Purple Insider - a Minnesota Vikings and NFL podcast - TMLG: Which Alabama players should be on the Vikings? What's to be done with Danielle Hunter?

Episode Date: January 12, 2021

Matthew Coller and former Minnesota Viking Jeremiah Sirles break down the NCAA National Championship game with a Vikings lens and talk about whether trading Danielle Hunter is the right move. Would he... be worth enough on the market to move him? Or should they just re-work his contract? Plus we talk about the NFL playoffs and which games we can't wait to see this weekend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Get Coors Light in the new look delivered straight to your door with Drizzly or Instacart, Coors Brewing Company, Golden, Colorado, and as always, celebrate. Welcome to another episode of Tuesday Morning Left Guard. Matthew Collar here along with former Minnesota Viking Jeremiah Searles, who this morning is wearing his Buffalo Bills shirt. A proud day for you, a former Buffalo Bill. And honestly, Jeremiah, I mean, I was nine years old the last time that the Buffalo Bills won a playoff game. And I do remember it and the excitement in Buffalo the last time, very, very long time ago that they won. So we will get into everything playoffs but
Starting point is 00:01:45 I mean what a great weekend look I was not mad about the seventh playoff spot and the competition level as I was watching this weekend and doing nothing but sink into my couch for 20 hours over two days absolutely I love the seventh I love the three games a day thing that was phenomenal you got literally it felt like I was watching red zone but i wasn't because usually you just watch red zone you just sit there and watch all day but then you can literally watch but the nice thing was there was no like oh this game's trash this game's not that fun like as terrible as the saints and the chicago game was like it was still fairly competitive for most of the game even though it was awful football but it was just fun to sit and watch some good football good teams teams i think deserve to be there and just continue to work through it but i loved it but
Starting point is 00:02:29 it's also there's a sad part of me because i know that every weekend going forward now there's less and less football and i was talking to my buddy last night during the national championship game where i was like this is this is the end yeah like this this is it like college football is now done for me which i'm a big college football fan so i was very sad about that hello darkness my old friend no college football again until september oh it is yeah it is i have that feeling every single year and i felt that at the end of the viking season like week 17 uh i had no interest in watching vikings lions but as it was ending i was like it's gonna be a long time like there's pre-season games right in the late july or whatever or august yeah i hope so i hope that we are all vaccinated enough to go to have
Starting point is 00:03:19 pre-season games but anyway that's another podcast. So the playoffs are great. We're going to get to all those things. But I have a Vikings offseason topic that I want to address with you that I think is very interesting. And I've gotten some great questions from Vikings fans about this. Daniil Hunter's situation has been one where we've kind of been like, yeah, what's up with that? Because we have gotten no answers whatsoever since one tweet by Ian Rappaport about how Daniil Hunter either wants to be traded
Starting point is 00:03:49 or be the highest paid defensive end. And the Vikings have talked as if he's just coming back and it's gonna be all good. You plug him back in, there's 15 sacks for you and you move on with your life. I wonder what you think about the idea of trading Daniil Hunter because of the price tag, the cap situation, and the value that they could potentially get back versus reworking his contract, which I think is very clear that he wants to do. I struggle because you go back and forth on it.
