Pursuit of Wellness - GIRL CHAT: No Filter w/ Fi: GLP-1s, Motherhood & the Hard Conversations

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

Fi is back for the first time in nearly a year, and this episode feels like the best kind of best-friend catch-up — nothing off limits. Fi gets fully honest about going off her GLP-1 medication, thi...nking she'd cracked the code, only to have the food noise come back full force and gain everything back in two months flat. She breaks down what she did wrong the first time, what Oprah's book Enough shifted for her, and how she's approaching round two differently. Mari opens up about an emotional spiral she had the day before recording — staring at Cai and being blindsided by grief and anger about her own childhood — and the two get into one of the most raw conversations the show has had about parenthood, the past, and what it means to protect your kid the way you wished someone had protected you. They also finally tell the real story of their friendship — the codependency, the hard conversation, the awkward in-between — plus Fi's booming real estate career, her baseball player boyfriend who actually shows up, CO2 laser updates, internet mom-shamers, and one nap they catastrophically destroyed together. _____ Leave Me a Message -⁠ click here!⁠ For Mari’s Instagram⁠ click here!⁠ For Pursuit of Wellness Podcast’s Instagram⁠ click here!⁠ For Mari’s Newsletter⁠ click here!⁠ For Mari’s TikTok⁠ click here! To work with Fi click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, Fee, welcome back to the show. Thank you. How's Fee's O-ZMPIC journey going? I was feeling so good. And I was just like, I think I can go off of it. So I went off of it. And oh my God. The food noise came back.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Like, I can't even describe. Have you seen that viral video, the girl that said the 160 thing? Act your weight. I'm over 160. I look lean, dude. Fee came over to help me with Kai, which she's been doing so much and I'm so grateful. He's a very smiley baby.
Starting point is 00:00:30 smiles at everyone. I'm like, Kai, we're in a bad mood today. And he's like, he's just the joy of my whole life. Everyone's asking how our friendship has evolved since leaving Bloom and me becoming a mom. I'll be honest. This is the Pursuit of Wellness podcast, and I'm your host, Mari Lawellan. Did you listen to Kylie yet? I have not watched the whole episode, but I have been tuning in on TikTok. I'm 15 minutes in. I'm obsessed with Kylie. I want to be her best friend. Oh, she's such a girl. She needed to do this sooner. I know. Because I think she's She's just been like unapproachable, just from social and like the way she came off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:08 And now I'm obsessed. She is like, this is what Jake Shane said on the interview. He was like, you are like the prettiest, most popular girl in school that we're all kind of intimidated of. But when we talk to you, you're like, I love your, love your skirt. Yeah. But like actually mean it. She called Jake sexy. She was like, you're a thirst trap.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I'm obsessed. Yeah. You saw that? Like, that would have been my reaction. She makes me wonder what else Kylie Jenner. on Instagram. I'm wondering if she's had a bloom. She definitely has. She has definitely seen a photo of you. That's crazy. Like I can confirm that. Like for sure. But I feel like she's, I feel like she's had an energy drink. Yeah, probably. Or at least, because we've worked with stars. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And she definitely drinks them, I'm sure. Yeah. I'm obsessed. She is like, if I could give someone a bloom, she would be my first choice. I said this in a meeting the other day. I was like, I need Kylie. I think you could get her. I think she just crossed the boundary from untouchable celebrity to like a girl's girl influencer who we can all kind of like, like we feel like we're friends with her. Yeah. That's why I felt listening even to the little clips. I love her. I really want to be her friend.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Okay, Fee, welcome back to the show. Thank you. I don't think I've been on in like a year. No, I mean, I've barely been on in a year. Like, was the last time I came on my issue? your vagina issue? Yeah. That was last June.
Starting point is 00:02:33 That was literally almost a year ago. That was... We are fully recovered from that. Guys, if you haven't listened to that episode, please go back. That was the craziest thing that's ever happened to you. Yeah. Barthel insists is no joke. But she's gone.
Starting point is 00:02:45 She never came back. But let it be known. I actually did my first spin class again last weekend because I kind of thought... I read that spin can kind of like irritate things down there. Do you think that was the reason you got it? No. I think there were other reasons. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:00 We don't have to. go into this. But I think there were other reasons. But I do think the spin like irritated it a little bit and I was doing it a lot. But I spun the other day and I was totally fine. I spun. I spun. Okay. And the whole impetus of Fee being on the show today is so classic of where I'm at in my life right now because I'm just kind of in a disarray in general. But Fee came over to help me with Kai, which she's been doing so much and I'm so grateful. Like obsessed with her baby. Fee is loves babies. Ever since I met Fee, she's been like I'm ready to be pregnant immediately. She loves babies. She's so good with him. She is quite literally the only person that I like, this is horrible for me to say, but like the only person I really trust other than my nanny. Thank you. To have guy.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I'm honest. Like Fee puts him down for nap. She gives him bottles. She burps him. Like, you do the hard. Well, I ask. I'll like be at Marys and she'd be like, and I'm like, no, I want to do it. She's a grief show.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I'm like, no, I want to do it. She does the stuff that isn't fun. And I'm like, are you sure? I told her I'm like, cosplaying as a mom right now. Until I can be a mom. Has Kai on her hip and it's like walking around. But it's really cute because you and I have like spoken about Kai in a way forever, like since we met. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I still look at him and I can't believe. Can't believe. He came out of you. Can't believe. Like I can't fathom that. But he also looks just like me now. Yeah. He's getting more and more like me.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Also, wait, guys, look. Yeah, you have to show. If you're watching on video, my friend Taylor made this this morning. Taylor made it. Taylor made it. It is so spot on. Can we like zoom in on this? Kai is Daniel Craig.
Starting point is 00:04:30 If you really... Okay, so... He really is. My dad, when he was younger, like, looked like Daniel Craig. Times Colin Firth. I think he still resembles him. Yeah. I see it.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I definitely see it. Because I always say Kai looks a lot like your dad. When he, like, smirks and smiles. I'm like, oh, my, I see your dad. I know. Don't tell him that. I mean, he'll never listen to this. So we have no...
Starting point is 00:04:52 We don't have to worry about that. My favorite thing Kai does, you guys. I don't think I've said this to you. Tell me, he won't. He will have his passion, and he'll... smiles like around his passy. I know. And it makes my ovaries explode.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I see it in my fate. And then like sometimes his pasty falls out because he smiles so big. And it's the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life. He's a very smiley baby. He is smiles at everyone. We went to an art gallery the other day. Literally smiling at all the women, like just like a little ham at the coffee shop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:20 He's a flirt. Yeah. And I like wasn't in the mood to talk to anyone. And he's like. And then he smiles at everyone in Marry's like. I'm like, Kai, we're in a bad mood today. And he's like. Not the vibe.
Starting point is 00:05:29 You'd think he was like a Leo or something. So. What is his sign? Sagittarius. Oh. They're very go with the flow. I don't know much about sags. Like go with the flow, easy going, like not up tight, which is good for me.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I know I've only seen portions of it. But from what I've been around, he is a very happy baby. Super happy. He does escalate very quickly. Like if he's hungry, you're going to freaking know about it. There's just the joy of my whole life. I mean. But I've just, I know, I know some babies can be like.
