Pursuit of Wellness - Healthy Relationship Advice

Episode Date: February 15, 2024

Ep. #73 Today is an intimate discussion with the lovely Fiona Attix in our Austin studio. We discuss the intersection of fitness, friendships, love languages, and boundaries. We jump straight into mai...ntaining and nurturing both new and existing relationships and then finish the episode by answering your personal questions surrounding topics like Ozempic, weight loss, and love for Ausitn’s vibrant lifestyle.  Leave Me a Message - click here! For Mari’s Instagram click here! For Pursuit of Wellness Podcast’s Instagram click here! For Mari’s Newsletter click here! For Fiona’s instagram click here! Show Links: Strength App Branch Basics - use code POW Sponsored By: Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/POW Use code POW at Naturalcycles.com to get 15% off an annual subscription + a free thermometer Topics Discussed: 01:13 - Discussing Relationships 03:08 - New workout routines in Austin 15:15 - Gen Z Terminology 18:10 - Fi’s Relationship Tip #1 22:18 - Mari’s Relationship Tip #1  29:42 - Fi Relationship Tip #2 32:02 - Mari Relationship Tip #2 38:24 - Who is Ozempic good for? 43:42 - Advice on yo-yoing weight  48:35 - Most exciting parts about Austin 51:18 - Laundry Detergent and Body Lotions

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Pursuit of Wellness podcast, and I'm your host, Mari Llewellyn. What is up, guys? Welcome back to the Pursuit of Wellness podcast. I am joined with your favorite guest, Fiona Ass in the building. Fiona Ass. That's what they call me me Fiona Addicts is here love being back so much fun we've been doing these monthly now I know I feel like you've been on the mic so many times I love it
Starting point is 00:00:33 it's really fun and this is the first time you've been on the pod in Austin it is I'm a little intimidated we're in like a very legit setup I feel like our studio at home was so like soft it was like cozy.
Starting point is 00:00:45 It was like us. This is a little intimidating, but I'm ready. It's looking hardcore, but also it's just us in the room. I mean, Jake is listening in the other room. Hi, Jake. Hey, Jake. We are alone in the room. So I thought it would be really nice today to discuss something that you guys have been
Starting point is 00:01:02 asking for. But one discussion that Fi and I have a lot personally, like we end up talking about this topic a lot in the car, when we're walking, we talk about relationships. We talk about... Romantic and friendships. We talk about female friendships. We talk about ending friendships, romantic
Starting point is 00:01:25 relationships, boundaries, love languages. I feel like because we have such a close friendship and we just like know each other so well, we do end up talking about that and how we've managed to do that and sort of reflect with each other. And obviously we like gossip about our relationships with our partners, obviously. So I want to get into that. But before we do, I'd love to just hear an Austin update from Fi. I think all the girls are like, what's going on? Like, how's Texas? I know. I feel like shockingly, I had a lot of people ask me once I moved, either didn't realize I was moving with you, or a lot of people thought I was moving in with you. Everyone thinks you're living with me. Like many people said, oh my gosh, you're moving in with Mari.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Which I was like, that is so interesting. Why do people think that? That is so weird. I don't know. Like we're all just moving to Austin to live in a big house together. I mean, it's giving like a TikTok content house, but definitely not our vibe. No, I have my own place for Mari, you guys. Guys, we have our own lives.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Like I'm fully married. Fia's in a long-term relationship. I mean, if it was up to me and my boyfriend, we would live in Mari's house. No I'm fully married. Fia's in a long term relationship. I mean, if it was up to me and my boyfriend, we would live in Mari's house. No, you wouldn't. Kenny asked that many a times. He's like, what about on their land? Like he saw these like Walmart mini houses you can buy now. You can buy like a miniature house for like $20,000. He's like, we'll just plop it on their lot. Like they won't even know we're there. I'm like, you can take that up with Greg and Mari. But this doesn't really go with our like
Starting point is 00:02:45 healthy boundary conversation. Sorry. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm on a tangent. So. No, I didn't mean it in a bad way. I just meant like, it's funny that we're talking about that and you're talking about like living on my property,
Starting point is 00:02:56 which I would also love just for context. Like I would love if he lived with me, but we're just trying to live normal lives, you know? Yeah. We have to have some separate time from each other, though it's not much, I promise you. So my routine, I have honestly been trying to get in the swing of things here. I have not joined a gym yet. I know Mari joined a gym here that she loves. So I've been using ClassPass to try out just like all the different kinds of gyms. And there's like a lot of different forms of exercise here. And also a lot of different
Starting point is 00:03:24 gyms. Yeah. And there's just, there's a gym for everything different forms of exercise here and also a lot of different gyms. People are very healthy here. Yeah. And there's just, there's a gym for everything and like by everything, I'll get into that. So I recently tried this new kind of like boutique, I would definitely say it's like a women's focused gym. Like there's a couple men in the classes, but it's not like a Barry's or an Orange Theory. Like it's definitely, there's like bar and cycle. And then they also have this class called Rebounder, you guys. Wait, what's the name?
Starting point is 00:03:45 Do you mind saying the name of the gym? It's called Motive. Motive Fitness. It's on like South Lamar. Super close to my house. And a gal I met actually when we were here for F1, I was out and met this girl. And she's an instructor there.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And so she told me about it, invited me to a cycle class. And then from there, she's like, you should try this rebound class. rebound just for context fee met this girl at the bar at the proper hotel like drinking and i was just so funny to me how fee meets people like she's so friendly and so social that she just like comes back with friends like she'll go to like the supermarket and be like oh i've made 10 new friends. Yes, that was pretty spontaneous of me. I will credit that to Kenny.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Kenny can talk to a brick wall. And so he actually, I think, started talking to the guy that was with the group. But whatever, long story short, I met this girl. She's a trainer. And she invited me to a rebounder class, which is a trampoline workout. It's not like, okay, I've seen on TikTok,
Starting point is 00:04:46 those classes where you're like strapped into like straps and people are like bouncing on the floor. It's not that. I would die to see you do that. I would pee my pants if I took that class. We should try one actually and vlog it. I don't know. Pee myself. But this rebounder class is intense.