Starting point is 00:04:21 You look at it as, okay, they didn't have Daniil Hunter this year, so he kind of has all the cards in the sense that he's like look what I can do and look what happens when I'm not on the field but then you flip it on the other side it's like yeah but you had a neck injury that you might not be the same guy you might not give us 17 or plus games because of that neck injury and I think that it's really hard for teams and players to to come to agreements when that's the opposite side that you're looking at of hey i'm a 16 to 17 sacks a year guy you should pay me like that and then the team goes but your neck's broken and and like so there's this huge conflict of interest between there and it kind of goes back to the eric kendrick's thing where we all
Starting point is 00:05:01 knew how important eric kendrick was until and like we were like man he's really good but then when there's the absence of eric kendrick you're like wow he actually is that much better than everyone else thinks he is and so i think that they're going to try and find a way to keep him there because if you lose daniel hunter off this defensive line you might as well just burn it down and start over because there's no mainstay left from any of the championship run team there's nobody left on that front four that even remembers the names of the guys that were on that championship run team or the NFC championship what I'm talking about and if you look at it the only thing I'm giving up for him is a first round pick that's it and I don't necessarily know if people are in the market of giving up first round picks for a
Starting point is 00:05:43 defensive end coming off next surgery. It's interesting because the two teams that were playing in the Seattle and the Los Angeles Rams game, both of them gave up multiple first round picks for a defensive back. And for one team, they're really regretting it. And for the other team, they're feeling great about it. And you know, Chicago gave up a ton for Khalil Mack and none of those players were coming off of the injury. But so let's just say that there's medical clearance because we don't know. And I can't
Starting point is 00:06:10 speculate, Hey, how's your neck? And Daniel, like he hasn't talked at all in public and he's tweeted out or Instagrammed a couple of videos of him working out or whatever, which, you know, impressive because it's Daniel Hunter, but to say you're for sure going to be the same is hard. So let's just go on the assumption that he is going to be Daniil Hunter. The, that is a player that you want to have on your defense. But one thing that both Khalil Mack and Jamal Adams kind of show you is that if you're asking somebody to be, and Jalen Ramsey too, there's a difference between asking somebody to be the final piece to a defense like Khalil Mack or Jalen Ramsey and asking someone to be the savior of the defense for a ton of money for a huge cap hit.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And I feel like if they rework his contract to make him the highest paid guy and they sort of, you know, all right, we'll do whatever you want. You're holding us hostage because we have Jalen Holmes. Otherwise, I feel like asking him to be the savior of the defense is not the way to go with that. And if you can get first round picks for it and have, you know, two first round picks this year or get your second round back to go along with that, you know, whatever it might be, and save $20 million. Like that is a lot to get in exchange for someone who I think is one of the elite players at his position,
Starting point is 00:07:32 but there's only so much one guy can do for a defense. I agree. And I think that you're exactly right. He is not the, he's not going to come in and make everything better. He's not going to come and make our 30th ranked defense a top five defense like the one guy. We got more issues than just Daniel Hunter.
Starting point is 00:07:50 But will he make you a 15th ranked defense? Possibly. I mean, he's that good. And so when you look at a guy like that, you think, is it worth the cap hit? But then you got to – the problem is, is usually like you look at what they did for like Camille Lacks or Cleo Mack, Jamal Adams, Ramsey. They had their offense pretty much set on those teams already. They knew that their offenses were good.
Starting point is 00:08:12 They were just missing the piece on defense. You flip at the Vikings and you're going, we got issues all over the place. I don't think we can afford to just plug into this one player and then just ignore everything else and just think that we're going to be better all around as a football team now looking at a broader lens of not just defense, but offense, defense, special teams,
Starting point is 00:08:31 and think are the picks going to help us more overall down the road than just having Daniil for the next two or three years or whatever it might be. Because if you think Daniil's going to need another big contract soon with how young he is. I mean, the dude's like 23 24 years old now and so I think that if you can get a first round pick for him maybe but the problem is like I said I don't know how many people are going to give up a first round pick for a guy coming off a neck surgery because medical I mean you talk
Starting point is 00:09:01 about being able to go out there and produce that's the biggest piece but a lot of people are just like is he even going to be around and I don't know if he's not about being able to go out there and produce. That's the biggest piece. But a lot of people are just like, is he even going to be around? And I don't know if he's not going to go work out for teams because it's not like he's a free agent. Like it's going to be this big guessing game. And that's a lot of money to risk on an investment that you don't know if he's going to be what he was before he got hurt. Yeah, that's a good point. I think about what you can do with $20 million in cap space. Now that that's, of course, they're not going to structure it to have a higher cap
Starting point is 00:09:31 hit. So it'd probably be about the same or a little bit lower in the first year because nobody likes kicking money down the road as much as the Minnesota Vikings. And then the bill comes and you go, Oh, we have to get rid of our whole defense. Okay, I guess we'll do that. And you know what's funny about that is just it's, well, had to do it, and Linval played well, and Rhodes played well. And, you know, I'm just throwing that out there that maybe you made your own bed a little bit when it came to that defense. So the people who say, well, there was nothing they could do,
Starting point is 00:10:01 well, there was something they could do, and that's not kick the cash down the road over and over and over and over, but that's, that's a side point. But I was thinking about like the Baltimore Ravens this year and how they put together their defensive line. They trade for in Gawkway, they get Colias Campbell, they signed Derek Wolf, who's kind of a fun player, right? Like they, they, they get up Pernell. I'm sure you're not a huge fan of a lot of defensive linemen. Purnell McPhee, who you know is really good. And they just sort of sign all these guys or bring them in. And they add up to $20 million.
