QAA Podcast - Episode 143: Jim Caviezel: Enter The Cavortex feat Dave Anthony

Episode Date: May 19, 2021

Three anonymous sources spoke to Julian Feeld about the actor who played Jesus in Mel Gibson's 'The Passion of the Christ'. Dave Anthony, of the Dollop podcast, joined us for this exploration of Jim Caviezel — from his rise to fame and role in Terrence Malick's 'The Thin Red Line', to his promotion of the QAnon-related Adrenochrome conspiracy theory at the 'Health and Freedom Conference', to his bizarre and dangerous behavior on the set of 'Person of Interest'. ↓↓↓↓ SUBSCRIBE FOR $5 A MONTH SO YOU DON'T MISS THE SECOND WEEKLY EPISODE ↓↓↓↓ https://www.patreon.com/QAnonAnonymous Follow Dave Anthony: https://twitter.com/daveanthony / http://instagram.com/dave_anthony_ Listen to The Dollop: https://allthingscomedy.com/podcast/the-dollop QAA Merch / Join the Discord Community / Find the Lost Episodes / Etc: https://qanonanonymous.com Episode music by Pontus Berghe

What's up QAA listeners? The fun games have begun. I found a way to connect to the internet. I'm sorry, boy. Welcome listener to chapter 143 of the Q&Nan Anonymous podcast, the Jim Kivisel episode. As always, we are your host, Jake Rockatansky. Dave? Yeah, I just cut out for a second.

Are you guys still that? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're here, we're here. I just, it's a, it's a, do you guys, say your name? This is good, man, we're coming in hot. I'm Dave Anthony, what the fuck? Julian Fields and Travis View. Not all of Hollywood is evil.

Some brave souls believing themselves to be sent by God himself are attempting to cleanse this cesspool with fire. Emerging as a potion. boy for this righteous movement is actor Jim Kivisel, who played Jesus in Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ, but also acted in movies like Terrence Malix, The Thin Red Line, a star-studded production of Wyatt Earp, and The Count of Monte Cristo. Great movie. Jake.

I spoke to three sources who wish to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation within their industry, and they shared their experiences working on set with the actor over the course of years. So this week we'll be exploring what they had to say to me in the context of a deeper dive into the sacred heart of one Jim Caviesel. Conversely, our guest this week represents the other side of Hollywood, promoting the godless pleasures of socialist hedonism by blending comedy and history in his work. I'm speaking, of course, of Dave Anthony, who you may already know from the Dullab

podcast, which he creates with Gareth Reynolds. But what you might not know is that Mr. Anthony has also worked for years in the belly of the Hollywood beast hovering from set to set, presumably to help with the adrenochrome extraction. Welcome to the show, Dave. Thank you very much. And the other thing you can take away from that intro is that I apparently don't care about my career

because I am fully on the record on this podcast where the other people are hiding in the fucking shadows. I'm here. I'm here to tell everybody about adrenochrome and Kavisel and everything we're doing, and we're up to a lot of shit. A lot of good shit. Nineteen sixty-eight.

You're of our Lord Jesus. Christ. Jim Cavizal was born in Mount Vernon, Washington, to Margaret, an Irish-American stage actress turned homemaker and her husband James Cavizal, a chiropractor of Slovak and Swiss descent. Cavizal was the next to youngest in a Catholic family of five. He was raised with his three older sisters and younger brother in Washington, where he graduated from John F. Kennedy Memorial High School and ended up at the University of Washington in Seattle. There he grew interested in acting, following in his mother's early. footsteps. Jim's first movie-related break came in 1991 when he was offered a minor role in Gus

Van Sance, My Own Private Idaho. Now considered a classic of the new queer cinema movement, it stars River Phoenix, rest in peace, and Keanu Reeves as young men living on the street and turning tricks to survive. This appearance earned Jim his Screen Actors Guild card, and he moved to Los Angeles soon after, despite, quote, how many people thought I was out of my mind, something he chalked up to the fact that, quote, they'd rather compromise instead of following a dream. After a stint in the professional acting program at the University of Southern California, USC, Jim turned down a scholarship offer from the New York-based Juilliard School in order to instead portray the titular character in the 1994 Western

biopic, Wyatt Earp, which co-stars pictures like Kevin Costner, Gene Hackman, Catherine O'Hara, Isabella Rossellini, and Tom Seismore. Jim Caviesel was becoming a thing in Hollywood. After some appearances on TV shows like Murder She Wrote and The Wonder Years, Jim scored a role in Terrence Malick's 1998 war film The Thin Red Line. After being cast to play Cyclops in the 2000 X-Men film, he was forced to drop out due to scheduling conflicts with

frequency, a science fiction film he started alongside Dennis Quaid and Noah Emmerich, which by the way... Another great movie. Terrible choice of his part. It's not a good movie. It's an insane it's a fucking insane movie. Wait, am I thinking of the right one where it's like

their time traveling through a radio? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, great, great movie. I don't think you know what great means. No, I don't. That's a fact of the show that I tend to gravitate towards absolute filth cinema. That's okay. That's okay.

I'm open about it, you know? Although Jim made appearances in several other films during this period, it was his titular role in 2002's The Count of Monte Cristo that caught the attention of Mel Gibson, who was looking for someone to play Jesus in the Passion of the Christ, which he was directing. Both Mel Gibson and Jim Caviesel viewed the project as a death sentence for their careers in Hollywood. Here's from a Huffpo article in 2011. Jim Caviesel told an audience at the First Baptist Church of Orlando on Saturday that Gibson begged him to reconsider taking the gig. He said, you'll never work in this town again.

Caviesel remembered, I told him, we all have to embrace our crosses. Oh, fuck, man. Caviesel recounted a similar story in 2004 when he spoke of the encounter in an interview with the 700 club which not a lot of Hollywood actors do on a press junket. Hosted by T. Vangelis, Pat Robertson,

the next day he said, I want you to be aware of what you are going to go through. You may never work again. He said that several times publicly, I told him Mel, this is what I believe. We all have a cross to carry. I have to carry my own cross

if we don't carry our crosses we are going to be crushed under the weight of it so let's go and do it and we began the film he's he's not being literal like he's actually he's not being figurative

he's talking about actually carrying a fucking cross that's what the movie is yeah also it's a bizarre confused metaphor because didn't Jesus carry the cross that executed him yeah yeah I mean there's that

So that's the end result of carrying your cross. You are crushed with it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the whole purpose of carrying the cross is to crush you and break you as you walk down the street. Did I not tell you that at the end of this episode, we will be executing Jim Caviesel? Holy shit. This is going to be the best podcast that's ever happened. On the set of the passion, Jim allegedly dislocated his shoulder, caught pneumonia,

and was struck by lightning multiple times, among other physical discomforts. What? I'm sorry, you said, it just sounded like the words you said. It's struck by lightning several times. Multiple. Multiple. At least twice. Like, you'd think they made it up, but it apparently is verified by many people who were on the crew that day.

So, Jay, could you just take the lines that Jim had in an interview where he explained it? I climbed the mountain. Clouds had formed. And five seconds before the strike, I had felt what was going to happen. It was windy, but I couldn't hear the wind blowing. suddenly I was struck by the lightning I was terrified but at the same time I felt peace on the inside before it all happened Mel had shouted action

and the cameras were directed at me it was the moment I was struck afterwards I heard Mel shouting what the hell has happened to his hair it was funny yeah it was funny I mean it was just when it was funny lightning strikes Funny set, you know, funny set thing.

You do feel it before it comes because that's how electricity works. It's just lightning comes down and hits you like a branch. Like the air is being like powered up sort of. Yeah. And then, of course, he felt it on the inside because his heart probably stopped. It's just a medical thing. That's a medical situation. But thank God someone was there to go, oh, his hair is fucked.

