Pursuit of Wellness - Hannah Berner Gets Real: Dating Advice, Feminism, Self-Love, Confidence & Her Career Evolution

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

Ep. #117 Today’s episode of “Pursuit of Wellness” is all about laughter, chaos, wellness, and female empowerment with comedian Hannah Berner. She is just as hilarious on the pod as she is in her... special, and she leaves no stone unturned! In addition to answering all your questions, Hannah shares the scoop on how she started her career, some of her habits and snacks that keep her going in her busy life, and even gives some really strong relationship advice. Whether you know her from reality TV, The Giggly Squad,  her Netflix special, or from Call Her Daddy - Hannah will leave you on the floor laughing in this episode! Tune in for an episode packed with laughter, wisdom, and a refreshing take on living well in today's fast-paced world. Leave Me a Message - click here! For Mari’s Instagram click here! For Pursuit of Wellness Podcast’s Instagram click here! For Mari’s Newsletter click here! For Hannah’s Netflix Special click here! For Giggly Squad click here! Pre Order How To Giggle click here! For POW Brand Promo Codes click here! Sponsored By:  Get 20% off HoneyLove by going to honeylove.com/POW #honeylovepod The healthiest red meat on the planet delivered directly to your door. Go to mauinuivenison.com/POW to get 20% off your first order. Listeners of my show can save $250 by going to mylifeforce.com/pow. Give Lifeforce a try and find out what the healthiest version of yourself is capable of. Topics Discussed 04:29 - Welcome Hannah Berner 07:44 - Hannah’s routine before a performance 15:10 - Fave snacks and getting movement in 18:20 - Practicing the worm 22:01 - Testing materials 23:03 - Being a lowkey biohacker and ancestral beauty 29:07 - Female empowerment and decentering men 32:17 - Starting a comedy career 36:20 - Learning to enjoy the process and garnering self love 40:07 - Hybrid accents and having kids 43:30 - On stage feminism 44:38 - Normalizing weird shit 45:29 - Nikki Glaser 47:08 - Hannah’s career path and confidence 49:30 - We Ride At Dawn 51:31 - Skiing, horseback riding, and tennis tutorials 57:53 - Rapid fire questions 01:04:02 - Hailey Bieber 01:04:57 - Hannah’s skincare routine 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 you can be a boss badass and depressed like we can be so many things and we can be funny but also hot and sexy like i really want i feel like so much of comedy back in the day was like you had to be the ugly friend to have a sense of humor and the pretty girl can't be funny and it's like girls are not one-dimensional like that this is the pursuit Wellness podcast, and I'm your host, Mari Llewellyn. What is up, guys? Welcome back to the Pursuit of Wellness podcast. I am freaking out because today we have someone on the show who is an icon, a legend. I'm obsessed with her. She's one of my favorite comedians of all time. I did a little bit of a mysterious post on instagram and you guys were guessing who it was and 99 of you got it right this one is for the gigglers this is hannah burner she is one of the most influential comedians of this generation
Starting point is 00:00:58 she has two podcasts herself giggly squad and bonone. She is known for her video series, Hand on the Street. You guys have probably seen her interview Hailey Bieber, JLo, various celebrities. And she's just like hilarious. She does stand-up comedy. She's so talented. And her Netflix special, We Ride at Dawn, just launched. I'm so proud of her. She is really for the girls. She gives me such big sister energy. She's so funny. You'll see in this episode, we talk about relationships, how she's low-key using ancestral beauty. We talk about female empowerment. We talk about shattering male spaces and having the confidence to do so. We talk about being in your 20s and finding self-love. We talk about normalizing things like queefing. We talk about athletics. We talk about movement. We talk about her routine
Starting point is 00:01:52 before she gets on stage. So many great topics, guys. I know you are going to love it. I also have a very exciting announcement. Today, our brand new product for Bloom just dropped. And this is the biggest drop we've ever done. It's in a brand new category. You guys may know what it is by now because I have been teasing it nonstop. In fact, Hannah and I are sipping on this new product in the episode. If you watch the video, she loved it. It is Bloom's new sparkling energy drink. I cannot believe I'm able to say this out loud, guys. We are launching a freaking energy drink. I just felt like there was nothing
Starting point is 00:02:33 in the female energy drink space that spoke to me. I've tried a million things. They hurt my stomach. They make me anxious. They don't taste good. There's no benefits. Just so many problems to me with the female energy drink space. my stomach. They make me anxious. They don't taste good. There's no benefits. Like just so many problems to me with the female energy drink space. I was like, I need to make the Bloom Girls
Starting point is 00:02:51 a better option. And that's exactly what we did. We are launching with four delicious flavors, raspberry lemon, cherry lime, peach mango, and strawberry watermelon. They are already on Target shelves. Many of you have been tagging me, posting reviews. You've been loving them. They actually hit the shelves sooner than anticipated. And guys, it is so wild. When you go to your Target, ask someone working there, please show me where the Bloom Energy drinks are. We are taking over the shelves. I know you guys are going to be absolutely obsessed. It's made with cleaner ingredients, made with natural caffeine, prebiotics, zero sugar, the amazing energy boost you want without the crash or jitters or anxiety, zero grams of sugar, no artificial colors or flavors or aspartame. Amazing benefits, increases energy and focus.
Starting point is 00:03:43 It boosts metabolism and promotes mental focus and mood. Plus it just tastes so freaking good. You crack open a cold can, it's fizzy, it's sparkly. My personal favorite flavor is cherry lime, but people have also been loving the strawberry watermelon. They are all so, so good. I cannot believe this is happening right now. Like we've been working on this project for about two years at this point. The can is so cute and stunning. Please tag me when you go and get it and please try all the flavors and let me know what your favorite one is. We really want to know. And let us know what you want to see next in terms of flavors. I can't wait for you guys to
Starting point is 00:04:21 try this. It really has been like the hardest secret I've ever had to keep. With that said, let's hop into this episode with Hannah Berner. I know you guys are going to love it. Hannah, I'm freaking out. You know I'm a giggler. Like we've been sitting here for 15 minutes and I know everything about you. I'm like, how's the summer? Like, what are you doing? So do you want to tell them the first thing you actually said to me?
Starting point is 00:04:42 What was the first thing I said? Oh, you're tall. I like your height. That actually was the first thing. The second thing she goes, I usually have doctors on the pod. I'm so, guys, I meant it in the best way because I'm usually scrambling with my notes and my verbiage, but here I know everything about you and I'm ready. No, I love that.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I also want to let the people know this will be educational. And that laughter is a form of wellness. As is queefing. It's a release. It's a release. This is a wellness. This may be like my most wellness show of them all. Period.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Period. Period. Anyway, I wanted to know if you're okay. Because you have done 50 podcasts this week. I haven't. Shut up. You just released your Netflix special. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:33 You did a launch party sponsored by Popeyes. Don't think that went unnoticed. I was like, why is Popeyes tagged in every frame? And then I realized. Okay, so I wanted an ice luge at the party. And they were like, okay, well, it it'd be expensive we should get a sponsor and i was like put out feelers who wants to be a part of the party and they were like they literally as a joke were like how do you feel about popeyes and i was like this is my dream this is my dream and then it was also red bull and under armor too okay and someone was like is this like a sports illustrated party like how did this happen
Starting point is 00:06:03 it's like a football party um it was great you know what i've been running on pure adrenaline i'm not gonna lie it's the body is so weird like i'm still don't understand card cortisol and all those things cortisol whatever you say however you say it but i think i have it yeah you have it i think you have it diagnosed i was on such a high because there's these times in your life where you like things happen to you that are really exciting and I'm actually not as comfortable with like that kind of joy I'm better at like the chaos kind of frustrated a little annoyed at myself that's like my standard so sad so I was just like oh my god this is so happy and I had all this energy and then after like six days of it, I'm like crashing.
