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Episode Date: November 6, 2024Matthew Coller talks about the Vikings staying put at the trade deadline. How good are they now without any additions? Should they have spent more draft capital for another player? Learn more about yo...ur ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey everybody, welcome into the Purple Insider trade deadline special in which we will talk about such moves that the Minnesota Vikings made as...
Well, they didn't actually make any moves.
So that will be the main topic of discussion for this late afternoon and I figured probably a good time to jump on live right after the
deadline ended so you guys can watch coverage of maybe another event that's going on today
in America. But no moves for the Vikings as we saw only a handful of moves around the NFL. I think
that probably the fact that there were a lot of trades in recent weeks leading up to the deadline
played a role in the deadline being less explosive than we thought. There were a couple notable NFC
North moves that I want to talk about. The Dallas Cowboys decided that they are all in on this
season, no matter how far they fall behind in the race and no matter how injured their quarterback is.
But that was really about it.
And Washington decided to make a big move in acquiring Marshawn Lattimore.
That was maybe the biggest of the entire day for them making an addition,
as they have also made a case as one of the best teams in the NFC around young quarterback Jaden Daniels. But for the Vikings, I think
if we're looking for an explanation for why they did not make a move after we had all those great
discussions and all those great ideas, it's probably a couple of reasons. I mean, number one,
they did not expect their left tackle to get injured for the season and have to use draft
capital to go out
and acquire Cam Robinson. So if you were thinking about, well, Hey, what's the, what's the big move
that they made? It's probably the fact that they went out and got a starting left tackle and use
some draft capital for that and also acquired Cam Akers. So even though it didn't happen today,
they did make two additions to this team that
could be part of it. And when you look at the draft capital that they have to use, they couldn't
really dip into much 2026 late round stuff because it's already spoken for with those two trades.
And as far as the 2025 draft, the first round pick would have been very valuable to them. And the two fifth
round picks may have not been enough for some teams, or they might've decided that it was too
much to ask for some teams. I also couldn't help but wonder if the first trade of the day
may have thrown things off a little bit, because one of the trends of this draft season had been
that the prices were dirt cheap. No inflation here, folks. Honestly, the trades around the
league had just not cost very much to bring in players, including Cam Robinson. I was surprised
when they were able to acquire Cam Robinson for so little, but Jonathan Mingo went for a fourth
round pick and maybe that caused some other teams to start asking for more for players that they
wanted to move on from. Another part of it might've been just that the teams that should
be doing the selling, some of them are not all that smart talking about maybe the Tennessee
Titans, for example, a team that should have been at least moving Sebastian Joseph day for
something.
And instead they decide to stick with it.
I never thought that Dexter Lawrence or Jeffrey Simmons were going to be
sold off.
But when you even think about the New York giants,
another team that should be selling,
well,
they've got people in their building that are trying to save jobs.
And even though they have moved the trade deadline back and back and back to help facilitate more
trades, there are still teams that are saying, we have to have a good second half of our season to
make sure that we don't get fired. And that is always the dynamic that is hard to factor in when we're talking about,
should the Vikings have made a trade?
Well, the other side of that might be a team saying, we can't give up this guy because
if we do, then we're talking about finishing the season two and 15 or whatever.
And I don't think that general managers who are on the hot seat are always thinking in
terms of, well, we've
got the long-term here. We've got to get more draft capital for 2026. They might be thinking,
if I give away these players, I'm not going to be here in 2026. Because I think when we evaluate
the Vikings not doing anything, we also have to do it through the prism of the entire NFL.
And there just weren't very many moves today. A handful of acquisitions from teams. Zedarius
Smith goes to the Detroit Lions as everyone expected. I guess they couldn't pull off my
move, which was to try to trade for Zedarius Smith to take them away from the Detroit Lions.
That was my idea. But I guess the Vikings didn't do that.
So that's the big trade for today.
The Jonathan Mingo trade to Dallas.
That's a player that Carolina had had absolutely enough of after drafting him
just last year and not somebody that the Vikings would have gone after.
Even look at the new England Patriots.
They had been sitting KJ Osborne and not playing him, and they still didn't trade him away.
I don't understand this logic of why you wouldn't just give him for anything, literally anything,
conditional seven, three years from now, because they're not going to keep KJ Osborne into
the future.
But whatever it is, the sellers stopped selling when we arrived at the
trade deadline. A lot of the players go through anybody's list, go through my list, go through
Alec Lewis's list, go through anybody who made the, who should the Vikings trade for list.
Look at all those players. 99% of them did not get moved at this deadline. So it may have just been that the teams that we expected to be giving away everything left
and right, and honestly doing the right thing for their teams.
And this, this was what I didn't see coming.
I thought that we had reached a point in the NFL where football teams were approaching the deadline similar to
hockey and baseball and basketball, where if you ain't going to use it, let somebody else have it.
We see this in the NHL all the time. They get to the trade deadline. A guy's going to be an
unrestricted free agent. So the team will just go, whatever. We'll just call somebody up from
the AHL. We'll get a mid round draft pick, go have that guy for a couple months. Best of luck to you.
It just doesn't work that way in the NFL outside of a handful of situations. Go through the
unrestricted free agents for next year. Almost none of them got moved. I don't know why. I don't know why the New England
Patriots would not be looking to deal off four or five players. They dealt off Josh Uche to the
Kansas City Chiefs a couple of weeks ago. And that's what I mean about it's been a slow trickle
of a deadline. If all these things happened at the deadline with DeAndre Hopkins,
Devontae Adams, if they all happened today, and even Cam Akers and Cam Robinson,
if it all happened today, we would be talking about what an eventful deadline it was.
So that's maybe changed a little bit of our perception of this as well. But I also think
that it comes down to no surprise that some of the franchises that
have one or two wins are not good at this.
Credit to the New Orleans Saints for moving Marshawn Lattimore.
That's a player who's been with them for a long time.
I don't know if contract-wise the Vikings could have been able to take on someone like
Marshawn Lattimore.
That's another thing that has to be considered here too, is that
in the NFL, one of the things that makes it harder is you can't just trade for dudes. You have to
stay underneath the salary cap while you're doing it. So it often includes these trades. Hey, you've
got to take this much salary for this to work. Okay. We want more draft capital. Then if we're taking this salary,
there's just more moving parts to this, but I still cannot really wrap my head around
some teams not wanting to part ways with their players that are not going to help them really
that much right now or into the future. It's just not going to happen. And Joey points out that even Marshawn Lattimore,
the price to get him was a bunch of draft picks the Vikings don't have. The Washington team that
has been tanking for like a decade, they have draft capital stacked up to be able to make some
moves. But I think that the main cause was not the Vikings not trying so much as it was
other teams not selling. And the evidence is they didn't sell them to anybody else.
I don't know if there was any move around the league that you look at. And if you've got one,
let me know from today where you go, Hey, why didn't the Vikings get that guy? All the names.
I mean, we thought the Raiders
might move people. I love the idea of getting Adam Butler. Who's a hulking nose tackle to pair
with Harrison Phillips and create more of a rotation. He didn't get traded. The Raiders
didn't move on from anybody. Someone explain it to me. Like I'm five, why the Raiders wouldn't
be trading people, but they weren't, they didn't. And there
were almost no teams that were in the bottom barrel of this league who were just selling off
parts credit to Carolina for doing it. But there aren't too many others that were actually doing
that today. So I thought of course, just like many of you, that the Vikings could use another defensive tackle.
By the way, some of you talk about Harrison Phillips.
He played the best game of the season, I thought, against Indianapolis.
So I think that he's having a pretty decent season this year and he's a valuable player for them.
But I thought that one of the reasons was that he only played 31 snaps.
Having a rotation is really helpful
for that defensive tackle position but if the Tennessee Titans are not going to move
someone like Sebastian Joseph Day what are you supposed to do uh Cody says we could have got
JC Horn no you couldn't have clearly not clearly not the, that they didn't trade JC horn to anybody.
They are keeping their talent.
Tennessee didn't trade Jeffrey Simmons to anybody.
There's no move that you can find where you say, oh, well, they traded X player to Y team.
And the Viking should have done that trade for that guy at that price.
If you've got one, tell me. But teams just didn't trade players.
And I don't know what I'm supposed to do with that.
I'm very surprised by it.
And I thought that the Vikings really could have used defensive tackle.
I thought they really could have used another cornerback,
somebody who could help them with, again, more of a rotation,
someone they could put in to play a little bit more man coverage
when they have to. I thought they did a little bit more man coverage when they have
to. I thought they did a little more rotating the other day with the corners, but still there wasn't
a corner traded outside of Lattimore. So it isn't like there were a bunch of corners available and
the Vikings just didn't pony up and make the move. I mean, aside from that, yeah, Trey White got traded. I don't know
when the last time Trey White was good. And the Rams are in the mix, but they're a team that
clearly had no use for Tredavious White and he's had all those injuries. So I don't know if that's
something the Vikings even would have considered versus the guys that they have as their
backups. And that's another part of it too, is that if you're going to make a trade, then you
have to acquire somebody who's better than the players that you have at your backup positions,
or it's just a waste of time. So there's a, there's a level to this, right? So the players
that they have as their backups are guys like at the defensive tackle position, Taki Taimani's a level to this, right? So the players that they have as their backups are guys like at the defensive tackle position,
Taki Taimani's a little banged up, but he's in there.
You also have Jalen Redman, who's been a nice rotational player that I could see playing
a little bit more as we go forward, made the team out of camp.
We haven't seen Levi Drake Rodriguez yet, but that's kind of your backup defensive tackle
group.
If there was someone available like a Sebastian Joseph Day or, of course, the star names, but they weren't.
They just weren't made available at the bargain bin type of prices that I expected to happen.
I really thought that we had moved past this as a league being stubborn.
But the other thing is, too, that you have to consider some owners how about jerry jones making a trade for a bust wide receiver
for a fairly significant draft pick for what reason with his quarterback out i think that
there's owners around the league mark davis may have been one of them robert craft may have been
one of them i mean robert craft may have seen the Patriots play some competitive football lately and said, you know what, actually
let's stay on this path. Let's not sell off everything and see if we could do something
magical and get back in this race with Drake May. I think that owners sometimes think that way.
And again, if, if the whole league had been fire sailing and there was a yard sale
and the Vikings just walked by the yard sale and went, ah, forget about it, then I would have a lot
more criticism of this because I thought they needed some additions to really solidify this
team. But the fact that nobody else did it, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to tell them to do if those teams were
not actually really selling at prices that the Vikings had enough draft capital to afford.
