Pursuit of Wellness - Olivia Adriance: How To Make Healthy Food Fun, Pregnancy & Unsolicited Advice

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Ep. 189: Just days before her due date, Olivia Adriance joins us to share what it’s really like being pregnant as a content creator. We break down the pressure to stay productive even during pregnan...cy and how she’s navigating unsolicited advice with more intention than ever. Olivia also opens up about taking a two-month break from Instagram during her first trimester — a decision that helped protect her peace. It’s a conversation full of honesty, humor, and of course pregnancy cravings! Leave Me a Message - click here! For Mari’s Instagram click here! For Pursuit of Wellness Podcast’s Instagram click here! For Mari’s Newsletter click here! For Olivia’s Instagram click here! Sponsored By: Cook cleaner with Caraway—save 10% on non-toxic, ceramic cookware at carawayhome.com/MARI10. Safer materials, smarter kitchens, easy returns. Get 20% off your first CLEARSTEM order at clearstem.com/POW—clinically-backed skincare that targets acne and aging, without clogging pores. Experience natural period relief with Foria. Visit foriawellness.com/POW for 20% off organic, CBD-powered comfort melts and soothing salves. Transform your skincare routine in just 10 minutes a day—save 15% at boncharge.com with code PURSUIT at checkout. This is your sign to start that summer side hustle—launch your business today at shopify.com/mari. It’s easier than ever. Get your 5th carton free at davidprotein.com/POW—each David bar has 28g protein, 0g sugar, and only 150 calories. Show Links: Subscribe to Olivia’s Substack: Extra Scoop Shop Olivia’s Ebooks Support digestion, fight bloat, and boost energy with Bloom Greens—38 superfood ingredients in one delicious daily scoop. Topics discussed: 00:00:00: Intro 00:00:15: Welcome  00:01:27: How Olivia’s routine has changed since pregnancy 00:03:13: How Olivia’s love for healthy food started 00:06:44: The process behind creating and shooting a recipe 00:09:36: Food styling 00:16:07: Postpartum 00:19:32: How Olivia found out she was pregnant 00:23:21: Olivia’s pregnancy announcement 00:28:40: Unsolicited pregnancy advice 00:31:16: Pregnancy irritability 00:33:47: Pregnancy workouts 00:44:02: Pregnancy nutrition 00:48:45: Olivia’s cookbook 00:49:21: Pregnancy food hyperfixations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You cannot trust anything that's coming out of like my taste buds during pregnancy, which has been really interesting in developing a cookbook. This is the Pursuit of Wellness podcast, and I'm your host, Mari Llewellyn. Olivia, welcome to the Pursuit of Wellness. It's amazing to be here. Thank you so much. I am a pow girl, which I actually don't even know if I've told you this. I had no idea. So it's fun to be, you know be on the other side of the camera.
Starting point is 00:00:27 That's so sweet. And guys, just if you're not watching on camera, Olivia is literally about to give birth. Like we talked about doing this episode and you were like, yeah, unless I'm giving birth that day. And like literally you were like, I might be cramping. So I can't believe you're here right now and you look amazing. And congratulations.
Starting point is 00:00:45 And we're all so happy for you. Thank you. Yes, for context, I'm due in two days. This is crazy that you're here right now. Kind of the most pregnant that you can be. Which is insane because you literally have heels on and you look good. Like this is insane.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Like you look amazing. I'm glad that we're recording in the morning because by the end of the day, I'm not sure if the heels were, yeah. It's like a downward spiral. What time are you in bed nowadays? Last night, 9 30. And I've been letting myself sleep until 7 30. Yep, as you should. And it's been amazing. Like the last week, I just committed to, you are not going to be an early riser. You need to like sleep as much as you can now before this baby comes out and like completely wrecks your schedule. Like rest up honey. How much has your routine changed from
Starting point is 00:01:29 before you were pregnant to now? I was definitely a lot more rigid in my habits and routines and everything was like super systematized and I think one of the main takeaways from pregnancy is I'm building a lot more flexibility and less rigidity into my schedule. It's like, okay, I need to give myself some margin. I can't run at the same pace that I was running. And I'm sure you can relate so well to this where you're like in the zone, in work mode for so many years that you start to operate like a machine and pregnancy does not really allow for that. It's like that masculine feminine vibe that everyone talks about. And some people don't like that word, but I feel like, yeah, I was in fight
Starting point is 00:02:11 or flight for so long. And this like going through IVF and pregnancy completely shifted the way that I approach my life for the first time. And it's kind of nice because it really does force you to change your perspective on how you do things. Like such a release of control. Yes. And realizing that part of that release is actually very liberating. Yes. At first I held tightly to like, no, I want to maintain like the same level of putting out content like I was and I want to be working out like I was before, eating like I was before, and realizing that
Starting point is 00:02:46 I could release some of that rigidity and nothing would really change all that much. Work kept going on at a normal pace and I felt really good. I felt really strong. It's helped me be more flexible in my mindset about everything. Yeah, which is a great learning lesson to bring into the rest of your life as well. And I can't wait to talk about like workouts and pregnancy nutrition.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Before we hop in, you have 1.6 million followers. You have an amazing food page. Honestly, I think your page is my favorite to follow. It really is, because you post, you make food fun. And I feel like you focus on gluten-free, dairy-free, refined sugar-free most of the time, but the food is still so delicious and fun looking. Where did your love of food begin? I'm so glad that that is what comes through on my page, first of all. It's been very intentional for me to create a space where like food is fun, it's joyful, it's healthy,
Starting point is 00:03:46 and it happens to be gluten-free, dairy-free, refined, sugar-free. It's not like, all right, we're starting with the rules and now we're trying to force it to be interesting. I really want food to just be an enjoyable part of everyday life. It started because, very similar to your story, I have very acne prone skin. And I battled it from the time that I was 10 years old until like my mid 20s when I was getting deep cystic acne that I just like could not figure out how to fix.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So I really made a lot of diet and lifestyle modifications. And one of those was switching to a gluten-free, dairy-free, refined sugar-free diet, really trying to limit inflammatory foods but still eat joyfully. I felt like a lot of the content that I was consuming at the time was, okay, if you're going to eat quote unquote healthy,
Starting point is 00:04:37 it has to look a certain way. Chicken and rice. Chicken and rice. Yep. Like you're boiling things, you're steaming things. Like that is the extent of the excitement that we're getting into. And I was like, that is not enough for me.
