QAA Podcast - Episode 175: Attending the Arizona Trump Rally

Episode Date: January 22, 2022

Jim Watkins threatened to punch Travis at the Trump rally in Florence, Arizona. He later apologized. Also present: members of the 'Negative 48' QAnon cult based out of Dallas, who hung out with now-congressional-candidate Ron Watkins. It looks like QAnon is an integral part of the MAGA movement's lifeblood. ↓↓↓↓ SUBSCRIBE FOR $5 A MONTH SO YOU DON'T MISS THE SECOND WEEKLY EPISODE ↓↓↓↓ https://www.patreon.com/QAnonAnonymous Our first QAA records release: 'Hikikomori Lake' by Nick Sena is available to listen for free at http://qaarecords.bandcamp.com (12 original tracks) QAA Merch / Join the Discord Community / Find the Lost Episodes / Etc: https://qanonanonymous.com Episode music by Nick Sena (https://www.nicksenamusic.com), editing by Corey Klotz.

What's up QAA listeners? The fun games have begun. I found a way to connect to the internet. I'm sorry, boy. Welcome listener to Chapter 175 of the Q&ONANANANANANANIS podcast, the Arizona Trump Rally episode. As always, we are your host, Jake Rockatansky, Julian Fields, and Travis Vue. This week, we're back to our favorite work, wandering out,

into the 3D world to attend conspiracy theory events. With me still imprisoned in Bermuda, and Jake preparing for a wedding, Travis canceled all his Metaverse concerts and headed east to Florence, Arizona, where the first Trump rally of 2022 was being held. He did so armed with the knowledge that Q&on father-son tag team, Jim and Ron Watkins, would be in attendance, along with members of the JFK Jr. obsessed negative 48 cults. Some of them presumably driving or flying all the way from Dallas, to bestow Gametria on fellow patriots.

Headlining the event, of course, was Donald Giotis Trump, who shared the bill with red-pilled politicians like Wendy Rogers and Paul Gozar, and even one of the cyber ninjas behind the Arizona audit. But what Travis could not have predicted was that Jim Watkins, owner of 8 Chan, now 8 Coon, would threaten to punch him as soon as they came into contact,

nor that this would lead to a deep and intimate friendship between the two men, profoundly changing the course of both of their lives. lives. Travis, if I understand correctly, Jim, who once called us, quote, those three homosexuals helped you write this episode? Yeah, this is why this episode is going to feature an unusual amount of swears, slurs, and yoga instruction. So this is looking forward to that. Thank you so much for your help writing this episode, Jim. Yeah. Thank you, Jim. You really opened our eyes to why certain historic genocides are maybe actually good. So we'll be inserting all of your

great ideology and ideas into this. But also, yeah, basically, Travis went in. He wasn't expecting drama, and you'll hear in his voice, but he got it. He certainly got the drama. No, I actively tried to avoid drama. It bores me. Yeah, Travis is a drama-free bitch. He's not a messy bitch like me. So, yes, I traveled to Arizona for Trump's first rally for the new year. Uh, the actual rally itself took place in Florence, Arizona, which is about 60 more. miles southeast of Phoenix. The venue is the country thunder festival grounds, which is this large dirt lot surrounded by just miles and miles and miles of empty desert. It was actually quite eerie and lonely. So, yeah. That explains the insane winds that seemed to be like

flapping every flag, uh, at least until later when Trump, uh, kind of landed and the winds quieted down. The storm cleared for him. Yes, yes. It was, it was at some points it was like very, very breezy, which honestly sometimes made difficult to even get good recording. But yeah, so it was interesting times. So I think that my big lesson for my experience is that like Q&on is like in the bloodstream of the MAGA movement now. And that I used to like tried like make a distinction between like weird fringe Qaeda and like mainstream MAGA. If you remember back in 2018, the organizers of Trump rallies, you know, after a few incidents, they made efforts to force Qaeda. On followers to discard their Q merchandise before they got inside the venue.

They didn't want, you know, their, their MAGA events sort of infected by QAnon. But that's not the case anymore. So now, now, like, you know, post-insurrection, like QAnon theories, they're wedded to, like, MAGA narratives. And Q&N followers and enablers can be found both in the crowd and on the stage right before Trump speaks. So this is just, it's not like a separate thing anymore. QAnon has just fully been absorbed into the MAGA world. By the time I had arrived at the festival grounds in Florence, some die-hard Trump supporters had already been there for days.

Among them was the negative 48 cult led by Michael Brian Protsman. Now, Protsman is an anti-Semitic Nazi sympathizer with a history of domestic abuse who leads followers through Gametria, which is like a kind of like numerology. We've discussed it before. It is some weird brain-melting stuff, and I don't like it very much at all. Now, you may recall that the negative 48 cult is the one that went to Dallas last November and waited in Daly Plaza for the arrival of JFK and JFK Jr.

And when the Kennedys did not arrive, the group continued to occupy Dallas. On Twitter, Twitter user 22 underscore Karma has continued to closely follow their online activity, and it's still pretty disturbing, and she does great work. It was reported last month that members of a negative 48 cult were drinking a chemical cocktail that contains the quack miracle cure chlorine dioxide. The Dallas reporter reported that people in Dallas were drinking this toxic substance from a communal bowl, like it was punched at a party, just communal bleach, basically. Everyone take a sip from the bowl of bleach.

Yeah. Awful stuff. Now, one thing I will mention is that, you know, the, like old, Trump events. I guess it was an extremely sort of merch oriented event, you know, like there was, you know, just lots and lots of merch vendors. And I rolled up and I was just wearing like a long sleeve shirt and I was wearing jeans. And merch vendors saw me as a mark because they saw me as like naked. They're like, oh, man, we need to get you a hat. We need to get you a shirt or something. Because really, if you are not covered, if you don't have something that says Trump, if you don't have

something that says, let's go Brandon, then you really stick out, which. You know, I did. So this time you didn't go for the merch? No, I didn't go for the merch. Well, you know, here's the thing. I actually, there's like, I did spot just for the sake of our collection. For the sake of history and memorabilia, there was a Q bumper magnet being sold. I noticed that the amount of Q merch available was fairly limited.

Mostly it was like, you know, basic Trump merch or it was, you know, fuck Joe Biden or let's go Brandon merch that was extremely popular lots and lots of cheeky let's go brandon sort of uh uh shirts and hats and buttons and stuff so yeah that's that's they're real only thing i got was like the cue sort of bumper magnet it was it was fun because like it was very it has very cardval barker atmosphere because they're like you know there are all these people who are like a lot of the merch vendors i seem seem to be actually be fairly apolitical like it says they're they're just they're just they're trying to draw people in it was uh you know very interesting atmosphere. So while at this event, I ran into the negative 48 cult member, Mickey Larson Olson. And

Mickey Larson Olson is impossible to miss. She's very recognizable. She can be spotted wearing a red, white, and blue body suit. And it has a big cute right on the chest that's surrounded by a star. She wears an American flag jacket and large like captains like M. Bison hat. It's just massive. Yeah, she looks like a superhero. Like, she is fully, like, in the Marvel Q&ON Extended Universe. And she also has, of course, she has the red thigh-high boots and also like a red, white, and blue wig. I mean red, I mean, like, cherry red. So, of course, in addition of that, she drives a red convertible Mazda that she calls her QMobile.

