Pursuit of Wellness - Q&A: Parenthood Changed Everything… Here’s What We Didn’t Expect (Part 2 with My Husband)

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

In this Part 2 episode with my husband Greg, we get real about what actually happens after the baby arrives. The emotional shifts, the unexpected challenges, and the moments that completely reshape how we see life, marriage, and even our careers. We talk about what surprised us most about newborn life, how becoming parents impacted our relationship, and why the changes were way more mental and emotional than we ever expected. Greg opens up about when it finally “clicked” for him as a dad, and I share what it feels like to experience both the deepest joy and the most intense fear at the same time. We also get into: How parenthood changed our outlook on life and business The reality of decision-making as new parents The emotional weight of raising a child and wanting to do everything right Marriage dynamics after a baby Our thoughts on having more kids and growing our family The truth about building a business during different seasons of life Advice for anyone starting in content creation and why “cringe” is actually your advantage Dog training, routines, and managing a household with a newborn How we got through hard business seasons and what keeps us going This episode is honest, unfiltered, and a continuation of a conversation so many couples are navigating but not always talking about openly. If you’re a new parent, thinking about becoming one, or just curious about how life really changes, this one is for you. _____ Leave Me a Message -⁠ click here!⁠ For Mari’s Instagram⁠ click here!⁠ For Pursuit of Wellness Podcast’s Instagram⁠ click here!⁠ For Mari’s Newsletter⁠ click here!⁠ For Mari’s TikTok⁠ click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How do you feel about being a dad? I don't think that my actual lifestyle will change that much. How has being parents affected your outlook on your life and careers? It has changed everything. Most of the changes have been mental and emotional. I feel more joy than I ever knew was possible. At the same time, I am more afraid than I've ever been before. He is literally my heart outside my chest.

What surprised you about life with a newborn? Everything. Why doesn't he just quit smoking? I'm a highly disciplined person. I'm a huge goal go-go-getter. I smoke cigars. I drink tequila. I take care of my family. They're going to cancel you.

This is the Pursuit of Wellness Podcast, and I'm your host, Mari Lawellan. Hi, Greg. Yo, we're back, part two, baby. We're back for part two. Do you think that when we both wear a white tea, it looks like we're trying to match? No.

I feel like if we're sharing a Zoom call, which we were yesterday, I was like, oh, we're both wearing, it looks like we're both wearing. Yeah, that was a little interesting. I just feel like it looks cohesive. Okay. White tea is a white tea.

I wear a white tea like every day. Oh, white tea or black tea? I actually, I wear a uniclo shirt. I'm not even going to say this. I will. I don't give a fuck. I wear a $7 uniclo shirt every day and I throw it away. Or donate it.

I put it in a donate pile, to be honest, but I discard it. Yeah. I think Justin Bieber does that. Why would I not? When they get destroyed in the wash, I wear a fresh tea every day. So when I pack a suitcase, I just put like, you know, however many days I'm going, that many new t-shirts into the bag. It's not my favorite thing that you do.

And then our house manager, whoever it is. just puts it in a donation pile. It's not my favorite thing that you do. I mean, honestly, most people, let's say they buy a $50 shirt and they wear it 10 times. They're basically doing the same thing. Yeah. It's a little wasteful. Not if it's donated.

Okay. Where did you guys get married? Cabo St. Lucas. Chalano Bay. Yeah, a hotel called Cheleno Bay or a resort. It was honestly beautiful because we had a very small guest list. It was a COVID wedding. And we decided to do it in Cabo.

because... Right after COVID, but yeah. We put our wedding on hold. It was still a mask error, though. No? No. I mean, we had vaccine cards and everything. It was like just about done, though.

Okay, okay. So, but I guess maybe while planning it, we didn't know what the hell was going on. 2021. Okay. So it was a Cabo wedding. And what was really cool about is, like, I feel like one of the fundamental issues with weddings is that they are just for a few hours at one moment. And there's all these people that you need to socialize with and have a fun memory with. And I get the negatives to having a destination wedding, but how we planned this, it was a very

intimate group that we basically just, for the most part, supported everybody going on a large vacation together for three days. And that in itself feels like the wedding to me in my memory. Of course, with the peak being the ceremony itself. But yeah, we were married in Cabo for like, it was like a two-night or three-night family trip with just our very closest friends. It was really fun. And family, obviously.