Starting point is 00:04:49 So I started to share content around the time like my mid twenties. Started to get really into cooking, started sharing content and realized that there is this whole community of people who wanted to eat this way and experience joy and like eat healthy and Maybe they were dealing with the same skin issues as me or maybe it was just it was already feel good or other health issues But it started to reach so many people and it was really exciting and the last four years of
Starting point is 00:05:18 Really devoting myself to like building a business in the food content space has been Incredible and very exciting. I think that is how I found your page. I think it was because I was struggling so badly with acne and I tried some crazy diets. I've spoken about it on the podcast. If you even go back and look at my podcast videos from a year ago, my acne was so, so, so bad. And I went through phases of like full keto, only eating meat, like crazy shit, honestly. And now I'm like, what was I doing? Like none of it helped. But it was like this control factor of like, if only I eat like this, then maybe my skin will get better. And it ended up being some gut bacteria that I needed to do antibiotics for, which was crazy. So none of
Starting point is 00:06:01 the diet things actually ended up helping, but eating gluten-free, dairy-free, refined sugar-free made me feel better. And it definitely helped with the inflammation of my skin. So I feel like that is how I ended up on your page. And I'm sure how so many people find your recipes. But like, when I think of your recipes, I think of the brownies, the nachos, like it is really fun and colorful, which is so cool and I love that. Because I went through a phase on my page of doing a lot of recipes, like maybe for like six months. And that was the hardest content that I've ever had to produce.
Starting point is 00:06:33 It would take me the entire day. I would have tripods here, tripods there, like I'm running around making sure my angles are good. I ended up like hiring someone to help me. And I was like, I don't think I can keep doing this. Like what is the actual process of creating a new recipe angles are good, I ended up hiring someone to help me. And I was like, I don't think I can keep doing this. What is the actual process of creating a new recipe and then shooting it?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Someone actually recently asked me if they, like they were trying a bunch of different things with their content. And they were saying like some of my lifestyle stuff does well, but like my random recipes that I'll share do like really well. Do you think I should dedicate more time to recipes? And I was like, well, I am biased
Starting point is 00:07:06 because that's just my preferred creative art form. I love to cook. That's a unique differentiator for me. But that is by far the hardest type of content that I do. And if I'm gonna whip out every now and then, I'll put a day in the life or what I eat in a day or that type of content. And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is so easy. So much easier.
Starting point is 00:07:27 It's so great. Yeah. Like a collage. I'm like, oh my, I should really start incorporating more of this. So it is definitely a heavier lift, but it has just happened to be the thing that I feel like is what I can offer uniquely to my platform. But in terms of process, that I can offer uniquely to my platform. But in terms of process, my process has gotten much more expansive as I feel like there's more pressure and more eyeballs on my page.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Like in the beginning, it was easy to just, this is what I'm having for dinner tonight. Like I'm just kind of throwing things together, pulling things out of my pantry. It's delicious, it's fun. But now I do feel this pressure that everything needs to be tested. So it's like I'm going through the process, making the recipe multiple times. And then I have a recipe tester who tests the recipes. Before you film. Before
Starting point is 00:08:17 I film. To make sure it's actually good. Make sure it's good and poke at it a little. Ask me questions like, okay, if someone is going to substitute this type of flour, what's gonna be the outcome? Like, you need to be specific about- Like does it fall apart if you use almond flour? Exactly, and those were things that were very much a learn as I went because I am a home cook, I'm self-taught. I didn't go to culinary school, I didn't learn about
Starting point is 00:08:43 like the chemistry of different flours, And it's been a really good learning process as people have given me feedback that like, I tried this and it was terrible. And I'm like, oh, well, what did you change about it? And they're like, roughly everything. Sounds like a you program. Okay, that's a little bit of user error here. But it's good for me because now when I have my blog posts written, I can be a lot more specific about like, okay, if you're going to make the substitution, it's going to be cake year, or it's not going to have the same rise or whatever it is. So yeah, it's a lot of like me personally making the recipes, getting them tested, and
Starting point is 00:09:20 then shooting them. And it's like a whole process. It just seems so detail oriented. And then even the aesthetics of it, like for Bloom, when I used to like do the props for the shoots, like I used to be behind the camera and I would help have the lettuce and whatever fruits we were using.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Food styling is really, really difficult. It's so hard. Yes. Because the food looks good for about two minutes. You're like, okay, it has to have the perfect sheen on it. And I have so much respect for food photographers. And for projects that I work on, like my eBooks and a future cookbook, there is no way I am shooting those photos because it is an art form. It's so hard to make food look good for like a long period of time.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah, they're like spraying things and putting like nail varnish on fruits. Like there's all these tricks to make food look better. My last ebook shoot, we had like a basic matcha latte in it. And I'm holding the matcha and the food stylist is like, don't accidentally drink it because we put Windex on the glass to make it like really, really vibrant and clean. Okay. Thank you. Please don't put Windex on the glass to make it like really, really vibrant and clean. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Okay. Thank you. Please don't drink Windex. Do not drink Windex. That's my worst nightmare actually. Drinking Windex. That day was the day that I found out that I was pregnant. Oh God.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I can't even imagine. I'm like sipping on Windex. No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh God. But yeah, like that's what it takes because food looks good in real life, but when you put it on camera, you almost need to like zhuzh it up. And that has been one of the biggest learnings