And this QMobile is covered inside and out with QD cows. And this includes the windshield, which is. is so covered in Q&on-related stickers that seems to be unsafe to drive. I would not feel comfortable behind the wheel of this thing, because my vision would be so blocked. Yeah, and, I mean, it is so confusing, because it feels like some of it is on the outside, right? So can you even use the wipers? Wouldn't it fuck up all your decals? Does she have to kind of hand scrub this thing?

Or what happens if it rains? That is an excellent question. But, yeah, she's in the negative 48 crew. She was in Dallas, and, yeah, her car has Cupatriot on it. does hold the line. It has a lot of smaller as some, it has a Trump,

JFK Jr. 2021 sticker. And to be clear, she has gone, she has gone as far as making the seat belt kind of cover sleeves. It printed with Q and on stuff.

It says where we go on, we go all across your chest when you drive this thing. Or if you're, I guess, a passenger. Yeah, I saw inside,

actually, her, um, her like, her like, her like, uh, floor mats,

her like driver's side floor mats. Even though has a where we go one, we go all on. it. So you would even see that from the outside. So this just inside and out, just totally covered. Bizarre to see. But so Mickey Larson Olson, as she is quick to remind people, she's both an Iraq war veteran and she's a criminal defendant for her participation in the events at the Capitol on January 6th. Yes, I'm Master Sergeant Retired Mickey Lynn Larson, Iraq War veteran, author of a poem called We're Ready to Fight. I'm also a January 6th defendant. They put a charge on

me January 20th and I still have that charge. My next remote hearing is January 20th. So they didn't want this costume, this Q-Mobile, my Q's songs, and this poem, they didn't like me handing this, we're ready to the troops in D.C. They didn't like it. So what they did, they pressed charges against me on January 19th for unlawful entry to Capitol Grounds.

I was not on the Capitol. What it was was I refused to walk down from the stairs. They tapped me on the shoulder and they said, ma'am, it's time to go after they gassed us. I said, I'm not going anywhere. I latched my thigh-high red boots around the scaffolding and my arm around behind me, and it took six Capitol police to pry me down.

And then one of them threatened me twice. She said, do you want me to pepper spray you? I laughed at her face. I said, I am an Iraq war veteran. There is nothing you can do to me. I haven't been through already. You could shoot me dead for all I care, but I'm not walking. At that time, I truly believed Ashley Babbitt was gone.

So anyway, but... We support you, Mickey. Thank you, dear. I appreciate it. God bless you. I want you to... I'm going to send you with my poem, y'all. And Melania gave it a heart.

General Lynn recently signed it for me in Dallas. I did miss that she has a sticker on her car. says, my favorite sailor calls me mom? Yeah. I'm assuming that, so it's like a generation of troops. Sounds like it. Yeah, she served in the Air Force herself. But, yeah, it sounds like she's a military family.

And also, I mean, Travis, I could barely hear it, but I think you said I've already got one when she was handing out her poem. Yeah, I was already, I had been chatting with her a while. before some other people had gathered to also gawk at her kumobile. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like a nice car.

You know, I don't know why you'd want to gunk it up with all those stickers and stuff. It's going to be really hard to get off when you want to resell it, maybe. Yeah, that roof goes down fine, too. Like, it's fully functional. You can cruise with the top off. So, yeah, according to Mickey Larson, her car was vandalized while she was in jail for, you know, her participating in January 6th.

And she blamed this vandalization on the media. for demonizing Q. Now, while I was speaking to her, she referred to Q as this letter. And they want you to believe this, after 21 years of honorable service, that nearly got blown to bits twice in Iraq, they want you to believe I'm a traitor and a terrorist.

And because they, the media, what they did was my car was keyed in D.C. on the 9th. And when I was in jail, on the 19th, I got out. They took a knife to the hood of my car, and then they sliced two of our tires and put a screw in one. Because the media is the enemy of the people, and they convinced everybody that I'm a traitor and a terrorist because of this letter. They don't like this letter. What does that letter mean to you? Truth.

Truth. Not my truth. Not anybody else's truth. It's about owning your own truth. So Q is a military information dissemination operation That was necessary because the media is bought up by six corporations And they meet up and they That's why so much it's called Operation Mockingbird Yeah And they sound all the same

Like you'll see and they say the same odd thing all day Because they get talking points at 4 o'clock in the morning What they're allowed to talk about and what they're not And they're all owned and they're all corrupt And so Q was essential to get the message out to the people using people like me.

Travis is just incredible. Now, while speaking to her, she also told me about Gematria, whatever the hell you call it. And while explaining this to me, come on, it's Gametria. God's damn it, man.

Who gives a shit? Who gives... Okay, fine, whatever. We've lost him. He's gone. I know. He's gone. The pronunciation on this G is of all the mental fortitude that Travis has cultivated in the last

four years. This soft G or hard G is just the final straw that broke the Travis's back. Travis, say it with me, Gay Matrix. So while she was explaining this to me, she claimed that someone killed her dog, which was named Liberty, for some reason. Do you know anything about Yamato? You know what? Actually, I know a little action. About A is one, B is two, C is it? So if you know anything about Jumatra, zero means nothing. 6.6 is freedom. So if you take all the letters in the word freedom and you assign the numbers to him based on where they are in the alphabet,

it totaled 66. So they killed freedom. And then they killed my dog Liberty. Behind my house. Oh. In the alley behind my house, they killed my dog Liberty. And the guy said he thought she was, a pothole. It was broad daylight. She was an overweight black lab. And he was driving on.

Well, I was talking to Mickey Larson Olson. She also got to like sovereign citizen stuff. And one tenant of sovereign citizen beliefs is that the United States ceased to be a republic in 1871 when it became a corporation. Some Q&N followers took this a step further to claim that Trump somehow restored the republic and therefore all laws and presidents after 1871 were all null and void. And in Larson Olson's telling, this meant that Trump was now the 19th president and the living JFK Jr. is the 19th vice president. She told me this while talking about her belief that JFK Jr. followed her on Twitter. And I had wanted him to know I had just woke up, right? So I put my hair up in a ponytail, I put my heart-shaped flag sunglasses on my

Trump hat, and when my USA room took a picture. And he said, good morning, Patriot, beautiful smile and shirt. Have a great day. And that day, JFK Jr. started following me on Twitter. And yes, he's still alive, and he's your 19th vice president of our republic. Our country was stolen from us in 1871, and we were made of corporation. We have dual governments going on right now, and the corporation's done for. So hang in there, everybody. Awesomeness is coming. And I know that sounds crazy, but you're going to find out.

I'm not lying. I have no reason to lie. Yeah, she was very enthusiastic, despite seeming to be kind of self-aware about how she sounded. I think that the most kind of successful, cute on people at just maintaining their belief system are the endless positivists. People who really have a kind of cheerful approach to everything and see the silver lining, even when the clouds are dark and full of water. Yeah. I would agree. You don't find too many doomers that are, you know, public-faced. sort of Q and on influencers or kind of, you know, many celebrities within that movement.

