Purple Insider - a Minnesota Vikings and NFL podcast - The most interesting Vikings players at training camp (10-6) (Part 2)

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Matthew Coller talks about his countdown of the top 25 most interesting Vikings in training camp, revealing numbers 10 through 6

Adam, who are you most excited to watch when Netflix releases quarterback tomorrow? So that is who is on that? It's a, is it bro Kirk and someone else? So I guess the answer is I haven't paid a lot of attention to it. The first time Kirk was on was really interesting and we talked a lot about it because it was very revealing behind the scenes about Kirk. And I mean, I'm as interested as the next guy to see how much they include and what is in there about Kirk, the drafts being benched, like how that's all presented.

I'm very interested to see just out of my own curiosity, not that it really impacts the Vikings. You know, I like that kind of stuff. I'm glad it stayed alive. The NFL films is just not what it used to be back in the day, but it's that sort of content has stayed alive. And I always think of somebody watching it who is just getting into football and how cool that must be to see the behind the scenes stuff on the quarterbacks. I don't know if I'll really dive deep into it or if I'll spend a bunch of time. I guess if you guys tell me it'll be just like the far of documentary, like a few of you said, Hey, you should watch the far of documentary. But most of most of you said it's not really anything you don't know.

Same thing here. If you guys tell me, Hey, you got to watch this quarterback thing. It's amazing then. Okay, I'll probably watch it but if it's More of the same for the follow-ups I think the first time they did it it was really revealing but you know, they did the wide receiver Not so much even about Justin Jefferson and all that sort of thing. So I'll leave it up to you guys so I'll leave it up to you guys I'll leave it up to you guys to tell me hey you got to watch it or don't bother Angel dust

senior that is one heck of a name Jordan Addison's over under 800 receiving yards this season your thoughts it is a good over under because we still are sitting here waiting on a suspension or a ruling or anything white smoke out of a Los Angeles courtroom that tells us convicted or not. I would say over on that. I think that that's who he's going to be in this league is a guy who gets between 900 and 1000 yards every single year. Jefferson's going to take a lot of the attention, but Addison is still going to be there.

He's been consistent even when he's been banged up or even when he had to miss a couple of games, he's still in that range. I do think they're going to throw the ball a ton. It's a good over under, though, because I think it's going to be right in that ballpark. I'm not. Yeah, but I'm not 100 percent sure. I mean, it really depends. If he's missing three games, that makes it a lot harder. But even if he misses three games, I think he clears 800. Win Hawk 77. Do you think Jordan Mason will have more rushing yards than Aaron

Jones? I do not. I think that Aaron Jones will have more rushing yards and that's health dependent. But that's why I don't like to talk about injuries in July because everything is health dependent for every single season ever. Uh, if they're both a hundred percent healthy for 17 games, Aaron Jones is more of the guy because he could do a lot more. He is a great wide receiver out of the backfield. He's a pass protector. I think Jordan Mason is a bruiser. That's what he does. And Jones is kind of the brains of the operation. He's the old vet. He does everything where with Jordan Mason, it's going to be like, all right, you run that way. Here's a football run over some dudes. And that dynamic element is going to keep Jones on the field a little bit more. My projection for this has been Jones is somewhere in the range of 900 and Jordan Mason somewhere in the range of 700 but Mason gets more touchdowns about that just to be specific Dusty says if you put Darasaw on the Cowboys he'd be getting

all pro talk yeah I mean look if you put anyone halfway decent on the Cowboys they'll be talked about and debated endlessly. Same thing happened to Harrison Smith when he was getting snubbed every year for the Legion of Boom Safeties. Well, that's, yeah, that's a little bit of a different discussion. When you win, you get that conversation all the time. You're playing on national TV, you're getting a ton of attention, that sort of stuff. That's kind of how it goes. Um, and I don't, I don't blame the world for talking about Earl Thomas and

talking about cam chancellor. Like those guys were great, but as far as Harrison Smith, just the lack of big moments in the playoffs has probably kept him a little more out of that national conversation for the best safety in the NFL throughout his career. And that's's why when people ask me about his Hall of Fame chances, my answer is always I would vote for him. Absolutely. I think he's deserving, but do I think the outside world knows enough about Harrison Smith? Probably not. Probably not unless they go to the Super Bowl. Um, Aaron, have I talked with Courtney about the bears outlook for the year? I have not, but she will definitely be on the show before week one.

I'm saving that, uh, saving that for a big week one preview appearance. Oh, actually I have, I was on her podcast the other day. What am I thinking? Uh, I was on her podcast the other day talking about, I mean, I was talking about the Vikings obviously, but you could check that out. I forget that it's bear something. You can find it. But yeah, we're kind of talking about how with Caleb Williams, it's just so hard to figure.

It's so hard to put a finger on because I'm starting to think that the truth is in the middle with Caleb Williams, kind of like all controversial players. You know, I followed the WNBA. The truth is in the middle with Angel Reese. Like some people say she's like the worst player in the league Some people say she's the best neither one of those are true Cam Newton used to be this way Dak Prescott is kind of this way like Cam Newton It used to be some people thought that Cam Newton wasn't a great quarterback because of like quarterback rating like, okay Well, I guess if you throw out 13 touchdowns that he ran for or whatever,

that, okay, did you want him to throw screen passes instead to get those touchdowns instead of running them in? Caleb Williams, the off season discussion is somewhere in the middle. I think we should all agree that Caleb Williams story is not written in the national football league after one bad season. But if you try to just write off all of that as all Eberfluss, all the the Bears in their culture, he can't do that. I mean he should know how to watch film. He should be seeking out people to watch film and also he shouldn't be making those excuses about nobody teaching him or his dad shouldn't be making excuses for him and things like that.

