, he's not going to be this, his footwork isn't that or whatever. A lot of times it just doesn't turn out to be what it is, a good or bad. You know, Zach Wilson was supposed to be the next Mahomes and he definitely is not. And I think about that all the time about quarterbacks who were drafted higher than Mahomes like Mitch Trubisky. You just us, the NFL, nobody really knows when it comes to quarterbacks and gosh, is this guy the best proof there were mock drafts going into the 2017 draft that had Patrick Mahomes being drafted 20th, 25th. And then when they drafted him, go back and look at some of that analysis. A lot of analysts thought, well, the Chiefs did a crazy thing. They already have a quarterback. What are they doing? That was a lot
Starting point is 00:25:34 of the analysis on the day that they made that trade and now a third Super Bowl with Patrick Mahomes. So something to keep in mind for the Minnesota Vikings as they go to make that decision is, I don't know how in the world you could watch these playoffs and this Super Bowl and think, yeah, let's bring back Kirk. What a good idea. I just don't know. Because at that point, you are just admitting we don't want to compete. We don't want to compete for that trophy. We want to compete for the fake trophy. We want to compete for maybe we'll win the division. Maybe we'll get in the wild card. Maybe people will still be talking about us into December while we compete for the playoffs in a playoff spot. But at the end of the day, it's the, it's the teams that are built like beasts or the teams that have the all-time great quarterbacks who are the ones that are playing for the big game,
Starting point is 00:26:27 the ones who can make plays, the ones who are mobile, the ones that are dynamic, the ones that cannot be stopped by a simple blitz or a good coverage, the ones that make themselves unstoppable. That is how you actually play for the Super Bowl. So if they bring back Cousins, then they're admitting, we're not playing for that trophy. We're playing for fake trophies. otherwise you should just draft somebody uh jared says the value of an elite defensive tackle definitely a discussion that everyone needs to have i feel uh that they are
Starting point is 00:26:55 sought after or not not talked about enough uh feels like most teams just look for big humans who can tackle chris jones is a special dude, man. Chris Jones is special. That guy will go into the hall of fame one day as one of the best defensive tackles ever. But your point is right on and something that has frustrated the heck out of me for a long time with this team that they have just not gone after a defensive tackle who can rush the passer. So while quarterback is at the absolute top of the list of the thing that they need to address, just not gone after a defensive tackle who can rush the passer. So while quarterback is at the absolute top of the list of the thing that they need to address, if they're going to try to get into this game and have a chance to fight
Starting point is 00:27:33 against my homes at some point, they got to have pressure and it can't just be from one guy. I think what you saw too, in this game was there's more than just one person up front and the defensive tackles of Kansas city made some big plays in this game. They ran some really nice blitzes from Spagnolo, which we know Brian Flores is capable of, but at the end of the game, you need one guy to make a special play. And you know, that guy was the Neil Hunter that they would lean on a lot, but now, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:03 you might end up with the Neil Hunter being a Chicago bear. So there's a lot of work there to do. Javier says, Matthew, would you agree that after this game, the idea of a competitive rebuild has no place, even when the most stacked team, like the 49ers fails against the God mode quarterback, like my homes. Yeah. I mean, so the competitive rebuild is fine in the way that if it results in you picking a quarterback this year and building around that quarterback, then it will have worked out and using the cap space. Because you look at San Francisco, it is actually a good example. How did they get a lot of this talent?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Well, they signed Javon Hargrave. They traded for Chase Young. They traded for Christian McCaffrey. They traded for Chase Young. They traded for Christian McCaffrey. They traded for Trent Williams. You can start acquiring these expensive, terrific players to fight against the best of the best, but you can't do it if you're paying $40 million to a quarterback. That's just a fact of life, I think. And there is a really good case for the Vikings drafting a quarterback, not just looking for Mahomes, but just looking for a Purdy. Like, can you get someone who's good enough to build the stacked roster around?
