QAA Podcast - Episode 139: Mother, Anon feat Charlotte Callanan & Vera Bergengruen

Episode Date: April 22, 2021

What happens when your mom starts believing in QAnon? Charlotte Callanan is a young woman from Australia who has been in this exact situation for 4 years now. She speaks to us about the process of fin...ding out about her mother's beliefs, educating herself on the conspiracy theory and attempting to find some peace despite a series of painful arguments plaguing their close relationship. Time reporter Vera Bergengruen also drops by to explore her recent article about QAnon candidates winning local elections. ↓↓↓↓ SUBSCRIBE FOR $5 A MONTH SO YOU DON'T MISS THE SECOND WEEKLY EPISODE ↓↓↓↓ https://www.patreon.com/QAnonAnonymous Follow Charlotte: https://twitter.com/evilsocialisttt Find her podcast: https://twitter.com/SMOKOpodcast Follow Vera: https://twitter.com/veraMBergen/ QAA Merch / Join the Discord Community / Find the Lost Episodes / Etc: https://qanonanonymous.com Episode music by Pontus Berghe

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up QAA listeners? The fun games have begun. I found a way to connect to the internet. I'm sorry, boy. Welcome, listener, to Chapter 139 of the QAnon Anonymous podcast, the Mother Anon episode. As always, we are your host, Jake Rockatansky, Julian Field, and Travis Vue. Great to speak with you again, listener.
Starting point is 00:00:27 This week, we're exploring what it's like. to live with QAnon in your family through the lens of a daughter whose mother has been an adherent of the conspiracy theory for the last four years and counting. Her name is Charlotte Kalananan and she lives in Melbourne, Australia. We'll be speaking to her about her path coming to grips with the conspiracy theory and attempting to maintain a relationship with her mother despite profound disagreements over their respective beliefs. But before all that Q&ONON News. For my first story, conspiracy theorists and assorted cranks gather for a conference in
Starting point is 00:00:57 Oklahoma. So last week, thousands of people gathered at Rima Bible College in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma for the two-day health and freedom conference. Speakers included General Michael Flynn, Passion of the Christ star Jim Caviesel, My Pillow, CEO Mike Lindell, and Qaedaan-promoting lawyer, Lynn Wood. Covezio was there to promote his new movie Sound of Freedom. In that movie, he portrays Tim Ballard, the founder of the controversial organization, Operation Undergone. Railroad, which purports to help save children from sex trafficking. That organization has also been criticized for lacking transparency and exaggerating the role in helping trafficking victims. For example, Operation Underground Railroad claimed that it rescued a 17-year-old girl named Liliana, who, according to court testimony, actually escaped by herself. So Tim Ballard has stolen valor from a teenage sex trafficking victim. Great people, gray organization. During that conference, Caviziel praised Ballard as someone who was saving children from being andrina-chromed in Dums.
Starting point is 00:02:04 That is the deep underground military bases. Tim, you're playing the role of Tim Ballard. And Tim is actually continuing to save kids. I mean, you're making a movie about it, but this is what he does. And he was supposed to be in the room with me in right here or in Tulsa, but he's down there saving children. as we speak, because they're pulling kids out of the darkest recesses of hell right now in dumbs and all kinds of places. The adrenochroming of children.
Starting point is 00:02:37 That is so bad. That is so bad. He knocks on three conspiracies at once. He goes, they're pulling them out of hell. Dums exist. And the adrenachrome is what he's clearly. Yeah, he turned it into a verb, which is new to me, I got to say. The best part is that is that they didn't just let that.
Starting point is 00:02:56 adrenicroming line slide. He was asked to elaborate, and elaborate he did. You said a word a minute ago, and I want to clarify what that word was, because you said a word, and I want to make sure that you said adrenachrome. Yeah. And a lot of people here, there's about 4,500 people here. There's about a half million people streaming online. We're having some cyber attacks.
Starting point is 00:03:22 That feeds been going on and off. It's a, but you said that word. and by a show of hands, who's heard that word before in this building? Could you please explain to the extent that you want to or not want to what that is, because some people have never heard that before, and we need to discuss that? Essentially, you have adrenaline in your body. I'll just simplify it.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And when you are scared, you've produced adrenaline. If you're an athlete, you get in the fourth quarter. You have adrenaline that comes out of you. If a child knows he's going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline, and they have a lot of terms that they use that he takes me through. But it's the worst horror I've ever seen, is screaming alone, even if I never, ever, ever, ever saw it. it's it's beyond and these people that do it um there'll be no mercy for them um it's uh this is one of the best films i've ever done in my life um the film is on a level of of academy award um level it sounds to me like ballard