I mean, there's just, there's a lot of those like excuses that sort of plagued him a little bit when he was in college. I thought the general disposition, does he really have that dog in him? I don't know. Or is it always going to be kind of the slump shoulders going over to the bench and the high flashes that are exciting? But those high flashes, you also can't ignore those either. There were moments and there were games where he was really, really good. So that's, that's kind of how I look at that. But Courtney will definitely be back onto the show before week one. Absolutely. Bob says the chances we sign Wentz before the season. I want to go. I would watch the heck out of Long Snapper. Hey, I agree with you guys. Maybe that

should be my thing. Maybe I should take a break with Purple Insider and produce the next great Long Snapper documentary. You want me to? Maybe this year is the best year to do it. Nothing going on, right? The Vikings No, I'm kidding. But as far as Carson Wentz, I don't know maybe like 25 percent 20 percent maybe 20. It's called the Chicago Bears podcast. Is it really I I don't even know I can't even remember and I went on it but Yeah, no, Aaron You're right that Jeremiah Searles loved playing with Cam Newton and I went on it. But, um, yeah, no, Aaron, you're right that Jeremiah Searles loved playing with cam Newton. And I think dispelled, he was on the show a couple of years ago and

dispelled a lot of the nonsense about cam Newton. He was a great leader of that team. He was a great quarterback, wasn't the best quarterback in the league and is in a hall of Famer. But as we know, you either, this is just the, this is a frustration I have for all sports all the time Is that what? espn and a lot of the like talking head type of culture things have done is either you are Horse-crap or you are the goat and anything in between with any nuance or context you might as well just forget about it It's either it's this guy on the right is going to scream that So-and-so is the goat and this guy is going to scream on the left that he's terrible

And that's discussion and that's why you guys listen to this show because we don't do that And we look into the the evidence. Oh Jared Goff is the other quarterback. Okay on the quarterback documentary we look into the evidence of what everything says but Don't sign when small. Whence is a backup quarterback. I mean, would probably be fine. I never really got to the answer to the question. Maybe it's like 20, 25% because if Sam Howell struggles, they're going to look for other

options and that could be whence that could be Tannahill. That could also be somebody that they trade for. But I think maybe 70% chance that Sam Howell is just the backup quarterback. Folks, as you know, over the last five years, I've built up Purple Insider into my own small business, but I realize as a business owner that I still have a lot to learn. That's where IDOU comes in. I'm learning to jumpstart my company's growth through IDOU courses and how to be more innovative and use their award-winning methods

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it's bringing Maggie at, at, uh, Syracuse, the Syracuse university this evening. Uh, Maggie Robinson, intern Maggie, what is going on? How are you? I am good. We were talking earlier, the shift from being a fully functioning member of society and with a job and a salary and responsibilities to being a student is a hard pivot. So I feel like I'm recalibrating my brain to like take in a lot of new information and learn how to study again, learn how to do work on a different kind of timeline. Like now I go

home and I'm like, oh, this is when I have to do all my work versus I would do all my work from nine to five. So I'm just reteaching myself how to be a student right now. Right. For those who don't know, you were a producer with the NFL and you were going back to grad school to be in front of the camera as you are right now. So where would you like to begin the festivities this evening? Well, I have a few thoughts based on my listening to the past hour. And the first one is my biggest pet peeve, which as a person going into the broadcasting space, I got to keep his top of mind, mispronouncing names. We even talked about this, talked about school in one of my classes today.

Pronouncing names is like the most respectful thing you can do as a broadcaster. We're paid to speak and to run our mouth. The least you can do is to get a guy's name right. And this reminded me, so I was on the broadcasting team doing production for the NFL at the draft every year. It was me and a girl named Lucy Popko, who was my manager. If you watched the NFL Explained documentary, she's on it. She was on NFL Network this past year at the draft. Anyways, we would create mostly her, but a pronunciation guy. So we'd go up to all the guys at the combine, record all their names from their voice, be like, okay, can you say it? And you'd be like, Matthew Caller, tight end, Georgia. And then we would create a little

document for RG to play. And so when he's sitting on his private jet, shuttling back and forth, about to go to draft, he's sitting there playing all the different audio recordings. He's like, how do I say this name? Here's all the really hard ones that we've put in the list for him. I don't know. I think the behind the scenes is so interesting. I don't think people realize that we actually spend a lot of time coaching him up back there in the green room.

We have pronunciation on the cards that people don't see that's phonetically spelled out of even Caleb. He comes out, he's like, how you say Caleb Williams? It's like phonetically spelled out of even Caleb. He comes out, he's like, how you say Caleb Williams? Like it's, it's Caleb. Let's not ever think it. You got it. All you dude. Like, here we go.

But I just thought that was so interesting. I mean, these guys at the draft, you know, they worked their whole life for this moment. They don't want to be called something else when they get up there. Like they want their name to be pronounced correctly for their family. And it's something that they're going to save on their phone and replay a million times and all that sort of stuff throughout the rest of their life. So you want to make sure that you're getting that right. And I think just in general, if you're on a broadcast, there's no excuse for that because the Vikings have PR people, the players

are there in the locker room. Like you can ask any of those. But I think where I hear it the most is the national talking head person, which seems to not really care. And that's where, that's where I think needs to be better. I mean, if you're going to say Jonathan, Grinard had double digit sacks two years in a row and was in the top five and quarterback pressures calling him Jonathan Greenard. He even said in his opening press conference, you can call me John, you can call me Jonathan, you can call me JG, just don't call me Greenard. So it was like the one thing that the guy says,

and I think what it comes down to with the Vikings is yes, it is just lazy broadcasting. I also think that it's relevancy that when a team, like a Kansas City Chiefs player is not getting their name pronounced wrong because they're going to be on that national broadcast every single week. They're going to get a ton of attention a ton of conversation and nobody is going to say any of their guys wrong. Whereas the Vikings they weren't on national TV a lot last year

even as they were winning a lot, but I think people thought they weren't going to be that good. They're over under was six and a half and then even as they were winning a lot, but I think people thought they weren't going to be that good. They're over under with six and a half. And then even as they went along, it was like, okay, uh, is Sam Darnold for real? 30 seconds later, yes, no. Okay. Back to the Cowboys, right? Back to the chiefs, back to whatever discussion.

And I think this year is the year where that changes because of JJ McCarthy, because of the national attention on the Minnesota Vikings, we're going to start seeing a lot more people get it right and not call him Christian Derrashaw. We're gonna see him, call him Derrassaw and get it right. I mean, some of these aren't even that hard to be completely honest with you. I think people just need to step it up.

It is really like the bare minimum of this profession is to read a word correctly. Come on, you have 18 people writing your scripts, producing, editing, behind the scenes. The words coming out of your mouth can at least be spoken before you go on air once or twice. Well, there are some questionable former athletes and broadcasters that end up on TV.