Yeah, very closest friends and family. Yeah. What, 25 people guest list? Oh, my God. It's crazy. It's nothing. It's funny because I would do it so differently now, but it was also just... Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah.

It was perfect. Yeah. I want to have another wedding, though. Yeah, we'll do something at 10 years. I think that's fun. Yeah. Wait, what's this year? Married 2021.

This is our five year this December. Yeah, but if you're just something. look it up, it's still like the wood wedding. Yeah, but five years is pretty cool. I know, but it doesn't really get cool until you're at like 40. Then it's like diamond. I think we should go back to Chileo with Kai. Yeah. We're going to Kaaba for your birthday.

Yeah, just for a couple days. Does he smoke cigars in front of the baby? Why doesn't he just quit smoking? No, I don't smoke cigars anywhere near the baby. Obviously, do not smoke cigars anywhere near pregnant Mari or breastfeeding Mari. And yeah, I actually don't know if there's any negatives to smoking cigars to your health. I have not seen one actual study to tell me that there is an issue with nicotine or smoking

cigars as long as you take care of your oral hygiene. My oral hygiene is top tier. I think nicotine is good for anti-dimension and anti-amisia. Sorry, not amnesia. Alzheimer's. So I think the cognitive neuro benefits are fucking awesome. And I have one vice. I have two.

I don't know. I'm a highly disciplined person. I'm a huge goal go-getter. I smoke cigars. I drink tequila. I take care of my family. So, I don't know. Fuck with me. No, if someone's going to tell me to not smoke cigars, it's like, you got to be fucking kidding me, dude.

That's like your real housewives intro. Yeah, and you want to know what else? If you want to be pissed off, I don't really eat vegetables. Oh my God. I haven't been sick in three years. They're going to cancel you. You know the real housewives intro is where they're like, I have a mansion, Anna Chihuahua. What the fuck? Like, if they come on the screen and there's like an intro and they say like a little tagline,

that was you. That modern media is incredible. You were like, I'm a driven person. What did you say? No, I just like get really fired up when people are like, why do you supposed to go? What's the issue? Have JJ clip that whole thing. No, I'm dead serious.

And like do like a like Greg Lavecchio. Like that's your intro. That should be like pinned on your page. That was just rogue. I could do a better one, but. No. Yeah. That's the thing you couldn't though.

I know. That's what I'm always trying to tell you. You couldn't because that was just you. Yeah. You're insane. This is why Kai's insane. Like I'm wondering why my child's like. a gorilla and it's because of you.

Anyway. Sure. How has being parents affected your outlook on your life and careers? Congrats. It's changed everything. By the way, clip the podcast. You came on before I was pregnant. He's not going to change anything.

I go, someone asks, how do you think a baby's going to change your life? And you said, I don't think it will. How do you feel about being a dad? I don't think that my actual lifestyle will change that much. Famous last words, dude. Famous last words. Someone literally brought it up in the Q&A. Most of the changes have been mental and emotional. I'll speak for myself. It's not like I had an incredibly active social life or tons of things that I was physically doing that I am no longer doing. I have constrained them into shorter time windows and have been more disciplined about like where I put them

my day. So like if I'm going to be selfish and go work out for an hour, I'd do it before Mari and Kai wake up. But I already worked out at 5.30 in the morning. Like I already had what I thought was a tremendous amount of responsibility. Right. We have 100 employees, whatever it may be. But so, and I know how to be responsible and like deploy responsibility to things around me. So, but this has obviously just been on an emotional level. So. So. So. So. But this has obviously just been on an emotional level. so much greater than anything I've experienced before. Yeah.

And I, and, and, and, you know, if I'm being, like, totally transparent, I, like,

had an inkling of that when he was first born and, like, what this would mean. And, like, this, this, this,

but I didn't really have, like, a full, like, lion king moment, like, holding him in front of the sunset until probably seven to eight weeks old. Okay.

Of, like, oh, this is, this is, like, this is really fucking real. And this is, Probably because we were still in like paternity leave mode and like things were very different. We hadn't socialized at all. Like it was just like keep this baby clean.

Alive. And like help Mari feed him. And so. For me it was the second he came out. Of course. Of course. For me, I think for the woman because you quite literally are carrying them and feeling them in you. You have this like crazy bond.