Starting point is 00:10:33 There's like four good players here for $20 million. And that's kind of a point about Hunter and just what it takes is, would you rather have four guys who can fill four different spots? A nickel corner and uh you know a three technique and all these things and i mean the answer just might have to be yes because of the cap situation they've put themselves in i think a lot of it too is going to have to be i mean besides that one tweet we don't know is daniel willing to say hey i'll take like i'll take my same money and come back and prove it.
Starting point is 00:11:07 But if I prove it, then I want to be the next highest paid player, right? Like I'm staying on my contract, but unless if I come back next year and I show who I am and I show what I can do, and then like, you better, you better pay me or I'm, or then I'm holding out. I could see Daniel doing something like that. But I mean, if that's the case, then there is a little bit more wiggle room to go get one or two more guys. But if he's going to, like you say, hold a knife to your throat and say, pay me or I'm not, I'm out. You got to move
Starting point is 00:11:33 them. You really don't have a choice. I want to ask you about another thing before we get to love to see it, hate to see it on the playoffs, but I have a tweak to love to see it, hate to see it. So I'll explain that in a second second you and i both watched the national championship game last night i want you to tell me which player or players on the field last night that you want to see become minnesota vikings and i'm gonna i could start out you start you start go ahead christian barmore yeah come on come on over here come over here it's colder here but you play indoors uh Christian Barmore was a freaking beast and there are good offensive linemen on Ohio State's team that he shredded last night and
Starting point is 00:12:17 Justin Fields was under pressure all night long from him up the middle uh Wyatt Davis is a good offensive lineman in the first half. Barmore beat him. And, you know, hey, if you're looking for a three technique who can create pressure and stuff the run and comes from the right university where they have a lot of guys who do that, Christian Barmore might be your guy. And I mean, to perform the way he did in these two college playoff games against really good offensive lines,'m impressed i would agree i was gonna say he he fits the mold for exactly i don't know if he'll even still be there when minnesota gets to pick being the issue i mean he might have worked himself into a top 10 type pick
Starting point is 00:12:54 depending how he tests at the combine but i mean if you just go off straight skill and straight game tape he wasn't he was phenomenal i mean it didn't matter what they did the center couldn't reach him the guard couldn't reach him he was just pushing the pocket up the middle but I mean you mentioned a name on there too I would really like to see Alex Leatherwood for the left tackle from Alabama get a shot at Minnesota Purple I think that he fits a guy he fits a scheme he's incredibly athletic it's incredibly stout in the pass game and he can really run and i think that if you decide to move on from um riley reef if that's your decision and you want to leave ezra cleveland at guard you go draft a guy like alex leatherwood who is a true left tackle who played left tackle in college
Starting point is 00:13:39 you don't mess with his position you don't mess with a position change and all that and you just plug him in at left tackle and let him do his thing and yeah he might take his lumps as a young player but you look at a guy like Willis for the Cleveland Browns he's gotten so much better as the year progressed on like he's just gotten better and better each and every week and that's what you do with the first round guy that you take at that level and say hey your job figure it out as you go we'll help you we'll coach you we'll get you. But like your God-given ability will give you the best. I think Leatherwood probably top three, top four tackle in this year's draft could still be on the board there when Minnesota picks in the first round.