Everybody's kind of, yeah, they're kind of just always positive, you know, the storm is just around the corner. JFK Jr. is just around the corner from revealing himself. It's all, it's going to be fucking great. It's going to be great. Don't you worry. I mean, I guess we do repeat this a lot, but it's worth repeating again. This is the state of a lot of Christians in America who believe.

believe that Jesus is right about to come back. Like, it is spoken about in the same endless rolling date, impending doom slash impending utopia terms that we hear repeated throughout the Q movement. Now, I think it's also worth talking about the whole sovereign citizen thing because Mickey Larsson Olson is hardly the only Q&N promoter to embrace sovereign citizen beliefs. Now, it's actually part of like a long, longstanding mesh between Q&N and sovereign citizens. Recently, Q&L promoter and Vandersteele appeared on Joe Olbin's podcast, and while there, she said that she was an American state national. She claims that this means that she didn't have to pay taxes, and her votes somehow had the power of four votes. Of course, this is all pseudolaw and nonsense, and it appears...

Wait a minute. This sounds like playground logic. We're like, well, I get four votes. I'm four votes then. Dude, this is like, yeah, at the end of an article. You know, this one trick can make your vote worth four times more and you can stop paying taxes. It's, yeah, the weird sovereign citizen thing, they always, I mean, they believe in the, if you say the right magic legal words, then you can sort of like, you know, be free of all legal consequences and never have to pay taxes and get the feds off your back. But it just doesn't work like that.

Yeah. When the IRS shows to your door, you just go, this is not the patriot you're looking for. And it works. Yeah. So it appears that Vander Steele got these nonsense ideas. is from a sovereign citizen guru named Bobby Lawrence. But here's what Van der Seale said in a clip that was flagged by right-wing watch. I decided to become an American state national.

Joe, you've heard me talk about this a little bit on the health and freedom tour, but I decided that the 14th Amendment citizenship, the federal citizenship of a bankrupt corporate entity known as the United States, you know, there's a lot of things people may or may not understand that some people have heard about the act of 1871 and all this stuff. The truth of the matter is there is a United States and the federal government is part of a municipal, a corporate entity that was part of Washington, D.C., that was only supposed to be Washington, D.C. 10 square miles. But the 14th Amendment basically hijacked all of the state's sovereignty and made anybody who opted into Social Security, a 14th Amendment federal citizen. Therefore, you've exchanged your Godgiven rights, your Bill of Rights, and you've exchanged them for government privileges, the privilege. to get welfare, the privilege to get student loans, to get Social Security, to get

health care, all this stuff that are Constitution. So you don't have to pay Social Security? You don't have to pay Social Security anymore? You don't have to pay FICA? I don't have to pay into it anymore. I don't have to pay income taxes, personal income taxes anymore because... Can you get all your money out that you put in? Yes, you can. I put a lot of money in. Yeah. I put a lot of money into the system over the last, you know, 25 years. Yes, you can, Joe. Yes, you can. You get anything you put in, you put in,

You get out. You get out. Fascinating. Can you still run for office? Yeah. You can absolutely still run for office. In fact, you can still vote. You vote as a delegate, which as the power of four votes. Dude. Joe Altman is a cretan of the first order. But even he tilted his head in disbelief when she said the four vote thing. He was down when she said that he could literally demand the IRS return anything he's paid into the social system that he has undoubtedly received, you know, services from.

variety of things. But yeah. And what does Anne Vandersteel think she's done? Like, has she written, like, a note for herself? Like, what process does she think she's gone through? I think the event that she's gone through is known as a concussion. What happened to her partner, Bill Mitchell? He is notoriously absent from the, you know, Q&ON sort of video circuit in this last year, really. He hooked up with Gary Busey and hasn't been seen since they were at that crocodile cafe

off the coast of Florida. Well, I guess that explains it. I'm sure he's on telegram. I'll bet he's on telegram. I'm sure. I can't imagine that he would ever stop posting because, man, that guy was a maniac. Yeah.

So, yeah, back to Mickey Larson Olson. So before I left my discussion with her, she explained why the Rolling Stones were actually dead and they were replaced by celebrities we think are dead. And this can be proven by watching a concert video footage of their performance in Dallas.

All right. Thank you, Travis. Sure thing. God bless you, but don't be surprised because we're not lying when we say at the Rolling Stones concert in Dallas. Yeah. Michael Jackson and Prince were both Mick Jagger. They're all dead because they were evil people. Okay?

And I know that sounds crazy, but I want you to look at some video. Okay. I want you to go to YouTube. Okay. Mick Jagger is an ugly SOB, but they made Michael Jackson's mask even uglier. Oh, my God. I want you to watch closely at the man's movements. You ever seen Mick Jagger do the moonwalk?

I haven't, though. You ever seen Mick Jagger play the guitar? I don't think I have, no. Can you ask me why after he's been in the music business for all these years? He's never once played with the guitar, but yet he'd come out and played it like he'd been playing it. forever. You know why? Why? Because that was Prince. Wow.

I want you to look closely. You will see those are two clearly different people. Okay? Watch the video on YouTube of the concert. You will clearly see those are two different people. Okay? And

Elvis Presley is Bob Joyce. He is a pastor out of Arkansas and he was playing the keyboards at the Rolling Stones concert. And JFK Jr. Yes, JFK Jr., Yes, JFK Jr. very, very, very much alive. I was one of 104 people used to follow on Gap.

Okay, this rocks because she has the tone of a parent explaining what's in your gifts to the child when the child is crying on Christmas morning. Do you know, it's like, no, you don't, it's going to be odd. Everything's going to be so. And she's genuinely kind to you. She's like, Travis, you're going to have so much fun once you realize that Mick Jagger's actually prints. We're all going to have so much fun.

Yeah. And I believe her. I believe her, Travis. You could have fun. I'm listening. You know, I'm sure it's fun to believe in absolute reality-defying nonsense. I refuse to participate despite that. But yeah, she was, you know, she was very gregarious. You know, obviously she had this sort of unrelenting positivity despite, like she said, her hearing for her involvement in January 6th being imminent. So yeah, yeah, she was interesting. interesting woman. Yeah, the people who have been proven to be dead are not dead, and the people who have very many videos of them being very much alive are dead. Yeah. Yeah, I was not really that familiar with the Rolling Stones or Mick Jagger, I have to say, so I checked under a claim. Apparently, well, of course, Keith Richards is the lead guitarist for the Rolling Stones. Mick Jagger reportedly got his first guitar at age 14, and he was first credited as a guitarist for Rolling Stone songs for the, for their 1971 album, Sticky Fingers.

So if you, if you Google Mick Jagger guitar, you can see many photos going back decades of Mick Jagger playing the guitar. Oh, no, no, that's actually the Puddle of Mud singer who went back in time. Okay. Yeah, exactly. Because Puddle of Mud, as we all know, Christian band. And what do we know about Christians? Good, ability to time.

Ability to time travel. God damn it, you ruined my joke by coming. up with a better one you son of a bitch um oh Travis this is so delightful I mean you know what yeah I'm having I'm having fun again there is something to like there's two choices when you're up against the wall and you know things are are in a crisis you're getting less opportunities you're coming to like an existential breakdown almost and you want to do something one of them is having a shit ton of fun and these people are definitely those people unfortunately right now they I mean they pay the price for sure but I mean you this kind of positivity is

impossible to find elsewhere except with people totally detached from reality I wonder what that means it's always been that though I mean that was the appeal of of the whole sort of like Trump thing it was like hey you get to cast your your fears about the future of America yada yada yada aside and just have a big party for four years I mean that was the vibe you know I remember, like, very early on when I was, you know, shortly after the election, and I was looking in two subreddits. It was our politics, and then there was The Donald, and our politics was just rife with infighting and, uh, criticisms and, you know, what have you. And then you go over to the Donald that it was like a 100% party all the time. I mean, you can see why people, you know, who even might not be.

particularly political, we're like, ah, I choose this reality where everybody's drinking beers and, you know, the world is saved as opposed to these people that are drinking coffees and the world is doomed. So true. Ron Watkins, the former 8-Coon administrator and prime suspect for being one of the main people behind Q was also in attendance at this Trump rally. And you also may recall that Ron Watkins did a lot to fuel the stop-the-steal narratives, made bogus accusations against dominion voting systems.

