QAA Podcast - Episode 228: The Piss Drinking Vaccine Police

Episode Date: April 22, 2023

The anti vaccine movement is still relatively fringe, despite exploding during the pandemic. But what happens when someone is too extreme even for the most dedicated antivaxers? That’s the tale of Christopher Key, aka Vaccine Police. In 2021 he made a name for himself by traveling from city to city while wearing a custom “Vaccine Police” shirt and fake badge in order to harass pharmacists, health executives, and city council members. We track his decades-long history of pushing disreputable health treatments — including what he euphemistically calls “urine therapy.” And we learn how his antics have led to multiple arrests and shunning by the anti vaccine community and even Donald Trump himself. Subscribe for $5 a month to get an extra episode of QAA every week + access to ongoing series like 'Manclan' and 'Trickle Down': http://www.patreon.com/QAnonAnonymous QAA's Website: https://qanonanonymous.com Music by Pontus Berghe. Editing by Corey Klotz. References Zachary Petrizzo https://twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo Sports Illustrated: The zany story of two self-ordained sports science entrepreneurs https://www.si.com/nfl/2013/01/29/strange-lab-lured-numerous-athletes Washington Post: Self-proclaimed ‘Vaccine Police’ tells Walmart pharmacists they ‘could be executed’ for administering shots https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/19/walmart-christopher-key-anti-vaccine/

What's up QAA listeners? The fun games have begun. I found a way to connect to the internet. I'm sorry, boy. Welcome listener to chapter 228 of the Q&ONANANANANANANAS podcast, the Piss Drinking Vaccine Police episode. As always, we are your host, Jake Rockatansky, Liv Egar, and Travis View.

So I'm going to start off today's episode. But the new vocab word I actually learned, it's urophagia. And it means the practice of drinking urine. I know there was a word for that. Okay. But now we know. Travis, people have been drinking urine since the dawn of time, okay? Of course, you know, there's like four or five different words for it, I think,

depending on the type of urine and the type of drinking that you're doing. The ancient Sumerians had, you know, 99 different words. Yeah. Now, it's true that a pistol. drinking is an ancient practice. But I would argue, I'm going to make something, I'm going to make a controversial statement, is that there is really no good reason to drink your own urine. Now, some might say, well, what about a survival situation? What about you're trapped in the woods, you're in the desert, you're dehydrated, and you've got nothing else except your own product. What about,

what about them? Well, you know, actually, I checked, and the science does not support piss drinking even when you are dangerously dehydrated unless you, like, treat the urine with a process like reverse osmosis. The Army Field Manual for Survival Evasion and Recovery actually specifically lists urine on its do not drink list along with seawater and blood.

Well, unless you're Kevin Costner, you know, floating on a hobie cat in the post-apocalyptic ocean, I think then you can drink your piss if you filter it through a snake skin, I believe is what he uses. I'm not quite sure. I can't recommend that particular process.

I heard reverse osmosis. That's what supposedly works. Okay. But today we're going to be talking about a man who feels compelled to drink his own piss for a very strange reason, the false belief that protects against COVID. Great. Yeah. So today we're going to be talking about a man named Christopher Key, aka Vaccine Police.

So he is a fascinating character who's been reported well by Zachary Petrizo. So Christopher Key is an Alabama-based anti-vaccine activist who gain notoriety for traveling across the country and telling pharmacists that they'll be executed for giving people's shots. Though he exploded onto the scene in 2021, he has pushed worthless cures and performance handsers years before then. So he's like also a snake oil salesman. He's got skin in the game here, so to speak. This is true.

He does benefit from people believing that mainstream medicine is no good. But as we'll see, I'm not going to make anyone feel bad for this guy. I think anti-vaccine kind of beliefs are very dangerous. he's also kind of like a tragic figure because somehow he's managed to catapult himself so beyond even the uh beyond the craziest anti-vaxers that he's totally alienated himself from the conspiracist community oh no who will who will take him in but before we get to that story i have to talk we are we're recording this on weed day 420 which also happens happens to be the day that daddy elon on twitter took away our blue check marks now of course

I had one. Jake had one. The podcast had one. Live didn't get one, unfortunately. I'm sorry about that. But yeah, now it was back to the old days, like we're anybody else. It was a, well, it was weird. I never expected to get verified. I thought it was kind of silly that they verified a fake name with a stock photo avi. And so, you know, back to the usual order. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. was right, the verified system didn't make sense if Travis Vue Travis Vue Two fake names One of them isn't even your middle name You know, two fake names