Yeah, you know. what Mel Gibson's worried about. He's like, Jesus Christ, it's going to ruin the tape. You've got to get hair of makeup back in there. If I'm working on a film, and it's about Jesus Christ, and I get hit by lightning, I'm taking that as like

a, hey, stop doing this fucking movie. Like, that's, yeah. Like, if there's any sign that a power wants you to stop doing something, it's being hit by lightning. Like, that's the number one. Wrap it up, dude. From the 2011 Huffpo

article again. Still, he seems to have no regrets. Quote, we have to give up our names, our reputations, our lives to speak the truth. Cavizial reasons to the audience. In the 700 Club interview, Cavizio gave more insight into his reasons for doing the film. I felt like a great presence came within me at times when we were filming. This prayer that came from me was, quote, I don't want people to see me. I want them to see Jesus. And, through that conversions will happen. That's what I wanted more than anything, that people would have a visceral effect to finally make a decision whether to follow him with a capital H or not. Him and Mel are kind of around this period pretending that they're destroying their careers.

They're never going to work again. They're putting it all up there for Jesus. And of course, it was just not true. By 2011, director and writer Jonathan Nolan with J.J. Abrams among the producers, hired Jim Caviesel to star in person of interest, a science fiction series that would run for five seasons on CBS. In it, Jim portrays ex-CIA agent and ex-Green Beret John Reese, who works with Harold Finch, played by Michael Emerson, the developer of a computer program for the federal government dubbed The Machine. It is able to process sources of information and identify people planning terrorist acts. Ethical issues around The Machine are central to the series, which she's Cavizio fed social security numbers of persons of interest to investigate.

In the long run, the machine becomes sentient and begins acting to preserve itself, exploring a new set of ethical questions. Person of Interest won the 2012 People's Choice Award for Favorite New TV Drama and the 2016 People's Choice Award for Favorite TV Crime Drama. Jim explained how he chooses these roles in another interview with the 700 Club. I look for redeemable stories. Look, there's something moving about a character who finds himself in a very negative situation and trying to turn and find the positive.

We're finding himself in the darkness by the choices he's made and suddenly says, you know what, I can't do this anymore. Now, the character I play John Reese and person of interest wouldn't say he is in any way in the light yet. He's still trying to find that way, but how many of us are looking for it. And God needs people to be those beacons of light. This is the period of Jim Caviesel's career, his stint on person of interest from 2011 to 2016, that I'll be focusing on in this episode because the people I spoke to worked with him during this period.

Over the last month, I spoke to three different sources who, like I said, wished to remain anonymous due to fears of retaliation within the industry. All three worked with Jim Caviesel on the set of person of interest for multiple years, and they describe their interactions with Jim in detail, I'll be using verbatim quotes from my Skype interviews with them. There were several reasons I ended up speaking to these sources. One is Jim's portrayal of Tim Ballard in Sound of Freedom, an upcoming movie lionizing the Q-adjacent anti-child trafficking organization

that Ballard tastelessly dubbed Project Underground Railroad. The other is that Jim Caviesel appeared at the Q&on Health and Freedom Conference over Zoom and promoted the adrenochrome conspiracy theory to a delighted audience. Tim, you're playing the role of Tim Ballard, and Tim is actually continuing to save kids. I mean, you're making a movie about it, but this is what he does. And he was supposed to be in the room with me right here in Tulsa, but he's down there saving children as we speak

because they're pulling kids out of the darkest recesses of hell right now in dumps and all kinds of places. The adrenochroming of children. That immediately led to a third. follow up by the incredibly eager presenter at this big Q&ON conference. You said, you said a word a minute ago, and I want to clarify what that word was, because you said a word, and I want to make sure that you said adrenachrome. Yeah.

And a lot of people here, there's about 4,500 people here. There's about a half million people streaming online. We're having some cyber attacks. That feeds been going on and off. It's a, but you said that word, and by a show of hands, who's heard that word before in this building? Could you please explain to the extent that you want to or not want to what that is? Because some people have never heard that before, and we need to discuss that. Essentially, you have adrenaline in your body.

I'll just simplify it. And when you are scared, you've produced adrenaline. If you're an athlete, you get in the fourth quarter, you have adrenaline that comes out of you. If a child knows he's going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline, and they have a lot of terms that they use that he takes me through. But it's the worst horror I've ever seen, is screaming alone, even if I never, ever, ever, ever saw it. It's beyond, and these people that do it, there'll be no mercy for them. it's

this is one of the best films I've ever done in my life the film is on a level of Academy Award level it would have been so great if they've asked them what it was and he goes all right so we got to go

way back have you heard of the protocols of the elder Isaiah there's all Jew hating that we've been doing for San centuries. Holy shit. But not only that, but he kind of like mentions they brought me through it, which I can only assume means he learned this bullshit from Tim Ballard, the founder of Operation Underground Railroad, which I'll be saying OUR from here on out, which purports to fight child trafficking on a global scale. So here's a quick rundown of this guy. In the past, the pro maga and

devoutly Mormon Tim Ballard has used conspiracy theories to build support for OUR, including the idea that wayfarist trafficking children through their furniture. website. Ballard publicly claims to be X-CIA and Homeland Security, and was appointed by Donald Trump to the, quote, public-private partnership advisory council to end human trafficking. People close to the operation have been speaking to the media for years about OUR's lack of credibility and effectiveness, one time even relying on a supposedly clairvoyant woman from Utah to locate non-existent traffic children abroad. When their operations are, quote-unquote, successful, they go on to claim they save the children involved and add them to their tally of

successes, which is now supposedly above 4,000. But in one case in the Dominican Republic, the 26 girls they quote unquote rescued were released in less than a week after the raids because the resources to house them and provide aftercare were non-existent. In fact, Tim Ballard is known for strolling into foreign towns with an armed entourage and camera crew seeking photo ops with random children, and even his raids are usually later misinterpreted in their PR materials. In one case, for example, the supposed freed child had actually escaped her captors on her own, and OUR took credit for the rescue anyways. OUR is, by the way, also under investigation in the state of Utah, and Davis County attorney

Troy Rawlings has warned people about, quote, any individual entity or organization who solicits your money and may be claiming credit for work to protect children that is actually done by our task force and or other law enforcement organizations in Utah and around the world. Just because someone claims they were called by God when asking for your money does not necessarily mean they actually are. So this is the guy who's about to get a biopic about how fucking awesome he is. Like it just

I really hope there's a scene in it where he's like talking to the medium that he met in Utah who said she like did a remote viewing and found the children in a foreign village. They of course went there and there was nobody so he just wandered around taking photos with people. I mean just every story that comes out of this

guy is insane. And of course it's a foreign village so I assume no one is speaking English in that village so they can say whatever in the fuck they want about those people and there's no one to go, no, that's not what happening. That's not what's happening. There's just our kids in our village. We've lived here forever. Yeah, all right. We're about to get to the meat of the matter. Enter the Cvortex. A tall, blonde, light-eyed man who has told the Mormon press

that he was sent by God to save the children. It's really no surprise that Jim Cavizal is going to be playing Ballard in Sound of Freedom and seems to have absorbed some of his Q&M related ideas about child trafficking. My source has expressed a universal lack of surprise at Kivisel's Cuenot on turn. They described the man profoundly consumed by a jumble of bizarre religious, military, and nationalistic fixations, which we'll be exploring in a moment.

A name was even coined on set for the recurring experience of being cornered by a barely coherent gym. The cavortex. One source explained, it's just him soft talking about three inches from your face, total stream of consciousness,

but not a consciousness that was going in a linear fashion. Meanwhile, I have a walkie on all the time, so somebody's talking to me in this ear, and I can't hear him. A colleague would have to come pull me out all the time. I have never had a real conversation with him in years of working together.

So I've had that experience at, like, a college party before, but, like, not, like, with someone I'm working with. But this is so Hollywood, because these people get to keep succeeding, even though everyone's like, no one wants to work with it. him because no one on the set is making the decision. It's just a producer and a guy who's like,

this guy means X amount of dollars, so we'll put him in a movie no matter what. And then you just get these fucking lunatics. This is what Travolta was apparently like, and this is what Tom Cruise is like. It's all the same shit. It's just conspiracy lunatics who no one ever says no to. You're just over at Kraft Services,

and you grab a couple of red twists. You cram one of your mouth, and a dude walks over and he goes, do you know what happens to babies when they're really, really scared? Are you the lead? Yeah, okay, so they get scared and then you take their blood. Yeah, and you can't say anything because he's the lead and you're like, I don't want to lose my job. I'm just a fucking grip here.

