Pursuit of Wellness - Girl Chat w/ Fi: Dating, Ozempic, New Job & Austin Life
Episode Date: February 6, 2025Ep. 172: On today’s Girl Chat, Fi is back, and there’s a lot to catch up on! We get into her big career move, the relationship lessons she’s finally ready to share, and the mysterious trip she w...on’t spill about. Plus, I open up about how IVF has been consuming my headspace and why I’ve had to step back from certain commitments. It’s an honest, intimate conversation about where we’re at, what’s next, and how we’re learning to trust the process. Leave Me a Message - click here! For Mari’s Instagram click here! For Pursuit of Wellness Podcast’s Instagram click here! For Mari’s Newsletter click here! For Fi’s Instagram click here! Sponsored By: Upgrade your oral health with the new quip 360 oscillating toothbrush—designed for a superior clean without the hassle. Get 20% off sitewide, plus a FREE travel case and countertop stand, exclusively at GETQUIP.com/POW. Free your mouth today! Wake up with better skin, healthier hair, and the best sleep ever with Blissy’s award-winning pillowcases. Get an extra 30% off with code POWPOD at blissy.com/POWPOD—your skin and hair will thank you! Check out SKIMS best intimates including the Fits Everybody Collection and more at SKIMS.com #skimspartner After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Save 20% on AquaTru water purifiers at AquaTru.com with code POW and enjoy cleaner, better-tasting water with every sip. Show Links: Juicy Orange is the newest (and most delicious) flavor of Bloom’s Sparkling Energy drink. Try it today! Topics Discussed 00:00:09 Welcome 00:00:34 No headspace for guest interviews 00:01:53 Fi is getting her real estate license 00:08:38 Mari’s update 00:11:29 Fi is dating 00:12:58 Call Her Daddy x Rachael Kirkconell interview 00:16:58 What Fi is looking for in a new relationship 00:21:00 Women are pressured to prove themselves 00:21:54 Why do women have to be so perfect? 00:23:01 You can’t change people 00:24:18 The ideal partner/relationship for Fi post-break up 00:28:22 Is Fi still taking semaglutide? 00:33:16 Fi taking ballet classes 00:36:59 Mari’s western riding 00:37:52 Spoon metaphor 00:38:51 Mari and Fi’s current friendship 00:42:25 Mari and Fi were working too much 00:50:26 Austin girl trip recommendations 00:51:37 Mari’s praying journey
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This is the Pursuit of Wellness podcast and I'm your host, Mari Llewellyn.
Queens, welcome back to a Girl Chat episode.
Fi?
I'm back.
It's been like two months.
I'm so excited.
You were catching up before.
Yeah, we were.
Lots of tea was spilled off the mic.
Yes.
I mean, yeah, there's actually some things
I can't tell you guys, believe it or not.
Like in the last episode,
I literally told them how I shat myself.
That'll happen.
It's really nice to have you back.
I've been really lonely.
I was just- I'm happy to be back.
I was telling Fee, I have,
and I actually haven't even told them this.
I've canceled like a lot of my guest interviews coming up,
just to be for real.
And not because any of them were like they were all amazing.
And it was really hard to do, actually, because I was like,
I really do want to talk to these people.
But I've just been in a headspace where I can't.
I can't. You know, Carson, my friend who did IVF, she put it really well to me yesterday.
It feels like your entire life is on pause because you're living in this like countdown.
Yeah, there's just dates of everything and like all the medicine every day, I'm sure you feel
like crap.
Never ending.
Even now leading up to the embryo transfer, I thought I was close.
I can't focus on anything else.
It's consuming me.
Because it's such an intense process, you can't think of anything else.
No.
It's everything that runs your day.
I don't care.
I'm so happy you're here and I care about your updates,
but like to prep and research someone
and talk about like candles and artificial whatever.
And it's not even like rude, you're just like,
I literally can't.
I just can't.
Fit it in my head, yeah.
But anyway, where do we even begin?
I know, lots been going on.
I mean, I saw you what, like a week ago?
Yeah, what did we do?
We got breakfast.
We got breakfast. We got breakfast.
Where do you wanna start?
Should we talk career, personal?
Do you still live in Austin?
Like that's been such a big question.
Like what's the update?
Okay, so yes, I am still in Austin.
I have been kind of like head down studying the last,
literally I realized since like Christmas
and the holidays and stuff,
I like literally have hardly been on social or doing anything.
I've been studying and getting my real estate license.
An academic queen.
Yes, it's actually a lot of work.
Texas is 180 hours of coursework to learn,
and then there's two exams at the end.
Actually, maybe more than that, maybe three exams.
But I've been taking all the courses,
and I've done four out of the six course tests
and I do like one a week.
And pretty much every day I just study for like five hours.
Monday through Sunday.
What's like an example of something you're learning?
Okay, so the last course I did
was all about real estate finance.
So it was all about mortgages.
And it's funny because I was learning all about
like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
and like my mom worked at Fannie Mae for 35 years.
And I quite literally never knew. I mean, she worked in like the creative graphic art department,
but I had no idea what Fannie Mae did for like my entire life. And now I know.
So wait, what is Fannie Mae? It's a mortgage company. What's a secondary mortgage company?
And they buy loans and sell them.
This entire time that I knew your mom worked with Fanny Mae, I thought it was a makeup company. Entire time.
Really?
Yeah.
You know those like pyramid scheme makeup companies that-
It's like Cathy worked at a pyramid scheme?
I know what you're thinking of.
She actually did do one of those for like a week and she absolutely hated it.
Oh my God, I can't believe I thought that.
Yeah.
It's a mortgage, secondary mortgage.
So have you passed the test yet?
So I've taken, so every course is 30 hours long.
So I pretty much study Monday through Sunday, like five hours a day.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
So six days a week, five hours a day.
Like after this, I'm going to go study all the rest of the day.
And then at the end of the week, I take a test.
It's like 60 questions.
It's like on video, I'm being proctored.
So like there's someone on the other end watching me take it.
It's like very intense.
I didn't think it was going to be that intense, but yeah, so I've done, I've passed all four,
four of the six, so I have two more.
Oh my God.
And then I'm going to take a little break when I go on a little trip and then I'm going
to come back and go take my finals.
So I'm hoping to be licensed by the end of February, if not first week of March is my
goal.