I will not name who I think that is, but there are some. So- I will say, not to just keep harping on this school thing, but it is interesting now that I'm here learning all of this stuff. I think a lot of people assume this job is much easier than it is. And I say that because a lot of people just think,

oh, you're just yapping, you're just running your mouth. I can do that, that's awesome. There's actually a lot of journalistic skill required to do this job that I think in the digital age maybe has been turned down or disregarded and Instagram and TikTok and Twitter are making everyone think that they're like a citizen journalist, but I don't know. Well, this is a little bit of a gripe of mine with them hiring former players. Now I have a former player on this show, Jeremiah Searles, who is one of the smartest and most locked in

former players you will ever find in your entire life. He is an agent as well as a podcast host and former player. So he knows everything that's going on in the league and he's so phenomenal at breaking down the Vikings and everything else. But because he's Jeremiah Searles, five year NFLer who was mostly a swing tackle, he doesn't get on ESPN. They want big name type of guys, even if you're, I guess Dan Arlovski might be the exception to that, but a quarterback who's he's really good at it. Um, but a lot of times it's some big name type of people who I think are not as good of broadcasters, but move the needle more where, Oh, this guy said this. So now it becomes a viral clip that gets put out on all social media and stuff like that. And even like a Santa Samuel, uh, has got himself in the viral rotation lately for just saying really dumb stuff on whatever

podcast he's doing. He said Chris Carter was overrated. Like, okay, yeah, sure. Everyone is. Everyone's if Chris Carter is overrated, then everyone's overrated. Like Chris Carter is easily one of the great receivers in history, but congrats on your dumb, stupid, pointless opinion, former player guy. And congrats for everybody who shared it.

I lost brain cells now having had to listen to that, but that's what's getting a lot more attention than a Jeremiah Searles great breakdown of the Vikings offensive line, because that's what gets people worked up and gets people yelling at stupid stuff. So I don't know. I feel like the networks have followed that in a lot of ways. Like, hey, if if we have like famous people come on TV and say dumb stuff, it'll go viral. So we should do that.

And you shouldn't. You truly shouldn't. The views and what they will do for the views and for more ad dollars. I don't know if we know the limit of it. I think they're just going to keep reaching and keep reaching one person who I do like, though, and I know we're kind of off topic here But Jason Kelsey, I do enjoy Jason Kelsey because I think his energy is so good And he is so authentic to himself that man isn't trying to be anyone else other than fully himself Offensive linemen are a different breed. They're just a different breed. Absolutely

My other question for you. I'm truly curious. What'd you get up to this Fourth of July? What'd you spend your time doing? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Not to air you out of the pod. No, the answer is truly nothing. I recorded a podcast. I wrote a couple of articles to get ahead a little bit. And I grilled and went to a WNBA game and like that was it. Not a, not a whole lot going on over here. Did you put back 70.5 hot dogs though, when you grilled? I did not. No, I think my maximum is like two probably as many hot dogs.

I might be able to do three if I'm really hungry, but I am not Joey chestnut nor can I stomach watching that. I mean, congrats to him. He's made a lot of money doing it, but that is just not my thing. I mean, he's an elite athlete, I guess 70 and a half hot dogs in 10 minutes is truly insane. Yeah, I just, I don't know. I don't know, but I just had to highlight him. Isn't he more of a circus act than an athlete? I think he's more of a circus.

I like do we think that people who, I don't know, blow flames out of their nose? Is that like an athletic type of thing? Because I think the same thing for eating hot dogs. I just thought my hot take is like and hear me out. I don't think chess is a sport. People will be like, it's a mental game. No, I don't think it's a sport. I think it's a game. I think those are the two polar opposites. You have the very refined like chess, people arguing it's a mental game. No, I don't think it's a sport. I think it's a game. I think those are on the two polar opposites.

You have the very refined like chess, people arguing it's a sport, and then you have hot dog eating. That's not a sport. But that's a contest. But one of them is on ESPN. Although, you can't put some stuff on there that you're like, why is the mullet competition

on ESPN three right now? Yeah, there's like a corn hole thing. Yeah, no, there's not. Everything on ESPN can't be a sport. Cannot. Okay, now that we've acknowledged that there's absolutely nothing really going on in the NFL, Elephant in the Room has been addressed. I did want to go over a few quick around the NFL moves.

Starting off with Vikings legend wide receiver, Randy Moss is coming back to Sunday NFL countdown after his pancreatic cancer Issue of last season where he took some time away. He showed up. I believe at Christmas and it was a Christmas or a Super Bowl He showed he made one appearance and it was a little it was a little rough for him energy was low But super exciting to have him back. I thought that was a very feel-good story to kick it off with exciting to have him back. I thought that was a very feel good story to kick it off with. No, definitely. And last year, one of the great moments of the entire season was Justin Jefferson in his touchdown celebration, shouting out Randy Moss as he was going through that. And you could just tell how much he means to Jefferson, to Kevin O'Connell, to the organization, still to the Minnesota Vikings. One of the coolest things

that I ever had a chance to be a part of was when the Vikings surprised Randy Moss, letting him know that he was going to be in the Ring of Honor. So they had sort of misled him a little bit, like, come up to the facility, we got some things for you or something. So he showed up and then they announced it to him that he was going in the ring of honor and he did an incredible press conference was thoughtful and insightful. And the thing about Randy Moss is that he was so, I think on edge during his career and it was a very different time in the NFL. It was a very different organization for the Minnesota Vikings at that time,

that there were a lot of regrettable moments for him, uh, over his career with the Vikings. And when he left the NFL, you wondered like, what's going to happen to this guy? Is he going to be all right or what? And his post career has been incredible because I think he's really told his story, his perspective, his point of view. It doesn't justify everything, uh, with him that happened with the Vikings running over

a parking attendant. But I think it really shows you how like super smart Randy Moss really is. And he's an introspective, thoughtful person who on TV has been a star. Like those things that we were just talking about, like, oh, these star players who go on and just say really dumb stuff. That is not Randy Moss. He is a great broadcaster and really fun to watch on ESPN. So I mean, I'm certainly glad that he's going to be coming back and that his health is going in the right direction.

But it's part of a bigger story for Randy Moss of somebody that you just didn't really know with his temperament. How is he going to turn out post-career? And he's had a great kind of Renaissance in his post career. I do want to wind it back because you said something that I didn't know. Did he run over a parking attendant? And do you mind elaborating because I don't remember call slash. I might not have been paying attention to the NFL at that point in my life. It kind of was what it was. Yeah. I mean, that's what it is. What it sounds like.