Starting point is 00:29:12 But you definitely can't build that roster with a huge percentage of the cap space being taken up. And look, I was looking this up the other day. The highest percentage of the cap that Kirk has taken up over the years was 17%. That is crazy. Brock Purdy tonight was taken up, I think, about 1% of the salary cap. 17% to one player is just not feasible. Even if he takes a bit of a deal, you're still talking about, what, 12%, 15%, and you're supposed to work around that and
Starting point is 00:29:46 acquire what a whole defense, very, very hard to do. So I think that San Francisco should be always looked at as if you're not going to have the all-time great quarterback, which only a couple teams have, then you need to be the team that at least can fight on another battleground. And San Francisco was this close fighting on the battleground of defense, running the football effectively. I thought, you know, their offensive line held up for a lot of the game. They just had a great, great team. Oh, it was Kool-Aid, not high C.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I'm sorry. I was going for the old school reference there, and I messed that up. The high C man breaking through the wall. Mark says, is it just me or was there an abnormal amount of kickoffs going through the uprights soon? That is one thing I can't wait to see. Hopefully the NFL will change the kickoff because it's like the Super Bowl is here. All the build up everything else. We've sung the anthem. We've sung God bless America. Every other song we can possibly sing. And here we go. Superbowl. And the it's kicked out of the back of the end zone. Like we got to find a way to make that into some sort of exciting thing. Jared says, nobody should complain about the refs. They were letting the DBs beat the hell out of the wide receivers all night long. Now that's true. And they let them play physically. And I think that that played really to the advantage of the kansas city chiefs legerius need and trent mcduffie uh are very very physical with the receivers but
Starting point is 00:31:12 i thought it was the same on both sides off the line of scrimmage we were seeing travis kelsey get beat up a lot there was a lot of grabbing and everything else going on um you know in this game for both teams and that is totally fine with me. I don't mind if we're going to have a super physical big, you know, fight on our hands between two physical talented teams. What nobody wanted to see was a bunch of flags. And when it was egregious, when there were some egregious holds on both sides, they called it.
Starting point is 00:31:43 They did a great job. There was no controversy. They made the right call on the Kyle on both sides, they called it. They did a great job. There was no controversy. They made the right call on the Kyle Juszczyk, caught it. He was going down. He was able to reach out the ball, just like the Dez Bryant thing. And instead it's been fixed. So I didn't mean to say fixed, corrected.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's been corrected, but there was no refereeing controversies. And that was great. I would not have enjoyed that tonight. I thought both teams were allowed to play football and it ended up in an all-time classic second half and super interesting in the go into the overtime with the new overtime rules, which I'm good with for the Super Bowl. Let's let both quarterbacks touch the ball.
Starting point is 00:32:22 It shouldn't just be somebody drives down. It's over. I am totally good with those rules. It's probably what they should have been the whole time. It's what everybody wishes they had back in 2009 with Brett Favre when they initially changed the rules. Mike says the 49ers may have won, but I hope this puts to bed the Purdy hate.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Talking heads just haven't believed in him. He wasn't the reason they lost. He had them leading twice at the end. Purdy had a good game. Yeah, bed the Purdy hate talking heads just haven't believed in him he wasn't the reason they lost he had them leading twice at the end Purdy had a good game yeah John says Purdy Purdy did great he did Purdy had a really good game he could not control what happened on that punt that went off the guy's leg and then the very next play it turns into a touchdown I mean gosh that's just one of those bad breaks that you have to get or good breaks on the other side. Good break. You have to get for the chiefs in order to win the super bowl because otherwise it won't happen. And there's gotta be a weird bounce. There's gotta be a, a one play here or there that goes your way. And both teams had those. I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:22 Pacheco fumbled McCaffrey fumbled Pacheco fumbled again Marcus Valdez Scantling caught the ball after a six-yard gain and ran backward eight yards like there were weird things that happened in this game that could have caused either team so I didn't think that one team was like more unlucky than the other one but clearly to me the game changed on that ball hitting the 49ers guy's foot. And he'll go down now in the lore of 49ers failed times where they get so close. And that's a team that has such an amazing history, but is stacking up these close calls like crazy in recent years and largely because of Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:34:02 But they were in the driver's seat at that point. And then they let a ball go off the driver's seat at that point. And then they let a ball go off a guy's foot, totally random, ray-raying clouds out there, like it almost bounces to him and then it bounces away from him. And that really caused it. But as an overall game, Brock Purdy did enough to win. He did enough to put his team ahead in overtime