I mean, it's kind of clear from the trades for Cam Akers and Cam Robinson that the Vikings did
not want to trade away their 2025 draft capital. what little they have. And they'll get some comp
picks that are thrown in, I'm sure as well to that amount of picks, but they have the first,
they have the two fifths and they might not have wanted to, or they may have felt that those fifths
were too valuable for some of the things that the, that other teams wanted. So we will hear from Kevin O'Connell tomorrow and we'll see what he has to say.
I don't know if Kweisi Adafo-Mensa will say anything about this or have a press conference
to talk about acquiring Akers, Robinson, or anything like that.
But it just seems like the teams that are at the bottom are at the bottom for a reason
because they consistently make very bad decisions.
And if they're making bad decisions by not selling, I'm not sure how the Vikings were
supposed to be buying if it was either not for sale or if it was too pricey. And just to stick
with the yard sale comparison, I'm sure we've all done this, right? You see a yard sale, you go by and you go,
oh, okay, I'll stop it.
Maybe this person's got some interesting stuff.
And then you pick up a stuffed bear and you go,
$11 for a stuffed bear that you bought in 1992?
No, I don't think so.
I think I'm good.
The Vikings may have run into that situation.
But even to circle back
to the point about the players you acquire have to be better than what you have on your bench.
Think about the cornerback position for the Vikings. It is shaky. I think the three starters
overall have done a very good job. This defense is still one of the best in the league and were great when it came to the other night
against the Indianapolis Colts.
Just a phenomenal defensive performance,
and the corners did a good job.
I was just watching the all-22 back
and the interception Byron Murphy had.
He ran the route for the receiver,
jumped in front of it.
I mean, these guys have made plays.
They've picked the ball off, and overall, the Vikings are doing a good job against the posing
teams passing games, except for Jared Goff and Matthew Stafford. But aside from that,
they've had a really good season. When you look at the backup corners, it's a Caleb Evans. It's
Fabian Morrow. Morrow has been in the league for a very long time and he's been an average player.
And Caleb Evans for three quarters of last season was maybe a little below average player,
but serviceable for not at the end of the year, of course, but for two thirds of the
season last year, you have to be able to buy someone who's better than that. Once the New York Jets won against the
Houston Texans, they weren't going to sell DJ Reed to you. And if they were, they were probably
going to want a little bit too much. So I guess I am a bit surprised that the NFL didn't move more
players. In that case, if I knew they weren't going to sell as much as they didn't,
then I would have figured the Vikings wouldn't be involved. And we also have to consider that
Cam Akers and Cam Robinson are two trade deadline deals. They just didn't happen today. Maybe the
Vikings would have given higher prices for a defensive tackle or for a corner if they hadn't
had to scramble and replace their starting
left tackle and Robinson did a good job and that's the other thing we need to mention too
is just overall when it comes to the two players that they traded for huge contributors in a win
against Indianapolis already and these two guys could play huge roles so we could say oh they
didn't do anything at
the deadline, but well, we're going to see a lot of cam acres and we're certainly going to see a
lot of cam Robinson and cam Robinson may have saved the offense for the rest of the season.
So those are deals that will make a big difference. They're just not quite that one
extra piece to the defense that we were expecting. There is another part of this too,
that maybe they felt like as well as Dallas Turner played the other night,
that's kind of an addition to the defense as they go forward and rotate him in
more often.
They might feel that someone like Jalen Redman can play more and that could be
a addition to the defense and that they didn't necessarily have to
go out and make a move as far as excitement, as far as hype energy. No, it's not the day
that I thought that it might be for the Minnesota Vikings. I certainly woke up wondering,
is, is Quasey going to do some wild today? Is Kweisi going to send off that first round pick and bring somebody big back?
But I don't believe that during this entire draft season, again, correct me if I'm wrong,
I don't believe that there was a first round draft pick that was traded anywhere in the
entire draft season.
So that's another thing that is just not really happening uh in the nfl and cody mentions on the
offensive line as far as the center position which center got traded today though i mean that's the
thing who's trading their starting center that's going to be an upgrade on garrett bradbury and
the other thing is too it's just let me mention again I brought this up last night, the play that Garrett Bradbury got steamrolled, he got tripped by his own teammate. Ed Ingram did not get out on the protection that was being shifted to the right side and he stepped on his foot and that's what happened. I don't know that they showed that on the broadcast, but the all 22 shows that very clearly. I think Bradbury was a difference maker in the run game the other night
and has been for years, and he is a really good leader, and he's always going to struggle against
bigger defensive tackles. That's not a huge, huge issue to me. The right guard situation is a little
bit more, but they have Dalton Reisner who they can bring in. I think that we've often just been
in so much of a mode of just
yelling offensive line that we're not giving this offensive line enough credit for being good this
year. They've been a good offensive line this year. They're not Detroit and they're not the
93 Dallas Cowboys, but certainly have given enough time to Sam Darnold to throw the ball.
And we know he holds onto the ball too long. Uh, and they have been
effective in the run blocking. The Vikings are a pretty solid run team overall in terms of yards
per carry. Um, so I don't know that there was another offensive line move to be made that would
have been an upgrade on what they have or on rise there. Once again, it has to be the next guy down has to be worse. And Dalton Reisner is a fairly high bar to meet for trading for an offensive lineman.
He's a guy who started a lot of games and up north says would have Lattimore would have
been the best one.
They didn't have the draft capital to trade for Lattimore.
If he went for a third, fourth and sixth, they just didn't have that to be able to give
away.
Of course, Lattimore would have been good.
But as far as have it, you have to have the draft capital.
So the things that were required for the Vikings to make a big move today, those things were
not met.
You have to have the right draft capital that other teams are going to want.
The Vikings were short on that.
And you also have to have teams that going to want. The Vikings were short on that. And you also have to have
teams that were actually selling and the sellers, I don't know, didn't pick up their phones today.
We're busy voting. I truly do not understand some of these franchises. Guys, I'll see a lot
of criticisms about the Vikings. And of course, that's what I do here as well. But when
you look at the way that some of these franchises around the NFL are run, look at some of the two
and seven teams, it blows your mind. How many bad teams are out there? How about Indy? Shouldn't
Indy be selling? That team's bad. I didn't think that that team was any good. They're not selling. Bizarre. I think it was bizarre.
Other teams in other leagues are just better at figuring out when they're beat and looking
on to the future.
But that is something that still is not entirely happening in the NFL as we saw today.
So that's probably the reason, or at least makes a lot of sense to me as the reason the
Vikings didn't make a trade is just the prices suddenly went up at the end or teams were
trying to squeeze enough out or owners at the last minute said, we want to stay in this
race.
We don't want to bail.
And some of the teams that might've been the biggest sellers, they won, they decided to
stay in the race.
I mean, even think of
a team like Arizona. If Arizona had lost to Chicago, maybe they're moving somebody, but
they win. So now they feel good about themselves. They're not making those moves and we carry on.
So I got two more things to talk about as far as moves go, or I guess three that were big moves today that could have some impact
on the Vikings. And the biggest one, of course, was Z'Darrius Smith going to the Detroit Lions.
Z'Darrius Smith has been banged up throughout his career. He was when he was a Viking,
but he's real good. And the Detroit Lions, we knew that they were not going to do nothing, that the lions were going to find a way to get a pass rusher somehow. And they did that with
Zedarius Smith. That's not a great thing for the Vikings. These two teams will play each other late
in the year. And I guess the best the Vikings can hope for is that Zedarius is banged up by then,
but I think we all know and have a lot of respect for how talented Zedarius Smith is
as a pass rusher. So that's a huge move for the Detroit Lions to solidify their defense.
And honestly, their defense has been pretty good overall this season. Aiden Hutchinson was a huge
reason he's not Aiden Hutchinson, but he is at least even in the family of very, very good pass rushers in the NFL.
So that was a solid move by the Detroit lions to be able to pick up Zedaria Smith and a team
when they're all in and they're looking at potentially having a chance to go race for
a Superbowl. That's the type of move that you make. So, um, you know,
maybe the, I always thought it would be funny. Uh, no, is it Aries Smith is not whatever. And
I mean, he is a really, really excellent player. I mean, we don't have to, some people, every time
I bring up the lions, you just get real mad, but the dairy Smith was an absolute beast and you know
it. Uh, yeah. Uh, Ron, I was also wondering about Delvin Tomlinson. That's another
guy. I don't understand why Cleveland wouldn't move, but maybe there's contract stuff that makes
that hard for him or Denzel Ward or any of the names from Cleveland. I look at Cleveland as
another one of these clown show teams, though. Is there any worse franchise in all of professional
sports than the Cleveland Browns. And they're sitting there
holding onto stuff. What? Why? Just some senseless stuff today from other teams. If I'm doing the
Cleveland Browns post-trade deadline thing, I'm going, the only player you move was Z'Darrius
Smith. What is it that you think you're doing here? Is Jameis Winston going to bring you back to the playoffs?
What is going on?
So I don't really understand it.
I'm sure lots of phone calls were made, but not a whole lot of moves end up being made.
The one that was very interesting is in Green Bay, where they move Preston Smith to the
Pittsburgh Steelers.
And also the Steelers acquire Mike Williams as well
so that's funny K-Mac says Z'Darrius Smith doesn't scare me week 18 now that may be true but I would
direct you and I know it's a little while ago to the end of the season in 2019 where Z'Darrius
Smith completely annihilated an entire Minnesota Vikings team.
I just wouldn't shortchange one of the better players in the league
over the last five to seven years.
But anyway, just when it comes to the Packers, though, moving Preston Smith,
he's a guy that's given the Vikings a lot of problems over the years.
And I'm curious, I haven't read the reason why they decided to move Preston Smith
and why they acted seemingly with a little bit more of a long-term view than all of these clown
teams that did not. That's what was odd to me is, okay, you're not going to keep Preston Smith
long-term. I understand why you'd be moving him to use Lucas Van Ness more.
He was their top draft pick.
Hey, imagine a defensive player who develops over a couple years.
I don't know if they've been patient over there or not,
but when it comes to Preston Smith,
that's a guy that the Vikings don't want to see.
And to not have him on the Green Bay Packers is, I think,
a bonus for the Vikings of
trade deadline day that he ends up being moved. And it may have been a demand from Preston Smith.
