Pursuit of Wellness - Girl Chat: Luxury Weddings, Leaving Wall Street, & How to Get a Birkin w/ Hannah Chody

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

Ep. 183: For this Girl Chat, we’re joined by Hannah Chody—content creator, entrepreneur, and all-around style expert. She’s built a loyal following for her effortlessly chic fashion and sharp business insights, but today, we’re going deeper. Hannah breaks down the secretive process of buying a Birkin, gives us an inside look at her Lake Como wedding—including what she’d do differently—and shares how she made the leap from Wall Street to entrepreneurship. Plus, we get into her family’s legacy with Garrett Popcorn and how she revived an Austin cult-favorite nut milk brand. It’s a fun and fascinating convo about style, business, and going after what you really want in life. Leave Me a Message - click here! For Mari’s Instagram click here! For Pursuit of Wellness Podcast’s Instagram click here! For Mari’s Newsletter click here! For Hannah’s Instagram click here! Sponsored By: Upgrade your wardrobe with luxury essentials at a fraction of the price. Shop Quince for high-quality cashmere, silk, and more—50–80% less than similar brands. Get free shipping and 365-day returns at quince.com/pow. Turn your home into a sanctuary with Cozy Earth’s ultra-soft bedding and bath essentials. Get 40% off at cozyearth.com/pursuit with code PURSUIT. Ditch the toxins and switch to safe, effective cleaning with Branch Basics. Get 15% off at branchbasics.com/POW15 with code POW15. #branchbasicspod Upgrade your sleep with Dream Recovery. Get deeper rest and glowing skin with their innovative sleep essentials. Use code PURSUIT15 at dreamrecovery.io for an exclusive discount. Upgrade your protein game with Maui Nui—100% wild-harvested, stress-free venison packed with clean, nutrient-dense protein. Supplies are limited, so grab my favorite cuts now at mauinuivenison.com/POW. Show Links: Boost your energy and focus with Bloom Sparkling Energy—zero sugar, natural caffeine, and prebiotics for a refreshing lift without the crash. Topics Discussed 00:00:00 Welcome 00:00:41 Hannah’s background 00:02:37 The grind at Goldman Sachs 00:08:09 Biggest shift from NYC to Austin 00:10:31 Tips on making new friends 00:13:58 How Hannah met Chad 00:16:34 9+ year relationships 00:21:18 Hannah’s engagement 00:23:10 Hannah’s wedding 00:24:39 Some of Hannah’s favorite wedding things 00:27:28 Things to avoid during wedding planning 00:28:40 Day of wedding advice 00:29:54 How Hannah became a content creator 00:34:34 How to handle online criticism  00:37:28 Hannah’s personal style 00:41:30 Lore of a Birkin bag 00:44:55 How to get a Birkin bag 00:52:48 The food in Europe vs. the food in the U.S 00:55:23 Fronks 00:59:41 Tom Ford eye shadow dupe? 01:18:00 Has Hannah had work done? 01:02:43 How would Hannah style Taylor Swift? 01:04:25 Emotional and logistical wedding tips for brides  01:05:23 Tips for exchanging vows 01:06:18 Designer items to splurge on on a budget 01:07:33 What made Hannah join the family business 01:09:13 Skincare and beauty must haves 01:11:06 How to stand out in a saturated industry? 01:14:16 What to invest in for a luxury style on a limited budget

This is the Pursuit of Wellness podcast and I'm your host, Mari Llewellyn. Hannah, welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm so excited to have you today. I'm so happy to be here. I've wanted you to come on for a while. I actually have questions for you that I've never gotten to ask you. Amazing. As a friend. I feel like that always comes up because you're always talking about other things that are so current in people's lives that you never really get to dig deep. Yeah. And then I'm sitting down prepping for you and I'm like, wait, I actually have questions

for her that I want to know. Amazing. Let's just start by giving the people some background. I feel like a lot of people listening probably follow you, but for anyone who doesn't know, give us some tea on who you are. What's my little 30 second spiel? I'm from Chicago, then went to college in LA, grew up with two sisters, moved to New York, worked in finance. That was kind of my upbringing and what I always wanted to do. I always wanted to be a finance girlie. You did? I'm super analytical type A,

was really into school and thought that was my path. And I did the whole finance thing for a really long time and decided it was no more. And I have always been obsessed with fashion and then kind of found my way into content creation, now work for my family business while content creating, married to Chad, our sweet angel, and we have an English bulldog, Dante.

So it's really evolved, but... That's a great spiel. You know, I have a lot of eras of my life. You do, and I love that about you. And I was, you know, I was actually talking to Taylor yesterday about how smart you are. Thank you. And I feel like when I hang out with you, you just pull these like facts out of your brain.

Like one time we were on a walk and we were talking about like, what were we talking about? I think we were talking about religion and you just like had all this information and like all these facts. You just have a fact. You love a fact and I feel like you have the best memory. And when you even when you do your content, you remember every makeup product, every shade name. I know, my memory is really bizarre because I'll forget something like super important that someone maybe just told me, but if I read something or if I subconsciously commit

something to memory, I'll never forget it. Like if you asked me what's in my closet, I could like name every single thing I own. Wild. But I can't remember what I ate for dinner last night. But it is like a really, I don't know, it makes you stand out to me. Like when I watch your content, I feel like it's,

like you clearly are just like highly educated and intelligent. Thank you. And it's really, really cool. Thank you. So let's talk about Goldman, because like, honestly, what the fuck? Like what, like, what was that? Like I wanna hear the day-to-day of corporate finance

because I can't even imagine it. I know. I mean, looking back now that I've been out of it for over three years since I quit, I quit end of 2021, I started in 2015, and it was my first job out of college, just straight into the ringer at Goldman. And I mean, you're sitting on a trading floor,

at least I was, I was in the sales and trading division and you're sitting on a trading floor of 400 to 600 people. 400 to 600 people. It is like two football fields. No. It's huge. Like screens of stocks everywhere. We all have four, like not everyone, a lot of people have four computer screens.

Some people have two. It really just depends on the role. And everyone's on the phone. It's loud. It got quieter over the years as electronic trading picked up. But I will say it was just, it's very overstimulating. Very busy. And everyone takes their job incredibly seriously. It's intimidating in the sense that

Goldman is kind of like the pinnacle of finance investment banking for a lot of people. And so you're surrounded by like the smartest people. It's not like you're the smartest person in the room anymore. There's just so much to learn, a lot of personalities and really high expectations. So the day to day day I would get there, it would depend on how early my meetings were, but I'd be there 7 a.m. a few times a week, 7.30, the days that I didn't have a 7 a.m. meeting, but. 7 a.m. meeting?

Yeah, so I guess you get there at 6.45 for your 7 a.m. meeting. Oh my God, I hate that so much. Are you having any type of morning routine before that? Are you like out of bed to work? It depended. Sometimes I would do like a little at home workout. I was a 5 a.m. Barry's girl for a minute.

Like how? I did that for a while, yeah. Like 5 a.m. what was I thinking? It's unfortunate that we went through that. Absolutely, but you know, we're better for it now. We're better for it. Now we're at Pilates at eight. It's giving fight or flight.

It is, it is. The court has all went crazy. Yeah, now we're at Forma at 8 a.m. Like our lives are so chill now. So different. And you know, you'd go for a meeting and then you'd be at your desk and you'd be getting stuff done. It would really just depend.

I was in a strategic role, so it was a lot more project-based than day-to-day, but I would have daily meetings with some super senior people and there were a lot of fire drills, you know. So it just, you had calm days, but you couldn't count on them. And you're there till what time? I was there usually, I worked market hours, so I would usually leave like between six and seven PM.

Oh my God, I would hate that so much. I know, but I thought it was what I aspired to do. Yeah. And it's like, it's huge. I basically discovered what investment banking finance looked like in high school. And I was like, this is what Iired to do. Yeah, and it's like, it's huge. I basically discovered what investment banking, finance looked like in high school. And I was like, this is what I want to do. I just thought that it meant that you were important.

I think, I guess I wanted to excel at whatever I did. And that was a fancy good job to have. Like my family, no one in my family worked in finance. I had no exposure to it, but that's just what I decided I wanted to do. And I mean, I'm proud of myself that I did did it and it was a grind for a long time, but one day I was just like, I can't do this anymore. I feel like there's a season for everything.