Starting point is 00:10:50 I feel like in my content creation because I am not someone who is naturally driven by the aesthetic. I don't really have like a great eye for food styling. I always say like, if you come over to our house and you think it looks nice, it's because of Kyle. Kyle has much more of like an interior design eye. Does he? He does. He's like very much into the aesthetic and I'm so grateful for that.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I'm not either. Like these, I see these girls with like gorgeously curated feeds. I mean, honestly, I would think that you are because your feed is so gorgeous, but that is not the way that I lean, honestly. No, I love having help in that regard. Yeah. Even like Kyle will help with like what I'm gonna wear. He loves having a little bit of a say in like my outfit. So sweet. It's really cute.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Where is he from originally? Pennsylvania. Where in Pennsylvania? Montrose. Okay. It's this little town in Northeast Pennsylvania. I went to school in Philly, so I kind of know some of therose. Okay. It's this little town in Northeast Pennsylvania. I went to school in Philly. So I kind of know some of the areas. Okay. Where are you from originally? Eugene, Oregon. Okay. Yes. I read that. Did you grow up around horses? I grew up not really
Starting point is 00:11:55 around horses, but like out in the country. Yeah. Okay. So some of our neighbors had horses, but it was like a lot of cows, chickens, sheep. Yeah. It was very cute and wholesome. Oregon looks gorgeous. It's gorgeous. We're actually going to go this summer after baby's born. With the baby. With the baby.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Have her meet the family and spend a little time away from the Texas heat, which will be nice. I was kind of like thinking about having a baby in this heat and I feel like it would be really tough because it's not like you're going outside at 3 p.m. It's insane. I'm a little bit worried about being like freshly postpartum in the hundred degree weather. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Because yeah, I think you want to be taking them outside. You want them to get vitamin D and that light in their eyes in the morning, but like, my gosh. It's a lot. I'm gonna be a hormonal mess and just like sweating. but like, my gosh, it's a lot. I'm gonna be a hormonal mess and just like, sweating. One thing I've been obsessed with for my skin
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Starting point is 00:16:00 Hungryroot.com slash pow, code pow. Hungryroot.com slash pow, code pow. ["Hungryroot"] Like how do you even begin to think about your life postpartum? Like I'm sure it's really difficult to even know what to expect. Like how are you kind of approaching that? I've been talking to a lot of women
Starting point is 00:16:18 who have businesses and trying to educate myself on like what they're doing, what they wish they would have done differently with their babies in the beginning. And overwhelmingly what it sounds like is it's really hard to go back to work no matter like how late into it you phase back in. It's just really hard. And I do feel grateful that I work from home.
Starting point is 00:16:47 So like going back to work is going to look very different. That is such a privilege. It's been a balance of like baking in that flexibility. Like we talked about, like I'm not giving myself a super rigid, okay, after eight weeks or after three months, I'm like gonna be fully back in the swing. Yeah. I've prepped enough content to give myself like a couple months of time off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So I'm planning on at least two months of like stepping away. Amazing. Which will be really nice and just bonding and soaking in cuddles and Us learning each other and how to breastfeed and all of that stuff all the things all the things that you have to start learning So I'm definitely looking forward to taking my first ever break from content in Four years. I was thinking over the weekend. I haven't not posted like The most I've ever gone without posting is four days. So what is that going to look like? Are you going to delete social or just not go on?
Starting point is 00:17:53 I think I'll still have it. I will still be posting all the content that I prepped and then every week my substack is going to go out. So I will be promoting my substack, but that's one of those things that like I have assets that I have built so that I can put posts out on my story and I don't have to be like recording something live. You're prepped. I feel really prepped and it's been a lot of work to like my assistant Chelsea is here and she has been so helpful like editing videos and making sure I have time
Starting point is 00:18:25 to review them before. The editing is a lot. It's a lot. It's honestly actually one of my favorite parts of everything. I love editing, but it's, I mean, even with recipes, especially it's tough. Do you still edit your own videos?
Starting point is 00:18:37 Well, it depends what it is. If it's a podcast clip, my producer Darby helps, but if it's like a vlog or something I'm making, I will edit it for sure. I do love the editing and that was hard for me to turn over because I felt like, yeah, well, this is where I'm like, part of my creativity comes in. Yeah. But in the first trimester, when I was a horizontal person, it was hard for me to like keep my head up. And I was like sitting down in between filming different recipe clips. Like I was so tired. Yeah, I finally
Starting point is 00:19:04 released that I was like holding so tightly so tired. I finally released that. I was holding so tightly to it before I finally released it and had Chelsea start helping with editing. And she's such a whiz at it. She's so good. I'm like, why did I hold onto this for so long? Wait, I wanna talk about the beginning of your pregnancy. So when did you first get pregnant?