And they said, Hey, let's get something for you. Uh, maybe after losing to the lions,
they felt like, okay, we're a good team, but, uh, we're still too flawed to really make an
argument for being a super Bowl team. So we
should think long-term. It also could be that the Packers don't have owners and they know what they
can move on from and what they can't. That could be another part of it. James says the Browns
released Quentin Jefferson. Is he an option? Could be. Yeah, he's Jefferson. What also could be yeah he's Jefferson what also could be as far as moving Preston Smith that you
get to carry over your salary cap I really don't I really don't know I really don't know I maybe
he had just lost his job he's a guy that has given the Vikings lots of problems but sometimes guys
get hurt they fall off they lose their jobs if I the Packers, I don't know if I would have
done that move, but it is a bonus for the Vikings. When it comes to Quinton Jefferson, yeah, he's
been that type of guy for years as that rotational type of rusher, and he might be an option.
The Vikings did make moves today, by the way. They had to bring back John Parker Romo,
who actually kicked really well in the off season, but was not
on the same level of Will Reichard and they let him go. And they also signed a long snapper as
well. So we'll, we'll do a bigger breakdown of that some other time of the new long snapper,
maybe after I get a chance to talk with him, but and then Marshawn Lattimore going to Washington
is a great move for Washington.
They're in a position where they need secondary, but they're a highly competitive team.
They made a lot of moves this off season to majorly upgrade that roster. They've got a great
young quarterback. You could spend a little draft capital. And the reason junk buster that the
Vikings couldn't get Lattimore is they didn't have the draft capital to match what Washington traded for him.
They just didn't.
Third, fourth, and a sixth, the Vikings don't have those things.
And I don't think that two-fifths adds up to a third, fourth, and a sixth.
They gave up a good amount, but they've got a ton of draft capital to do it, and the Vikings just aren't in that spot. So now Washington to me looks like a pretty
serious and legitimate contender with the emerging star young quarterback of this recent draft class,
good coaching, complete roster. And I think what we should do is talk about now that the trade
deadline is over and I'll get to some of your guys' comments. I'll scroll back up and get to
some of your comments here. I think what we should do though, is compare now teams
in the NFC. We know what the Vikings are going to be. We've got a big sample size and we know
that they're not adding anything more other than Cam Robinson and Cam Akers. It's very clear they're
behind the Detroit Lions. Everybody is, Everybody might be in the entire league.
Kansas City keeps winning one-score games,
and I think they will continue to do that.
But Detroit hasn't even needed a lot of one-score games
as good as they have been recently,
so Detroit is the best team in the NFC.
But after that, if you're making the comparison,
the Vikings' only two losses are by a total of 12 points to two quarterbacks that have been to the Super Bowl, and they just dismantled largely the Indianapolis Colts.
If you look at any of the stats that are not the final score, it was a dismantling yardage, the number of plays, the number of first downs, the success rate of their plays,
the expected points added of their play, all those things. They were a way, way better football team
than the Colts. The upcoming schedule matters to this as well for the Vikings. The previous wins
that they have still matter and how closely they played Detroit. Very, very close argument between them and Washington. I think
the Vikings have a better defense than Washington and at least a quarterback with more experience.
Darnold may not be proven over full seasons as being this good, although
his sample size of good play is growing. If you go back to 2022, his quarterback rating is over a hundred now since 2022. So
there's even that little extended sample size of Darnold playing well. You'd have to give a little
bit of the edge there. The Vikings with a little bit better playmakers, a little bit better
running backs. The offensive line for Washington's quite good. They're probably neck and neck,
right? Philadelphia, I'm not really sure what to do with.
They've won three in a row and they just beat Jacksonville.
Saquon Barkley is jumping backward over people,
but I don't trust Nick Sirianni to keep that train going.
Their offensive line has been good though.
Still, even after losing Jason Kelsey kelsey this last year their offensive
line is still cooking their defense is pretty flawed but the eagles they blew that game against
atlanta if they hadn't done that they've got an argument for being right there probably another
neck and neck team with the vikings not perfect i don't think they made any moves today either by
the way they're not perfect they're pretty good they're talented but they've got some flaws as well and they've got some questions as well I
think there's that second tier so it's Lions and then it's Washington Vikings and Philadelphia
right there together I'm not sure whether to put Green Bay there because I just don't know if Green Bay
is going to have their quarterback healthy for the rest of the season, or if he's going to be
dragging around his legs and not playing at the same level that he was able to play at last year.
Green Bay probably belongs one notch down from that second tier. And then you have the whole
NFC West. I think I would give the most credit maybe
to the Cardinals, but the Rams, as you saw, are still a good team if they get their receivers back
and Puka Nakua continues to play and doesn't get thrown out of a game. I'm sure some of you said,
why couldn't he get thrown out of the game against the Vikings? They probably would have won that one,
but Seattle is still capable of being decent. I think Chicago has fallen out of the conversation.
So the Vikings remain a high second tier team, but the first tier is only one team. That's how
I look at it. I don't know if there's any trade of a veteran journeyman defensive tackle or a
cornerback that another team was willing to discard that would
have moved me from that. Uh, they would have had to have made a really big move in order to do that.
Um, and those moves were just not out there today. Those were made, uh, earlier. So, um,
your reaction, your thoughts, continue the comments here about the Vikings not doing anything at the trade deadline.
Let's see.
Cody says we can't get a new right guard or a better center.
Really?
I assume the really is like a really?
The better right guard is on the bench.
Ed Ingram graded fairly well with pass blocking the other night.
I did mention that he tripped his own center.
There was also on the trick play, in space,
he might be the worst guard in the league in space.
On the trick play, he's one block away from busting that thing
for 20 more yards and just gets too far out ahead, doesn't see it,
and it ends up being just barely a first down.
But they do have another guy, and that's the whole point.
As far as centers, you've got to tell me who.
Who would you have traded for?
How would you have upgraded?
How do you implement a center into an offense
when it is such an IQ position, it's such a knowledge position?
I think that Garrett Bradbury is fine at that position. I don't think he's an
above average pass blocker or ever will be, but I also think that he has not been a negative,
net negative, because he's been a good run blocker for this offense. I just don't know
that there was opportunity to do something else at the offensive line position. And I didn't see any offensive linemen moved.
Let's see.
Blowfish says, I hope they at least made loads of calls
because they are very much behind the top teams in the NFL.
I feel they treaded water today, whereas other teams got better.
Which other teams got a lot better?
I mean, Washington's move for Lattimore,
that wasn't one that the Vikings could have matched.
But as far as what other teams got
better today, there were, I mean, Detroit got better with Zedaria Smith. That move had been
in the works for weeks and Pittsburgh can clearly say that Pittsburgh got better.
And would I have traded for Zedaria Smith to keep them away from the Lions? Yes,
but they were going to do something there there had to there has to be a
move there has to be a player that you can point to to show me this guy moved and the vikings should
have done it for that guy because if everybody didn't buy any of these players or none of these
teams were able to sell these players that's what makes the argument so hard of, well, they should have done something. They
should have done something. And as far as being very much behind the other great teams in the
league, I just don't see that. I just don't see that. They've had one of the most difficult
schedules in the entire NFL so far, and they're six and two. I mean, can we look at point
differential? Can I get it up on my app here in front of me?
I try not to Google things during the show
because I don't want to hurt the internet connection.
Let me see.
Can we get point differential?
Where are the Vikings right now after the other night?
Let's take a look.
In the NFC, point differential.
We've got Washington at plus 74, Detroit at 110,
and the Vikings at 59.
Those are your top three in terms of point differential right now
in the entire conference. They're ahead of Philadelphia. They're ahead of San Francisco.
Gosh, the NFC West is weird where San Francisco actually has the best point differential there.
They're ahead of green Bay. They're ahead of Chicago. They're ahead of Tampa Bay. They're
ahead of Atlanta. I mean, if that's a good metric for
you, I think it is. DVOA is another one that people like to use, and the Vikings are up at
the top of the league in that one as well, because that factors opponent strength. So I don't look at
it as, well, when you say the top teams are far ahead of them, okay, Kansas City has the best
quarterback alive. I don't know what to do about that. Uh,
then Buffalo has the second best quarterback alive. Okay. Those teams belong. Uh, the third
best quarterback alive, if not second is Lamar Jackson. He might be the best. Those, those three
teams are untouchable to teams like the Vikings because they just have the all-time great
quarterbacks of the era. You're not going to get into their ballpark.
But in your own conference, you have played the Lions to a two-point game
where if you convert one more first down, you win the game
against the Detroit Lions.
And that's one of the two losses.
The other one's on Thursday night football.
You've played dominant games otherwise.
I have a tough time saying that there are so many
teams ahead of them i i'm and i have a tough time saying that one more move would have put them over
the top i think it would have solidified those positions if those moves were there to be made
but they just weren't they just turned out i I was wrong. I thought they would be.
I thought they would be going into the trade deadline. I thought it was going to be a bonanza and that every team was throwing their
junk out on the lawn and saying,
pick through it and take what you need.
And I thought the Vikings would be right there to give up a fifth,
give up a,
you know,
whatever next year's conditional or something, seventh round,
what do they got left for conditionals? They just, that opportunity never arose.
Steve says, I wonder if the value for rental players is still being figured out since it's
a relatively new concept in the NFL by make some teams more hesitant. Yeah. I think a lot of those
trades, those rental type of trades and those, you know,
we're getting rid of guy X. They just happened before the deadline. When we got to the final day,
maybe all the guys that were going to go already went that, that could be,
that could be part of it. Uh, Trey white, Jake brings up Trey white. Uh, Preston Smith,
of course was never getting traded to the Vikings, but, um, Trey white, it does Trey white have anything left? I mean, that that's my point
about Fabian Morrow and Caleb Evans. These are not star players, but they are guys who I think
I would take over whatever's left of Trey white right now. That seems like an emergency type of thing. Joey says it's crazy to see teams
like the Panthers and Titans that think they're going to be competitive soon. Well, the Panthers
made the best trade of the day moving on from Jonathan Mingo. And as far as JC Horn, he's pretty
young. I could see why they would want to just extend him in the off season
and not trade him. And I don't know if the Vikings were ever willing to give up a pick for somebody
who does have a bit of an injury history. I still like that idea, but that would have been a hard
deal maybe to pull off, but the Panthers not moving Jadavion Clowney. That was another idea
that popped into my head. I'm not sure what he's doing for them. And then the Titans,
I just don't understand at all, at all. I mean, Titans have to be, I mean, I guess when we rank
the worst franchises in football, nobody can top the Cleveland Browns. They are the worst franchise
in football. The Jets got to be fairly close, but where are the Titans in this list? The team that gave away Derrick Henry and AJ Brown.