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Starting point is 00:15:06 that's looking to take guys who are going to be good three, four years down the road. They want people to play right away in the situation that they're at. And I think Leatherwood is the rare guy who would be able to step in right away. And plus, I mean, Mac Jones all year long has just had a lot of time to throw the football, back there waiting for wide receivers to get wide open uh and of course i got a bunch of tweets last night and i don't hate it of uh davante smith if teams like jamar chase more and he does drop into the middle of the first i know that he's skinny i would have some concerns there getting off the line he's going number three to miami you're out of your mind they're gonna get worried about his skinniness it doesn't matter he's played that way his entire college career he doesn't take the big hits he understands who
Starting point is 00:15:51 he is and what he does and the way he just glides along the turf as he runs like a gazelle running from a lion it's absurd like he understands like yes he got hit hard he dislocated his finger I don't necessarily know if that's like oh he's so skinny oh he's so skinny he broke his finger his finger it's just like it's like dude the dude has proven time and time again like he i don't think he's missed much time for injury like and he will go number three or i'm guessing he'll still go number three to miami okay very possible that he does go higher i just wonder about you know you know, like in the NFL, you know, you know how they are with this stuff. Look at Deshaun Jackson. He's skinny. He's fast. It's the outlier. I mean, you get, and he's still like 15 pounds heavier than, than Smith is. I'm saying that this happens
Starting point is 00:16:37 a lot in the NFL where you get to the combine, everybody weighs in, everybody runs their thing. And then all of a sudden it's, Ooh, questions about this guy can he do that you know they do that and that's where and that's where the value picks come in is when you say oh they don't uh they're not drafting aaron donald number one because he's a little lighter than some of the other guys right this happens all the time and i'm just saying that you know you get into that range if you got one of those top wide receivers, it's not the craziest thing. I don't think they'll do it. I think there's a case for it. So what do you think about John battle? The safety for Alabama? I think that I like him. I think he's a good player. I think he fits and he would fit.
Starting point is 00:17:18 He would fit a Zimmer scheme. Well, I think, I think if you're taking a safety in the first round though, like, is that something that you want to do if you're saying everything first round here i thought we're just saying who do we want oh yeah sure okay i'm not saying first round i'm saying he might be a second third i don't we don't have a second right he might be a third third fourth round pick i mean i don't necessarily know if he's gonna be the top safety off the board okay he might be yeah i could be wrong i wasn't sure about his status like is he a guy
Starting point is 00:17:45 who's going to be a first round pick i was just thinking from a positional value right you have harrison smith and he can still well it depends what you do with anthony harris right right yeah if you're if you're signing harris back which um i know that a lot of people don't want to probably but um the way he played this year he might actually be a good deal to be able to sign back. Cause you're like, well, you didn't get all the interceptions this year. So sign a cheap deal and then he'll like get them next year or something. But yeah, no, I can't say that I watched him close enough to give you like a completely hot
Starting point is 00:18:15 take, but should they be thinking, taking a safety higher than sixth round if they're going to move on from Anthony Harris? Probably because the idea of last year like let's take a bunch of safeties and see in the seventh um no it didn't exactly work out i like the idea of um getting somebody off the free agent market who can just do the job but um i'll give you another one um but this guy is not a scheme fit but i love him and i want him on whatever football team that i watch is deontay brown like uh his body looks like bowser and he is 350 pounds he's enormous
Starting point is 00:18:56 three it's like this is not a fire hydrant this is like two fire hydrants sitting next to each other he's a volkswagen beetle that's amazing and you know he moves too it's like um it's like a richie incognito sort of like a you know that shape so i love the problem with guys like him are you worry about and i've seen it where they go through their i've been in alabama they've been wherever for so long and they've had their regiments and their diets and then they get through the combine process where they have everyone on their butts 24 7 and keep your weight down they get through the season or and they're at the facility they get their and then also they come back for year two of otas and they're 400 pounds uh yeah yeah and you're like whoa hi what happened and i don't know the scale's wrong right like i've seen
