Pursuit of Wellness - Working In Hollywood, Binge Eating, Fat Camp & Learning To Love Yourself with My Assistant Fiona Attix Pt. 1
Episode Date: January 30, 2023Ep. #5 Today we are joined by the fabulous Fiona Attix. My executive assistant and best friend. I get so many questions about Fi and our relationship, so we decided to hop on the microphone and spill ...the tea. Fi fills us in on her move to LA, working with a celebrity, and her self love journey. I think many of you will relate to her body image struggles. She has a ton of advice when it comes to building your dream life. Enjoy!  For Mari’s Instagram click here!  For Fi’s Instagram click here!  To shop Bloom Nutrition greens click here!  To download Mari’s workout plan & recipes click here! 2023 Goal templates click here!   Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hi guys, it's Mari and you're listening to The Pursuit of Wellness.
Hi, PAL community. Before we hop into this episode with Fi, my assistant and best friend,
I wanted to say a huge thank you to all of you for all of the support and hype
around the show thus far. We hit the top 50 on the Apple top shows in the first week and I could not
be more grateful. I am enjoying this process so much and it makes me so happy to see you guys are
gaining so much value from the episodes, seeing your story tags, your reviews, your responses,
your comments makes me so happy. It feels like we're in a deep conversation together. The feedback
I'm getting is so much more in depth than I'm used to getting and I just feel way more connected
with you guys than usual. So the fact that you guys are following, rating and reviewing
means so much. It allows me to see what
you guys like and what you want more of. I appreciate it so much. With that said, let's hop
into this conversation with Fi. I wanted to add a little trigger warning here because we do discuss
eating disorders and other body image topics. So I wanted to give you guys a heads up. With that
said, it is a very in-depth episode. You really get to know Fi on a much deeper level. Obviously, we are not doctors or medical professionals,
but we do have a lot of insight and personal experience. So I hope you enjoy this one.
Let's do it. Hey, friends. My name's Olivia Perez, and I'm an entrepreneur, journalist,
and the host of the Friend of a Friend podcast. Every Monday, I meet with some of today's youngest
and brightest entrepreneurs to make space to tell their stories and shine a light on who I believe to be the next
generation of luminaries. I'll interview up-and-comers and game changers from brand builders
to personalities, activists, artists, and thought leaders from around the world. Each episode lets
you be a fly on the wall during one of the greatest pep talks, like a conversation between
you and a friend or a friend of a friend. See you there.
Guys, how do I even intro today's guest? She is extremely special to me and I've probably spent more hours with this person in the last two years than I have with anyone else in my life,
maybe even my husband. My once assistant and now manager slash executive assistant. We're still figuring that out.
Fee Addicts is a superhero in my eyes.
I have never met someone with such positive energy, fierce...
I'm going to cry.
Yeah, wait, stop.
Okay, let me...
Sorry, let's bring it back.
I have a tear in my eye.
Fierce loyalty and strong work ethic.
We've taken on the world together and i'm so excited to have
a girl chat today on the mic the welcome to the pursuit of wellness thanks for having me
that's so nice get ready for your wedding speech it's gonna be iconic oh my god that was a lot i
know usually i'm just sitting over there in the chair so it's so nice to be i know right here with
you we've been waiting for this and i think also the listeners are gonna die they have been wanting you to get
on the mic and spill all the tea for a while I think this is gonna be a two-part interview because
we have a lot to cover we're gonna get into all the piping hot tea of our relationship how we met
and what that's like but first I actually just want to talk about
you because this is all about you amazing I asked guys she's really nervous even though we sit like
this all day every day she's nervous it's because of the setup yeah I ask all my guests if an uber
driver were to ask you what you do what would you you say? Oh. And you're really nice to Uber drivers.
I do.
I love it.
I'm like, I'm the person that gets in and talks and immediately starts like asking them
their whole life story.
We're best friends by the end of the ride.
What would I tell them?
I feel like I struggle with that too because I don't really know how to describe what I do.
I think generally I'm like, oh, I assist, you know, the founder or owner of like a nutrition company or like or I'll say I
you know assist someone that works in the wellness space as an influencer but usually they kind of
look at you so I'm like it's not like that she's like really successful and cool and great and it's
not like that even me when someone says influencer I'm like oh yeah but I'm usually like she like
owns supplement companies and then usually they're like, oh, really? Like, what's it called?
And they always ask, like, especially male Uber drivers always ask me, like, throw them
slang and bloom left and right.
I'm like, you should try it.
Bloomnew.com.
Stick packs.
We've got our little bloom cups here on the table today.
How cute are these?
The cutest.
The cutest from New York.
So you've lived in L.A. for just over five years now, and you've really experienced the
ins and outs of Hollywood.
And I want to get into that.
But first, conversely, you were raised in Maryland.
Yes.
Very different.
Very different.
How were you raised and what was your childhood like?
So, yes, I am from like right outside DC in like the suburbs of Maryland called Gaithersburg,
technically.