So exciting, dude. And then I've already found a brokerage
and a team that I'm gonna join.
I'm actually going tomorrow to meet the whole team
and start like kind of shadowing them
and getting to know everybody.
So it's really exciting.
Will you like bop around to different houses?
I'm sure at the beginning,
I'll probably like go to open houses
and like listings with them.
Until I'm licensed, like I cannot do anything really,
besides just like shadow and like watch them.
But like that's what I'm excited to do.
Like, and I really want to as much as I'm learning from like all the courses and stuff,
I think being there and watching someone and like really like hands on is like how I learned best.
So I feel like it's such a cool time to join Austin Real Estate
because everyone's moving from L.A. right now. Yeah.
It's a lot of people. Yeah. It's a great market to join Austin Real Estate because everyone's moving from LA right now. Yeah, it's a lot of people.
Yeah, it's a great market to be in and it's just completely new.
Yeah. Like it truly, I will say, as much as like I'm in a very,
I'm feeling very optimistic today, it comes in waves.
Like there are some days where I'm like, what the fuck am I doing?
Because it's just like entirely new and it's scary.
And yeah, it's just something completely new
that I knew nothing about until a couple weeks ago
when I started studying.
So it's really intimidating to try something completely new
and out of your comfort zone.
But also I'm like, what do I have to lose?
I think it's such a great thing.
And it's cool.
I think it's so cool.
And if you think about your work history, I mean, you were with me.
And then before that, you were with a celebrity and like always assisting.
And what I think is really cool about this is once you have your license,
once you're out there doing your thing, you're like your own boss.
Right.
Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to that and just having a little more like
flexibility in my day
and being able to go on trips or just like own my life a little more, which no shade to you.
But when you're an assistant, anyone who's any kind of a personal assistant or executive assistant,
like you get it. Like your principle, as a lot of people call it, like their life is kind of your life.
That's just the way it is. Like that's how in tune, if you are a good assistant,
your life's, their life's your life.
So yeah, I'm just excited.
I think it was like the right time for you to do this.
Just like how everything played out.
Yeah, that too.
Just between like all the changes that happened at once.
It's like definitely a lot,
but it feels like a really fresh start.
And like, I feel very good going into this year.
Yeah, your 2025 is like a full 360.
It's funny, we just had,
my phone reminded me of our move,
like what, a week ago?
A year ago.
We moved here almost a year ago, right?
Over a year ago.
It was January 22nd, I think, yeah.
Yeah, we moved that in, I don't remember.
That's insane.
Yeah, I got all these reminders on my phone.
So crazy, because I won't go into detail,
but I was just in a completely different time
of my life during that.
And it's just so wild.
It's really exciting because I'm like, I can't imagine what 2026 January is going to be like,
you know what I mean?
Like my life could look completely different then.
I know.
It's exciting, but that's what I've been doing.
I'm proud of you.
Thank you.
That's really cool.
It's been a lot of work. Like it really has.
I know a bunch of people like have their license
like in other States and they were all like,
oh, it's like a breeze.
And then I look it up and like Maryland's like 60 hours.
Texas is 160.
I'm like, so when I talk to people, they're like,
yeah, it took me like a month.
And then I look at stuff here and they're like,
oh, like four to six months.
But everyone I tell like people in my real life
who are asking me like, what's V doing now?
When I say real estate, they're all like,
oh, that makes so much sense.
Everyone that I've told is like,
oh, you're gonna be so good at it.
Like I'm flattered, like thank you.
But like, it's definitely like your heart on yourself.
Like I'm like, am I?
Yeah, you have the right personality, the right vibe.
Like you make people feel secure, you know?
Yeah, I think that's all good.
I think the part that's intimidating to me
is like the actual like selling of it, like sales.
I am not a salesperson.
Yeah, like I know people that are very good at that.
Not my five really.
A little more pushy.
Yeah, like I'm not, which is funny.
I've been watching like all the real estate shows.
That's like my, that's what I do at night.
So I study during the day.
Then at night I watch like Selling Sunset and like Owning Manhattan.
Get yourself hyped up.
Selling the city. Get yourself hyped up.
No, it really does, except it's very drama, lots of drama.
But even on there, they're so convincing in the way, when they're showing a buyer a listing,
they're just so convincing.
They're like, oh, well, you're never going to find 16-foot ceilings in this zip code
for under X, Y, and Z. And the buyer's like, yeah.
And I'm like, yeah.
And I'm like, I don't know if I can say that to someone.
I'd be like, if you don't want it, no pressure.
No, you're going to have to get a little hard.
I'm going to find a happy medium.
But yeah.
I'm so proud of you.
So that's what I've been doing.
Oh, do you want me to give you an update on my job?
Yes.
Should I give an update?
Yeah, what's your job?
What's happening?
Podcast is podcasting. A lot of solos, a lot of girl chats.
I'm kind of evolving out of the pure interview style.
Although I have a really cool guest coming that I,
I mean, I don't even know how to put into words how crazy.
It's like not a normal pal guest.
Not at all.
It's more in the celebrity realm.
Yeah.
And I would also say she is in the most talked about news story probably of 2024 and 2025.
So I'm just going to leave it at that.
But Fee was a huge part of me getting connected.
It's a crazy story that we will probably divulge in our next girl chat.
Yeah.
But it's crazy.
I am working less than I've ever worked in my life,
in my adult career.
And you know how crazy we used to work,
like non-fucking-stop.
Now I'm in the office once, maybe twice a week.
I mean, as I just said with IVF,
I can't really focus on it the way I used to.
I'm actually going on a Colorado trip this week
for 10 days.
It's gonna be lovely.
I know, I was a bit worried I wouldn't be able to go
because I had to go to the doctor
and get my embryo transfer plan.
I thought he was gonna be like,
no, you need to be here for appointments.
But it's actually like my only last window.
And then I get back and I start pills, patches,
suppositories and injections.
Yeah. Wow.
Yep. That's a lot.
I know, it feels like I'm so close,
but so far at the same time, you know? Why do you have to use suppositories? and injections. Yeah. Wow. Yep. That's a lot. I know, it feels like I'm so close,
but so far at the same time, you know?
Why do you have to use suppositories?
It's estrogen.
And I have to put it up my vag.