But verified nonetheless Same with me, although I used one real name And I am actually a lizard So it's kind of fucked up I didn't get the verification Yeah, that is Yeah, that is fucked up You sent in all your documentation You know, the heat, the heat lamp proceeds

True story Some of my brother, my younger brother and I. We owned lizards when we were, you know, little-ish, and they were collared lizards, and we named them Raptor and Natasha, because I think Jurassic Park had just come out around the time, so Raptors were very much in the forefront of my consciousness. And Natasha, I guess, for like Boris and Natasha, maybe, we were Bullwinkle, Rocky and Bullwinkle fans growing up. But both lizards, both lizards died very, very close to one another. One died at a pet store while we were on vacation, so I guess she died at the lizard hotel. And then the other one just like cooked itself to

death on the rock. I think the problem was, is we had a, we didn't understand the care properly and didn't realize that you were either supposed to have a heat rock or a heat lamp. And I think we might have had both, you know, sort of stacked on top of one another. So, yeah, we weren't allowed to get lizards again after that. He died doing what he loved, chilling, relaxing on a rock. A perfect 420 death. I also want to touch on the recent leaks of classified documents by 21-year-old Jack Tachara. He is an airman with the Massachusetts Air National Guard. And this is a very funny, very strange, very online story about a kid who got to be a real-life version of Q for about two dozen of his friends on Discord.

That's usually how things go. Whenever you do the coolest thing of your life, maybe a handful of people will be. around to notice. It's, it's never what you imagine in your head of a sort of, you know, a global, you know, sort of praise. It's always just for a couple of buddies. Some of them who you, you may have never met in real life. It's for Clouton Thug Shaker Central. Yes, that's never. So according to reports, this guy formed a Discord channel with people he met online, some of whom are literal underage teenagers. And there was, they met based on their mutual love of guns and video games. And yeah, they gave this Discord the problematic

name Thug Shaker Central and Tashara posted under the name OG and it was on this Discord that he shared a bunch of like top secret documents he happened to have access to and they eventually made their way to other Discord servers and 4chan. This story is kind of like is fascinating to be because what sets it apart in the history of leaks is that the leaker wasn't motivated by ideology or material enrichment as far as we can tell. So he did apparently use some like anti-Semitic slurs and complain about government overreach. But there's no evidence that these views. motivated him to give the wider public, you know, government secrets. He just wanted the teenagers he hung out with online to know he had access to this high-level intel.

The Washington Post spoke to one member of this Discord server who spoke about him in much the same way that you hear Q&L followers talk about Q. And this line I thought was really interesting. The young member was impressed by OG seemingly prophetic ability to forecast major events before they became headline news. Things, quote, only someone with this kind of high clearance would not. You know, it's so fascinating to me. I mean, maybe this is what you were sort of getting at, Travis, is that like, you know,

whoever was posting as QAnon, you know, was doing it for political reasons. They were, you know, maintaining that they were very, very high level, you know, very, very high level. And none of it ended up being real, really. And then you've got this 21-year-old kid who's like, not doing it for political purposes. And it's all real. And it's all real intel. It's just like, of course, of course our reality is this stupid. It reminds me a lot of the like War Thunder leaks.

There's War Thunder is a game for like fighting planes and stuff. Oh yeah, I've tried it. I've downloaded it a couple of times and tried to get into it, but not my bag. It's very like technical, like the people who have like are really nerdy about World War II fighter pilots will like be into it. But like there's a forum where they talk about, you know, all of the nerdy war stuff. And sometimes, I think a lot of the times it's accidental, people will be debating like, some fact about the F-35, and then off-clearance will be like, that's not true. That's not how the