I feel similar to you. I got my grinding seasons kind of out of the way and now I'm in a very unique time of my life, but I think it's a very, I don't know, I always say the feminine masculine, you know, errors. People don't like when I say that, but you know what I mean. Like a hardcore era and a soft core era.

And I feel like watching you now, it seems like your job is very creative. You get to have fun with it. You get to share your personal beliefs. Like I feel like it's kind of like night and day from what you were doing at Goldman, it seems like. I completely agree. And I learned so much at Goldman that I apply to every aspect of my life now, whether it

is the corporate job I'm currently working or even social media. But I'm glad that I've shut that chapter. Do you apply your analytical mind to the engagement numbers on Instagram and social? I think about it, but I wish I were a little bit more tuned into my engagement. I want things to perform well, but I don't use my engagement to then make more content unless it's like crazy viral or something. Like the Tom Ford eyeshadow. Yeah, like the Tom Ford eyeshadow stuff.

Are we wearing that today? I am. You know, I didn't know that about you, by the way. It's very niche. It's very niche. Like I became friends with you and I had watched your content before we even met. And I was convinced-

Yeah, I think we're mutuals on TikTok. Totally, and I was convinced that you lived in New York based on your lifestyle. I was like, she for sure lives in New York. Had no idea you lived in Austin until I went to Sammy Spalter's jewelry event. And you were there. And I was like, how does she lives in Austin? I was shocked. Wait, that's so funny. Isn't that funny? Yeah. And I also think right when I started on social media, I was living in New York.

So I think a lot of people just assumed that forever because I never made... I think that there are some content creators that are a little bit more focused on their geographic location. There are Austin content creators, for example. I just don't think I've ever had my content be focused around where I am. Totally. Because I'm traveling. People love travel. Yeah.

Yeah. Your Paris vlogs and your Milan vlogs, I love for those. What's the biggest shift in your lifestyle from New York to Austin, would you say? I think it just forced me to slow down. I was convinced I loved the high-pace, high-energy lifestyle, never stopping. And in some aspects I do, I keep myself very, very busy during the day, but it just kind of forced me to take a step back and realize that not everything is that serious. Not everything has to be so regimented.

I love my morning routine, but my entire day doesn't need to be so regimented. When I was in New York, I would get home from work and I would say no to a lot of social obligations because I knew I had to be up early the next day for my berries before work, before grinding all day at work. And now I'm just way more flexible. And I think that also comes with time. You know, you kind of grow up and you realize

that nothing is life or death. 100%. I feel like I used to be super regimented and honestly afraid of deviating from the plan. I was like, if I don't go to golds at six, what's gonna happen? Am I gonna be okay? I don't know.

Yeah, you get in this mode and then you're on autopilot almost, but then you lose joy in life. Totally, you lose joy. And I think, I don't know if you relate to this, but I feel like I have better friendships and more friendships now than I ever have in my whole life. I agree, I had great friends in New York,

but because I had all of these rules for myself, I wasn't really focusing on them and investing in my friendships. And it's like, how do you get close to people unless you wanna put that energy in? You know, I had some friends who had been long-term friends so that was easy, but I wasn't really building new friendships in the way that I have

since moving to Austin. And Austin is also uniquely special because I feel like everyone here wants to make friends. It's so great. And I have not experienced that sentiment in any other city. I agree. Like even LA. LA was very, for me at least, very transactional.

And I was also there for business. Like I wasn't really looking to make friends either. For some reason, Austin is like the most social place, I feel. It's so social, even though there are so many super business minded people, tons of entrepreneurs. Like people are hustling here, but it just doesn't feel like that's the only reason to get to know people. 100%.

And in New York, it's the same thing. It's networking at the end of the day. What would you recommend to girls listening who have a hard time meeting girls that they really like and are like-minded? What are your friendship tips? So I think that my number one friendship tip is if you have one friend or one acquaintance that you can go to things with, that's all you need. You need that comfort and that security blanket, almost,

to expand your network. I never liked going to events alone. I'm still scared to go to events alone. Even if I know, I'll probably know someone there. I think that if you have one person that you can kind of get out of your comfort zone with, that will allow you to meet more people. It's just less intimidating. And then I also think you do have to put yourself out there by going to things that you truly

enjoy and just being friendly to people. It sounds really intimidating, but for example, if you like Pilates, go to a Pilates studio or try a few Pilates studios and see where there are people that you think that you would vibe with and just be like, oh, hi, I've seen you here before. I'm Hannah. I have never thought it was weird if someone came up and said hi to me and introduced themselves to me, even though I'm naturally a bit more introverted and shy in those scenarios. So I'm nervous to do that, but I've never judged anyone

for doing it. 100%. Or go to coffee shops. Maybe everyone goes to the same coffee shop after your Pilates class. Go and be like, hey, I saw you in class today. I think that you just have to spend time on things that you genuinely enjoy doing, and you can also naturally meet people that way.

There's definitely people at Forma who've made friends with one another. Compliment a pair of socks. Yeah, complimenting someone, that is a really good point, Mari. Giving someone a compliment, it's so easy. Easy, and we all do it naturally. And people love to be complimented.

Love it. If a girl says she likes something I'm wearing, I'm like, oh my God, thanks. And it flows into a conversation very easily. And I feel like why not shoot your shot? I mean, if it ends badly, then whatever. Or just be like, oh my god, class was so hard today. Yeah, anything. I like to be more positive than this, but it is scientifically proven that humans bond over complaining. Not you pulling out the fact. You're like 80% of people. Yeah, I'm not going to spew any numbers because I don't want to get it wrong.

And my mom would always say like, Hannah, don't complain. But I'm like, there is like a shared bond over like being miserable over something. You know, you can look over to someone while you're doing planks and be like, oh my God, I'm dying. Yeah. You know, and just be lighthearted with people. It doesn't have to be like true negativity. Totally. You know, just a little comment. You know, and just be lighthearted with people. It doesn't have to be like true negativity. Totally.

You know, just a little comment. You know what's funny? In the UK, I feel like people love to complain in the UK. It's like very much of the culture and the humor, the weather, like there's always something wrong in the UK. Like you can come up with anything. And I feel like that's how people bond in England. So when I'm around my family, I notice that that's what they do.

And I'm like, American culture is so much more like positive And we're all like, oh my God, this is amazing. But I feel like my natural inclination is to kind of be a little pessimistic sometimes, which I'm trying to fix, but it's ingrained in me. I know. It's literally part of your DNA. I feel this way about gossiping too. I think it's bonding. It is. It totally is. And I think that there's good gossip and bad gossip. Like, you don't want to talk meanly about someone else, but if you're sharing information, people love information. We're sharing information for our own safety. Yeah. In the tribe, we're sharing info. We got to stay safe. So I know that you met Chad at Goldman, correct? I did. Okay. Can we hear more about that?

Yes. So it's a really funny story because I don't remember a good, like the beginning of it. I fear you blacked out your Goldman experience. Yeah, I fear I did. This is, okay, this is a little bit of a long story, but basically when I was at Goldman, there weren't that many California college kids. You know, it was a lot of East Coast schools that would go and work at Goldman. So Chad had gone to school in Southern California. I'm two years behind him.

And basically, they shared with the other California recent graduates, like who's coming from California, basically. All USC? Wasn't all USC. It was a few different schools. So he had seen my resume. There were probably like 10 of us who had gone to school in California. And so they had seen everyone.

And he recognized me when he saw me one of my first days on the desk. And he didn't work on the same team as me. So it was just by chance that he saw me there. And he came up and he introduced himself. And he was like, hi, like I saw you're new. Like I don you're new. I don't remember this. I remember someone coming up to me and I was like,

why are you talking to me? Got in my head, I wouldn't have been able to tell you that was Chad, but he remembers, of course. No way. And he just introduced himself, was super nice, and then went on his way. And I barely remembered the encounter. All I remember was being scared on one of my first days

of work, because I was like, wait, I'm supposed to be working. Why are you talking? A couple of months later, we just ended up, one of my friends from training was on his team, and we just ended up going to drinks. And he was so funny. And a few weeks after that, he asked me if I wanted to get sushi. And we got sushi.