I don't know. I don't have the police report on me, but he was in his car and there was some sort of dispute with a parking attendant and he did not like run the person flat over, but nudged them enough to draw the attention of the police. And I think he got arrested for it. And it was just one of those stupid controversies and a dumb thing for him to do. But, uh, there was also, you know, sideline meltdowns and locker room things and stuff like that,

uh, that had him kind of always in the news over one thing or another. And play when I want to play was also his famous thing that he told, uh, Sid Hartman of the star Tribune. I play when I want to play, which he kind of clarified wasn't really exactly what he was trying to say, but you know, I mean, that is, it made him sound like he was kind of, you know, I do whatever I want because I'm Randy Moss and there was a different set of rules for Randy Moss than everyone else at one time. But he was also a crazy talented player who cared so much about the X's and O's of the game, the execution.

And I think it was Bill Belichick who said he was like one of the smartest players that he was ever around, that Randy would come to him and tell him, here's what I'm seeing. We need to do these different things. And Belichick would just do it because if Randy Moss was saying it, then he would do it. And so he's, he's a complicated guy. There's a great documentary called Rand University about him growing up. It's, I think it was the best thing for him because it helped you understand where he came from and why he was so standoffish as a part of

the Minnesota Vikings when he first got to the NFL. And I think since he's grown out of that, and he's got kids and, you know, one of them was at LSU, another one had just tried out for the Vikings briefly. I mean, he's grown up a lot so clearly and it's a great post-career story for him. But he did run over a parking attendant. That did happen. The other thing I realized, and this is really embarrassing and I'm actually really outing myself to the listeners, you guys, so I would like to apologize preemptively. I didn't know the term Moss came from Randy Moss. Oh my gosh. Where did you think it came from?

I don't know. I just thought I was like, I just was like, maybe it's people in Gen Z love to create words out of absolutely nothing and then just like throw them into sentences. So I was like, you know what? Maybe this is just like a verb that we've been using and like you've been mossed, you know? Okay, that's funny. So while the reason is because no player ever at NFL history was better at jumping over people and catching the ball than Randy Moss. So that's where it came from. Now, are you familiar with it? You've heard the term like, oh, I stan this person, meaning like you're a big fan.

Do you know where that comes from? I don't know where it comes from. Someone in the comments think bless your heart. That's such a southern thing to say. It's so funny. Like things from my era generation that have transferred over that I hear young people say

that they don't even know why they're saying it. What is that one? I don't know that at all. There is a very famous hip hop song by Eminem. Okay. You know him, yes? Familiar with that one, you got me. Okay, all right.

And the song is called Stan and it is about a completely psychotic fan boy. And the entire song is written from the perspective of the Eminem fan writing letters to Eminem and it starts out fairly innocent and then it gets crazier and crazier as it goes along. It's one of the best hip hop songs of all time. So if you are a crazy fan for somebody, you say,

I am a Stan for whoever. I'm learning so much today, you guys. What a time. And my brain just explodes with knowledge. This is awesome. I mean, there's, there is, when it comes to Viking stories, people in the comments should just nominate stories that you need to know. Oh, yeah. Can you guys make me like a top three list like right now of what are the stories Matthew needs to recount to me

because I need to get up on my Vikings floor. He already told me a few of them. I got sent the video of the roof literally collapsing at the old metrodome. That was wild because for some reason in my mind, I was like, oh, the roof collapsed. Maybe like a fraction of it came in. No, the whole the whole thing came down. It was just like a waterfall of snow. Where they end up playing.

They played at the Gopher Stadium, and that resulted in the end of Brett Favre's career because they played at the Gopher Stadium, which was completely frozen. And Brett Favre hit his head on the frozen ice field, which they should not have been playing on. And that was the way that that ended. Yes. Folks, I think I did at one point reference the boat thing. I have looked up the boat incident.

I don't know if that's FCC compliant to speak about on air. Absolutely not. I am aware of. Also, there's no way that I could go through that whole thing without just starting to to giggle like a child. Yeah, it's it's pretty funny. But I know you guys could do better than. Let's keep it PG.

Yeah, podcast light. But you let me know Bounty Gate. Is that something you know of, Matthew? Oh, you are not familiar with Bounty Gate. This is fun, actually. This is fun. This is a cool game. Let's go. So once upon a time, Brett Favre had the Minnesota Vikings in the NFC championship game. This was 2009 and they were en route to win in that game. They were the better team against the new Orleans Saints, but behind the scenes, the New Orleans Saints had a game where players were getting paid to cause the opposition injuries. And the player that they were going after and

trying to, you know, get more money for injuring was Brett Favre in that game. And if you watched it now, knowing all of the rules that have been put in place since to protect quarterbacks, you would think this was a different sport the way that they beat up Brett Favre in that game. And then it came out later that they had had this, this bounty thing. Like if you injure certain players, you get extra money from your teammates and that kind of thing. And Sean Payton, now this is where it gets really funny.

So Sean Payton was suspended for an entire year because of this. And then here's where it gets really nuts. They made a movie about it on Netflix and Kevin James plays Sean Payton. What the heck that also happened. I also was just so unaware that Sean Payton was was removed for a year. Yes. And I was living at I was also 10 years old. So just there's yeah, there's the Wisinator is another great one.

That was so Ontario Smith. And I could get back to Vikings fans hatred of Sean Payton momentarily, because in that game, Farve throws across his body, throws the interception. They lose. The Saints go on to win the Superbowl. And part of the reason was that far would have run for a first down on the key play, had they not injured the crap out of him for the entire game, right?

Had they, right, right, right. So there's all that. And I'll explain the Wizzinator in a second, but the reason for the reason they also hate Sean Peyton was in the Minneapolis miracle game, which you do know about. I do know about that one. I did my research in the Minneapolis miracle game. The saints had taken the lead with just seconds to go right before the miracle. And Sean Peyton started doing the skull chants like this to mock Vikings fans looking around with a big bleep

eatin grin on his face make yeah yeah school whatever and then he messed around and found out and so they've always hated him for that as well fair enough he's also he just seems like a very direct blunt person like you don't get much personality from Sean Baten. You could say that. Yeah. Maybe doesn't seem like the guy that you would necessarily want to spend the whole July 4th weekend with the whizinator. That was a running back by the name of Ontario Smith. Okay. The way, the way that I have heard this story before is now at the current moment, the NFL does not care at all about drugs.

They just, they don't, they stopped caring. They stopped worrying about if guys got a weed citation or, you know, tested positive for X, Y, and Z. But for a long time, this was a really big deal in the NFL. And they, so they would do this drug testing. Uh, and the way that I've heard this story from Kevin Seifert, now with the ESPN back with the Star Tribune, is that he got a call from someone at the Minneapolis St. Paul airport and said, you're going to want to come down here and it's Vikings related.