Very small little town, but like I would describe it as like kind of like the white
picket fence suburbs. I grew up in this neighborhood called the Kentlands. And like
when I tell you it was this bubble that like growing up, I never thought I was going to leave.
My dad used to like remind me, he'd be like, you were like, I'm going to live here forever and like
never leave. And I thought it was like the best thing in the world. Growing up, it was awesome.
I really did have a good childhood. Very lucky like where I grew up. But my parents did
divorce when I was like eight or nine. And I think that definitely had an effect on my childhood and
probably carried with me a lot more than I thought it would have. Especially like I think Mari and I
both have been over the last couple of years really focusing on our past. And like Mari does a lot of
like inner child work and stuff. And I think as I've reflected on it more you know I know tons of people's parents are divorced your
parents are divorced you know it's very common nowadays but it affects everyone very differently
so I grew up with divorced parents but luckily they towards the end got along a little better
so that was nice my mom's still back in Maryland with my stepdad Howard and my brother and dad
live up in Wisconsin and they
actually just visited me for the first time out here so that was really nice to kind of show them
my LA life I think they've always you know maybe not understood it completely but it was I was
really proud to show it to them and they were really proud of me so what was the family dynamic
like while you were growing up before they divorced or during it to be honest I don't really remember
too much of my parents together I think I was like seven or eight when they divorced me. When
you're young, like I remember blips, but not some like vacations here and there. But I think
something kind of as traumatizing as that you remember more of the bad things. Yeah. Which
stinks. But I split time between both parents. I know like everyone's kind of situation is
different, but I did like week on week off, which I did that for years. And I would pack like duffels every week and bring them back and forth
between my mom's and my dad's house. And then when I hit like 13 or 14, I think I got to pick
if I wanted to stay at one house. And I was getting older and it was like, I was, you know,
I was like a teenage girl. I was carrying like every pair of jeans I had back and forth. Cause
I'm like, I don't know what I want to wear this week. And like all my textbooks and then like even into high school, I was a cheerleader. And so I had all
these uniforms. It sounds so silly, but like I had to bring duffels back and forth and then I'd forget
something and have to go back. It was just like a big pain in the butt. So I finally got to the age
where I was like, look, I think it makes sense if I stay with mom. You made that decision. I did,
which at the time I think it was kind of just like I went to
my mom's one week and just like never went back to my dad's full time. Growing up, my dad worked
kind of remotely and worked from home. So he really raised us in the house. And my mom was off
working like a corporate position every day. And so I think he felt a little like I had raised you
and then you went and lived with her. But it was so different in my head. And I was a teenage girl.
Like, I'm going to go live with my mom.
You know what I mean?
And my brother lived with my dad.
And so, yeah, we were pretty much split up like that.
I'm so close with my dad.
I actually FaceTimed him this morning on my way home from the gym.
It was his birthday yesterday.
And I forgot just because I know I'm such a bad daughter.
I sent him a gift.
But it was like, did we not have the craziest day yesterday?
Yeah.
I look at my calendar.
I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I called him right away this morning. I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm a terrible daughter. He was like we did we not have the craziest day yesterday yeah yeah I look at my calendar I'm like oh my god like I I called him right away this morning I was like I'm so sorry
I'm a terrible daughter he's like it's okay I know you're busy but it's interesting because you are
so close with your mom now like you and your mom give me Gilmore Girls vibes to the max like for
anyone listening Fee's mom is like Fee in a few years time like she's blonde bubbly
chatty
positive
it's like you want
X Games mode
in a way
oh yeah
I will never be
quite like Kathy
but like she is a
great goal to
go after
I think definitely
as I got older
and when I started
living with her full time
like we just
just in general
my dad and my brother
are so similar
they're like very artistic
they love music
I feel like they definitely are
more like passion driven and like if it doesn't interest them they won't even bother but my mom
and I are kind of like I don't know we just we like get the work done we work our asses off and
like not that my dad and my brother don't but we're just very different my mom and I like really
into like health and fitness and we just were so different growing up it like kind of blows my mind
that we I'm me and my brother are related,
but it's almost like it's split off.
So it worked out.
It was a good split.
But yeah, my mom and I are super close now.
I didn't actually have this planned as a question,
but I do want to talk about your camp experiences
because you have been to every camp that you can think of.
Because I didn't grow up going to camp.
And in the UK, you don't do summer camp.
But you've gone to some very interesting camps.
Can you tell us?
I did.
So I feel like maybe it's like an East Coaster thing.
Growing up, like as soon as you hit like 13,
your parents send you away to summer camp for the summer.
You're like, okay.
I went to like horse camp one summer.
Super traumatizing, you guys.
Highly do not recommend.
Well, every other girl there was like road horses
and my parents were just like oh let's just send her to horse camp it was really scary I almost
got thrown off the horse Mari now is like into horses and I'm really trying to like
mend my relationship with them but they do scare me I'm not gonna lie they're huge you get given
a crazy horse I did his name was William he was fighting other horses in the field every time I
tried to go to his little stable to clean his hooves,
he'd be kicking the back of the door.
And they're like, okay, go in and pick his leg up.
I was like, me?