Wait, I didn't even know this story. Yeah. And he's, guys, Chad is so polite and kind and just like this Texas gentleman. Yes, he's from a ranch in Texas. Like he is, he's so sweet and like he took his shot, you know, one of my first days at Goldman and it didn't, that one did not work for him. But then, you know, it took some time. It came back around and it was better that way probably.

He was probably like the nicest person in that building. Like compared to these like other finance guys. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Like the typical douchey finance bro. He's just like so lovely. Yeah. He's great. A few months after that, like I guess we started dating and then he left Goldman. So we didn't really overlap. And you stayed. Yes. So how long have you been with Chad now? Nine years. Okay. Yeah. Like me and Greg. Yeah. We're really overlap. And you stayed. Yes. So how long have you been with Chad now? Nine years. Okay, yeah, like me and Greg. Yeah.

We're at 10. I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. And I was, you know, Taylor was here last week and we were talking about, it's so different to be with someone for a decade. Like, I feel like a lot of our friends have been married for like a year and they've been together for four or whatever. When you're with someone for that long, you see each other through so many stages. So many stages of life.

And you almost like we're like little old people. Like I feel like we have to you know what I mean? Yes, we know each other so well. Like it's crazy. It really changes the dynamic of your relationship. And I feel like I don't know about you. I mean, it's not that I take Greg for granted, I never want to say that, but I have to remind myself to like jazz things up and do date nights.

Yeah, keep things you know interesting and fun and keep things not so comfortable. Totally. Whereas like a lot of people our age are just getting married or like whatever and they're in such a different place. Or we're like trying to give our friends relationship advice or dating advice. I know. It's so hard because- I really try to like instill wisdom,

but I'm like, I have not dated someone since I was 23. No, I literally feel like I did. Cause in my head, the last time I went on a date, I was like 21, like ratchet in college. I wasn't a good version of me. Yeah. You know? So like, how do we give good advice?

I know. We were better in other areas. So how do we give good advice? I know. We were better in other areas. We have perspective though. We do have good perspective. We'll always give good advice, even if it's not the most relevant to 2025. They're like, this makes zero sense. They're like, yeah, we're not on Tinder anymore. Because things have changed.

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So, okay, I have to talk about your wedding. Yeah, let's do it. You had- My pride and joy. So, okay, I have to talk about your wedding. Yeah, let's do it. You had... My pride and joy. I mean, your pride and joy, which I also didn't know until I was fully in your TikTok and I was like, oh shit, she had the craziest wedding. And a lot of girls, I had tons of questions about your wedding, which we will get to.

Fabulous. But tell us, how did you get engaged? I need the full story because I don't even know. Okay. Plus, how did you get engaged? I need the full story because I don't even know. OK. So Chad and I, at this point, had been dating. We got engaged Thanksgiving 2020. So we were just shy of five years of dating. And I was getting a little impatient.

But then COVID hit and like, Screwed everything up. Everything got screwed up. My family goes to Cabo basically every year for Thanksgiving. And he had said before, because I was like, oh, he'll probably propose on a trip. And he was like, I'm not proposing to you in Cabo. Like that's your family's trip. Like I don't want it tied to that. But his engagement plans had been derailed because he had wanted to travel like summer 2020 and obviously we couldn't.

So he pivoted. I still had no idea, and he basically rented out this restaurant at the Waldorf where we stay in Cabo called El Faryon. It's this beautiful cliffside restaurant that only does dinner. So he had a full setup there for brunch. And so I thought we were taking family Christmas card pictures. And then basically someone knocked on our door who worked at the hotel and it was a note from Chad and it was like Hannah meet me at El Faryon. And I was like, Oh my God, like no. Like I was so mad because I was so caught off guard. Like he really got me. Were

you wearing white? I was, but it was like a for a love and lemons dress that I look back on and I'm like, why did I get a picture? Why did I wear that? Because I thought it was Christmas card pictures. I didn't really, I was like, I don't really care. Like, it's whatever. Yeah. And I mean, it was also like of the time. So it was kind of cute for the time, whatever. And so I walk over there and I look at him and I'm like,

you are a liar. And he proposed. There was a photographer. And basically, he set up a beautiful brunch. And then my family came. So they weren't hiding and watching. They were in the room. And let us like have our moment. And then, so yeah, that was November, 2020.

We got married June, 2022 in Lake Como. And I mean, I'm just, I love Italy. I've loved Italy like since the first time I ever went there, Chad and I had been to Lake Como, like we loved it. He's also a huge fan of Italy. And we're from different places. We lived in different places. We were like, it's going to be a destination wedding regardless. Let's just do a real destination. Full send.

Yeah. When we were planning, my parents were like, people might not come. This might be a very small wedding. And I was like, I don't care. I want it to be in Lake Como. But because it had been COVID, everyone wanted to travel and it ended up being like 190 people. Wow. It was crazy. Yeah, everyone was like, we're down. And I do everything with everything I've got.

So I was so invested in every detail, every item of clothing, every place setting. Like I was just so particular about every aspect. So you were like super involved in the planning of it. I was very involved, great, super talented planners. My mom was also super involved. I mean, it ended up being amazing. It was, I wouldn't have changed a thing,

which is the most obnoxious thing to say, but I had the best, it was the best time of my life. Were you always like growing up, were you always like a wedding girl, or was it just like you became more enthusiastic about it? I wasn't a wedding girl, but I was always a fashion girl and very into nice things and details.

And just like, you know, I was a luxury girl, I guess. Like I don't, my mom was like, how did this happen? But I was just so into it. What were some of your favorite things that you did at your wedding that you would recommend to anyone planning a wedding right now? Okay, so for anyone planning a wedding, I think that it doesn't have to be these specific things that I did, but I think it's more so the overall experience.

And I think guest experience comes first. This will be a special day for you as the bride and groom, bride and bride, groom, groom, whatever. Your guests, what makes them remember and love a wedding is the time that they had. And I think that a lot of weddings are so couple-focused that you kind of forget about everyone else.

Yeah. For that, it's, you know, making sure it's fun. Like, we had people on the dance floor before dinner. I don't love, like, a super long dinner at a wedding. I think that people kind of lose steam. So we were constantly, like, having dance sets in between courses and things like that. Or no one wants to wait in line at a bar after the ceremony for 20 minutes to get a drink. So how can you get more drinks into the hands of people?

Is it you have multiple bars or maybe you have waiters passing around drinks on trays or something of that nature just so that people aren't standing around and waiting or sitting around and waiting. And it doesn't have to be, you know, anything super extravagant. It's just finding little ways to make your guests' time there more enjoyable. Mm-hmm. I think that that is my main piece of advice.

I think as far as some favorite things that we did, we did this daytime fireworks show, like, as we kissed at the altar, instead of doing, like, nighttime fireworks, that we did this daytime fireworks show, as we kissed at the altar, instead of doing nighttime fireworks. And it was these colorful clouds that were exploding in the air. Oh my gosh.

And that was fun, that was a surprise to everyone. I was super secretive about everything. You were? Yeah. You didn't share with anyone? No, my mom and I were the only ones who knew everything that was happening. That's cool though. We had opera singers come in from the Milan Opera during the pasta course.

I'm so sad I didn't know you at this time. I know, I know. I have so many amazing friends that I've made since we got married. I'm like, Chad, we're going to have to figure out how to run it back. That's what sucks about making- We have such great friends and none of us are at each other's wedding. I'm redoing my wedding. You have to.

I'm redoing mine. Mine, I did it during building bloom. I was not paying attention to it. It was like really fun and amazing day, but I'm doing it again. When I hit my like five year perhaps. Yeah. I hate, I mean that's kind of coming up. And you guys will all be there.

I know I was going to do 10 years. I was like, that's too long. 10's a long way away. Yeah, we're good on that. You should do another mini, mini Lake Homo moment. I know, I was gonna do 10 years. I was like, that's too long. 10's a long way away. Yeah, we're good on that. Five. You should do another mini, mini Lake Homo moment. I know, I know, I really want to. But I feel like you would get really crazy with it.

I know, the problem is that like everything I do, I feel like I go all out and you can't do everything all out. And the first one was so good. I know, you can't recreate, you have to just feel re-inspired and do something new but similar. And you said you don't regret anything that you did, but in the process, was there anything that you would recommend people avoid or forget about?