I mean, that it's, that's a, that's a pretty rough team right there. So I guess they must be looking
at it. Like they think they can turn it around. This is the team that went out and signed a bunch
of guys. They signed Tony Pollard. They signed Kelvin Ridley. They brought in a bunch
of talent like they were going to be good and not even close. When we talk about franchise
competence, sometimes I see in the comments section, oh, this team is incompetent. They
don't know what they're doing. Like, whoa, look around. Look around at the Tennessee Titans.
But that's a player, Sebastian Joseph Day, that the Vikings would have had some familiarity with. I think he had been with the
Rams and what are you keeping him for? If you're Tennessee, my, my annoyance today at the trade
deadline is directed at the silliness of teams holding onto players. They didn't need, uh, Mike
says, uh, did suddenly needing a kicker and long snapper
affect the moves? I don't think so. Because those are just two positions that they were going to go
out and sign. Those weren't two positions where they had to get rid of everything or anything
at all. They just put those guys on IR, so it created the roster positions. Wouldn't have made
any impact there at all. So I don't think so. My guess is just that when they went to the market
today, probably feeling like, all right, well, there's got to be some moves to be made here,
some acquisitions to solidify some positions. And then these teams just said,
we're not giving away our players for nothing. And also all these things go through ownership
and there may be some ownerships that still think that their teams can get back in it
when they actually have no chance. Dennis says, Andrew Booth is available. I know he was waved
by the Cowboys today. Definitely his fault of their defense is that bad.
But yeah, Andrew Booth is just not worked out.
Didn't work out here, didn't work out there.
And that's another thing about the Vikings.
It's not like we've seen the players they've moved on from
exactly thriving elsewhere.
Blowfish says, I still think Delvin Tomlinson would have been available. Obviously
not because he's a good player and somebody would have wanted to get him. There's contract
considerations when it comes to all this stuff. And maybe they would have been asking them to
keep some of the salary and they didn't want to keep some of the salary. The Jags were willing
to do that. The Jags gave away Cam Robinson for basically nothing to the Vikings and kept some
salary. That might've been something that they wanted in a deal for someone like Delvin Tomlinson.
And it just, just didn't, didn't work out. Uh, Dak says, uh, I get trying to build a perfect
team, but you will never have top three guys at every position.
Some guys need to be okay to decent.
Uh, well, I've always believed this too.
I've always believed that, uh, that you're only as good as your weaknesses.
And as we look over the roster, I think we know what those are.
They are not going to have great interior pressure.
I still thought the other night that Indianapolis
blocked them up pretty good, and it took a while to create pressure. They had a couple of free
runners at Flacco, but for the most part, he had time to throw, and that was still concerning. He
was just bad, but he had some time to throw back there, and the coverage gives up those underneath
routes into the middle. They still did that against Indianapolis. And there were several bend don't break type of drives. But I also don't think that there is a such thing in the NFL
as a flawless defense. And I don't think that there was anybody they could have brought in
to make them flawless. I would have liked to have seen them get an extra corner. I would have liked
to have seen them get a pass rushing defensive tackle.
Nobody that meets that criteria got traded today.
Clearly, there just wasn't enough guys available,
or the prices were not what the Vikings either could match or wanted to match
because they're keeping some draft capital for the future.
Maybe they said, we're not moving 20-25 picks,
and that was part of a breaking point of some sort of deal. But as far as the overall defense,
does it give you a chance to win? It does. It's going to have its weaknesses. Those will show up
again at times, I'm sure throughout the season when they play good offenses like Arizona,
Seattle, Atlanta, the Packers, the Lions, their weaknesses are going to
show up. They have to outscore teams on offense and now they have a complete offense to be able
to do it. But I think if you go through every roster of those teams that are not the Lions,
there's always those things that are on the roster that we're going to call weaknesses.
Every team has them.
Every team is going to have some imperfections, and the Vikings clearly do.
But I don't think that that means, well, it's over, they can't contend, and so forth.
I really don't think that not making a move for one more player today would have really
changed that.
Now, if they had left the left tackle position without acquiring somebody,
then that could have significantly impacted the outlook of the season.
But the fact that they got Robinson allowed them to stay on this track
to still be a competitive team.
Junkbuster says, do you believe Dallas Turner will get more playing time?
I think it'll probably be around what he got the other night. Uh, and he only interestingly
out of his 26 snaps, he only was rushing the passer on 11 of them. And he also dropped in
coverage on six of them, which might give you a bit of a hint. And I was talking with, uh,
Kevin Seifert the other day in the media room about Dallas Turner. And I think this is an interesting thought that he had,
which was it's possible that he is viewed as being the Andrew Van Ginkle type of player
that can play a bunch of different spots and brings a ton of value that way long-term and
not just an edge rusher who comes off the edge and tries to get 10 sacks. And even the way that
Flores has talked about sacks, he said today something about, Hey, you play a thousand snaps
and you get 10 sacks. And that's what everybody looks at. He may just have a different vision
for Dallas Turner as more of a can drop
back at coverage, stop the run rush, like an all around outside linebacker type of player,
like a Dante Hightower, as opposed to just a pure edge rusher, which may limit the amount of snaps
that he could be on the field for because doing everything Van Ginkle is asked to do is really tough. But if he gets 20 to 25 snaps per game and he gets his chances to rush.
And the other night there's a play that kind of goes unnoticed because it's a short run,
but Turner grabs a guy and I'm going to include this in my film study in the newsletter, by the
way, purpleinsider.com go sign up. He grabs a guy, a pulling guard,
and throws him out of the way and makes a tackle on a run play. You see the strength that he has.
You see the quickness when he came as a free runner off the edge. He looked like a cornerback.
He got to the quarterback so quickly. There was also a play where he dropped back in zone coverage,
took away a route that Joe Flacco wanted to throw and he had to throw it out of bounds. So he did some very good things in this game as an all-around player.
But we might not just have enough room here on this roster at that position with Dan Ginkle,
Grenard, to be able to take on that role.
Like what Patrick Jones does might be a little bit different from what they envisioned for
Dallas Turner. But the overall big, big
picture, I do think that, uh, yes, um, Dallas Turner will continue to get playing time.
Uh, Joey says, I wonder what Kweisi's plan is because there are still quite a few holes in the
roster yet. We have such few draft picks. This year's free agency is kind of mediocre too,
aside from a few players. Well, you know, I agree with
that, that the free agency coming up for next year is not filled with a bunch of superstars.
When you look at who's under contract and who you have to build around, a lot of the most valuable
positions outside of corner are in pretty good shape. They will get Makai Blackman back next year, which will help, but
Grenard's going to be here. Cashman, Van Ginkle, Phillips, Metellus, maybe we'll see about Bynum.
We'll see about Smith, but they're going to have those core players. And then on the
offensive side, Jefferson, Addison, Hawkinson, Derrissaw, and presumably McCarthy, but maybe Darnold if they go deep in the playoffs.
So yeah, I mean, I think that the plan is probably going to be to try to fill in those spots and also
develop players. I mean, we're not counting any of the players that they may be able to develop,
a Gabriel Murphy, a Dwight McClothern, guys like that who aren't getting playing time now, Levi Drake
Rodriguez. But we've seen over the last couple of years that they can develop players into these
positions. I forgot Ivan Pace. He's under contract as well. So all that cap space, you don't have to
make these trades now, by the way, off season trades are also available. So if they go into
next year and there's a team that is looking to move a star player,
they might be willing to do that to, uh, next year.
Uh, let's see.
Crone.
Oh, so fi, I'm sorry if I mispronounced, uh, they are waving the white flag to the lions.
It's their year.
Well, you see, you know, I think about, uh, the all in Rams,
the never go full Rams, that, that whole thing, were they not the four C they were the four seed,
right? That year that they were able to go deep in the playoffs. Um, the way I look at the playoffs
is if you can be one of those top four seeds, you've got a chance. And if the number one seed is the Lions,
the Vikings have played the Lions many times and every single game seems to be very close
against the Detroit Lions. Even when Nick Mullins was their starting quarterback,
if you are going to Detroit in a playoff game with a chance to go to whatever the NFC championship,
I don't know how it would shake out. But if you're going to Detroit with a chance to go to the NFC championship,
you don't feel like that's a team that has just steamrolled you time and time again.
Every one of those games has come down to a driver to a player to, and if that's the position that
you're in, I definitely don't look at it like you're in a white flag type of position. I think
this was much more of the market that a lot of the players who are going to be moved
got moved already.
Just like Cam Robinson, they got moved already.
It was a slow burn type of trade deadline.
And then they today went looking for rentals likely, and then we're not able to find them. Uh, Zoomer Kev points out fourth
in DVOA for the Vikings as an overall team. So DVOA, uh, an analytic statistic that factors in
your, uh, the game situation and also factors in your opponent has the Vikings still as a top five
team. Uh, I, I certainly, I certainly would have certainly would have preferred to see the Vikings make an addition.
But aside from that, I don't know who it was that they were going to get that got moved.
And Steven says, have you not seen what the Steelers did today?
We just aren't buying.
But the Steelers bought a wide receiver and an edge rusher.
Those were two things the Vikings were not looking for. Tell me what defensive tackle, tell me what cornerback,
tell me what positions that they needed, which guys got moved that the Vikings could have had.
That's the problem I'm having. Like I said, leading up to this, you guys heard me. I said,
Hey, if there's a big swing, go take it.
Hey, if there's a rental corner, go get him.
If there's a rental defensive tackle, go get him.
Trade the fifth round pick if you had to.
Those guys just weren't moved today.
And they weren't moved to anybody.
And, you know, Allen says our GM is an idiot.
The team is six and two and top five by DVOA.
Your quarterback costs $10 million and has a top five quarterback rating in the league.
Your defense is ranked number one by DVOA. Who built this? God? Amazing. Why did they wait till the last minute?
They didn't. They made two trades last two weeks. Pay attention. What are we doing here?
And they filled key positions. They're allowing, did you see Cam Akers the other night? Did you
see Cam Robinson? They traded for him. They just didn't do it today. They needed a left tackle
desperately. They may have been willing to pay more for some other position if Christian Derrissaw
hadn't gotten hurt. And Aaron Jones needed a break. The other night was perfect, but he needed
a break. And they got Cam Akers, someone they could trust. I noticed the other night they had
Cam Akers on a play blocking interior to try to help
Ed Ingram and Garrett Bradbury.