So interesting, right?
Like I am a full blown science experiment.
They were like, you can come in
and we'll draw with Sharpies on your butt
to show your husband where to put the shots in.
And I'm like, I'm literally a science experiment.
Like I'm an animal.
Wow.
I know I was low key like a little,
I wanted the embryo to be able to be put in sooner
than it is.
I'm not saying when, because I don't want people to like,
but yeah, I still have to wait, but it's okay.
Colorado is my last hurrah.
That'd be nice though.
I know, and Greg's joining me and whatever.
He's like, is he going the whole time?
He's gonna join me in Aspen.
Veil his girls trip, Aspen, Greg, Valentine's Day vibes.
Cute.
I kinda wanna bring Arnold to it.
Are you skiing?
Oh my God.
I know he would just love it.
He needs some skis, four skis.
I wish I knew how to ski.
Yeah, it's funny.
I mean, I'm not a winter sports girl.
I know.
I'm not a sports girl.
You might be if you tried it though.
I tried it once and I like literally had the flu
and it was like puking down the hill.
You should come visit me.
You'll visit me this summer in Aspen, right?
Yes, but there's no snow then, right?
We're doing a whole month there, you guys.
Cute, maybe I'll stick you up on that.
You should.
I definitely, I've never been.
I've never been to Aspen.
I know, we would have great time.
Summer is honestly better there.
It's like so wholesome.
It's very baby friendly,
the stroll is everywhere.
Perfect.
I know, not that either of us have babies, but.
Okay, so you said you were going on a trip.
I know what that means, but.
I don't wanna share too much.
Oh, you're being demure?
I'm trying.
I get it.
Yeah, I'm gonna go visit a friend, a couple friends.
I am visiting friends, my friend is there. Okay. a friend, a couple friends. I am visiting friends.
My friend is there.
My friend from college is there.
I'm going to visit a friend in a few weeks from college.
No, that is absolutely not.
That is such a lie.
I'm not sitting here and accepting that.
I have been dating.
That's what I'm going to say.
Like multiple people or one? I've been dating. I don't I'm gonna say. Like multiple people or one?
I've been dating.
I don't wanna talk about it yet.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't wanna get ahead of myself.
It's fresh.
Yeah.
It is fresh.
I get that.
You wanna keep it private?
Yeah.
I feel like in my last relationship,
I shared it a little too soon.
Yeah, but that probably wasn't the reason it didn't end well.
Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of stuff with that, no.
But yeah, but I'm doing good with that and I'm happy and we'll see.
Okay, let's talk with them more abstractly about like how you view dating and relationships like now,
like meeting new people, what like red flags, green flags coming out of,
I mean, because the last time they heard from you,
it was pretty recent from your breakup.
So what has changed in the way you go into the romantic world?
That's a good question.
So I wanted to bring this up actually,
and we were talking about before we hopped on the mics,
the call her daddy, Matt James, Rachel Kirkconnell interview.
I still have no idea who either of those people are
Okay, so context Matt James was on the Bachelor
Okay, and Rachel was on his season and she ended up winning and they've been together ever since it's been like four years
Oh, I thought it was new. No, it's been like four years. Yeah
Oh, but there was like a lot of drama and I'm I will say like I'm not a bachelor bachelor at girly
But like I understand pop culture and like I kind of stay up to date with that stuff.
So I've always known like from that aspect, but they've been together like four years.
At the beginning, there was like a couple, there was like a few different things that
they like kind of broke up and then got back together.
Whatever.
They've been back together since.
And a few weeks ago or like two weeks ago, maybe less, they were on a trip in like Tokyo
and then Matt James out of nowhere posted at like 6 a.m.
I remember seeing it on my feed.
I was like, what the heck?
A breakup post.
And it's like a photo of him and Rachel meeting on The Bachelor, like her getting out of the
car, like that scene.
And him just being like, it was like a really weird caption with it and whatever.
Saying like, we broke up.
Yeah, basically.
And like a very religious caption
just saying like, it was very strange.
Like everyone thought he got hacked.
Like that's how strange it was.
Oh.
And then she just like didn't post anything
and like address it at all.
So all that being said, she went on Call Her Daddy
last week, I think the episode came out and it is crazy.
So the reason I'm bringing this up,
this girl like reiterating her experience
through this relationship, literally, I felt so seen.
I know a lot of women did.
It's like my whole TikTok now was like, or was last week,
girls being like, I went through this.
Just like such a similar power dynamic in a relationship
and very much one kind of narcissistic,
avoidant person versus a very anxiously attached person.
Yeah.
And it just showed like, it was so weird her explaining her experience because I
was like, oh my God, that is exactly what I went through.
And it's funny, like Tokyo is like her favorite place in the world and like
they're on this vacation in Tokyo.
And of course, like that's where it happens because like in a lot of
relationships where there tends to be like kind of a narcissist or something,
like it's always on your birthday that they really kind of like struggle.
Yeah. Like whenever it's like, I don't want to go into too much detail.
Like is quite literally exactly what I went through last year when I was in
Italy on my birthday.
And like, you would never know from judgment.
It's almost like when eyes are on you,
that's when they're the most upset.
And oh God, I won't go into too much detail.
You guys should watch it.
That was really, you should watch it.
It was really good interview.
So the breakup post was like out of nowhere.
Like the reason they broke up, they were,
she was looking for, he does food reviews.
They do restaurant reviews together.
And I guess like all day she had been like looking
for a restaurant to do and she like couldn't find
a good one or something.
And then she took him to one and they ended up getting
in like a blow up fight about, or something
about this restaurant and her thinking it wasn't good enough
and that he wasn't gonna like it.
And it made me, it was literally, it took me back
to the day I was in the Amalfi Coast and I was supposed
to go on a boat for my birthday and the boat got canceled and I had planned everything
and I had felt all this responsibility for making sure it went perfect and that he had
a great experience.
Literally, the boat got canceled and I was standing by the dock sobbing.
He was like, why are you acting so crazy?
What is this? I couldn't even put into words. She said the same thing. She was like, they is, why are you acting so crazy? Like, what is this? And I like couldn't even put into words
and she said the same thing.
She was like, they got in this fight over like a restaurant.
He was like, you're being crazy.
Like this isn't that big of a deal, but she felt,
she felt so much pressure on her to like
pick the perfect thing for him.