Starting point is 00:34:20 and they needed one stop and could not get it against Patrick Mahomes. Marty says Patrick's pocket presence is incredible. He just knows how to feel the pressure without having to look at the pressure. It's something that throughout history of football has always been a massive difference maker. And there's different ways that guys have done it. Tom Brady was great at navigating the pocket, stepping a little this way, stepping a little that way, getting rid of the ball super quick,
Starting point is 00:34:50 knowing where his checkdowns are. But Patrick Mahomes does it in part with some of that stuff. And he beat a blitz or two in this game from Steve Wilks that was huge. But also, everybody seems like they're this close to getting him in the backfield. And he just finds a way to escape and that's something that if we compare again to the Vikings who feel like they are a triple-a team if you're a Twins fan who's their triple-a team now used to be the Rochester Red Wings it feels like the Vikings are in triple-a compared to the way these two football teams played and what they have and part of it is in the mobility of the quarterback
Starting point is 00:35:26 and the ability to make your play caller right when you're wrong. Like there were times in this game where Andy Reid called plays and they did not have anybody open. And Patrick Mahomes had to scramble, had to make a play. One time he's going to his right, has to throw back across his left. If you don't have that type of talent, I don't know how you're going to his right has to throw back across his left if you don't have that type of talent i i don't know how you're gonna be here i really don't um horse feathers has really wanted to see jennings get mvp hey how about that uh let's hope let's all hope that that trick play
Starting point is 00:36:00 which was the exact same trick play by by the way, that the Vikings ran. And I'd be really curious to know if they'd won the Super Bowl, maybe we would have heard this. The Vikings ran that trick play with Jordan Addison throwing it to Ty Chandler. And it was called back because somebody was too far down the field, I think. Remember, there was a holding. It was called back. It was the exact same play.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And I really wonder if the 49ers stole that play from the Vikings because it was to a tee with throw it to the left or reverse to the left and then have him look downfield like he's going to throw to the left side, turn back and throw to the running back. What a great game for Juwan Jennings, seriously. He also converted a big third down late in the game. Man, huge boy says Mahomes was trashed before the 49ers defense got tired. Like he also converted a big third down late in the game, man. Huge boy says my homes was trashed before the 49ers defense got tired.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah. Everybody was kind of trash early in this game. Really? Both sides seemed really anxious and worked up and they were struggling. The 49ers jumped off sides like three times or false started like three times. That was kind of bizarre. And it's super bowl so this happens sometimes but allowing mahomes to stay in it you could have a 17 point lead you could have a 21 point lead early in the game and you wouldn't feel safe but they didn't put mahomes in a position where he was having to come from way behind he was always right there throughout the game and if you that's
Starting point is 00:37:26 the thing like both teams are so good that they're not going to play perfect football against each other they're not just going to roll up and down but if you have your chance you got to put the nail in the coffin or you're going to lose the super bowl and that's what happened with san francisco but you're right i mean wearing out, and this is why Mahomes is so freaking unbeatable, because a lot of teams win one way. And San Francisco is like this. They win with running the ball and then playing off of that, right? That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Their receivers get open underneath with these crossing routes. They get them the football yards after catch. Like, that's how they do it. They run tunnel screens and little quick pitches and stuff. And they're the best team in the league when football yards after catch. Like that's how they do it. They run tunnel screens and little quick pitches and stuff. And they're the best team in the league when getting yards after catch. And Kansas City took that away in a lot of ways today. And then all of a sudden, what was their counterpunch? They don't have the greatest quarterback.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So for the Chiefs, what they've done is since they don't hit too many deep shots anymore, they hit the one early in the game and then fumbled but since they don't hit too many deep shots anymore then they find ways to wear a defense down so you're right i mean but you have to give kansas city credit for that is that it's quick pass quick pass my home scramble handoff quick pass and they were a little bit too much on the uh running side but i mean it is. How do you beat that team when they can shape shift anytime, when they can have Justin Watson come up with a big play, when they can have Blake Bell come up with a big play that Nicole Hartman, what like Nicole Hartman
Starting point is 00:38:58 wasn't even on this team at the beginning of the year, he was a New York jet. And then he ends up catching a long pass and then the game winning touchdown. And how brilliant with Andy Reed on that play call at the end with that little fake motion, messed with the 49ers, get somebody open, win the game. It is a hard team to beat. And that's why nobody has yet. Ian says, why not defer if you are the Niners in overtime? Yeah, it's a good question.