Starting point is 00:04:59 You are jumping on a trampoline like to a beat while like doing movements with your arms. It's crazy and it is such a good workout like you not have a video of yourself doing it yet no i don't please okay the next class i will take one i've been embarrassed like it's it's hard and these girls around me after class i'm like you guys are fit because i can't do that and i work out is the vibe like we are warriors like serious, like let's go? No.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Or is it like hee hee ha ha, this is so funny. No one's giggling. Like no one's giggling like, oh, this is silly. Like everyone's like, like serious, but not like, like everyone's having fun. Good. Like they're like doing choreography on this trampoline. And all these girls must be like freaking Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. Because like they got it and I do not got it.
Starting point is 00:05:46 There was an older woman behind me. She was killing it. And I was like, and they keep telling me I need to get like my trampoline legs. Like they're like, it'll come, like it'll come. And I'm like, okay. It kind of sounds like horseback riding. Horseback riding is completely new muscles for me. And I'm not as strong as some of the like other gals.
Starting point is 00:06:02 For like, just for context, you're supposed to like down jump, they say say like you're almost supposed to use the resistance from the thing to jump into it versus like you get on a trampoline as a kid you're like bouncing yeah you're not supposed to bounce you're supposed to like i could see that down bounce are you in a squat position the whole time so it's harder for tall girls which i I found out today. Because like, yes, you just like, if you're taller, you need to be squatting more. So imagine like squatting while trying to jump and do moves for an hour. No, no, no. It's really hard. Like my legs were quaking.
Starting point is 00:06:35 But the first time I went, you guys, the whole time I was like, I need Mario to come try this class. Because I think he would pee your pants. Of laughter? Yes. Or just like from jumping too hard? From laughter. Like I think just us
Starting point is 00:06:46 doing it together. I think we could not look at each other because we would be dying. I feel like we need to go and film it and like tell the power girls how it went down.
Starting point is 00:06:54 It was really fun. And it's a great like I put my Fitbit on like I'm burning some cows like it's a good form of exercise. And they do a little strength movements at the end
Starting point is 00:07:01 with like weights and stuff and doing sit-ups on it. It's crazy. But so yeah. Didn't you tell me I'm like i'm into it didn't you tell me there's lymphatic drainage benefits that's what they say they say from jumping i know people use a trampoline as like a recovery method oh like i've seen like a runner a guy i know that runs a lot he jumps on the trampoline to like help his calves and like i think to flush stuff so I mean I love a lymphatic drainage so if I'm getting that too that'd be awesome but well I'm happy that you are trying new things and trying to find your groove I feel like now is the perfect moment to do that you're in a new city you're trying to get movement in it might as
Starting point is 00:07:40 well go try things meet people have fun with me. Yeah, what have you been doing? Thanks for asking. I just diet these conversations. I have really been in my fitness era since moving to Austin. I think in LA, I got a bit bored and uninspired with my workouts. I was so regimented in LA, like woke up at the same time every day, 5.30, rolled out of bed, went to Gold's, worked out, came home, went to the office, sat at a desk 9 to 5, and I just got kind of like uninspired and stuck. And here, I feel like I've
Starting point is 00:08:19 been really excited about especially weightlifting again. I think there's a lot of people here who are super jacked, a lot of functional movements, which I really like. The gym I've been going to, there's a lot of athletes, people are doing bear crawls and hand cleans and just really, really inspiring stuff. And the music's loud. And I really enjoy it. So I've been going there. I've been working out with Brent. We love Brent. I kind of want to have him on the show soon. He's an Austin personal trainer. I've obviously been following the strength app. The strength app is like a great thing for me to grab for if I'm like, what do I do today? So I use that. I've also been walking 10x more than I was in LA. Like my steps here are over 10k every day sometimes like 16 000 plus because there's so much more walkable spots i feel like you feel the same way oh yeah around ladybird lake around my neighborhood i had therapy yesterday for an hour i just went and parked at ladybird lake and walked for an hour and i'm like really really enjoying the walking and it's safe and there's people everywhere it's like very inspiring to see all the people walking you could could go to Lady Bird Lake at any hour and someone's jogging, walking, they have their babies, they have their dogs. So really, really loving
Starting point is 00:09:32 that. And I feel good, actually. I feel quite seeing my abs again. I feel like I'm eating really well. Like I'm enjoying going out here and there, trying out Austin foods, but I'm, you know, making meat as per usual, my sweet potato, my salad. So yeah, I'm proud of us. I think getting to a new place, like just automatically kind of gives you a little more inspiration. I'm the same way.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Like I'm excited to do like daily tasks that like in LA, I would have been like, just moving anywhere. And I'm just saying moving to Austin, but like you get to decorate a new space and try new places. And yeah, it's like really exciting. Also that Brent class we did. I actually tried it with Mari last week, you guys.