And that's why I panicked when I was pregnant. And I was like, oh my God, like, we got to get ready. Like, remember I was kind of freaking out. I had more, like, fear around him. Like, this morning I gave him a hard hug. Like, he's tough now. Like, I can, like, squeeze him goodbye. And, like, I can tell he, like, knows that dad is giving him a hard hug.

I was afraid to, like, lift his arm for the first four weeks and put it into the sleeve of a pajamas. Like, I was like, is his rotator cuff? going to pop out of his shoulder? Like, I truly, I had never, first of all, rewind. I had never held a baby before Kai. You wouldn't even look at them. No, I still don't give a fuck about anyone's baby. I care about my baby.

But like, I don't have any interest in holding someone else's baby. I don't, I mean, maybe, you know, like, I'm the godfather to Leo. Did you hold Estella? Yeah, I've held Estella. I think, I haven't really, I didn't have any grasp on what it could potentially mean. and I still know exactly what it means until probably, you know, seven, eight weeks in. Yeah. I think that's normal for dads, honestly.

I think, like, the fear around them is normal. Yeah. The second he came out, I was like, oh, I don't give a freak about anything else. Yeah. So going back to the actual question, my actual, like, the biggest change has just been emotional. For me, my outlook on life, I think every, like, the small things have become. so much more important and like everything feels so much deeper to me and I like really evaluate things differently like the environment like for example I did bath time and bedtime

with him last night and I was like sometimes it's challenging to do alone because you went out for dinner yeah first of all Murray does a does bad time every night but I wasn't home last night you need an extra set of hands like the girls get it and I was like I don't want to be stressed and miserable as I'm doing this and not that I ever am it It's just like, I don't want him to see that I'm like stressed. So I played Justin Bieber and had the best time with him. And we were like dancing and having fun. And I was like, this is what I want his childhood to be.

That's dope. And it in turn enhances my life. You know, like seeing him happy and us having a good time together is just like, like I feel more joy than I ever knew was possible. At the same time, I am more afraid of life than I've ever been before because I, know one day he will fall and get hurt or I can't control everything. And that is really scary. Like, he is literally my heart outside my chest. The concept of like anything bad ever happening to him is like, makes me sick. So that's my outlook on life. Do you get what I'm saying?

I get what you're saying? The moms are probably nodding like they get it. Was training Arnold pre-Kai worth it? And what was the goal? Yeah. So for Conduct, Arnold is Mara's dog that I have had to adopt and take the response. That's actually the biggest change in my life. So

I needed a dog that was trained. Excuse me. This was my decision. So I sent him to training. I run him every morning because for this dog to be remotely in a a civil manner requires him to go sprint three miles every single morning.

He's a sweetie. And so I needed a dog that could run off leash with me. And so that has been an absolute game changer. Like having some proper training, knowing how to use negative and positive feedback loops to enhance his. You know, the thing is, dog training is not going to change your dog's personality. Right. So if you have a dog that is a wild, high energy dog. A working breed.

A working breed, you're not going to train a dog into being a calm, you know, apartment dog. I think that's a huge misconception people have with dog training, that it will give, they will just be handed back a new dog and they have to just continue with their life as is. It's, it's, you're taking on a responsibility. Yeah. The reason we decided to get Arnold trained is he needed it. He's a working breed dog. He's very intelligent. And he's the type of dog that wakes up every day and needs a job to do.

And the goal was not to change Arnold. It was to learn how to control him in, not control him, how to like, yeah, essentially control his behaviors when we needed to. So if the baby's on the floor or... If I wanted to run him, it could be off leash. Sure. But it wasn't just for you. It was for the family. Well, I have taken the brunt of like his routines.

When Arnold first got trained and he came home, I was fully responsible for his training for the three. three months that I was like that. No, you did this. It's fucking awesome. He's great. Right. So we taught him place. Place is probably the biggest thing we taught him. Because it tells him to go somewhere. So I even use that when I'm working out and he's in the gym and he's in the way. Oh, that's awesome.

I have him place on one of our cubes and it gets him out of the way. He's not an aggressive dog, but he is very food focused. So like, I think it's really important to have training to get him away from food, but it's also great to motivate him. Yeah. I'm really glad we did it. No, I had him around the chickens last night. Yeah. That was crazy.