If you have a planner, they know what they're doing. Don't stress yourself out. My planners, they executed so well,, there were moments where I was like, wait, I feel like we're getting close, and, like, I don't know what's going on. I think everyone has different personalities, and I'm super type A, and it was stressing me out. But, like, they had everything under control,

but I just, like, started to get freaked out. If you're a person who can't handle that, maybe consider that when you're looking at planners, and, you know, because some are going to be, like, way more communicative and feel more organized than others. But at the end of the day, this is their profession. So I was just so stressed out.

And I also got stressed out because Como, it's at the base of the mountains. And so it has that summer weather where it sometimes rains. And it's not a huge rainstorm, but you know. So rain was in the forecast. I drove myself crazy looking at the weather. There's no point in looking at the weather. You cannot control it.

Period. And just let go of things you can't control. And if you have people who are, you know, helping put on your event, like, trust them. They know what they're doing. Day of, do you have any advice for like, making sure you're present and having fun? My phone was nowhere the entire weekend. Thank God I didn't lose it. Like, I have no idea where it was. I probably just left it in my hotel room the entire time. Because everyone's taking pictures of you anyway.

Everyone is taking pictures. Like, if someone needs to get a hold of you, you're with people at all times. It's not that serious and we're all so consumed by our phones, like you don't want that. Like you are with people you love. Everyone that you wanna be talking to is hopefully there. Yep, exactly. And it's like the one day that is about you and your partner and no one else and enjoy it

and relish in that fact because you're not gonna get those moments back. Focus like day of on just being super present. Yeah. I did the same thing. Swam in the lake with my sisters. My friends all came. We all got ready together.

My mom came in later. So did my mother-in-law. Like, I just think that it was very low key, but super intentional and just like intimate. Yeah. I agree. I put your phone away. You don't want to look back and be like, oh, I kind of spent a lot of time on my intimate. Yeah, I agree. I put your phone away. You don't wanna look back and be like, oh, I kind of spent a lot of time on my phone. Yeah, no.

You should be wondering where it is. I wanna pivot to becoming a content creator. Yes. And talking about fashion and all the things. Like what was your first video that you ever posted? Wait, you're gonna love this. My first video was my outfit to the Houston rodeo in 2022. Stop. Yeah, I made a... Isn't that right now? The rodeo? Yeah, it's about to start.

Oh my God. If it hasn't started already. Wait, that's crazy. I know. It's so funny. So I guess I'm coming up on three years. I definitely didn't take it seriously in the beginning, but my first ever TikTok was I made a Snapchat of my outfit. And one of my friends was like, you should put this on TikTok. Shout out Krista. I know she's listening. She's a big fan of yours. Oh, Krista, hi.

And she was like, you should put this on TikTok. And I did. And it didn't really do anything. I posted a couple outfits to TikTok over a few weeks. And then a few weeks after that, I posted everything that I had worn on my bachelorette party. And that was one of those TikToks that like after three days, like it went viral. Yeah. I was like, oh my God, like, I'm sorry, but like the dopamine and serotonin you get from like a viral TikTok is

unmatched. And I got like probably a thousand followers from that. Like nothing crazy, but like, I started just posting my outfits. I tried to post every day. I don't think I did, but it was very much like just my outfits for a really long time. And now you do beauty.

I mean, you do so much. Yeah, like vlogging lifestyle. I'm kind of all over the place now. I think the vlogs are my favorite. Thank you. I need to be better at it because now that I'm on my YouTube thing, I forget to do my TikTok vlogs.

Make sure you check out Hannah's YouTube guys. Yeah, I'm working really hard on it. YouTube's hard. I love YouTube. I'm a consumer of YouTube. I used to create YouTube. It's my favorite platform. As someone who's never consumed them,

it's really foreign to me. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm like, I can't believe people are watching these 20 minute videos. No girl, I am. But people do. When I'm doing my makeup, I watch them. On the treadmill, I watch them.

It's definitely a nice way to pass time. I mean, I watch TikToks while I'm doing my makeup. You just don't have to scroll, which is kind of nice. Yeah, and it's a little bit more like slow pace. Yes. And you really get to know someone. I think you build the craziest fan base being a YouTuber because they know everything.

They know everything you're doing, like every aspect of your life. Where your bedsheets are from, where your shoes are from, what you said to your husband when you were eating breakfast, like it's pretty wild. Yeah, I need to get better at the vlogging of it all. I sometimes forget, so. You with the horizontal phone cracks me up.

I know, because I'm not bringing my camera anywhere. So I'm like, I look like a grandma like taking like sideways. Hannah was running around veil like, but you're doing it. That's great. You know what? We're seeing how it works with everything that's unknown with TikTok. I'm just like, I might as well, you know, expand my reach. I think that's smart.

I think that's smart, why not? And you never know what's gonna happen. You're also very well spoken and have very interesting days to other people. Like I really think that. Thank you. And also what I loved about your content before I even knew you,

and I wanna phrase this correctly, I like watching luxury content. And I'm just gonna say that out loud like. Yeah, I mean, I think people do. People love watching luxury content. And I'm just gonna say that out loud. Yeah, I mean, I think people do. People love watching luxury content. And I liked that you were unapologetic about it. And you were like, hey, I like designer shit. Here's what I got.

Yeah, and it's not, I don't come from a place of bragging. It's more just sharing things that I love and that I'm passionate about. You also are so funny, because I feel like when you talk about something, it's like coming from a factual place. You're like, it's made of leather from here. And like, you just, you know what I mean?

It feels different than it's not a brag or a flex. It's not for show. Exactly. It's I have been so into this stuff since I was probably, you know, seven or eight years old is like the youngest I can remember. Yeah. But I've always just been so into fashion and it just evolved. It truly comes just from a place of true interest.

Yeah, I think that's very obvious when you watch. Versus like being showy or ego or anything like that. 100%, I get that from you. And it's, people are fascinated. Like they wanna know the Tion designer stuff. Like, and I think a lot of people don't talk about it because they're worried of the feedback that they're going to get. Yeah.

And I mean, they're definitely, you know, people are going to dislike it and think that it's in poor taste or disagree with buying expensive things or judge people for it. But at the end of the day, it doesn't negatively impact anyone else besides my bank account. I'm hurting myself. I'm hurting myself more than anyone else. And I mean, that also just is with social media. You have to be able to take criticism and leave it.

Yeah. How do you handle that criticism when you get it? I think that there's different types of criticism. And I think that anyone who criticizes someone online from a burner account, user 5678, I don't care. I'm like, there's no way that I would want to trade places with you. What you think of me is none of my business.

Like, I am not being malicious in my content. I am not being hateful. Like, there is nothing fundamentally wrong. And so if you are just gonna criticize me, like, or criticize how I pronounce something, I'm like, I don't care. Like, you can have fun doing that. And I think as a content creator,

you really need to be able to accept being perceived. People will make assumptions about you. And also, it's very much take it or leave it for me. If you don't like me, that's okay. I have never been one to appeal to everyone. And it took me a long time to become confident enough to be unapologetic in myself. And so I'm not going to let random people on the internet try to tear me down. And I am very open to using the block button. Like if you are going to be rude to me,

you don't get access to me. I love that dude. Block whoever you want. I get so upset when people comment on my stuff and they're mad at me for blocking them on Instagram. I'm like, it was probably for a reason babe. No, you probably said something rude. Like you could say that you don't like my outfit.

I don't care. Not everyone has the same taste. Like that doesn't bother me. But if you're gonna actually say something genuinely rude, like my outfit. I don't care. Not everyone has the same taste. That doesn't bother me. But if you're going to actually say something genuinely rude, I'm going to block you. It's my right. It's your right. And also, I think if you want to be a full-time content

creator and have this be a big part of your life, you need to be able. I don't know if I'm just really good at dissociating, but I'm kind of like, that comment isn't for me. Yeah, absolutely. You know what I mean? That's kind of the way I process it. Totally. People make videos about other people now. Yeah. You know, that's like a huge thing on the internet. It's like using other people for clout and like saying lying about them or whatever. I mean, I get gnarly comments. I opened my TikTok

this morning and it was about, it was on one of my IVF videos and it was like, maybe this is karma. Like as in I struggled with infertility because I did something wrong. Okay. Yeah. See, people need to get a grip. How crazy. Who has the nerve to say that to someone? I'm like, how unhappy must you be that you need to project that onto someone else?