Starting point is 00:19:39 it i've seen it firsthand i watched it happen my rookie year i'm not gonna say the guy's name and embarrass him but i came back my second year to san diego and we get on the scale for otas and i weigh in 311 boom goal weight done he gets on after me 402 oh my god and he was like scales heavy scales heavy i was like no no it's not and he literally just ate himself out of a job i mean he hasn't been the same since and so there is a worry with those guys that are big like that, that if you're not on them 24-7, that they will eat themselves out of a job come the offseason. And so that adds more. But he is a mammoth of a human.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yeah, I still love him. I know exactly what you're talking about. One of those runs I think was on the left side, and he big arms the guy with his left arm all the way across. And then this two-arm bench presses him up off the ground and plants him. I had my neighbors. I was watching. I was like, rewind that.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I go, rewind. I just watched this man. That's a grown man manhandling another grown man. He is huge. Yeah. He was super fun to watch last night. What would you think about taking dickerson late rounds late rounds rehabbing him and having him be kind of a guy i
Starting point is 00:20:53 could see them i could see a team i don't know if the vikings will do it but i mean remington award winner best center in the country big physical guy i mean when he was out there for the coin toss i was like wow i didn't realize how big he actually is. But he's not going to get drafted super high with that ACL tear, but he might be a guy that you could draft four, five and have on the bench, rehab him the right way and then be ready to go for 2022. Yeah. I mean, this is a thing that the Vikings have not done well and that they need to do well is find some mid to late round offensive linemen that are good tell me how you really feel matt tell me how you really feel you thought i was gonna say something really brilliant i was waiting for some profound no they need to find well i mean look
Starting point is 00:21:39 now i know the patriot way and all that sort of stuff but they found a good offensive lineman like the sixth round and sometimes you can in the later rounds that can play guard. And even if the guy turns out to be just solid depth, you need that because, I mean, Drew Samia was not solid depth this year. So like, yeah, I mean, do I like the idea of taking a guy who might have a high ceiling in the, in the fifth or sixth? Absolutely. I think that's the way to go. I'll throw one more at you. If Mac Jones is there in the third, which he might be,
Starting point is 00:22:08 might be because I think he's got some Mason Rudolph vibes and he's also got some Sean Hill body vibes. I was going to say that body pick last night. It's not doing him any favors. He's if you're going to be a top pick, you can't look like me. You just can't. I remember walking into the kids. Cause that's dad. That's dad. That's a dad bod for sure. I walked into the Vikings locker room for the first time and I saw Sean Hill and I was like, that guy's in the NFL. I feel great about myself. And I love Sean Hill. I mean, he's what a career for that guy. I mean, what a classic journeyman, but I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:41 what a dad bod though. Unreal. So so look you're not going to be a first round pick with that body but uh third round pick maybe I can see it I mean yeah you got to draft someone here pretty soon to hand the reins over to and I think Mac Jones is a good guy that he's got the arm talent but I just can't get over how much he looks like Tom Brady because I think it's the long socks where he like kind of folds down his long socks and then like the way he tries to run with his flat feet I just I couldn't like anytime he ran it was like ah like get down like you're gonna get hurt and then like the one time he got tackled he got up limping you're like of course yeah yeah there is a severe lack of athleticism that I think would limit him from ever being a very very good quarterback in the NFL
Starting point is 00:23:23 today uh and if you're making Kirk Cousins comparisons about quarterbacks in college, that's usually not good. Well, because I mean, think about like, this is a fourth round talent in Cousins who had to really maximize a hundred percent of his skill to be a good NFL quarterback. How many guys are able to do that? Usually it's their physical skills. So here's what I want to play. I want to play and you can pick anyone. Does it have to be an order? Love to see it, hate to see it, or can't wait to see it for the NFL playoffs. And I'm going to get one out of the way.