Starting point is 00:19:21 September. It was like a wedding weekend from one of our friends, which was really cute. Oh, that is cute. And were you guys trying? We were. Yeah. We had decided like, okay, I think that we're ready to do this. Okay. Tell us about the moment you found out you were pregnant. And then I want to hear about your first trimester. I had just come from an ebook photo shoot and I was like, gosh, I'm so tired. Maybe it was just because being on camera all day, it's a lot. So you're tired. and I was like, gosh, I'm so tired. I don't, maybe it was just, cause being on camera all day, it's a lot, so you're tired.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And I was kind of poo pooing this idea that maybe I was pregnant. And I was supposed to get my period that day. And I was like, oh, maybe like the stress of building up to this photo shoot and launching this ebook. Like I'm just, you know, maybe I won't start today. I should have been clued in by the fact that my boobs were insanely sore.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Like way more than normal PMS symptoms, but I was having all of those normal PMS symptoms. I was like a little crampy. It was like a little in my soft girl era. A little crying. I got home from the shoot and I told Kyle, oh, I was supposed to start my period today, but I didn't. And he was like, I think you should take a test
Starting point is 00:20:27 just so we feel like, I don't know, just so we know for sure. I had these little flimsy paper Amazon tests. Oh, I don't know. I forget what they're called. Are they pink? It was the packaging pink. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I've used those. I think I've used every single test on the market. You're like, I'm a pro at these tests. I love that you know the brand name. Oh, I know all the brands. Yeah. I took that little flimsy guy. Peed on it and only like one line developed, which was negative. And so I was like, OK, well, now I have this flimsy little stick
Starting point is 00:21:01 that's covered in pee. What do I do with it? So I just like set it in my sink and then popped in the shower. Yeah. Got out of the shower and a second small line had developed and it was like not enough for me to be fully convinced. Those tasks take a minute. Okay. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:21:17 So I was like, oh, negative like moving on with my life. But I sent a photo to my sister because she, for context, she gave birth three months ago. So we're three months apart in our pregnancies. Oh my God, that's so special. It's really cute. So every trimester that she was just popping out of, I was just entering into. That's awesome to have someone to talk to. It was really nice. It's such a good resource. But I texted her and I was like, is this positive?
Starting point is 00:21:39 And she goes, very positive. Oh my gosh. Very positive. So I ran into the laundry room where Kyle was, and I was like, babe, it was positive. And he goes, take another. Like, so just, we need to prove this. Like, you need to take another. So I took another one of like the flimsy little paper ones. It was also positive. And so I was like, okay, now it's time to bring out the big guns.
Starting point is 00:22:02 The clear blue. It's time for the clear blue. It's time for the clear blue. It's time for the clear blue. Because you want to see that pregnant, like the word. I need to make sure that this is solid. So I had one clear blue test that had been in my drawer for like five years from right after Kyle and I got married. I had a little, oh, am I pregnant?
Starting point is 00:22:21 And like bought a pack of two. And so literally it was like so old and it was positive. And I was like, oh my gosh, like this is insane. It was kind of a full body experience as I'm sure you know, it's like, well what now? Yeah, yeah, it's the craziest feeling. Cause you don't feel pregnant yet. No.
Starting point is 00:22:42 You certainly don't look it. The boobs were the first thing for me too though. Like, but I wasn't sure if it was hormones or not. No. You certainly don't look it. The boobs were the first thing for me too though. But I wasn't sure if it was hormones or not. Yes. I was like, is it just from my IVF meds? Or like, I didn't know. But I do think that's like a telltale sign for a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah, I really should have been more in tune with, obviously this is. Because I'm- It's hard to believe. It is very hard to believe. It's like this amazing thing that you dream about and then it happens and you're like, how is this real? And then you like keep taking tests to like prove to yourself that you're still pregnant. I took one every day I think for three weeks.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I'm sure. Yeah. Because it's like, and then you schedule like your first appointment. Yeah. And you really want to be pregnant at this appointment. So I was like, okay, I'm just gonna keep taking tests. And how long did you keep it secret? Because I feel like you didn't talk about it publicly until like for a while, right? I think I was 22 weeks pregnant when I finally announced. Oh my god,
Starting point is 00:23:35 so you really held that in? I held it in for a long time. And I just, I was so used to having a platform that was like very focused on food and less focused on my lifestyle that I didn't really know how to talk about something this big and personal. And it felt so sacred to me that I wanted to keep it just close to my heart for a while. Kyle and I got married before I ever had a platform. So it was just like, I had never had any sort of big moment happen personally, publicly. And I wasn't sure how I was going to react to that and also how my audience would react to it because like they're very much here for recipes. And I think that was reflected in, you know, it was obviously like a moment when I finally did announce where there was a lot of support
Starting point is 00:24:18 and it was so sweet. But I also lost 7,000 followers that day. So it's like, clearly there's an audience that was very much. 7,000? It was a lot. And it's like odd that I even know that, but I was very curious how my audience was gonna react. That is really interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Cause I guess, yeah, your page is very food focused. I feel like since being pregnant, maybe it's shifted a little bit. I definitely talk more in my stories about lifestyle. I had always woven those elements in, but it was like, what we're eating on date night. It was still like food adjacent. And then now I'm much more open about talking about pregnancy and things that are definitely more personal. And the response has been incredible in stories. I just think once things hit my feed, people are a little bit resistant. Well, also because you don't know like what algorithm it's
Starting point is 00:25:11 landing on. And if you hit men or some other group of people, it could just go downhill so quick. I can always tell when one of my videos isn't going to my followers and it's going to like the for you page. Yeah. Because then I'm like getting comments, rogue, crazy comments. I'm like, okay, this has gone too far. It's like the cons of anything going viral. I stopped reading comments on viral videos so long ago because they were the most heinous. Yes. And like the least reflective of my audience or of myself. So I was like, you know what? Yeah. Viral videos, I don't look at them. They're almost like not meant for us to see. Yes, I feel like I've had a few podcast clips go viral and people have, I mean, obviously people come on this show and have strong opinions about things