And it's because when you're so anxiously attached,
you think something as simple as him hating the restaurant
that you pick is like gonna be a reason he breaks up with you.
And it was.
There was a bigger picture than that, but it was.
Yeah.
And it really just like, something clicked to me when I heard that.
I was like, oh my gosh.
It really, it's the silliest things like that.
But that's exactly what I went through.
And it was just so crazy.
But the reason I brought that all up is because since then, I have really, really tried to work on
owning my own stuff, but also learning from that experience
and not repeating that kind of behavior
and not going for people with similar qualities
to that kind of person.
Who bring out the anxiety in you.
Yeah.
And someone who just like makes you feel like,
I've talked about this before,
like makes you feel like you have to be perfect
or they're gonna leave.
It's like the worst feeling ever.
Right, which is almost like.
You're walking on eggshells.
You're probably instinctually attracted to that
because you're like, I wanna prove to this person.
Yes, yes.
I do that too.
I'm like, I wanna show them that I'm perfect or whatever,
but you're kind of like catching yourself in that habit
and going the other direction.
It's like such a weird power dynamic.
And like even people, I remember people were commenting,
like it's so weird.
She like seemed almost like his assistant,
like picking these restaurants for him to make content at.
And like, it just was so, oh God,
it really brought it back for me.
And it was like really traumatizing.
But it made me realize like how much I think
I've already kind of grown from that.
And the fact that I can even see it now
and acknowledge it is huge.
And I just know if I ever start to get that kind of
gut feeling again, like this feels familiar,
like shut it down.
It is not right for me.
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I feel like a lot of women, I'm thinking of like Rachel, Paige DeSorbo, Molly May, like
all these people going through breakups right now seems to be such
a pattern that women have to like constantly prove themselves or show up for the man and
kind of be the like, I don't know, it's almost like roles have reversed a little bit in society
lately where women are like providing all of these things.
It's like a lot of pressure. Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I feel like I'm also seeing it through a lens
of what I'm going through right now.
And I'm like, I don't understand how women are expected
to continue to show up at the workplace, take care of kids.
Like, I mean, if this is my experience with IVF,
imagine like pregnancy and all,
like even trying for a baby is all consuming.
Like all these things we have to go through and then even trying for a baby is all consuming.
Like all these things we have to go through and then provide for our partners at the same
time.
It's just like a wild experience.
It's a lot.
A lot is expected of women.
There's a lot of pressure.
There's a lot of pressure.
Like why do we have to be so perfect?
I think we inflict a lot of it on ourselves though.
I really do.
Yeah, I do too.
I mean, there's a lot of societal pressure.
There is a lot of pressure from your partner, but I also think just as women,
we do it even over to ourselves.
And it's probably generational, right?
Because we watch our moms do it.
Or like we're told we're supposed to act that way.
But yeah, a lot of it's on ourselves as well.
The anxiety being so, I'm so hard on myself.
That's been such a big realization I've had through IVF.
I have zero compassion for myself.
And so much for other people.
Like what?
I always say, imagine talking to your friend
the way you talk to yourself.
No, oh my God, I would have no friends.
Yeah, it'd be awful, right?
You would never.
So I try to remind myself that.
And yeah, just I think I've learned,
I've been listening to the Mel Robbins, Let Them Book.
It's so good. I know you've been reading it too. I don't know if you finished it. I kind of stopped, but I think I've learned, I've been listening to the Mel Robbins, Let Them book. Yeah.
So good, I know you've been reading it too.
Yeah.
I don't know if you finished it.
I kind of stopped, but I gotta get back.
You should do the audible.
I know I will.
Cause I like walking and listening and it's her,
it's her doing it.
And she has the best voice ever.
Yeah, no, it's amazing.
It's like mom just like giving me advice.
But that too, I think really just like
learning the let them theory
and also like you can't change people.
I've noticed that too and I will take full responsibility.
Like my last relationship, I definitely tried to change my ex-boyfriend a million times.
Oh my god, everything he did would piss me off and I had a comment about it.
And finally I was like, okay, Fiona, instead of like trying to mold someone into the person you
want to be, maybe like take a step back and the next time you date, try to like find someone that you actually like.
Yeah, yeah, that sounds so awful.
I'm like, no one's perfect, but you cannot change someone.
And I'm sorry, if they start to change for you,
they will hold it against you.
Cause I went through that too.
Yeah.
And then, that's true.
Then it's like double over cause they've like kind of changed
but then they like blame you cause they don't like
who they've become with you. And they use it as like proof.
Yeah, that's so true.
And people like even the Molly Mae, Tommy, Molly Mae documentary wasn't his documentary.
But like even that, it's like she stuck around for so long and like
tried to make it work and tried to make it work and tried to make them change and like you can't.
No.
You really can't.
So I think I've learned that too.
Like you can't change people and can't. So I think I've learned that too, like you can't change people
and instead of just trying to meet someone
and like morph them into who I want them to be,
like I need to try to find someone
that we align a lot more just naturally.
I know you don't wanna go in detail,
but like meeting someone you really like,
how do you know that your boxes are being checked
and then how do you know what to let go of?
Like, because no one's perfect, right?
Like, I remember the first conversation we had about, like, people you were dating.
Yeah. And they were like, we were talking about, like, different things.
And then there was this one thing that we were like, is that bad?
Is that good? How do you know what to, like, let go of?
For everyone, it's different.
I think just like the way you're upbringing and like kind of the traumas
you have and the stuff, I think that is huge.
I need someone that has gone through some kind of,
like had a similar upbringing to me in a way.
My parents are divorced.
I witnessed that from a young age.
You know, they're friendly now and stuff,
but like it, that shaped a lot of my childhood
and a lot of the way I see the world.
And like, I think having that in common with someone,
I realized I, all of my exes,
all had like the perfect family dynamic.
And it was so, not that any family's perfect,
but like they had a, you know, their parents were together.
And I always lean towards these relationships
because to me it was what I didn't have growing up.
And I was like, oh, they have the family and the cousins
and they all love each other and all that stuff.
And it like drew me in because it was not what I had.
I thought that's what I wanted.
But then unfortunately, like once, you know,
the relationship got real and like we had conflict and stuff,
I would be like, you can't see how like the angle
I'm coming from.