Starting point is 00:05:59 really like have colic, like, you know, be like really colicky and just cry a lot out when he was like, oh, oh, what's his little tongue thing? You're right. Tong thing. And he was like, the gas was pretty extreme. Been there. I know. But like, once we got past that, I was like, wow, this is amazing. But now he's so happy.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I'm honestly blessed that we went through that at the beginning because it has made everything feel so much easier from there. By the, oh my God, Fee. The nap yesterday that we screwed up. Oopsie. The worst night of his life. Really? It just. But he went about six.
Starting point is 00:06:29 No fee. We fucked everything up. Oh no. It's okay. Yami was so pissed me. He didn't go to sleep that late. So because we were, this is how crazy it is. Why did he wake up when he woke up from that nap? Because we were late on the nap. He should have been asleep at 2.30. Oh, and it was like three. Yeah. So we fucked that up. He woke up early.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Wouldn't nap. He was supposed to sit down for two hours. And then the whole night was destroyed. I was like, what are we going to do in Europe? First you texted me and you were like, he's great. He went to bed at six. I was like, oh, perfect. No. Okay. Well. No. Oops. Oops. Our bad. I know. We put him down and then we went back in and like he was just literally smiling. We both tried for 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And like I was like bouncing him and he's just smiling at me and I'm like trying not to make eye contact with him. So he like doesn't engage but he's just smiling. It's okay. We tried our best. So what's the update with you? Like we literally walked in the office and fees like wheeling and dealing on the phone. I was on a call with a mortgage lender. What?
Starting point is 00:07:22 Oh my God. I have a house under contract right now and I just had the inspection yesterday and it all came back. Very good. Probably one of the shortest inspections I've ever had, which is, like, the best. But a couple little things we're going to address with an amendment. And then hopefully get out of option and close it. You're such a natural. It's been so fun. Like, real estate, it's definitely like a roller coaster, lots of ups and downs. There are periods where, like, I feel like I have nothing going on and I'm doubting myself. And, like, why did I think this was a good idea? And then there's times where, like, I have a million people, like, reaching out and things happening. So you kind of just have to ride the waves and know that, like, one of you're out of love. Yeah, it'll come back. But it's just been so fun, like getting to know all my clients and meet new people. And, like, I mean, you know me, but like, I've literally become friends with all my clients. I'm sure. But that's, like, have movie nights with them and, like, hang out with them and go to coffee and workouts with them.
Starting point is 00:08:12 But that's kind of the tea, I think. It's so fun. With real estate. Yeah, you just, and, like, you get to meet people that, like, normally maybe you would never come in contact with. And I don't know. I just, it's so fulfilling to me. Like, the family right now that we have under contract, they just had a baby. Kind of the same time as Kai.
Starting point is 00:08:28 like two weeks before. And they're just the sweetest couple. And like getting to help them find a home that like they get to raise their baby in for the next couple years. It's just like. But that's like your talent is like being this super friendly like. Thank you. You're warm. You make friends easily.
Starting point is 00:08:44 You're good at networking and connecting. Like it really is all your talents in one. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. I had never considered real estate like really ever. And then once I got into it, it's like been like, well, I can't believe I didn't do this sooner. kind of thing. It's fun to watch you doing it. It really is. You're crushing it. You're so sweet. Yeah. But yeah, it's been fun. So I've been doing that. What else have I been doing?
Starting point is 00:09:09 Oh my gosh, I have some GLP updates. I want to know, like, what were they asking about? Because you did a little Q&A box. Do you want me to pull up the Q&A? Yeah. Let's just dive in. Let's just see. And I'm sure updates will come. But yeah, I have had a whole experience with GLPs. Since I was on last. Let's talk about that for sure. Because that's been interesting. Oh, yeah, how's Fee's OZMPIC journey going? Okay. That was like the top question. To dive in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I actually have gotten a bunch of DMs like in the last couple of months being like, are you still on it? What are you doing? So I had been on it for like a year and a half up until December of last year. And then I was feeling so good. I was like, I feel like I've like gotten in a rhythm. I had maintained a certain weight for months like for like a year. And I was just like, I think I can go off of it.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Like in my head I was like I feel like my food noise is gone. I feel like probably like my stomach shrunk so I probably won't be like binging and overeating. So I went off of it and oh my God. The food noise came back with a vengeance. Like I can't even describe the hundred that I felt. And just to be like I don't want to get into like numbers necessarily. But like I basically gained back what I had lost over like a year and a half in two and a half months. Yeah. Which is insane.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. Which also proved to me that like there's other stuff going on than just because I was working out more than I had been the whole time I was on it at this point. I had gotten back into weightlifting. I was working out. I was doing Pilates twice a week. I was meal prepping. And yet all this weight came back on that I was doing the exact same thing on it, if not less and was not getting weight. And now now you're addressing like the gut issues.
Starting point is 00:10:58 that you think you have. Yes. I finally like got looked into, I finally went to a gastro, which like I've been talking to Mari about literally ever since I met you that I have had tummy issues. Yeah. So finally did that.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Got a ultrasound the other day, waiting for those results. I did a SIBO test. Yeah, I did a SIBO test. That all came back negative, which is good. Glad I like don't have SIBO. I always thought you had SIBO.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Me too, but no SIBO. You used to like drink this gross drink and sit and breathe. It was like a CBO breath test. I don't know. That's like the preliminary test of it. But that came back negative. So did you feel like, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:31 When you were on the GLP one before, you were, I feel like you're doing this journey differently. Like what did you realize from that to now and what are you doing differently? Definitely. That first time around, I think I, it was just like the first time I had really experienced not having food noise. And I think I may have dug into that a little too strong. Yeah. Was definitely not eating enough. wasn't working out enough.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I definitely lost quite a bit of muscle. I experienced a bunch of hair loss, which, like, that is so common. I see it everywhere now. Girls just, like, like, I had hair coming out in clums. Which, speaking of, I am wearing extensions for the first time. They're so beautiful. They're clippins, you guys. No one would have known.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I call them my Mormon wives Clippins. Yeah, you look like a Utah girlie. But I'm trying to, I've really been on, like, a hair health journey since all that, using, like, serums and, like, just really try to take better care of my hair. I'm on that journey too. You know, like, my hair was like a big part of my identity. Yeah. It's. And I was like, how is it? Like, of course, like I, like, you know, lose weight and like, finally feel like I'm like, you know, fitting better in my clothes and stuff and then like I'm going bald. I'm like, okay, you can't have both. But to be fair, yes. I think you just weren't eating enough. Yeah. I was definitely not eating enough in general. I think if you were eating more,
Starting point is 00:12:47 that wouldn't have happened. And protein and all that. So, learn my lesson that time around. All this to say, I actually met with my doctor this time around and talked to her. And in between this, I read this book and I actually have this little excerpt from it because I was like, I need to share about this. So in between when I went off of it and was trying for like the two and a half months to just get it under control myself, I listened to this audio book. I actually saw it on the shelf at Target and I was like, what's that? It's called Enough, Your Health, Your Health, Your Weight, and what it is like to be free. And it's by Oprah and it's co-authored by this Yale obesity expert, Dr. Anya. Oprah's an advocate for GOP1.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Yes. Yeah. Well, like, if you look at Oprah over the last 30 years, her whole, like, on magazine covers, it was like, she's losing 60. She's gained it. She's losing. And she, like, and she, like, my whole life has just been, like, for the world to see, like, weight losses and weight gains. And it has felt so out of my control. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:45 But this Dr. Anya, I don't want to say her anymore, but Jastraboth. And the book frames obesity as a treatable disease rather than a personal failure or lack of willpower. And it explains how modern medications can reduce intrusive food noise and lower your brain's set point to achieve lasting health. Yeah. Which the whole book basically, it like gave me the knowledge and also just like less. I think it was like willpower. I always thought it was willpower. And I always thought I just wasn't strong enough and that I was like, we.