And if I say like, hey, fucking weirdo, get the fuck away from me. Then everyone's going to go, oh, we can't have him around. The normal one, the normal guy we can't have around because the crazy guy gets to do whatever he wants. Sources were remarkably frank about Jim's inability to communicate with people around him. quote the thing you have to know about Jim candidly is that he's one of the stupidest people you will ever meet he is not he is not smart I pray for him that he never winds up in a paper bag because he will be stuck and he will die this is amazing reporting julia stupid stupid is not a word I super throw around

he's just not a bright guy it was like working with a dog Holy shit. I mean, that's, isn't that the feeling you get when you see an interview with him? Like, he's just really, really dumb. And that's the other cool thing about Hollywood. You can be dumb as fuck and just have a great, great career as an actor. Or anything, a writer, a producer. I mean, whatever you want, wherever you, wherever you, if you stay long enough,

wherever you end up, there's space for you. Well, once you, once you start, like, once you've embarked on a, uh, like making a TV show like person of interest. There's like 200 people on board with an ongoing project, and replacing the lead in the first season will destroy that project. So everyone is kind of like emperors, no clothes

until you get to the secured second season, and then you're caught in a fucking endless cycle. Yeah, I mean, look, once you're locked into a show, you know, there's 90, 100 people that all have jobs and are paying for their mortgages and their car payments and everything else based on this

dude not being crazy. I mean, I mean, if word of what he is gets out, it can ruin your, and then you have to try to find a new job and scramble, and you're on pilots, and then another pilot, another pilot. You get something stable. You're like, I will totally just accept the Holocaust denying guy because I just need a job. Yeah. Another source described him as, quote, a very broken brain childlike person who is fundamentally super religious.

So whatever childlike understanding he has of religion, I think he thinks he's a loving person. He is not. He is filled with hatred of other. Over the course of his five years with person of interest, Jim lost multiple privileges on set due to his behavior. One source described a shoot which involved Kviesel driving a car. We were shooting in Midtown. We were at 3rd Avenue right by Smith and Wollinskys, and we had a pull-up with him in a car. And generally, if an actor has a driver's license and it's not a stunt pull-up, you have the actor do the action. And he, in Manhattan, blew a red light and nearly hit four or five pedestrians, not with the production. at all, because he's like, no, that's what my character would have done.

I would have come in hot. And I was like, this is 100% illegal and completely dangerous. And that was the day we banned him for the next two and a half years from ever driving a moving vehicle no matter what. Can't pull out of a parking spot in a parking garage because he would just get in this mindset and do things that were extremely dangerous to the crew, to the people around us, to the cast, like just not okay. yeah so he can't drive so he but so what does that mean he thinks of what his character is like they all described him not understanding that he wasn't his character doing the thing when he was in the scene but he would not but that mean he's literally saying that his character just gets to drive over people he's like well this is what my character would do no then then the show would

just be you driving around killing people all the time it's not a good show yeah well we'll We'll find out how that's exactly what he wanted to do. He wanted to kill people a lot on this show. That's definitely a thing. Another source described the situation that developed around Boker, the dog Jim was tasked to act with. Quote, the dog that we had on this show was way, way easier to work with than Jim. And the dog bit Jim, actually, and we had to replace the dog.

Because Jim, and this is a trained Belgian Malinois, who does like takedowns and stuff, Boker was the dog's name, and Jim kept on yanking on Boker's leash after he was told not to, and the dog bid him. Then we got another dog and painted its chest white. So he's literally like a four-year-old that you're like, stop doing that with the dog. Stop doing that with the dog. Stop doing that with the dog. And he managed

to get the dog so pissed off at him that he bit him, and then they replaced the dog because they couldn't replace Jim. So sad. So sad. Everything that's wrong with Hollywood. Really? Yeah. It sounds like the dog was a more productive member of that set. He also, after that, Jim was no longer allowed to handle any dogs.

And also, let's say, he just, I assume the way this works with most of these animal wranglers is this is a person who makes their living off of Boker, and Boker had a regular fucking gig. So he just got a person, like we were talking about, a guy who works on the set or a woman who works on the set, now it doesn't have a job. It wasn't that the dog got fired. That's like a person's living. So that person is now scrambling after having thought what they thought was a gig until this fucking idiot kept pulling on the leash and screaming about baby's blood.

The previous two stories were corroborated by all three sources who also explained to me how Jim's relationship to violence and firearms got him in trouble. Here's from one source. He was obsessed with Navy SEALs. He was obsessed with guns. He always wanted to shoot people and kill people, which was not a thing. I'm sorry. in the context of his character

he was a hero and it was also a gun-heavy show and Reese his character would shoot people in the knee he was not a go for the head go for the chest guy but Jim really wanted to

like kill people as as Jesus would have done Jesus a huge fight Jesus like who do I get to kill now Jesus you would shoot this man in the knee.

No, I wouldn't. So he, I mean, going back to who this guy was, the character that he was playing, ex-CIA, right, and X, something else, ex- Green Beret. So he just thinks this guy kills Pete.

He has the understanding of a five-year-old. Oh, he's a, he's a, he's a shoot boom-boom guy. He kill many in a wet, uh, green land. And now I, and that guy, I shoot kill people. He loved the seals so much that he thought he was part of them. He kept talking about how he trained with them and had friends among the Navy SEALs. And so people would kind of, it was a running joke that he thought he was a seal and that he had stickers on every one of his different vehicles to show that he was like supporting the Navy SEALs.

And telling people that he was a SEAL, right? I'm basically a seal, but yeah, basically he would tell. I'm basically, I mean, I trained with him, you know? I got, it's known as Hollywooded in. I got Hollywooded in. And I didn't have to go through the main training. I wonder if going through the thin red lines so early in his career, like, locked him into this idea that he actually was a soldier and that he had surfed in World War II in the Guadalcanal. Apparently he trained with the Navy SEALs for real for a Ridley Scott film at some point.

So that's where that story comes from. But, yes, he probably also thought he was a veteran of Vietnam. Why not? I mean, he certainly confuses himself with Jesus a lot, seemingly. That's easy to do. If you live in the life that he is. There was a line I could, yeah, like I didn't get it in, but it was like someone telling me that he once told the showrunner

that he was technically Jesus. That's a hard conversation to have as the shell runner. Technically. Another source explained that Jim's fixation extended to torture as well. He always wanted Reese to torture people to be cruel. He would be like, I have a great idea. You're going to love this, despite us not loving the past 100 ideas. And he'd be like, what if I put the gun up his nose?

And it would be like, no, man, we're not doing that. Jim's not a guy that does a lot of planning or thinking ahead. It would be like on the day. I'm seeing this. I'm thinking it. I'm here. and what if I, you know, strangle this person? What if I killed them?

What if I put their face in the water and held them down? Never bind, it's a real actor who's being put through this. It's a real human being who is just being paid to do a job. Again, it's that almost fabulous, not connected to reality, understanding of what's going on. There is no difference for Jim between an actor or a prop. They were all there to be as toys, you know? We had to stop using even blanks and the guns.

We were like, no more, no more blanks, no more anything. We'll do it all in VFX. That made Jim mad. So they took away. Why don't my guns go bang anymore? They took away his bang bangs. Another source described how bad the situation got. Quote, similarly to the blanks, if he had any sort of long arm in his hand, so a larger piece of metal during a fight,

we would put a balaclava on him so we could just stunt double him, because we didn't trust him to have this chunk of metal in his hands and do a fight. Oh, my God. Just a liability. Just a horrible person to work with. He sounds, honestly, he sounds like what Ultimate Warrior was in, like, the pro wrestling. Yeah, he's, he's, what's his name? Lenny from a Mice and Men. He's just, like, this just sounds like, it's just a really dumb person.

And you're like, I mean, it's a cliche, but nothing sharp, nothing around Jim that Jim can hurt people with. Which is, by the way, like, this is the worst scenario for any kind of co-star or, or supporting actor on any situation, because you've got a guy who you have no idea how far they're going to take it. They could actually hurt you, and you can't say anything because they're the lead.