Yeah. And like if he's getting too close to Kai and I say down, sit, like he will get away. Yeah. And he's been great around Kai. I mean, my biggest thing with the babies and the dogs is like I am not the type of person to like present my baby to the dogs. Like whenever I see people doing that, like when they come home and they like show the dogs the baby and they're like, oh, don't you love your sister? Like, no, no, no. Yeah.

That's my baby. Not yours. We've also chosen to not have like purebred golden retrievers or French bulldogs. True. Like we have like a, you know, some more, like dogs that require land and want to go do things. And like they're a little more aggressive. I don't think anyone should be presenting their baby. It's like not, it's not the right protocol to follow because you're essentially saying like this baby is as much yours as it is mine.

Yeah. And I think having respect and like the dogs just coexisting with the baby is the goal. You don't want your dogs to be obsessed with like licking your baby. Like something could have. happen like that, even if you have a golden retriever. So that's my opinion. Yeah, I'm fairly sure Arnold eats like an entire dead squirrel every day, so he should not like, Kai. Great. What surprised you about life with a newborn? Surprise me? Everything. Yeah, fucking everything. I didn't know what we were getting into. I just knew

that, I just knew that I could lead with love. And so that seemed accurate. I can leave with love. but you know there's a lot of like binary decisions that you will need to make for the child right whether it's what school you send him to at some point or who you allow around him or what germs you allow around him or the lifestyle that you try to lead with him and what you prioritize around his routine and why and a lot of them are like binary or black and white decisions that you need to make and it is very hard to I'm just going to go with my gut on this one Like you would maybe in a lot of your normal life decisions, but around him it feels, you know, very powerful. So it's tough to treat these decisions binary when there's pros and cons of each decision.

Yeah. The decision making is really actually quite challenging because you just want to do the best. And it's tough because sometimes you have to make decisions that aren't easy for the baby, like the tongue tie revision. Sure. We had an optional medical procedure that we decided to move forward with. Which was definitely the right decision. Oh, he sticks his tongue out on me now. No, it was huge.

I mean, his tongue was stuck to the bottom of his mouth. He would have had to do it at some point. Which can cause issues eating solids and with speech. And it's much better to do it when they're little, but it was really hard to see him in pain. Yeah. I mean, I, any time, Kai is in any sort of pain or discomfort, like, I'm also crying every time. Like, I would rather be stabbed in the face than watch him in pain. ever.

What makes Greg most proud of Mari being a new mom? It has been, you know, the simplest way I can explain is Marry just like holding down the fort more than I could have imagined somebody in our life doing that on this level, meaning like she has just taken over our household. So she has, or just whatever environment our family is in. So whether we're traveling or we're in our home in Texas, you have made sure that like the environment around Kai, like whatever radius you deem necessary is, is an environment that you are making sure checks the boxes of the, you know, your values of what's the perfect environment for him. And that's 24-7. And so there's no checking out.

And so whether he wakes up in the middle of the night or at 5 a.m. Or, you know, it's in the middle of dinner. like there's a lot of nights where we just eat dinner standing up. And these are things that like we would have never allowed to disrupt our previous values six months ago before we was born. But basically we've just like entered this whole chapter with a blank slate and you've done it you've done it with with no question. And it's been really impressive to watch. Thank you. Appreciate that.

What kept you both going in bad business times? I don't think we ever viewed them as bad business times. I would say, I would say a lot of the time, first of all, bad, bad times are inevitable. And good times go, come and go and they're all relative to the things that have happened to you previously or what your goals may be. But I think that they are inevitable and they too shall pass. But you, what kept us going? Was that the question? Yeah.

You have to go through them. So you have no choice but to keep going through them. If you do not go through them, you will not, they will beat you. Right. So when there is a bad time in your life or in your business, the only choice is through. It is not sitting down. So I would say, you know, whatever that means for the, for the challenge that you're going through, action is the only answer.

I also think if you view business as a game a little bit and like gamify the whole thing, the bad times are sort of inevitable. So it's like, oh, cool, it's happening. I knew this was going to happen. Like, let's maneuver through it. And then we can get to the next level. Yeah. Yeah. It's a less of a surprise.