And the they had pulled out of this running back Ontario Smith's bag, this thing called the Wisinator, which is meant to cheat on drug tests. And I will just allow your imagination or Google to help you figure out how exactly that works. But it is called the whizinator. Now let me add to this story that two separate times this whizinator has been sold at auction. And yes, yes, the whizator involved in question was sold in at auction and was in some random sports bar in, I don't know, someplace in Minnesota and then was recently sold again.

So if anyone knows who's Dr. Wisonator. Yeah. People are sick. That's it. Take your money. What are you doing? Oh no. Yeah. There's the 96 questions is another one that's being brought up that who I,

I don't even know how to go down that rabbit hole. There was a player, this has gone viral and now it's even funnier. There was a player for the Vikings who used to do this little schtick where he would go around the locker room and he would ask players random questions. And he'd like to be a little edgy with it sometimes. locker room and he would ask players random questions. Sure. And he'd like to be a little edgy with it sometimes. And he once asked a bunch of players which player in the locker room they would not let their sister date.

Oh, this is like the question. This has been going around college locker rooms too. And for some reason their communications teams think it's fine to put that on the internet, which I don't agree with. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, they all said Stefan Diggs, all of them, except which now is so much funnier, right? With, with his own, uh, love boat. It's so much funnier, but then they got to Stefan Diggs and they said,

who would you not let your sister date? And he said, Stephen Weatherly. And he's like, why? Who is Steven Weatherly? Well, Steven Weatherly was this guy who went to Vanderbilt. He's a great guy. He's like really smart. And he's like, what do you mean Steven Weatherly? He's like the nicest guy. And he's like, why?

And Diggs goes, cause he's ugly. And they posted it. They posted it. No. And it's just, it still shows up from time to time. And it is incredibly funny. Sorry, Steven Weatherly again. Great guy. Didn't deserve it.

Just catching strays left and right. I see. I find issue with that question because yes, it's really funny, but that's the question that circulates in your group chat. That video doesn't actually need to make the Internet. Like we don't need to see the Georgia Bulldogs talking about who they would like to date their sister. Bad press for everyone involved. Yeah, it just goes down a weird, weird place.

And it did with Diggs. And it ended up in a weird place, which involved Cardi B, which now I saw they might have broken up. So. Oh, did that? You're wow. You're more in tune with pop culture than I am. That's scary. I just yeah, I saw one tweet that said like Cardi B erased all references to Stefan Diggs and I was like, I mean, I didn't think they were in it for the long haul. No, could have spelled that one out for you.

None of my football, Matthew, he's he's recommitted to the game. Love of the sport, follows life. He's back. No more, you know, bubble gum or whatever. He was handing out on that boat pop rocks, whatever that was I Don't know that was fun guys. Thank you for sending those around I'm banking up my knowledge now. We've realized I don't know This is not a real big realization But Matthew has incredible Vikings knowledge and lore that I don't and also the age gap is such that

You remember things from when I was quite literally a child Not to rub it in but it's fun to hear it because I was not like cognizant of the NFL in the same way It does feel like oh, I should tell you about the Randy Moss and the mooning Are you not familiar with the mooning drops pants? Okay, this man drops pants and now he's a really respected See the thing is can I say one thing? The pants didn't actually come down, but I'll have to tell you the story. Because my perspective on Randy Moss,

from where I sit, from what I've seen, is that super well-respected broadcaster, really intelligent, very thoughtful, family guy, honorable, legacy, and now I'm hearing all of this, and it's just kind of, it's painting a more full photo. It was a little bit of a different world. Okay. So I'll tell you the whole story here.

This is kind of like our July 4th cookout and we're just, you know, sitting around the fire here telling stories from the old person who was around for this stuff. So the year was 2004. Somebody correct me if I got the year on. It was 2004. And the Vikings are in got the year on, that is 2004. And the Vikings are in the playoffs playing against the Green Bay Packers. Now the Green Bay Packers had a tradition

of mooning the opposing team's bus. They would stand outside and when the opposing team's bus would pull in, then Packers fans would moon the bus. So Randy Moss decided to have a little bit of fun with the Packers. They were ahead in the game late in the game. It's in the playoffs and Moss just completely roasts the Packers corner catches a touchdown and then turns around to the Packers fans and pretends now this is important. Pretends to pull his pants down and moon them. Now this would have been just like a funny little like,

oh, Randy Moss, you old dog. But Joe Buck lost his absolute freaking mind. And Joe Buck said on the broadcast, that is a disgusting act. And of course it has lived in infamy him saying that they t-shirts. I mean there are t-shirts you can buy that say the disgusting act with Randy Moss doing the moon. And it became a thing. It became such a thing in that following week that the owners of the Vikings at the time demanded this not not the current ownership. It was the previous ownership

demanded that Joe Buck not broadcast the next Vikings game because he was biased against the Vikings. No way. Yes. Yes. Did he? No, he broadcast the next game. I mean, obviously like they weren't Fox wasn't going to take him off the network for thinking that a moon was a disgusting act. And Joe Buck has since said that he regretted the call, that he overreacted, and that the Minneapolis miracle digs sideline unbelievable has cleared out all the bad blood mostly. There are some fans who are hanging on to their hatred for Joe Buck, but for a very, very long time, Vikings fans despised Joe Buck because of the disgusting act. But now you can appreciate like the lore of it and the funny nature of the entire incident.

That's great. The fact that he did. So I have a question though. Did he not see that the pants stayed on? I mean he did, but I think that he just like Randy had that year, especially so Randy got traded after that year to the Raiders. It was going, it was bad with him. It was like behavioral issues, or was it a combo of all? It was all that. It was all that. Okay. Red McCombs. Yes. Was the owner at the time. And he was the one that, uh, you know, really, uh, sent out one

of the funniest like press releases maybe ever. And actually we dug this up, um, because, uh, so this led to something else, which was after, and now this, I know you've heard. So after that happened, the local media waited outside the Vikings facility for Randy Moss to come out. And he came out to his truck and a local photog said to him, uh, you know, Hey, Randy, how are you going to pay that fine? And he said straight cash homie. And since then it has been the most famous saying in Minnesota. I didn't, I did an article with the, uh, the journalist who asked him last year about that entire story. It was really fun, but if you've ever heard straight cash homie, that is where it came from. I didn't. Okay. I'd heard it. Did not know that was the context. That's awesome. Oh, so he had an attitude. He had some ego