He encouraged people to travel to D.C. on January 6th. He was retweeted by then-President Trump several times before they both had their Twitter account suspended. However, Ron's reason for attending this rally was to promote his candidacy for office. He is running for Congress in Arizona. He, along with his father, a coon owner, Jim Watkins, they're handing out signs that said CMZ Army on one side. And CMZ is short for the Ron Watkins pseudonym CodeMonkey. Z. And on the opposite side of these signs, it simply said Trump won. So they were out promoting themselves. Oh, cool. So it doesn't matter then if Ron wins or loses because he'll win.

Yep. All he has to do is just write it on the back of a side. Oh, my God. When Ron Watkins finally loses, can you imagine the conspiracy theories that he's going to come up with? It's going to rock. Now, I was able to speak to Ron very briefly, but he was honestly pretty busy. I mean, there were lots of news outlets from international news outlets, including who wanted to speak to him. He was also being treated like a rock star from like the many Trump supporters around. I imagine it's because of his promotion of the Stop the Steel narratives, at least that's my guess. They're fist bumping him. They're taking pictures with them.

But no, he was having a good time. He was, he was being treated like a celebrity. And he gave me time for two questions. So first I asked about his validation of the identity of Q on A. Chan and like, you know, this is one of the biggest evidence that he's, you know, deeply involved in Q and non. So, yeah, normally on image boards when your, like, password is, like, cracked or leaked for your trip code, you have no way of recovering your identity. But Q's password was leaked and hacked, you know, several times, which essentially required Ron to personally verify who the supposed real Q was. He just said that, like, well,

someone asked him to identify who the real Q was, and he did so, and he didn't elaborate much, honestly. And secondly, I asked him about, okay, what was his main issue for Congress? How would he represent his constituents, you know, if he's serious about this, if he were elected. And I naively thought that this question would result in a poorly thought of answer, maybe a trolling answer, or an answer that revealed his conspiratorial thinking. Instead, he told me that his number one issue was water rights for Native Americans, which I thought, oh, Travis, I'm sorry to announce, but that was a troll. Yeah, I was like, what?

I mean, yes, you're right, that was a troll. I thought, well, gee, well, goddamn, that's a surprising, thoughtful answer. But that was just the answer he gave me. When he was asked a similar question later that evening on the live chat, he said that his number one issue was human trafficking. Well, there you go. Perfect. Great.

Okay. What is your main topic that you like to discuss? Oh, yeah. Thank you for that. What you said was very interesting. And right now, I'm running in Arizona District number two, which is the northern part of Arizona. And there is a big human trafficking problem out there, especially on the indigenous people's reservations. Wow.

This is, like, crafted by the most, the biggest troll ever. Yeah, this is so evil. It's just like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you, by the way, for this, Ron. Yeah, yeah.

So it sounds like he's maybe a little savier than I gave him credit for. He's able to, like, tailor his answer very carefully. depending upon who the audience is. Now, during the event, Ron Watkins also rubbed shoulders with members of the negative 48 cult. He took a photo with them, which was a post online. However, during a live chat after the rally with Q&M promoter Tommy Numbers, Ron said that he wasn't very familiar with Gametria, which caused Tommy to explain it to him.

No, I don't know much about Gametri. I don't really follow that very closely. So if you could explain it to me, that would be really great because these days a lot of people are bringing up Gematria and I just don't know what it is, honestly. Okay. Well, so Jamachia, Ron, there's a few methods, there's a few versions of Jamatra,

but the one that I use primarily is called simple Jamatra. And quite simply, I think it's probably the most beautiful, but it is the most simple. And you'll know this with math. There's a lot of beauty and simplicity. but obviously complexity as well, you know, the paradox of those things. But so A is the first letter of the alphabet, so therefore equals one, B is the second letter of the alphabet, therefore equals two, C is three, D is four, etc. All the way through to Z or Z in English in England is 26.

And then you get the chance to add up the numerical value of words, places, names, book titles, Patriots names, addresses, anything that comes to minority, President Trump's phrases, the things that he uses, cue posts, things in the community, things in the Patriot movement, and the truth of movement. Okay, but how do numbers work then? If it just goes one to 26 with the letters, how does it, how do numbers apply to that system? So, yeah, we watched nearly this entire thing, me and Jake last night, and it was just like so clear that Ron wanted to basically make Tommy feel bad. And so he just kept pressing him on, like, technical things around this thing, which he could have looked up the Wikipedia of. It's pure bad faith. He was asking questions like,

uh, how many hours a day would you say that you spend, uh, thinking about numbers? Yeah, stuff like that. Like, it was just, it was, it was, it was pretty sad. I don't know. Tommy looked like he had eaten a bad batch of shrimp. Yeah, Tommy. I was Tom, I was team Tommy the entire time because it was, you know, here is one of Tommy's heroes, you know, somebody who he believes is, you know, heavily involved, you know, at the very least knows who Q is. And here he is on his live stream, you know, conversation with the man himself. And he had to spend most of his time kind of explaining and defending why he did what he did. There was a moment in the conversation where Ron was like, so what's the meaning of all this? Like, and so the number, letters, you know,

match up to numbers. And then what's, the sort of meaning of it all. Yeah. It just felt like a cruel, it felt like what it was. Yeah, it felt cruel. A cruel person, kind of exploiting the fact that the other person is a little off, let's put it that way, and just kind of dialing in on like where he can make that person squirm the most.

But I guess that's what you get for being an ally of Ron Watkins. Of course, at the event was also Jim Watkins, owner of Aitkoons. So I introduced myself and I shook his hand and I said that I was trawark. View from the QAnon anonymous podcast. And Jim responded by exploding with rage at me, which kind of surprised me. Now, I assume Jim Watkins didn't like me, which is fine, but only in the sense that he doesn't like any journalist. Like, if you watch the HBO documentary Q into the storm, you'll see that Jim Watkins has a sit-down interview with Daily Beast reporter Will Somer. And Jim Watkins obviously doesn't like the Daily Beast or Will Somer, but he's capable of, like,

talking to him, like, in complete sentences and without, you know, squaring a lot. But when I approach Jim, here's the very first thing that he said to me. You want to get puns? Get the fuck out of my pace. Do I do something to a fuck off? You haven't fucked off yet? I guess I haven't. How do I wash you off my hair?

Fuck off, you motherfucker. Have I done? You are the dumbest shit-ass motherfucker in the United States. You are an absolute shit-ass. Why is that? Look at you. You look like a shit-ass. Fuck off.

You are unwanted here. Well, I would say that Travis does not look like a shit-ass. Well, that's my second. This is the second opinion. I was like, I was pretty bewildered. I was not expecting that reaction. So after this, this, he, He wanted to get some help abusing me.

So he perceived to point me out to the mass of Trump supporters that surrounded us in an attempt to, you know, incite the crowd against me. Hey, guys, this is the guy that hates Trump right here. Then why are you here? He must love him. He is the Trump hater. Right here. Right here. His name's Travis U.