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Starting point is 00:28:40 Okay, so I talked about this on my last episode. Getting unsolicited advice while pregnant is a crazy wild thing that I just didn't really anticipate. How has that been for you? I guess I expected it a little only because I have a friend who she was doing fashion content and then she got pregnant. And she was like, the meanest comments you will ever get are the meanest comments you will ever get are like mom shaming type comments and just a lot of unsolicited advice on what to do with yourself, with your body, with your baby, with what you're eating. And like everything becomes a moral decision suddenly when you're pregnant.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And so the unsolicited advice has been interesting. I was definitely very particular a couple months after I got pregnant. Like I started to notice that everything was affecting me so much more. I was like really soft. I feel that way now. Oh my gosh. Everything was making me cry.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Every like piece of advice that felt triggering was like really upsetting me. So I've been very intentional about stepping away from my DMs, which has felt really strange because for the longest time, I loved being like so connected with my audience. And I still definitely pop in there pretty frequently, but I'm not like looking at that request folder as much. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Like if someone has moved out of the request folder and they're contributing to a conversation in a positive way, then I'll engage with that. But yeah, the request folder is a little bit scary. So scary. And I think that's the best thing you can do to protect your piece, especially when your hormones are all over the place and you're emotional.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I think I looked in my request folder this morning and I had a crazy message. Oh, no Like it's always about my dogs. Oh, which yeah, they're the loves of my life. Like it's crazy. What does it even possibly say about your dog? So we have a bigger older dog named Lulu, an angel. We've had her for 11 years and she's older and it's tough for her in the heat here. So we always have her go to our Greg's parents house on Long Island because it's cool. She can swim. She grew up there. She loves it. And she also hates traveling and we travel a ton in the summer. And my small dog, Arnold, loves traveling. He'll go anywhere. But people think I'm like abandoning Lulu. Even though
Starting point is 00:30:59 she lives the best life. I'm obsessed with her. Having like the ideal summer. She's having, she's summering on in the Hamptonsons. She's fine. But I get these heinous DMs about how I'm horrible to my dogs and I shouldn't be a mom. Anyway. Oh my gosh. That's so sad. But I laugh at it. I'm like, this is a crazy message to send someone. But in real life, I feel like I've been so much more emotional lately and a little bit irritable.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Oh my gosh. I went through and this was around like 16, 17 weeks. I got pregnancy rage. And I- I can't imagine you with pregnancy rage. Everyone I tell they're like, no. Like- You're so sweet. That sounds funny.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I was like so easily irked by everything. And I remember one day I told Kyle, you are not doing anything, but I am so mad at you. Like, you are being so wonderful. Everything about you is making me angry right now. The way you're breathing, the way like you're walking, when you put your hand on my back that one time, like so weird.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Sometimes that gets me too. I'm like, don't touch me. Don't go near my hair. Like whatever it is. And then other times I'm like, please touch me. Yes. Oh, I just want cuddles. I feel like truly bad.
Starting point is 00:32:12 At least you were honest about it. Like at least you were upfront, but it is a really crazy, like out of control feeling. Yes. I've noticed it come in and out and like, Yeah. It just feels also it's tough with your partner because I don't know if you felt this way,
Starting point is 00:32:29 but I feel like everything about me is changing. Like the way I look, the way I feel, my life, the what I think about everything and Greg's life is exactly the same. Yeah. And it can be a little hard to not like let resentment like bloom a little bit, but I've tried to be very aware at least of where
Starting point is 00:32:46 I'm feeling annoyed that he's able to carry on his normal life and he doesn't have these oppressive emotions sometimes where I'll be in church and I'll literally just start sobbing out of nowhere. I mean, I guess it's emotional. You know, they're like, are you okay? And then after one service we were leaving and I was still crying and he was like, so where do you wanna go for lunch?
Starting point is 00:33:15 And I'm like, I'm not even hungry. I can't believe that you're not sad. You should be sad too. You should be sad too. And he's like, about what? When I was going through IVF and we actually go to the same church and I would go to those services, I would be crying like low key by myself because it just, it is really moving
Starting point is 00:33:32 sometimes. The water works. Were you there on Mother's Day? I don't think so. It was like last month, but oh, I knew that Mother's Day was going to be like very sobby for me. So it was very much a no makeup day. I was like, we're going in bare.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Tissues, no makeup, let's go. Seriously. What kind of workouts have you done during your pregnancy? And then we'll talk about nutrition. So I had just taken up running right around the time when I got pregnant. That quickly fell off. No more running.
Starting point is 00:34:03 No more running. And it wasn't like, doctor prescribed, like, I don't want you running anymore. I just quite physically could not run. I was going to say, I see a lot of pregnant girls still running and I'm like, how? Because my boobs hurt too much. I was so fatigued that I could hardly go on our normal walks. So I'm like, very impressed by pregnant women who continue to run. And I think that's, it's very empowering.
Starting point is 00:34:25 It's very cool to watch. It just wasn't my journey. So in the beginning I was walking, doing legris and doing strength training. So legris I was doing like twice a week, strength training twice a week and then like daily walks. And I would say things started to change for me with legris around 13 weeks say things started to change for me with Legree around 13
Starting point is 00:34:45 weeks. I started to feel like, oh, I'm not able to engage my abs in the same way, which was so much earlier than I expected to kind of lose that control. So 13 weeks, I was still going, but I started meeting with the instructor before every class and like she was telling me all the modifications that I needed to make that day. It was funny, because by the end of pregnancy, I was modifying the whole freaking class. Like, I'm like taking my own class. Like, why am I even here?