Starting point is 00:10:11 The man made us do 200 banded hip thrusts. Yeah. 200. We counted. 200 hip thrusts. I would like to say here officially, I am in my dump truck era. I decided I'm trying to eat a little bit more while I'm trying to get pregnant, just to be honest.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like I'm not trying to restrict too much. I'm having carbs. I'm enjoying myself. And I'm like, I might as well put this food towards a dumpy, like a fat dumpy, which means booty. If you don't know, it means booty. I would like to grow my butt. So I'm trying to train legs more. I think for me, my quads grow so much more than my glutes that I've always sort of neglected my glutes because I'm like, oh, they don't grow. I don't even really
Starting point is 00:11:01 want to like focus on that, but I'm really ready to start ramping up my leg days and doing more heavy lifts, hip thrusts, RDLs, squats, compound movements, and maybe doing it like two to three times a week. A lot of the girlies are doing that like three times a week now. I know. And then upper body a little less. I know. But I love upper body. I know. I do too. I love a shoulder day. I actually prefer upper body days over leg days. Like these are hard for me. They're hard. Same. It's like your whole body. So I just had a meeting with our accountant yesterday and she was pointing out to me how many app subscriptions that I truly have. And she was asking me which ones I'm really using. And after going through it, I was shocked at how many
Starting point is 00:11:51 subscriptions I have that I'm actually not using. And that's money flying out of my account every month without me even really being aware of it. And that's where Rocket Money comes in. I really think this is the best invention of all time. If you have personal finance goals for 2024, this would be a fantastic app for you. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that finds and cancels unwanted subscriptions and monitors your spending and helps lower bills. I can see all of my subscriptions in one place. And if I see something I don't want, I just cancel it with a tap. I never have to get on the phone with customer service. Such a good tip, guys. Customer service phone calls are no fun, and none of us have time for that. They'll even try to get you a refund for the last couple months
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Starting point is 00:14:52 subscription plus a free thermometer or go to www.naturalcycles.app slash POW. This episode is sponsored by Natural Cycles. Natural Cycles is for 18 plus and does not protect against STIs. Yeah. So I'm in my dump truck era. Also, I've been like playing around with these Gen Z words and I'm just having like a really good time. So for example, like dump truck is one of them. The other one is when you, okay, so I don't know if you guys have seen people commenting four plus four, like the number four plus four on people's photos. It means eight. Like you ate. So for example, I'll use it in context. Fi showed up in this beautiful outfit today. And I said, oh, you really ate. Like you ate that up.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah. But then like you would comment on my photo if I were this like four plus four. Four plus four indicating eight. Or you could be like professional eater. I've heard that one too. I don't know if I like that one. Me and Sammy have been saying buffet style. Like all you
Starting point is 00:16:05 can eat oh because that's even better interesting do you want to hear another one i learned really quick um hot men are now referred to as baby girl baby girl yeah oh yes that's like the jacob alorti yeah what is that people call him baby girl? He, I think there's a video of him saying it. In Euphoria, right? No. I think he like said it in context somewhere. He said baby girl to someone and people are like freaking out. Guys, let us know.
Starting point is 00:16:35 It's on tape of him saying baby girl. And it's… But now every guy that's hot is baby girl. So just so everyone knows. I could never say that. And then obviously we have the someone cooked here. Oh yeah. Which you guys, I don't know if you know,
Starting point is 00:16:49 but for example, I always give this example. If you hand your new boyfriend, like you just met, you're on a date, maybe you're not even boyfriend, girlfriend yet. You say, hey, could you like take a photo of me? And he gets on one knee and is getting the angles and doing all the right things. You're like, oh, someone cooked me. And he gets on one knee and is getting the angles and doing all the right things. You're like, oh, someone cooked here.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Turning down the brightness. Yeah, someone cooked here. Someone definitely cooked here. Because he was trained. He was trained. He's done it somewhere else before. Yeah, so someone cooked here. Anyway, we're hip.
Starting point is 00:17:21 We're hip, we're cool. Just letting you guys know this is a Gen Z podcast. It absolutely is. And we couldn't be more millennial if we tried. We're probably like chugging around right now, for all we know. Let's hop into our topic of discussion for today, which is healthy relationships. We're talking friendship, romantic, all of the above. And just giving some like personal tips, not because we are pros
Starting point is 00:17:46 necessarily, but I do feel like we've learned a lot along the way. And just some things we've been implementing here in Austin, making new friendships, maintaining old friendships that we want to, getting deeper with our romantic partners. So we're going to go back and forth with our personal tips, and then we're going to listen to some voice messages afterwards. So we're going to go back and forth with our personal tips and then we're going to listen to some voice messages afterwards. So why don't you start? Okay, amazing. So my first one's going to be a romantic tip. I have a couple romantic, a couple friendship ones. So my first romantic relationship tip is to maintain your own lives. Mari and I were actually talking about this on our car ride the other day from Houston. I have struggled in the past to maintain my own life when I'm in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I feel like I become the person they want me to be, and I'm just always available. And it never worked out in the past. So to give a little context behind that, I definitely am kind of a people pleaser. I don't like to be difficult. I don't want someone else to feel like they need to like change their plans by any means, which all of this I am working on. But I've just noticed like when I allow myself to continue maintaining like my own life apart from my partner and also let him do the same, it's really helped our relationship just grow and really improve.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I think when I was a little like clingy and wanted to be involved in every part of his life, like even now in Austin, you know, he's trying out other gyms and stuff too. And we've done a couple of classes together, but like in the past, I feel like I would have been like, I have to do like everything you're doing. Like, well, what gym?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Like we've been talking about gyms at night. I'm like, well, are you going to join that gym? Because I would have been like I have to do like everything you're doing like well what gym like we've been talking about gyms at night I'm like well are you gonna join that gym because like I don't know if I want to join that and he's like you don't have to join the same gym as me which in my head I'm like what do you mean but like he's right like I don't like we could do our own thing like he's really been into berries and stuff so I'm like you go ahead and do that and like maybe I'll do my motive gym, and it just gives you time apart that I think like then when you come back together, you have so much more to talk about. And I don't know, I think like having your own personal space and time away from your partner,