Starting point is 00:06:47 I mean, I'm so grateful that you're here. I feel horrible, actually. No, no, no. I wanted to come so, so bad because also I, wellness is actually like so integral to everything I've ever done. Yeah. And I want to normalize it within artistic communities. Period.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And I mean, you're so right. Like the things that you do, you're on stage, you're podcasting, you wrote a book. That's crazy. These things require wellness. Well, I've always been obsessed
Starting point is 00:07:16 with like these top performing singers like Taylor Swift. She doesn't just perform and then happen upon performing the next day. Like I know there's regimens. I know there's like the right kind of eating and recovery. And as a former tennis player, that stuff was so important to me. So now I'm realizing like for me to be at my best,
Starting point is 00:07:36 just because I'm just talking doesn't mean that I don't have to focus on my mental health. It's a performance like anything else. What is the pre stand up like routine? Is there a ritual backstage? I know you don't drink that much, but like, are you having alcohol before you go on? Great question. So a typical day when I'm like over the last three,
Starting point is 00:07:58 four years when I've been touring, I'll have like three or four shows in a row sporadically throughout the month. So I wake up, I go to LaGuardia, I say hi to my clear people. I get on the plane. You don't have clear. You have clear? I have clear. Oh.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Or are we judging? I have TSA pre too. Okay, okay. Oh yeah. But clear has been a shorter line than TSA. It's like, it's a whole thing. Whenever I go on one, the other one moves faster. And that's just like the things I have to deal with. I go on one, the other one moves faster. And that's
Starting point is 00:08:25 just like the things I have to deal with. I think I have clear as well. But anyway, digital ID is I thought it was a scam. Is it not? I mean, everything at the end of the day could be a scam. It's all a scam. And we this life is a scam. In conclusion, in conclusion, and I'm leaving now. No, but I I'm good at sleeping on planes because I'm like a child. The second anything starts moving, I'm like, I'm knocked out. So that's really good. I get to the hotel. I don't work out.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I'm not going to the gym. I try to hydrate a little bit, but I hate water. I think it's boring. So I love throwing things in it like bloom. I like anything that's a little like flavored and fun i want a fun little drink then i i sleep i keep sleeping so people are like hannah you're so busy i'm asleep let's say i have the seven o'clock show yeah and it takes like 20 minutes to get there i'll wake up at 5 30 and i'll do my makeup and i play music so you do your own makeup for a show i do my
Starting point is 00:09:24 own makeup for stand-up shows. Okay. Because getting your makeup done can be really time consuming. I also feel like we are competing against like male stand-ups. And if we're like putting so much time into hair and makeup and styling all the time,
Starting point is 00:09:37 like it just gets exhausting. These guys are just rolling up with a hoodie like a kid that just got detention. Yeah. So I'd rather sleep than get my makeup done and I've gotten actually very good at like 15 minutes do my makeup I think it's because I did reality tv I like learned how to be like camera ready almost I also think it makes you more relatable like I feel like if you were on stage full glam oh yeah and telling us a crazy
Starting point is 00:10:02 story yeah like I almost feel more connected when someone I don't you know what I mean 100% I think you also have to feel like yourself on stage for the joke to work it's like if you're wearing an outfit that doesn't feel like you you don't you're not as confident in yourself so I have to feel like myself on stage and people will sometimes make fun of my outfit or something but there's always a story behind it like why don't you wear those shoes and it's like because my feet were bleeding because I did like three shows in a row and I couldn't wear them anymore like I put a blazer on because I felt bloated like there's reasons because I'm performing I'm not just like modeling at an event we're not on a runway exactly
Starting point is 00:10:37 um respect to runways for respect to the models so but before a show I wake up I do my makeup and then I uber whatever head to the venue and I chug Gatorade zero ice what color the like clear color because I don't want to like dye my lips okay but it's like a weird thing of like I don't want to be consuming a lot of like calories and sugar all the time. And I don't even know what's in Gatorade ice. But I feel like it's better than like. I don't know either. A Sprite.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah, for sure. So I like chug that. It's also giving tennis. It was it reminds me of my junior days because back in the day, millennial girls like we were drinking Gatorade, Powerade. Yeah. And that stuff was crack cocaine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Like the full. I think I skipped that because stuff was crack cocaine. Yeah. Like the full. I think I skipped that because I was in England. Good. You know. I glow in the dark now. Support for today's episode comes from Honeylove. Honeylove has revolutionized the bra game. Say goodbye to underwire bras without
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Starting point is 00:14:03 but I love drinks that are flavored. And then sometimes I'll have a tea I'll do something like that but I love drinks that are flavored and then sometimes I'll have a banana sometimes I'm like obsessed I have a fear of being hungry I know I have that one here I'm so scared I do as well I had a huge smoothie before this I don't know I some people like a little blood sugar I don't know if it's that but like let's just say the day's ruined when I get hungry yeah and I'm like so weak when I'm like, I act like I haven't eaten in years when I ate like two minutes ago. Have you seen that TikTok trend where it's like waste where?