Starting point is 00:35:13 It's a lot of abs. That's what scares me, because I was doing former and that's like so intense and it's so much abs. I don't even think I could do it right now. I ended up stopping at around 33, 34 weeks because I was so heavily modifying the ab series. I was doing the same three moves. They're moving everyone through this series of nine moves and I'm like, I'm just going to be over here doing bear the whole time and barely lifting my knees off of the platform. So around
Starting point is 00:35:47 20 weeks I had to stop walking and that was so hard on me because I love walks. It was like the way I was getting outside, the way I was clearing my head. It was really good for my mental health but I developed SPD, synthesis pubis dysfunction. Oh, I haven't heard of that. That one's a fun one. What is that? Basically, the relaxin that's flooding your system makes your pelvic area very loose. So the muscles are under constant stress. And I was just so incredibly sore in that area.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And when I described the pain, it feels like a strained hip flexor, but like across your whole pelvis. Wow. Okay. So that was really hard. And I started seeing a pelvic floor physical therapist and she was like, unfortunately walking is one of those exercises where it's like very passive shearing of that area. So it's kind of one of those things that pregnant women have to give up if they develop
Starting point is 00:36:44 this. That it was like a little bit heartbreaking, but I was like, okay, how can I figure out another way to move that's going to be compatible with this change in my body? So Kyle and I bought bikes and that was so fun. We started like biking around the neighborhood at night in exchange for walking. Just regular bikes. Just like beach cruisers. You know, I've kind of been dying to go on a bike ride actually now that you say that. Wait, you do have bikes. Yeah, we have bikes. We have like the blue je bikes. Okay. We're going to Aspen for a month soon and I want a bike there. So you just reminded me that I should do that. Yeah, do it. That's been- And that doesn't affect your pelvis area too much.
Starting point is 00:37:19 No, that was like totally fine for me. Around 26 weeks, I started doing EVLO, Shannon Richie's program. Yeah, so she has a prenatal specific part of her EVLO program. And so I started like really getting more into strength training and I love EVLO. I like overnight became an Evelo girl. Like, oh my gosh, this is the best thing.
Starting point is 00:37:48 It made me feel really strong, but it was like movements that felt so safe for my current season, which I started to lose that feeling about Legrie. I was like, I gotta modify so much of this. Whereas Evelo, I wasn't modifying anything. It was specifically for like that week of pregnancy that I was in. I've been weight training too, it feels really good.
Starting point is 00:38:09 It does. Because you can focus on different parts of your body without targeting this area too much, you feel strong, you feel empowered. I haven't tried Evlo, I should. It's awesome. But I was, yeah, I was thinking of looking into some kind of prenatal program because I'm
Starting point is 00:38:26 doing things that feel safe, but sometimes I'm like chat, GBT, like, is it okay if I do this? Is it okay if I do that? You know, as part of Shannon's program, she is currently pregnant when she's doing it and she's recording the class in the week of, you know, gestation that she's teaching for. And she's a doctor of physical therapy. So there's so much information given about like how to safely do the exercises. And I feel like I learned so much about my body, not just my pregnant body, but how to operate in like a strength training setting through her program. And you come with so much more knowledge about strength training.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I mean, I'm self-taught, you know, whatever. Whatever you're doing is clearly working. Thank you. Yeah, it was very empowering to just be like, oh, I'm self taught, so whatever. Whatever you're doing is clearly working. Thank you. Yeah, it was very empowering to just be like, oh, I'm actually getting stronger throughout pregnancy, which is not really the rhetoric of working out during pregnancy. You kind of feel like, all right, I'm just going to progressively lose muscle. I'm going to progressively feel less strong, less empowered to move my body, but that hasn't been the case for me.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah, it kind of flips the narrative. I feel like when I first got pregnant, I was so nervous of doing something wrong because my IVF clinic was like, don't lift too heavy. At first, they're very conservative, obviously, because they want to make sure it worked. But now that I'm in this normal era of being pregnant, I'm just noticing how good it makes me feel. And I'm not thinking about the same things anymore. Like previously, maybe I wanted my abs to show,
Starting point is 00:39:54 or you know, what I wanted muscle to show. And now I think about being strong for childbirth. I think about having a kid and being strong. I've even heard science that your actual fetus will be stronger if you're stronger, which is amazing. Like crazy. So like the baby's kind of weightlifting too. I don't know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:12 But it is kind of amazing. And I think it's cool that we're talking about it because I was a little bit nervous to post that I was weightlifting because I was worried about the feedback because people are so sensitive about everything. Yes, there's a lot of opinions about how you should be moving or not moving during pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And I think this has helped me tap into intuition. It's like a balance of being informed and intuitive about the movement. Like, OK, where can I go to get good, solid resources around how to safely move? And also, what feels good for me. Yes. How do I just like listen to, oh, you know what, this one, this doesn't feel good anymore. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:43:55 So sign up at www.functionhealth.com slash pow, P-O-W. Did you read Expecting Better? No, but I've heard you talk about it and I'm like, is it too late to read it? Well, you're about to give birth. I got two days. I was curious because it's a lot about food and it's about the statistics of, so obviously at the beginning they're like, don't eat deli meat, don't eat sushi, whatever, all the things they say. And this author, Emily Oster, I think her name is, breaks down the statistics of these actual foods, deli meat, and why, why doctors tell us not to eat them and