And they couldn't, and I couldn't see the angle
they were coming from.
And I realized that is a big thing for me.
I need someone who gets it and has been there.
I'm 29 now, but I'm at the age now, when I'm on a date,
we don't need to like trauma dump, but we need to be honest and real from the beginning. And I'm done trying to just be perfect and impress you.
I wanna talk, what is your family dynamic?
What, I need to know that stuff
because I realize how important it is to me in a way.
Or just like I said, how it really shapes you.
So I think that's one big thing.
I like that, just asking upfront questions.
I think that's really important.
Are you also being like, my goal in life is to be married and have kids?
Yeah, I think kind of going along with that, I think that's super important to be upfront about.
I mean, you know, my ex, like we had a very fun kind of relationship from the beginning.
It was going out and like we party a lot and like we were young and it wasn't like,
we weren't in that period yet.
And like, I don't think we ever really even had
those serious conversations.
It kind of just was like, we're together
and like, so we're gonna get married, right?
And we never really had those like, what do you want?
It was kind of just like, well, we're both doing this, right?
And like now I'm like, oh no, I need to like sit down
and be like, you want this, right?
Like, is this a goal of you?
Because it's not for everyone, you know what I mean?
And that's fine too, but like it is for me.
So I think that's really important.
General manners, I think finding someone who is empathetic
is like huge to me.
I'm very empathetic and I think I've realized in the past,
like I fill up other people's cups and like I need someone
that's gonna be helping fill up my cup too.
So empathy is huge.
Yeah, just like traits like that.
Yeah. And also on the family front, what I've realized too, is I think I've always put a lot of emphasis on wanting, like a beautiful, close family because I didn't have that. And I think what I've realized is we get to build that ourselves and we're just not there yet. Like we're so close, but when we have kids,
we get to kind of create the family we always wanted.
Yeah.
You know, like I feel like so often I feel disappointed.
You know, you and I have shared that over the years,
like disappointed in the way that things go at like holidays
or feeling like people didn't show up for me a certain way
or whatever it is.
And I'm like, dude, you get to do that for your kids
and create this like beautiful family unit
that you've always wanted.
And that's like very motivating to me.
And you get to do it with the partner that you choose,
which is really cool.
So you're not in a relationship?
No, I'm not in a relationship.
Okay.
No, no.
I thought maybe you would be.
No.
I wasn't sure.
No.
Should we answer some questions?
Sure.
Is Fee still taking semaglutide or just maintaining now she looks fab? No. I wasn't sure. No. Should we answer some questions? Sure.
Is Fee still taking semaglutide or just maintaining now she looks fab?
Oh, thank you.
I am still on it.
I actually recently switched providers that I was with because the one I was with, which
I really liked from the beginning, they're like a local Austin one.
It was just like getting expensive.
It was pretty expensive to begin with, but it was legit and it was local.
And like, I liked the program they had.
And so I was like, look, I was really scared, honestly, when I first started it.
And I was like, I want something legit.
And I want to like talk to a doctor whenever I have questions and stuff.
So I signed up with the program here and I was with them the last, I guess, like six or eight months, nine months that I did it.
But it was pretty expensive. and I was with them the last, I guess, like six or eight months, nine months that I did it.
But it was pretty expensive.
And so I kind of asked around to some friends I knew that were on it
and they recommended another program.
So I recently started with them and it's been good.
It's a little bit cheaper, a little more manageable, but still legit.
I have been lowering my dose.
And so the goal for me is I would like to stay on a maintenance dose of some sort.
Maybe instead of every week doing it, it's every other week and it's a low dose.
But for me personally, just the mental aspect and the food noise aspect has completely just really changed my life.
And I can't imagine going back to how I thought before.
And so yeah, I know that's not the answer everyone wants to hear.
And I know when people started, they're like, well, what happens when you go off of it?
I plan to be on a low dose of it, a maintenance small dose for as long as I can, probably
until I get pregnant one day
or until I'm trying.
And that's me personally.
And I know people have their own feelings about it,
but I know what feels good and I know what works for me.
And yeah, so I am still on it.
Yeah, I think that sounds like a good method.
Yeah.
I mean, but I'm not actively like trying,
like I will say, like I've lost kind of the weight I was looking to lose.
I'm in a good place now.
Like I also, I get a lot of questions.
I get DMs about this a lot.
Like I will say at the beginning, there were months where I really couldn't work out.
I had very little appetite.
Like I will say that I probably didn't do it the healthiest way at the beginning. But now that my body has really adjusted to it, I eat very normally. I eat smaller portions,
but I eat very normally. I work out. I lift again. I have the energy back that I feel normal again.
To me, I'm healthy. Everything's good. I'm not binging. I think that was an unhealthy habit
that I was doing before.
I'm not binging, I'm not,
the food noise isn't out of control.
So yeah, I'll probably stay on it.
Sounds like you're going about it the right way.
Long term, yeah.
When I was pulling old photos of us for the Q&A
and I was going back, it's just so crazy.
I have this crazy photo.
Wait, can I show this to you?
Yeah, I was pulling from your birthday in Laguna and I was like, oh my gosh, she looks completely different. Yes. And like I never want
to shame anyone or even myself. Like look at this was exactly a year apart, like to the day
in the same outfit. Let me see. That was me at training mate in January. It's actually a crazy
photo. Your arms look really different. To me me, I just look so much less inflamed.
Even my face, I've never been diagnosed with PCOS
or anything, I know a ton of girls on PCOS take it
and have found, but I look at photos of my face
and I was just so round and puffy.
I really was so puffy and inflamed all the time.
And I was doing the workouts and I was eating clean
and I really was doing everything.
And it just-
Dr. Tina was saying how it's so good for your gut health.
That too.
I always had crazy gut issues and like,
and bad, like, oh, just really.
And like since being on it, I feel so much better.
So yeah, I definitely lost some weight,
but I feel good and I feel honestly
the most confident I've felt in a long time,
especially after kind of like the last few months I had had.
I'm single and I wanna feel good and I do.
I feel like you're growing about it in such a healthy way.
Thank you.
Oh, I like your little L necklace.
Lavecchia.
I changed my name legally. You did? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Congrats. little L necklace. Lavecchia. I changed my name legally.
You did?