I was like this big?
I was like nine years old.
I was like, no.
So yeah, that was a little traumatizing.
And then I know which camp you're specifically probably talking about.
No, I was talking about both.
Oh, okay.
So I went to a lot of different camps. I also went to a dance camp. The summer, I think it was going,
it was either going into seventh grade or eighth grade. I cannot remember, but I went to a weight
loss camp up in the Poconos. It was called like Camp Pocono Trails, I'm pretty sure. It was called
like weight image camp, but the summer I was there there MTV was actually there filming fat camp that's
literally what they called it it was literally called like MTV fat camp can you believe they
got away with that by the way oh if you did that now early 2000s like they they didn't care and
I remember like seeing cameras were all around the camp constantly and like I wasn't old enough
to technically be on it so maybe I was like 12 I think you had to be like a little bit older.
And I remember, do you remember like those yarn woven braided bracelets growing up
that you'd get at like the beach?
Yes.
If you were like on the show, you'd have one of those.
So like all the older kids would like walk around with like flexo bracelets.
And I remember being like, I want a bracelet.
You wanted to be on the show.
I wanted to be on the show.
Like certain clips, I did see myself in the background of, like, the talent show day and stuff.
So there was no, like,
concern, like,
other kids will see me
on the fat cam show?
I think at that age,
I just, like,
I think I thought
it was, like, kind of cool.
Yeah.
And I didn't really even,
I don't know,
I don't think I thought
about it that deeply.
Also, so when I went
to that camp,
you know,
my whole family
has kind of struggled
with their weight
at some point in their life.
My mom was a lot heavier in high school.
And, like, now she's, like, super fit and stuff.
But I think it's kind of because of that past.
My parents had sent my brother the previous summer.
And I watched, like, the videotape about the camp.
And they had banana boating.
And I had never done banana boating.
Do you know what banana boating is?
You're in a big banana.
You, like, sit on this long thing that looks like a banana and they pull you. You wanted to do that? And I saw that and I was like, I want to go to that camp
because of the banana voting. Little did I know it would cause me trauma.
The camp or the banana voting? The camp and the banana voting. I got hurt. Yeah, whatever. That's
another story. But so I went to this camp. Did you know it was weight loss camp?
Yes. But like, I don't think I really knew to the extent and the camp was amazing. Like it truly was. And I made great friends there. And I was never super overweight. But I was definitely like when
I was younger, I definitely had a little pudge. I kind of looked like Little Miss Sunshine.
My stepsister said when she met me, you know, that picture of her like looking at herself with
the glasses and the belly
in the one piece?
Like that was me.
I had a cute little belly going on.
We love that.
A lot of kids did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's like super normal.
And so I went to this camp.
I called it like the summer that I kind of like butterflied.
It was like me coming out.
I got back to school and I had gotten contact.
So I didn't have glasses anymore.
I think I like got highlights in my hair.
I went to camp for three weeks, I think.
You could go all summer.
My parents sent me for three weeks.
I lost, I think, like 15 pounds in three weeks.
Yes.
Wow.
Which was crazy.
And like, I can't even talk, like, I can't believe I'm talking about it.
Like, they would weigh you every week.
You would get in the line and you would go to like, I forget what they called it.
There was a term for it, like weigh in or something.
I don't know. Like, they would literally weigh you in front of like, I forget what they called it. There was a term for it, like weigh in or something. I don't know.
Like they would literally weigh you in front of like everyone.
This is crazy.
They cannot still be doing this, right?
I think they still have the camp.
I'm sure they've probably changed the format of it.
But this actually is a reason that we'll go into this further.
I think an eating disorder type thing that I learned there,
the way they measured if you hit maintenance
was if you were five foot,
that was 100 pounds, right? And then every inch of your height after that, you would add five pounds.
So I was five, five and a half, I think at the time. So my maintenance weight was 125,
which maintenance meant they'd give you another bracelet and you could go back for seconds at food.
Stop.
Explaining the sunset.
Hold on. I'm like trying to calculate mine now.
That's weird.
I know.
So as I've gotten older, I think in the back of my head, I always was like, okay, I'm like
5'8", 5'9".
That's 145, 150.
That is like so light for me.
I don't think I will.
I will never see.
I was that much in middle school.
How tall are you now?
Like almost 5'9".
Yeah, I'm 5'10".
And I've never seen the 140s way
heavier yeah that's like crazy but so for a long time I chased this number because I think that's
just like at 13 I was like okay that's like how you calculate what you should weigh oh my god
that's so messed up it really and that doesn't account for muscle that doesn't account for
activity level it was like and the camp was so, like I said,
it was a blessing because I think that summer I went back to school
and like finally felt more confident, especially like around boys.
Like I think I had always kind of been like the shy,
like quiet friend that like didn't, I don't know.
I remember multiple instances in school
where boys would just like not be nice to me.
All my friends happened to be like tiny little girls
that were like half my weight.
And I was like this at the time, like five, five,
like all the girls are getting piggyback rides from the boys.
I'm like, if a boy picks me up, I will lose.