Starting point is 00:44:38 the actual likelihood of getting sick or whatever it is. And that was really interesting to read because it kind of like busted a lot of the myths that I had in my head. And it's not that I like ran and ate sushi. I still haven't eaten sushi, even though I miss it a lot actually. But it helps you make your own decisions about what you're eating and what you feel safe eating. Have you like with your recipes and things like that, are people like, oh, you shouldn't be eating that? Or do people say things like that? There's this morning tonic that I am obsessed with from Alchemy Juice. Oh, yes. Yeah. I love that place.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And it has butterfly pea powder in it. And someone was like, that can send you into labor. Like it made me have contractions. And I'm thinking, oh gosh, maybe I shouldn't be drinking this. But it's also like the smallest amount. It's literally for color. Just to make it blue. Exactly. So I'm like, okay, let's be realistic. I'm drinking it like two days a week and I've been drinking it throughout my whole pregnancy. Clearly the baby's still in there. We're doing fine. We're doing fine. She's nice and snug. I will occasionally get comments like that or, and these ones I find really helpful. I'm doing this postpartum series of this is what I'm prepping, this is what I'm filling my freezer with.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Oh, love that. That's been really fun. There are certain things like parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme that you're not supposed to be introducing during breastfeeding. And like I made this introducing during breastfeeding. And like I made this really delicious like Tuscan chicken bake and I put thyme in it. And so it is helpful every now and then when people are like, you know, maybe you don't actually want to be eating that in postpartum and again, it's like such small,
Starting point is 00:46:15 it's like a teaspoon of thyme. What is the reasoning behind that? It can reduce your milk supply. Got it. So it has, there's something in those herbs that like can possibly negatively affect. Now I don't want to be like fear mongering anyone. Like, oh my gosh, this is just the feedback that I'm getting in my pants. I didn't know that. Yeah. And is there
Starting point is 00:46:37 certain things you can eat to increase milk supply? I'm sure. Yes. So I actually recently made some like lactation support cookies and this was another thing that people were like, literally anything you post about pregnancy, and I'm sure we'll find this about motherhood as well, people are like, that's ridiculous. Like you're clearly anti-science or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:58 I'm like, I just posted a lactation cookie. It's literally an excuse for me to eat cookies during postpartum. I've heard of lactation cookies. They sell them at like Erewhon and whatever. Exactly. And it has like oats, flax, coconut oil, and brewer's yeast. And all of those are supposed to help with milk production.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Great. And I'm like, make it a cookie. Make it a cookie. Exactly. Sounds delicious. That is a really cool series though. I love that idea. That's been fun. Like having food prepped and ready.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yeah. Because they say the best thing you could give a new mom is food that's ready to go. I'm like, so looking forward to that. Like definitely having some options available. But recently I had a friend ask like, what's something that I can do for you in postpartum? And he has always been like a very generous gift giver. And one of the ideas from my assistant actually was, why don't you have like a chef prepare her
Starting point is 00:47:54 a few days worth of meals? So I actually reached out to Taylor, your friend. And I was like, I know that you were doing this last year. I don't know if that's still an offering of yours to do like mommy meals. Did she say yes? She did. Which was so sweet. by the way, she loves you and she's 100% listening to this episode right now. We love you, Taylor. I love her so much. She has been part of my cookbook recipe testing team. So cool. And I'm like, I am one of those people that falls in love with everyone
Starting point is 00:48:18 that I work with. It's like, I should probably be better person for you to reach out to for that, by the way, because she's so thorough and she loves cooking and she She was the best possible person for you to reach out to for that by the way. I feel that. Because she's so thorough and she loves cooking and she like gives the best feedback I feel like. Such good feedback. My writer and he's like helping edit some recipes too. He said that the two testers we have, he was like, this is the dream team of testers.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Like I'm so impressed by them. He's been so, so impressed by Taylor. I'm like, I love her so much. I was following along on the journey and seeing all the recipes she was making. So excited for your cookbook. Wait, when does the cookbook come out? Not until March of 27,
Starting point is 00:48:52 which feels like a million years away. 27? I know. Traditional publishing, like it is a long haul, but. I've heard, we talked about that a little bit because I've always wanted to write a book and I was kind of like asking you some questions. That's so interesting. So not even next, you have to get through all of next year. All of next year, which I'm kind of grateful for because I will have by that point like an almost
Starting point is 00:49:12 two-year-old. Wow. I know it's crazy. That's crazy to think about. So we'll have like maybe a little bit terrible twos on the cookbook tour. Yeah, that's gonna be a journey for you. And with pregnancy nutrition, was there anything that you were hyper fixated on throughout at the beginning, cravings? Cravings are always like such a fun one to talk about. I feel like I had kind of boring cravings in the beginning. I really craved herb salads. No way.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Like so random. Oh my God, your body probably wanted the nutrients in the herbs or something No way. Like so random. Oh my God, your body probably wanted the nutrients in the herbs or something. It wanted herbs so bad. So there's this salad that I have on my blog. It's like an herby quinoa salad. I made that literally every day. No way. My poor assistant was probably so tired
Starting point is 00:50:00 of eating this salad. She's like, I'm done with the salad. But I was like, I'm like, Chelsea, we're having the salad again tonight. But- That's funny, because I'm like kind of turned off by salads right now. I am now too.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Third trimester, I don't want a vegetable. It's very annoying. But like first trimester, I wanted herb salads, berries and citrus. Healthy queen. Obsessed with oranges. Citrus is a big one for me. Like lemon, anything.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Obsessed. I was going through bags with oranges. Citrus is a big one for me. Oh my gosh. Like lemon, anything, obsessed. I was going through bags of oranges. Like I was so obsessed with oranges and orange juice. And one of my things I didn't want was like a flavored beverage, except for if it was orange juice. Yep. Like I wasn't drinking electrolytes anymore
Starting point is 00:50:38 because I just couldn't. I'm obsessed with orange juice too actually. And I never used to drink it. It's gotta be the vitamin C. Yes. Because I wasn't like a big juice drinker before. Yep. Like maybe on vacation Cabo would have like orange juice
Starting point is 00:50:48 that brunch. You know what's funny about orange juice? I feel like it had really bad PR for a while and everyone's like, oh my God, it's full of sugar. Why are we drinking it? And now it's having a resurgence. Yes. Because people are mixing like creatine
Starting point is 00:51:00 with their orange juice. And it's like considered ancestral now. Oh, we love a rebrand. Orange juice got a new PR team and it's going great. I'm so happy for them. I know, I know. They deserve better PR. We hopped on the bandwagon.