Starting point is 00:39:29 My guess is that it was because the 49ers defense had been on the field for so long that they had to just get a rest. They were exhausted because they had just gone down the field, down the field, down the field, down the field, down the field. And they had been on the field for a really long time. If they send them back out there against Mahomes, and maybe they thought the odds were different of them getting scored on. At the end of the day, you got to score that touchdown if you're San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:39:58 The opportunity was there. They just weren't able to do it. And they weren't able to close it out, man. I mean, geez. Ben says Purdy made an incredible play on the rollout to the right where he faked the guy out, chasing him down, then hit a guy for a first down. That's the thing with Brock Purdy in this game is that if the takeaway is that Brock Purdy's not good enough, I don't know. I don't know. I think maybe the takeaway was they got away from their run game
Starting point is 00:40:26 early in the second half. Purdy was dealing with one of the best defenses in the league who did a great job against his receivers. He made a bunch of plays throughout the game that were very good, but it just wasn't enough. It just was not enough.
Starting point is 00:40:41 You know, I really think that he played well enough to win the Super Bowl, but he just didn't happen. I mean, this is the this is the story of all the Mahomes and all the Brady Super Bowls is the Atlanta Falcons put up 28 points and just it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough because they failed on a drive where they had a chance to put them away. They didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And Brady ends up coming back. And there's, there's such a frustration. I remember this as a kid when I was growing up watching Michael Jordan, my favorite team was the New York Knicks. Imagine how I felt just like this, just like 49ers fans, just like everybody else. Just like Eagles fans last year, that was the Eagles big chance. That was their best team. And the 49ers, they're going to run back back a good team but do you get better than this this top to bottom team i don't know scott says what's frustrating is the vikings not having a franchise quarterback since fran tarkington culpepper could have been that but blew up his knee and never recovered cousins is only paid like a franchise quarterback. And that's why you have to try to find
Starting point is 00:41:46 one. And that's the only thing you can do is you just have to try to find one because everything else to the owners of the team may not feel pointless, but I think to the fans at this point kind of does like anything other than trying to
Starting point is 00:42:02 chase it to really chase being in this game and getting your shot at Mahomes. Anything short of that is just wasting everybody's time. Like, could you have been in this game? No, absolutely not. And why is that? Well, in part because you have just an okay quarterback who would not be able to go all the way through the playoffs without having a bad game or without, you know, coming apart at some point. And you have just an okay team and okay quarterback, okay team. And one of the things that was real frustrating throughout the year was when people
Starting point is 00:42:33 talked about, well, you know, they didn't fumble this ball or they didn't have this thing go wrong. Well, look at this game. It's a great example. Games will be that way. If you're playing close all the time, you can, you might win, you might lose, right? But the good teams win a lot throughout the season by a lot of points and don't put themselves in that position. And then we expect the playoffs to be played that way. But if you're playing that way in the regular season, it's always you win some, you lose some.
Starting point is 00:43:01 That's just how it is. You live and die on those one score games. They lived on 2022. They died this year on one score games, but that's not, that's not playing for a championship. That's just playing to have some entertainment on Sundays. They've been entertaining. Even when McMullen's played, it was entertaining. Was that playing for a championship though?
Starting point is 00:43:20 Absolutely not. Uh, Willie says Brock had no time to throw. Shanahan had no answer to the Chiefs defense. Their window is closing. I don't know how much their window is closing because Bosa is still young. Hargrave is in his prime. They've got a lot of really good players. Fred Warner's not going anywhere. I feel terrible for Greenlaw. Taron is Achilles in this game, in the Super Bowl, when he was just running out there.
Starting point is 00:43:47 But that's going to be an injury probably that takes him through the midway of next season. They're going to have their weapons going forward. Most of them are young. They can improve their offensive line. But what the Philadelphia Eagles show you and the Falcons in 2017, like, is it's so hard to get back. And that is what is incredible and why I have so much respect for Kansas City,
Starting point is 00:44:09 as nauseating as they have become. And Patrick Mahomes, is it's so hard to get back. And they got back. And they did it again. It's impossible. Almost nobody ever does this, goes back to back. And they did it. But for San Francisco, like you're saying, yeah, you get that close.