That's the kind of toughness that Cam Akers brings because usually they only do that with
Aaron Jones or with especially CJ Hamm.
They got a good player to help them.
I do agree with this, Hunter, that the Panthers should have traded Adam Thielen.
I don't know what his health is, but I do agree with that.
They should have taken just about anything. The Panthers should have sold more. I mean,
Jadavion Clowney, Adam Thielen, I don't know why they wouldn't have sold a little bit more,
but it's remarkable to me to be talking about a disappointing trade deadline. It's disappointing
to me. There's 200 people watching right now. It would have been a thousand if they made a big trade, very disappointing. It was a lot of fun to
talk about. It would have been a heck of a lot of fun to be talking about. And I know that some of
you want distraction from politics today. That's what I'm here for. Oh, I would have done a four
hour podcast for you if they had made a bunch of trades. So that would have been a lot of
entertainment, but don't let your disappointment lose sight of the bigger picture that the football team
is six and two. When was the last time they were six and two? Was it 2022? But their point
differential was not like this. And before that, what, 2017, where they reeled off the four straight
wins? I mean, sometimes I think that there are people
who get so tunnel visioned into GM mode
that like, are we looking at the same season right now?
This is the quality of team
that I've been asking for forever.
How many times have I been saying on the show,
you know, they're just not really there.
They're just a middling team. There's not a real to real to that level of the contending teams. And this year by a lot
of the numbers, the point differential, the DVO, a, the things that tell us about team,
they are in that conversation for the best teams in the league. I wouldn't pick them for the Super
Bowl over Kansas city, Buffalo, Baltimore, Detroit.
But aside from that, do you think Atlanta's better?
Washington just got better, but maybe neck and neck.
I might pick Philly over them, but I don't know.
If they had to go to Philly, I would be concerned.
But it feels like a pretty good job to be six and two at the moment. I think that it just,
it just was a different market than we all expected.
And we are to blame as well,
myself and everybody else who writes articles.
Here's who the Vikings could trade for,
because I thought,
and I'm sure the athletic and ESPN and everybody else also thought,
yeah, there should be guys available.
Surprisingly, they weren't.
And I don't know why.
And I'll be very interested to see some insiders reporting on this.
If Adam Schefter or Ian Rappaport, let me know if someone has tweeted anything about this.
It's shocking that the number of horrific football
teams in the NFL we're not clearing cap space for the future we're not gaining any draft capital
they could get a hold of you mentioned Adam Thielen if he's healthy why is he still a Panther
the only thing I could think of maybe for them would be Bryce Young if they want to just give
him a chance because he's been playing the last couple
of weeks much better, that might be a thing. But I mean, Jadavion Clowney for them was the point.
What is Jadavion Clowney doing for them? There's a lot of those situations around the league
that I'm shrugging my shoulders at after today. Joey says, I have no clue what this team is going
to do at defensive tackle and corner. We need long-term solutions at those positions.
We aren't going to find those solutions in free agency.
The draft is a gamble.
Well, everything does and doesn't work, right?
I mean, it's hard to find star edge rushers in free agency, and they got Jonathan Grenard.
And we were saying, well, how are they going to fill for Daniil Hunter if they don't resign him?
And then they did. And as far as corner goes, I don't like the carousel of veterans either.
That may be a position they have to draft. It's pretty clear that in Brian Flores' defense,
he doesn't think of defensive tackle like I do about guys who could get to the quarterback.
It's much more about stuffing those gaps and not allowing opposing teams to
run.
If I did ask Brian Flores about this today,
I was kind of curious about defensive tackle and he was talking about how
when it comes to the defensive tackle position,
the fact that guys,
a lot of teams play the two deep puts more pressure on
them to stop the run. That may be a big part of it. So, uh, Peter says they will not be able to
stop the running game of top teams. Did we watch the, was the game the other night too late for you?
I mean, they just shut down Jonathan Taylor.
I don't, what are we talking about here?
This is a commitment to mediocrity, typical Minnesota sports franchise.
Why are we, what?
I don't, what?
I'm at a loss here.
I'm at a loss here.
They're six and two.
How many teams are, how many teams have six wins?
Let me call up the standings again. How How many teams have six wins? Let me call up the standings again.
How many teams even have six wins?
Let's see.
Detroit, Minnesota.
Green Bay has another loss.
Atlanta, Philly, Washington.
That's the NFC teams that have six.
So you are right there among the top teams in the NFC.
Not getting a backup corner for overpaying when none of them
were moved in the league is not a commitment to mediocrity. I, I don't know. I, are we just
saying things that we've always said because it feels good because you wanted to trade today.
That's kind of what it, that's kind of what it's like. I i i really think some of you just like moves more than uh you know anything
else uh let's see it's sideways says you could go all in at the trade deadline if you have a
rookie quarterback you know you can win with as for our uh system is as good as we believe jj
can be it hasn't been proven yet going all in too soon uh yeah so for me that the all-in type of thing the all-in type of thing
was um if they were going to get someone who could be part of the future right that was the thing
is if they could make a trade for jeffrey simmons who was unavailable and all the reporters said
not available don't call the The Titans are moving in.
Okay.
So not available at all.
If there was that move to be made, then okay, that's all in on now and later.
But there wasn't a move to be made there.
Trading a fifth for a fill-in corner, I don't think would have been an all-in type of move
it would rob them of a little additional capital that they could maybe use in trades later
or that they can draft developmental players later as far as the mccarthy thing you have to be
in on the mccarthy plan if that's what they're going to do, because I don't really see another way out of this. I don't see the ability to pay Sam Darnold and then be able to fill the rest of
the roster out. I do see the ability to have JJ McCarthy there in terms of long-term,, as far as this season, I don't see any significant harm of not getting an additional player
if they weren't going to be better than a Caleb Evans and Fabian Morrow.
I think that when we threw out all these names that did not get moved today, by the way,
tons of names of players who didn't get moved.
A guest the other day on the show mentioned Buda Baker,
but Arizona was not going to trade Buda Baker after they won.
That wasn't going to happen.
It really may have changed this last week.
The landscape of who was selling could have been it.
So if there weren't any players that were moved today
that would have made the Vikings better,
the only thing I could do is shrug my shoulders.
Let's see.
Tommy says, are we going to look into Quentin Jefferson?
They should.
Yeah, they should.
With Taki Taimani banged up,
and I don't know how hurt Taimani is,
but with him banged up and not being able to play,
I do think that they should look into a guy
who gets cut like that. I'm sure that he got
cut for a reason, but I also think that, uh, he might have at least a history as a fill-in type
of player. Um, I guess what, what I have to be a little bit cautious of, I think probably is
responding too much to the people who just like to yell about Minnesota sports and
don't really have a point. So maybe I need to be better at that. That's my post trade deadline.
What do they call it? What's the January? What's the thing everybody does in the new year,
your new year's resolution, post trade deadline resolution will be to try to avoid some of that discussion of when when you start bringing
up all minnesota sports just suck forever and we always do the wrong thing that's not really
a part of the discussion i think uh funny i shot you 99 can't believe quisi didn't trade for Patrick Mahomes. Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Let's see.
Mike says, sounds like there are a lot of people hurting in the world, bringing their mania into something that should be a simple pleasure in life.
Maybe that's it too.
Maybe that's it too.
Yeah, I think that we are all responsible for the hype of the trade deadline because
I thought that they were going to make a move because I thought other teams were going to
trade people away.
But here's the thing that I, that I really don't get is a random user here says this team is a long way away from being great.
I just, I'm not sure what the perspective is here.
Is this, are they, when you talk about great, are they the 49ers from 1988?
Like, no.
Are they the Dallas Cowboys, 1993? No, they are probably not as good as the 98
Vikings. Nope, definitely not. But the NFL today, the world that we live in with 32 football teams
is that there's no team in the NFL. We can go through them. I've got time. I'm going live early today.
I've got time.
We can go through all the teams and look at how they all have weaknesses.
If there was a way for the Vikings today to shore up any and all weaknesses
and to trade for Charles Haley or to sign Reggie White,
if they were able to do those things that teams didn't in the nineties,
how about, Hey, when the Cowboys went and got Dion Sanders, Whoa, if the Vikings could get
prime Dion Sanders today for two fifths, they probably would have done it. But the world that
we live in is that, and that's funny. They don't have a playoff quarterback. How do you know he
hasn't been in the playoffs yet? I guess we'll have to find out when he makes the playoffs.
But as far as just the parody of the league,
and when we go through and look at all these teams,
if you're in Kansas City right now,
are you thinking, well, we're untouchable?
You have the best quarterback in the league,
but they're still flawed.
They almost lost to Tampa Bay last night.
And if Tampa Bay goes for two, maybe they do. and they almost lost to the Raiders the week before and
how about Buffalo has to go out and get Amari Cooper but they're looking at their top draft
pick receiver going I don't know if he's that good and uh but Josh Allen's kind of doing everything
and their defense is still surviving but they're asking questions over there. Washington had to go give up a bunch of draft capital for a corner who used to be good.
But is Marshawn Lattimore a shutdown guy for them now?
I don't know.
Their defense is still pretty weak and they have a young quarterback.
Green Bay's got to be talking about how flawed they are with a quarterback who's banged up
and they're not perfect. they lost to the vikings
they lost to the lions so they're looking at their team with some question marks that's just
the nfl in 2024 and what you want to be going into the playoffs this is i've looked at this okay so
i have the answer here and now after after I tell you, then you have to
answer to me, could the Vikings be this 12 wins is usually the bar for a team to go to the Super
Bowl. Very few teams. Now it's been 11 in the past. It might be 12 now because there's 17 games,
but 11 to 12 games is the bar for teams to go to the Super Bowl. Very rarely do teams go to the Super Bowl if they have fewer than 11 wins.
So if you're 10, 9, 8, it's happened, but it doesn't happen that much.
The other one is a plus 100 point differential.
If you get to a plus 100 point differential or somewhere in that ballpark, 90 plus,
then you've got a pretty good chance.