Like, do you remember that?
Like, I hate to this day.
Like, I hate being picked up.
Like, do not try to pick me up.
I will like, because it's just like a big girl thing.
We always say we're like Viking women.
Yeah, we are.
And like, I was towering over the boys since like third grade.
So I've just always been a bigger girl.
So yeah, Fat Camp was like, it was a really cool experience.
And I know my parents meant well by sending me there.
But I think it definitely like that weird number system like has definitely stuck with me.
It's interesting.
You don't forget things like that, right?
You always hang on to these weird things you learn when you're a kid. For sure. So ultimately, why did
you move to LA? And what did people from your hometown think about that? So I feel like by the
time I finished college, I went to school in South Carolina. By the time I finished college,
I really wasn't going back like home anymore. So I kind of consider my like hometown before I moved
here, like South Carolina, and lesser so like Maryland. It was my winter break. I came to visit LA and
visit my uncle and I like worked at this event and I went back and I was like, I think I'm gonna
move to LA. And all my friends at school were like, what? Like, they're so weird out there.
Like, you know, it's like a Southern school. They're like, why would you ever do that?
And I was like, you know, I just, I wanted to change. I had gone through like a southern school they're like why would you ever do that and I was like you know I just I wanted to change I had gone through like a pretty bad breakup in college and I think I was
just like I want to get away from everyone and like start a new life and I was like where could
I go that is warm but not the south I was like California and my uncle was out here so I was
like there's someone you know it's difficult to make a decision like that when everyone around you is saying why would you do that that's weird
like you really have to be pretty headstrong to make a decision like that I think I just the
weirdest part I don't even think I gave it a thought like when people ask me like I can't
believe you just like packed up your car and moved I'm like I can't believe I did that like that was
like really irresponsible and kind of just like what what was I thinking? I did have a job lined up like two days prior to moving, but it was very like,
it was like a customer service for a sunglass company. It was just enough to get me out here
to like pay my rent and like start out here. So when you started out here, you were working for
a sunglass company. And where were you living? When I first came out, I stayed in like a family
friend's office up in West Hollywood.
He lived right across from the Grove, which I loved.
I like would walk around that area, like get to know LA.
I like lived on his couch, like a pullout couch in his office.
I think I was there like two months.
And then I was like, I think I need like a bed.
So I got on like Facebook groups and found two random roommates who I still talk to today.
Neither of them live in LA anymore, surprisingly.
But I was with them for two years.
And like I lived in Hollywood,
like right off sunset near like Guitar Center.
Like it was very hustle bustle.
But it was definitely an interesting time in my life.
I had never experienced anything like LA.
So I was like going to the clubs and like hide.
And was there a lot of celebrity vibes happening definitely I like
very quickly realized they were everywhere and it's just kind of normal and like I you yeah out
in LA I think it's just pretty normalized you see them everywhere but like when I first moved here
I thought it was like crazy like I was like so I was in um one of the first clubs I remember I went
to like I literally flex I was like it was before Travis Scott was with Kylie but I was in one of the first clubs I remember I went to. I literally, Lex, I was like, it was before Travis Scott was with Kylie.
But I was literally at his table at a club.
And he was on top of the DJ stand rapping.
I have a video of it.
And I'm just like, oh.
I had no idea who Travis Scott was.
He wasn't with Kylie.
I was pre-Kylie, pre-all that.
But now I'm like, what the heck was I doing?
But it's a scene yeah and
I like really thought I wanted to be a part of it like it's very toxic and I realized it was not
the vibe I wanted to be in so I've never experienced that side of LA you know that
because I moved here married in my late 20s with a business so I've never done that I'm
intrigued and I think one night we should go out and you
should show me said clubs I'll take you out we're gonna hide do a little promoter dinner before
oh free dinner oh but even if I'm married should we just like leave that out of it
okay Greg don't listen to this episode I want to do that one day it's you know what it'd probably
be fun like every once in a while but I think I was doing it like every weekend. Like I said, I think I just got sick of it eventually and realized
it was very, not like a healthy and good environment. Why? I think I realized very
quickly that a lot of those people are like the most unhappy people. And that's why they're going
out every night and doing what they're doing. I also think it set really unrealistic like standards in my mind for what
I should look like. That was a huge thing. So, you know, when I was at South Carolina,
everyone's like in college. I remember I was always like a tall girl still because I'd wear
heels out to the bar and like I was towering over. I moved to LA and I'm like, oh my God,
there's like tall models everywhere, which I'm like, this is amazing. But then I'm like, wait,
but they're like this big and I
very quickly I'd be at these promoter dinners and a lot of promoter dinners and events are models
it's a kind of weird I don't even know if this is still a concept but like they used to have model
houses where like a bunch of models would live in one place together because they're all like
trying to like kind of make ends meet and get the gigs and stuff. And so they would all go out together. So like I would literally be out with models.
And I was not a model.
Even if I thought I could hang with them.
But so I was out with these girls.