to him. That is putting it very lightly. Very lightly. Yes. Very lightly. This is funny now also hearing the whole, um, Joe Buck commentary, because from my perspective, if I were working at the NFL in the role that I had back then, when this happened, we have a Monday morning meeting with all of the main game day departments. You have security, you got broadcasting, you got field operations, you got like the main ones that are like game specific. You have all your officiating stuff. And for broadcasting, we have people tracking the commentary of all the games. So on every game we have someone in the week watching, charting what's being said, are we reading our promos right, are we getting

in all our ad reads. Like we're making sure everything's happening. And one of the things is checking in on what the broadcasters are saying and Flagging if there's anything that needs to be brought up in that Monday morning They're like is someone gonna bring this up to us and say that this was a problem or is this gonna rise really high in? the org really fast that like We need to put together a thing where oh we actually reached out to Fox and we talked to their producer and he said it was Okay so it's just interesting to see the behind the scenes of what was probably

happening at that moment right after that game was like, OK, man, you can't say that. But also, like, we're not going to do anything about it because you're Joe Buck. I'm sure. Well, yeah. I mean, at the time, Joe Buck was not Joe Buck of now because he was a pretty young broadcaster at the time. Joe Buck and some may have claimed nepotism here, but he was a good young broadcaster, but he got into big positions, uh, in major league baseball and the NFL at a fairly young age. So 2004,

it wasn't like he was a 50 year old guy. I think that's maybe part of it, just a little bit more on the inexperience side and overreacted to what happened. And I think that's maybe part of it just a little bit more on the inexperience side and overreacted to what happened and I think that he thought it was kind of like his place to make a strong state because See the the play-by-play broadcasters of the previous era before Joe Buck like the Bob Costas who I'm sure you will Endlessly hear about at Syracuse. They won't stop talking about him. Him and Mike Torey go, those are the man. But Bob Costas was a very like principled, very serious guy. And so there's probably some play by play broadcasters now

who would just laugh like, okay, Randy Moss folks. And then they would move on. But Costas kind of had this like, I am responsible for this, the seriousness of the sports and the sanctity of football. Yes. Yes. The sanctity of everything.

No disrespect. I loved him too, but that's kind of like how he was. And I think that Buck was trying to kind of be that like, Oh, this is just, but everybody was a little more uptight, I think, back then about stuff like that. Now we're like, I don't know, the world could end tomorrow. Luke cares if he mooned somebody. Do what you want. That's fine. And we have the NFL social in the back, like taking the video, putting it straight online

for the views, I'm sure. Right. Right. Right. Hilarious. Oh, dusty in the comments saying you don't get revoked from Notre Dame and kicked out of Florida State for not having an edge. Again, guys, I'm learning so much. Did not know that happened. You have to watch Rand. Yeah, you have to watch Rand University. Great documentary. It's only like 90 minutes long. Like put off your homework and watch that. You'll learn more from that Rand. I'm putting in my Rand University. Okay. Sorry, Syracuse. I have other homework to attend to. It's called football. Yeah, exactly. That was fun. Were we supposed to talk about something else tonight? Did you have something else?

Another piece of news was our guy, Darren Waller, unretiring, doing, unretiring, but doing the typical retiree move where he said, actually, the Northeast and the cold is not for me anymore. I want to go to Miami and I'll sign a one year contract because I want to go play in the warm. I want to do the snowbird thing and he's moving down there. So we took what like a season off and was like, ah, kind of getting an itch. Like I need to do this again. I'm getting bored. So he's back. I would advise the Miami Dolphins to tread lightly with Darren Waller. Darren Waller

quit football because he didn't feel like blocking was his explanation for leaving the New York Giants, which doesn't give you a whole lot of confidence. He supposedly demanded a trade out of Las Vegas because the coach of the Raiders at the time, and I'm not making this up, accidentally revealed his engagement or his marriage or something.

Yeah, I think it was his engagement. Yeah. That the coach of the team had said something like yeah, you know, Darren's getting married or whatever and it hadn't been announced yet. So that was in part a reason why he demanded a trade. And then now he's saying he doesn't want to play in the Northeast. Also, that engagement resulted in a very quick divorce because he had married WNBA player Kelsey Plum. And then he made a rap video of that. My brain is exploding today. I'm learning so much. No way.

So he made a rap video. All of this like has nothing to do with anything on the field. But he made a rap video where a woman who looks just like his wife stabbed him in the back and killed him. And so that's what he's been up to over the last year. I'm just going to throw it out there that the odds of this working out great for the Miami Dolphins are pretty low. So I personally, if I was the dolphins, would have just said thanks, but no thanks. Maybe you should stick to rapping.

OK, this is juicy. I'd known all these facts, but no thanks. Maybe you should stick to rapping. Okay, this is juicy. I'd known all these facts, but had not put them all together. I knew obviously he like went on a podcast and started dropping ex-lives saying like, he didn't wanna be blocking. He was playing fullback. That wasn't for him, whatever.

And it sounded like he just didn't like what he was doing, got angry and was like, fine, I quit and had a little toddler moment. And then realized that, oh, all my friends are still playing and I'm actually still physically active and this kind of sucks. Yeah. I mean, my career flop and my wife broke up with me and is now thriving. Yeah. I don't think it's gone that well for Darren Waller since his one really great. Oh, no, we're not talking about Darren Sharper.

I'll let you Google that one. That one's that was too dark. Too dark for a fun podcast. Yeah, that one that one goes into all the Vasanti. Oh, my gosh. Oh, guys. OK, given that you guys are on you. All right. OK, the Vasanti, I can't look directly at you. I'm telling you, it's not just one. The there was a playoff game that the Vikings won. I can't look directly at you. I'm telling you, it's time to shanko one.

There was a playoff game that the Vikings won. Of course, you guys had to bring that one up. And the the post game locker room video didn't consider that players may or may not have been changing behind some of the players that they were interviewing. Sure. That's normal. It's a locker room. And we saw a lot of Vasante Shanko and what I mean is all of Vasante Shanko and it got, yeah, there was a lot going on there. There was, yep, that, that got around.

And this is on broadcast television. Oh yeah. Yeah. There would have been a meeting about this. There was, yep, that, that got around and, uh, on broadcast television. Oh yeah. Yeah. There would have been a meeting about this. There would have been, there was definitely a meeting about this one. Don't Google actually, there would have been a lot of a Santay Shanko and, uh, he was, he was fine with it, but it was way, it was like, Hey, free promo my guy. It was, it was at the right time where social media had just really got going. And it spread like wildfire. What had gone across broadcast television?