Wild behavior. And people will say, no, I'm not unhappy. I just think that you need to be brought back down to earth. But it's like, it's not your place to do so. You're a random person on the internet, you don't know me. Like that's what it comes down to. Like I'm not sharing my entire life or my entire self on the internet.

Like you don't actually know me as a human. So for people to say something like that, that's just cruel. It's crazy. I think being a content creator, you kind of realize how many really sad people are out there, honestly. I know, and I'm not here to judge, but I'm like, you don't have to write that comment.

I'm curious of what you're gonna say about this. How would you define your personal style? It is classic and for the most part, fairly tailored, but I love to add a pop or a twist to my outfit. So whether that's a fun accessory, an interesting jacket, or maybe it is pairing, like I love playing with proportions. So I love like an oversized jean with like a tighter top or showing, you know, I think,

are you familiar with the brand Tibby? Yeah, like their style principles are like, you know, you show a wrist or an ankle if you're wearing something oversized to kind of like balance everything out. And I really love that. Or like think about like the Olsen twins. They're so oversized, like they always have like a wrist out so you can like see them still.

Yeah, that was a great description. Thank you. Well, it's Allison Bornstein, her three word method. I would love to like actually get to like my true three words, but I'm not sure if you've seen her before, but she says everyone's style has three words. It could be like edgy, oversized, and minimal or something. Yeah. It's also helpful when building a closet if you truly discover your three words.

And I'm not sure exactly if mine fit me or if there are others that I should be exploring, but that helps you build a closet and build a wardrobe because it's like, does this fit my three words? I don't know what my style is. I have to be so honest. Honestly, it's trial and error too. Like I'm very much, I try to look inwards when developing my personal style versus look to like

a Pinterest or something for inspiration because I think that that can also alter your view and then you don't really know what you like, you just like what that girl wore. So true. It's always evolving. I don't even agree with things I wore two years ago. Yeah.

You know, I look back and I'm like, did I, like, was that me? No. You know what I think about sometimes, and I'm not like the most fashionable person, honestly, but when I feel really good in an outfit, I feel like a lot of times it's like something I would have picked when I was like a little girl. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? No, I think that it's inherently like in you from a young age and it either gets clouded

or you refine it or it evolves. Like I've always been in a crop top. Period. I used to wear a crop top that had Tigger on it from Winnie the Pooh. I'm obsessed. And like a baggy, baggy jean. And I used to have a chain on the jean. See and now look at you. You're just, you're in your little Miu Miu tight cardigan and your baggy park jeans. Like this is the elevated evolved version. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

I'm still trying to find my personal style. And I know a lot of girls like want to get there, but like it's tough with social media because I do feel like you see so much. It is, and I see these girls on TikTok who are super cute, but like I can tell that they're just stuck in like the micro trend cycle. And like, I like trendy things. Like I love a micro short,

but I like a micro short because it fits, I can wear it in so many ways with things that I already own and that already fit in my personal style. So it's about knowing what works for you and you don't have to take every trend. You can leave a lot of them. When do you think the micro shorts are going to be done? I don't know. I think I'm going to wear micro shorts for as long as I can.

I feel like they're never done, babe. Yeah. I've always loved super short things. The micro shorts for as long as I can. I feel like they're never done, babe. Yeah, like I've always loved super short things. Like the micro shorts are just more readily available now. Yeah, 100%. Have you gotten shit for that, for micro shorts? Oh yeah, someone commented on my TikTok literally like three days ago, like it's time to put pants on, Hannah.

You're like, actually it's not. I'm like, no, I'm sorry. I like my legs. I think you have great legs. If I were you, I would be consistently. You gotta know what works on you. 100%. I'm not a crop top girl.

You look amazing in a crop top. So if I want my legs to be out and maybe a little bit of my butt. Period. You know what? Half a cheek. That's my prerogative. I personally love you in a micro short.

Thank you. Okay. This is a question that I have and I think a lot of girls are probably curious about. What is the law of a Birkin bag? We have to talk about this. So the Birkin bag was popularized by Ms. Jane Birkin herself, kind of icon of, I don't want to misquote, like 60s, 70s. And she carried around this giant Hermes Birkin and she beat hers up. Think about Olsen Twin inspo. That's probably where they got their inspo of their super worn Birkins and Kellys. And so it was

an Hermes bag. Hermes bags are known to be made very, very well, like handmade, very precise, really, really high quality materials. So that's kind of like Hermes itself. I mean, it started as equestrian leather goods house. Like they made saddles. Yeah. Like an Hermes saddle. Like, is there anything cooler? Probably not. No, I think they're $200,000. Insane. No, it's insane. Or maybe $500,000. I will not be getting one. It's a little crazy. It's a little crazy, but like, you know, whatever. So, Hermes evolved and it became this luxury leather goods house. And I don't know when Birkins became so hard to get. I remember there was a Sex in the City episode of Samantha Jones

trying to get a Birkin. No. And she walked in and he was like, it's a five-year wait list, babe. And she was like, five years for a bag? And he goes, it's not a bag, it's a Birkin. I'm so not like that. I forget that episode. And I first found out what a Birkin was because my mom got one like years and years and years ago. Yeah.

And she returned it. She didn't like it. She was like, it's too heavy. She returned it. Did she like kick herself now? She's like, fuck. No, she like exchanged it for a Kelly. Okay, Queen.

Okay, Queen behavior. But she doesn't like a giant bag, you know, and back then, I think it was like before they were doing like the small tiny ones that they do now. Yeah. But it, they kind of just became, I don't know, sexist era was that like late 90s. So I don't know when they kind of became like this it bag, I wish I knew, but it's really evolved. And I think the TikTokification of the world is what has sent it into the stratosphere.

Like people didn't know. Yeah, like they're always hard to get. Like the Kardashians had a bunch, like it was very high profile. But I don't think people knew how you got one until TikTok. Interesting. If you weren't already in it. I wasn't sure if you were gonna say it's easier to get them now or harder.

I don't know. Okay. I feel like- Cause there's tons of fakes now on- I mean, there's so many fakes. Yeah. I'm not one to assume anything's fake, but like, I know people in my life who are like, no, I assume everything is fake. And I'm like, that's crazy. Cause like, I mean crazy because it makes sense that things, there could be a lot of fake

Birkins, Kellys, whatever out there. I don't know. I don't really think about it that hard. I don't know if it's harder or easier to get one now. There's definitely more people vying for them. People are talking about them more. I think also people think there are more than there are because of social media. People are like, Birkins are a diamond dozen. I'm like, they're really not, but we just see it so much. People are less impressed now by everything because of social media.

Like anything that is less attainable just seems more common now because you see people going to these places, you know, or you see people on like a private jet and it like feels more normal because it's all over social media but it's really still not normal. 100%. I agree with you. Like it's all over the For You page.

You kind of feel like it's more of a common experience, even if it isn't. I know. So for anyone listening who doesn't know, because I find this to be fascinating. I think I learned this probably a couple of years ago. How does one get, like talk about the process of getting an Hermes bag?

Typically you can walk into an Hermes store, maybe you meet a sales associate, hopefully you get good energy from them and you shop for a few things. And you can say to them, I would love to, you know, make a wish list or get on a list for a bag. Okay.

And like, I'd love to develop a relationship with you and continue to shop with you. And so you can kind of let them know what you're looking for. And what people say is once you've spent at least X amount of whatever that bag costs in the store on other things, because rumor has it like they don't get commission on Birkins and Kelly's like on quota bags. So like you need

to already have like a relationship where they've made commission off of you to want to offer you one. Oh, that's crazy. Again, this is all alleged. Like no one at Hermes would ever confirm or deny this because I think that it's so different per person. Yeah. Like some people can probably just walk in and get one. But speaking to most people's experience, once you've spent X dollars, they might now be ready to like, once that bag comes in, like they'll call you. And is it true that you just pretty much have to take whatever they offer you?

You don't have to. You can be like, no thanks. You can say no thank you. What if they, do they ever offer you multiple colors or are they just offering you one color? I've only bought one of my RMS bags in the store and like she just offered me one color and it happened to be black with silver hardware and I was like, duh.