And like as much as you don't think it feeds into you,
like when you're out with these girls that are this freaking big
and like at dinners with them and they're like not even eating,
it makes you just start like it messes with your head and so I think I very quickly developed a really bad relationship
with my body um I was like okay so like I can be tall but if I'm tall I should be like
real skinny that's the look and also I'm out with all these guys and all these guys are looking
googly eyes at these models and I'm oh, like no one's talking to me.
So I started to very quickly equate like male attention and relationships and like being worthy with like my weight.
Yeah.
And that was not healthy.
Which is crazy because you are a stunning girl.
Everyone will say that.
Like my DMs are full of people saying, Fee's gorgeous.
What's her routine?
You're gorgeous. And I feel like you and I have spoken about this.
LA will make you feel disgusting.
And it makes me feel that way
because we live in a place
where a lot of people come here for their looks.
A lot of people are here because of their looks,
I should say.
And then the second you leave LA,
you're like, oh, I'm pretty cute.
We're doing fine.
But LA will trick you into feeling like you're not enough.
It's for the beautiful people.
Growing up, my dad always said,
DC was for the power people.
People, politics, people that want power.
New York was for the money people.
You know, like Wall Street, all that.
And LA was for the beautiful people.
And like, we talk about this all the time.
You could be a 10 somewhere else.
You come to LA.
You're a 2.
You will be humbled. You will be humbled.
You will be humbled.
So quickly.
It's true.
Yeah, like, it's wild.
It's true, but I'm actually, since finding you,
I think you and I talk about that a lot.
And we make fun of it.
And I think that's actually helped me in a lot of ways.
Keep that in my head.
I think it's so easy to lose your footing here and get wrapped up in it. But
having someone like you in my life, we just make fun of it. We're like, this is ridiculous.
So reminder that it's crazy. At this point, you started working for a very well-known celebrity,
a pop star, we'll say. That's as much as we'll say we shouldn't say her name but I want to hear
about that being an assistant is a very selfless role and you are a very selfless person where do
you think that characteristic came from and then let's hop into like the world of assisting a
celebrity I have thought long and hard about this actually because like since during COVID I got a therapist
highly recommend to everyone and I kind of was like diving deep about so before I just I got a
therapist because I was remember like talking to friends and I was asking they were all telling me
how like they had therapists or like we're on medication I remember being like I'm perfect like
what what's wrong that sounds so bad but like I remember thinking, what's wrong? That sounds so bad. But, like, I remember thinking, like, what is wrong with everyone? Like, why do I have no problems?
And then I was like, oh, like, I think I do.
I think I just, like, act like I never have problems, which that's a problem in itself.
Yeah.
I, on the selfless thing, the dynamic growing up, my brother definitely had, like, a more difficult time in school.
And just overall, he had really bad ADD
growing up and I think very quickly the I just realized that my parents had to put a lot of time
into him and not not time but like he required a lot of extra assistance and I did not and so I
think I became a very like I'm sure my parents would say this like a very self-sufficient person
from a young age like when I would pack my bags to go to my,
like, help you pack,
when I would pack my bags to go to my parents,
other parents' house,
I'd be like, okay, I have these games to cheer for
and this biology test,
so I should pack all this stuff.
Like, I was doing that at eight years old.
Like, what eight-year-old, like, has that?
But I had to, you know what I mean?
Because I didn't want to, be like oh dad I forgot my
book at mom's house like because my brother like needed more of that attention so I think I became
like not even on purpose but like very kind of selfless and self-efficient through my childhood
because I had to which is an amazing quality to have as an assistant because I don't think twice half the time and I just do.
But it's like it does come naturally,
but I think it comes naturally because of something I went through,
if that makes sense.
Yeah, and I think actually a lot of people who are successful in their roles
are that way because they've had trauma in some sense.
So if you have a little bit of trauma from your life
that turns into a superpower,
I think that that's pretty cool.
Yeah.
So I've definitely learned to use it to my advantage,
but I'm still trying to work on,
though I can have it all together,
that like it's okay for me to sometimes not have it together.
And when I do just like try to not even put on a show
because it really is me,
but, like, sometimes your battery runs low, you know?
Like, sometimes after a week that we've just been, like, hustling,
and, like, even New York, like, this last weekend,
I was, like, oh, my God.
I was a zombie.
Like, I just was, like, I need, like, to be alone
and, like, not do anything for, like, a couple hours.
I enjoy it, and I'm good at it,
but it doesn't mean it's not
hard. Exactly. You know what I mean? It doesn't mean it doesn't take energy out. And it's healthy
to acknowledge that you are, I mean, I've spent so much time with you. You are such a doer and
you're like a little like positive robot. And it is, you know, sometimes it's okay to sit back and
be alone and reflect on everything you're doing. So how did you land a role with a celebrity?
So I actually was placed with her
through like a placement agency here in LA.
A friend of mine recommended I like reach out to this agency
and they're awesome.
You would go like interview with them
and then they'd be like,
okay, here's like 10 jobs,
like assistant type jobs to go interview for.