If you make a fuss or whatever and upset the lead, that's your job on the line. And it's near fucking impossible to get an acting job on a professional set anyway. So you're basically walking into each one of these scenes going like, I hope he doesn't kill me today. Oh, yeah. That would be the person with Vimo's stories

is whoever the co-star was who would just, I mean, the stories that would come out of that person because that person would truly be scared and that you can't really act in that environment. No. If your co-star is like, hey, I was just thinking about this scene

and I know we're talking about our moms but I thought I could take it up a notch and I just start sodomizing you with a gun and you're like, wait, what's happening at Jim? Your ideas don't really work here. He's like, I don't know, it's more personal. It's just got to be like constant that because this is a fucking maniac. Eventually in the last couple of seasons, most scenes involving any violence saw Jim's character wear a balaclava so they'd be able to employ a stunt double instead of him.

This was for good reason. All my sources corroborated a story about Jim working with Clark Peters, Lester, from the Wire. In the scene, Kavisel was supposed to be interviewing Peter's character, who was tied to a chair and ostensibly unconscious. But Kavisel veered off script, putting Peters in a headlock and dragging him by his head. the chair skidded across the room. And this isn't an isolated incident. Stories of Jim Caviesel choking one actor, slamming another's head into a mantle above a fireplace,

and punching a third in the face were common knowledge on set. They consistently triggered human relations issues and arguments among crew leadership. One source explained, it was just over and over again. It's like having a puppy. No, you can't chew on that. No, you can't chew on that.

No, you can't chew on that. Except the puppy talks about Hitler. in not a completely unfavorable light is the end of that quote we'll come back to that hitler comment in a moment although his behavior and opinions got him in a lot of trouble some aspects of working alongside jim were just frustrating for the crew by season two one source described the system they used to help jim with his lines which he consistently forgot. So literally every single scene, we gave him cards with just his lines, numbered, nobody else's lines. And he would just kind of cup them in his

hand. If you watch the show, you can see him look down constantly. Holy shit. I mean, that's like what Brando did, but you're just bad at it. Yeah, no, he doesn't... This is... Oh my... Like, how fucking lazy.

You have one job to do, but he's sorry, he's off talking to a grip of about Hitler right now so he can't study his lines. Oh my God. That's pretty much yep. That's, yeah, you're describing the set. This is the most fucked up thing about Hollywood is that like every other character on the show from like a co-star

probably to like background. They all know their lines. Like the people who are getting paid the least know their shit the best. And the fucking guy who's making millions upon millions and getting fucking residuals and back at all that shit is literally just having his shit

written on note cards so he can like look down it it's infuriate he would tell people uh that he was good at improvising but had memory problems and uh and explained various different scenarios in which he got brain damage one of them was a supposed accident during his uh years playing uh sports in college i believe another one was a motorcycle accident but all of them amount to like him saying i have brain damage i was hit by lightning like all these different things that have happened to him in his life but that shit you if you're an actor that's like saying, hey, I can't really do my job. Here's a bunch of reasons why.

Anyway, I would like to work here. Yeah, you should do a different job, yeah. No, your one job is to remember lines and say them. You can't be like, no, I got hit by a bat when I was in the jungle. Did I tell you that I'm a Green Beret? Yeah. Have you heard of Green Berets for Hitler? It's a thing.

Yeah, Green Berets for a re-examination of Hitler's catalog of ideas. Like, it's that kind of subtlety that he would lend to it. All three sources corroborated a story about Jim growing angry when, in one scene, he wasn't provided a card. The crew told him what his line was and explained that they didn't want to insult his intelligence by printing one up. Jim insisted, and they relented. He was handed a small card with a single line on it. No. No, you can't be a thing.

This can't be a thing. I was shown this card by... I was shown this Oh my god He's like a fucking cabbage Like he's not even a human being He got pissed furious I want the card that says no

Another source explained they once saw Jim Saying the same line wrong a different way In 15 different takes He could not remember his lines to save his life One day he was actually doing a good job of one of his speeches and then they called cut and the actor turned and we saw jim's short slides which were a piece of 8.5 by 11 cut in half he had taped his lines to this other actor's face no no i mean can you imagine you're on the crew and you just see the other actor turn

or you see like the reverse shot and they've got jim's lines taped oh fuck i mean once the the writers who had to work directly with jim figured out how he was like they would write shorter shorter lines for him. Yes. Obviously. And apparently there was this story that also didn't make it in where he couldn't get, look, it's a drone. And he just kept saying, look, it's a clone.

Oh, no. As a writer who has written on shows, you begin writing for that actor. Like I have worked with an actor who was a lead who had been hit in the head and did have memory problems and we didn't find out. till halfway through the season but was totally ashamed of it and had like a massive breakdown it's just like I'm having a real hard time so you try to work

with that person other actors just don't want to read the lines so you just start making what they say less and less and less until you're putting no on a card and going God I hope he nails this or in some cases they're so fucked that you just change the script

afterwards so that it fucking matches whatever the thing they ended up fucking saying is and the worst thing about all this is that the worst thing about all this is that every time, you know, the 15, 17 takes where he's looking up in the sky and going, look, a clone or, you know, whatever, this is like, people are, like, now late for supper. Like, you can't go home to, like, be with your family. Like, so many, so many nights you'll go till two or three in the fucking morning, especially if it's a fucking night shoot.

And everybody's just praying that the guy who's making the most money on set, the guy who's making 10 times what your salary is, can fucking remember his three. sentence line so that you can like go home because you've got to be up your call is at like 8 a.m. the next day. It's just it's abusive. It's what it is. It is. I had one day

on Merrimand I could not remember my lines and I had a huge scene and I felt so fucking bad. You just feel like shit but there are so many people like Jim who just don't give a fuck. Yeah. They just don't care. Yeah. So let's get back to the Hitler

stuff. All of my sources were adamant in their claims that Jim Caviesel often brought up the genocidal German leader. One source explained, He would talk about how Hitler was very organized and regimented and intelligent, and he had like a really smart plan. A different source told me. He's definitely one of those guys who would say, like, Hitler did have some interesting ideas.

He's one of those guys. He's not smart, so he's fascinated, like Trump. There's no difference in his mind between leadership and power. Anyone who's powerful must also be smart and right. So he's just the kind of brain that's ripe for fascist thinking. We had to have his agent tell him to stop bringing up Hitler on set. I think more than once we had to call his agent and say, Jim cannot talk to people about Hitler.

Oh, the amount of times the crew would look over to the craft table, see Jim there and go, fuck, I got to wait to eat. Because I can't. 100%. I can't go into the Kuvortex. The number of times a guy didn't go to the bathroom because Jim went in first. Like, it's just a nightmare of scenarios like that. You like to talk about how Hitler was like a really great military mind, but he was evil.

But that's how he would couch it. And then, oh God, he would do like Hitler impressions on set. Just kind of like using his fingers to do the mustache, walking around and speaking, just being weird. He wouldn't be saying anything of substance, which is the difficult thing about Jim, is he a child, or is he a vicious lunatic? I don't know. Think of all your fucking stereotypes about Hollywood, about how it's this Jewish-controlled, blah-bottie-blah, and yet this is allowed to exist, which just shows you that Hollywood actually has no morals and doesn't care about anything whatsoever, because this is a guy

walking around doing Hitler impressions and gets to keep his fucking job. Think about any other fucking job in the world that would allow somebody. If you work at McDonald's, you start walking around, you're flipping the fries, you're doing Hitler impressions, you get fired. I thought of it, Jake. Being Hitler. Yeah, that's the only other job. It is the one impression you don't get to do.

It's the one thing. Jim's doing his Hitler again. Here it goes. Jimmy. Yeah, do the body's doing the mustache. I love it. You see, you're looking over to the craft table and he's doing the Hitler walk in front of the table. God damn. I'm not going to fucking eat today, am I?

Oh, and now you're like, how did he and Mel Gibson get along? I can't understand. What could have possibly happened there? They love each other. So another source told me, Oh, he loved to do Hitler impressions. He did them all the time. I also had more than one cast member because he would frequently do a Hitler impression in the hair and makeup trailer who came to me very uncomfortable. Like, is this? What is this? It's not funny.

What is happening here? Does he believe this? So that was a pretty constant issue. All my sources confirmed that he once screamed at a co-worker over a perceived scheduling mistake related to a Porsche gym was supposed to drive in a scene. He accused her of lying, which she wasn't, and told her she needed to repent for her sin.