Starting point is 00:19:54 like just helps it grow. And also us traveling. Like we've been traveling quite a bit for work and the podcast, which in the past, I feel like would make me kind of freak out. Like I kind of have a bit of like a… What's that? Abandonment. Yeah, like abandonment stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:10 And so if I'm like away too long from… I like think something bad's happening. Or they're like not going to like me when I'm back. But if anything, it's the opposite. And like I think taking these trips and like doing my independent girl thing. Bus lady thing. I also think he like finds that more attractive, which not that I'm doing everything for him to think it's attractive, but I just think
Starting point is 00:20:30 it's like, it's a good tip. So like focus on yourself, obviously be in a relationship, be happy, do stuff together, but also find time to like have your own hobbies and focus on yourself. And you guys don't need to do everything together. Question. Yeah. When do you find time to like come together? And how do you make sure it's like high quality, quality time, if that makes sense? So I'll just go into my second tip. That was literally my second tip was like actively then planning times
Starting point is 00:20:56 to do things together, whether that's like making dinner. Even yesterday, like I knew we had to get groceries. And like three days ago, I was like, Wednesday night, let's go get groceries and then come home and make X, Y, and Z. And then it just ensures like all day yesterday, we've had such a busy week.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I was not texting him during the day. I had no idea. I said, can you please pick me up from work and we can go get groceries and like then we can have our evening together. I feel like not texting all day needs to be normalized. Yes, yes. Because I used to,
Starting point is 00:21:27 Greg and I used to have like a flow all day long and it's a little bit weird for us because we work together. But I really feel like texting all day is like shouldn't happen because then you have nothing to update each other on at night. I think it's very like young.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Like when you like had a crush in high school or college even or boyfriend like we texted all day. The moment you wake up hey babe to the moment they go to sleep goodnight like now it's like and I still think I get hints of that sometimes and like I'll call Kenny when I'm on my way home and he's like why are you
Starting point is 00:22:00 calling me? I'm gonna see you in seven minutes and I'm like I'll literally call him like into the garage and he's like you're crazy. Stop. I'm going to see you in seven minutes. And I'm like, I'll literally call him like into the garage. And he's like, you're crazy. I'm the same way though. He's like, but you're going to see me like just talk to me. So I actually think he's taught me that to like, like save it. I love that. Then you have something to talk about. So those are my two tips. So you can do yours. Cute. My number one is being thoughtful. And I know that sounds kind of obvious. But as someone who, I'm not saying I'm not a thoughtful person. I am a thoughtful person. Like I am in my thoughts thinking about other people a lot. But it doesn't come particularly natural for me in romantic relationships,
Starting point is 00:22:40 or even friendships, I kind of have to like, be very intentional about being thoughtful. So for example, when Celeste was sick, back in LA, and she had her baby by herself, and she was unwell, I sent an heroin package with soup and everything. That was an intentional thought process for me. It doesn't come as natural for me with Greg. And I don't know if it's because of the way I was raised. Like I wasn't raised with a particularly like maternal mother figure or people doing very nice things in the house. Like romantic things for each other in front of you, not like public displays of love. Never saw that. So I'm not very good at that, but I really want to be someone that does that.
Starting point is 00:23:26 You know, when we talk about like visualizing our dream life or manifesting the best version of ourselves, I really like to visualize myself being someone who's very thoughtful for other people. And I do have that. Like I think about other people a lot and other people mean a lot to me. But the little things like the flowers and the soup and the getting a card, I feel like you and me are quite good at that for each other for some reason. But I struggle with Greg usually. So I think it goes a long way and it means a lot. And I think he can really strengthen a relationship. So an example in LA that I did was I started just cleaning up his side of the bed every day. Like getting his nose strips laid out and making his pillows nice and leaving his things all nice for him. And I could tell he really loved it. His love language is acts of service. Mine is not.
Starting point is 00:24:22 So he could do a nice thing for me. And if he doesn't like look me in the eye and tell me I'm like amazing, I don't care. Like I'm a words of affirmation type person. So just learning to read other people's love languages. But I think I especially have struggled with it with men because I never saw my mom and dad do that for each other. Like it comes more naturally to me for women.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. I feel like that was a long-winded way of trying to say what I'm trying to say. No, I get that. But I've noticed that being more intentionally thoughtful, like offering to make dinner, picking up from the airport, like little things goes a long way. Yeah. No, and female friendships or any kind of friendship and romantic for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I agree. It's hard. You get so wrapped up in the day. Also like you and Greg do work together fairly closely all through the day. So it's hard to like kind of get out of that mindset and then shift into like, what's something nice I could do for them.
Starting point is 00:25:19 That's a struggle for us for sure. It's almost like a part of being present. Yeah. You know what I mean? We're all wrapped up in the day and stuff and we're not thinking about like what's in the present but and even just like i guess his are more acts of service but i was gonna say even like not even just getting someone flowers or something just like i love like a nice text like literally just like hope you have a great day yeah love you see you after this i'm like oh yeah just to know someone's thinking of you i I think I love that.