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Congrats.
Llewellyn Lavecchia.
Wow.
I know.
I got rid of my middle name.
Yeah.
I mean, it's still on the judge's hands,
but it's underway.
But now I put Lavecchia on everything.
Wow.
Isn't that funny?
Yeah.
I just wanted to do it.
That's cute.
That's ready.
And I like am attached to my last name,
but I was kind of like,
well, I'll just make it my middle name. Yeah. But, I want to have his last name, you know? Yeah.
Are you staying in Austin? I feel like we answered that. I just signed my lease for another year,
because I'm joining that real estate team here. I'm definitely at least going to be here another
year. Oh, how are you liking ballet? They want to start, this person wants to start. So yeah,
that was like really, really random of me.
One day last year I was like, I need a hobby.
And so I looked up adult ballet and there's a place called Ballet Austin downtown.
It's like right near my house.
And yeah, it's a six week program, like beginner, beginner adult ballet classes once a week,
every Wednesday evening.
And it's been good. I've done three classes.
I have three more and I really like it. I'll probably keep doing it.
It's just to be honest, it's funny. The way it used to talk about riding,
it's like time that you can't be on your phone and like you really have to be
like as much as it's like physical, like it's so mental.
You really have to be there. You have to know what you're doing. And ballet is the same way.
Like when they're teaching the combinations, like it makes me realize how like focused I am.
It's hard to memorize, right?
Yeah.
And just like learning all the new terminology and just...
I also like it because it's a physical activity.
But it's like the first physical activity I think I've done in a long time that I'm not doing...
For aesthetics. Yes
Like to exercise like I genuinely am doing it because it feels nice and like it's like you're learning a new skill
Yeah, so I really like it. I highly recommend it's like I said, it's a six-week program
So I'll probably continue it but it's all like it's all women in my class like around my age
There was this girl next to me she had a really
cute little leotard on and i started chatting with her and she was like how old are you i was
like i'm 29 she was like what and i was like how old are you she's like i'm 21 i was like oh my god
she was like i thought you were my age and i was like oh okay sorry okay. Sorry that I'm not. She was like, I'm almost, I'm turning 30 years. She was like, no way. And she's like, you
do not look 30, which I was like, is that good? Thank you. But also she was like, I
think you were at my age. And then I was like, is everyone in here like 21? It was really
funny. But I was like, thank you. No, they can't all be 21. It was like, there's definitely
like girls my age, like mid to upper 20. It's just so funny though, because the whole class,
I'm like, so everyone here like end of last year was like, I need definitely like girls my age, like mid to upper 20s. It's just so funny though, because the whole class, I'm like, so everyone here,
like end of last year was like, I need a hobby.
Like I have no passion.
We're all going through a mental breakdown.
But it is really funny because it's just like adults all dressed in like leotards and like tights.
So cute.
And you feel very like, I can't describe it.
Childlike?
Yeah, like very childlike.
Like you're all in your little tights
in your little ballet flats.
So cute.
It's kind of goofy, but.
Are you gonna have a recital that I can come?
They haven't said anything, but like.
You're like, I'm looking for things.
Honestly, it's funny.
I was actually catching up with my dad last night
and he was asking me about it and he was like,
it's so funny because you grew up doing ballet.
He goes, but every recital, you would cry and I wouldn't go.
I hated recitals growing up.
I could see that for you.
I did not like everyone looking at me.
I did not like the attention.
So like, honestly, if there is a recital,
I will probably do it.
You should.
Because I feel like that would be good for me.
For your inner child.
Yeah, so.
That's funny you say that, I would hate them too.
I did them anyway, but I hated them.
Yeah, it's like something I can't even describe.
It's like almost, it's like social anxiety.
I don't know, it's something, like being looked at.
It's scary.
Yeah, so, but I would do it.
Like, I was thinking, if I like kept it up,
if I keep this up through the year,
like should I like do a little Nutcracker video?
Like, I honestly might.
I think it'd be fun.
I'll come, I'll be like, with flowers at the end.
Me with like a bunch of toddlers.
It's like my whole show that I did, I guess.
Remember?
And I got my ribbons and I was like,
okay, I'm never gonna do that again, but I was so fun.
Yeah, I think I would.
So it's been good.
Definitely healing my inner child.
I love that for you, I'm so excited.
Thank you.
That's so cute.
I mean, I feel the exact same way about horse riding.
How's your Western riding going?
It's good.
How's Red?
He's great.
I, it's been hard for me to get out there recently.
I just don't, I don't know what it is.
I think I'm in like protection mode a little bit,
but I went a couple of days ago and I rode Golden Boy.
Golden Boy is like the old pony.
He's a Barbie looking horse.
The Barbie horse at the barn,
but he is so slow and gentle
and I've never seen him do anything wrong
that I just feel really comfortable getting on him.
And like Red is an amazing horse.
He's not a beginner horse.
Like you have to be paying attention
and like he spooks sometimes and things happen with him.
So love him to death.
I'm gonna actually write him Wednesday.
And writing still brings me so much joy,
but it's three hours out of my day.
And yeah, I'm just mentally kind of struggling to put,
you know what me and my therapist said?
She likes to use the metaphor of spoons.
Let's say you have 10 spoons in your day.
You have to decide where you put those spoons. How many spoons do you put those spoons. Like how many spoons do you wanna give to your studying?
How many do you wanna give to your friends?
How many do you wanna give to ballet, whatever?
For me, I feel like my spoons have been like cut in half
and I'm like my bandwidth is way shorter.
So like.
Gotta be a little more selective
where you put your spoons. Kind of, yeah.
And I feel really guilty about it,
but I'm like struggling a little bit with the writing.
But as long as I go once a week, and I'm still loving it,
and also, you know me, I have a hard time
not putting pressure on myself to be amazing.
I know, you're very all in or not, so I see that.
So if I'm not fucking competing and flying around barrels,
I'm like, well, why are you even going?
And I need to get out of that.
It doesn't need to be like that.
No, I could just be vibing.
And did you see me writing him the other day?
I did.
I was having a lot of fun.
I was like, good.
So it's good.
A lot of people are asking us about our friendship
now that we don't work together.
And I think that's a great question.
And I have an answer.
I'll let you go first.
Should I go first?
Yeah.
I love it.