Starting point is 00:44:26 It is extremely difficult, no matter how good you think you are, to keep getting back because everybody else is coming for your crown. Renee says Mahomes has a sneaky, quick twitch. It's like a blanket. He's 10 yards deep. It's wild. It's funny how even when it comes to the 40 and all that draft stuff and everything else, when it comes to the 40-yard dash, does that really tell us who can actually make a play?
Starting point is 00:44:55 I don't think it does. Tim says, I wonder if the Wilfs are capable of getting out of their own way for long enough to get a championship. We may have to wait for new owners. Well, I think that I think we're going to find out because I have been really, really hesitant to criticize the owners of this team because I think that they executed a lot of the plan last offseason in moving on from Delvin Cook, Adam Thiel and Eric Hendricks. I think I think that they were patient in doing that and probably understood that this year wasn't going to be a year to chase a championship. And I felt that weirdly,
Starting point is 00:45:32 as bad as the season was in the second half, they were getting closer every day to being a real contender because they were getting closer to move on from the quarterback, start really building, have a pretty high draft pick, and go forward that way. I thought it was progress for them to not screw up the salary cap again just to bring back Adam Thielen, for example. That was progress for them. Now, can they get from point A to point B? From the time that you hired Kweisi and KOC to point B, which is a quarterback on a rookie contract, trading for talent, stacking talent. Hey, if the guy's good chips to the middle of the table, then you're doing everything you can to win. And we know that they can get people here. It's really just been money
Starting point is 00:46:15 that they couldn't get people here with cap space and so forth. We know that they can if they're good, because we've seen that before, like Sheldon Richardson wanted to show up here and play. They can if they have the cap space and the flexibility to do it. And so now will they complete the plan and actually take a big swing at it? That I do not know. CJ says Daniels and JJ and Hawk equals Vikings, Mahomes, Tyreek, and Kelsey. At least you're trying to be that. I mean, no one is ever going to be Mahomes, but at least you're trying to create something like that where you have a dynamic quarterback
Starting point is 00:46:55 who can make plays in the biggest moments, who can escape, who can scramble, who can just be moving one way or the other and flick the ball and make a play. I mean, is that the quarterback they have now? Definitely not. Could it be? Maybe, maybe the rumors are that they want to trade up. And a lot of you watch that video about that, by the way. So you can go back and watch that one from last night. A Taylor, I think it's how you pronounce your name. Vikings have a
Starting point is 00:47:22 long way to go. That starts with drafting a quarterback, must get one in the top three draft this year, build O-line and D-line. And that's the thing. So there were more reports today about, you know, maybe the Giants want to move up. Maybe the Raiders want to move up. There's all sorts of moving parts here that are, you know, the rumors and so forth that we get just before going to the combine. We'll get a lot more of that when we actually get there. And there's one that I want to talk about. We've talked about the Super Bowl a lot. I'm really enjoying the Super Bowl discussion, but I do want to get to one of these rumors that was out there today from Tom Pelissero. So I guess now is as good of a time as any because I haven't had dinner yet. I was so engulfed in the game that I just
Starting point is 00:48:06 didn't even eat. So that's football, right? Got to eat. But this rumor with Sam Darnold and the Vikings from Tom Pelissero, he was talking about how the Vikings, he said, still want Kirk Cousins back, but it's just getting very clear that they have a price. And if he takes it, then he's in. And if he doesn't, then he's out. So I guess it's up to you, Kirk. And Kirk's going to weigh the interest. He's going to weigh what everybody else is going to offer him. How many offers there's going to be, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Is Atlanta going to offer? Is Pittsburgh? There's a report that Pittsburgh wants to run back Kenny Pick pickett which i just do not understand um really at all there's the raiders there's the broncos have been kind of thrown out there because the previous connection with george payton if they move on from russell wilson so a lot of moving parts but if they move on from Sam Darnold's name was brought up. And I got to say that I like it. I don't love it necessarily, but I like it because of what Tom Pelissero said after that, which was, and they would take a quarterback to develop or to potentially start. And that makes a lot of sense to me. I mean, I think that Sam Darnold is still very talented.