Starting point is 00:25:46 That for me is like bread and butter. You texted me after our Houston trip and we did three really cool interviews and just had this awesome time and you were like, we killed it. We can do anything. And I was like, oh, yeah. It feels nice to hear. Yeah. And I think a lot of the time we assume that the other person knows that
Starting point is 00:26:06 we feel that way and we don't say it out loud enough yeah I know I feel that way about myself yeah no I do too and even like that exact example like I we had gotten back from this trip it was there were some highs and lows there were some things that went down and I know it was like it was a very kind of compact a little bit of stressful two days for Mari and I and I got home and was like taking my makeup off in the mirror and I was like I'm gonna text Mari and be like great job because like I know that was a lot for both of us but like we did it and we're crushing it and she was like so appreciative of it so it was really cute yeah and we have some really cool interviews coming for you guys we do um it was a crazy trip like I don't even know if I want to go into it on here,
Starting point is 00:26:45 but I got to work out with my fitness icon from when I first started. I interviewed Christian Guzman and Heidi Summers and Dr. Gabrielle Lyon. And the audio didn't work on one of the recordings, and we wanted to literally die. But other than that, it was great. I got a boot put on my car. Oh, my God, I forgot about that. Anyway, that's a story put on my car oh my god I forgot about that anyway that's a story for another day guys um shall I do my second tip yeah go for it teaching people
Starting point is 00:27:11 your boundaries and you just do this by living the way you want to live unapologetically I mean think that there's a way of going about it that's polite and friendly, but there are certain things that all my friends and Greg know about me. Things I will not do, things I will not be partaking in. And it's not because I don't love my friends or don't want to be around them. It's just because I have certain things that are too important to me. So for example, I will not go to a dinner reservation past 7.30. I feel like everyone knows that. She will not. No. I've tried. I'm like this amazing. Nope. Sorry. I won't do it. Like you don't want to be around me. Yeah. No, I know that. At that time. If she hasn't eaten until 7.30, you don't want to be around her. And if she's up past nine, you don't want to be around her, period. I will probably say no to like going out drinking. Yeah, probably. But occasionally,
Starting point is 00:28:10 I like a little bevy. And teaching your friends what you do love doing. Like I love going on walks. I love being outside. I love getting coffee. I love getting healthy food. I love doing workouts. Love a little shopping here and there. So I feel like teaching people your boundaries just by kind of like what you said, like not bending who you are to the other person and just living life the way you want to. And then people end up learning how you like to do things. Agreed. Also on that note, kind of like I was going to say, it's okay to like tell people what you want. Like you can be very, like I've experienced in like my romantic relationship, like I realized like sometimes I'm like, he's not going to read my mind. And like, if I want something, I just need
Starting point is 00:28:55 to be like, look, like I love flowers. Like if you go to the grocery store, you should get me flowers. Like, and he does because I made it very obvious. Every time? If he goes to the grocery store, yeah, he usually gets me flowers. What the hell? I don't get flowers. But, Mari, it's because I told him to. I think I saw a TikTok once of a girl being like, you need to tell them. They won't think about it. Exactly what you were saying.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It's just because a guy's maybe not like, oh, I want to get flowers. When he goes to the grocery store, he's not like, oh, look at those flowers. I'd love to get those. But no, I've told him flowers. When he goes to the grocery store, he's not like, oh, look at those flowers. I'd love to get those. But no, I've told him and now he gets me flowers. That's like me asking
Starting point is 00:29:28 for physical affection. But like, yeah. Can I have a hug? Can you hold my hand? But like, he'll do it. Yeah. But like, you would ask for it, but it's fine.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Still satisfies the need. No, you're right. Ask for what you need, period. Your turn. Okay, so this one's actually going to be a female or just friendships one, not a romantic one. Actually, this could apply to both.
Starting point is 00:29:49 So take that as you will. Allowing relationships to end. And I say this like very carefully, but it doesn't, like that doesn't need to be a bad thing. It doesn't make you a bad person. It doesn't make the other person a bad person. I don't think either side. I mean, it depends obviously how it ends.
Starting point is 00:30:10 But if you guys just outgrow each other, or I know we've moved, and there are friendships I really do want to maintain back in LA or friendships that have moved out of LA years ago that I still try to maintain. But it's okay to outgrow people and change and forcing any kind of relationship that isn't like helping you or making you a better person or like the person that you're aiming to be is a waste of both of your time. And I think sometimes I've kind of
Starting point is 00:30:39 people pleased my way and just kind of kept doing it. And every time I'd leave, just feeling kind of like depleted or like, I don't want to say I wasted my time, like not that, but just, I don't know, like know yourself and what kind of person you want to be. And don't be afraid to end relationships that aren't, I hate to say it, like not benefiting you, but like better. Yeah, serving you and making you a better person.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I feel like you can tell quite naturally when you go hang out with someone if you leave with your cup full or your cup empty. I feel like it's quite obvious. You know, if you leave feeling drained and maybe it was an unbalanced conversation or you don't really feel good about yourself, like that probably isn't a great relationship for you.