Starting point is 00:14:19 and that I couldn't stick to something long enough. Meanwhile, I'm very type A. Yeah, you see me. Like, if I say I'm going to do something, I will do it. That's true. But this was the one area of my life that, like, I felt so out of control, and it was so frustrating. And it makes you, anyone that's dealt with, like, weight gain and stuff through their
Starting point is 00:14:40 life, like, or whatever, just dealing with food, you know, food noise and image issues, it is so. consuming? Yes, all consuming, but it also just really makes you, like, doubt yourself. You like start to feel like you're going crazy. Yeah. And you're like, what am I doing wrong? When you're working hard and doing all the things. I feel like I'm doing everything right. And I had times where I worked with trainers and got super drastic and like macro counted everything and did hours. Remember when I used to go to the gym twice a day? Yeah. When we lived in LA, I was at Golds. I was lifting in the morning. I was doing 45 minutes of stair step or a night. And yeah, I saw results, but like I was killing myself in the gym. And that's not sustainable.
Starting point is 00:15:18 like at least for me. And so all that to say, this book kind of just gave me, like, it took a weight off my shoulders. Yeah. And I was like, oh, like, it's not in my control. Yeah, yeah. Which is hard for me because I do feel like I like to take responsibility for myself and my actions. You do. And I see, you know, I've seen other kind of like wellness people online or TikToks and stuff and they're just like, you want to lose weight, just like put down the fork.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Like, you're just eating too much and like hit. the gym. Like, have you seen that viral video, the girl? That's the 160 thing. Act your weight. I'm over 160. I'm over 160. I'm over 160. I'm like, dude. That's lean for me. 160 is actually my like really good goal. That's my goal right now. I look great and I'm healthy and I have hair on my head. So same to you. That was crazy. By the way, it's good that we say that. Yeah. I don't think people realize. Yeah. I'm 510. Yeah. You're what? Five nine? Yeah. Like we're tall. We're not like itsy bitsy. gals. And we're women. We have a body, like, we're not little teenage girls anymore that weigh, like, and no shame. Again, if you weigh that much, like, if you have muscle and you lift weights,
Starting point is 00:16:27 you weigh more. Yeah. But everyone's body's just different. And like, I love how I look at 160. That's actually currently the goal. I love it. Yeah. I love it. And that girl said you, you know, should hit the gym. She's like, get back on the treadmill. I was like, this effing idiot. Seriously. I should, I should do a stitch to that. I know. I saw Kendall in one. I've seen a bunch, Kelly Matthews. I've seen a bunch of people respond. should I should be like, I should just post a video of myself and be like, I'm, you should do like, you should bring it back like an old transformation photo and be like, that's me at 160. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Like the one where you're in the pink bikini on the beach in Hawaii. I was 160 and you're in that photo. Yeah. And I'm jacked. I was a six pack. Yeah. Or Cabo. They keep Cabo picking like the purple and orange bikini.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Not me knowing like every item, Mario owns because I picked it all. And we were at Gold's gym for. Oh my God. Yeah. So, yeah. So that, that has been my whole journey with that. So what are you doing? Now.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Okay. So, yes. So I met with my doctor. And actually, the first thing I said to her, I was like, I was on a GLP through like a, not a med smell, like a wellness practice here, but not my actual doctor. And then I had gotten one online. And I said, look, like, what is your philosophy around weight loss and, like, using these? And I didn't say anything how I felt. I was just like, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:17:45 And she was like, it's like a lifelong tool. Like you can't just get on it and get, like, lose the weight and then get off. of it like it you have to stay on it and I was like thank you because I felt like everyone else I had met with was like you'll lose the weight and use that as a tool and then make healthier life choices and then keep it off which for some people that might be the case but like you you were I've watched you work your face off yeah to get lean and it was still a struggle for you yeah yeah and like you know I have friends who dabbled in it and lost seven to 10 pounds like before their wedding yeah and they naturally just are leaner people
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah. And yeah, I get it. And like, when I would talk about food noise to them and they're like, what do you mean? I'm like, you don't wake up thinking about what you're going to eat and then your next meal and your next meal and go to sleep thinking about what you're going to eat. Like, what do you mean? And they're like, the only time I ever felt like that was when I was dieting too much. And I'm when you're restricting. Yeah. But I'm one of those people that I don't think has food noise. Yeah. But I can relate in some way. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Like when you, when you restrict too much, you're obviously going to have food. Your body's like screaming for food. It's because of hungry, you know. But. I think beyond that, like, you know, it definitely runs in my family. Like, it's just a thing. It's been my whole life. My whole life I've fixated on food. It's been, like, a crutch for me. And I'm lucky, you know, I've never really, like, gotten an issue with drinking or anything like that. But food for me is a drug.
Starting point is 00:19:06 And, unfortunately, you can't not eat food to live. You have to eat food. So I met with my doctor, went through it all. I got back on. I'm actually trying Treseptitide, a compounded treseptit this time. You know, have to pay out a pocket. it, but to me, it's worth it? And less.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yes. Yeah, yeah. Nice. I started, yeah, I've started really low. I just upped my dose for the first time that I'm like kind of actually starting to feel it again. But, you know, I was with Mari yesterday and I was saying, like, I know I need to be eating. And like, I packed hard boiled eggs to her house. And like, anytime I can just try to get protein, like if I am slightly hungry, like, I'm going to go for protein first.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah. Even if it's like a literally like a bowl of ground beef or turkey or something. I'm just trying to do that versus less. You're being very intentional. I would be like eat a piece of sourdough bread. Yeah. And be like, um, foams. An uncrustable.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I do still love my uncrustibles and I really need to work on that because that has been. I've never had an uncrustable and I don't understand what they are. It's an addiction at this point. I'm like fully addicted. When you buy those fee? AGB. Amazon. AGB or Target anywhere, like a grocery store.
Starting point is 00:20:11 They have high protein versions now. Yeah. And my favorite one, me and my boyfriend are hooked on them. It's called like Up and Apple. and it's peanut butter and like honey and like cinnamon apple butter or something. It does sound good. It is crack. But they're literally like 320 calories.
Starting point is 00:20:28 What is the ingredients? They're actually, it's literally bread and peanut butter. I mean, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure there's like additives to make them last in your freezer. But you know what I will say? The fact that you have to keep them frozen. Yeah. And then thaw and then eat.