It is nice. I like it a lot more. Yeah. go first? Yeah. I love it. It is nice.
I like it a lot more.
Yeah.
I seriously, I've actually been wanting to say this to you
on our coffee dates, but I just was like,
that's weird for you to say.
I feel so much more relaxed.
Yeah.
Now, and I feel like when I'm with you,
I can genuinely just be a girl.
Yeah.
Like I'm like, oh my God,
I can literally just talk to her about dating
and like tell her my updates and I don't have to be like, oh, but we have this literally just talk to her about dating and like tell her my updates.
And I don't have to be like,
oh, but we have this thing going on.
And oh, we have to do this.
And oh, I have to talk to her about this.
Like, I feel like I can just like chill.
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I think we both are just so, like we were just saying,
like really harden ourselves. Like we were doing the absolute most.
Oh, I literally think back to like last year and like, cause like now I've just been like
January, I was home studying all month.
Like I really did not do much and like, you know, I would sleep in and go on my walk and
just study all day.
And like I was getting stuff done.
I sleep in now too by the way. I was getting stuff done. But it was like, I know so crazy.
Like what?
I was thinking about Valentine's Day last year.
We were flying to London for the Bloom.
And I was just like, holy shit.
Like the amount, oh my God.
And we had literally just moved to Austin, Texas.
And we were like, I know, let's get on a plane to London.
And we went to LA right around.
Like we were so, I know, let's get on a plane to London. And we went to LA right around, like we were so intense
and everything, I think we both just like wanted
to be the best and do the most.
And if like our calendar was not filled to the brim
every day, it was like, we weren't doing enough.
And oh my gosh, we were both.
Full blown masculine era, like full blown.
And it was just, it was a lot, it was a lot.
I have a memory of London, us sitting in a cafe
after the event, and just like full dissociated,
ears ringing, like, remember I would just cry sometimes
because I was so overwhelmed.
I don't think people realize this,
like yes, Greg is my business partner
and like was by my side for a lot of this shit,
but like Greg is a man.
And at the end of the day, men have limits and boundaries.
Women are just like, like I felt like I was on a rocket ship
and I'm like saying yes to everything.
And even that event in London, like,
I mean, how many girls was that?
300 girls, whatever, like,
you couldn't even see the end of the line.
I'm freaking the fuck out, I'm nervous,
but I just did it anyway.
That was the thing, it was like, do it anyway,
do it anyway, do it anyway.
And I'm meeting all these people,
they all wanna talk to you too,
because you were by my side for literally everything.
And keep in mind, when I'm doing this meet and greet,
it's scary, I'm just a girl, I'm just a human being.
It's a lot, well, also a lot of it's like very emotional.
It's a lot of emotion a lot of girls coming and like crying yeah saying these crazy stories.
It's it's beautiful and it's amazing but it is so taxing.
It's so intense.
Did you see it in the Molly May documentary when she had her did that not did that not did that not
trigger you?
I was gonna say I don't know if I ought to say it triggered me, but holy shit, like I was like, it was so,
and like not that you weren't so grateful
for every person that ever came.
And it was like, it was always such a cool experience
and opportunity, but when she like goes behind the curtain
and is like literally having a mental breakdown
because she's like, I can't take a picture
and say hi to everyone, but I feel like I have to,
cause everyone came to see me.
And she's like having a mental breakdown.
I was like, oh my, it was like a flashback.
It was you and me, like you comforting me, me crying.
It was a lot.
I was thinking about the bodega event,
like us getting out of the Uber.
Yeah, it was a lot.
This probably sounds so crazy, but when you're in it,
it is the weirdest feeling.
But you don't wanna let anyone down.
And again, I think you and I are both very empathetic
and both really, and I'm not trying to drag you, Greg,
but to Greg, he's just like, it's fine.
You can't get to meet everyone.
That's just the way it is.
You're doing a great job.
Just have fun.
And you're like, it is so much deeper than that.
And I am feeling, I think you and I both also like feel
other people's emotions.
You know what I mean?
Like that's a huge part of it too.
I think we both like take in other people's energy.
So by the end of those events, it was like,
holy shit.
And we did them all the time.
Like I did so many of them.
And I remember at the London event,
you and me saying hi to everyone, like whatever.
I remember looking over and Greg and Leo were in the corner
like doing absolutely nothing like on their phones.
And I was like, oh, they don't get it.
But even outside of that, like I remember being at the Bloom,
like I was thinking about LA
and how like I really had no friends outside of you.
And I was like, of course not.
Like people would ask me to hang out
and I was always at the office, always busy.
We were very dependent on each other and we were very dependent like on Bloom People would ask me to hang out and I was always at the office, always busy.
We were very dependent on each other and we were very dependent on Bloom and our work dynamic.
Yeah, for sure.
It was our whole life. It really was.
So I remember my morning routine, 5 a.m. wake up, roll out of bed, gold's gym,
workout for an hour and a half like a maniac, go home, get to the office, go, go.
Literally by the 30 minute increment
was something different.
I'm exhausted thinking about it, seriously.
It feels like another life, it really does.
I couldn't do it now.
Like if you asked me to build Bloom again,
I couldn't do it.
Yeah, it was a lot.
I don't know if I could do it the way that I did it.
I also just think like your young mid-20s,
like you have like a hustle in you and stuff that you,
it's the same way like,
I was catching up with some girlfriends the other day
and we were all saying how like we literally don't go out
or like do anything now on the weekends.
And I'm like, I don't have it in me.
You want me to go to a bar till like midnight on Friday?
That sounds so crazy.
Oh my God, that sounds exhausting
and just like not a place I want to be.
And I think you just have this like energy and like firing you at that age
that you were just like, I know you kind of it is like you're like, it's a high.
We were riding a high for a while until we finally were like so burnt out.
I am burned the fuck out.
And I think I honestly think that was a huge kind of factor
that happened towards the end of last year that I think, I honestly think that was a huge kind of factor that happened towards the end
of last year that I think we both kind of when we realized the dynamic like wasn't working
anymore, I think we were both just so burnt out.
I think moving to Austin, just like leaving LA and kind of leaving that like go, go, go
that we had had there, we were like, wait a minute.
Got to come up.
Yeah.
And we kind of realized that we had both been like
drowning in work and stuff and so.