Starting point is 00:31:27 But if you leave feeling energized or you laughed or you feel inspired, not every friendship has to be fit in one bucket or the other. You can have people for different reasons. But I feel like that's really important. And I've gone down the same path of continuing to hang out with people who don't fill my cup
Starting point is 00:31:44 and just sort of being like, why do I keep doing this? You feel like you like owe it to them for some reason, but it's like, why? Like you're both almost kind of, because I have to say, like if you're feeling that way, the other person on the other end probably is to a degree too. At least in my experience. Yes. Yeah. That kind of leads into my tip.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Amazing. Which is, it's okay to not be best friends with everyone. I think a lot of us girls put pressure on ourselves to be besties with everyone. And I think it's because we have this frame of reference of friendship from college or high school where we're literally like living on top of each other. And I wouldn't shower unless my friend was talking to me through the door. So the concept of an adult friendship, people have responsibilities, they have their own families, adult friendships look different to high school and college friendships, like you don't have to be best best friends with every single friend that you make. You can have
Starting point is 00:32:41 a friend that you do workouts with or a friend that you go get coffee with. It doesn't have to be this sort of like deep bond every time. And I think I struggle with that because I always have this deep desire to be really close with everyone that I meet. But I've kind of been trying to wrap my head around this concept of it's okay to not be best friends with everyone. Or have a large group of best friends. You mean it's okay to not be best friends with everyone. Or have a large group of best friends. You mean it's okay to not? Yes. Dude, yeah. Like I literally have like three to four friends. Yeah. And I think that's totally normal. And like I personally am the same way. And I think society and social media, even like you said, growing up can make you feel like that's wrong. Or like you'll get on, you know, get on Instagram and you see a girl on a girl's trip with nine girls,
Starting point is 00:33:28 and you're just like, wow, like, I literally can't even count nine people I've texted in the last month to hang out. So, but there's nothing wrong with that. And like, I always say like, quality over quantity. And yes, like, it's not like, as long as you have someone to turn to. I feel blessed to have three friends. Yeah. You know? And I have actively been trying to make more since moving to Austin. Like, I've definitely put myself out there. And I've been saying yes to social engagements.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Like, I want to meet people. But I'm okay with a small circle. Got a lot going on. You know? Like, I struggle with, like, my, like, struggle with like my, like I know you always like, you're so social and talkative. I am. But I also have a social battery
Starting point is 00:34:09 that like drains very easily. It may be very full like at the start. So I seem very, but like after like a long night of like socializing, I'm like, oh, yeah, like I need to be alone. Like, yeah, like it doesn't energize me as much like versus my partner. He like, he loves that.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Like, his battery gets even fuller if he's out meeting people. So, yeah. That's a good tip. Thanks. This is kind of similar to my previous one. But it's to focus on having friends that, like, build you up. Mm-hmm. Specifically.
Starting point is 00:34:44 So, you know, I was having a conversation with my boyfriend just about his friends, my friends, and just like what we look for in friends. And I kind of made it a point to him to bring up just how important it is for me at least, or that I have found in my friendships over the last couple years to find people that I want to aspire to be like. Like you, for example. When I met you, I was in a very different phase of my life. A phase like, you know, I think I needed to go through it, but it wasn't my best.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I wasn't confident or proud of myself by any means. I was living pretty averagely, I would say. I was going out a lot and drinking a lot and just not taking care of myself like physically or mentally. And I think it had to do with the people I surrounded myself with. And I know everyone hated to hear this growing up. I hated it when my parents would say it, but like you are who you hang out with. My parents would always say that growing up. I was kind of hanging out with like the mischievous kids. They were like, hmm. I'd be like, you don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:35:47 They knew exactly what they were talking about. And I did too. I just didn't want to admit it. But so hanging out with people that may not be going after goals or like really have aspirations similar to what you maybe want or looking like it's not going to help get you anywhere, if that makes sense. Not that your friends should just be helping you get somewhere,
Starting point is 00:36:07 but I just think it's really important to, like, take a look at who you surround yourself with and, like, where you are at in your life. And if you feel like you're stagnant or maybe you're not living, like, the healthiest lifestyle, like, kind of take an inventory of the kinds of people you hang out with and the activities you do with them and see if that aligns with like what your goal is.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Because if it hasn't been happening, then it probably isn't. So that was my favorite tip you've given. Thank you. I really agree with you on that. And I think it can look different for everyone. So for example, I keep bringing up Celeste, like I'm her biggest fan. She's going to listen to this and be like, Mario, chill. But the fact that she has a baby and she's in a beautiful relationship and manages to live a life of her own is so inspiring to me.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I want to be a mom. So being around her makes me want to be better and it inspires me. I've been hanging out with Sammy Spalter here who also owns a business and slays and is busy and has responsibility. Being around her, I feel like I relate to her and I admire her. I've definitely gone down the path in the past of just hanging out with people who need me how do I put it who I benefit more than they benefit me and I'm not not not that I need favors from people or I'm trying to just benefit off people but I have had unbalanced relationships where I feel like I want to help fix them in a way where they're in a dark time and I'm like, let me help you. But I do really feel like matching your friendship with someone who's as driven as you and excited about life as you is really important. So I love that point you made. Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Shall we listen to some voice messages? Yes, let's do it. I'm so curious what we're, every time I pull up the voice messages, I get a's do it. I'm so curious what we're, every time I pull up the voice messages, I get a little bit nervous because I'm like, what are the girls saying? They're so fun though. I love it. So fun. Every time that we see we have voicemails, you guys, me and Mari are like shocked. We're like, people actually left us a message. I know. It's so much fun. Hi there. I'm Anna. I've been listening to your podcast for a while now and really appreciate the insightful discussions you bring to various health topics. Everywhere I
Starting point is 00:38:33 look, I feel like I'm being given ads and shown ads about Ozempic and weight loss medication. I'm curious about your perspective on it. Do you have any thoughts or opinions on drugs like Ozempic and effectiveness and managing weight loss? Uh, if you, I would love to also know, will you be having anyone on the podcast in the future to kind of dig deeper into these types of drugs and the pros and cons? Because I feel like they're being advertised to people that may not need them. So who is it good for? Who is it not good for? And what are your thoughts? I'd love to hear your insights on this topic. Thank you, Anna. So interesting you bring that up. The reason that Fi and I just smiled was
Starting point is 00:39:17 because we just had Dr. Gabrielle on the show. Dr. Gabrielle Lyon. She is a protein and muscle expert. And I asked her about Ozempic. And I'm going to wait until that episode drops for you guys to hear her answer. I'm not a doctor, but I have heard mixed feedback on Ozempic. I've heard that it's ruining people's blood work and their kidneys and overloading their liver. But I've also heard it is a very effective tool for people who have really struggled with their weight their whole life. And maybe this is a way for them to get in the gate and get some confidence and feel better about it. And then they can take it for themselves there. And I've also heard it helping with PCOS. So I don't think I'm necessarily the right person to speak on it because I don't need Ozempic. So if I, maybe I had struggled with weight my whole life or I had PCOS, like I,
Starting point is 00:40:18 you know, from The Toast, Claudia. She speaks about her positive experience with it. And I think for someone like her, it was fantastic. So it's hard to say. It's really hard to say. And I'm noticing a huge shift in the industry when it comes to Ozempic. Even supplement companies are like shifting their marketing towards people who are on it.