All my sources confirmed that the crew member in question was also constantly undermined by Cavizal due to her gender. Religious extremism was a big source of frustration for the anonymous crew members I spoke to. They all described Jim ranting about his beliefs, including his anti-abortion stance, anti-LGBQ stance, and a strange fixation with identifying Jewish people. This isn't hugely surprising considering his association with Mel Gibson and their collaborative portrayal of the Passion of the Christ, which was, you know, criticized for its representation of Jewish people.

To give us an idea of how Caviziel thinks in this area, we can rely on a 2017 article in right-wing Polish newspaper, Uv Politeza, where he compares his work as an actor to that of Polish, Pope John Paul 2. So I'll play the interviewer, and Jake, can you take Caviesel? Of course. John Paul 2 was an actor just like you. Therefore, he knew the power of art better than any of his predecessors. Exactly. Now, this is where his power came from. He understood the people, and it helped him win over the hearts of millions. He's simply a saint. You were 33 years old, your initials were J.C., and you played Jesus. Don't tell me it was a coincidence. There are no coincidences. I keep hearing about accidents and strokes of luck. Secularization affects the entire

world as well as the USA. Only atheists believe in coincidence. There are no coincidences for God. Even when God resurrects the dead, they will say it happened by accident. Maybe this is the reason why they killed God, like Nietzsche. When there is no God, they can do what they want. We can see that in America every day. It's even more visible in Europe. The founding fathers of America could not imagine it without God. The French Revolution started with killing the priest and spitting on Jesus. But let's go back to Hollywood and your work. Quote, you will not work here anymore. Mel Gibson told you that when you took up the role in his film. To what extent was he right? All of a sudden, I stopped being one of five most popular actors in the studio, and I haven't done

anything wrong. I just played Jesus. Was I personally affected by this rejection? Well, everyone has their cross to bear. The world changes in a particular direction. but after all, I will not be in this world forever, neither will the producers from Hollywood. At some point, everyone will have to answer for what they've done. My friend, who is evangelical, asked me once why I don't reach out to Jesus directly, but I follow Mary instead. I think it's a valuable question, and then I didn't know how to respond to him. However, looking at John Paul II, I found the answer.

That's why Poland, like no other country, is tied closely to Jesus. You bond East and West together. The devil hates it, although he is already lost. Jesus and Mary have already crushed him. A single Polish person crushed communism. How did John Paul II achieve this with love? The Pope always called young people to break away from contaminated and immoral civilization. Be a saint, he said.

Impossible? It is doable. I often hear the voice of Christ in my heart. Jim, you will manage today. It is a message saying that everyone in the world is equally important. It is also an appeal for a Christian life, life in which one demonstrates to everyone they come across that Jesus is their Lord. I remember the Pope saying to Americans, you can all be saints. It makes me sad to think that so many people in my country do not seek sainthood.

They substitute it with drugs and hedonism. It is simply filling the emotional void. And one of the shittier effects of his, like, extreme religious beliefs was that he would not be afraid to express prejudice against gay people to his co-workers who, by the way, you know, according to them, about 50% of the writer's room was gay or LGBTQ. And Jim didn't really know that, and they didn't want to share it with him, but he would just constantly grandstand about this stuff. There's this incredibly specific situation, and all three people described this, a situation where Jim was being tasked with saving a gay couple from a dangerous situation. So this is the script of the episode, and he just refuses on moral grounds, and at the time he explained that he believed that the couple were sinners and thus should be allowed to die. And then he threatened to refuse to do the episode, then he had this huge extended argument with the showrunners, during which he was politely explained that during 9-11, an event that Jim had expressed much reverence for, the firefighters who went into the building did not ask the people they were saving what their sexual orientation or religion was. Jim

appeared to begrudgingly understand and was later heard on set saying something to the effect of even if a person was a transvestite I would save them because that's what the firefighters did on 9-11 Oh, this is so Trumpian, right?

You take the last thing that was told to you and now you're walking around battling it. It's just amazing. They're just so fucking dumb. As a result of his behavior, the crew organized themselves to film any scenes including gay romance when Caviesel was not present on set

at all. All of them told me they felt Kvizel was homophobic and believed members of the LGBTQ community were going to hell. One of the weird, there were like a range of different coverages of Kavisel. He'd obviously go to like his more extreme religious or right wing outlets for the puff pieces, but there are these like weird semi-sympathetic pieces like Charlotte O'Sullivan wrote for the UK paper The Independent in 2002, which I guess is right wing, but it's a very bizarre tone she takes here. he talks about his recent reconversion during the shooting of Monte Cristo he'd been feeling unhappy and overwhelmed

by his work schedule so his wife arranged for him to meet a visionary and while they were praying together the Virgin Mary came into the room Kavisel says that for two weeks afterwards he was able to pray from his heart it was the most beautiful thing he says with a hiccup of pleasure

she's like he's hiccuping with the pleasure of his words quote If you talk to young men these days about being priests, they say, oh, God, I wouldn't be able to have sex. Forget it. But this, I don't want to make this sound disgraceful to God, but it's like an orgasm that the Holy Spirit gives you. What? Yeah, he came spiritually when the Virgin Mary appeared, I guess, during his shooting of Monte Cristo.

So, Kavisel gets very animated when talking about, quote, the flesh. For one love scene in Monte Cristo, he and his co-star were required to appear topless. Uh-oh. He asked that she put something between her breasts and his chest. She made pasties out of her flesh-colored underwear. If it is embarrassing for people on set, he says, without prompting, if they think you're a wimp, that you're an embarrassment talking this way, well, I'd rather be embarrassed before the whole country than before God.

I think men need to take the lead on these things. If I say to my wife, Carrie, honey, I'm going to do a love scene today, but I'm not going to sleep with this girl. I'm not going to allow her to put her breasts upon my skin. He touches his chest reverentially. because I see that as only for you. Does that offend you? He fixes his eyes on me.

Do you think she would be offended by that? I don't think so. But yet he's willing to run over four pedestrians, choke a dog out, fucking drag a guy across the floor and a headlock. Oh, but God forbid that he feel a real experience of intimacy. What a fucking, God damn it. There's a rumor that he got an erection during a love scene once

with Jennifer Lopez and had to say, stop, uh, like basically stop the scene. And after that, I guess he was just freaked out of maybe just getting a boner. Because like you said, it's, it's, it's fucking, um, of mice and men. Like, this is Lenny. He's just, oh, now I got a boner. Oh, now I almost kill people. If you don't, if you're doing a love see with Jennifer Lopez and you don't get a boner, then God is fucking up big time. Like, it's a sign of disrespect in her culture. Okay. This is just so fucking crazy. I mean, I get, okay. So. Okay. So. I get it. You're super conservative

or whatever, and you don't want her breasts on you. But just don't take the fucking part, or I guess I don't. I know. Like, you know it's going to be in there. And the funny part is that despite these statements, two of my sources described instances of Kavisel's behavior as sexual harassment, and all of them called

this behavior around women on set inappropriate. One described an instance in which Kavisel told a female co-worker that she could cheer him up by, quote, doing a little dance in that cheerleader costume you had, because she was an ex-chairleader, after she expressed concern over his father who was ill at the time. There was another story that everyone told me where he was working with a woman who was

quite a bit shorter than him, and he hugged her all the way around so that his hands were on her side boobs. No, fucking Jesus. And she was like, yeah. I mean, the worst part about talking to people who work on set is they were all like, oh yeah, no, like he was not at all. Like, he was just one of the many who tried to grope me on set or, like, it feels like sexual predation on set is just like a totally.

Almost like that was more normal than the rest of what they were describing. Psychopaths go into the border control and they become ice guys and they become cops. And people who want to get away with sexual crimes go to fucking Hollywood because it is an environment in which no, once you get to a certain position of power, no one says no to anything. You get to just do whatever. Yeah, this kind of fits with the broader Me Too stuff. I mean, people, the people telling me about this, they would talk about their experiences with Me Too around this other weird thing that was Jim Caviesel. And so they would constantly, just because of how fucked up the situations are, say, well, you know, so he wasn't that bad. Like, you know, there were worse guys, you know, I've worked with way worse.