And he hates Trump. And he's here to cause trouble. He's here to cause trouble He hates Trump Sad, sad Yeah I like that he said that You know, I'm the Trump hater

I'm the guy who hates Trump Like I invented hating Trump I'm the guy who I'm the one person Who does that sort of thing Yeah, we all know you love Trump Everybody would love Trump If it wasn't for this one shit ass We'd be all having a great ass time out here

Okay on these stomping grounds But we got a shit ass to wash off our hands So a nearby woman, a spectator, he did Jim's message and asked if I was there to harass conservatives, which thought something I ever do. I'm always there to like learn, to observe. I can't do that and harass at the same time. Yeah, learn, listen. Learn, listen, and record. So you come out here to harass us as conservatives?

I didn't harass anyone. Why don't you just go on down the road? We're tired of y'all shit. All right. Goodbye. You're going to taste me? Felt. You know, how's life going? Good? Fuck up.

You deserve that one. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll let you have that one for free, Jim. How's your day going? You fucker. I think he said, how's life going? Yeah, how's life going? How's life? How's life going? But yeah, I mean, good on you, man. I mean, if I was in a crowd filled with Trump supporters and somebody was like, they hate Trump, and the, you know, the rabble, you know, started closing in around me, I mean, my shorts, they would have been swishing, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, no, Travis stuck around and that's when he asked if you were going to tase him. Did he, was he referring to your recorder? Yeah, he mistook my recorder. Yeah, I have a task camera. recorder. And he seems to have mistaken it for a taser. Oh. So yeah. So yeah, I did, I didn't move because I was, honestly, I was interested hearing what he had to say, you know, I figured, you know, the worst thing that could happen would be like I would be, you know, I mean, I either was, I wasn't really worried. I was like, number one, this is like an event in which the fucking, you know,

ex-president was attending. So security was ample. I had witnessed recently a, there was like, at the event, there was a woman who was, uh, who was walking around. with a Biden sign and causing trouble, and she was taken down by two sheriffs. So, obviously, any kind of, like, you know, conflict or harassment, they, they squashed down pretty quickly. I wasn't worried. And honestly, I think I could take Jim. Yeah, you're a bigger guy.

Yeah. I think that, you know, I have a few, I have a height advantage. I have an age advantage. I think I have a, he's obviously a little bit more fiery than I am. Yeah, he's got the rage. So, I don't know, you, it depends on what's your, you know, oftentimes that all, that comes down to, you know, who's going to win a fight, a physical fight, is, what's your rage index like?

Yeah, good point. How much, how angry are you inside and how, how ready are you to convert that rage into energy? Right. At the very least, I feel confident I could fend him off, you know, but, um, I would assume that you would have to kind of lower your center of gravity because he'd come low and try to flip you. Yeah.

Uh, so as long as you were able to do that. Yeah, he might know some like Krav McGraw or like, I don't know. I could imagine him and Ron kind of like, you know, sort of practicing martial arts or something together. So he might have a couple tricks up his sleeve. But look, it would be a fair fight. And I don't think you would have ended up getting truly hurt before, you know, somebody pulled it apart. What we don't know is that Jim has been using those little, like, wrist, like hand. What are those called?

Those little workout tools. So he has very powerful fists, but that's it. Also, Travis, the task cam is kind of like the Bible that stopped the body. bullet for you because maybe he would have punched you if he thought that you if he didn't think you could tase him yeah potentially never know yeah we'll see that taskam does look like a taser by the way if you don't really know what a taser or a task camp looks like you could you could honestly you know i i could see i could see that yeah you know i didn't really mind that like when jim wotkins was ranting against me but it's i was a little bothered by the fact that

this woman who learned about my existence two seconds earlier, decided that I was an evil presence need to be expelled. Be like, oh, what business is this of yours? Why you take it his side? You don't know this guy either. Yeah, and you know what? I don't have any Biden gear on. I'm not, I'm not simping for Biden.

Like, I'm just, you know, I'm wearing a button down shirt and some jeans in this taser. You don't know, but he had an ice cream cone in his hand. And he had sunglasses on. So Jim Watkins, he continued to rant at me. And it even got to the point that some people in Jim's entourage were attempting to calm him down. You are a big poop. Hey, Jim, it's okay, man. I know you're upset.

It's not okay. I know. This is a real fucker. This is a real fucker. And he goes like this to stay out of shit. In fact, he's been in jail. All right. Well, you're a criminal, you know that?

Do you realize he's been in jail in Riverside? I've never been in jail in Riverside. But where have you been in jail traffic? Never, I've never been arrested, you know, and even if I was, that wouldn't be evidence I actually committed a crime. So very, very strange. So I think, yeah, the jail and Riverside comment, I think that might be referring to the fact that I have received a speeding ticket in Riverside County, California. So if you use one of those online background check services, it might show up on my record. as an arrest miscategorized. It just categorizes like all criminal violations in the sort of the

same kind of way. So it seems as though what happened is that Jim Watkins is not only familiar with me. He looked in my background in an attempt to dig up dirt on me. And he, you know, he didn't do a very good job. But yeah, so weird. I mean, not to mention he uses your pseudonym when he calls you out in public. It would make you more embarrassed if he had switched to your real name. Yeah, that was weird too. The whole situation was weird. Yeah. I mean, you handled yourself, you know, pretty well, pretty impressive, you know, in the midst of, it's, you know, I imagine it's a kind of pretty uncomfortable situation. And I'm just, you know, can't hear it too well in the recording. But, you know, imagining that this whole thing is unfolding while this like patriotic sort of country song like blare's on in the background is just like very surreal and, uh, nightmarish. Yeah, it's a piece of art, actually. So after this, Jim Watkins threatened to harass me as long as I continue to attend the Trump rally.

You're not welcome. Everywhere you go, I will walk behind you while you're here and tell people who are going to enjoy it. You are going to enjoy it. You know why. And he knows why, because he's fucked with me online privately as an anonymous. And then he comes out publicly, and he's a shithead. You're an absolute shithead. Come on, Jim.

Is that true? Have you ever antagonized Jim online anonymously? No, no, no. That's, I have no idea what the hell he was talking about. I assume, yeah, I don't know if he, it's just weird because it's like, I assume that he doesn't like, you know, reporters or whatever, people who talk about him, but like a lot of people don't talk about him. I just don't, I don't understand what the hell is going on.

So, yeah, finally, some people who are. with Jim, they convinced them to just walk away from where I was. I was like, I was left there just baffled by like, it's not that I care whether or not Jim Watkins hates me. It's just why I specifically inspired this explosion was confusing to me. This is why I kept like asking him. Like, what the hell did I do? Right. Especially because in the past, I mean, you know, when we were at the Arizona rally in Scottsdale, the first sort of like big QAnon event that we went to that was like during COVID, from which the famous short swishing incident happened. You know, once we got outed, the Q&ON influencers were actually very interested to talk to us

about, you know, why we disliked it. They were actually pretty non-confrontational and I would say even friendly. So it is interesting to me what exactly it was that really sort of, you know, that he was so upset about. So, yeah, after this incident, actually, I continued to communicate. with him through an intermediary, because I wanted to know what the hell was going on. And I figured out that apparently Jim Watkins was under the false impression that I was involved in doxing and threatening his family members.