But also like, thank goodness,
like I keep thinking to myself, thank goodness we did that
then because now I'm in a position where I can stop
for a minute if I need to.
Cause if, I mean, if Bloom wasn't where it's at,
like I wouldn't be able to.
It's almost like it happened how it was supposed to.
No, I mean, I'm so thankful for that time.
And it's funny, even going into the real estate stuff,
it's very intimidating.
And I'm like, God, like I don't even know where to start.
Like if I like, like day one, I get a client or whatever,
like I know nothing.
And then I literally was like, Fiona,
you like built a podcast studio studio and did audio and video.
And I learned all that and I had no idea what I was doing.
Like any of the stuff, when we would do the events,
when we would throw the events,
we had no idea what we were doing at the beginning,
but we learned.
And so I'm like, okay, Fiona,
if you could learn how to do all that,
you can learn this.
So I will say the time at Bloom definitely taught me
work ethic and that I am capable of a lot more than I think I am.
I'm sure you can relate to that too.
Oh my God, we did so much crazy shit.
I'm like, okay, I got that in my back pocket.
It's confidence building for sure.
We know we can do it.
But it was crazy.
But it was so crazy.
I was literally thinking back to that London trip and I was like, that is crazy.
I know, to be honest.
We were doing the most. I know, to be honest. I think the team is navigating around me in this phase of my life because they're so used
to me being available all the time because I used to say yes to everything and now I
feel like I say no to so much stuff because I'm trying to honor this moment that I'm in.
And I keep waiting for myself to wake up and be that me again, and it's not happening.
You go through just different stages of life
and the kind of person you are,
and I think we had that time.
I don't think I'm gonna be that way anytime soon again.
Grind time, I mean, you don't have to ever be that way again.
I know.
I loved the orange PR box.
Oh, I know. That was sick.
So crazy. That was so cool. Oh, I know. That was sick. So crazy.
That was so cool.
Yeah, people are loving juicy orange.
Fee actually came in drinking a juicy orange.
It's her new favorite.
I tested juicy orange before I left.
Yeah.
One of my favorite flavors.
It's one of the more subtle ones.
It's like, if you're looking for a morning energy drink,
I would feel like it's the best morning one
because it's not as intense.
It's like light and orangey.
Yeah, it's actually my favorite right now too.
I had one yesterday.
Austin Girl Trip Rex, that's a good one.
I'm not good at this.
Okay, I'll help.
God, actually, am I good at this?
No, I'm old.
All I do is go to Pecan Square in Jefferies.
I did have a girl DM me asking,
she like, I don't know if it was a bachelorette,
she was saying, she's like, we want to come in August.
And I was like, it's going to be really hot in August.
That's not a good idea.
I was like, I don't know if like, I was like, Austin's really fun.
But I mean, one of my friends had a bachelorette here and we went on a boat, we went to a winery
and like, there was like, there's definitely a lot to do here.
There's so much to do for girls trips.
Definitely a boat on the lake, go to ski shores.
Go to Terry Black's, get some barbecue,
go shopping on South Congress.
Go to Jacoba's, go to Clark's for dinner,
go to Swedish Hill for breakfast.
I don't leave Terry Towns straight up.
Like I go like this, I literally live in a square.
Yeah, I'm trying to get better.
Well, like I said, I really have been a hermit.
I haven't been going out at all, so.
I love that for you though. Yeah. I feel like you do things.
I do.
Honestly, when I do, it's funny.
When I do stuff now with friends,
it's some sort of exercise.
We're cycling and getting coffee
or we're going on a walk in the lake and getting coffee.
That's kind of how I socialize now, which is fine.
We should walk soon because it's nicer out now.
Yes, finally.
It's all about me praying.
Oh yeah, how's that going?
It's good.
I go to church every Sunday
I pray morning and night. Wow, not it's not coming from a place of like all of a sudden. I'm religious
it's literally just like I
Needed a practice and it's just helping. Yeah, like it's like a community. It's positive. I feel like I'm letting go control
I'm putting it in someone else's hands. For someone like me, this is so excruciating.
It's excruciating.
It goes against everything that you.
Oh, I'm dying.
I know. I know.
I feel like I'm dying.
I know. It's so crazy.
I know.
Dude, you just said we moved to Austin over a year ago.
I feel like I've legit,
I've been trying to have a baby for two years now,
at this point.
Ish.
It feels like a long, long time.
And I'm just like, dude, I'm ready.
So when I pray, it's like I'm doing gratitude. I'm saying thank you. I'm saying please help me
get through this. I'm not religious and I wasn't raised with any religion, but I, and I've been
doing this for as long as I remember, every night when I'm in bed, I don't pray to anyone,
but I kind of say something every night
in my head to myself.
That's cool.
I've always done that.
I think it's a good practice.
Yeah, and exactly what you were saying.
I say a gratitude thing,
or if something's happening in the world,
or something I'm going through,
or someone I know is going through something,
I always say a little something to myself.
It's almost how I fall asleep at night.
I kind of think and say.
That's cute.
Yeah, I've done that forever.
Yeah, I find that my list gets very long though
because I'm like praying for, oh, pray for them.
Oh, and them too.
Oh, them also.
And I always try to include someone
that I low-key don't like.
You know what I mean? Because I'm that I low key don't like.
You know what I mean?
Because I'm like, I wanna practice that too.
Not just people I care about,
people that I don't really fuck with also.
I pray for them too.
January was an interesting month.
January was nuts.
Really long.
Yeah, it was a long month.
So you're getting your real estate license.
I'm getting an embryo implanted.
I know I gotta ask you off the mic.
Yeah, and I thought I wanted to hear all about
the trip coming up, but whatever, you'll tell me off mic.
I'm going to Arizona.
Yeah, that's not the info that we want,
but we'll hear an update when you get back.
I'm going to see a friend and maybe a boy, a man.
There we go.
Is he gonna listen to this?
I don't know, that's why I don't wanna say anything.
Hey. I don't know. Fee why I don't wanna say anything. Hey.
I don't know.
Vy, thank you so much, we love you so much.
Aw, I love you too.
The girls were so excited to help you.
I know, it's been a minute.
I gotta come back more often.
I know, next time do you wanna listen to voice messages?
Yes.
We'll bring that back, I haven't done that in a long time.
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