Starting point is 00:14:30 No. Like when you have one crumb and you're like waste where? One what? A crumb. That's what the girls are saying. Like if you were to do something that was like skinny behavior,
Starting point is 00:14:39 quote unquote. Yeah. You'd say waste where? Question mark. Oh, waste away. No, waste where? Oh, waste where? Yeah, like where is she oh yeah it's so fun yeah i'm just hungry i'm literally it reminds me of did you see train wreck with amy schumer uh did i oh yes there's a moment where she's talking to the doctor and she's like
Starting point is 00:14:57 i'm so hungry and he's like what'd you have today and she was like i just had like a bagel and like chips and like a tuna fish sandwich and then i did have a banana and she just like keeps going yeah that is so me yeah um what snacks do you keep in my rider people make fun of me i have turkey okay i did have a phase where i said hard-boiled eggs because i researched that it was like good for you and then people were it was disgusting like it was not like because they'll just find something from a deli and get it for you and then like pre-boiled yeah it would like upset everyone in the room and it smelled um so i honestly you don't eat that much before because like your stomach is there's so much adrenaline but you have a little and then the
Starting point is 00:15:40 problem is when you get off stage let's say say it's like nine, sometimes 10, you're starving. So then you have to like make a good decision. I will order like enchiladas in Missouri. Like I'll do crazy shit on Uber Eats when I get home, depending on my mood. It's really hard to eat healthy on the road. Yeah, it is because there's food deserts out there. Like I was in Arkansas the other day for meetings nothing nothing nothing and not even an option for like a salad sometimes so I'll try to like have protein but like my body I'm like a dog like I have to be run and like my whole life like my parents were just like put her on a court put her somewhere and let her just run it out so the fact that I've not been able to like move that much was pretty like not healthy for me so this summer I've taken up tennis again now that I've not been able to like move that much was pretty like not healthy for me so this summer
Starting point is 00:16:25 I've taken up tennis again now that I have some time and it's crazy how like everything feels better now that I'm moving my body it's like you crave healthier foods your mood's a little better and you also just feel better about yourself 100% like you're more positive thinking but it's not I can't fucking play tennis all year so I don't know what I'm gonna do I mean in New York City is there an option for that? there's some indoor stuff
Starting point is 00:16:49 I mean I love hip hop yoga I know that's my go to are we still like hip hop yoga-ing? obsessed
Starting point is 00:16:56 really? I mean during the summer it's hard cause it's hot so I you're not like wanting to go to a hot yoga class exactly and I haven't been in the city
Starting point is 00:17:04 but like I swear by it during the year like I'll get pissed off about like the littlest thing like you know when you just can't get it off your mind you're like annoyed at yourself or something i'm just like i have to go to yoga like i'm not even logically trying to figure out my anxiety i'm just going to yoga and that's like really helped me i think physical exercise is the best antidepressant i really do. And I even was talking to my therapist recently and I was like, sometimes I feel like I don't need to talk about stuff. And I actually just like should be playing tennis right now. You're like, I'm actually firing you. No, but I have to sometimes just release it physically. Cause like I'm a talker. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:17:40 look, I've been talking about myself all week in 400 podcasts. I don't need to talk about myself to my therapist too. I get that. And like, everyone knows my problems anyway. I'm like, look, I've been talking about myself all week in 400 podcasts. I don't need to talk about myself to my therapist too. I get that. And like everyone knows my problems anyway. I can't shut up. So like, I think I needed to go for a walk. And I'm sure as a previous athlete where you were moving so much and it was such a big part of your life, it must be difficult to like go from that to staying up late and you're on stage and you have to order something afterwards. Like that transition is kind of tricky definitely my body responds very quickly once i get back in the workout habits they're it's like oh i know this this is familiar but um like i'm 32 now and you have to like keep moving if you don't move it you lose it right yeah and we're doing the worm on stage do you practice that you know I don't technically
Starting point is 00:18:28 do it like I do it like backwards worm technically and I just like I think I just like tried it in college once and people reacted and I was like this is me now this is my move it's my personality this is my whole personality I would like get stuck on like the bar floor like all the sticky beer from doing the worm and be like that wasn't worth it but I did it at Call Her Daddy's first live show yeah that's where it originated yeah because I was like kind of insecure that um I was the first guest because she was like it's a surprise guest I'm like people are gonna think it's Miley Cyrus no I think it made so much sense i think it made sense but at the time i was like i just want these people to be happy that it's me yeah so i was like i need to go on stage and fucking blow their minds because
Starting point is 00:19:13 like just me is not enough so i started doing the worm she's dying it kind of went like viral and then i became a where people started yeah i became a worm i'm a worm i'm a worm. People started, yeah, do the worm. I became a worm. I'm a worm now. All the worms are jealous of me. They're like, that's the head worm. So now I do the worm. But I think like being physical has always brought joy in my life too. Like I forget that I can play tennis and I'm doing it. I'm like, oh, this is a part of you and this is good. And it's really good for your self-esteem.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Totally. To get out of your head. To show up for yourself. Yes. And I feel like your your show on Netflix was pretty physical thank you yeah it's funny because with my stand-up comedy style I wasn't I was never trying to like um replicate anyone I did love watching Chelsea lately growing up but I remember people being like wow your physical humor is really good and I like never
Starting point is 00:20:04 thought about it but then as you're on stage you can practice like okay what'll make this bit laugh but I remember people being like wow your physical humor is really good and I like never thought about it but then as you're on stage you can practice like okay what'll make this bit laugh even harder if I like act it out if I like make a face so you're always testing like what different body movements can help the joke hit harder yeah and I picked my outfit so I could be physical I said did you pick it or did Paige pick it so I actually picked it and Paige like confirmed she approved it yeah like it had to go through approval processes and did she really do the spray tan yes she physically did the spray like you can look at on YouTube we vlogged it she she didn't she literally put it on her glove and painted me
Starting point is 00:20:42 like Michelangelo no fully naked justully naked, just like a full. Fully naked. I kept my underwear on because I just was like, we're not ready for that. Like Paige and I barely hug. So like, but she was, it was like pure, just like artists doing her work. And she was so serious. And she was like sending me all these updates. It's just so cute when Paige, like Paige also has a side to her.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Like she is caretaking. Like she loves squeezing pimples. She'll do that or she'll pull out my gray hairs. Some best friendship. That's us. That's girlhood. I just love seeing her in the credits. Well, we had a joke that they literally will just message you things like, okay, we need to do your special things.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Who do you want in it? And I'm like, I don't know. Like, so I'm like writing all these names. And then I was like, Paige, it would be so funny if I put you in a special no thanks. And she was like, do that, do that. And I'm like, no, I don't want to so I'm like writing all these names and then I was like Paige might be so funny if I put you in a special no thanks and she was like do that do that and I'm like no I don't want to like people to think cause drama or cause stupid drama so then I didn't even tell her I just put her in the spray tan no I'm obsessed it was like the best shout out for Paige and anyone who knows Giggly Squad or your dynamic it was perfect it was it was funny and also like having a best friend to um laugh with definitely helped my hour come together because like i even showed her the beginning of
Starting point is 00:21:50 the special and just like watched what parts she like giggled at just to make sure you're just like staring i lose i was like what air is coming out of her nose when she's watching this so like i test so much material on her do you test it on on Giggly? A hundred percent. Okay. Sometimes it's on purpose, but sometimes it's like, I just want to make Paige laugh and make the Gigglers laugh. And when something hits really hard, I'll be like,
Starting point is 00:22:13 okay, I want to try that on stage. My Nick Cannon bit, the ending bit about vibrators was a line I did at a Giggly Squad live show that like the crowd loved. And I take out my phone and she's like are you texting during this live show and I'm like no I have to write what I just said down because I'll forget it yeah and like this is a good bit I feel like I hear so many moments on
Starting point is 00:22:35 your show where I'm like that hit the whole I think the birth control story stemmed from Giggly Squad so like you can actually see when I first say something and then develop it into like a full joke with a lot of tags and bits. But it is definitely like creativity you can't force. Like the Delta headphones. Was that the first time on Giggly? That was the first time on Giggly. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And that just became a thing. I haven't figured out how to convert it. I think there's something funny about not trusting like the... You're low-key a biohacker by the way the fact that you use wired headphones when i heard you say that i was like wait is she like a biohacker low-key but she's like you know no it's never that deep with us like it's never deep at all me interpreting i'm like oh she's like worried about emf it's so funny no i'm like i don't know it's i'm just i don't trust myself because i'll lose anything smaller and not connected i took a
Starting point is 00:23:23 delta flight here and it was the first time I noticed them handing out headphones. That's the best part of the trip. Yeah. Well, the lady next to me took them and I was like, this is insane. Like people really take these fucking headphones. Paige and I do talk about wellness a lot though, but we're like very different with it. Paige is the person that will like buy everything and try everything to the point that I'm like, maybe you have too many serums on your face and you're clogging all of your fucking pores
Starting point is 00:23:49 yeah where I I'm leaning into like what do they call it um minimalism minimalism but also not on purpose just because I'm lazy oh um it's called like not retrograde beauty but there's there's this like beauty now where they're basically saying like less is more. Try to be like what our ancestors were. Yes. What did they do? Yes. And I believe in that so much because we're fighting capitalism every day.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And it's like what works? Stick to it. And you can't. There is a high of being like I found a new thing that's good. Like snail mucin is going to solve all my problems. And I won't. And like if it does great, it works for you. But like, we keep consuming. Has Paige tried it? Yes. Okay. She's tried everything. I haven't tried it. She's tried
Starting point is 00:24:33 everything. Okay. Well, what you're doing is called ancestral living, I think, right? Oh my God. Wait, my head just got so big. New bio. New bio. Changing my bio right now. Ancestral living. I love that you called it retrograde beauty. That sounds like a brand. Obsessed. That's your next drop. On top of everything else you're doing. Yeah. Ancestral living. I'm a big fan. I think whatever we were doing back then must have been working, right? Yeah. You know? Well, and it's also there's, it's almost the concept of beauty sometimes where I feel like you have to listen to your body. And if you're like constantly just like forcing stuff
Starting point is 00:25:12 or trying to fit into like different norms, I try to just lean into like, everyone's different, find what works for you. And, but that's a lot of experimenting and stuff. A hundred percent. But I also sometimes just feel like less is more is not going to hurt you. I mean, you have beautiful skin though. Oh my God. Thank you. I think it's because it's ancestors. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I love my angels. No, like my grandma. Have you seen my grandma? Nana still got it. No. Can I actually see her? Do you have your phone? I don't.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Can you show me off? Because I've showed you after so many times. She needs to come on the pod, but she's 83, has never had any work done. She's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. To the point that whenever she walks into a room, everyone goes, like she's a star. But she's like so diligent. Like she stays out of the sun. She sleeps on her back like she's in a coffin.