Starting point is 00:20:42 That makes me feel a little better. That's true. If it was a PBNJ that just sat on the counter all day and you could grab for it. I would not eat that. You could be waking up and doing crack. Yes. And instead, I'm just addicted to uncrustables. I saw this crazy statistic, though, that the NFL goes through, like me comparing myself
Starting point is 00:20:59 to an NFL athlete, but that the NFL goes through like 50,000 of them a season. They do. Pre-game. Literally. I actually, okay, so all that to say, I've been eating them as a pre-workout snack. Like, I eat them 30 minutes before I go and lift. And it has helped my lifts tremendously because I used to lift fasted. You know what? People do that before lifts.
Starting point is 00:21:19 They eat like a little Snickers bar or something. Yeah. It's like maybe it's kind of like a dirty pre-workout. Like I used to watch these jimbos I'd be like, yeah, I eat a rice crispy tree and like a handful of sour patch and I have like the best pump. What? Everyone's asking about life as Auntie Fee and like your relationship with Kai and me. It's been so fun. Like truly he is just the cutest little baby. He really is the cutest.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And I love seeing you be a mom. Oh. It has been really special. like it has been interesting see like you've I don't want to say you've changed like you've changed I know I'm a different person and not I'm not to say it's like for the better I agree like I think I think especially working in social like the realm we're in yeah we're like there's so much comparison or wasn't there's so much comparison and you're posting your life online I think it's so easy to get caught up in that and like what matters
Starting point is 00:22:17 And what's important and like what things used to frustrate you or irritate you. And now it's like I feel like you're so unbothered with stuff because you're just like I literally don't have the capacity nor care about that anymore. No, I'm so unbothered. Because like I have a like I'm a mom and like that's my priority. And like my stress tolerance is much higher now. Yeah. Like I feel like especially when you and I were working together, I would get so stressed about things that didn't matter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:44 And like, you know what? Yeah. We both did. We were just, like, so wrapped up in it. When you get that wrapped up in it and, like, we also were grinding. Yeah. And when you put so much time and effort and are just like, go, go, go, go, go. I did it to myself, which is such a funny.
Starting point is 00:22:59 You know what? I have moments in my life now that hit me. Like, I traveled alone the other day for my face laser, which we should talk about. I haven't talked about it. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was just me and Greg with one little suitcase going to the airport. And I was like, the fact that I used to get stressed out to travel. this is a spa day.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Yeah. You're like, this is like, I have one bag. Yeah. And I'm only responsible for me. Kai isn't here. Like, I was just like, this is a fucking spa. Put stuff in perspective for sure. I'm just sitting there like.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Yeah. Yeah. Which like you're obsessed with Kai and Kai is like the best thing ever. Yeah. But suddenly you're like, oh, what was I worrying about before? Literally. When me and Greg would go on a vacation and I was stressing out. It makes me feel like it's just before you have kids, you're so.
Starting point is 00:23:43 you're not like this. You're an anomaly. But it's almost a selfishness that you don't realize. You're self-involved when you're... You're self-involved. Because all you have to think about is yourself. And you also think everyone's thinking about you and no one's thinking about you. And I think after you have a baby, you look back and you're like, dude.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. You're... No. And all I care about now is how he thinks of me, how he feels. Like it's just such a different. Like my eyes are just, it's a crazy realization to have. And I kind of, okay, I had a bit of a spiral yesterday. And thank God I had fee with me.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I was going through it. And I want to talk about it because I do think other moms probably have experienced this. But when you first have your child, you have. And, you know, I don't really talk about my childhood in detail on the show. I never have. but I've touched on it. Like, in a way, there's elements of my childhood that I love and I got to travel a lot and see different things.
Starting point is 00:24:49 But there's for sure things about it that I would change. And when I had Kai, I had a level of empathy because I was like, wow, this is really hard. And I don't know how my parents did this at the beginning when I didn't have as much help. I was like, this is crazy. I can't believe they pulled this off. But then you also have moments where you feel a lot of emotion because you're looking at this like perfect child. And Kai is to me perfect. And he's smiling and he's he just appreciates life and he's so happy all the time and just like innocent.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And I just had this overwhelming like anger yesterday of like. how could you ever take a child and ruin their innocence or make them upset or just not want to be involved in their life? It makes you like think about your childhood and your parents differently and you you get angry. Yeah. You get angry. There's like empathy and anger. I think motherhood is like the duality of so many things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:10 I can see how it brings up so much stuff from your own childhood that makes you question and wonder and, you know, resent and get your, yeah, I could totally see that. And it's like this mama bear instinct of like, yeah, anyone who spends time with Kai should deserve to spend time with Kai. Like, I believe that. I want everyone around him to be positive and love him and give him the best energy possible. Yeah. And if anyone's coming around him with anything negative. I'm like, I'll punch shirt. Like, get back up.
Starting point is 00:26:44 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Or, like, you just don't get to be around him. Yeah. Well, you realize, I mean, he is so young currently. But, like, as babies get older, like, you don't realize how much. Well, now you'd probably do. Like, as a grown adult, you kind of think back.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And, yeah, you were, like, a child and toddler. But, like, I remember vibes. Yes. And anger and, like, feelings. You know, I come from a divorced house, too. And, like, I remember at, you know, like, my. six, seven, eight years old being like, something's wrong. Something's not great right now.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Yeah. Like the energy in my house feels not good. And what can I do as a child to fix it? And you're so out of the loop and you're a kid. And like, you know, as your parents don't want to involve you in that, which like, you know, if you're lucky, maybe don't see a lot of fights or whatnot. But like, I'm sure a lot of kids that have gone through that did. I did.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And like it really, like, I think I know I've like blocked out a lot of it. But sometimes I almost get like visions of it and it's like, well, that's probably why you and I don't like conflict. Yes. And I'm terrified of telling people how I feel because I'm scared of what will happen next. I'm scared they're going to leave. I'm scared they're going to leave. And I'm like the fact that anyone would ever make a child feel that way. I know.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I feel like when you have a child, you just are like, whoa. I know. On the flip side, though, it is. So, like, you know, I think back to my parents and, you know, you can look at it one way like, when you have a kid and you're like, oh, that's so selfish of them to, like, do to their kid, which I think I've had feelings like that. There's just humans. And also I'm like, I love my parents and they get along fine now, but like, thank God they're not together.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Yeah. Like, I'm so happy for both of them that they're not together because I don't think they were right for each other. And I'm like, it would make my heart break even more if up until this day they were together just for me and they were miserable. Mm-hmm. And they, like, weren't sleeping in the same bedroom, whatever. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 That would hurt me. and I don't think that's a great example either. So it is weird. Like it's a weird level of being selfish for you and making decisions for you versus your child, which it sounds like you're saying like right now you just feel like everything like you want to do everything for Kai, which I get. I am maybe to a fault like obsessed with him having a perfect life to compensate for like what I didn't have. Yeah. But that's also not healthy and like I'll never be perfect.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Yeah. And I have to wrap my head around that. And also to a certain extent like I know. need to be able to suck up my personal feelings for him to have the type of life that I want him to have. Yeah. It's crazy, dude. I think also just, also just like practicing, like, being present. Yeah. And practicing, like, being grateful for stuff. Yeah. Like, we were talking about some stuff yesterday about him. And I'm like, if you just, like, sat with that for 10 minutes and we're like, he is so lucky. Yeah. Like, Kai is, he's healthy. Gonna have a incredible life. Yeah. And, like,
Starting point is 00:29:35 oh my God. Oh, my God. And that little boy, like, no matter what, like, and you know that, That's like already such a blessing that a lot of people can't say. His life is going to be so different than mine was. And honestly, I could do a whole episode about this. But like it scares me, but it also makes me really happy. Yeah. But it's good to appreciate it and like, you know, like acknowledge it and sit with it and like be aware of it. Because like I said, it's so easy to get caught up and just like wanting his life to be perfect and like, well, what next?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Like what can I do next to make his life more perfect? And like just realize like every day I'm like, oh my God, he didn't do anything. enough stimulation exercises today. I think he's great. We didn't practice sitting enough today. He's doing great. No, I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:30:16 But all that to say, like, what you just said, it's, like, the pressure on the internet now and the pressure, like, from other moms, I can't even begin to imagine when I have a child one day trying to just, like, I swear, like, pick the right nipple for a bottle. Oh. And there's people on the internet being, like, that is a bad nipple. Your child's going to have a weird mouth deformity or, like, that's going to get. give them gas or like, that's a bad material. Like, you should not be putting microplastics in your, and like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:30:45 No, can I just feed my baby? You can't get it right. No, like, you'll never do it right. Or, you know, the right stroller. God forbid. You get a stroller in there, like, like, you're bad if you have help. You're bad if you don't have help. You're bad if you're work.