And you have to be a top 10 team in terms
of passing expected points added. Very rarely do teams that are outside the top 10 end up going
deep into the playoffs. And one more I got for you, because I looked at this not too long ago
at what the average NFL team is that goes to the Superbowl. Usually teams that go to the Superbowl
hold their opponents under a 90
quarterback rating passing wise. And DVOA is a pretty good predictor as well of some of this
stuff, but that's across the board. Can the Vikings get to 12 wins? They can. There's a path
there. Is it going to happen for sure? I don't know, but there's a path there. Can they be a
defense that holds opposing quarterbacks under a 90 quarterback rating? They probably can. So far they've done that and the opposing quarterbacks
coming up, maybe not so impressive. Can they be a team that is top 10 in passing expected points
added? Well, right now they have the fourth highest rated quarterback in the league and they
just got their Pro Bowl tight end back. So I think that they can do that. They've got a chance here. And I don't
think by not adding one defensive tackle or one corner that they blew it. Had they added Jadavian
Clowney or had they added, I mean, DJ Reed would have been a pipe dream that would have given them
a better chance for sure. And it would have made them a better team. And if any of those teams had
been selling those guys and the Vikings didn't get them,
I would be losing my mind. I would be saying, well, why couldn't you make that same move?
But I can't find one of those today. I just can't find a move that anybody made
that I would have said, why didn't the Vikings make that move? And we've been talking for an
hour and no one has put one in the, in the chat that
the Vikings could have made Marshawn Lattimore. They didn't have the draft capital for that.
Not to match what, what Washington has because Washington's been losing forever.
So that, that I think is the, uh, the, the best thing, uh, stop, stop reading nonsense posts as
well. You got them. You're you gotta read some though you gotta read
some uh aaron says uh surprised the panthers dolphins raiders titans weren't selling more
calais campbell i forgot about calais campbell why what are the miami dolphins waiting for
why wouldn't they move calais campbell that's my whole point why wouldn't they move calais campbell that's my whole point why wouldn't they move calais
campbell i have no idea it's it's just a little bit befuddling today because i thought we were
going to have some more trades to move on to uh stop reading the nonsense posts is good matt but
i can't stop them forever man uh the other thing too is that there's some nonsense posts but there's
also some things that i don't agree with that a
lot of people are saying. So I try to address like when people are saying, oh, they're stuck
in mediocrity and stuff. And I go, well, let me show you the evidence of this six and two football
team does not point to mediocrity right now. Now, if they go down and lose the Jacksonville,
that argument goes out the window. But as of right now, as I always follow
the numbers, I don't think mediocrity is it. I think people just got used to saying mediocrity
with the Minnesota Vikings because that's been the case for a long time. Anyway, after year one,
I'm sure Kwesi is even more aware of making sure he gets value and must not have been out there today. Yeah, nobody made the trades.
That's really the thing is that nobody made these moves.
And I think that probably owners got involved,
general managers trying to protect their jobs.
And that's the thing that we can never really factor in.
Also the LOL factor.
So I know enough people in the league by now over the years it really really matters
to people inside nfl buildings what it looks like to the outside world you would be surprised
because they always tell you we don't care what they're saying outside this building. Oh, they do. You know why? Because owners watch TV. Owners have social media
and what no GM wants is to be the team that made the move where they just said,
what was that team doing? Right? No team wants to be the move. Dallas doesn't care.
Jerry's going to do what he wants and he runs the
team so he can do this, but no team, the dolphins, if they move Calais Campbell for a conditional
seventh in 2026, their local media, their fans, national media is going to say what they gave
away a good player for nothing. I think they're afraid of that. Also, if, if jobs are on the line,
then coordinators and coaches,
they don't want these guys to get moved. And you also have to sell it to the, uh, the rest of the
league. Uh, let's see. Okay. I saw an Adam Schefter thing and just thought, well, maybe they forgot
about a Vikings trade. They didn't, it was a safety signing with the 49ers. Um, so maybe there
is something else out there to be done if a player
like Quinton Jefferson, the defensive tackle could be had. I don't know, but it looks like
the Vikings are what they are. And as we go forward, they're going to have to prove by the
fact that they didn't make a move, that they are strong enough. And they're going to have to carry
on some of the things that they did the other night to mitigate the weaknesses that they are strong enough and they're going to have to carry on some of the things that they did
the other night to mitigate the weaknesses that they have and i certainly have questions just like
probably you guys do of can sam darnold protect the ball well enough to go deep in the playoffs
can the defense continue to live on takeaways which they kind of have in some ways, not the
other night, but some ways can, can the corners cover well enough to when they face great receivers,
be able to slow them down. Could they win a shootout in Detroit or with green Bay, which
they sort of did, but you know, can they do that again? Or with Washington, it's a great scoring
offense, great scoring offense. Uh, there's a long way long way to go and still a lot to find out about this team.
I just don't think that my opinion really changes of them today,
other than to think that because they weren't able to get a defensive tackle or corner,
that the margins are a little thinner than if they had.
And they still have some players who have experience as backups at corner.
And they still have some guys
that are rotating in and doing a decent job
like Jalen Redman or Taki Taimani
in defensive tackle,
but they need to rotate more
because they can't just have Harrison Phillips
out there all the time.
I think what we can say
about the Vikings on this deadline day
is that we know exactly what it's
going to take for them to get to that 12 wins and for them to go into the playoffs with a serious
chance for them to go on the road to Atlanta and win a game there and go to the divisional round
with a chance to get to the NFC championship. I think we know.
I think we know what things could go right and get them there. And I think we know what things could go wrong and have them not win 12 games
or have them not get deep into the playoffs.
Injuries is always one of them.
But the wrong matchup is a part of it as well.
They are a team that has enough talent to be in the conversation
and enough weaknesses
for something to take them apart and i'm not sure if there was a move to be made that was
going to change that today and that may have been part of the discussion for the vikings but as far
as looking at they're not getting players today and again they did acquire two players at the
trade deadline or in the last couple of weeks,
but in terms of not getting players today, we just now have the answer. We know exactly what
they are as a roster, who has to stay healthy, what has to go right. And we also know that an
injured kicker just screams game losing field goal. I'm kidding but but i'm kind of not like backup
long snapper the last time jeff overbaugh went the wrong way caused the minneapolis miracle look it
up if you don't know what i'm talking about uh zoomer kev says is the deadline still too early
i'd bet a lot of these teams are still delusional yeah let me look let me look let me use my trusty standings here again i mean there's there's some mediocre teams that had a good case that they can't win anything that
are going to keep trying new orleans lived in reality a little but they probably could have
moved more guys carolina same thing lived in reality a little the new york giants they're
trying to save bacon right they're trying to save their butts and the same with Dallas they're never going to give up New England I just don't get is New
England doing this because they've played better the last couple of weeks and they just want to
give Drake May every chance to win I that's got to be it right Miami make it make sense they must
think you I think your point is probably correct it's probably
correct at two and six miami maybe they think well you know if we reel off three or four wins
we're right back in it i bet that's it let's see joey says bad teams want unrealistic offers for
players that probably don't even want to be on the team anymore they must have been otherwise uh they would have
moved more guys than they did uh dave says uh no move by the vikings makes sense injuries happen
every week derisaw will the thrill at least a depth move uh well i mean just with derisaw
getting hurt that probably ended that probably ended any chance that they could have gone out and got a rental right there
uh anthony says i need another championship prediction i've got chiefs or bills lions or
or niners or for the nfc and afc championships yeah chiefs and bills lions and niners but do
you mean that the cowboys aren't going to the super bowl like was my preseason pick
it's become a bit at this point that I curse every team
that I think is going to make the Super Bowl.
I just thought that Dallas, everybody was talking about how bad they were going to be,
and I thought, I don't know, maybe they'll have a top offense again.
Totally wrong.
But as of right now, you still think the Niners,
well, they're getting McCaffrey back, and I would not count them out,
but their road to the Superbowl would be very hard if it came to, uh, if they, if they ended
up being more of a 500 type of team, Washington belongs in the discussion. It might be Washington.
I don't know. It's lions versus whoever. And that's not a guarantee. They could always
lose a game, but that, that would be the i might go i might go ravens versus bills maybe the chiefs keep messing around and
eventually find out that could be it uh dave says even any decent o-line guard could have helped
i need names who got moved nobody uh and i I just would like to see Reisner playing at right guard.
And I think that would solidify a lot of things.
Kib East.
We didn't have much left to give.
We need those picks.
I think six and two, no trading was the right call.
Fair enough.
At least this does give us a draft show.
Let's be honest.
You guys wanted a draft show in April.
So we'll have one for the first round,
but only the first round second night.
I'll just be chilling unless they do something.
Then day three,
we'll be on two conference calls.
Although I guess round three could be maybe the,
the comp pick,
I suppose for draft night,
Mike says,
I think this team has implemented change,
even if it's been a little slow during the season.
What happened to teams hitting their stride to play into the postseason?
This last week was really big, really, really big
when it comes to can they fix what ails them?
Indianapolis is not a good team, but they're also not a horrible team.
And the fact that the Vikings did all the things that they said they were going to do
leading into the game gave me much more confidence that they can be that 11 or 12 win team
when they reach the playoffs. The fact that they did deal with some of the easy answers that the
last two teams found against them. The fact that they did stop with some of the easy answers that the last two teams found against them.
The fact that they did stop the run against Jonathan Taylor was very impressive.
That was a really good running team, and that's a great running back.
As all Gopher fans know how good the Wisconsin running back is, but it's also a good offensive line, and they were able to stuff that it looked like they used a lot of three defensive tackles
in those gaps making sure that there weren't many opportunities for him to run up the middle
and so they did a good job fixing some of the run issues and then on offense the biggest thing for
me was I I felt like we're about to find out how self-aware Kevin O'Connell is, because if they keep getting these delay of games of false
starts and they don't change the play calls, how quick they're getting in and out of the huddle,
then I'm going to think there's always going to be a cap on the offense. Cause that stuff's
always going to happen. And the fact that they went into that mini buy and they got out of the
huddle quickly, they had none of those penalties instead of
putting three people in motion in a really weird formation. One guy was in motion and then they ran
the play and they let their playmakers beat the corners and the safeties of the Colts and they
succeeded. And Darnold, I'm not sure what more, I know the mistakes are going to happen, but I'm not
sure what more we can ask of Sam Darnold with a top five quarterback rating in the league. But Darnold, the thing about
Darnold is when we talk about, can this team win? Can it really win? He's always going to be a
question, but with, with Darnold, some of the throws he makes, they really even the scales.
Okay. He made a big mistake, but also he made a throw to
TJ Hawkinson. I didn't even realize this when it happened in the game where DeForest Buckner is in
his view and he drops down sidearm and whips it around him for a 19 yard gain to Hawkinson,
the throw down the sideline, the throw to Addison. He's running full speed back and he makes that
throw. These are arm talent plays that we haven't seen from a quarterback here.