So I went on a bunch of different interviews,
interviewed for like a lot of really cool people. Can we say who? I can probably say one because
it's like really cool. And I thought I was going to get it, you guys. Like when I tell you it was
for The Rock, so Dwayne Johnson. And even through the whole interview process, they would not tell
me who it was for. They kept referencing him as like the principal. And it was like an assistant
to an assistant, whatever. Such a cool job. And
they were like, he is amazing. Like, I mean, he is like, look at him. And it was when his movie
Skyscraper was coming out. And like, I live in Hollywood. So I'm driving down the street waiting
for them to call me back. And he's like, on a billboard, like hanging off a building. And I was
like, it's a sign, like literally, like it's a sign that like, I'm going to get the job. And like,
when I left the interview, I had a bunch of interviews.
They, like, told me I pretty much got it.
And then it was, like, radio silence for, like, a week or two.
And I was like, ugh, what's happening?
They said they ended up not hiring anyone and the position was changing.
And, like, his schedule's crazy.
He travels, like, constantly.
That man is, like, not in one place or…
And brings his entire gym with him.
That was part of the job.
Like I'm sure you guys see this like Iron Paradise, whatever he calls it.
Every place he moves, he like has a gym set up.
So I was like going to be helping with that.
So that was like a super bummer.
I didn't get that one.
That would have been really cool.
I probably wouldn't be working for you now.
So I'm glad I didn't get it.
Sorry, The Rock.
Yeah.
I mean, now I work for Bloom, you know.
You should send him some. We should. Yeah. Maybe if he's listening. Yeah, The Rock. Do. I mean, now I work for Bloom. You know, we should send him some.
We should.
Yeah.
Maybe if he's listening.
Yeah, The Rock.
Do you want to try some greens?
So didn't get that one.
Ended up landing this one with a pop star.
It was, I was with her for almost a year.
I think it was like 11 months.
And it was the hardest 11 months of my life I learned like so so so much I really worked
my butt off I did so many different kinds of tasks I couldn't even like make a list for you
because it was just kind of endless but I tell Mari all the time like I think the reason I can
do so much and like any task you give me I'm like okay like you're like really really I'm like, I think the reason I can do so much in like any task you give me, I'm like, okay.
Like you're like, really?
I'm like, yeah.
Like I promise you, like I'll have it done tomorrow,
X, Y, and Z because this other job like required so much of me to do that
and like think on my feet and just like figure it out.
Pretty much end of the day.
Like you can't really say no.
There's never really a no.
There's always a way to do something.
And I definitely learned in that job
because I worked with a lot of like contractors. She was like having work done at her house and
all this stuff. And I think Mari always says like, I'm really good at asking for what I want.
And in that job, I was not. Like I used to be the person I'd be like, mom, can you like call
the doctor to make my appointment? Like I hated asking my order was wrong somewhere. I'd be like,
it's fine. I'll just eat it. Like I hated being annoying. I don't know. I hated asking for things. But in that job, like I had to learn to ask for
things because I wouldn't be able to get my job done. And a lot of time I was asking things that
people did not want me to ask, which was even worse. But it was a really hard experience.
I'm sure anyone that's worked in entertainment can tell you that. But it really does. I think
that's like when I was in my Hollywood phase and I was like living in Hollywood
and working in the hills and you see the other side of Hollywood and you see how it really is
not glamorous and how it's a lot of work and how it's really lonely. I was traveling a lot with her
and I remember being like in Hong Kong at this beautiful hotel by myself and like I think I
like went to bed super late and was waking up super early and I was in this gorge probably
the nicest hotel room I've ever stayed in it was beautiful and I was alone I had no one to share
it with I also was a very confidential job so like I didn't really tell anyone about it I was like
this sucks like I'm in Hong Kong no sleep could you experience the country at all or
no kind of like we would go out like I tried to go to like the market that big market they have
there and I went there briefly but like I pretty much when I was traveling I was working but would
you say that she was lonely too like did it give insight on her life as well I don't want to speak
for her but I think that lifestyle just in general is very lonely I know like Lady
Gaga put it the best way she was like all day I have people telling me what to do and in my ear
and I have my assistant all this stuff and then like at night you're alone I think that such
dramatic shift is like a lot for people to handle and yeah it's definitely really lonely life so
what was your work-life balance like back then? I had none.
And that was also a big time where I think a mix of like the pressures of Hollywood and not having time for myself to like go work out.
If I did have time, I was too tired.
I probably was making excuses.
I could have woken up early, but I was exhausted.
Like I was just so exhausted by the end of the day.
Like, I'm sorry.
I was like, I'm not about to go to the gym right now.
And I would really not eat a ton all day because I was just like constantly moving and then I would
get home and binge because I was so hungry all day and like I was I was stressed oh my god I'm
such I know like some people don't eat when they're stressed I am like a human garbage can when I'm
stressed like I will eat anything and everything like even days like if me and Mari have a crazy
day like I will find myself in the pantry, like, eating
one of those little chocolate Reese's, like, the health, like.
Oh, we love those.
I don't know.
Like, just, like, I need, like, sugar.
Like, I start craving stuff.