Starting point is 00:30:58 You're bad if you don't work. You're bad if there's nothing you can do. And also, most of those people don't even have kids. Yeah. Like literally, when people were commenting about my mother effing, Like how I sorry I just had a baby for the first time I used my carrier wrong. I see a million people do it every day. Yeah. The carrier police came for me. I'm like do any of you actually have kids? Which is one thing like I get like if someone was saying it's dangerous. Yeah, but but
Starting point is 00:31:24 even like I can't I'm sorry I can't imagine getting on someone's like a stranger's video. No. And being like hey you're like what the fuck? Also don't you think I'm the most concerned? Don't you think someone in her life that she like knows and cares would like, like, I just, ugh, the audacity of people on the internet these days is just like blows my actual mind. I can promise you the mom parenting their kid is way more about their kids well-being than you do. Yeah. You know? And also, like, it's your first time.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Yeah. You're going to make mistakes. My God. At least, you know. But, like, he's fed. He's sleeping. He's happy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:59 He's great. Yes, ma'am. You know? Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. That's a whole. A lot of people are all. asking if you're still with the boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Oh, yes. I asked him. I was like, can I talk about us? And he was like, yeah. He said, yeah? Well, I'm not going to go into like detail, detail. But we're great. I'm going to go visit him next week.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yeah, we've just been like, great. I'm obsessed with him. Yeah. He's obsessed with you too. I've told him that. I was like, should I? He's a sweetie. He's the best.
Starting point is 00:32:27 He's a sweetie. Guys, he's like a, he's a gentleman. He's just a man. Country accent. Like a real man. I love the accent. And I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:35 He calls me darling. And I about died. But what did he used to call you that you told me? That was so funny. Oh, Playgirl. When we first met, he started calling me Playgirl. And he sent me flowers for my birthday. They said, happy birthday, Playgirl.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And I was like, what does Playgo mean? He says it's endearing. I was like, that sounds like a side piece. Like, that sounds like your like side. He was like, oh, no, no, no. I'm like, Playgirl. He's interesting. But no, I prefer Darling over Playgirl.
Starting point is 00:33:05 girl. That's cute. Yeah. And they like love playing golf together, which is just, I mean, it's adorable. I'm going to bring my clubs on this trip. Yeah, he, like, got me into golf and actually cared to, like, teach me stuff, which was so fun. And, like, great. I'm like, oh, it just, the difference from dating someone that wants you to be around versus someone that finds every excuse to not spend time with you, like, the fact that he golfed and he was like, oh, like, instead, you know, I mean, again, I let him go golf with his men and do his guy time. Cool. Great. I don't want to be in on that.
Starting point is 00:33:40 The fact that unlike a lot of men who are like, oh, thank God my wife doesn't golf, like, fine. I can spend eight hours with the boys and get, like, wasted, like on the golf course, whatever. He's like, oh my gosh, like, that'd be so fun for us to do together. Like, then we can spend more time together on my off days and, like, you can come golf with me. That's how it should be. What? You want me a girl? No, it's so funny thinking about your life previously.
Starting point is 00:34:02 She's just, yeah. It's not funny. Obviously. It's, it's funny. It's, yeah. But, I don't know, I was talking to one of my girlfriends who, you know, I was talking to one of my girlfriends who's like been struggling with dating here in Austin and it's tough but I just like keep trying to remind her you will not have to settle for the right person and you kind of just like you never
Starting point is 00:34:23 know who's going to come along and you just got to keep trucking forward and I never thought I'd meet Jay like the fact that we met is like kind of crazy how'd you meet again my friends introduced us but like he doesn't even live here most of the year but he's from Texas and like it just just like all all the layers and things that had to happen the way they did. And, like, his previous relationship in life and my, like, the fact that everything happened the way it did and timed out the way it did is, like, kind of crazy that we've ended up together. But I saw Emma Lejeet talking about this. She's like an influencer.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Oh, yeah. She just got engaged. She just got engaged. Yeah, like Central Park. And she had just gone through this horrific breakup and, like, hated the guy and then met this guy way too early. And she was like, I'm not, you know, ready. Yeah. Now they're engaged a year later.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Pretty amazing. Girlies. Take notes. Take no. No, he knows. I like tell him every day. Her ring is, did you see it? No.
Starting point is 00:35:15 It's gorgeous. Shampaign and yellow diamond, twi moi, together. Oh, yes, I did see a little bit. She, like, designed it with him, though, I found out. Like, he didn't. I was like, that's incredible taste if the guy picked that. But, yeah, you can tell. I'm, like, into, now I'm into, like, cushion.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I love cushion. Or even old mine. What's that? It's kind of, like, almost like an elongated cushion. Like, I like the longer cushion cut. We should just go try them all. Like, I know. I'm obsessed.
Starting point is 00:35:40 We could go to Corman. You were telling me about them. The prices are a little bananas, but the jury's stimes. Yeah. For vibes. For vibes. Yeah. I mean, really, what we need to do is go to the New York Diamond District.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Yeah. Or like the L.A. Diamond District. I want a new ring, too. Mari. Let me get one before you get another. You're right. Sorry, I'll hold your horses. I want to be like, I want to be Victoria back in where I got a new one.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I'm a freak. The saddest part when Mari got her last engagement ring. I was like fully in the trenches of my last relationship like begging this man to propose to me never happened. Well I bought my own. But yeah. But like I remember shopping for years and I was just like, well, you tried on a bunch too.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I know. But I just think I was, it was like a hard time for me. I think I was in like the dark. And again, like you bought your own. But whatever. I was just like God like Mari's getting this like gorgeous ring and I'm over here like begging my ex to just like care about me. Text you back.
Starting point is 00:36:37 That was yeah. He was really. Yeah, it's okay. We don't have to talk about him. We don't. Definitely don't. We wish him the best. We'll go try on rings.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah. I would love to do that. Jacob's going to be like, you're fucking crazy. No, you're definitely not crazy. No, no, no. You guys are like actively talking about it. We talk about it all the time. But like, honestly, I'm going to be so for real.