Plays where it looks like the other team has done something to blow it up.
And then, I mean, when was the last time some of these throws were made in Minnesota?
Oh, nine.
I mean, Bradford had some sick ones.
Probably Bradford had some sick ones.
But aside from that, there hasn't been arm talent like this,
which I think does raise the potential ceiling for what this team could be because
you do have this explosive passing game. And if they could shore up some of the sacks for sure,
but they shored up the offense. I mean, coming out of that game, just felt a lot better about
the operation on both sides. And as you're talking about what they're going to be
when they get down the stretch,
to be able to fix those problems,
it gives them a better chance.
There's no guarantee.
I don't know what the season's going to bring.
The kicker just got hurt.
Who would have thought?
The long snapper got hurt, huh?
That's only the second time I've ever seen
the long snapper get hurt,
but sometimes stuff happens.
It just still seems like coming out of that game.
They are in a much better position that one game really had the potential to
swing the entire feeling of the season.
And that,
and that did it for me in the positive way had they lost,
I think it would have been a real catastrophe.
Hunter says, I think all of us are disappointed in how the trade deadline played out.
Some of us are dealing with that in an interesting way.
Yeah, yeah.
I think we talked about this after the loss to the Rams, that there is a pent up frustration
of Minnesota sports fans that implements or infiltrates, I should say, every single
conversation that's ever had about anything. When we break down a single win or a loss,
what the team is doing big picture wise, I think that it's a very comfortable place for people to
just say that the Minnesota sports team did everything wrong. And it must be hard for those people to
watch the wolves right now because they're doing everything right. But things have, things have
not been great for a long time in terms of how the Vikings have been built. And the last time
that they did a smart build, like good front office coaching together, building a team was
when Mike Zimmer first got here,
and that was a long time ago. And I think what the smart part is, because Eddie says here,
you need to build your team through the draft. Well, that's the funny thing is that the Vikings
have built some really key pieces through the draft, just not as many of them from Quasey
because he's only on his third draft. But when we think about it,
it's going to be pretty important probably to have JJ McCarthy, Justin Jefferson, Brian O'Neill,
Christian Derrissaw, Bradbury, I know frustrates people, but he's the starting center for a long
time. On the other side, you have a player like Ivan Pace, Josh Metellus, Cam Bynum, Harrison
Smith. I know it was a long time ago, still drafted player.
There's a lot of players on this team who were drafted,
who are the key pieces.
And there are players who are on the next wave,
Dallas Turner, Dwight McClother might be one of those guys.
Gabriel Murphy might be one of those guys.
We've seen Taki Taimani play.
We've seen, right, There's, there's guys
who, Oh, Blake Brandel. Also you're starting left guard through the draft as well. It's,
it's not exactly the same though, as someone like Detroit, but they filled in the rest with
free agency. So over the years, they have veteran players who have been drafted, maybe not even by
this team. I should mention Jordan Addison as well. Jalen Naylor as well.
So they have, they do have a lot of players who are drafted that are playing right now.
It doesn't feel like they have a lot of players that are the future guys at some of the key
positions like corner. That is an answer that they're going to have to figure out is how do
you fill out that spot? Is it a trade? Is it a first round pick next year, which they kept available?
But largely the way that they have built this team,
this last off season was to go out
and get day one free agents.
They should be able to spend a lot in the future
or make a trade for a key player in the future.
How they've done it recently
is by creating a ton of cap space to allow flexibility
to do whatever the heck they want to do. Like go out and get Cashman, Grenard, Van Ginkle. That is
a huge bunch of players. And to be able to keep Jefferson and Derrissaw, that's where they've
spent their money. And O'Neill, there's a lot of money in him as well. So they've done it that way by setting up their salary cap to be in
great position with JJ McCarthy. They will not be playing a million young players. It's going to be
a lot more veterans, which I think works for Brian Flores, but there's no one perfect way to build
the team because San Francisco, they went and traded for guys. The Eagles went and traded for guys. Even Washington,
look at Washington. Washington signed a bunch of dudes. They're throwing to Zach Ertz. He's still
in the league. They're throwing him passes. I mean, Washington did a lot of their damage by
signing people this off season to fill out their team and their seven and two. There's no one
perfect way to do this. And I think the biggest thing is
that they've put themselves in position right now to over the rest of this season, prove that they
are a true contender right now. And what happens next off season, there's probably going to be
a lot of things to talk about. I'll be here next March. But in the short term on trade deadline day,
we have to ask,
was there something that they could have done
that somebody else did,
a player that was moved
that would have changed the Vikings fate?
And there wasn't.
And I've got questions for the Dolphins
about Calais Campbell.
Why?
What's the purpose of keeping him?
But they didn't move him.
If they had moved him
for a conditional fifth round pick to another team that was a contender, I would have said,
uh, Vikings, that was your guy, but they didn't. Uh, Mike says, I trust that KAM,
Kwesi Daffo Mensah worked the phones the best he could realistically. Not every week
weakness could be fixed. Maybe some of the development players can get more run.
Now, that is a good point that they do have a couple of players
that we might start to see.
Richard said, I'm curious to hear if they tried.
I'm sure that they tried as far as working the phones,
but the teams that were supposed to sell just didn't sell.
Aaron says the draft is in green Bay next year.
Will you go?
I have not thought about that one yet, Aaron.
I'm going to say actually, probably I do better just sitting here and talking to you guys
than I would go in there.
It'd be fun to go for a night to just see all the pomp and circumstance but i don't know if that's really
good for uh for content like trying to find a place to podcast and what i get out of that i mean
i guess i might be able to interview the first round pick maybe that's it zoomer kev comp draft
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Richard said,
we used to see big separations within divisions,
but there's more parity now.
We're halfway through the season.
The 50-50 team still believe they have a chance.
That's true.
That's true.
That they're just
it's so much harder to get farther away from your competition so kansas city is undefeated
and i'll check there what's what's their point differential it can't be that much right
kansas city's point different oh my gosh Is it the same as the Vikings? It is. Yep. They actually, Kansas city is undefeated and they are three
points worse in point differential than the Vikings. That's the league. The league is close.
And there's a, there's a lot of, there's a lot of close games. There's a lot of teams that
could have been like the Bengals, a much better team if one call doesn't
go against them or doesn't go for them.
So that's where we're at when it comes to the Vikings.
And we look at the roster and we go, okay, it's not going to be a perfect roster, but
almost any team you face is not going to be that.
I guess we have a little news here.
The Patriots claiming Tyrese Robinson
from the Vikings practice squad. Tyrese had a good preseason, I thought, as a pass protector.
I mean, you know, when you lose a practice squad guy, it's possible that he could develop into
something, but I don't think it's ever too big of a concern. We talked about Kyle Hinton
once upon a time, Vidarian Lowe once upon a time. There's always going to be these weaknesses,
though. Tyson says we'll get killed on quick slants. There's always going to be these weaknesses.
You're never just going to have
no weakness at all. And if there was a player today that they could have traded for that would
have been able to stop all quick slants at corner, then I'm sure they would have gone out and tried
to get them. But I don't know who that was. They're going to have weaknesses. And the NFL
is really just about how you paint over those that might be having to protect the football on offense. I mean, I think that's really what it is
that the Vikings can be a great team. If they have long drives, like they did the other night,
they use Hockinson Addison in the quick game and then hit Jefferson down the field.
They run the football well and consistently with both Akers and Jones. And they do not have catastrophic mistakes.
There's going to be some, but you can't have them at the volume that Sam Darnold has this year.
If you do that, you have a chance to be as good as anybody.
Now, there's maybe one team that I would say is clearly better.
But we know what factors are going to get in the way.
And also Blake Cashman's health is going to be a huge deal. Uh, Wendell says maybe the last four
games, they will bring in Levi Rodriguez with the high motor and some fresh legs. Yeah. I'll
be curious to see if players get developed and that there's, uh, some of those guys that we
haven't talked about at all who start to emerge toward
the end of the season. That could be something that we see. I think that someone like Levi
Drake Rodriguez probably needs a whole year of development and is someone to look forward to
for the future. That's the thing. They have quite a few of those guys on the defensive side where you go, Hey, you know, Theo Jackson might play a big role next year. Uh, they, um, might use Dwight McClother next year,
Mackay Blackman coming back. So there are guys for the future. Levi Drake Rodriguez is one of them.
I just don't know if he's going to work his way into a key role or not this year. Uh,
but you know, we'll see. I mean, one of the things is that they've been able to
stay healthy. And if they have a few injuries, then we might see more of those young players.
Dak says, some of y'all hate Quasey because of 2022. The team is good. Quasey is great at trades.
2023 draft looked really, really good with limited players. 2024 is one we're already excited about yeah i think uh when it comes to the general
manager one thing is that every single one of us including this guy pointing to myself for those
of you listening on audio who we we love to play armchair gm and on draft night, 2022, I was not super happy with the draft. I didn't like the idea
of trading out of that pick and moving down. I didn't like the positional value of Lewis scene.
I thought he'd be a lot better player, but I didn't like the positional value.
But there's also moves that they didn't make that I thought they should,
that wouldn't have worked out. I wanted them to pick Jameson Williams. That hasn't really worked out for Detroit all that well. Maybe it will,
if he could stay out of trouble for like four weeks in a row, but that wouldn't have been a
great pick. Some of you wanted Kenyon green, the guard at that position, or Jordan Davis is not a
huge difference making player for Philadelphia. He's good, but he's not like life changing.
And it's, it's one of the best and also one of the most frustrating parts of the sport
is how much fun it is to play armchair GM and talk about all the different moves.
There's so many players, there's so many dynamics, there's trades, there's all these
things you can do.
And so I think that that's a big part of it is when the vikings don't make a move and we thought they should then the armchair gm mode goes and i
bounce back and forth between i like doing all that stuff myself and also let's be realistic here
it says to me hey how come you couldn't get your hands on calais campbell what the heck
or why is the guard position still being talked about?
What the heck?
But also Campbell wasn't moved and neither was Clowney
and neither was DJ Reed and neither was Nate Hobbs
and neither was all these guys that we brought up
that just weren't moved.
But as far as the long-term picture of the team,
if that's a discussion today,
I think that they've set themselves up
to have a lot of core players that drive wins in place for a long time.
Jefferson is at the top of that.
Hockinson, we saw his impact the other night.
Derisaw is another one.