Starting point is 00:26:03 She loves like ferulic acid or something how do you even hyaluronic she does like hyaluronic she has like her certain serum she uses and she just like is glowing so i i'm manifesting that i'm gonna look like her you will like i'm gonna look better through throughout my life 100 have you brought her on stage? Yes. No. She's hysterical too. She's like an Italian from Brooklyn, New York. Obsessed. And the crowd was like chanting Nana.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And her whole life, I think like she loved Hollywood and she always wanted to be like a creative person. But like back then you're 18, you get married, you raise kids. So it was like this beautiful moment of like at any age you can chase your dream. Oh my god. And she's amazing. Like she has a following on Instagram. Like she's literally an 83 year old influencer, just like loving life. She might be the only one. She may be. I mean, there's a couple grandmas on TikTok, but I don't think they're running their own accounts. She runs an account. My little cousin like helps her sometimes, but my papa's taking the photos of her in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:27:07 No. Full team effort. It's a full team. I'm the manager. Does she do brand deals? We did a brand deal together for Thanksgiving. It was incredible. We like did this thing in a kitchen and it was so funny because she walked over and her only job in the beginning of it was to open the fridge and she like couldn't open the fridge because she's so like dainty and cute um but she was hilarious and it's just it's I love seeing women of all ages just like continue to chase their dreams I talk a lot about getting blood work done on the show. I think it is the best way to understand what's going on with your body, whether you're struggling with fertility, acne, stomach problems,
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Starting point is 00:29:20 what the feedback you get is on that and like are men in the crowd like what is the feedback you get from men good question i mean i feel like the even concept we write of at dawn is this kind of overall idea of like the girls are here we're ready to laugh like regardless of a man texted us back or not like we're living life we're focusing on ourselves the whole concept of like de-centering men and it's coming from not like oh I know all these things about life it's because I was boy crazy I did see value in like a man liking me and I have like had bad nights with my girlfriends because I was obsessing over a dude and I didn't want to be there and like we all are like that at times yeah but I realized
Starting point is 00:30:01 once I started focusing on myself and realized that like if a dude is hurting my mental health like you're not an asset and I don't want you around me and it was like a super powerful thing and I think it just happens when you're as you're growing and maturing so my comedy is kind of realizing that like I like interrupting male spaces I did that with sports I've I've done it I'm just like comfortable in it and I like to be like the women are here and we're fucking hilarious comedy's made for women we're love to gossip we love to complain we overanalyze that's literally stand-up comedy and growing up I was very competitive with other women because I was a tennis player. So it was literally like you show up, you see a girl, she's trying to beat you. And I think there was like pretty intense jealousy when I was younger of like girls who were ranked higher than me.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And that kind of intensity, it made me have to mature and be like, you can't live your life like hating people. Like you have to. I had to learn to cope with jealousy at a young age. And then once I got out of tennis, I was like, wait, all these girls are on my team now. Like we're all in this together. And once I realized that it was like fucking powerful. And then once I started collaborating like creatively with women, it just became so much fun. I think my whole concept of man on the street talking to men was is not like a man versus woman. It's like us wanting to understand men better and them trying to understand us more.
Starting point is 00:31:29 But we have to start the conversation. So I'm basically just like I want women to be thrown into the comedy space. And I think it's it's been difficult. I mean, I'm going on a feminist rant right now. But like more women are not in stand up comedy comedy because health-wise it's very difficult like it means 11 p.m you have to go to bars in Brooklyn with like a lot of drunk people mostly men tell your jokes that may not land with this crowd go home late at night on the subway a lot of girls are just like I'm funny but this is not for me clearly so I hope that this special
Starting point is 00:32:04 can connect with some girls to see like you don't have to take that traditional route and you can express yourself through the art of humor yeah um just in different ways and you don't have to get like picked by a man to do it what does that path because i feel like when i think of comedy i think of like netflix special or nikki glazer or like this kind of like upper epsilon of comedy, I think of like Netflix special or Nikki Glaser or like this kind of like upper epsilon of comedy. What does like the beginning look like? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Great question. My beginning was depression. Period. To be so honest, after I graduated from University of Wisconsin, I was like the captain of the tennis team, but I decided like I don't want to go pro and I literally felt like broken like what was that decision by the way
Starting point is 00:32:50 that decision was based on becoming a pro tennis player is really difficult because you're basically an entrepreneur you only get paid when you win you have to travel all over you have to pay for your coaches your equipment I just financially didn't feel like I was in a place to do it and had felt burnt out and I just was like I feel like there's a creative side to me that I was suppressing it's not like I like very early on I showed like athletic prowess and was like thrown into it like eight years old like that's all I did when like before that like I loved painting I loved acting like I really had a creative bone do people say that I just said it creative bone yeah creative bone so creative soul creative soul
Starting point is 00:33:31 so I basically was like I feel like I've been suppressing like a side of me so after college I was just like trying to find something that worked and I actually I wanted to get into video but this took like five years to even admit that i wanted attention in that way no like admitting that you want to take up space is it takes balls um and i think when i found out that like you could get paid for being funny i was like no also like you can't i always thought that you have you had to struggle and hate what you were doing to be like a champion like champions were the people who work the hardest and like were grinding through and dealt with the pain I never thought that you could find something you liked and then like be
Starting point is 00:34:15 great at something it just wasn't how I was learned about life yeah so but once I started making funny videos in the beginning that was when I was like oh like this I actually really like this and I don't care if I make any money ever this is like I feel alive I feel like myself so most people get into comedy by doing they start doing open mics and then they just kind of like hope that people put them on lineups then you start getting more spots and it's like it's a long road I started creating content online because for women it is like safer and easier yeah for us and then it it really just I kind of kept putting myself out there and then have done a lot of things in
Starting point is 00:34:57 entertainment I've done from podcasting to reality tv to interviews like I just like to create and then stand up kind of I didn't even want to be a stand up like it kind of was like a dare from my friend one day. Were you terrified the first time? I was not terrified but I felt like I might deal with performance anxiety like I did with tennis I had a lot of pressure on myself with tennis so I was like oh maybe those demons are gonna come back and I'm gonna choke and I went on stage and I felt like eerily calm and I never felt like that with tennis and it's one of those things there's like a meme going around of this little girl trying to kick a soccer ball and she like whiffs it and then she does like a backflip to go the back of the line they're like you're not bad you're just like doing the wrong thing and I literally was like oh I'm a performer but I