They would tell me that every single one of them told me that. Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's just standard. I mean, you know, we all knew about Cosby and we knew about Weinstein years ago. Like, there's a reason that Cosby was outed by a guy on stage. just being a comedian talking off the top of his head because everybody fucking knew about it. Like we know about all these people. Yeah, which is, you know, makes it just so much harder to extinguish things like Q and on. It's like we need to clean up this group of insane sexual predators at the top of the entertainment system.

Yeah, I mean, you know, you get rid of Kevin Space, but Kevin Spacey isn't in jail, right? I mean, it's a problem. The Q shit all comes from these grains of truth and then they turn it into complete fucking madness. What happens with all conspiracy theories? The Epstein shit, you know, there was something there. And now it's like, boo, like it just goes to fucking madness. Yeah, they get chronology wrong.

They get specifics wrong. And, you know, they're almost always wrong. But every single time, you know, when I sit down with a person like that or talk to them, I try to bring up the things that are real because that's like our only hope of bridging reality again is to be like, no, no, no, the world is really fucked up. Like, you're right about the general feeling you have. Yeah. Now, let's look at, you know, why Satan doesn't play a role in it.

Right. When it came to race, Jim's behavior was downright bizarre. All three sources told me that he would often see a stranger, judge their ethnicity, often incorrectly, and start speaking to them in a fake version of their supposed language with real words mixed in. Oh, my God. What the fuck? What just happened? That is. The majority of the people he addressed this way were multi-generational Americans. citizens who did not necessarily speak the language he was attempting to mimic.

In one instance, an Asian American executive visited the set, and Jim walked directly up to him, pressed his hands together and bowed, saying, Asso. No, no, no, no, no. What in the fuck just happened? One source, he just went full Benny Hill. Like, it's just grandpa brain. This is, where in the fuck?

is this person from? Like this is the crazy. It's like someone just took an empty to brain out and went let's just put all the craziest dumb shit in here and see what we can do with this. And that was an executive. That wasn't just like some rando on set.

That was an executive who... I mean, that's a person with power who then has to go back and go, I guess we'll keep him on the show because he makes us money. But man, he's fucking crazy racist in a way that I've never experienced. One source told me, quote, he'd see black people start talking with a black accent, like all that stuff, just exhausting. Now I just want to be as assistant for a couple of weeks. Yeah, give you some access to him.

Just to be around it and watch it going on. Just because it's, I mean, this is cartoonishly crazy. And Jim's issues with black people did not stop there. According to one source, he protested a scripted romance he was supposed to have with a main character played by a black woman, arguing in a production meeting that, quote, people shouldn't have interoperated. racial relationships. This was in the words of my sources. And one of my sources explained, he came in and basically shut that down, which completely destroyed her character, which was hard for her because she just became there to spout exposition. So he basically ruined her character. Jesus Christ, man. But he, but again, he doesn't give a shit about any other character or anybody outside of himself. One time, Jim allegedly saw a white guy in the writer's room that he'd never noticed before and started speaking to him in fabricated German, despite the man not

being German. Okay, guys, I'm going to take off. I can't listen. Oh, good talk, Steve. You're so crazy. You just think every white guy knows German.

Like, that's how fucking insane you are. He's like, I can recognize the Germanic blood flowing through your veins. Like, he's like, bro, I'm like, Irish or something. Oh, fuck. A source described Jim arguing with a Chinese-American woman who spoke fluent Mandarin after she informed him that his words were, in fact, not Mandarin. So he just argued with her like, no, no, it's, that's real, it's real.

And she's like, no, no, I speak the language. Yeah, I guess this, this is to me is the fascinating part of what seems to be coming out here now. It's almost Tom Cruisean and Trumpian. There seems to be a thing where he thinks he can bend reality in a way. And he's speaking gibberish, but he's like, no, I'm Jim. He's also ever, you should have. understand this. I'm speaking Mandarin. Yeah. He's like, sure, I learned Mandarin while I was over serving my second tour of duty

in Iwo Jima. I want to add a little complication to the whole Chinese thing because Jim adopted with his wife three children of Chinese origins. And at the time, they had cancer. So, I mean, so, but, but then on the other side, after the incident where he bowed to the Asian American executive, he was confronted by some of the crew, but he explained to them, according to one source, it's okay, my adopted kids are Chinese.

So it's okay to go say a soul to like some randomly, some guy you've never met. Jim's obsession with identifying Jewish people was accompanied by a pretty clear hatred for Islam as well. My sources described an incident in Washington, D.C., where person of interest was filming on location, where Jim Caviesel wandered off set

and joined an event organized by a group planning to burn a Quran. The episode was actually documented by news outlet, the DCist. Rachel Curzius wrote in December of 2015. The now deleted Facebook event instructed participants to, quote, be ready for a Quran roast and called for people to come to the White House on Saturday to, quote, stand up against Islam and the Islamic immigration, which is illegally being implemented on our nation. No one was more ready than a group of counter-protesters. They shouted down the participants and surrounded them with sheets.

to prevent people from seeing them. They also stole the Quran, the group planned to burn. Owned. Destroyed, you fucking losers. Actor Jim Caviziel, who was filming his CBS show, person of interest outside the White House, made a cameo appearance as well. He got out of a van and walked over to see what was going on, says Matt Curtland, the organizer of the counter protest.

He chose to insert himself saying, quote, You are all wrong, I know Islam, Islam is evil, all the men want Sharia. Kirkland says that Caviziel said something, something in Farsi to a bystander, quote, as if to affirm that Islam is scary and then walked away. So again, with the languages, he broke into Farsi. Kirkland said that the group didn't recognize the passion of the Christ actor until

after he had already left. The statements are completely fabricated. Martin D. Singer, an attorney for Cavizal, wrote in a letter to D.C., quote, Mr. Cavizal did not make the statements attributed to him, nor did he say anything like them. The claim that my client made the statements is an utter fabrication. Other protesters affirmed Kirkland's account of the events. Jordan Dinari was holding a sign that said, quote, I am Christian and I love the Quran, when she says Caviziel approached her, though she didn't realize who he was at the time. It was a tall man in a really nice suit who looked familiar,

she says. He started talking about Sharia law and then told me to watch the movie The Stoning of Soraya M, which she said would tell me everything I need to know about Sharia. The film, which stars Cavizal, is about a woman in Iran sentenced to stoning under Sharia law. At one point, he started speaking in another language. I said, that's not Arabic. And he said, no, it's Farsi. She does not know what he said in Farsi. It's because it wasn't Farsi.

Protester Tiana Tritna was standing nearby and also saw the exchange. He started speaking about Sharia law to Tenari. He started speaking Farsi and then he was pushed along by a handler, she recalls. It all happened really fast. A fourth protester who asked not to be named for fear of reprisals said that Kavisil, quote, was super intent on Sharia and Islam being evil. I want to hear the Farsi that he's speaking.

And I want to have a linguistic expert and just have him talk us through all of his just gibberish nonsense that he's because it's got to be like a porky pig version of what someone thinks Farsi is, right? It's just got to be so completely bananas. If you were to, like, confront, like, Jim Caviesel be like, no, this, like, isn't far. Like, he said he argued with the woman who said it wasn't Mandarin. He'd be like, no, that's impossible. I've studied Mandarin for years.

I mean, I know, like, how far gone is this brain and should it be studied for generations to come? Yes, he's perfect for QAnon. He has a deeply disturbing mental issue that is almost beyond my comment. comprehension. And I think that part of it is that, like, we've all met liars and known liars in our lives. But when you get to be a movie star and do whatever you want, it crosses this plane that is inexplicable to someone who's just trying to understand it. It just doesn't make sense what's happening here. One source explained, the only thing Jim doesn't discriminate against is discrimination. I don't think he should work again. It's not fair to everybody that has to work

with him. So I thought that was a pretty fair assessment. And another source elaborated on Kavisel's ideology. Quote, there's a hate there. There's just a hatred and a fear of other of anybody who's not fitting that traditional straight white male macho man mold. I mean, he sounds like the exact, it's what we now know what fascists are and where they come like there, there is an angry stupidity within them that is unparalleled. And it just wants to fucking ruin everything that isn't them. There's a belief that there's, yeah, cultural degeneration, which is exactly what Hitler thought. You know, he was cleansing in his mind, the culture, and these guys got end-day stuff

mixed in with it. So it's, and they're usually like recent converts. I mean, you know, his thing with the visionary or whatever, it's, this guy has like a fresh layer of religious extremism that's been recently applied. Montecristo was not that long ago. Anyways, so I inquired whether Jim's behavior was apparent to the showrunners and upper management, like you mentioned, Dave, and a source told me... Oh, yeah. Everyone knew something was wrong with them. There's no way that stuff didn't make it.