He claims that someone says that I was involved in doing this. This is what he says. He's an unreliable source. I don't know. I can't say for sure if this is true or whatever, but this is what he says. And listen, I've criticized Jim Watkins for lots of things. I've criticized him for owning an image board where multiple white nationalist mass shooters have posted their manifestos, which is unsurprising that that happened because 8chan's pollboard

was a haven for Nazis. The white nationalist manifesto instance is what caused cloud flare to deny the site services, which forced the site to shut down temporarily and then rebrand as 8Koon. And obviously, I've criticized Jim Watkins for Qadon, which he allowed to flourish on his site. He, through 8chan and 8Kun, he facilitated the destruction of many lives and the erosion of democracy. And I've criticized him for attempting to prosecute Frederick Brendan under bullshit cyber libel laws in the Philippines, forcing Fred to flee the country for fear of his life. Jim Watkins is responsible for a lot of pain and suffering, and I hope I've had some role in highlighting all of that. And if he hates me for saying those things, that's fine because I stand by those statements. And I think he has a lot to answer for.

But I don't docks and I don't threaten. I don't mess with someone's family members because of who they are. And after Jim seemed to understand that I wasn't involved in those particular things, he actually sent me a video apology. Oh, boy. Hey, superstar. I don't agree with you politically, but I shouldn't have gone off on you like that. It was a real misunderstanding. It seems like we're both victims of the same turkeys out there. I'm sorry. You can say that publicly. Hey, superstar.

Much better than shit ass. I know. Weird. I accepted his apology. Yeah, I also spoke to him in person afterwards in which he also apologized. And this, this is fine. I was like, I don't care about these clashes of personalities or drama and bullshit. And like, I was able to, like, I was willing to accept this apology because I wasn't

harmed by him blowing up at me. It didn't hurt me anyway. It's fucking fine. I don't give a shit. And blowing up at me is not the worst of his offenses. Well, it is. If you're a big fan, a big Travis fan right now, you're like, you're going to start like a hashtag kind of protect Travis, that kind of thing.

Yes, that's very nice, but I'm fine. Like I said, it didn't hurt me whatsoever. And he's heard other people more than me. I'll save that. Maybe we can help you recover memories of how this was actually a bigger deal. It wasn't a big deal. I'm fine. So, yes, that was that incident.

But I'm trying to understand this. So somebody told Jim that you were part of. a doxing operation and so that was the whole that was the whole thing and then he realized that you weren't a part of this yeah doxing and threatening specifically his family members i don't i don't know exactly what the hell is going on because i don't know what the hell he's talking about i'll even know if like the doxing and threatening of his family members even happened he hasn't provided the evidence of his claims but he turned around quite quickly once he became convinced that i wasn't involved in whatever doxing and threatening of his family

family he thought I was involved in. I'm interested in knowing who he thinks doxed him. Yeah. Or not only docks, docks his family, apparently. This is not, not him specifically. Yeah. Yeah, we do not, we do not docks on the Q&on Anonymous podcast. And you know what?

There have been Q&ONN supporters who are aware of our identities who have chosen not to docks as well. It's a mutual courtesy, I would say, because, you know, people's families, you know, you don't have a choice of who your family is. And, you know, I think that that's crossing a line. Yeah. You know, I think we've always believed that. So, yeah, I was surprised that that was even an accusation that was sort of hurled against you.

And you know what? I'm honestly, I'm glad it was cleared up so that you can attend more rallies and gain more, you know, information in the future without worried about being tailed, you know, by an angry group. of MAGA supporters. Also covering this event was the right side broadcasting network, who they basically cover all MAGA events. During their coverage of this event, one of their hosts interviewed a man who seemed to believe that California Governor Gavin Newsom was replaced with a body double. Well, Newsom's a clone, okay?

They just took him out. He had a puppet for the left. Well, he's a different level. You're right. But the real governor Newsom. has had his military tribunal and his Gitmo, and he's been executed. Okay?

There you go. Thank you for your time. Well, there you go. Well, there you go. I like the host, tried to clean it up and be like, oh, yeah, yeah, he's a puppet for the left. It's like, no, no, no, you understand. I think he's a physical clone.

And Gavin Newsom has been tried at Gitmo. You're not listening to me. During the right side broadcast, there's also a list of the names of contributors to the network scrolling in the bottom feed and some trickster, some troll, claimed that their name is Nassara Gassara, which caused Nassar to scroll on the screen for people who are watching. And if you listen to Our Dove of One this episode, you'll know that

Nassara is a set of proposed economic reforms that spawned a cult-like conspiracy theory, which believes that a secret law was passed or will be passed soon, which essentially makes everyone rich. So people who believe in Nassar think that what's the existence of this law is made public or known, that all debts will be forgiven. Everyone will have a ton of money. Universal economic prosperity will be here. Nothing about it makes sense. It's just basically the rapture for financially desperate people. Now, after the rally, a live chat with the negative 48 cult members included a woman who remarked on the Nassara Gassara scrolling across the screen. However, Michael Prontzman clarified that Nassar Gassara won't become a reality until the whole world knows that the living John F. Kennedy is president, and he signs it into law. When I was watching a rally on TV, one of the things that jumped out of me was scrolling across the bottom was Nassarajasara, and that's the first time I've seen that on public TV.

Yeah, it's, you know, I saw some people write up some stuff on it, like, it's actually here. It's not here. They're just seeing your consciousness. It's not going to happen. And I used to say John John because I didn't want to, you know, I scare too many people off by saying JFK, but I said it a couple different times, but most of the time I would just say until John John's in your face, but I'm telling you right now, Nasara-Disara is not going to go

until the whole world knows that JFK is the president, JFK is the vice president, and he is the one that's going to sign Nasara-Jasara and the law. That's when it's going to start. You know, it'll become more, law. I'm sure there's going to be some kind of time frame not too long before it all, you know, kicks in and takes effect. And, uh, that's when it's going to take place. That just, you know, gave me hope, you know, that we're moving in such a good direction.

Oh, we're moving in a good direction. Nothing can solve what's coming. And all banked, that's going to get wiped. He sounds kind of rough. Yeah. I mean, yeah, this kind of, this kind of proselytizing, uh, You know, it's a long game. And, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but Michael Protsman, I mean, becoming the sort of center of a group that you are with 24-7, that you're proselytizing to 24-7. COVID's going around. Nobody's vaccinated. I mean, it's got to be exhausting. So after spending many hours in the Arizona sun and getting, you know, berated by Jim Watkins, eventually it came time for the event itself.

And there's a long line. We were all, you know, sort of inspected by a secret service. And we finally got to the big speakers area. And before Trump came on, there were several speakers, many of whom had some kind of QAnon connection. The first speaker was Kelly Ward, the chair of the Arizona Republican Party. She had an important message to convey. She said that Trump won the 2020 election, but despite that, it was important to go out and vote.

Who won the election? You're right. Trump won. Trump won. And we are here. We are gathered with our fellow patriots who believe in faith, family, and freedom, who are never going to stop, right? We are never going to stop. We are never going to stop fighting for what's right.