Starting point is 00:40:40 So I think we should have an expert come on who maybe specifically talks about Ozempic and the benefits and the negative side effects. That would be my answer. I don't know if you want to add anything. I've looked into it. I'm going to be so honest. The whole time I was saying that, I was like trying to decide if I was going to say anything. I'm not on it. I've never tried it, but I have looked into it. I know I have like, I love my body and I love who I am, but I am someone that I have yo-yoed 30 to 40 pounds up and down over the last like eight years. I know I shared like growing up, I went to fat camp.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Like I have my family, it runs in my family. We've struggled with our weight our whole lives. I've like talked about my brother maybe getting on it. Like we, it's, but I don't know. I've thought about it. We'll see. I want to learn more about it.
Starting point is 00:41:39 It's a little scary. Like I feel like it was amazing. All these people say great things, but then there's also a lot of information online that's really scary. Like I feel like it was amazing. All these people say great things, but then there's also a lot of information online that's really scary. So I don't know. I'm really trying to like focus on my eating habits and like the mental part of food issues I have
Starting point is 00:41:55 and getting exercise. But I don't know. I do a lot of that already and I still struggle a lot with my weight. I do. So yeah, talking about it with you, I think you're going about it the right way by not jumping into it and waiting to talk to professionals.
Starting point is 00:42:13 And maybe even we listen to an expert come on the show and then you make a decision afterwards and see how you feel. I don't think you need it. I think you look amazing and I know you take care of yourself. But yeah, that's kind of our unprofessional opinion just from talking to a few different people. I was going to say something else. Also, I would like to add that Fi has done extensive blood work and hormone testing, which she's going to go through soon. So she is doing like a full circle health moment right now. I'm working on it. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:46 I really am working on it. No, you don't need to work on anything. But I know that you struggle with your gut and other things and you're looking into that. So yeah, I think it's like a bigger issue than just me saying I want to lose some weight. Yes. But also I do try to eat very well and I do work out. So it's not like I'm just trying to like find my magic pill. I think a lot of people are ozempic curious. Yeah. Oh, that's a good phrase. Ozempic curious.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Maybe it's the title of the episode. Ozempic curious. Ozempic curious. I am ozempic curious. In response to people taking it who don't need it, such a problem in LA. Everyone is on ozempic and they are far too underweight and it's ruining muscle mass and people are just not eating for days which is just beyond messed up definitely don't condone that okay the next one's from adriana hi mari hi fee um i just wanted to thank you guys for great content with the pursuit of wellness
Starting point is 00:43:48 podcast um i am like i know i listen to every episode i listen before i go to sleep i suffer from panic attacks so that helps me calm down and um i I followed you since you started 2017 and I'm really happy that I'm following such a great person like you my question is I am on a fitness journey and I want to lose some weight but I go back and forth gaining and losing. And I don't know how to fix that problem. I don't know how to establish some kind of a good routine to lose weight without gaining it back. Have a nice day. Thank you very much for all you do for us.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Very sweet. Thank you, Adriana. So sweet. Really appreciate the support. Gaining and losing I mean I think the thing with weight loss is that it's quite formulaic when you really break it down you need to establish how much you're eating a day you need to track and I think if you're listening and you've struggled with eating disorders or anything like that don't track your food, like that's different. But if you are simply trying to lose weight, get MyFitnessPal, get an app, plug in every single thing you're eating in a day.