We had to talk to CBS Human Resources about him. Certainly, people knew about it at every level. The next show was supposed to be a role on CBS's SEAL Team 6. When it dropped that Jim was cast in it, all of us started texting each other immediately, because the dumbest thing you could do was cast Jim Kivisel as a fucking Navy SEAL. You'd never hear the end of it because he already thinks he is one. And what they did when they were shooting the pilot, they just sent the dailies up to Moonvez. They sent the dailies and were like, what am I supposed to do with this? So they replaced him. But we, at least in terms of his performance, we moved heaven and earth to make his performance make some sort of sense. and there was an effort to protect him within the company.

There you go. There it is, yeah. I want to see those dailies that they sent to Moonvez that convinced him that Cavizal could not be a seal. I want to see Jim in the lost pilot for SEAL Team 6, so bad. It's fascinating that they were getting it straight to him because usually that's really hard to do. I mean, to get Moon viz to look at the dailies and sit down

and watch them like, he must have already had. an inkling someone must have gotten to him and said less this is you know you got to watch this shit this is speculation but the showrunner jonah nolan uh brother of christopher nolan he was really exhausted by the issues over the five years of person of interest so i wouldn't be surprised if he himself was like please get this to moon viz before this guy embarks on another five year span with a whole new crew like he's a fucking if anybody could it would be one of Nolan brothers. I mean, that makes sense. One of the top guys.

On September 10th, 2020, Kavisel appeared on Breitbart News Daily, a radio show to promote infidel, a 2020 movie produced by Dinesh DeSuzza's DeSuzza Media, and directed by a conservative Iranian-American called Cyrus Nauriste, who has since, of course, converted to Christianity. It's good to see. I was hoping this trio would come together to make something. Yes, so this is like, this is coming out like almost at the same time as this Q&ON movie. And even the Baltimore-based Catholic Reveh. which, you know, shares a faith of him, has claimed the movie is incredibly Islamophobic. Here's from their review of the film written by Kurt Jensen.

In dealing with religious conflicts in Iran, the stereotypes Muslims as having beaky noses, scowling constantly, and being prone to wishing and committing violence on those who disrespect Islam. The impression writer-director Cyrus Nowastave's film leaves as a result is that of a bigoted fugue punctuating dog whistles with siren blasts. The plot revolves around Doug Rollins, Jim Coveesial, a Christian blogger whose wife, Liz. A Christian blogger. We need more Christian blogger-made characters.

I mean, those are, those poor people. Let's get fucking top Hollywood roles for every dick shit who writes a Washington Post opinion piece where he's like, I'm some young man on the plane said fuck. A Christian blogger whose wife, Liz, works at the State Department. Liz, we learn, had her faith shattered as a result of a car accident years ago. The couple has an Iranian friend, Hussein. But minutes into the drama, police arrive at Hussein's home, where he's found to be leading combination terror cell and recruiting center.

Just their one Iranian friend. Soon thereafter, Doug sets off on a long-planned trip to Cairo to appear on a TV show. Despite Liz's warning, whatever you do, don't preach. is undeterred. He proceeds to stare straight into the camera and tell the viewership, Jesus is God. He said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. For this presumed insult to Islam, Doug is abducted and tortured first by the Hezbollah in Lebanon, and later by Iranian terrorists, all of whom blamed Jim for Hussein's arrest and believe both Jim and Liz work for the CIA. Liz travels to Iran to seek Jim's release, but is frustrated by an obtuse legal

system. She also was violently attacked by men she trusted to help her. While continuing to struggle with her lack of belief, Liz finds safety with a small underground community of Christians led by women. The movie is intended to reinforce existing ideas rather than change minds or explain in any detail how sectarian conflicts arise. Nuance is thus entirely absent, and thus the focus remains on extremism, overcoming morality. The presence of political commentators, and author, Dinesh D'Souza, among the executive producers, help set the tone. One more compatible with agit prop than effective evangelism.

But Breitbart Radio loves Jim. Here he is on the radio show, promoting Infidel. Welcome back to Breitbart News Daily, very special guest on the line. Actor Jim Caviesel is with me. He's best known for playing Jesus Christ in the Passion of the Christ, but he's in a new movie out this coming week, Infidel, in theaters, believe it or not. September the 18th, directed by God. guy named Cyrus Narosta, who I actually met a long time ago through Andrew Breitbart.

You can check out more about the film at infidel 911.com. Jim, it's really a treat to have you on. Hey, thank you very much. So the film is, it's really a Middle Eastern thriller. This is the type of thing that, you know, 10, 15 years ago, we used to get these on a routine basis, and now it seems like we don't get them at all. And I think we know why that is. I think we've gone to a more politically correct age.

And we particularly don't get any that focus on Christian persecution in the Middle East, which is a rampant thing. And we cover this a lot at Breitbart day to day. It's a bold move being involved with a project like this. Well, when I was younger, you know, back in the 70s when we were in school, you know, we prayed for the American hostages in Iran every day. You knew exactly what was going on in the media, maybe not the government, the media happened, they did some good things.

You know, they made it, put a lot of pressure on the, you know, governments on their narrative to make sure that they were released. And you don't see that today. Very, like you said, Dave, bird-brained understanding of history. Like, I prayed for the Iranian thing that I could see on television in the American suburbs or whatever. It's just, it's just incredible. Like, the lack of knowledge of just, and that's a basic thing, you know, if,

you were alive through that it was a big deal but we all know what fucking happened there like he but he's just created a completely different fictional version of it and then is somehow relating it to this i feel like christian alt history is is an expanding genre you know there's like because the the culture's so cleaved there's like a part that doesn't want to see any of the cultural products of the other side and so you get these insanely these movies like i don't know ben shapiro's school shooter movie uh or this kind of stuff or i mean even passion of the crisis is kind of before its time. It's like, it was the first time

that it was like, well, maybe we could get some, like, star power. We could get a guy like, you know, Mel Gibson to direct our propaganda. And it worked because people loved that movie, even though it was highly criticized. People watched it a lot. Yeah, and they watched the left behind films

and, you know, all that shit. Yes. Yeah, and Jake loves everything. He loves it all. Well, you know, there are other creators who have figured out how to do it more intelligently, like Tyler Perry, who is essentially just doing sort of Christian morality plays.

you know, Christian morality plays, but he's not having like the Jews sucking the blood on or, you know, throwing stones at G. I would say that a lot of movies still fundamentally revolve around a, you know, sort of a Christian ideology of the world. Yeah, of course. But it's not enough. It's not enough. And so, you know, of course, there are guys like Bell Gibson and Kavisel and whoever's

directing this movie and the guy who's directing the Tim Ballard movie. that are like, no, we're going to, like, we're going to give the Q&On people what they like. And that's why, after reading some of this stuff, like about infidel and all that shit, I am convinced more than ever that we are going to see representations of Adrenachrome on screen in the Tim Ballard movie. Julian, I bet you $5. Okay, I'll take the bet you $5 that we will see, like, the extracting of Adrenachrome in that film. You're just doing wishful fulfillment, but I'm with you, dude.

If it cost me five bucks to get that to happen, then fine. No, I don't want to see a popular QAnon movie starring a big, fairly mainstream actor. That's the last thing I want to see. I want the Q&on movies to remain on YouTube, you know, low production value, you know, recycled memes and stock footage. That's, you know, they're equally as harmful there, but you get the fucking big budget ones and like, then we're really in for it. Well, speaking of blood and the culpability of Jewish people, the end of the interview with Breitbart sees Kavisel announcing something very special, and this was in September of last year. And the question, every single person wants to know, will there be a Passion of the Christ sequel?