Starting point is 00:35:51 wasn't meant to do it in that kind of environment with all these rules and like coaches yelling at you like I'm mean enough to myself I don't need that so comedy I was like wait you don't lose you just express yourself you're making people laugh and I'm only doing it for me I'm like, wait, you don't lose. You just express yourself. You're making people laugh. And I'm only doing it for me. I'm like, this is fucking cool. Yeah. And then I think I coached myself in comedy the way I wish I was coached in tennis. Like I, my past career helped me mentally be prepared for this. Do you feel like you bring the discipline you had in tennis to comedy because I feel like
Starting point is 00:36:25 you work your butt off my discipline's insane yeah I think there's some people who are genius creatives who like won't respond to an email where like I'm psychotic where I'm like this is the strategy for this month and we're and these are this my to-do list and this is what I want to get better at and I have to learn this and I want to hire someone to do that like I'm obsessed with the entrepreneurship of it I'm obsessed with the entrepreneurship of it. I'm obsessed with the marketing of it. I love video editing. Like I love the really the creating of it.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Like when it came to my special, like I was obsessed with the set design, the outfit, the lighting. Like I loved every detail of it. And it just like I just feel like a little kid that's painting yeah and the fact that I posted the special and people are like enjoying it is like probably like the greatest feeling I've ever had I can't even imagine like seeing your face on Netflix it's crazy too because we had so many edits like one day I sat for 10 hours in the editing booth with the editor just like going through everything you're questioning yourself and you're like is this good I don't know so there's so many like mental breakdowns because it's an hour long how long was it in
Starting point is 00:37:36 real life so each show is probably like an hour 15 we did two okay and then you like cut them together same outfit same outfit no It's back to back shows. So like your hair is the same, your makeup's the same. Oh, and then you cut together the best bits. Wow. I had no idea. Yeah. Movie magic. It's it is it is fun because you never film yourself. It's mostly just live performances. So to think of it as like a special that's filmed was like a fun thing for me to do lives forever yeah i love what you said about like feeling like you have to struggle to succeed because i've been through that before as well and i kind of have a hard time even now yeah with this show learning to just enjoy it
Starting point is 00:38:17 and have fun and not be like insanely intense about everything yeah how have you gone from like the rigid mindset you had in tennis yes to having more self-love now so I feel like my cheat code was when I realized that I could be nice to myself I and that the voices in my head were not really me like the voices were past coaches and like bullies like that the negative voices did not have to I didn't have to listen to them and then beating myself up realizing like that's just negative energy and like you're just poisoning yourself and once I realized that you it's not what happens to you it's how you react to it and one thing with me is like I fail all the time but like I'm feeling upward all the time. So like I will always just like do it and I won't overthink it.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I won't think I'm cringe for it. I won't overanalyze it. I won't be embarrassed by it. I'm just always moving. Just keep moving. Just keep swimming. And some would say, yes, I sometimes need to stop and like process an emotion or like think about things.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I love working because I'm like, I'd rather chase a dream than sit here and question the meaning of life. One hundred percent. So that's my, you know, that's my downfall. Call me alone. You work so hard, but I'm like, I'm running from my emotions. Yeah. But I'd rather be addicted to like creating.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I feel like I can tell when someone's doing that because I'm doing it. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? But that's what people will be so impressed. They're like, how do you have a podcast when someone's doing that. Cause I'm doing it. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Well, people will be so impressed. They're like, how do you have a podcast and a business you're running and this? And I'm like, cause I'm afraid of myself.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I'm running away from my own thoughts. Like I cannot be alone. Literally for two hours. You're like spiraling. No, I can't be alone. When Des leaves, are you like,
Starting point is 00:40:00 do you know what's funny? I actually love being alone, but it's cause I have a cat. Butters. Butter. So I, being alone. In my accent, by the way, butter. Butter.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I could not have a pet called butter. Butter. Butter. Wait, I love your accent. British people are so cool. And you guys also have a great like dry sense of humor, which I'm obsessed with. My dad roasts me.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I can't hang out with him. He makes me feel horrible about myself. Because I grew up in America from age 10 onwards. So like, I think I have an American sense of humor at this point. Yeah. But he doesn't. That's why your accent is like not traditional. It's hybrid. You've seen this whole Clinton-Kane situation. Yes. I'm worried that people are going to think I'm lying because of him. Your husband's about to do a tiktok who is she does she even have a bloom company because i watched his videos the guy yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:40:55 i don't see i don't know him i don't yeah i don't know i don't want to cause any additional drama but like he sounds kind of like me yeah i was like oh frick people are gonna think i'm lying it's so funny. But I just have a hybrid voice at this point. Well, I'm from Brooklyn, New York. And people are like, you don't sound like it. And it's like, I do. I'm not even putting it on.
Starting point is 00:41:14 That's so funny. When I listen to you, I'm like, oh, she's so New York. You should hear my husband. I have. He's like beyond New York. Okay, we love. He's like, you guys are meant to be. Sopranos.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Shit. Like they don't make him like him anymore the accents I love that you found him though that was crazy your kids are gonna be so annoying yeah well no like we're so worried our kids are gonna be insane or like at least like the most sarcastic assholes everyone around you like worried about it people ask me a lot of questions and I was like let me because it's a lot when people ask you constantly when you're having kids people do it to me too well the latest joke in the most recent giggly squad episode was that how women they get married and everyone's like when you're gonna have a kid when you're gonna have a kid and i go
Starting point is 00:41:57 literally no one's asked me that like yeah what are they trying to say like people did ask people don't think in my q a okay maybe i just block it maybe i block it or people were like no people just say that because you're a comedian and female comedians don't have babies um ali wong hello i feel like being pregnant on stage would be hilarious it's so funny because some male comics have been joking like oh our girl's getting pregnant for the bit and i'm like no it's called being a woman and being 34 and being like let's have a baby now it's not a bit it's not a bit but it would kind of add to like i feel like you could do a lot with that well we joke that like the content would be next level
Starting point is 00:42:35 i it's always hard to think about like as a content creator you have these cute babies and like do you want to show them or not i know i i probably i don't want to say because i know i'll just be like the cutest kid ever and it's probably gonna be ugly and i'm like but i feel like i you you have to talk about them on stage because that's your life yeah and it's made comedians whole careers i mean jim gaffigan kevin hart like it's all about family but um burt kreischer yes and i think from the female perspective it'll be interesting because i'm not like a caretaker so that could be really funny that is funny yeah like you're coming from just trying to get all the moms to just like quiet quit yeah like that that that
Starting point is 00:43:15 movie bad moms or whatever it was that could be your vibe and i also just feel like it's an accessory yeah so you could do the movement maybe not the worm oh yeah but it's like it's an accessory. Yeah. So you could do the movement. Maybe not the worm. Oh, yeah. But it's funny. Being pregnant is hilarious. Yeah, it could be a whole thing. You're like waddle and stuff. Where were we even before we started talking about this? Feminism. Feminism, period.