What would be the world of like you're watching your life through a third party lens? Like not like disassociation. Birds eye view. Yeah. Like you need to try to watch your life in a bird. eye lens and like okay when I'm 70 I will tell this story on my rocking chair and how how will that look when I'm 70 years old reflecting on this moment and what are the possible outcomes and how can I make sure I can move towards one of those outcomes yeah or the outcomes that I want to come out of this

and no success feels good if you didn't have to work hard for it if everything's just handed to you it feels like it's not real I think like if bloom was truly an overnight success and we didn't have immense challenges and hard work along the way. I don't think it would be as satisfying. I think one of the recipes for a depressing life is winning the lottery. Yeah. This is why I don't want help on Sundays. I feel the same way about days with the baby. Do we want more kids? Yeah. You know, I think having more kids is what's best for Kai, which is generally like where I go back for what is the right decision. I think having having siblings for Kai is what's right for Kai.

If I had, if I, if we're, you know, blessed to go that direction. We have two more babies in frozen embryos. Not in our kitchen freezer, but somewhere in a freezer. And well, I believe our plan is to, in the coming years, we don't feel very rushed to implant. 2028. To insert implant one of those embryos. Yeah, I'm waiting mentally to feel like I'm even close to ready to do that again, honestly. Yeah, no rush.

We're soaking this up right now. Yeah. But yeah, grow the tribe. 2028. Any tips for people starting to get into the content creation social media space? Yeah, it cringes your friend. It's super fucking weird. Cringes your friend?

Yeah, like you're going to feel so lame. Like, I feel so lame still doing it. Mari didn't. Mari literally just, she's a one take wonder. Any video you see on my Instagram took me 20 fucking ticks. I stutter. I lose my train of thought. I am not well spoken naturally.

Like, it is, it is not natural for 99% of us. And you're going to be so embarrassed about like your OG friends or your family members seeing the content or in our case. Like, I fucking like billionaire, we have billionaire investors who like have invested in bloom and I'm out on my fucking Instagram. Instagram, like working out and, like, showing lame shit. And I can't even imagine what they're thinking. I have fucking Walmart watching my shit, right? Like, people at Walmart who have, like, huge power over our business. And I'm out here, like, making content about who Greg is.

It's super cringe and it's scary. But I really think one of the best things you can do in 2026 to increase your chance of luck. Because I think a lot of people say, like, oh, that person just got lucky. Well, what can you do to increase your chances of being lucky? I think one of the easiest things you can do is create content. Like opportunities will present themselves. You'll open doors that you've never been able to open that you would have never opened otherwise just by somebody random seeing that content and reaching out to you. Agreed.

Can us affiliates get a Bloom HQ tour and meet you both in person? Yeah. If you're an affiliate of Bloom, our TikTok shop operation has been completely out of control. It's been such a pleasure being able to have some of these wins and like directly share them with our affiliate community. If you join our affiliate community, you will join Discord. You have a lot of access to Discord video calls with myself every Monday. I speak directly to our affiliates at least once a week. And I will have Mari on future video calls with our Discord community.

And our top four affiliates, this for our new SCU releasing for the summer, we'll get Blue Mini Fridges. Like we have tons of prizes like that. So, yeah, if you wanted to join our TikTok shop affiliate community, there are really cool prizes like that. And sometimes I get a little hyper on the Discord calls and I increase the prizes quite a bit. To what? Cash money, baby. Oh, okay.

Yeah, all types of things. It's not an auction. Someone asked how you supported me during my labor. You want me to answer? He played EDM music. You were the DJ. I think you really locked in when I was pushing. That was kind of when you came to life.

Okay. Don't you think? Yeah. You were like at my shoulder like yelling at me. Yeah, of course. That's where we thrive. Yeah, it was like an OG leg press set. Because I was pushing for like an hour maybe too.

I think more, yeah. But before that I was kind of just like telling you to stop talking, I think. Maybe. During my contractions. Because you kept trying to talk to me and I was like, I can't talk. I can't respond to you. Like, we're not talking right now. So do you want Uber Eats or?

Yeah, you're like, I'm just going to go take this call. And I was like, I, please stop. But no, Greg was super supportive. And I was like panicking about the C-section. And you were like really talking me through that. I mean, you were next to me the whole time. Of course. By the way, everyone got mad because I said that they took my organs out and put them on the table.

They said that doesn't happen. Sometimes we're drastic in our explanations of things. Maybe. I feel that like I thought you saw. It was pretty fucking crazy, guys. You know, the incision may only be like, first of all, that would be impossible. The incision on Mari's lower abdomen is five inches. No organs were necessarily pulled out.