Starting point is 00:49:28 And we saw somebody like Geno Smith get in the right situation. We could certainly say that Sam Darnold never had the right situation until now. And with San Francisco, and he played only a little, played pretty well. But he's got arm talent. He definitely has a big time arm talent that might actually work with the Vikings wide receivers. If you compare what Sam Darnold had in New York and then had in Carolina, just horrible, just horrible talent, bad coaching, everything, not a good situation. So if he were to come here, work with Kevin O'Connell, apply the arm talent, have the receivers, have the offensive system that pushes the ball down the field, which he's
Starting point is 00:50:11 good at, then, hey, maybe you find something special. But you, of course, pair that with a draft pick. And you can sell me on. So then you can do a competitive rebuild draft pick. And maybe you don't have to trade up to number three, or maybe you trade up to number three and you develop Jaden Daniels for a year and see what you have. And then if Sam Darnold is amazing, you trade them away and then play Jaden Daniels. I don't know. Like there's a lot, it opens the door to a lot of possibilities for
Starting point is 00:50:40 Darnold. And I did kind of think of Darnold and I think I brought it up maybe with Jeremiah Searles a couple of weeks ago, and he wasn't really into that idea. But I think as a bridge quarterback or a just-in-case or a let's-roll-the-dice quarterback, I don't mind it at all. Not at all. I think that's a guy they should identify, especially since he was working there in San Francisco with presumably a good amount of the same concepts that they would bring in, but it has to be paired with a draft pick. You can't be telling me, well, you know, in the fourth round, they'll take Spencer Rattler and see what happened. No,
Starting point is 00:51:14 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:51:15 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Starting point is 00:51:17 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Starting point is 00:51:18 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Starting point is 00:51:22 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, But after watching this game, if the Vikings bring back cousins, I'm out until they get a serious get serious about competing for a Super Bowl. I mean, I don't blame you.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I don't blame you. I can't shut down the show until then. So I would follow along with the ride. But it would be very difficult. me that you could ever get to this level with him as your quarterback, especially considering his age, his peak, his, his best parts of his career are now four years ago, five years ago. Is he getting better? I thought he was playing well, some weeks playing really well before he tore his Achilles, but who gets better at 36, 37, 38, except for like Rich Gannon? Anybody? I mean, that's not usually what ends up happening. That's not something that you would bet on. So I do wonder
Starting point is 00:52:11 about the Vikings and there's a wide range of possibilities here. So there's the trade up. There's the Sam Darnold and Bo Nix option. If they wanted to do something like that, there's going to be a ton of competition for trading up and daniel jeremiah was fueling that fire and then there's the question of what if nobody offers kirk now palacero said there's expected to be a market for him but what if there's not like what if the falcons get russell wilson and baker mayfield stays with the bucks and the denver is deciding that they're going to draft bo nix or something and and then Kirk comes back and says, you know what, I'll take that $30 million for two years.
Starting point is 00:52:49 I mean, I don't know how you say yes at that point, but if that's how they're going to do it, then that leaves the door open. Is it public posturing, or is it real, with the idea that they have a price on Cousins, and if he decides to take it they'll bring him back that's what i wonder about or is it just hey nobody wants anybody to think that they want to move on but again if you're the owners of the wilfs if you're the gm if you're
Starting point is 00:53:15 the head coach how are you watching this and being like no it's fine we'll be right there we'll be right there with these guys uh you couldn't right right? Mateo says, Matthew, after this game, can we talk about how clear it is that you need a quarterback who can move? Kirk is a no, and Penix is a statue as well. Yeah, I mean, that's, look, you're preaching to the choir with that. I've always been intrigued by Penix because of the arm talent, and I've always felt like you need an answer when that stuff happens, when you get blitz and you get rushed that you need to have either get rid of the ball quick. Like I was talking about with Brady or be able to throw deep down the field
Starting point is 00:53:52 with accuracy. And look, Jared golf was almost in this game, not a mobile quarterback, but to your point, I overall, I agree with you. I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:01 this is like a lifelong held belief that in the backyard as a kid, nobody's going, watch me be a statue. They're saying, look at me be Brett Favre, right? They're saying, look at me be Steve Young or Steve McNair or Michael Vick or so many other quarterbacks that have mobility and playmaking. And that was really because the 49ers receivers were not open all the time in this game. It was actually Brock Purdy's legs a couple of times making plays that were there to put them in position to maybe win this game. So yes, I mean, overall, generally, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Yeah. I think Michael Penix probably is more of a backup type of quarterback in the long run. Bo Nix is mobile. JJ McCarthy is mobile. The other guys are special when it comes to this. Make sure you get one of them. That's the bottom line. Scott says we are as much of a rebuild territory as we are a retool territory. If the organization can't recognize that, we stay in the middle.