Starting point is 00:04:42 because he said, you know, all these other things that he's told me about. So it seems to me that Ballard is feeding Cavizal all of the Q&on bullshit. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And he's like, he's like traumatized. He's trembling. He's, has difficulty explaining this stuff because it's so horrifying
Starting point is 00:05:00 to him. So fucked up. I think he sounds like he really thinks it's real. The adrenichrome stuff is so baffling to me. Like we have that, you know, don't talk to me until I've had my adrenachrome mug. And it's funny because that's one of the ludicrous, obvious bullshit beliefs that Q&ON believers have. Like, it's like there's no substance to it, but it still persists. You got a crowd full of people cheering, screaming, yes, no mercy for the adrenachrome farmers.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, and it seemed like about 20% of the crowd raised their hands when they asked, you know, does anybody know what that means? Also, this makes me very concerned that the movie itself is going to be a QAnon movie. Yeah. It's disturbing enough when it's just online. line. I don't know. Just seeing just a crowd of people just getting worked up over adrenochrome that has a, I don't know, a new kind of level of dread for me. Yeah, the guy's like, there's half a million people tuned in. Give him that shit. Feed him that
Starting point is 00:05:57 red pill, boyo. Yeah, this reminds me of like when we went to that the first Q&ON basically meeting that was only had like 80 people in DC all the way back in September of 2019. And Gene Ho was talking about, we know all about the adrenochrome and then everyone's ears perked. up and they cheered because that was the shit that they wanted to hear. Lind Wood, for his part, gave a full-throated endorsement of Q to loud applause. They've accused me of being a QA non-conspiracy theorist. Why? Because they're telling you that I am a bad messenger.
Starting point is 00:06:29 They're trying to attack me because they can't attack Q because Q is the truth. This is about the children for God's sakes. Send this videotape. Send it to Hollywood. Hey, Clay, send it to the House of Windsor. Hey, Clay, send it to Bill Gates. send it to the damn Aluminati
Starting point is 00:07:14 let them hear the truth and whatever they do to me I don't fear them at all send it to the Vatican send it to the politicians the Clintons, the Obamas, the Bidens, the Bushes, send it to those people because they are involved in child sex trafficking. It's time to tell the truth to America. We're cooked, boys. This is it.
Starting point is 00:07:57 That is the purest televangelism that I've seen when it comes to QAnon. The line, yeah, the Q is the truth. It's about the children got this crowd on their feet. For my next story, FBI director Chris Ray promises unclassified threat assessment of Q&ONN soon. During a Senate hearing on Wednesday, Senator Martin Heinrich asked FBI director Ray why the Bureau had not yet released a threat assessment of QAnon. Ray responded by saying that his staff is working with Heinrich staff to get that unclassified report out shortly. Hyrick also asked Ray about speculation that Q is really Ron Watkins and asked for possible legal consequences for people who promoted QAnon. Ray seemed to sidestep the question. Here's how he
Starting point is 00:08:50 responded. You're no doubt familiar with some of the public speculation that Q is really Ron Watkins, the administrator, the internet image board, AitCon formerly known as Ait Chan. Whether or not Watkins is Q, he and his father clearly are responsible. for hosting these sites and co-opting furthering the Q&on conspiracy phenomenon. You know, given the prominent role that Q&N did play in the January 6th attack on the Capitol, what are the potential legal repercussions for those who might be primarily responsible for either propagating these sorts of dangerous and in some cases violent messages in these forums?
Starting point is 00:09:35 Well, I think your question starts to raise different legal theories. We obviously, again, have to be careful to be focused on violence, threats to violence, and things that violate federal criminal law. That doesn't mean that rhetoric isn't a societal problem that doesn't need to be addressed. But from the FBI's perspective, from a law enforcement perspective, we try to be very careful to focus on violence, threats of violence, and associated federal criminal activity. sounds like to me, like people really want basically Ron and Jim Watkins, you know, prosecuted
Starting point is 00:10:10 for something. Problem is, is that it's not a crime to be a QAnon promoter. It's not a, it's not a crime to platform hateful ideas. So he's trying to say, no, no, no, whoa, no, we're just focused on basically on the Q&N promoters who are, or Q&N followers who are using this ideology to, as a pretext to commit violent acts. Our next story concerns the election of Q&N followers to local offices.

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