But you are cutting through the entire, you know, film that is holding your organs in. So the vantage point is quite. Was it like the pit? Yeah, I feel like I was watching some ER type show. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's crazy. It was like, you know, 30 people in the room.

It's crazy. Yeah. I was freaking. Yeah. I had a speaker next to my head. I was also just exhausted. Yeah. That was the most physically a taxing day of my life, obviously.

I had been throwing up and violently shaking for, what did I eat at some point? I think you were having some juice. They didn't want you to eat just in case you went to a C-section. No, when we went into the recovery room in like 3 a.m. Did I eat? nothing memorable Did I have a protein bar maybe Maybe I had a protein bar

Knowing me I had a raw bar Like We used that she keeps me alive Screaming and no other babies In the room We're crying Oh my god We were just saying

How he's so loud now Yeah he's been loud And Ali was like You said that in a previous episode He came out loud He was the loud He was the loudest in the hospital I mean

Lungs pumping Lungs pumping Yeah Any other insights From becoming a new day that you want to share. We have some fun summer plans with Kai.

Oh, guys, I'm getting a crazy laser done. Should I tell them about my laser? Yeah. I am finally addressing my acne scars, which I've wanted to do for such a long time since clearing up my acne from H. Pylori. I'm going to Dr. Cameron Chester, who came on the show maybe two years ago.

He's a holistic plastic surgeon. And I am going under and getting full, I think I'm getting CO2. I think I'm getting a cocktail of lasers, and we're filling in the ice pick scarring that I have on my cheeks. It's going to be pretty extreme. I'm going to look quite crazy. Greg is coming with me. Thank you, Greg, for supporting me on this journey.

We're going to Washington and Idaho. We're going to like the state. Oh, I was confused by that on the county. I know. I think we're staying in Idaho and the procedures in Washington. This seems necessary. Spokane, Washington. Cocaine, Washington.

Spokaney, Washington. And cordalane, Idaho. And yeah, I'm getting it done. Nice. That's all you have to say. You're not excited about my new face. I mean, I know you've been wanting to do it since I've met you. Yeah, I have.

I mean, I don't even think you've gotten like another proper cosmetic procedure that you've gone under for? Like, no. Just my egg retrieval. That's not cosmetic. Yeah. Back. Yeah. I've done one other laser for, it was called Avi Clear and it didn't do one thing. Really?

And it was the most painful experience of my whole life. Yeah, I don't know anything about that whole laser world. It is really excruciating. Like, lasers hurt. Yeah, it doesn't just burn off the top layer of your skin. Yep. Yeah, sounds good. Yep, yep, yep.

No, honestly, I'm just kind of butt hurt about it because I was like, oh, great, we're going. Like, what are you going to, like, let me get some shit. Let me get a new nose. Let me get some new, a whole new face. I'm making content these days. I'm always like, no, you're just coming to hang out with me. Well, I'm getting put under. I'm kidding.

And you're allowed to do the recovery stuff. So I'll just go and recover as if I had surgery Yeah Okay Well maybe Dr. Chesat will look at you and like And well I feel like these types of doctors are like Brutal I think if they look at you they'll tell you what the fuck's not good looking about you

He's pretty He's quite conservative Yeah Because when I sat with him I was like Tell me what you would do Yeah And he was like We don't want to mess anything up

Yeah please don't Yeah he's pretty conservative No but dude all these people that are He does an amazing facelift Like you got a look at his page Yeah these facelifts are, you couldn't even tell that this person's had surgery because he's so, like, precise.

That's so cool. I mean, if you're in the market for a facelift and you're listening, go check out Dr. Cameron Chester. He is top notch. That's awesome. And he has me following this, like, crazy protocol before the procedure, like, no drinking, no supplements. Crazy.

Well, you know. Yeah, no, yeah. Like, it's very... Oh, he's making sure you're primed for a healthy procedure. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's so cool that you, like, there's so many people. people from the show that you have actually used for their services.

No, it's crazy. Which I would imagine that's rare for a podcast. Branch Basics. Also, great name. What? Cameron Chestnut. I know. Jeez.

I know. Cool guy. Well, thank you for joining us. Thank you. I'm going back to work. No, thanks for having me, guys. This is great. Bye.

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