Starting point is 00:55:02 You don't have to necessarily if you find the quarterback. And that's really what it comes down to is you don't have to stay in purgatory because you can very quickly improve your roster in other places. So I think of it this way. There's not many quarterbacks who are really good, but there are quite a few defensive ends who are good. There's quite a few corners who are good. There's always people popping up to trade for or to spend money on. So when you go to free agency, for example,
Starting point is 00:55:35 if you go to over the cap.com and look at free agency, you'll find five guys at every position who you're like, yeah, that could make us really awesome. The problem is you're never the team that is in a position to make the offer that gets that guy to come here or in the position to make the trade and sign that is able to acquire that player. And Gary says, what about paying Jefferson all that money? Well, I won't go over this in super big detail, but I even created a mock Jefferson contract that didn't take up 10% of the salary cap for like three years. So you can absolutely build around that contract. The difference is, and this is like a Nick Bosa thing. The difference is Justin Jefferson is the number one player at
Starting point is 00:56:24 his position. You can pay the number one player at his position, especially when it's not that expensive of a position. It is expensive, but it's still 15 million less than a quarterback. And that's just on an average per year basis. If you sign him to a five-year extension, you could spread that out with restructures. With Kirk, there's only so much you can do with three-year contracts or short extensions. His three-year $84 million guaranteed first contract, it's all guaranteed. You can't work around that. You can't mess with the cap. If you were to sign Jefferson to $130 million with 75 guaranteed, well, then you can work around around that but it's just not the same that would be an ultimate apples to oranges type of comparison they're just not the same you can easily pay the
Starting point is 00:57:12 number one player disposition you can't pay the number 12 player like the number one player that's what i would say uh josh says mahomes is a combination of alex smith and mcnab reed finally found the combo he needed to start his dynasty is crazy right that he has all the leadership capabilities of alex smith all the short passing all the like you know he can understand the defense and he's gotten smarter and smarter over the years and then he's got the scrambling and then he's got the playmaking and it's a sick combination. And, and look, you should never stop looking for that guy. That's how I would look at it. You should never stop looking for that guy. If you have a good quarterback, never stop looking
Starting point is 00:57:56 for a great one, no matter what happens. And, uh, I agree with skull Vikings, catch a punt, make an extra point. That's the thing, man. But you know, the chiefs fumbled, the chiefs had some penalties. They had a guy run backwards for no reason whatsoever. I mean, things happened on both sides and ultimately one team needed a touchdown and the other team got a field goal. And that was it. The greatest quarterback got a touchdown because that's what he does. Uh, Alexander says, how do you construct a team to beat my homes? The Niners have the best roster in the NFL and failed. How do you beat the Chiefs? Oh, if I knew, buddy, they'd pay me a lot more money.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I mean, since so many of you are watching, YouTube's giving me a good amount now. That's great, but not enough. They don't think I'm that smart that I know how to beat the Chiefs. Nobody knows how to beat the Chiefs. That's the point. When the other team has the greatest quarterback, there's not a whole lot you can do. So there is no, there's no construct.