Starting point is 00:36:57 I've talked about it from day one, which I don't know if that's toxic. But I also think you should talk about that. When you know, you know. Yeah. Truly, that is such a feeling. And I was telling him the other day. Like, I can't imagine Day without him. minute. And him and I have talked. I actually said this to him and he was like, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Him and I have talked every single day. Wait, that's amazing. Since the day we met. Oh my God. Every single day. He has never spent one day. He has never goes to me. We do long distance. This man is away. This man, we did long distance from two weeks of knowing each other. Also, he's in, can I say what he's in? Yeah. He's in baseball. Yeah. Which means he works every single day. And this man. So for all you girls who's the, you know, they're like, making excuses for a man being like, well, he's just busy with work and like, you know, he's got a lot on his plate. Like, my man literally found time to text me, good morning. I hope you have a great day. Checked in with me during the day. Hey, I'm eating lunch. Like, how's your day? How was your showing? Yeah. Telling me good night.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Like, it's that simple, but like, they have time. And if they're saying they don't have time, move on. We were talking about this yesterday. I can't wait for fee to have a baby one day. because my experience with having a husband that works a lot and is like a CEO and a co-founder and travels a ton can be very lonely and difficult. And I'm like still managing that. And I just think you're going to relate to me probably. Totally. And I can't wait to have a gal pal in mum life.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I mean, I've made some good mom friends. I know. It'll happen. I'm excited. Everyone's asking how our friendship has evolved since leaving Bloom and me becoming a mom. I mean, whenever I see you, I'm like, it feels the same. It feels like we've picked up. I think it feels better.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Me too. I'll be honest. Oh, no. I'll give some tea. Well, it's not really tea. But. Mari's face is like, shut up. Because you know they're going to get me in trouble.
Starting point is 00:38:57 No, no, no. No, but they're always on your side. Yeah, that also needs to stop you guys. Like, we and Mari are best friends and, like, never peg us against each other. We're always good. But, like, when we, when I left, I don't even know now, a year and a half ago, like, whatever. Mari and I had been, okay, like, you know when you and your best friends spend every waking moment together for, like, you're on a trip for a week? And by the end, you're like, I want to fucking.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah. Like, anyone, like, you and your, like, that's, like, childhood growing up, you go on a trip with your friend by the end. You're like, oh, my God. Like, whatever. But we don't ever talk to each other like that. No, no, no, whatever. But, like, we spent every waking minute together, basically, for, like, four years. And I think we can both say this now.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Like, we had kind of developed, like, a codependency with each other, for sure. That's valid. Maybe not the healthiest. That's valid. Yeah. And I think we both just were so caught up in it. And, you know, I had said to Marian, you, this was, like, kind of why, you know, people were like, why do you stop working there? like when Mari and I ultimately decided to part ways
Starting point is 00:40:02 I had said to her like you know I would have never left I would have never been the one to be like but that was part of the reason which I am so grateful that you had the hard conversation with me and like we're the one to kind of like instigate it because it was time I know and I was ready to like kind of move on and do something myself I know but I would have never left because that's just me I know, which is something I know I need to, like, work on. Like, I do it in romantic relationships, too.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I stick around way too long because I'm just, like, scared. And, like, I'd rather be in something that maybe isn't, like, right for then, like, the unknown because the unknown is scary. Yeah. But that was, like, the worst day of my life. Honestly, I hated that so much. And I think at the time, I was, like, in such a weird transition for myself. I was like, I wanted. You weren't even, you weren't pregnant yet.
Starting point is 00:40:54 and you were really struggling with like all that. Really struggling. And I was like, I know when I do get pregnant, I don't want to work as much. And I'm worried about fees careers and what she's going to do with me. Yeah. Which I really appreciated because like we were going full force on this podcast. Like I was booking Mari like crazy. Like we were, it was insane.
Starting point is 00:41:13 It was dope, honestly. It was. And like we were traveling into London and New York and like all over doing all these interviews. It was so cool. Yeah. But I appreciated that you kind of realized you were ready. that you were about to take a step back and you didn't want me to be like,
Starting point is 00:41:28 well, what the fuck? Like, I'm here, I'm grinding and you, like, just are ready to break. Like, what do you mean? So, but, like, it was a little... It was hard. Weird for a bit. It was hard.
Starting point is 00:41:39 You know, like, I think when you're as close as we are, it's hard to not mix personal and work. And it was, like, re-figuring out our dynamic. Yes. Because we'd always... We'd never been friends without working together. Yes. Which people always ask.
Starting point is 00:41:54 We worked together before we were best friends. We weren't best friends first. Yeah. But I always knew, like even when we were working together, I'm like, this is my soul sister. Oh, yeah. And one day, we're not going to be working, but we're still going to be best friends. But we had to go through this, like, hard. But that's how we got so close.
Starting point is 00:42:14 It was like a breaker. It was like a break. It is. But that's how we got so close. And so, like, no regrets. Like, I, you know, when it was happening, it was tough. Yeah, it was. And it was hard because I was like, well,
Starting point is 00:42:24 shit I moved to Austin and I'm like and I was like what am I gonna do now and like I knew I like didn't really want to do like pursue like podcast like I don't know I was just kind of like I also and you again I think saw this that I couldn't even see for myself I was like kind of lost of like who I was and my identity yeah I had just gone through a breakup yeah that like I had moved here with him and like it was kind of like the final piece of my life that like hadn't changed and I I saw it fine like once it all happened I was like it was like if I had continued if those things had changed and I had continued working with Marian Bloom like I think I would have never been able to really like move on and like work on my identity and like figure out who I was so you're so confident and independent now and like you're running a fucking real estate business and you have a which I really struggled with that before like I I And I do think all of that had to kind of end. And I had to like really take a break and like reset. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And my life is like totally one-aided from then. I'm with a, you know, new partner. I'm very happy. Yeah. I have a job that I really enjoy that like I would have never even thought about getting into if I had, you know, stayed working here. And I remember you were thinking of being an assistant again and I was like, I just think you are. Yeah. Not that, yeah, that's a bad job.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I just, you have so many talents and skills and like, I don't know, I think you, yeah, you've really blossomed. But I think I gained a lot of that confidence and knowledge and all that stuff from working with you and Bloom and the podcast. You were handling like a team of people with me. I know. I like, it's crazy. I think back to when I first started at Bloom and like just with Mari and I was just such a different person. I know. I was like a party girl, LA, like 25 year old, like not taking care of myself, like, binge drinking every weekend. Yeah. And yeah, like so much change. And my life reflected that. You know what I mean? Like the people I surrounded myself with who I was dating. Like it all reflected that. And I am like tenfold happier now. Yeah. With my life now. And it all kind of happened because I met you and I worked for Bloom. I know. I literally was talking to my personal trainer this morning. And I was like, me and Fee were like Paris and Nicole.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Like there's no word for what we were. Like we would walk every room you were there with me. Yeah. And we were like, tweedled, do, literally. We did everything.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Running around L.A. Yeah. Doing crazy things that we probably should not have been doing. Like, why are we interviewing this person? Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Like the opportunities. Yeah, it was. But to be fair, we were really a powerful duo. Yeah. Like I think people think it was me and Greg. It was just really you and me the whole time.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Tea. Like two women. Red's handling shit with like a lot of bloomed stuff. I know. We were. No, but we were. We really were. Respect to Greg.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Yeah. Especially the podcast-wise. Like we were freaking. No, I mean, the reason this show became what it was. Yeah. Slash. You know. I picked out these chairs.