Yeah, great. But I know in Paris, if you get a leather appointment, it works differently there and they can offer you multiple colors, but I don't know. When I got my Picatin, she was like, I have these colors available, but that's not a quota bag so that acts differently. But usually they won't bring up more than one at a time. So like you might say no to something, but like what if someone, a different sales associate

grabs it for someone else, then they bring you something you like less, and then it's gone now. See, I can't even reach the point of being like, hey, can I make a wish list? Cause I get too intimidated. No same, I was like really scared to say that. I was like, this is so embarrassing.

Like if someone looks at me wrong, I just leave. I get it. I get it. I get really like intimidated in shopping experiences sometimes. Anytime I go in a luxury store, I'm like, they hate me. I know. And like it always feels awkward if like you like, not that you have to buy something or there's an expectation that you buy something, but like they kind of follow you around. So awkward. Okay, I'm done. Thank you. Yeah, it's so uncomfortable. Unless someone's like so freaking nice to me. Yeah, it makes such a big difference

I have to say in any life situation But especially buying things if someone's really nice to me and like helping me so much. I'm probably gonna buy something Yeah, just cuz I'm like I feel good about myself. It's so like experience heavy I think especially if you're gonna be spending that much money I got my Kelly and Milan and like I just developed a good relationship with a sales associate there. I got really lucky with who helped me when I wanted to buy a scarf. Got her number and we just, I kept shopping with her and she shot, I had no idea I was going to get a bag the day I got a bag. It was crazy. If you've been following me for a while, you know that I live in a branch basics household.

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Like I'm not drinking like bad California wine, you know, like cupcake wine or something, you know? I'm drinking the same wine in either. Like I know, but like, I just feel better. I always laugh when people like I lose weight in Europe and I'm like, I eat so much in Europe, that would be impossible. Like I am not missing a meal. But I don't feel bad and heavy after my meals

the same way. I think the portions are also extremely different there. Yes. I don't feel so like bloated. 100%. Like if I were to eat that same meal here, it would be worse. When my acne was really bad, I would go to Europe and it would disappear. I mean, it's crazy. Insane. For so long, I was like, there's it would disappear. I mean, it's crazy. Insane. For so long, I was like, there's just no way. But it kind of just speaks for itself at some point. I'm like, how can this be that different? Bread should be bread, and it's not.

And it's not. It's the glyphosate of it all. Who knows what's going on there, but to me, it's night and day. Yeah. And I can eat big meals every night, and I don't feel bad. The one thing that makes me panic and this is like so me coded, but when I go to Italy, there's like no protein to speak of. I'm like breakfast is like a pastry or something. Yeah. Breakfast isn't really a big thing there. I feel like. No, I usually skip it when I'm in Italy. Yeah. Like it doesn't speak to

me. Is it an espresso? No, they don't. They drink espresso and smoke cigarettes all day. I was gonna say. Like it's amazing. Like they don't drink water either. It is unbelievable. Like, cause I have like people that we've built relationships with and become friends with in Milan and like they do not drink water.

Even if I'm at dinner with them, they're not drinking water. And they live longer than us. I know. And they live longer than us. And they're smoking all day. What the fuck? I'm like honestly pop off. Like I'm so happy for you.

The stress levels must be out of zero. Like literally out of zero. Yeah, nothing is serious. No, honestly pop off. Like I'm so happy for you. The stress levels must be out of zero. Like literally out of zero. Yeah, nothing is serious. No, nothing's serious. Like life's just kind of pleasurable. But like all the things I take so seriously, they don't do any of them. Yeah, and they look amazing. And they look amazing.

They feel amazing. I'm like, are you not dehydrated, babe? I know, it's crazy. Not an ounce of protein in the day. I know. The protein thing is crazy. Yeah, I'm like, I need fish. Like give me, where's my brand Zeno? Something. It's crazy. Not an ounce of protein in the day. I know. The protein thing is crazy. Yeah. I'm like, I need fish.

Like give me, where's my brand Zeno? Something. Like Greg is like panicking when we're there. He's like, what am I going to eat? I know. You guys should go to Florence and just get a bunch of bistec a Fiorentina. Oh yes. We went last year and I think we went to Siena, that little horse racing town.

Yes. Oh Chad's always wanted to go to that. Amazing. Loved it. Speaking of wellness and ingredients, you recently launched slash bought a nut milk brand. I did. Called Franxx. We did. Yes.

Franxx is iconic in Austin, guys. Like it is, you give the story, I'm not gonna say it as well, but like it's amazing. Franxx was started by a local Austin woman, she is great, Jordan, and she just started making this nut milk, it's an almond cashew blend at home, and she started distributing to coffee shops. Basically, she was doing it for years and decided

about a year ago now that she just, that it was no longer her journey. And like, I get it, running a business is really hard. It's a lot of work. So she decided to shut Franck's down and I was devastated. So a little background, for some reason, I cannot remember for the life of me how this started, but I became like a nut milk snob at some point,

like right after I graduated college. And like I found a coffee shop that did like a homemade almond milk. And I just became obsessed with this coffee shop. Yeah. Everywhere I went, I was like, I need to find a coffee shop that does a house made almond milk. Because you hate gums, correct? Yes. Guar gums, anthem gum. Yes. I'm a gum hater and like I eat everything. I mean, I eat queso like twice a week,

but I'm like no gums. That's where I dress a lot. I mean, we hate gums here too on pursuit of wellness. Yes, no gums. There's probably gums in queso, but like, it's just my weird, it's my one thing. Like I don't, it's my one non-negotiable, like it's not going in my coffee. I love that. So I discovered fronks when I went to Swedish Hill in 2020, Chad and I were visiting Austin and I was like, oh my God, this is the best nut milk I've ever had.

We ended up moving here two years later and like I would go to the meteor every day and get my fronks and I would only go to coffee shops that had fronks. I remember hearing about it when I moved here. Everyone was like so upset about fronks shutting down. Yes, it was right about when you moved here. Yeah. Yeah. I remember people talking about it. It was really upsetting to a lot of people and Chad is in the acquisition space for much different things than food and beverage,

but we partnered with the owner of the Meteor to buy Franxx. We relaunched it after a few months, and here we are, and it's back and better than ever, and we're getting into more coffee shops, we're expanding. My family is in the food space, and so it's kind of funny to like have now Chad and I kind of have our own little CPG moment, our own venture if you will. Hannah's family is

the Garrett popcorn family. So we bought Garrett popcorn like 20 years ago. So it's so funny that like now Chad and I like are now doing this other thing and it's very similar. We expanded Garrett a ton and yeah, here we are. Honestly, Greg and I were hype when you guys bought Fronks because just obviously we're in drinks, we're in powders, but watching you guys take this on is insanely exciting and just like you're at the early stages, but it's already taking off and I think it was also very strategic because you are such a prevalent Austin influencer. And I feel like you talking about it on your platform has been amazing. Everyone's posting it, everyone's tagging it.

It's at Meteor, it's at Swedish Hill. Yeah, like it's at the spots. It's at the spots and the girls are loving it. I think it's so exciting. And I hope you don't mind me saying that Chad was like literally making it himself. Oh yeah, no, Chad was in the kitchen. Like this is a hands-on, like he got his food handler, food supervisor, manager.

I don't know what it's called. Like he was like boots on the ground because he was like, this is going to be perfect. It is still like so early stages, handmade. And so like there's no room to mess up. But that just shows the care and dedication. And I think what a cool story. Like it reminds me of me and Greg at the beginning of Broom and like we were so hands-on,

we were hand packing everything and just watching you guys do this is like so exciting. And I know Franxx is gonna be huge. Yeah, so we're really excited. We don't know, you know, where it's gonna take us, but it's just, Chad was like, if anything, I was able to have coffee with my wife again. I'm like, tender. No guys, Chad, Chad makes like, if anything, I was able to have coffee with my wife again. And like, tender.

No guys, Chad, Chad makes a tear come to my eye. Like he really does. He's like the best human. The story is wild. Like him buying this nut milk company with you and, I don't know. I see this at a newspaper one day and I'm just so excited about it.

Like- One manifesting. Yeah, the story of it all. Let's do a Q and A. Let's do it. Oh, I can't wait. Will we ever find the Tom Ford dupe of our dreams? Oh my God. Okay, so for those who don't know,

I'm obsessed with this one Tom Ford eyeshadow and they discontinued it and I've been looking and it kind of became a viral series on accident on TikTok. Yeah. Even if I have to make it, I hope we will. You're gonna make it? I don't know. Not the Franxx eyeshadow. The Franxx. No, like let's not get ahead of ourselves. Yeah. Even if I have to make it, I hope we will. You're going to make it? I don't know.