Starting point is 00:23:58 It's going to make me sound like a miserable Gus from watching this weekend's game, but hate to see it is refs. Just hate, just bad job, bad, bad, bad. You didn't do good. You did bad. There was so like, look, if you can't get reviews right after we all watch the same dang thing over and over, don't even bother reviewing anything. Okay. Just kill the review entirely. If when the guy for the Colts stands up entirely and is moving his body forward and then fumbles and they're like, I don't know, might've got a fingernail on him. Like, Oh, forget this. Then this isn't even worth it. You get it just as wrong. And there were numerous calls. I mean, there were eight penalties in the whole first three games. That is a joke they pick the most uh opportune time to keep tennessee in the game with a penalty that was the ticky tackiest of the ticky tack just cut it out referees i was very very frustrated over the weekend so i hated to see that all right my hate to see is i for the
Starting point is 00:24:57 first time i really thought that i saw derrick henry be kind of drama queen ish on the sideline derrick henry and, they're kind of getting after each other. Henry's coming off, like not listening to him kind of rolling his eyes. I'm like, what, what is going on here? Like, you're not like this emotional, like, I don't know if something was said, I don't know if something was going on, but like, that's not what you see. Like, I always say like nothing rattles that guy, like so many times someone will hit him and he just like, they like kind of get up in his face and he's kind of stands up ahead above the rest of them like runs back to the huddle but this was the first time I saw Derrick Henry get rattled and I hated to see that because I
Starting point is 00:25:31 actually had Tennessee winning this football game I idiotically took the bet but I thought that they were going to win I thought that they were going to ground and pound them down and I didn't think Lamar Jackson was going to go full superhero mode on the ground so I hated to see that game but I really just hated to see that that kind of was the last impression of Derrick Henry's incredible season this year yeah no you're right and they did an amazing job of the defensive line of the Baltimore Ravens in slowing him down and there were even times where he was breaking tackles and it didn't matter like they were just gang tackling him and that's where this is what happens when you have play action quarterbacks is that if you get stopped on the ground one time it's over
Starting point is 00:26:12 and we saw that last year with the Vikings in San Francisco like the minute the 49ers stuffed the run it was just over and I that's one of the you know extreme limitations to having a quarterback like that and having a system like that because what are you going to do in the one of the extreme limitations to having a quarterback like that and having a system like that, because what are you going to do in the middle of the game? Just be like, oh, it's not really working. Like, change everything, everyone. This is not Madden. Your plan was to work off of your run success. And we've seen this too many times also with the Vikings where, oh, Chicago and Akeem Hicks shut down their run. Now, what are you going to do? While you're just going to struggle the rest of the way is what happened so much. I'm going to go love to see it. Jared Goff showing some toughness. I think Jared Goff gets like the worst reputation for a guy who is a number one overall pick and took his team to the super bowl. And by the way, didn't he have like a receiver drop and open potential touchdown in the super bowl that would have maybe helped them win it. You know, like that losing the super bowl for him and Garoppolo made people think those
Starting point is 00:27:13 guys are like trash and they're only decent because of their coaches. I'm not saying that I would take him over Patrick Mahomes or something, but give some respect to Jared Goff for that performance coming off the bench with a broken thumb and make it a big place. Not just a broken thumb, just got like four pins in his thumb. Like they had to like pin his thumb back together. And first of all, Jamal Adams absolutely killed that one court. I thought he broke his jaw.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Like when, when he got hit, I was like, oh my gosh, this dude's jaws just snapped in half. Like, and he stood up and they're like doing the whole, like moving to the jaw, like to the hospital. Like, gosh, that's death Jamal Adams. But I think that, I mean, golf is a gunslinger. And I think he's also one of those guys. It's like classic millennial, like, no, whatever, man.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Like, yeah, nothing bothers me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't care about nothing. And sometimes that gets them into trouble, but I mean, going out there and slinging the rock, even though some of those balls had absolutely no juice on them whatsoever i mean it looked like he's playing 500 in the backyard at times um i think that he absolutely deserves some toughness he absolutely earned a lot of points i think with a lot of guys around the nfl a lot of people in
Starting point is 00:28:17 the media just showing out there going out there just gritting out a win for sure i think just like give the guy some credit for what he's accomplished and don't give it all to Sean McVay because look you saw Nick Mullins right I mean these guys are good like Nick Mullins can't win at all anytime he ever goes in because he's way worse than Jimmy Garoppolo and the same thing goes for for Jared Goff I mean he's 42 and 27 in his career and a trip to the Super Bowl. I mean, give him some credit. My love to see it for playoff edition is the salt and pettiness of Pittsburgh Steelers players. I think that you've got it started during the week of Juju, for whatever reason, thinks it's a great idea to be like, oh, the Browns are the Browns, you know, the same team I've always played and just basically like pooped all over them right yeah and you're just like why do you know baker mayfield
Starting point is 00:29:09 eats that stuff alive like if there's one quarterback you really don't want to like fire up because it might make him play better it's baker because you know he's reading that you know he's got everyone in his mother that sends it to him on social media. And so it started with that. And then to end it with the Claypool Instagram live, like, ah, bad loss, but you know, Browns just gonna get clapped next week anyways. It's like, are you guys that petty? Like that's salted, that petty. Like you guys got absolutely dirt stomped