Starting point is 00:45:34 You did pick out. And this coffee table and that bookshelf. Yo, you did it by yourself. And I had no idea what I was doing. So you would just do it by yourself. I would walk in one day and you just did the studio. I was like, oh, cool. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:46 You know, you're a very capable. She's a very capable human, you guys. Thank you. But just from then to now, honestly, I think having a Kai and you being like this aunt figure is like really crazy. I know. It is. It's also amazing. Original question.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Because like the beautiful thing about Fee is that I know she is going to be happy to hang out no matter what we're doing. Like on the couch, change. changing a diaper, putting him down for a nap. Like, in some ways, like, I feel like I can't just ask anyone to come do that with me because not everyone wants to do that. And that's fair. Yeah. But you're so, like, accepting of my new life and you don't make me feel bad about it. And you're like, yeah, I want to do that with you.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Like, bring Kai. Like, I'm like, okay, well, I have to leave in 20 minutes to eat his nap time. And you're like, great, I'll come with you. Yeah. I'll put him down. I'm like, what? Yeah. I have a couple friends who, like, my friend Taylor, who is in North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:46:46 and I visited her a ton last season when me and Jacob first started dating. And she had a baby girl who's like one and a half now. And that was like literally our dynamic. Like I'd go hang out there all day. And she'd be like, okay, like, want to go, like, walk to a park and get coffee? And then we have to go put her down for a nap. And then you and I can hang out and talk for an hour while she's napping. And then we have to do like, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Yeah. And I'm like, great. Like, that's like what true friendship. Yeah. I always say, like, true friends are the ones when you guys are sitting on the ends of the couch. and like you're both scrolling on your phone and you're like sharing, you're like sending each other stuff and then like that's how I want to hang out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Like if I ask you to come over and hang out, I want to sit on the couch with you and like scroll and laugh at things and like show each other things and then talk for a little bit. That was us. And then like go back to our phone. Like that's hanging out. Yeah. If I feel like I need to be like engaged in a conversation and like. I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Absolutely not. I'm exhausted also. I probably don't like you that much if I'm doing that honestly. Like my social battery like especially like I mean you obviously do all this, but like in real estate and stuff. Like I'm with clients and inspections and showing houses and like when I'm not doing that now, I'm like couch. I literally want to sit with my dog on the couch. But when Fee, Sophie comes over like every Sunday. Domingo. My man my nanny called Fee, my Sunday friend. My domingo friend. Amiga Domingo. It makes me think of, remember that Sabrina Carpenter and Marcello? Yes. Domingo. That's me.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Oh my God. But Irene has no idea how deep our friendship goes to the fact that you're my Sunday friend. It's so funny. But when Fee comes over on Sunday, it's like we're two mommies just momming. Like she comes out from putting him down and we high-five each other and we're like, wow, that was a tough one. Yeah. Oh, there was one time I like literally tried to put him down three separate time. He's dead asleep in my arms. I go to put him down like right as I like pull my arm out from behind his head, he cries.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Kai does not want to sleep. I come out and then finally he got him to sleep. She's like, isn't that the best feeling? Like the most rewarding feeling when he's asleep. And I'm like, oh, no, it's like the best. Life-changing. But it's a battle. Like that kid does not want to sleep.
Starting point is 00:48:43 He's pissed. He wants to play. He wants to hang out. He's, yeah, that's his personality for sure. But it's fun. I, like, I can't wait until I get to do it one day. But honestly, this has been such a good coping mechanism for me. Even Jacob was like, I'm really glad you're, like, doing that because, like,
Starting point is 00:48:58 getting your, like, baby time in without, like, actually having your own baby. You're inching the scratch. I am. Yeah. And it's good. No, it's really fun. Is Fee going to move to Charlotte? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:11 People keep thinking because, like, with my man's in North Carolina. You know, I, my boyfriend is from Texas and he would love to keep his, like, roots in Texas. He likes to be here in the off season. And, like, this is where I'm building my business. And I've kind of, we've come to the conclusion. Again, we are not married yet. We don't have kids yet. Like, this will probably all change in the next couple years.
Starting point is 00:49:33 But, like, while I am building my career, like, I need to be here in Austin, at least in Texas, but, like, in Austin. And, yeah, like, I've. visit as much as I can. And also with his career, this is the thing, like, he could go to another team next year and be in a completely different state. Yeah. So, like, why would I, at least in my mindset, I'm like, why would I pick up my entire life? Yeah. And go live somewhere, which, like, literally could change next year. And so kind of the plan is to just, like, keep our roots here, always. And then, like, I said, like, once we have kids and, like, that happens, like, we'll see. I will say it's a great place to have a baby. Yeah. I think in my mind.
Starting point is 00:50:13 head I always was like maybe we'll move back to the East Coast at some point like Connecticut or I don't even know but then when I had Kai and there's like a great new mom community here oh yeah great schools I think Austin is an incredible place for young families it is like so much to do like most part I mean it gets really hot in the summers but like very great weather you can walk the trail like you said and oh my gosh I feel like I'm not even a mom yet and I can already see like the groups of moms that do stuff and just like it's crazy it's crazy it's great It's a great place to raise kids. I told you I signed Kai up for gymnastics.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Did I not tell you? Ah! Oh, wait, should we talk about our baby class that we're going to do? Yeah, we'll talk about the baby class. Okay. Yeah, I need to hear about gymnastics. Wait, there's a place near Tarrytown that has, like, baby slash toddler gymnastics classes and it teaches them, like, it's good for their bodies.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Yeah, they learn how to hang and, like, tumble. And Kai's going to do it in September. Yep. The baby cannot even... It can't even crawl yet. I know. I know. Well, he's already trying to crawl, though.
Starting point is 00:51:19 You see him, right? Like, he's using... Yes, he can sit... He can tripod. So the thing with Kai is when you put him on his stomach and he's something he wants, he's like, he's like swimming or he'll use his head as leverage, which really is concerning for me. Like, I'll look over at him and he's face planting.
Starting point is 00:51:36 When is crawling, like... They say it like eight months to ten months, I think. Okay. But I think based on... He might be a little sooner. I think he's a little sooner. So by the time I'm back from Colorado, I think he will be crawling. Regardless, he'll probably be like the youngest in the class.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I'm going to visit Mari and Aspen. Oh, my God. I've never been to Aspen, you guys, ever. I'm very excited. We're going to hike. We're going to go out for dinner. We're going to go, I mean, it's going to be a lot of Kai things too. Which is so fun.
Starting point is 00:52:04 We're going to go to take him to the library. The Aspen Library is so cute. It's so beautiful and it pops off in the summer. Yeah. And it has like a little sweet. dream around to hang out. That's cute. I love that.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Gardens. I used to go to library growing up. Yeah. That was like my dad's activity who would bring us to the public library next to my old high school. A few, maybe a month ago. I was like desperate for activities to do with Kai because I was like, I want to go do things with him. Took him to a library down the street. We walked in.