And I have to tell you this. Please, please go out and vote. because in 2016 there was cheating but guess what we deplorables we people who love this country overwhelmed their cheating algorithm and we've got to do it again in 2022 2024 and beyond oh yeah get rid of dominion she wasn't the first nor would she be the last but she is toasty. I think they were all, a lot of the speakers were having a drinky poo. Yeah, yeah. I was, always thought, like, no, how do you reconcile, you know, people who believe that elections are fraudulent, but also believe that it's important to go out in vote. And I think maybe I just

underestimate their ability to have two contradictory ideas at once. In their minds, whenever the Republicans lose is because of fraud. And whatever Republicans win, there's also fraud, but somehow their votes are so powerful it overcomes the fraud um yeah so it's it's weird as bizarre is fucking insane it's insane that like here more than a year out of january 6th of the same we're hearing the same rhetoric that inspired that the same kind of like you know um belief that you know the democratic process is essentially wholly fraudulent and therefore you know basically democracy is a sham and shouldn't be trusted and you know it's like it makes me worried because like you know We're going to see we away the election this year, and we might see more bad stuff happen this

year or later because of this kind of rhetoric. The next speaker was MyPillowel, Mike Lindell, who of course also was instrumental in spreading lies about election fraud. Mike Lindell was in the news recently because the election software company Smartmatic filed a defamation lawsuit against him. I read that lawsuit, and I got to say, I'm not 100% sure that smart. Artmatic appreciates how genuinely radicalized Mike Lindell is. So here's from the intro of that lawsuit.

Crazy like a fox. Mike Lindell knows exactly what he is doing, and it is dangerous. Mr. Lindell knows Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for president and vice president of the United States. He knows the election was not rigged, fixed, or stolen. He knows voting machines did not switch votes from former President Trump to now President Biden. These facts do not matter to Mr. Lindell because he knows he.

can sell. Mr. Lindell knows he can sell xenophobia. He knows he can sell conspiracy theory. He knows he can sell a preconceived story about voting machines stealing democracy by stealing votes from a president who is incredibly popular with millions of Americans. And of course, Mr. Lindell, the My Pillow guy, knows he needs to sell pillows to keep and increase his fortune. Yeah, no, no, no way. Crazy like a fox, nope, no. Please, Jesus Christ, what? I know. I know. I don't agree with the premise that I think that Mike Lindell is really far down the rabbit hole, really believes what he's saying, and really thinks he has evidence of election fraud, even though he doesn't. He has one of those minds that, you know, just only accepts evidence of what he wants to

believe and does not allow evidence what he does not want to believe. But maybe, I mean, I'm not a lawyer. Maybe the, the, they have to frame Mike Lindell's actions this way in order to have a successful suit. I don't know. Right. I imagine. it would be hard, you know, it's harder to prove in court of saying, well, he did all these things because he is a true believer, you know, that would open the field for the defense to say like, yeah, he didn't, he wasn't doing anything wrong because he really believes this stuff, you know, it makes things messy, maybe. Yeah, this is kind of the assumption that your enemy is powerful just because you keep

losing over and over. It's like, no, no, no, you're just so bad at this that the my pillow guy has become a thorn in your side. At the Trump rally, Mike Lindell said that after the events of January 6th, no one would like his posts on Facebook, which he initially interpreted as Facebook censoring him. No one would call. No, he's fucking calling me. No one would call. But I want to tell you, I'm going to take us back a year ago and why we're so much better off today.

A year ago, when that happened, after that happened and the media started attacking me, I'd put something on. Facebook, I thought Suckabuk was just a deep lap for me, but none of my friends would like anything. I call them. They wouldn't answer the phone. Everybody was in fear. Remember, across the country, it was after January 6th. Everybody was in fear. And I just kept going. They kept losing plastic, you know, losing box stores and stuff. And I would, and I'm going, but we have evidence. This was stole. We got to save our country. We were attacked. So he admits that it's not actually Facebook censoring him. It's that, well, he believes that people were scared to like his comments.

Yes. I thought it was just a funny sort of it was like, I thought that, you know, I thought that, you know, Facebook Zuckabuck was like censoring me. It turns out I was just radioactive. Turns out like, nobody would pick up my calls. When I posted that the Labrador is my favorite kind of dog, everybody was piling in to say I'm great. But now that I said that I ate my own feces on my lawn and enjoyed it, nobody wants to like my posts. The next speaker was Arizona Representative Sonny Borelli. Borelli attended the Q&ON conference in Las Vegas, the Patriot Double Down.

At this event, Borelli used his time to defend Cyber Ninjas, the firm that conducted the fruitless audit in Maricopa County. It was recently announced that Cyber Ninjas is shutting down. Rod Thompson, a representative for Cybernjas, said, quote, $2 million in debt from the Arizona audit and endless legal. and character attacks on the company by those who oppose the audit make it untenable moving forward. And, you know, despite that, and despite the fact that Cyber Ninjas did not uncover the massive election-changing fraud that they were hoping to find, Sonny Braley came to the defense of Cyber Ninjas.

He also spewed nonsense claiming that there is a conspiracy from the Arizona Secretary of State to suppress evidence of election fraud. The shame stream media, local and national, keeps criticizing the auditor, Cyber Ninja. But technically, what they're doing is showing the level of contempt towards the 1,500 volunteers that did 100,000 man-hours, counting every piece of paper in every ballot. To call you a liar, it's despicable, it's disrespectful, it's disgraceful, and you need to hold them accountable. Folks, we're in a battle for this state and this country. We cannot give up. We need to stay focused. They called this the big lie that we conducted a fraud it.

Well, technically, it's a county that conducted a fraudate. Cyber security, or let me, excuse me, cyber unsecurity, internet history, deleted files, evidence not preserved, duplicate ballots, non-residents voted. Conspiracy theory, guess what? We proved it. It is a conspiracy. It's no longer a theory. We can prove it. It's an ongoing conspiracy of obstructionist and resistance.

Miracopa County and the Secretary of State's Office. My man is lit. Yeah, yeah. He is stumbling and slurring his words just a bit. But he's, you know, he's among his people. I mean, at these events, the vibe is always, you know, jubilant, laced with menace. So. Yep.

Also speaking that day was Arizona Senator Kelly Townsend, who has occasionally posted Q&N content on her Facebook page. She's also followed Q&N accounts on Twitter. During her speech, she called on election workers to be locked up. And remember, this comes from like, you know, this comes after like election workers having harassed and subject to horrific conspiracy theories about them, which, you know, led to their harassment. And finally, election fraud.

They meant to harm us. And maybe a little for a little time. But you know what we've gotten out of this? We now know what is going on. America's eyes are opened And no more are they going to be able to get away With this kind of deception This kind of fraud and illegal activity

Not only people in general, but the election workers We want indictments of the election workers So that they don't continue to do this That is you know I want to speak to the manager I want all the employees arrested Yeah, you know this led to it. chant of like lock them up. I heard a lock him up a chant when talking about Fauci too, which, you know, it was very baffling to me because, you know, I figured after the first,

you know, the really, the first lock her up chant about Hillary proved to be useless. She's very much not locked up. She's having a good time doing fucking podcast and shit. And, uh, but despite that, despite that, they have not given up on believing in the power of the lock them up chant. Also speaking that evening was Arizona representative Wendy Rogers, who called Trump the true president. We are so blessed to have the true president. President Donald J. Trump with us here today. We know the election was stolen, don't we?

We know they rigged the machines, the database. the voter rolls, the drop boxes, the county level vote counting. They don't even count the vote at the county at the precinct level anymore. Let me tell you, Arizona is a red state. We are not turning purple. And President Trump won. Man, so depressing. It is depressing.