And on the defensive side, Grenard, what a difference-making player.
We'll see Cashman here probably for quite some time. They've got all the pieces to build
around with JJ McCarthy into the future because they fixed their salary cap situation. And they've
also created an environment where players want to sign and that matters. So they will have an
opportunity to be good into the future. It was a balance a little bit of today. Do you want to really overpay to
pry somebody away from another team in order to be a percentage point better for this year?
And they seem to have decided not to. And also other teams decided not to give away their players
for nothing weird though, because Cam Robinson was traded for nothing to the Vikings. And then
other teams said, no, we're not nothing to the Vikings. And then other teams
said, no, we're not going to do that. It's just odd. I really need to get some explanations on
this. Uh, albino slug. We have albino squirrels in our neighborhood. Does everybody else have
those white squirrels? Uh, let's see. Uh, I'm happy they didn't do much today after Darisaw
went down, our season kind of went with it. They could still make noise,
but they are going into the right direction,
but it's not a Superbowl team.
Well,
I don't,
I mean,
I,
I can never say that a team is a Superbowl team.
Cause how can you,
even the Detroit lions,
the best team in the NFL,
they still lost the game to Tampa.
They still almost lost to the Vikings.
Nobody's perfect. The number one seeds don't
always go to the Super Bowl and don't always win so nobody ever goes in with a great chance even
the one seeds might have a 25 or 30 chance to go but I don't agree with you saying that the
season went down after Derrissaw did because of Cam Robinson. That's a good player. And he was
very good in this game. He gave them all sorts of better chances to win in that game than they
would have if they had played Questenberry or if they had tried to move Blake Brandel over there.
Robinson's a good player. He has been good for four years and you saw it right away with
him being able to slow people down with basically no prep. Uh, and he'll get a little more familiar
as he goes forward, but that's a good player. You can, as you saw the other night, they had
that in my opinion, their most complete offensive game of the year against Indianapolis. It was high percentage completions, long drives, success running and passing.
Pass protection was good overall, except for a guy getting tripped in the strip sack.
But overall, 33% pressure rate, which is pretty good for Sam Darnold.
You can still operate the offense with Cam Robinson.
And if we're talking about what they did at the trade
deadline, I mean, getting Cam Robinson is a massive move to keep the season on track.
If Darasol was out and they had to play a backup, I would say, yeah, you're right. They can't go
anywhere without him, but Robinson's a legit starter. The Sin family says, why didn't we trade for Dexter Lawrence or a star? Did anyone in the
NFL trade for Dexter Lawrence or a star? Just doesn't happen that much. Doesn't happen that
much. Receivers begging to be traded is really the only times we ever see the stars get moved
and occasionally defensive ends. I mean, Lattimore is close, kind of used to be a star and maybe now is just closer to a guy.
The reason they didn't trade for Dexter Lawrence is because the New York Giants aren't trading
Dexter Lawrence. They don't plan on being bad for the next 10 years. Dexter Lawrence is probably a
top five defensive player in the entire league. I mean, geez. So Wendell says, who are the top three free agents you're
hoping for? Yeah, there's six and two. So I have no idea. Just I've not looked at free agents for
next year because there's six and two. I'm not there yet. We'll have plenty of time for that.
I promise. There's a whole month dedicated to free agency.
Before the season, I did a kind of tongue-in-cheek mock free agency for 2025
based on the way they had corrected their situation.
And I didn't want to do a way too early mock draft because they don't have any picks.
So you can look back at that.
Purpleinsider.com.
You have to scroll back a ways, but you can find it.
But I mean, I'm just not thinking about the free agents for next year
on a team that is in position to, I mean,
potentially win the next three, four games and be right there.
Everybody loves the offseason, but live in the moment, my friends.
Live in the moment.
Let's see.
Richard says, Darnie.
Now, we're not calling him Darnie.
Darnold takes the boys to the Super Bowl.
No J.J. McCarthy.
Stop talking about unproven, played good against what turned out to be horrible teams in the preseason.
So the thing about J.J. McCarthy is that the Vikings inside the building, I can tell you this,
fully believe in JJ McCarthy as their future franchise quarterback. They didn't just see him
against the Raiders in preseason like you did. They saw him every single day from the time that
he arrived to the time he got hurt, how he practiced, how he improved.
And I had a chance myself to see him in practice every day during training camp and also fully
understand why the Vikings believe in JJ McCarthy as their future quarterback. You don't have to be
critical or down on Sam Darnold to also look at JJ McCarthy and say, this guy has a chance to be
their future franchise quarterback. And over the next four or five years build around him with
Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and TJ Hawkinson and Derrissaw and be in a great
position. Those two things are not really related. It's not this guy versus that guy. It's
Sam Darnold's their quarterback right now.
He's playing some of the best quarterback in the entire NFL by all the statistics and
does have some weaknesses and some mistakes, but he absolutely has played great football
this season to get them to six and two and their future plan as of right now would still
also be to play JJ McCarthy as their franchise
quarterback into the future. Uh, let's see. Uh, Rick tick says, uh, looks like free agency is
the next alternative for the Vikings to fix the O-line D-line secondary. Like this year, next
year will be another playoff one and done.
Yeah, I know.
I know the season's over and next season's over too.
Great.
Good to hear.
Did I, did I misread that one?
I just don't understand.
Uh, yes, they will use their money that they have created in cap space to fill out the
roster next year as they did this year.
Like when they got lots of starters who have helped them get to 6-2.
Very glad that in 2022, Omega, Flash,
that you knew exactly what players were going to be great.
That's great for you.
I'm glad that you should have done the draft.
Every single person knew that the best player from the draft
was going to be the best player.
It's amazing.
Evan says all these teams that ended up not selling could be selling after the season is over
and coaches, GMs, and owners that weren't trying to save their jobs will be fired.
That's true.
That is true.
That might be another reason to hang on, the draft capital is if an opportunity arises to trade
the first for another player, there might be new ownership groups that at some point,
or our new leadership groups that are looking to move on from some of the players that they
have that are too expensive or whatever it might be. David says, any injury updates on the special teams? Yes, there is.
John Parker Romo has been brought back. Will Reichert to IR. They also signed a long snapper
and those guys are going to have to play for the next four weeks because Andrew DiPaola went to
IR as well. And they have to hope that Will Reichert is back to a hundred percent when he
returns because he was really, really good until he got banged up.
And John Parker Romo can kick, though.
I've seen him kick.
They're not bringing in somebody who is just going to fall on his face, I think.
He was kind of neck and neck with Reichert on some of the kicks,
but Reichert is just kind of a freak show.
So it's not going to be as good, but can you survive four
weeks? That's what they're hoping to do here. Ross says, I'm with you. The only move Vikings
really should have been in was Lattimore. Uh, if the trades aren't there, uh, they aren't there.
They just didn't have the draft capital to trade for him. That's really all they could have done.
So, um, Derek says, hope McCarthy comes back with some muscle added to the frame. He actually did that. He gained probably 20 pounds from the time that he finished in Michigan to the time he was playing in the preseason. He was a lot bigger. that when we get there. We'll have plenty of time to talk about JJ McCarthy when we're not talking
about a six and two team that's top three or four in their conference. So bottom line is I was very
surprised by today. I thought that a lot of teams would be selling. I thought that the NFL had
gotten smarter about their front offices and about timelines and that the Vikings were going to be a beneficiary of that.
I thought that they were going to be able to give up a fifth round pick and get a difference
making player and difference making players just didn't get moved.
And it was disappointing for everybody.
I sat there and refreshed and refreshed and refreshed, just like everybody else waiting,
trade somebody, acquire somebody
what's going on. And nothing happened, but nothing really happened around the league outside of
Pittsburgh made two moves for players that the Vikings would not have been in on. And the Cowboys
made an insane move. Okay. That's something again, the Vikings weren't a part of and Washington
traded a lot for a veteran corner that the
Vikings couldn't have matched. End of story. Overall, the last few weeks were pretty fun
with trades trickling in and the Vikings made two very good trades, just not at the deadline today
to get Robinson and Akers. And now we go forward and each week is going to be a different feeling
on this team, as we really know from the
last couple of weeks but they have a chance as good as anybody in the nfc outside of one team
to make this very interesting as we go down the stretch into the playoffs and i don't think not
acquiring someone today ruined their chances acquiring someone would have helped and if they
had gotten a big time player it really would have helped. And if they had gotten a big
time player, it really would have helped. But those guys just didn't become available. All the names
that we threw out there. And so we are left kind of shrugging because it's not like a lot of teams
got a lot better. The Lions helped themselves. The commanders helped themselves. Everything else is mostly the same in the NFC.
And here we go.
Jacksonville, Tennessee, Chicago.
Opportunities for the Vikings to win a lot of games here going forward.
They have to do it.
And if they don't, maybe we will look back at this and say, ah, they were just one player away.
Jackie says our ceiling is second round divisional team this season.
I was hoping to strike while the iron is hot this season as there are no guarantees we'll be six and two
at the halfway mark no i i agree uh that i thought that was a good idea too to try to go out and add
someone i didn't realize that there wouldn't be any opportunity there and that these goofballs
who have two win teams would be clutching on to their veteran players.
I just don't get it.
I just don't get it.
And that's really my biggest takeaway
is not even about the Vikings.
It's about the Dolphins.
What are you doing?
What is it that you're using a 38-year-old
Calais Campbell for?
That seems like a good place to end the show. Just me yelling at
the Miami dolphins. So anyway, no, uh, good chat though. I think a lot of people, anytime that
they are disappointed when there was hype are going to be frustrated. I think there are questions
about where this team is going to go in the future to build around what they have and how they're
going to work it out with limited assets as far as the
draft goes, but with a lot in terms of cap space, how are they going to figure it out?
But as of tomorrow, we go right back into, it is the Jaguars. I'm not flying to Jacksonville
for nothing, folks. I'm going there to cover an important game for the Vikings to take care of business and stay on track of having a highly competitive season where they could go down the stretch and
have a chance to fight in the playoffs. You may reasonably, Jackie, think that it's a second
round divisional team. I might make that bet right now that that is probably it. But also,
I don't know. Two point difference between them and the Detroit Lions.
I don't know the Los Angeles Rams in the playoffs. Were they the four seed? I mean,
the playoffs bring a lot of madness, get there with 12 wins, have a hundred point differential,
have a top 10 passing game and let's roll the football out and see what happens.
But you got to get there first. There's a long way to go. And of course we'll be here to cover it all.
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