Starting point is 00:43:32 No, but I do think that I like being, I said, like a mouthpiece for like stuff girls are afraid to talk about, especially with our bodies. And I try to take advantage of the fact that it takes a lot for me to get embarrassed, not because I think I'm cool or anything and just because I think I've like been embarrassed enough that I'm like I can handle this trauma so I think it makes girls feel
Starting point is 00:43:51 I don't want girls to be afraid of like being bloated farting weird stuff in the bedroom because that's how the patriarchy keeps us down period I think the queefing bit was like the standout for me it's my favorite line I'm also am I just going to ruin this special? No.
Starting point is 00:44:06 My favorite line, which I'll say is, stop saying I queefed, you queefed me. And then I added to that, which is, and I know that for a fact because I've never queefed alone. And I had a girl message me yesterday being like, I queefed last night and normally I would be so embarrassed. But after watching your special, I literally was like, you queefed me, dude. That's why we why we do you should be embarrassed with your weird ass technique
Starting point is 00:44:27 that you're like pumping me with air figure it out and you're like that's why i do this that's and that's what i bring to this world no but you're so right like you really do normalize weird stuff that we experience like yeah even you talking about discharge on giggly squad made me feel better about myself and i also think it's kind of fun that you don't have to be like oh i'm ugly and stupid and funny like i like the fact that i could one second be talking about like something i accomplished i'm really proud of and the next thing talking about queefing like i want women to be multifaceted like you can be a boss badass and depressed like we can be so many things and we could be funny but also hot and sexy like i really want i feel like so much of comedy back in the day was like you had to be
Starting point is 00:45:16 the ugly friend to have a sense of humor and the pretty girl can't be funny and it's like girls are not one-dimensional like that and we have sides of ourself that we suppress because we're trying to fit these like character molds that were written by men was Nikki Glaser like a crazy moment for comedy well the crazy thing about Nikki is she she's inspired me for a long time when I first started comedy she took me around to like the clubs in the city and I just like followed her around and I must have been so annoying because like at one point I just asked her, I'm like, how do you remember all these jokes? Like, how do you say like I was asking her just like every comedy question I could think of. I actually also have that question.
Starting point is 00:45:54 No, it's because when you don't know it, it looks insane. Yeah. I was like, how are you doing this? And she had me on her pod. I had her on my pod and she's been killing roasts for a long time and i was at the behind cam right the roast behind kim iconic and they only had her and sam jay as the only girls in the whole thing and i'm like these women making fun of football players is our favorite thing to do and they should have had more women on
Starting point is 00:46:26 the lineup i think it would have added more like fun different energy but she had a lot of pressure yeah like she went on stage and i was like she's she's representing all women in this moment yeah and she not only like smashed but she just like everyone was just like this is insane and i think it was super powerful for women to just take up space and show that we can be so many things including hilarious including hilarious I want to talk to you about your career path and a lot of the girls had questions about confidence because so I didn't even know you were on reality tv by the way back in the day I found you on it's called hand on the streets right yes that's how I found you back in the beginning, by the way. Back in the day. I found you on, it's called Han on the Streets, right?
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yes. That's how I found you. Back in the beginning, TikTok. Because you kind of came up during like COVID TikTok, right? You know, I actually was doing reality TV during COVID and I was very into Instagram. I was a little late to TikTok. Really?
Starting point is 00:47:18 Like end of COVID, I got into TikTok. It's so funny because I think about you as like this TikTok comedian that I found you back then. But that, after reality TV, I started posting a ton to TikTok because I was like, oh, I really want to get my own like voice again. Like I want to create my own content. And that was really like the TikTok like saved to living your dream and like building the confidence over time? all about finding the right alignment because I know that when I'm in the right space like the people around you are going to feel good your energy is going to feel good and I'm honestly I think my expectations were really low I was like I want to wake up and be happy like I don't care to like win an award or like get things I just want to wake up and be happy. And once that becomes your only goal
Starting point is 00:48:25 and you're obsessed with that process, then the results just kind of come and you don't even care about them that much because you're just like we're waking up and we're trying to find joy again and we're trying to find ourselves. So I think that it was just I was young in my 20s trying on different identities and trying on different experiences and like it's like dating like you're gonna have shitty experiences and then you can be like oh I suck now and like everyone hates me or you can be like okay that was not for me and I'm gonna remember that in the future I'm gonna learn from it and I also love um a challenge like I love when people count me out i love when people like yeah don't want me to succeed it's just i'm sicilian so it just gives me like a superpower and i don't even want to
Starting point is 00:49:15 like i don't even want to do it at this point i just have to it's just yeah it's your born right spite is just so powerful and i don't even want to feel it. Okay. This is the first time we talked about spite on your wellness pod. This section's called spite. The title of the special, I'm obsessed. We write at dawn. Oh my God, thank you. It gives me revolution vibes.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yes, yes. This is a revolution. Yes. How did you land on that? Okay, so I've been looking for titles for like a long time. I feel like titles either come to you immediately or it like never comes to you so i have a notes app of like hundreds of titles i wanted to do like choking and i'd like hot mic i had like so many options but nothing was hitting
Starting point is 00:49:56 you made me you creeped me and there's all these i wanted to do hand solo like star wars and they're like you can't do that so we ride at dawn was a meme that i saw going around and people on tiktok were like when they were really into something or actually my friend was going through a breakup and we were at this party and one of the girls like we were all together like holding her and one of the girls was like we ride at dawn i remember being like that that is the energy i want for my special they're like no we're having a moment no i was like and they're like hannah this is not about you and i'm like that's what i want for my special. They're like, no, we're having a moment. No, I was like, and they're like, Hannah, this is not about you. And I'm like, that's what I want for my special. But that's literally what happened.
Starting point is 00:50:29 She said, we ride at dawn. I said, oh my God. And I love when the title is like actually in the standup. Yeah. So the funny thing is it actually wasn't in the bit. Because I have this joke about women having guns. How women are the only people that should be allowed to have guns. And then I added it at a
Starting point is 00:50:45 certain point where i yell we ride at dawn after and it was a moment because you like looked at the it was like a moment i was like yes title it's funny the first one i said it kind of like softly and powerful and they were like no yell it so the second time i yelled it yeah and it it just i just feel like powerful and i think it's just as a 32 year old girly, there's a lot of pain in your 20s. And I hope that like it just makes these girls in their 20s watching and 30s and 40s feel a little bit just like they have a friend who's protecting them. Like that's kind of what I wanted to put out there. You give the big sister energy. I wanted to just be like, I'm not gonna let people fuck with you because I'm saying it's OK.