At the event, I met with, met up with the woman behind the Arizona right-wing watch account. And she told me that this is apparently a bit of a talking point amongst the far right in Arizona that, like, they very angrily insist that Arizona is not turning purple. is a, they believe it's a red state and defiance of the evidence, just as much as they defy the evidence that Trump lost. They insist upon the reality they prefer. You know, I think this is why people love coming to these events, because they get to angrily insist upon the reality they would prefer. The U.S. Congressman Paul Gosar, who regularly hangs around

extremists, was also in attendance. One of Gosar's best buddies is Stop the Steel organizer Ali Alexander, who happened to enter this event through the VIP entrance. So the guy who was really, again, another guy who was instrumental in helping January 6th happen, who encouraged it, who celebrated it, was welcomed by the organizers, which is fucking insane. I don't know why. I mean, Ali Alexander should be in hiding. It should be afraid of authorities hounding him. Instead, he's a VIP at this Trump event in Arizona.

But anyways, so, yes, Paul Gosar's speech, he made reference to a storm. Now, today is very apropos. Do you feel the storm building? It's America. She's tired. She's tired of having her parents told that they're not involved in their education. They're tired of not seeing justice. Where we see our men in blue and our military being disresolved.

respected and disregarded. That storm continues to build. When we see the long lines, the empty shelves, and the lack of respect for those who are governed, you, the American people. So continue building on this storm. This storm will carry us to 2022. I think it's harder and harder for him to deny that he has some physical issues. There's been a few rumors about his health. Either he is very, very drunk or he is showing some symptoms of a physical issue, but he's been denying it. A lot of people notice that he is very twitchy. He's stumbling over his words. His deck is sort of rolling around on his body. So he's very, very strange. Some people have been speculating. He's been suffering from some kind of degenerative disease or something, some sort of neurological condition possibly. But yeah, his behavior was very strange. Oh, we can't do that. We can't, we can't diagnose.

You're right, right. I don't know. I don't know. This is like, this is, no, we can't. But if we, but if we don't admit that there's something to those rumors, we'd have to say that this man is blackout drunk. Right. Possibly, yes. Well, we don't know what it is.

We don't know. Listen, listen, he may have had a few before he started speaking. We are not doctors. Don't take, do we don't take medical advice from us. We have no idea what the hell he's talking about. I don't like it when people start. speculating widely about health. But yeah, his behavior is a little weird. The report is that there are rumors swirling. We're not trying to speculate. I'm just mentioning that there has been speculation and that when I was saying on my stream watching this that this man

is blackout drunk, people were like, well, there's maybe this other explanation. And, you know, I'm going to say that that's another credible possibility. The last speaker before Trump was Arizona gubernatorial candidate Carrie Lake. And Carrie Lake was very much supported by Michael Prostman of the negative 48 cult. In fact, during a live chat, Prostman claimed that Carrie Lake was endorsed by JFK himself, which means Trump, who I guess is JFK in disguise, endorsed Carrie Lake. I do want to say that Carrie Lake strikes me as an insanely competent potential figurehead for the MAGA movement of the future. She is, she's very poised, which is, and she has a background in, like, local TV journalism, so she has that media experience.

Yeah, so she is a possible future superstar. We'll see what happens. Yeah, she's kind of Taylor Green without the baggage with more self-control and poise. And watching her speak, you know, speaking for myself, I definitely could see that her becoming a bigger issue. The future governor of Arizona, she gave her speech. And before she gave her speech, they showed a news clip of her talking to prostitutes and, you know, swamp monsters. And she is the real deal. I mean, if she was running in my state, I'd vote for her hands down. And, of course, she's, you know, Trump and Doris.

And JFK indoors. So she's the real deal. So she was a hammer. I mean, you've got to go watch the tape before she speaks and realize she is speaking truth. And as people speak truth, it's just. mind-blowing, and really beautiful to see. And so she spoke, but then once JFK, aka Trump, got up there, he invited her up again. Why?

So you can see how tall she was in relation to Trump, and it didn't add up. So everything has a reason and a purpose, and that's why he invited her back up, because she already came up, and she already did. gave her big speech, and was already, you know, featured in a little movie clip before she ever came up. He brought her up again just so you can see how tall he was in relationship to how tall she is. You could tell it wasn't Trump. I mean, it's hard to keep up, but at this point he's just saying Trump is JFK? Yeah, that's right. That's right. I don't fucking know. I mean, the story, the negative 48 Michael Prosby's story is ever shifting. Yeah, JFK, aka

Trump. They are no longer two people. They are one. Trump stepped into a machine and a fly with the head of John of Kennedy Jr. also flew in at the same time and they step out a combined DNA, you know, amalgamation that at first is incredibly powerful. It can walk on walls. It can, you know, it can digest its food externally before eating it. But eventually, eventually, you know, the shoe's going to drop. And that creature will melt over the course of the film. Finally, it came time for Trump himself to speak. Now, I kind of assumed that there would be a speaker immediately before Trump came on.

But in reality, Trump came on to speak about 45 or like 50 minutes after Carrie Lake was done speaking. In the meantime, there was just this long. string of classic pop hits playing by artists such as Dolly Parton, the village people, and Elton John. However, right before Trump came on the stage, the speakers played the theme song for the legendary professional wrestler, The Undertaker. So this is actual audio captured from the rally. That is a fucking That is a fucking funeral dirt It's so weird.

Yeah, weird. Like, yeah, just graveyard. bells ringing. I mean, I suppose it's kind of tracks for Trump. He is in the WWE Hall of Fame. And, you know, his appeal might be explained in the same way that, you know, professional wrestling is appealing. We do the mash.

We do the Trumpster mash. Right. So in that Trump spoke, and I'm not going to play any of his speech, because honestly, fuck him. And it's the same shit all the time, just grievances and just rambled on for an hour and a half or longer. What I thought was interesting, though, is that, like, I noticed that. that people started filing out of the venue like half an hour into Trump was speaking,

like Trump supporters. They were like, all, all right, we got here. We saw him speak. We saw him do some of his bits. And now I'm ready to go back to my car. Well, a lot of them were probably dehydrated and had been waiting in lines on their feet for hours for no apparent reason. Yep, yeah.

So some attendees of the event were apparently under the impression that Trump was really a body double. But in fact, during a live chat after the event, Ron Wadke, fielded a question about the issue, and he tried to dispel the myth. Everybody was thinking that Trump really wasn't at the rally that it was a body double. What are people, what are people thoughts on that? I was at the rally, and I saw Trump, and it's not a body double. That was actually him.

100%. Thank you, Ron. Okay, end of discussion on that. Please stop bringing this up. Right, please stop mentioning the body double issue. Oh, man. But yeah, that was basically my experience. I spoke to some Q&O followers.

I got yelled at by Jim Watkins, and I saw a string of Q&ON connected speakers push absolute nonsense about the 2020 election that will continue to erode democracy and probably fuel violence in the near future. Are you looking to get punched? What I mean by that is, thank you for your service, superstar. Well, it was my pleasure.

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Listener, until next week May the Deep Dish bless you and keep you. It's not a conspiracy, it's fact. And now, today's auto-chew. Ron Watkins going on Tom Numbers show, what gives, yeah, I don't know.

Hello, I love Ron. I love Ron and Jim. But I don't know about their judge of character. At least Ron's. Good old Tom Numbers. Shit. I'll start worrying about Ron if I see him on a Charles Ward interview.

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