Starting point is 00:45:11 That's what I did at the start of my fitness journey to figure out, okay, how many calories am I eating? Let's say I'm eating 2000 a day. Now I know 2000 calories is maintaining me at my body weight, or I'm gaining weight at 2000. It kind of depends on your activity level, your body, etc. In order to lose weight, you need to slowly decrease that amount of calorie or increase your calorie burn. So either you need to work out more or eat a little bit less. I think if you're going back and forth, there may be a little bit of lack of tracking or a little bit of lack of accuracy and maybe also tracking your workouts and making sure you're increasing the weight and the workouts are getting more intense and catching
Starting point is 00:45:57 up with your fitness level as well. So just keep that in mind, but also keep in mind as women, the scale is going to fluctuate at different times of the month. I don't think the scale is the most accurate way of measuring weight. I personally like using the way clothes fit me or just like visually how things are looking. The scale can be, I don't know. I personally never loved it. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with all that. Great tips. I feel like I just said, I've struggled with this as well. But I know one thing. I think creating a sustainable plan, like if you go all in, like exactly what Mari was saying, kind of like if you decide I'm going to do this many calories,
Starting point is 00:46:38 I'm going to do an hour of cardio every day, like at the start, that might help. But then you have to keep adding to that to like get more and more results so I would say start like slower like I know at the beginning of your journey you just started walking yeah do as little as possible is what I would say which sounds crazy because it's like anyone trying to start their journey is like I'm gonna do a drastic diet while also doing two hours of workouts a day like I I would say, and I know from my own experience, I've tried that and I burn out after a week. And then, okay, maybe I lost two pounds.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I gained four because I just 180. So I think that's a big part of it. I also think from personal experience, if you're like yo-yoing like that, there could be, I would say like a mental aspect to it. I think for people, like I know I've spoken with Mari about it and you have always had a very like healthy mindset with food. Yeah. You don't really like cope with food. So I think whether it's like stress or happy or sad or anything like that, I know when I've kind of yo-yoed, it's because I think I can be doing the workouts
Starting point is 00:47:47 and I can be doing the stuff, but like mentally, I like am holding myself back in a way. Like I haven't fully figured out why I have that relationship with food or why I'm so, I follow my plan during the week and then I would binge on the weekend. So I think like the mental aspect is something everyone that's on their fitness journey at the start should also look into. Yeah, agreed. I like that aspect of it. That's a good point. I don't think about that sometimes.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Okay, this one is from Olivia Dodonna. Fun fact about Olivia Dodonna. She was the first fan I ever met. Oh, Olivia. On Long Island. And i have to play this one because we love olivia hi marian fee it's olivia tadona your og girl from long island you guys know i love you both very much um my question is how like what are you guys most excited about living in austin you guys seem like you're living your best lives already and it's not been that long since you moved there so what are you most excited about do you have any concerns at all um austin has been like one of my dream places to live and seeing you guys there and living your best lives is making me very excited and eager to just go and live there myself so yeah that's my question and come back to long island soon
Starting point is 00:49:02 because we miss you out here. Okay, bye. I love her so much. Love her. She's so sweet. Yeah, you should move to Austin. Like as a young person, this is such a fun city for so many different types of people. Like for me being in my married business owner
Starting point is 00:49:18 trying to have a baby era, it's amazing. I feel like you are thriving. You and Kenny, you're on top. I don't want to give your address away. we're like the heart of Austin yeah they're living in a fun area you could go out you could go out to eat there's pickleball there's bars there's beer gardens everyone has dogs it really is a vibe in terms of anything I'm concerned about I'm concerned about the summer yeah the bugs in the heat is the thing I'm concerned about, I'm concerned about the summer. Yeah. The bugs and the heat
Starting point is 00:49:46 is the thing I'm concerned about. But I also feel like we have so many travel plans that will be fine. Also, just like the pool. Yeah, I get it gets really hot. I'm just I would prefer hot over cold any day. True. Like I have family that lives in Wisconsin and they're like, it's negative 40 degrees. And I'm like, absolutely not. Like, at least when it's really sweltering hot, like, yeah, you should not, like,
Starting point is 00:50:06 be staying outside. But, like, you can get to your car. Like, try to get to your car through 80 inches of snow. And,
Starting point is 00:50:12 like, no. I can't wait to check in when we're actually experiencing heat. I mean, that's me not, yeah, I don't know yet.
Starting point is 00:50:17 But, yeah, just in Austin in general, you guys, just such good vibes. I can't even explain it. I wake up every day, like Mario said,
Starting point is 00:50:24 I'm just, like, excited. Me too. I'm happy. I wake up every day like Mari said. I'm just like excited. Me too. I'm happy. I'm at peace. The birds are chirping. I look at my apartment.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I'm like, I love it here. Every day me and my boyfriend text each other like, I love it here. I just love this apartment. I'm like in my fridge. I'm like, I love this fridge. I'm not kidding. Everything.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Me on the grass. I love this grass. I love this grass. I did my laundry in unit. Oh my God. It was amazing. I was like, I love my laundry machines. Like just really the little things.
Starting point is 00:50:52 It makes you appreciate the simple things. It does. And just the quality of life. I love it here. 100%. Austin Girlies for life. Liz. Hi, you guys.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I just want to say that i love listening to you guys more i've been listening to you since you were in colorado and just want to say you've motivated me so much to just eat better and just do better um i know you guys are all about the clean products. So I wanted to ask what kind of laundry detergent do you guys use and body lotions? Slay. I use Branch Basics. I also love Earth Breeze, the sheet detergent. Branch Basics is my favorite cleaning product for my whole house. I feel like it's unscented, great ingredients, doesn't bother my skin. Body lotion, I'm still on a journey with. I use Gold Bond right now, which is kind of weird, but it's non-pore clogging. Like I went through the whole website and found that one. So I use that. But if anyone knows of a better one, let me know. I need to get on all those. I use like a sensitive skin like pod right now, but I really want to get,
Starting point is 00:52:05 I think I'm actually going to purchase for my new apartment, the Branch Basics set. Cute. With Code Pow. Code Pow. And guys, like I use all of Mari's codes. Just so you guys know,
Starting point is 00:52:15 like these codes are really great. So does my husband. Like really, my mom does too. Like the codes are great. So I think I honestly. Why don't we put all the codes in the show notes great idea my husband uses my codes for ordering meat yeah maui nui venison slay but yeah i'm trying to get on that that natural grind as well mari knows like i should i have sensitive skin i
Starting point is 00:52:36 have allergies i'm probably just like like toxifying myself I don't know what to say. Anyways, guys, that was our time. Poisoning. Poisoning myself. Thank you, Fi. You are poisoning yourself. Thank you guys so much for all of the voice messages, for all the questions. We will be tuning back in very soon to listen to more voice messages. So don't forget to leave us one. The link is in the show notes. Thank you, Fi, for joining us today. Thanks for having me. Just a reminder to hit the subscribe button and follow and leave a review because it really, really, really, really helps us over here at POW. We are working our butts off to make this show happen. And it would be amazing if you could just subscribe. So we love you guys. Thank you. Love you. Love you. Bye. bye bye thanks for joining us on the pursuit of
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