Starting point is 00:51:23 You can queef. You can not call the ambulance on your husband. like i'm not gonna let people fuck with you because i'm saying it's okay you can queef you can fucking not call the ambulance on your husband and you are perfect the way you are is that about des with his knee yeah poor des you okay he's okay he was skiing yeah on a black and he is good at skiing like he's heli skied or whatever they call it. But he hurt himself in Aspen. No one felt bad because it's in Aspen. And it was a whole thing. And I was just like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Aspen has become really crazy. Crazy? It's the first time I ever went. And that's why I was annoyed because I wanted to have, like, a beautiful lunch in Aspen. And he made me go to the hospital. You wanted to apres-ski. Yes. And I retired from skiing because i like broke my hand
Starting point is 00:52:05 the year before skiing's insane it's insane you know that i like talk shit on skiing i know yeah right but again if i grew up skiing i would be completely different no i was forced into it i fully didn't want to do it my dad so dangerous my dad dragged me weekend off it was every weekend like let's just fall down an icy slope i know i would do it over and over again it's crazy but you must be amazing you're pretty good do you snowboard at all no my husband you're so girly you're like oh i'm not snowboarding i also love horseback riding i'm a big equestrian oh my god but that's also really dangerous yeah like i fall off all the time horses are the one animal that i like feel like i want to bond with that I haven't.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I'm bonded with most animals. Horses, I heard it's like a crazy connection. It's crazy. Like I have to tell you though, every girl at my barn. Yeah. They've all like been through something. Like it's a trauma sport. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like you can tell everyone's like a little off. And I like fully me too. It's basically no one goes into horse riding having a good life. No. No, everyone's going through something. No one becomes a yoga teacher.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Except maybe Kendall. I think she's gone through some stuff. She seems okay. And Bella. She'll just go to a regular horse show. She'll just show up. And compete. And now she's doing the whole Western thing.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And it's so cool. Well, it's so funny how like things go on trend. It's like tennis. Tennis was not cool when I was growing up. I was a nerd. And now it's a whole thing. And all the good wags. And then like Zendaya.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And I was just like, I was making made fun of her. But I want to start like, and girlies, if you're listening, I want to start like a hot girl tennis, like not YouTube or like Instagram series because I've been playing tennis and people have been asking me questions and I was like I will literally teach all you hot girls who look so good in your outfit and holding the racket, can I teach you how to play too? Because like it's very technique-oriented and once you get the technique technique you can like play with your friends so i wanted you to do like a tutorial i'm gonna do something or meet up my husband's like you're literally too busy and
Starting point is 00:54:13 i'm like no this is important yeah this does seem a little crazy no i just because all i want to do is make stupid videos but i think i'm gonna do it because people submitted a bunch of questions and i'm just gonna like start answering them and see what happens do you know what is funny to me about your tennis content though i think i know what you're gonna say okay i just like everything you do is so funny and then the tennis content comes and you're so serious and it almost like takes me aback and i'm like oh my god it's a whole different person you're it's a different person people talk about it's like an alter ego you're really intense and like you know it really I'm like a whole different character on the court like I'm emotional I'm like yeah we're off the court I like I haven't cried in like eight months and like I
Starting point is 00:54:55 don't get into like I haven't fought with a friend since reality tv put me on the tennis court it's going down I don't know who she is it's crazy it radiates through the screen it's crazy i would not want to be out there with you well it's funny because at a young age someone was like she has a killer instinct and i'm like that doesn't sound good but they were like we're looking for someone with a killer instinct i'm like okay i'm not shark but i do think i've taken um i actually don't love competing even though like i am very competitive it's not i don't love the vibe of it the energies can be a little intense so that's why i really think like i took all the stuff i love from tennis and that was good at it and put it into comedy
Starting point is 00:55:35 from the like diligence and just knowing like you every day you put a little bit more you're trying to improve and being easier on myself with it it's hard work i mean you're up late you're showing up every day it's wild you're doing another podcast after this the admin of it all the admin of it all it is like but it is like an exercise where my crowd work's gotten good from podcasting so much like we're riffing right now is wild i'm obsessed it's just it just happened it just happened one day i literally persephone isis oh my god that was where did she come from it was like a plant i remember the girl said her name was isis and for a second i looked up at the comedy gods and i said thank you and then i realized oh fuck i have to like do something with this moment and then i just like went in and
Starting point is 00:56:19 she was like such a good sport afterwards i like hung out with her and took photos because she like i was like i literally said out loud in the special i was like this is going on netflix thank you yeah you did so did you feel like the mom was being defensive the the mom definitely well at one point my shows become a girl's bathroom at one point a girl starts crying next to her because she's just drunk and like having a really good time but like being cute and she's holding her hand and she was like it's not your fault it's not your fault i was like it's not your fault it's the mom's fault like it's the mom's fault their name's isis and they're laughing and i think the mom was realizing the mom like loved it but i also was poking fun at
Starting point is 00:56:57 her life choices i know i was watching her face the whole i would be like i feel like there's a like there's definitely like a reason like i there's more people who have reached out like, oh, that's my name in this culture. Oh, okay. Okay. But like, so I don't think that was why I was like, was she inspired by them? Or was this on them? It was crazy. But I do like to everyone to feel like they're in on the joke with me.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Like it's important that you're not being mean. No, it didn't come off mean at all. But it's interesting. I mean, I'll be mean to the men, but the men weirdly like love when i mean to them like they want me to be mean to them they're sitting there for a reason yeah it's some weird dominatrix if they show up at a hannah boner show they know where they're they wear their hat backwards in the front and i'm like you motherfucker like you wanted to piss me off today you wanted to ruin my day and i feel like they always think that i'm like not gonna come make them look bad and then i always do and then they're like impressed by it they're like
Starting point is 00:57:49 she's not gonna say oh that was mean it's for the girls for the girls like it's for the girls okay do you mind if we do a quick rapid fire i would love a rapid from the girls okay um how did you know des was the one when um i felt very like there was no games. Period. No games. I love that. I said this was rapid fire and I asked like a really deep question. I was like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:58:12 You're like, that's not rapid fire. That was so funny. How do you know when you found your soulmate? What is your number one flex in life right now? Oh my God. It has to be my Netflix specials in the top five for this week. Yes, it is. It hit number two. It was behind A Man With A Thousand Kids.
Starting point is 00:58:28 So the patriarchy is still winning, but I'm over it. The one you told me about. Do not watch it. Yeah, turn it off. How dare you? Good. And everyone watch that. And then Vikings Valhalla, which is obviously amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:38 But like these freaking Vikings are beating me. And everyone watch Hannah's from front to end. Front to end. Front to end. And even just put it on in the background. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll like keep playing it. Yeah, keep playing it.
Starting point is 00:58:48 That's why I'm ranked so high. My grandma keeps playing it. I don't actually know what this question means, but someone said, what is your morning giggly routine? My morning giggly routine. Oh, I guess she just means my morning routine. I like sleep as late as I can.
Starting point is 00:59:01 And then I go on my phone. Hip hop yoga. I'm like adding things for you bodega I try to drink water eventually someone wanted to actually you may not want to reveal this but someone wanted to know your bodega of choice oh it's okay if you don't want to say I'm like very I love any bodega I'm very into like your walk around the city and then you're like I'm hungry or I'm thirsty and then you there's always a bodega you go very into like your walk around the city and then you're like i'm hungry or i'm thirsty and then you there's always a bodega you go in you get a fun little drink
Starting point is 00:59:29 and like a bar or a what's the bagel order the bagel order is everything bagel with scallion cream cheese or just a bacon egg and cheese if it's the morning or up until about 4 p.m by the way it's almost my bedtime right now i'm dead serious we we live such different lives we are so different but so similar in so many ways so funny what is it like being married to another comedian it's can be annoying because he's older and he's experienced a lot of stuff so like he's not as impressed by anything that i do and he'll have like advice and i'll be like, let me make my own mistakes. But it's amazing because he understands me more than anyone.