So there is the Vasanti Shanko one. But yeah, the Miami Dolphins. Let's just go right back to that. They are. I there they're just desperate, right? They're just flailing and kind of maybe a little sad right now. I just don't, I see that team as being the ultimate kind of just stuck franchise. How do they get better? Like they've lost a lot of talent and I just, if you're signing Darren,

guys, y'all brought it up. I would just like to clear this up. You put it into the chat. Matthew is just the mouthpiece of the chat. So yep. Let's well, it's it's funny. It's funny enough to mention on the show and it is a very memorable moment. But anyway, so I just think that's the really bottom line. If you're desperate enough to be bringing in Darren Waller with all of that baggage,

then you just got problems and I just don't see it going in a good direction for them. Yeah. So what they traded Johnny Smith's Steelers, I'm still a little confused why they've got rid of him. What? I mean, John who Smith and Jalen Ramsey, Ramsey clearly not happy with the situation. Yeah. And I think that's pretty telling about like this guy's getting older in his career and he wants, although he goes, you know, he goes to the Steelers. I don't know if they

can really win, but at least they're taking a shot at it with Aaron Rodgers. Maybe his contract is some part of that, but he's got a good contract. So I think it was just, he doesn't believe in where they're going. And then John who Smith is a fine weapon for them. Was he looking to get out? I'm not really sure why they had to move on from him because he seems like he's a good fit for that type of offense. He can run after catch. And now, you know, it's a better weapon for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I thought the Steelers came out of that trade pretty well.

Yeah, they gave up Minka Fitzpatrick, but it was after a year where he had gone down quite a bit. So I don't know. I just don't, to me it wasn't, it was like a lateral thing for the dolphins. They didn't get better. They didn't, I mean, they got worse, probably not better. I don't know. Yeah. Well, thinking about people unretiring and coming back, we thought we'd play a fun game of let's look at people who recently retired and let's try to build the craziest Viking super team and see if I was one of the Wilfs and had that much money and power would I sign them. And to start this off with Frank rag now, cause how can you not center from the Detroit Lions

recently announced his retirement. It kind of sent shock waves through the league. Yeah, I am taking this man so quickly. We're kind of gonna, for the sense of this argument, overlook the injuries. He's playing and he's enjoying playing. He's not in pain when he's playing. Okay, cool.

That's baseline. But I mean, four time pro bowler, all pro played over seventy five hundred snaps. Like, as we've said before, this guy is legit. Why don't you take him? You what? You've released Garrett Bradbury is now with the Patriots. We have Henry Bird at backup. Did some research on that guy. Fun fact. We actually share a lot of similarities. Henry bird also from Nashville,

Tennessee, my home state. We played in similar high schools, played against each other. I know a football team. That's okay. He also went to Princeton Ivy guy. Love that. And fun fact about Henry bird, your backup center. He tap danced in high school. That's a man who's secure in his masculinity. Let's go. Okay. I did know that, uh, you just went sort of a hundred miles an hour there.

Let me slow you down for a second. I did. What you were asking was players who recently retired recently out of the NFL, that if you could talk them back into it, connecting it to Darren Waller. Yes. So like he's a guy that recently retired. If you could talk them back into, Hey, come out of retirement, just give us one more year. It'll be awesome that you could add to the Vikings. So Frank rag now recently retired. Yes. If he could come back and play for the Vikings, it would be great. Technically. I think Michael Jurgens is probably their backup center, but I'm glad you went down some sort

of Henry bird, uh, rabbit hole hole and I, and Lindsay Young, who works for the Vikings did a, did a story about him. That's what I read. His stage career. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So now that we've gotten to that point,

my answer was going to be, because I saw this guy is in the news recently for being old, Larry Fitzgerald, Larry Fitzgerald, I mean, I don't know if he ever announced his retirement. Clearly he is retired from the NFL and his son just committed to go to Notre Dame, which made me feel 1000 years old having seen Larry Fitzgerald's entire career going back to college. But I think if you were talking about one guy who could probably

still run some routes and make some plays, get him to come out of retirement to play for his hometown team. He is from here. He is one of us. He was actually a ball boy during Randy Moss's time. If right, if, uh, if Larry was going to, and there were a lot of people who thought someday Larry will be a Minnesota Viking. If you could talk him out of it, come be wide receiver three, play with Justin Jefferson. I think he would. I think he would be still pretty darn effective, even if he's a little on the older side. There's definitely something to be said for a hometown guy who has the attention and the respect and the love of the whole community. I feel like if you walk out on that field and you feel that,

I can't imagine the rush that would be as a player to step on the field. Like, man, this city legit has my back. Like, this is crazy. That's honestly, I'm a little surprised that it never happened. It was talked about so many times of like, well, you know, Larry, his contract is up. Like, maybe you'll sign a one year deal. Jason Kelsey coming back for a year. That would be a good one. Although I think the Vikings are finally good at center. Peyton Manning is a backup quarterback is a good answer.

Although based on the way Peyton threw it at the end of his career, I don't know about that. I don't know about that, but you know, you know who might be still pretty good or at least backup level is Philip Rivers could probably his last year in the NFL was not bad at all. Probably still be a backup if you want it to be there was talk that when Jimmy Garoppolo got hurt for the 49ers that they called Ben Rothesberger and tried to talk him out of it Like can you come back just for like one year?

Teddy Bridgewater came out of retirement last year to play a playoff game for the Lions. I mean, Tom, the same kind of, you know, the guys can't get enough of it. I think that's probably a bigger note of when they unretire of like realizing that they've hit their peak and it's it's a different life for them going forward. That will not be the same. One other name I would throw out there is if Everson Griffin could be a situational pass rusher, I would say him too. I know he's still in town, but Everson Griffin did.

He went to after he was with the Vikings, went to Dallas, Detroit and then came back and still had a little juice to him. So he probably still does. OK, OK. I won't lie to you. Just had to look juice to him. So he probably still does. OK, OK. Won't lie to you. Just had to look that guy up. But that's understandable. That's and there's a whole there's a bunch of stories there as well that will leave for another time.