Starting point is 00:52:29 He pooped his pants. And then we left. Yeah. He wasn't good. I was ready. Yeah. I was like, okay. Something about a library like the books.
Starting point is 00:52:37 It's kind of like a Ross just makes you have to. But it was like. Use the restroom. Have you seen that? Oh, I must be on like IBS constipated TikTok because girls are like, oh, I haven't pooped in like a week and they're like, girl, get yourself a Starbucks and go walk around Marshalls. And you was. Shut up. That's like a thing.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Really? Yeah. Something about the light and the colors. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just immediately.
Starting point is 00:53:00 We had to leave. It's funny you say that, activities. And random, Taylor Hasselhoff. You're, you're. She sold me my house in L.A. She lives in Nashville now, I think. But I know so weird. I still follow her.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Yeah. And she's great. And she's about to have a second baby, if not already had it. But I saw her saying the other day, she is a little girl. And she was saying, like, the way to get through, like, that age and, like, toddler years is she's, like, activities. She's like, we have a morning activity and an afternoon activity out of the house. And she's like, it keeps me sane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I probably sound so creepy talking about her. But, like, I saw her right. That she posts this video. And she was just like, it's like, we have nap time and whatever in the middle. And I have a morning activity and afternoon. She's like, if I stay in the house, she's like, first of all, the house turns into a literal, like, tornado. Yes. She's like, in second of all, I just can't sit in the house all night.
Starting point is 00:53:45 No. And I was like, my friend Taylor's like that too. She, like, always takes Beckett out. I will say, got to get out of the house. That's, I think, why the, like, right now, Kai's at a really fun age, actually, to take him out. Yeah. You and I went out for coffee. We went to an art gallery yesterday.
Starting point is 00:53:58 That was so fun. He loved it. I'm trying to go out more because when I have him for a full day and we don't leave the house, I'm struggling. Like, I feel like I'm in that show that, like, repeats itself the whole day. Groundhog Day. You have to, oh, my gosh, you have to go out. You have to.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah. Or we like, I'll like do a swimming activity with him. Yeah. But I cannot wait for activity age. Yeah. Hence the gymnastics. It's almost there. Soccer when he's too.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Oh my gosh, Halloween. I'm so excited for Halloween. Yeah. No, we're doing baseball for sure. I just like, my friend Taylor's having a boy next and I got him little baseball outfit with like little baseballs all over. It's saying like, let's play ball. And I was playing ball. I was showing them to Jacob and I was like, I.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I cannot handle this. He's like, you need to come down. I was like, look at the little baseball shirt. Imagine like seeing him smile, I freak out. Imagine seeing him like running around with other kids. I know. And his little hair, the way it's parted to this. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:54:57 So cute, you guys. Also, like, I was telling Marley's the other day. I was changing him. And I was like, I am so in love and obsessed with this baby. And he is not even mine. I was like, I, it like literally makes me sick to think. When I have a child, she's like, oh, no, you're like never. You're going to be sick.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I'm going to be, yeah. You're going to be sick. Yeah. It's a crazy. I can't even describe it. The fact that I feel that way about other people's children, I know. I just cannot fathom how I'm going to feel about my own. I know.
Starting point is 00:55:24 It just makes me that much more excited. I know. You're going to be a freak like me. I really am, yeah. We're going to be freaks. It's okay. I love it. It's fun to hang out with other freak mommies.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yeah. I mean, I think we're all probably freaks. We know, everyone's obsessed with their child. I know. I know. I know. I know it's to a degree. I can't even describe. Okay, we should probably wrap it here. I feel like we've been talking for probably longer than it feels. Our 20 minute segment about- Did we miss anything? Oh, I got a laser. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:47 It looks, your face looks like, it's pretty much almost healed now. I know you probably make them on, but like, yeah, it takes. So it is technically like healed, but you don't see the real full results for two to three months. Because it like stimulates collagen. And like, yeah, yeah. I still see like a little texture here in Dr. chestnut. He's coming on the show next week. He looked very glowy. Thanks. Oh, he is? Yes. He's coming back on for part two. I love that. And he was like, that texture will get better and better and better because of
Starting point is 00:56:15 like collagen and cell turnover. Yeah. But I'm really excited. I mean, guys, my face. You look very glowy. Very glowing. I looked absolutely bananas crazy. Like, my gosh. My mom saw video and was like, I like, I guess, I mean, I didn't tell my mom you got that done. She was like, what the fuck happened to Marry? People were messaging me, like, did something, an accident happen.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Yeah, you looked like a burn victim or, like, someone threw acid on your face. You basically are. Like, that's kind of what they do to you. It burned your face off, yeah. And I was making, like, TikTok videos. I documented the whole thing if you want to go watch. Oh, so just like the swelling. Oh, my face was out to hear.
Starting point is 00:56:54 My face was out. People were commenting didn't know this was you until you started talking. I had some people, friends of mine, send this to me and were like, oh, my God, this is Mari. But you know, I had more views than I've had in a long time. I think people get a sick fact. of stuff like that. I mean, other people that might be interested in the treatment, like, want to know. Like, this is so toxic and this is the last place you should go look for anything like that.
Starting point is 00:57:14 But, like, whenever I have, like, a medical thing or anything, I am media. Or, like, I get a new medication. TikTok. Take talk immediately. I know. I want to see people talking about it, their experience. Which I know this is, like, probably bad. And I should be, like, listening to my doctor and not, like, strangers on the internet.
Starting point is 00:57:28 But it's, like, real life reviews. And, like, I want to hear all the tea. I want to know, you know, you know, I was typing in CO2 laser day. day. Like, I wanted to see what was going on. Yeah. I feel like people on the internet have like, that's like, especially on TikTok, like with GLPs. Like, there are people that fully have just like their whole TikTok is just like their experience. And like their injection day every day or like every week. There's like peptide talk. Yeah. I'm on peptide talk. Yeah. I'm like crazy. Yeah. They aren't really allowed to talk about them. Yeah. Because they're, yeah. But there are, a lot of
Starting point is 00:57:54 them are selling it. Yeah. Which is like a suck. Don't, don't, don't, don't buy peptides from people on TikTok. Yeah. I don't think, yeah. I do think there's a little bit of sketchy shis. Yes, definitely happening over there. So try to go through your doctor. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Fee. Love you so fun.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Love you so much. Love you too. I missed this. Thanks for coming on. We have the best tracks. Guys, make sure you subscribe. Make sure you leave a comment. Follow me on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Follow Fee. And if you're looking to buy seller, Lisa, Austin, give me a call. Oh my God. Is that your slogan? No. I'm obsessed. But you should. Wait, what's a good thing with the word fee?
Starting point is 00:58:32 Hmm. You know what I do like? My last name's Attic. like AT-T-I-X and my boyfriend literally thought my Instagram was like Fiona ATX like Austin. Oh! Which I was like, that is a good play. Yes. But the only thing is if I do like logo or brand myself that way, then like I'm Austin-based.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Yeah, because you might want to sell in other places. But so I'll probably just keep like my name as like my business. But yeah, if you're moving to Austin and you're looking for a rental or you want to buy, Fee knows what she's doing. Call her at your girl. Call her at your girl. I'll leave her link in the description. Thanks. To buy a house.
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