And so when I was super stressed,
I would come home and, like, order a pizza
and, like, eat the entire thing and then feel awful.
And then, like, on top of being stressed about my life and job, I'd be like,
why did I do that? And like, I'm like sabotaging myself. And it was just not a good cycle.
Did you feel like at any point you lost control of your eating habits?
I don't think I ever like classified myself or like got help for an eating disorder but um I remember actually reaching out to a
friend who had experienced something similar and like at one point I asked her for like facilities
because I was starting to really I did go through a phase of like binging and purging like I would
come home and not eat all day and then eat a ton and feel so sick I would eat till I felt sick kind
of just like not even on purpose.
But then it kind of turned into like a comfort thing. And like there was a point where, and I
can't believe I'm, I don't really talk about it. It's embarrassing. It's like really shameful. But
like I would go to like a McDonald's and get a ton of food and like eat it in the garage and throw
away the bag before I got up to my apartment so my roommates wouldn't see. And they probably had no clue, you know what I mean?
And at that point, I was eating knowing I was going to make myself get sick
to not eat those calories.
And it was so comforting when you do it.
I gave in and it would feel so good.
And then I would purge or whatever and I wouldn't.
I'd be like, okay, now I can be thin and not, you know, have the repercussions
of eating it. But it was, it got to a very bad point for sure. Yeah. I know that topic's really
hard to talk about and I appreciate you bringing it up because I think a lot of girls listening
can relate in so many ways. Could you give any advice to anyone listening on how you got yourself
out of that place so i would definitely
say seek help i was thinking about this on the way here like when you're in that kind of position i
did the same thing you justify it you're like like even me telling you now i'm like i didn't really
have an eating disorder i hear you justifying it like if i was a couple times a week i even remember
googling like does this count like if i'm only doing it this many times a week it I even remember Googling, like, does this count? Like, if I'm only doing it this many times
a week, it's not like I'm doing it every meal. If something is consuming your mind, there's a
problem. And so kind of like I'm doing, I think a lot of people, especially when they're in the
thick of it, they try to justify it. And, you know, I have friends and stuff that have had
eating disorders and aren't eating enough. And they're like, oh, I'm like on a diet. Like,
everyone tries to justify it. You know, they don't want people to be worried about them. But I never really spoke too much about it with like my family
or friends even because I was really embarrassed. And again, like I don't want anyone to worry about
me. I like to take care of other people. And the last thing I want is for someone to feel like they
have to take care of me. But and I just don't want to worry anyone. Like I never wanted to worry my
parents. Again, probably something from my childhood. I'm like, I'm good. I was not good. Therapy. Seek help. Yeah. I finally, so like I
reached out to that friend and asked her for this facility. And I think that was the breaking point
where I was like, look, I don't want to do that. I don't, I really don't want to like call my mom
and tell her I think I need to do this. And I was like, I think, let me take a, let me take a baby
step and let me try to figure it out by myself.
And if I can't, then I will do this, you know?
But so I found a therapist.
It's crazy.
Like I realized my whole first year and a half with her
was probably all about food, my relationship with food.
And definitely talking to someone helped a lot.
Through that process, it's actually kind of crazy.
It was during COVID and I found Mari and I found her
workout plans and like Bloom. And I was using like the protein and like protein oats. And
it's kind of wild, but like even finding someone like Mari, who was like a taller girl and a bigger
girl and like had muscle made me be like, oh, I don't have to look like these super thin models. Like, and no offense, you're stunning. But like you, you know what I mean? Like I was like, oh, I don't have to look like these super thin models.
Like, no offense, you're stunning.
But like you, you know what I mean?
Like I was like, oh, like muscle is cool.
And like, oh, like she eats like a bunch of eggs and like protein.
Oh, it's like, I don't know.
I was just like, oh, like there are girls.
I finally, I think I stopped.
I went on my Instagram and I unfollowed every model.
I'm sure I could name a bunch. I unfollowed every model. I'm sure I could name a bunch.
I unfollowed all those Victoria's Secret models. I was like, when I go on my feed,
and this is when like Instagram feed was like, I still very different. Like,
every time I got on my Instagram, I felt so bad about myself. And I unfollowed all of them,
like literally every single one of them. And I was like, I'm done seeing them. And I started following like fitness girls. Mari was one of them. And I
think that just alone, just realizing what you're consuming day to day was a huge part. So definitely
changing what I consume today. I started like working out and being like, okay, like I'm going
to try to put muscle on. And then definitely like the therapy. Those were kind of three things that
I think I made the adjustments to. And I think I've been able to come out of that and kind of 180. And I definitely, every day is not great, but I have a way better relationship
with food now. Like I eat like rice and oatmeal. Like I eat food, which is crazy. If you had told
me back then that I was going to eat as much like rice a day as I am, I would have been like,
like I was terrified of rice. Oh my God. And bread. I remember making like, I wouldn't make
avocado toast. I'd make like, I wouldn't make avocado
toast. I'd make like sweet potato toast with avocado on it, which like, okay, sweet potato
is still a carb. I thought it was like, it's a vegetable. Like it's better. But like, I would
not eat a piece of toast. Yeah. My roommate back then thought I was a nut. She would come home with
like In-N-Out and I was like, get that out of the house. Can't be around it. I feel like bodybuilding is pretty magic in that way
that it does completely shift your mindset.