Starting point is 00:29:38 by the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, you tried to make it competitive at the end of the game, but like stop being so like petty and ridiculous about it all be professionals learn from it and don't make the same mistake instead of you know what nope double down come back on it like i just i think it's ridiculous i want to tell you about blue wire hustle a brand new program where you can host your very own podcast here at blue wire
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Starting point is 00:31:43 Um, there's a lot of reasons to think that they won't go anywhere in the playoffs. And Pittsburgh players were like making fun of them online. Like, Oh, you guys, I bet you can't even run faster. We're like, it doesn't matter if you can run fast. Like the job is to analyze data and the data says you're not that good, bro. And like, it's not, it's just someone analyzing data over football is not being a hater. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Like it's just, and the same, and the same thing goes for like, acknowledge that you lost and just eat it. And you know, why are you, why are you trying to like downplay what they did? They just beat your ass. They were up 28 to nothing. Own it, man. Like take some, that's another thing is like taking responsibility for losing. Like, why don't you, why don't you take some responsibility for your team, you know, getting
Starting point is 00:32:27 boat raced in that game and embarrassed on national television. I don't know. And it seems logical to me. I mean, I also it's, is it big Ben's last game? Did we see the final big Ben football game? I think we did. It should be. I think we did.
Starting point is 00:32:42 He didn't mean so many years. I'm used to seeing guys like Ben moving in the pocket, hanging off of him, and he literally looks like he can't move within a four-foot radius. And with the way the game is going with the mobile quarterbacks and the defensive ends that are like freaking cheetahs coming off the edge, like he's got to be able to move a little bit. And the thing with trying to adapt to have him throw short passes all the time yeah it's not
Starting point is 00:33:06 his thing man no tips and overthrows tips and overthrows yep yep is a problem so i'm gonna go with uh can't wait to see it of course there's like a bajillion things that are can't wait to see it but i'm not gonna go too far off the board here tom brady drew breeze two guys who also could be playing their last games although tom brady looks breeze two guys who also could be playing their last games although tom brady looks like he's going to play till he looks like george blanda um but that matchup is just unbelievable i you know this happens to me all the time when there's games like this i just feel sad that someone is going to like have to lose and have to be like oh it's drew breeze's last game but he lost or whatever you that's gonna, it's gonna feel kind of sad,
Starting point is 00:33:46 but it reminds me of when you would see like Joe Montana and John Elway going at it and the playoffs or something like that. Like this is as classic and as legendary as it gets. And this might be the last time we ever see these two quarterbacks go at it. And they've got an argument for number one and number five all time or, or something like that um so i can't wait to see those two guys go after it i mean but my question is is do does it look the same as it did during the regular season where the saints just absolutely just stomp all over
Starting point is 00:34:17 these guys like the buccaneers didn't put up a fight against these guys for gosh knows whatever reason i mean i just didn't understand it it's like they were almost like the Saints came out like we we know what you're gonna do and we're just better than you like I do think there's a Tom Brady playoff edge like obviously Chase Young found that out like don't poke the bear but I mean I think that again I'm super excited for this matchup strictly because you said I mean I don't think they've ever met in the playoffs before because AFC NFC right and so I mean just that going to be a super fun matchup to watch. I think with the emergence of Tampa's offense, do we have any idea if Mike Evans is playing? I would assume that
Starting point is 00:34:52 he is. Okay. He played the last game and played well. I haven't seen anything to suggest that he's out. I do. I am reminded though, of the time that the jets beat the heck out of the Patriots and then they faced each other in the playoffs again. And I think the Patriots won like it. I am reminded, though, of the time that the Jets beat the heck out of the Patriots and then they face each other in the playoffs again. And I think the Patriots won like it. I mean, Tom Brady getting a third shot at somebody and the way that their offense has been operating. Like the story was Taylor Heineke the other day. But OK, fine. Tom Brady against the top five defense put up 31 points and had the highest pff grade of anyone in the playoffs like if i'm new orleans and they have a phenomenal defense but if i'm new orleans i'm pretty concerned about how spry he looks going in the playoffs yeah he looks like he got rejuvenated i think giselle took him to the spa and got him got him right avocado ice cream yeah so um my can't wait to see it is you got
Starting point is 00:35:42 lamar jackson josh allen yes uh you got two first rounders that were coming out in that year. I mean, that quarterback class is proving to be everything that it would turned out to be. You got a Bills team that is red hot on the offensive side of the football thrown. And then you've got a Ravens team. That's mean they've won six out of the last seven, I think. So, I mean, you got two absolutely red hot offenses. This is one of those games you just hammer the over right like this is this looks like one of those games where you're gonna see a 35 to 28 or 42 to 35 type of game because I think that both teams are very willing to score points but I think
Starting point is 00:36:17 Buffalo's defense is going to be the one that really has to step up to win this game like if Buffalo wants to win this game it's going to have to be on the defensive side of the football and as of late they've played better. I think people underestimated how good the Colts defense really was. The Colts defense was extremely good. And to see what the Bills able to move the ball down the field, methodically get it in the end zone time and time again, showed me that this, this Bills team is really built to go the long haul.