Not the Franxx eye shadow. The Franxx eye shadow. No, like let's not get ahead of ourselves. I think developing makeup is like a whole thing. It's really, it's very challenging actually. I don't know if we're ever going to find the do. There have been ones that are close, but like nothing I would truly like endorse with my whole chest.

Get it if she doesn't want to answer, but what work has she had done? Her face card is lethal. Oh my God, thank you. God damn, they said. Is that what GD stands for? Yeah. This is so annoying. I mean, Botox, I had under eye filler, I got it dissolved.

I don't love, my under eyes are quite hollow. I did PRF a couple of times, I don't think it works. Have you heard of CO2? Yes. I'd like to do that one day. Isn't think it works. Have you heard of CO2? Yes. I'd like to do that one day. Isn't that really intense? Like people do the CO2 laser like when they get their eyes done, like it's a whole, like you do it

on your anesthesia. You have a new face. This is annoying, but like I think my bone structure is just quite like sharp. Like, I don't know. Ha ha ha ha. I swear to God, like I would tell you guys, like if I had like filler all over my face. So you don't have a nose job.

Oh, I do not have a nose job. That is the most frequently asked question. That's why I asked everyone. Thank you. She gets asked in public too, guys. Yeah. Like we've been sitting at Swedish Hill and someone will come up and be like,

where did you get your nose done? And I'm like, can you believe people ask people that? I know, but like I take it as a compliment, but people don't believe me. And I'm like, like my mom has the same nose as I do. Maybe you need to do like what Kim did with her butt and get like a sonogram of your face and show that it's like real cartilage.

I should. That would be hilarious for a TikTok. Oh, I have some lip filler. But the girl who does my Botox here in Austin, she was like, if you get anything done to your face within five days, that's your new face to your brain. Yes. So that's how people just overdo it because they just keep like thinking that

they need more and more because they get so used to what they look like. I had a plastic surgeon on the show and he talked about that. It's called like something dysmorphia. I mean, I'm sure, but I am not anti-plastic surgery. I will get a facelift one day, you know, when I need it. I'm not opposed, but I do think that my face has thinned out a lot in the past few years. Like, I've aged. But like, aged in a good way, honestly.

Like, I look back at like three years ago and I like almost looked like puffy. I feel the same way about myself. Yeah. We probably weren't taking care of ourselves. No, I was. Like, I've definitely like become a healthier person since then. Yeah, like our cortisol is probably really high. But I do think that it's a lot of just, I mean, aging's not sexy, but don't get buckle fat removal.

Mmm. That's one thing that I've been accused of getting. And I'm like, no, my face just got thinner. Like, isn't that when you remove the cheek fat? Yeah, it's like in here somewhere. But you need all the fat you can get as you get older. Mm-hmm. I feel like when we're young, we want to take it out, but we'll be glad that we didn't.

She recently said she wished she could style T. Swift. How would she do so? Outfit wrecks, et cetera. Oh my God. Okay. So I am the biggest Swifty. I love Taylor. I just don't agree with a lot of her fashion choices.

No hate, no shade. Everyone has different personal style. I think Taylor does really well when she's wearing something more simple. Taylor's five, like she is a model. I want to dress her like how Rosie Huntington Whiteley dresses. Oh, yes, I love how she dresses.

Same, like if I had to choose one style in Spill, like that would be her. And I just think that Taylor has like the structure, the body, she's beautiful. Like she just, I think she kind of structure, the body, she's beautiful. Like she just, I think she kind of overdoes it. Like there's a lot of patterns happening sometimes, like chunky shoes.

And I think that I don't want to, you know, dismiss maybe what she truly likes, but I think her silhouettes could just be like a little bit more refined. Or like maybe you have like a sculpted shoulder, but then everything else is quite slim fitting or just like her proportions are sometimes off to me. So I think that Rosie is a really good style muse for her. Well answered. Thank you. Perhaps this is ignorant coming from someone who

isn't quote unquote, Swifty. Is the red lipstick a part of the look? Yeah, that's just like her thing. I don't love it. It's very specific and I think that there are moments for red lipstick, but you don't always need a red lip. I think that her makeup looked really good. Was it the VMAs this year? She was wearing like this red and yellow or sorry, yellow and black checkered outfit and she was a little bit more like smoky eye and a nude lip and she looked so good.

Okay, I have to go look at that. I don't like red lipstick. I never have. It's not for me personally. I haven't done it in so long. I think I've done it once in my life. Wedding tips for bride leading up to and day of emotional and logistical. LOL, I'm 30 days out.

Emotional, I return to just do whatever you can to chill out. Lean on people who you trust, whether it's your planner, whether it's your mom, a best friend made of honor, whatever. Delegate so that you aren't stressing out about things to do. People want to help. Logistically, outfit-wise, maybe you

get garment bags for each outfit and put your shoes in your handbag, in the base of the garment bag. Just get everything hyper organized. Get your future partner hyper organized. They're a man. They're not going to be able to... I don't even know what goes on, what men do the day of the wedding. I'm like, make sure they have everything. Become as organized as possible. Write down lists so that you don't forget anything. Give your friends those lists so that maybe there's backup of things that you might need. But you can only control

what you can control. Take advantage of those things. I think that's such good advice. Another wedding question. I hate public need, but you can only control what you can control. Take advantage of those things. I think that's such good advice. Another wedding question, I hate public speaking, but agreed to do my vows in front of everyone. What tips do you have? We did our vows in front of everyone. You're not paying attention to anyone but your partner. You have to just face, Chad and I held hands and looked at each other at the entire ceremony. We weren't looking at our officiant. We weren't looking at our officiant. We weren't looking at everyone in the crowd. Like you just have to kind of like dissociate a little bit

and compartmentalize. Which you probably will. You will, like you are gonna be like, so many emotions, like think of it as just talking to your partner. You don't just shout your vows, like just speak normally and literally just ignore all the noise. You don't have to put on a show. And everyone wants you to do well. Like no one's like praying on your vows, like just speak normally and literally just ignore all the noise. You don't have to put on a show.

And everyone wants you to do well, like no one's like praying on your downfalls, your wedding. Yeah, it's such a special moment. I did mine privately actually. So did my sister, like they did like normal vows at their ceremony and then they did private vows. Cute. So also if you wanna do that,

you can do that and it's still special. For someone who maybe doesn't have the biggest budget, but wants to splurge on one designer item like a bag, what would you recommend? I think you need to look at what fits into your lifestyle the most. Is that a bigger bag? Is it a smaller bag? Something day to night? Because you obviously want to get good use out of it.

And then I think that your next step is finding something that isn't so trendy right now. Love that. Not too logo heavy, not too hardware heavy. You know, like, chains had a moment a few years ago. Like, don't focus so much on what the it bag is. Focus on something that's, like, really nicely made. Like, I think a logo-less Bottega bag is a really nice place to start. I think the Andiamo, which has a little, like, bow thing on it,

is quite classic, but it's also very trendy. So like really think, do I only like this bag because I see it all the time or do I love this bag? The Row makes amazing bags that are very, you know, quiet luxury, if you will. Yeah, and they're timeless. Or, you know, if you really want to splurge, like, yeah, like a Chanel flat bag is like classic, but do I think it's way too expensive now? Yes. They're crazy. It's getting out of control. Yeah. I love Chanel. That's probably my go-to. I love it, but I just, I can't believe how expensive, it's a Birkin now.

Basically. What made you want to get into the family business? Towards the end of my time at Goldman, it was 2021. I had been promoted, but I was still working my ass off. And I was just like, is this really what I want to do forever? And so I was deciding, do I want to just leave the industry? Do I want to do finance somewhere else? For a moment, I thought, oh, do I want to go to business school? I just didn't really know. And I was back in the office. No one else was back in the office, but in finance you had to be. And I just was getting so burned out. I kind of, when I make a decision, I usually like act on that decision pretty quickly.