And it's so much more empowering to go into the gym
and be like, I'm putting size on.
And that sounds odd.
And I think a lot of girls worry about getting bulky
or whatever it is.
You're not going to get bulky, guys.
Like, you're not getting bulky.
I look at myself in the gym and I'm like,
we freaking wish we could get bulky.
Shoulders, shoulders.
You would have to literally dedicate your life
for years to get bulky and eat so much food.
But having the goal of like growing your glutes
and your shoulders and having that protein,
it's so much healthier than getting smaller.
And that's what I've always loved about weightlifting.
And for me, it completely changed my mental state. And it sounds like it did for you too. Yeah, it was a huge part of it,
for sure. I got to a point where I was on my fitness pal and I was like 1200 calories a day,
just walking. Oh, I was doing soul cycle a ton. 1200 is nothing. That's a toddler. Like,
that's literally nothing. The least calories I could eat and the most calories I could burn.
Like that was the focus. And it's like, my mindset is so different now. So present day, you're working in the somewhat in the health
industry. I mean, a lot of our day revolves around talking about topics like this and making content
around nutritious food. Has that had an impact on the way you view your fitness journey? Like,
has that impacted you at all? I would say so. I mean, but like I said, I think it was a really positive
impact on me. You know, I think obviously the health and wellness industry can always have,
I think, like a little bit of a toxic side to it. I work for you. You're the one that's on camera.
So like, I know that is a lot of pressure on you. And I see that on you every day, which I think
can sometimes reflect. But if anything, I think it makes me realize
that it's not like everything.
And that like, I mean this in the nicest way.
Mari has like crazy nice abs,
but like, does she always have like a ripped six pack?
No.
What do you mean, Fi?
You don't see it right now as I'm sitting here?
Don't tell them this.
I'm spilling all the beans.
But like, seriously, like Mari, like she has abs, but like, does she have abs at the end of the beans but like seriously like Mari like she has
abs
but like
does she have abs
at the end of the day
after we've like
had a big salad
no
but I know that
does the world know that
no
I can't believe you're
exposing my salad belly
on my podcast
on my own show
no but that's such a good point
sorry
and I think
I know Mari
it's like a pressure to her
because like
you know
the side she shows
the world
is this like
ripped
Mari
but like she doesn't see that
all the time either
so I was like
oh okay
so like maybe if I don't look like
all the time
even the people that you think
look like that all the time
don't
don't
it's the angles
it's the lighting
it's first thing in the morning
before you've had a crumb
it's the whole thing
literally an almond
literally a crumb it's over literally a crumb. It's the whole thing. Literally an almond.
Literally a crumb.
It's over.
Literally a crumb.
Yeah.
But you do work your ass off.
And I think I saw that too.
I was like, oh, wow.
Okay.
This girl like eats super clean, works her butt off in the gym.
Like I've seen what you worked for.
And so that, I think it's been a good positive. You know, I've been like really dialed in on my workouts lately.
Fi has been on her shit, guys.
This fitness journey you're on is so cool.
Thanks.
Are you feeling amazing?
I actually, it's funny.
I woke up this morning and I was like, I feel like I've been doing like six weeks now, guys,
of like trying to eat like kind of to a plan with a lot of protein, a lot more carbs than
I'm used to in weightlifting.
And like, I finally woke up this morning and was like, oh.
No, you look amazing. Thank you. You do. it's hard when you look at yourself every we talk about this
but I mean you look at yourself every day it's really hard to notice things but like others
around you someone came up to me at the gym and was like all your hard work's like paying off
like we can tell and I was like really like you can tell so I think more importantly the way you
feel and the way you present yourself you just seem so energetic and so on it and really like
brightened up in general and it's i mean you're super committed every day she brings in her meal
prep it's amazing i know at the beginning me and mara used to like we get salads like we'd order
in salads but at the beginning she'd be like do you want your salad today i was like oh no like
i brought my meal she'd was like, oh, OK.
But who's meal prepping now?
Listen, I'm inspired.
We're going to Tulum for New Year's and we're both getting on our grind.
Yeah, guys, I came in this morning.
I was like, so I meal prepped all weekend.
Four hours.
I was sweating.
I'm like, who's the fitness influencer now?
Jeez.
OK, so we talked a lot about fitness.
Let's pause here. This was an amazing part one we haven't even talked about our relationship yet so guys if you want to listen to how fee and i met what our
dynamic is make sure you listen to part two thank you fee you're welcome i can talk forever i know
i can't stop maybe you need a show fiddleiddle Fee hits the mic. That's her nickname, by the way, guys.
Fiddle.
Someone we were working with asked Mari,
she's like, do you ever call her Fiddle?
I was like, what?
No, but now I'm going to.
Now she's like, Fiddle.
Fiddle.
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