Starting point is 00:51:13 We did. Also, apple juice sounds really good to me right now. Oh, yeah. Like in the fall, I wanted like crisp apple juice. Yeah, just like something tart is really, really good. Yeah, but other like food fixations. I the book, Real Food for Pregnancy. Oh, I should look at that. That was a good book. It very much just solidified that the way that I was already eating was very
Starting point is 00:51:39 healthy for pregnancy. So I didn't really feel like I had to change much. So I didn't really feel like I had to change much. You know, I've always been like very conscientious of protein intake and trying to eat variety and trying to have a lot of like micronutrients from herbs and vegetables and fruits. So in a way it was like, oh, the things I have been doing are like good for building a little baby inside of you. So that was good. There were some specific things like I tried to incorporate some liver once a week into like a ground beef taco bowl
Starting point is 00:52:14 or something like that. So that you would mix it in the ground beef. Okay, my husband's dying for me to do the liver thing and I used to swallow a chunk of frozen liver every day. Impressive. Disgusting, no disgusting. So disgusting and I can to swallow a chunk of frozen liver every day. Impressive. Disgusting. No, disgusting. So disgusting. And I can still picture the taste of it. And I just, I don't know how to go about it. I was buying Force of Nature ancestral blend.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah, that helps. And then mixing it with ground beef. Okay. So it's like, I don't really know how much liver I'm getting. Just thinking about it, you know? Yeah. If I had come off of years of eating raw liver, then I would feel the same way. I had never gotten into that. Kyle got into it and I was like, babe, it's really hard for me to watch you choke this
Starting point is 00:52:55 down. It's clearly so unenjoyable. I really get upset when Greg does disgusting things because I'm like, you're really grossing me out and making my life really hard. It's seriously disgusting. You're making me nauseous. disgusting things because I'm like, you're really grossing me out and making my life really hard. Like seriously disgusting. He was eating sardines last night just out of a cat, a tin. And I was like, please like do something different with the sardines. Like he was just eating them whole with the head, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:14 I did that in like the second trimester. Suddenly sardines sounded really good to me. Well, that's so good for you. How were you eating the sardines? Shannon Richie actually turned to me on to their like boneless, skinless sardines, which boneless was a huge priority for me. Wait, what's the brand? I want to say it's Crown Prince, and they sell it at Costco. Okay. I think I know what you mean. I just ordered a ton of boneless whatever, sardines from Europe or something, and I'm supposed to be eating those. I actually found them to be very palatable, especially if we're comparing it
Starting point is 00:53:45 to liver. Okay. Yeah. Like so much better. I guess you could like mash it up and like, yeah, and like kind of make it like a little tuna salad-esque vibe. I was just eating them straight out of the can because I was like, these are actually kind of good. Your body must have been like, I need a sardine. Yeah. You cannot trust anything that's coming out of like my taste buds during pregnancy, which has been really interesting in developing a cookbook. Cause I'm like, okay, thank God I have like recipe testers. Cause like this tastes really good to me. And people are like, cut down on the herbs. My gosh.
Starting point is 00:54:20 The sardines, they have such good omegas. In them, they're apparently amazing. Have you seen the videos of little babies in their high chairs just downing sardines? No, I'm inspired though. I want to give my baby sardines. I mean, someone's going to give me shit for this. I don't care. At some point when the baby can eat solids, I want to put sardines because apparently it's really good for them.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I know my friend Rachel has been doing like liver and I'm not sure if she's been doing sardines, but it's really good for them. I know my friend Rachel has been doing like liver and I'm not sure if she's been doing sardines but her kid eats so well. I'm like, Rachel, you're doing a great job. Come feed my baby. I gotta go check that out because I actually love watching like baby nutrition. Oh, you're gonna like, she has, I think a whole highlight
Starting point is 00:54:59 on like what she's been feeding her baby ever since she introduced solids at six months. And I'm like, thank you for doing the Lord's work. It's so interesting. It's so interesting. Have you heard of Dr. Rhonda Patrick? Yes. Okay, obsessed with her.
Starting point is 00:55:11 She's amazing. I think she is a two-year-old, maybe a three-year-old now, and she's the one who inspired me to eat fish eggs. I've been eating fish eggs. That's right. When I can, when I can. Some days I'm like, it's not the day, I can't. But I think she feeds her child really well.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I would love to like see that menu. And I'm sure you're going, I mean, I can't wait to see what you feed your child. I'm really excited for that phase of motherhood, like starting to do solids and introduce little foods. And so exciting to think about. Olivia, thank you so much for coming on the show. This was such a pleasure.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I'm so glad I caught you before you gave birth and her water didn't break on the show. I know, unfortunately, I thought we were gonna have like a really fun moment. Like a really dramatic like. I'm going into labor. For social. I was laying in bed last night.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I was like, oh my God, what if Olivia gives birth on the show? Would be iconic. So honored to have you here. Can you tell everyone where they can find you online? Where can they get the eBooks, all the things, Substack? Yes, I am at Olivia at dot Adrience on Instagram, and then just at Olivia Adrience everywhere else.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Hardest to get an Instagram name. And then my Substack is called Extra Scoop. You can also just search Olivia Adrience on Substack. And it is surprisingly devoid of food content on Substack. I talk a lot about like the behind the scenes of building a content business and transitioning out of corporate America into working for myself. So a little bit of a different taste.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Everything is linked in my bio on Instagram. It's where you can find me. I love that and good luck. Thank you. When giving birth. Yes, so soon, hopefully. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you for joining us on the Pursuit of Wellness podcast. To support this show, please rate and review and share with your loved ones.
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