Mel Gibson just sent me the third picture of the third draft. It's coming. It's called The Passion of the Christ, the Resurrection, I guess. resurrection, the conscience of Christ resurrection, and it's going to be the biggest film in world history. It's going to be the biggest film in world history. So, so they're actually doing a sequel to Jesus and it's, he's, he's back. Like, it's literally Jesus is back. And then they just roll, he's rolling out the, in a world where Jesus never died. Of course, Jake would rewrite it to not act. actually respect the Catholic belief.

Actually, in a world where Jesus died and then was brought back to life. So we're finishing up the episode here. Just this February, Kavisel posted a photo of himself with Mel Gibson and a private viewing party for the Ballard biopic Sound of Freedom alongside its devoutly Catholic director, Alejandro Monteverde, whose previous works included the 2006 anti-abortion film Bella and the 2015 film Little Boy, in which an eight-year-old boy is inspired by a Bible verse to grow his faith in order to bring his father back from war. What?

Yeah. And it works. How does that work? His father comes back. Well, God takes care of it. Yeah. Don't you know about God and what he could do? Come on, man.

I didn't know. I didn't know that could be a thing. There wouldn't be any people in war. Well, I guess that you would need. Well, you have just war against, like, the infidels, of course. Yeah, yeah. To keep fighting that one, I guess. Jim also recently appeared in an Instagram photo with boxer-turned-Q-on-in-on-influencer

David Nino Rodriguez. That was just this Sunday, May 16th, and they were in Texas at some sort of barbecue of their, like, common friends' house, and they use the hashtag Sound of Freedom, so they're promoting that. It seems pretty clear that Jim Caviesel, despite his religious extremism and abject behavior on the job, has found a niche in the industry, acting in movies that cater to a growing category of whiny conservatives, convince their ideology and faith are under attack. Although this is an unfortunate way for things to go, I am personally excited to see Jim star in Linwood's directorial debut, The Passion

of the Mold Children, in which Jesus personally clears the tunnels with a giant flamethrower mounted to a white homer. Now we're talking. What do you think, Dave? Dave, will you play Jesus in this? Oh my God, yes. I mean, abs so fucking lootly. Yeah. I'm actually going to cast Jim Cephizal as

an evil Jew, and I'm going to force him to wear like a prosthetic. You got to eat this child, Jim. Jim, it's what they would do. It's what, Jim, look, now, on 9-11, some of the firefighters, they crawled into the basement and they ate the children. Heroically. Dave, I wanted to ask you, now that all of this is behind us,

and we've explored all that information, you look a little hammered by it. I understand that. Do you have any impressions? I'm always amazed at how much Hollywood just astounds me by what it allows human beings to get way with. There's a part of me that like, okay, I get it. Like there's Harvey Weinstein raping women and there's Bill Cosby raping women and it's like, well, that's sort of gone on forever. The men

protecting men are just powerful people protecting powerful people to get away with sex crimes. That's just, that's been around forever. But this kind of shit, Harvey Weinstein is a powerful individual. Bill Cosby's a powerful individual. Kivisil is not. No. He's a fucking dime a dozen actor that doesn't mean shit. he literally could be replaced by thousands of fucking actors and nobody would fucking know. Well, they would know their lines

so they would recognize the difference. But this motherfucker gets to keep fucking going. And it's, and again, Jim Cavizal is a product of a system that allowed him to exist and quite frankly, make maybe thousands of people uncomfortable.

Yeah. Deeply uncomfortable. And then also, I am also wondering and having read this whole thing, what fucking crimes has this guy committed that we don't know about? Yeah, how many people are sitting on stories just like this or worse?

So this guy is really, like, of the people that I've known in Hollywood and heard about, this guy is a level of disturbing that I just, I have a real hard time wrapping my brain around. But then, again, that always comes down with these Q people. It's just so fucking hard to get in there

and be like, how is this happening? What they've means by that is right into your local, studios. We've got infidel coming out. We've got Sound of Freedom. We got the second. Jesus won. Everybody right in in big Christian letterhead and let's get this fucking going. And keep in mind, everyone I interviewed almost or consistently brought up that this was not the worst guy at all, like that there were other people that were way worse than him throughout their career. So we're not just dealing with a red flag here on Kavisel. We're dealing with a red flag on the fact that Kavisel is like

nowhere near their worst experience, especially in the area of sexual predation. Right. So, I mean, look at the guy who didn't hire him on a show. Where's he now? Well, he's fucking gone for sexually harassing women for years, right? Moonbase, yeah. I mean, and again, this goes back to the grain of truth in Q is correct. Like, there are people that are just protecting each other and have each other's backs. I just feel like you hear a story like this and you just go, nobody cares about anything in Hollywood. There's no, there's no morality. nobody is actually protecting anyone. It's just all these sort of monsters out there because, yeah, there are worse people out there. I think for me, I can wrap my head around worse people.

I know what a rapist is. I have an understanding of what that guy is fucking doing. It's power and it's brutality, but what the fuck is this person? I think that this is maybe what separates him from a lot of these predators is that he really seems to believe this shit. Yeah.

Whereas the predators are just setting up circumstances in which they can, you know, act out what they want to act out, their beliefs are non-existence, whatever will serve the instance, whereas Jim is an idiot who gets in his own way in front of executives. He does stuff that's in Hollywood terms self-destructive, like there's no gain to going a so to like a fucking executive from the company that you're currently working on a project for. It is, he is a bit like maybe he, maybe in a way he reveals.

all of these monsters because he's the dumb one that let all this stuff leak out because he's just so bad at volition or just self-consciousness. So there's a possibility here that I just thought of, which is, I remember early out of my career I went to pitch a movie or something and everyone's like, well, you got to get Cameron Diaz for this. And I was like, she doesn't seem right for it. And they're like, well, she's one of six women that guarantee a profit. And I was like, that's so weird. Like, she's not that huge. And he's like, yeah, but she just connected internationally. we might not know

Cabizel's number and they attach a number to that like that person is guaranteed to bring it $100 million on any film you put them in with his Christian background and the stuff he's been doing he probably has a number

associated with him in which they know that that's guaranteed any film he's in will turn that number of Bacca's dollars out yeah and he's no victim he's a multi-millionaire

from doing this he was estimated at the very released years ago as having a net worth of $25 million, and he also has people like Mel Gibson who made enough money that they can just kind of do their own project and keep playing the victim like, oh, people don't want me to do this because I showed the crotchety Jews like celebrating you know Christ's demise and close up because it was in one of the gospels. Yeah, you want to hear a really fucked up Gibson story that it's not that fucked up, but it plagues me to this day is I was working at Staples Center

when I first moved here and I worked in a suite. I was like a suite attendant guy and Mel Gibson left his camera, his video camera, in the suite. And I grabbed it and chased him down and gave it to him. And when I handed it to him, he said,

oh my God, I have like months and months of family home videos on this. Thank you. Oh, my God. It would have been a horror movie. That footage would have looked like Paranormal activity. Dave, thank you so much for joining us for this.

Where can people check out your work? The Dallup, of course, my podcast, I do with Gareth Reynolds, and then I guess that's it. I don't really have anything else right now. People should follow you, though. Are you Dave Anthony on Twitter? Yeah, I haven't been on Twitter in a while, though. Oh, that's too bad.

People are all vying for the experience of being blocked by you. how many can you block how many i once looked in it was like over 100 000 but that's because i have a i have a block list for nazis but um yes yeah and i guess that's it i'm on uh i'm on instagram i do some stuff over there at dave underscore anthony underscore perfect well thanks again for coming thanks for having me it's a great podcast i'd like to thank ali metzi for help with transcribing the interviews and the anonymous people who helped connect me to the sources in the first place. Finally, I'd like to thank the three people who generously shared their experiences with me. Thanks for listening to another episode of the QAnonananonymous podcast. Please go to patreon.com

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And I see it in the church. Oh, my God, everywhere. The bishops. I'm a Roman Catholic. bishops, done nothing, top of pastors, priests, talk to them. I mean, there are just, but there are a few phenomenal ones. There are a few good coaches. My dad played for one, John Wood at UCLA, but you don't hear about it in the media. You hear about the corrupt ones. You hear about, and there's a lot of evil going on in the world, but there are a few of us that are doing the right thing.

That's what my call was. Thank you.