We'll save that for next week. Storytime. Yeah, we might have that. We might have to get it off season with Maggie. It's just campfire time with Matthew. Someone in the comments that it's Grandpa Matt spinning yarns to young Maggie. And I got to say that sums up this episode. It definitely does. Okay. Uh, before you get back to, uh, kid stuff like homework at Syracuse there, what, uh, what else you got? You got anything else? Those are my main things, but I did run across one other story that said Sports Illustrated,

one of the authors thought Jared Goff has peaked and I know this isn't Vikings related, but it's NSC North. I got to say, I don't think so. I got to really disagree with them there, but I do have a player who I do think is peaked. I'm going to hit you with a quarterback. Dak Prescott, man. Oh. to hit you with a quarterback, Dak Prescott, man. Oh, I think nine years and he has not actually been that much of a star. Can't want to play off game. He's real inconsistent.

His deep accuracy is not great. Sometimes he's just kind of heaving it out there. I just his accuracy rate dropped from get this 65% to 52% in 2022, 2024. Like he just hasn't been that good. And he signed to this big $240 million for your deal. I just struggled to see, I feel like he's, he's hit the peak of his career and he's gonna, he's gonna flatline and like be fine. But I don't see him coming back up and like clawing his way back to this momentous win season. I think that that is very possible that 2023 was really the opportunity for the Dallas Cowboys and for Dak Prescott.

Cause they had the number one offense in the NFL that year. And Mike McCarthy had looked like he completely changed the Mike McCarthy narrative. They came out against the Packers, laid an egg from the very first drive and never recovered. And then last year they start what? I don't know, two and five or something with Dak. Their defense gets hurt and then he gets hurt for the rest of the year. He's had a lot of injuries too at this point. I know. He's had a lot of surgeries. My thing with Dak was, I think early in his career, I really thought that he was going to be kind of next level, but then he had, maybe it was an Achilles and it just, he never really wanted to run ever again. And he wanted to totally be a pocket quarterback. And there's just limitations. If you're going to

be a pocket quarterback, I've always thought, you know, you heard me talking about the truth is in the middle with some players. I think it's probably with Dak. Like he's probably better than the playoff record, but he's also not. Some people act like Dak Prescott is just the genius and incredible top quarterback. And I think he's kind of in that Kirk range, Kirk cousins when Kirk is at his best of like eight to 12. I was going to say the same thing. And I think it's the of in that Kirk range, Kirk cousins, when Kirk is at his best of like eight to 12. I was going to say the same thing. And I think it's the Dallas shine that's rubbing off and the vibe that they put off as an organization and the way that they interact with the media of like, no, we got this great guy. Like let's polish him up and really make it almost feels like it's being, wow, sorry,

this camera just zooming in on my hands. They're just hyping him up a little out of proportion in my opinion, but in correspondence with the media machine and the hype machine of the cowboys. Yeah. I think when it's, it's sort of like, depends on what week it is. Like if they have had a big win on national TV, then they're going to talk about DACA as if he's an elite quarterback. And if they've had a loss, then they're going to talk about DACA as if he's just terrible and they And if they've had a loss, then they're going to talk about Dak as if he's just

terrible and they need to get rid of him. But, uh, where he deserves credit is his negotiation with the Cowboys, where, uh, he took them to the cleaners. Of course that's going to result in them struggling with their salary cap going forward, which again reminds us of the Kirk Cousins era with the Vikings, where they just couldn't get to the next level. I think Dusty's right now that they have George Pickens he'll throw for 4500 yards and be out in the first round. I've had a theory too about just pressure in general and how it can really

collapse people, organizations, players, coaches. that Dallas thing is just a pressure cooker. And since Troy Aichman retired, it seems like everybody collapses underneath it. Tony Romo's entire career was Tony Romo's a choker. He's a choker. He can never get over the top. And then Dak Prescott has the same thing happened to him. It almost feels like that team has so much media on it all the time that and there's so much every year there's more and more of this.

You'll never be the nineties cowboys again. You'll never and it just doesn't go away because that's where all their fans came from. It's so all of their fans are still around and all their fans saw the heyday and they just expect the Cowboys to always be that. And it just builds on itself. And I don't know who could handle it, but. Yeah, I guess I feel like the Cowboys fan base has not gained any new fans, except for the ones who it's been passed down from generation to generation with their dads like, and here is your Cowboys jersey.

Merry Christmas. This is now your team. I like my friends aren't like, Oh man, let's go like Dallas Cowboys. No, it's just kind of a forgettable team in the actual football sense. Right. I mean, they've had a few years where, and 2023 was one of them where they're a 12 and five team and they've got a chance. But you're right. As far as how often they deserve to be in the limelight versus how often they are in the limelight does not match up at all over the last 20 years. And yeah, talk about generations. To me, that still makes sense. Cause I'm like, well, you know, Michael Irvin and Emmett Smith and,

but to anyone under the age of 30, it's probably like, why did they talk about the Cowboys? Right. Because they have the biggest fan base, I think, in the entire NFL. Oh, they do. And I think I mentioned this previously, but when we were scheduling games like you take into account that Dallas and Kansas City are going to draw eyeballs regardless of where you put them and regardless of who you play them against. So if the networks want a big game, those are the teams that are in high demand of like,

yeah, I know it's the Cowboys, but like, we're still going to play them. We're still going to have a blowout show at halftime and a pregame show. And again, play into the spectacle of it because that's what gets eyeballs because that's what brings the money. Right. Exactly. Okay. Well, uh, this was a lot of fun and I'm sure that there will be more stories

that come along as we continue our conversations, but we are only a couple of weeks out from actual training camp. Things will happen. Storylines will come up. Maybe we'll even on next week, get into the NFL 100, which is counting down and we'll see how many Vikings are on that list and so forth because it is indeed July. But, uh, we'll, we'll have a lot, you know, to talk about very soon, I think. And until then, we'll just sit around the campfire and do this. But, uh, Maggie, great job as always. And I will see you next Monday evening. Sounds good. This was fun. Y'all football.

All right. I didn't expect to tell all those stories, but, uh, that was a good time. Maggie Robinson, intern Maggie there at Syracuse. So, uh, Thursday night, by the way, folks, there's a lot coming. This is, uh, on the podcast this week, there is a tape guy week. So I'm interviewing a bunch of X's and O's tape analysts. And, uh, that'll be really fun diving into like deep into the X's and O's of the Minnesota Vikings as we lead up to training camp. And then Thursday night, I'll, you know, do the, uh, the rest of the most interesting lists, the second part or the last part of that numbers one

through five. So I'm glad you guys enjoyed it. Thank you for the audience participation and maybe some stories that should be left untold. But thanks everybody, this was a really fun stream and we will talk to y'all again very soon. Football.