Starting point is 01:00:09 And he also understands when something happens, how difficult it was to get there. I'm going to cry. The circle. Situationships cleanse. Oh, that doesn't make sense. Situationships, how to cleanse and find your person. Oh, okay. So situationships, I cleanse and find your person oh okay so situationships i loved a situationship um a lot of the time you're in situationships because you actually are not
Starting point is 01:00:33 being open and intimate and you're kind of attracting people who aren't because you're not that's what i realized about myself so it's like the second you're ready you're actually ready you'll attract the right kind of guy. Do you need a relationship podcast or something? I love talking about dating. I've noticed you're really good because I'm horrible at giving advice on dating. I love dating. But I do say like just because I'm married,
Starting point is 01:00:57 people think I like understand everything. When it's like marriage also is like a plant. Like you have to feed it. You're growing. You're learning. You're changing. But I think I've learned. I've put myself out there a lot with dating've I've learned I've done I've put myself out there a lot with dating where I feel like I've had a lot of experiences and I've always
Starting point is 01:01:08 had a really good like mom to be like this is one thing my mom did tell me which was like firm and kind of annoying but she was like if you're not gonna marry him move on like I've been in relationships after like a year and she's like, do you want to marry him? And I'm like, no. And I'd be like 27 and she's like, break up with him tomorrow. And I'm like, that's so blunt, mom. And she's like, we don't have time. She's not wrong. And she's so wrong.
Starting point is 01:01:35 She's so right. So my mom's always right, which is so super annoying. And I also think men have hurt my mental health where I've got to the point where I was like, unless he's an asset to your life, I really don't have time for their shit. Like, I don't have time for it. What age did you meet Des? I was 29, I believe. I was 29, single, living with my parents during COVID.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And my mom had four cats. And she at one point looked at me and was like, is are you OK? Like, are you going on? And I was like, no one got away. I didn't like I don't want to be with any of my exes. So like I have not done anything wrong. I just haven't met my person yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:15 And once I met him, we were engaged in six months. See, I'm obsessed with hearing this because I think a lot of women listening, my demographics like entirely female and they're all 25 to 35. Oh, my's so it's I also was inspired by your parent my parents love story a lot of people get inspired by like what they think love is my parents were engaged in six months too so I kind of if I was with a guy for a year and a half I was like he's not the one I would have known by now so like with Des it was so like it's it's so much more similar to friendship than you think like attractions eat like it's obviously like he's hot he's hot but like you know when you meet a girl at the bar and you're like I feel comfortable with her I want to tell her everything I have good energy
Starting point is 01:02:56 with her she's my bestie like you know when you're like you're my best friend that's how it feels when you meet your man you're just like you're man. Like I was married to him when we met. Like we were married. Like after the second date, I was like, he's my husband. I'm obsessed. This is, I really. And not in like a, cause we've all been there too. Where we're like, he's my husband.
Starting point is 01:03:14 This was like boring. I was like, yeah, that's my husband. Yeah. I feel the same way about mine. I've been with Greg for 10 years. I just like, can't even really give advice. Cause I'm like, I just, I just, you just know. You just know in the most boring way.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Yeah. But it's like boring in like the safest, most beautiful, calm way. Yeah. No doubt. But not like the sick to your stomach. Am I saying the right thing? Am I doing the right thing? Oh, one other piece of advice I love is if it's meant to be, you can't fuck it up.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I was obsessed with like, if I say the funny thing, if I dress the right way, heels or no heels, smiley face or no smiley face. If it's meant to be, it will work out. He doesn't remember the things you say. He remembers like your essence, your energy, how you made him feel, how he made you feel. Like that's the vibes. Don't obsess over the little things. Such good advice.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Period. Newsletter stuff. What does Hailey Bieber smell like? She really is like an angel and she has this confidence and aura about her that's just like she's a star and then she's like so smiley and light and like she just seems like a normal girl who happened upon being beautiful and married to justin bieber is her skin insane it really it's oh my god well ssr too when she was pregnant it was like beyond glowing i was like blinded um but she also is an easy laugher which
Starting point is 01:04:31 i really liked about her we love that we love an easy laugher your belly moment was just no and then everyone thought i was like announcing my pregnancy which you know i loved because i was like no one's asking about my pregnancy but i literally looked at her and i was like your belly is me bloated and then i just bumped with her and she laughed and I was like thank god that would have been awkward it was like really a brave moment and I loved it I took some risks it was I mean that's why you're in this position oh last one what does the skincare routine look like are you doing nothing like ancestral vibes so I have not to brag please brag um as someone who's had acne for 10 years i'm like go ahead let me brag i have combination skin so i'm dry and oily
Starting point is 01:05:11 so i'm like i will get out of the shower and my face will feel so dehydrated and dry so i'm always moisturizing i'll use every fucking moisturizer i love moisturizer i love the caudillet serum okay um vino perfect i just like how it smells okay um and i'm throwing serums on i like an eye under eye patch thingy i'll throw those on do i know if anything's really working besides the moisturizer no but you don't have makeup on right now i have some powder on it's worth whatever you're doing it's great you know what i have a little tan and it tans it's changed my life it fixes everything it's changed getting tan because it burns everything off it really does and you like don't need to wear makeup when you're tan i agree so um that's not to brag have you used talo on your face yet i used to for like tv stuff um it just stresses me out and then i always like fuck it up in some way
Starting point is 01:06:07 but i feel like if you need to do it but i'm more like you can always change yourself to think you look better but like when there's like a dead winter where i'm so ugly but i'm so used to looking at myself pale that i almost like myself and there's like it's just i kind of like because then the summer you're so fucking hot people lose their mind And there's like. It's just. I kind of like. Because then. The summer. You're so fucking hot. People lose their mind. Like there's something nice about that. It's almost too much.
Starting point is 01:06:30 It's almost too much for people to handle. Yeah. It's like I feel bad. It's almost like nails. Like you know. If you never do your nails. Your nails just start looking normal and good. When they're short.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Yeah. And you forget what your long nails even looked like. Like so much of your beauty is really. Like. The eye of the beholder. And perspective. And with that. A poet. With that. Hannah, thank you so much for coming on the show. Seriously, I'm such a big fan. Oh my God. Thank you for having me. Thank you for responding to me. I think I DM'd you and I love everything you're doing. I DM'd you for sure. Okay. But I felt like I DM'd you. We both DM'd. We've been going back and forth.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I know how busy you are. I really appreciate it. Sorry we ruined your nails today. I did ruin one nail because I opened one of Bloom's new products. It's a little dangerous, but in the best way. Oh, guys. She's a little dangerous. Be careful.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Can I see them? My nails? Yeah. I just feel like your nails are like a big part of who you are kind of at the moment the ups and downs of my nails yes like it's chaos like it's we never know they'll be outgrown they'll be crazy colors i'll have like insane accidents at the place like i'll kill the whole family like that's there's a lot going on i feel responsible for what happened today no it's okay i mean i'm not gonna be over it for a while and you probably shouldn't dm me for a while okay but i'll delete you out of my we'll wait for the
Starting point is 01:07:49 thank you so much for coming on thank you where can everyone watch the special where can they watch the special on netflix we write at dawn dm me tell me your favorite bits and then listen to giggly squad if you love this pod too and read her book oh yeah and you can order our book which is actually called how to giggle life advice um for take or look at me i don't even know what the book was i literally don't know no it's um it's a guide to taking life less seriously which is health and wellness is health and wellness don't take life too seriously thank you babe thank you thanks for joining us on the pursuit of wellness podcast to support this show please rate and review and share with your loved ones if you want to be reminded of new episodes click the subscribe button on your preferred podcast or
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