Starting point is 00:58:49 They did it exactly right. San Francisco built their team to beat the Chiefs. They did. They built their team with a amazing defensive line that bothered Mahomes and give them credit. They were really smart in the way they rushed the passer. They rushed the passer. They rushed the passer in a wide kind of way. And you saw Nick Bosa, even at times just sort of standing there going like, I'm not letting you scramble. I'm not letting you scramble. So they have the
Starting point is 00:59:16 best defensive end in the league. They have a great defensive line. They've just poured on defensive talent and then on the offensive side playmakers on playmakers on playmakers i mean that's that is just like it's impossible because kansas city does a lot of things right too that's the other thing kansas city they built their team well too they coach their well too, except for theirs guy is a little bit better at the end of the day. Aaron says, Mahomes has a $57 million cap hit next year, 37 this year, probably going to adjust that. Yeah, I'm sure they will. That was another thing that Mahomes did. He did a Brady thing where he set his contract up. So it's really moldable and they will mold it into the future. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Dan says, what is this beating the blitz thing you speak of? We don't do that in Minnesota. Sometimes Cousins has been good over the years because he's very smart. And this is the thing about, you know, Kirk Cousins in general is that he's got a lot of skills that make him a really, really good NFL quarterback. And that's what makes him so hard to walk away from, is that you always think that you're going to be right there, right there. And you are in a lot of ways. You're in a lot of games. You're very close. You get down in a game. He throws for 350 yards. You lose by one score. We were right there.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And how many times do we hear, if only this guy caught the ball, if only they hadn't called the penalty, if only, if only, if only, if only, I mean, there's just so many, there's so many of those with Kirk over the years that it's pretty clear that that's just how the game works and the best elevate past that. And gosh, San Francisco and Kansas City, they were the best and they played one heck of a game, one heck of a game throughout this night and the second half, especially. It was very exciting.
Starting point is 01:01:20 It ends up being a really good Super Bowl overall. And I'm happy to see how it went it was very tense at the end man if you weren't gripping the edge of the couch at the end then wow you know so it's uh yeah what a night what a season huh what a season and i appreciate all of the participation here tonight in the chat all of you watching an incredible and incredible season overall. And yeah, I don't know what else to say. Patrick Mahomes, he's put himself in a place that is hard to beat. And the only thing that you have going for you is he's not in the NFC. He is in the AFC. So the door is still open. And you know what? If this had been the Vikings tonight,
Starting point is 01:02:05 oh, well, like at least you're there, right? At least you're there. If it's them in the NFC championship and they lose it, at least you're there. That's what you should be going for. And you know, is Mahomes inevitable? Maybe, but some year he won't be there. Oh, well, like you're going to have to take a shot at it to be where these teams were tonight. And you're going to have to learn from what these teams did. One of them took a shot at a super athletic freak show quarterback and it worked. The other team got a cheap quarterback who was good enough and built an amazing team around him and was this close to beating the greatest quarterback. That's the way.
Starting point is 01:02:50 That's the only way the way is not bringing back a 36 year old veteran who is limited and who is not going to be able to escape. If there's a rush and make a play and pop that ball out to Christian McCaffrey, the way that Brock Purdy did or scramble around and escape and create a first down the way that Purdy did. He doesn't even have that tool in the bag. So he has to rely on entirely being pocket passer, pocket passer. How many three and outs,
Starting point is 01:03:12 how many strip sacks through the years have we seen cost them games or keep them in close games when they shouldn't be. It's just not enough and it's too expensive. And so everything always kind of funnels back to that but a great a great night a super exciting super bowl and i had a feeling that this would be the case where the build-up was terrible there was nothing interesting at all about the build-up it was hey are we mad about taylor swift does anyone want to debate me on brock purdy no no no one cares about any of that. And yet when we got
Starting point is 01:03:46 actually to the field and we got actually to the game, it was a great game. It was a great battle between two really good teams. And unfortunately one team had to lose, but off to a new season. And that's what I'm excited about folks. This show is not slowing down. It's not stopping because every day there's going to be something new and there's going to be a new guest to bring on. There's going to be new perspectives to bring. There's going to be new news that comes out. There's going to be new rumors.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And this is where it will be. Everybody else takes vacation. Guess what this guy does not do? Why would I take a vacation from football? That's not what we do. We continue to talk football. So I've got guests already lined up for next week. It's going to be super exciting to dive in.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Now we are in off-season mode officially. And when a rumor pops up, we're going to be talking about it. So I appreciate all of you jumping in here. Huge crowd tonight after the Super Bowl to talk about it from a Vikings perspective. Hopefully, if you're new to the show, you stick around. You keep watching. You keep listening. Check out purpleinsider.com. That's where the newsletter is. Articles come out every day as well. So thank you so much to everybody for watching. I'm really glad we could break it all down. And guess what? We'll be back tomorrow. So we'll have more breakdown on the Super Bowl, more talk about what comes next for the Minnesota Vikings. Thanks so much, everybody, for watching slash listening.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And we will catch you next time. Football.

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