Like I'm very sure of my choices. And I was like, you know what, like I'm done. And so I basically like sat my dad down for a meeting and I was like, I think I can bring this value to Garrett. Like I'm working in a strategic role. I think I can bring this value to Garrett. Like, I'm working in a strategic role. I think I can bring a corporate strategy view and lens, like a bigger business lens to the company. We decided on a few projects that I would work on

to get the ball rolling. And so I never thought that I would work for the family business, but it just worked out that way. And I love it. And it's really nice working somewhere that you have a true vested interest in. Yeah. You feel connected. Yeah. Like I'm connected. I grew up with around this brand and I know the brand and I share like a vision for it with my family. And I think that that like

has made the experience really special and my role has evolved now since joining. Is it more influencer focused now? Well, Brett does all the social media, but I do like our e-commerce site is what I run now. And I still do like a lot of strategic projects, but e-commerce is really where my main focus is. It's probably also a great experience for Franxx, right? Yeah. Yeah, just like seeing how a brand operates. Skincare and beauty must haves.

Beauty wise, I think that if I were to choose one beauty brand, I have so many that I love, but SAE is just such a favorite of mine. I think you can get a really great everyday routine. I would say my daytime routine is a lot of SAE products and Westman Atelier products. I would say that if I had to choose a few must-haves, the SAE Glowy Super Gel in the Sun Glow shade with the SA say, Slip Tint. That's their tinted moisturizer.

That combo is amazing. I love blush. I really like the Rode blushes. Yeah, they're great. I think they're really good. Victoria Beckham Beauty is amazing. Her brow products are fabulous. Those are probably my favorites.

Oh, I'm also really into the Make Up Forever Wherever Walnut lip liner. It's my current go-to lip liner. And then the House Labs Lip Gloss is really nice. I did a get ready with me today and every single product I used was your recommendation. Oh, thank you. Sace Lip Tint, Bobby Brown Vitamin-Based, whatever. Oh, the Bobby Brown Face Base is really good.

House Labs is also really good. If you need a full glam, House Labs foundation's amazing. Fabulous, 100%. And it's acne safe. Yeah. Has like things niacinamide, isn't it? Like it's good for you. Yeah, skincare wise, In Beauty Extreme Cream is my favorite moisturizer.

Wearing a mineral sunscreen every day, I don't care what brand, just wear sunscreen. I like mineral better than chemical. It's pricey, but I'm really into the Dr. Diamond's medicine like growth factor line. A vitamin C serum is great. Retinol if you can tolerate it. Love the Codily Vino Perfect if you can't tolerate vitamin C.

Huh, okay. I have a couple eye creams I like, but if you're dealing with eye bags, they're just there. I like the Jouer. Have you tried the eye masks, the gold ones that I wear? No, those are the ones you wear though, right? Obsessed. Okay.

They're so juicy. Must try. We have two voice messages. Wait, I? Obsessed. Okay. They're so juicy. I'll add it to my must try. We have two voice messages. Wait, I can't wait. This first one is from Charlotte. Hi Charlotte. Hey Mari and Hannah. So I have a business related question for Hannah.

I am a wedding photographer based in the UK and it's such a saturated industry. I'm just wondering what are your tips for standing out in a really saturated industry? Love you lots, thank you, bye. It's really hard because wedding photography is so saturated. Yeah.

I think you really need to find your, maybe you already have found your style, but really showcase your style on social media and be really intentional with the pictures that you're posting so that your style on social media and be really intentional with the pictures that you're posting so that your style and aesthetic is like super conveyed because my photographer that I ended up using, like I had known who she was for a few years and she was in the back of my mind, but I was still looking at others and it was all based off Instagram feed. And so make sure it really reflects like not only different types of weddings,

but weddings that really align with your style. Because, like, maybe you photograph a wedding that you don't stylistically agree with some of their design choices for their wedding, but maybe you have other shots that are, like, really cool from that wedding. Because I would come across some photographers, and it was, like, a lot of, like, very, like,

preppy blue and white East Coast weddings, and, like, that just wasn't my vibe. And so even though that photographer could have been incredibly talented, it just kind of turned me off. And I also think you need to put as much info as you can for search optimization in your captions in your bio, like upload your pictures to Pinterest and have them link back to your Instagram. Yeah, brides are always on Pinterest and see if like your past brides, like make sure they are tagging you. Like have a rule in your contract that they have to tag you or mention you in the caption. This is such good advice. Wow. Just to get your name out there more. I 100% agree. And

submit some of your work to publications. I mean, there's so many, there's a really cool, the bridal journey in Australia is really cool. Like, you know, try to submit some of your work to the bridal inspo pages as well and see if they'll feature. And I also feel like similar to what you said, the people getting married now are younger, obviously. They're probably on TikTok, they're looking on, I mean, people own, if you're not on social media, you don't exist.

Like, sorry, if you're a business, like you need to have a presence on social media. Absolutely. And I feel like maybe hopping on some of these trends where people are like, you know, like you're doing a montage of photos to a trending song or whatever, like people look at that stuff. 100%. That's a really good point. Like doing like POV, I'm your wedding photographer, and then it's like a ton of like super in super quick succession, like amazing photos that you've taken. Yeah. like super in super quick succession, like amazing photos that you've taken. Or like people love to listen to an expert on TikTok. I feel like when I'm giving like advice on something

or a perspective, like those videos always do well. So like you open it, you're like, I'm a destination wedding photographer, or like, you know, whatever you want to call yourself. And then speak to it, be like, these are the shots that you should always ask for. Or like, if you want effortless, cool editorial shots at your wedding, like this is what you're going

to tell your photographer. Yeah, like do a green screen moment and talk about different things. Green screen, yes. And like have your Instagram handle like in the caption, watermarked on the, you know. Great advice. Oh my God. Likewise. Charlotte, you're going to do amazing.

Grace. Hi Grace. Hi Hannah and Mari. This is a question for Hannah. I'm a huge fan of your style. I am a business owner with quite a limited budget when it comes to buying clothing and jewelry. I'm just wondering if you have any tips for someone who wants to start investing in a really high quality wardrobe. What pieces would you start with and what brands would you look to?

Would you go for vintage luxury handbags? I have a couple of those, or maybe a piece of specific gold jewelry that can elevate your everyday look. What kind of things would you invest in if you were on a limited budget and you wanted to develop a luxury style like you have? Thanks so much, and I'm excited to hear your answer.

Okay, so I think that you need to start with just building out, I hate to use the term capsule wardrobe, but it really is a capsule wardrobe and pieces that you can wear in different ways. So one or two pairs of great jeans that fit you nicely. And you need to think to your body type, is that a high-rise jean? Is it a low-rise jean?

What suits you best? And a great pair of trousers. And get things tailored. They don't need to be expensive, but if you go and you get it tailored, they can look really, really expensive. I think Zara is such a good place to buy basics. Don't count Zara out. Banana Republic is killing it right now

from more of that staple luxury lens. And I think that you just need to buy a few things that you can mix and match and create a uniform for yourself. Really great shirt, a good sweater, a blazer, a few good pairs of pants, like maybe like a really sleek, elegant, like midi dress that's black that you can wear day to night. Just a few really staple things that you don't have to think too much about when you're putting outfits together.

You just like don't want to go crazy. You don't need to get anything super colorful, super patterned if you're trying to build out a luxury wardrobe. Making sure that things are fitting exactly how you want them, not being afraid to go to the tailor, and then utilizing websites like the RealReal if you have specific things in mind.

I've gotten a pair of brand new boots, and they said they were just in good condition and they literally had like the sticker from the store on the bottom still, like it was crazy. So I think that if you have specific items in mind like looking to those markets, and then as far as jewelry goes, I don't think people notice your jewelry like all that much.

I think having like a nice statement earring in your arsenal is a nice touch, like a good gold earring or a good two-tone gold and silver earring that you can wear with everything. I think people aren't going to notice your earring more than anything, like jeans, a white tee that isn't too oversized, like a good thicker white cotton tee, and like a statement earring is like super chic. Don't overthink it. Hannah, I feel like we went all over the map. I know, we covered it all. Can you tell everyone where they can find you

on Instagram, TikTok, where can they get Franxx? I am at Hannah Chode on Instagram and TikTok at Hannah underscore Chode on YouTube. Franxx is at Fresh Franxx and we're available all over Austin. We have a location in Dallas right now at the Meteor, but we are expanding. We have a little find us highlight on our Instagram where you can see all the tea. And if you live in the Austin area, we deliver on farmhouse

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