Starting point is 00:36:40 So I'm excited to see those two quarterbacks go after it. Very different styles. I mean, Lamar's going to try and run all over the place I think Josh is gonna try and throw for 400 yards again and go from that but this is gonna be a really fun game in Orchard Park the Bills offensive line is really good and I thought overall they did a great job against Indianapolis but Baltimore can really come after the quarterback so I I will be interested too it's's like they, Indianapolis didn't blitz Josh Allen very often. They tried to make him sit back there and read and read and read the defense.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And I thought it worked for a lot of the game. There were other times where I was surprised they weren't more aggressive, but I think I might pick Baltimore in this game. The one thing that's really, that's hard for me is the loss of Zach Moss, the running back, the rookie out of Utah. He was their physical hammer.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Singletary has really struggled a lot this year. He hasn't done a lot of like breaking the tackles. And so without Zach Moss, I worry about them trying to get, I did just see that they signed Freeman to their practice squad. So who knows? I mean, how about Jared Valdeer?
Starting point is 00:37:40 How about Jared Valdeer? Yeah. Freaking signs off the couch. He looks like he's 280 pounds, by the way, left tackle for the Colts signs off the couch he looks like he's 280 pounds by the way left tackle for the colts signs off the couch goes to the colts plays a playoff game loses since he was not on the regular 53 man roster he then gets released gets signed by the packers to now go possibly win a super boring this dude could go from on his couch diddling his thing to winning a super bowl in a matter of like a month that is uh only this year literally
Starting point is 00:38:05 this year where this could possibly happen um and that will be very interesting to watch by the way uh no david boctieri for the green bay packers in terms of your storyline so all right is there uh is there a is there one more bonus can't wait to see it from you before we wrap up see if the chiefs have regrouped and look like the high power chiefs we're used to seeing i mean i think that this week off did wonders for them would be my guess that they might come out and it's like you know what browns good run but we're still the kansas city chiefs and we're gonna go just throw the ball over the place so i i don't know i think that they their struggles at the end of the season i think that they were just kind of
Starting point is 00:38:43 getting beat down a little war down i mean they've been the championship run and the whole bit so i think this week off andy reed's such a great coach he's gonna have them just rocking in a role and i can see them just coming out in prime form again where it's like okay well i don't know if anyone can beat these dudes the physical nature of playoff games i just remember last year being in new orleans and watching the first round game and i thought i have no idea how you're going to go on the road and play another game and that's what cleveland's going to have to do they get their coach back though so if they lose it's all fanski's fault like right i thought that one of your love to see it was going to be players not really practicing and then going out and playing great like yeah they could probably do that a lot more i'm curious
Starting point is 00:39:22 if that's what's going to start happening i mean if i'm the players you know and be like hey look titans i mean shoot the titans that practiced for like 18 days and then walked in and beat the hell out of the bills there's something to be said about being fresh i'm just gonna leave it there there's something to be said but you until you get all the coaches from the 60s out of there it ain't gonna matter that's true well uh as always great stuff jeremiah will continue to roll all the way through the playoffs yes we'll pop on some viking storylines some playoff talk and uh go forward and you actually got to not watch tape that made you sad so all right we'll catch you next week jeremiah absolutely see you guys

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