F-35 works. And then they'll post what is, like, at the time, classified information about new military technology. It's just, like, completely non-ideological leaks related to, like, impressing your boys on a forum. Much more powerful, it turns out, than any kind of political agenda. I think all politicians in the USA from now on should really run on one principle, and that's impressing the homies for clout can you imagine oh my God we would elect five or six presidents at a time

if everybody was up there just just trying to chill and like you know you seem cool in front of the boys I mean holy shit yeah it's just also like crazy to me because you know it's like it's like I think obviously there've been like you know times in history where you know

there are people who have access to high level intel who are you know who felt like it was so important to reveal government wrongdoing or government cover-ups that they were willing to put themselves at risk a very serious prison time in order to expose these facts you know they had like you know they were they are standing upon the principle you know even a patriotic principles like you know the people deserve to know these things about what the government is doing in their name and that can that can yield some like really interesting information but here is just it's not about that it's just people thinking you're cool. And I think that just that this yields, number one, it yields shittier leaks because because you

restore it being indiscriminate. You're not really, you're not really, you know, getting like, you know, giving people the good stuff. And then on top of that, you're like risking, you know, you're risking prison time for, like you said, for fucking clout. You're risking the possibility that you're going to cool your heels in Leavenworth for a few years because you want your homies to think that you're cool. It's like, I don't know, it's just, it's just baffling how powerful this. draw of online clout is now. Yeah. Well, and it's not like, you know, this isn't something that's planned.

This is stuff that happens in the moment. Somebody says something that, you know, makes you want to push back on it because you have, you know, insider knowledge or, you know, you're feeling, you're having a good day and everybody in the chat's having a good time. So you're like, hey, you guys want to see something really cool. You know, I think people just forget. I think the, you know, the desire to fit in and to impress and to build oneself up far out ways, whatever commitment you've given to the place that is paying you money, you know,

whatever institution it is, you know, that employs you. It's like there was this, you know, long time ago, long time ago, Julian and I did a video game podcast way, way back in the day. And we had this guy on who worked at like a major video game company, like a AAA company. And he came on to like talk about, you know, the game and the development and all of this stuff. And it was like a great episode. And we just had like best time and learned all of this, all, all the stuff about this new game that was. coming out and then slowly like over the course of the next couple weeks he would like reach out to us and be like oh hey can uh can you guys actually like delete that one thing that i said because

i think i might be like breaking an n d a there and we would like oh yeah yeah yeah no problem we like take the episode down delete the thing put it back up like a couple days later he'd be like oh man can you guys actually there was this other thing that i said that um i definitely definitely shouldn't have been talking about so if you guys could delete that as well that would be great and then like the last email we got from you know where this is going because he was like yeah i think you guys are going to have to take that whole episode down. Like, I think I could get in like a lot of trouble. And it was just, it's so funny. It's just like, people don't necessarily always think about the consequences, especially when it's stuff relating to this kind of like big company or

this big institution that you're really just sort of a cog in anyways. And a lot of people like who are working in these things find them cool. Like, I'm sure this guy, like, some of it was information about like the war in Ukraine before things were released. Like, I'm sure he was like in whatever weird right ringway he was like obsessed with all of the logistics for it and i'm sure everyone in thug shaker central was as well i wonder i wonder if some of this the change in the kind of ideological framing of certain leaks from like maybe a decade ago where it was like this this incredible piece of information or of this horrible crime has as has fallen on my lap like the people have to know to like whatever strange clout purpose is people are leaking things now might be because

i remember seeing something about how like the air force is dealing with like an incredibly low level of sign-ups, the American Air Force, compared to, like, previous years. And if, like, ironically, previous decades of leaks and information about American war crimes has kind of made a lot of the people that would be whistleblowers be like, I don't want to do anything in relation to the military in the first place. If some of the people in these positions are a bit more, you know, because this guy seems like right-wing, edgy guy, like, if it's that type of person who is more occupying these positions now. Yeah. Yeah, that's possible. I think that, you know, I think probably a consequence of that this is that when people start doing or at least when the government

starts doing screening for security clearances, they're going to check for clout chasing. You're like, oh, how lonely are you? How much do you want attention? How much do you want to feel cool amongst your friends online? And it's like, it's like, is this, does this seem like the kind of person who would like to seem like more, you know, hip and sort of like in the know by leaking some information to some of his friends. Yeah, they're like, uh, and, uh, Stephen, how many hours of CounterStrike have you played? Have you downloaded the new Hearts of Iron 4 mod? I'm back to Russian-Ukraine war.

Do you play it with your friends sometimes? That's always wild to me. Whenever like a World War II game comes out, there's like a bunch of people that, like, want to play as the Nazis. And I've always been like, you know, if it's a multiplayer game, you see somebody else on that team, you're like, oh man, you just. chose that. Interesting. The main topic of our episode today is probably the most aggressive anti-vaccine

activist working. Most anti-vaccine activists, they're content with just posting disinformation about vaccines or they might make on books and documentaries. If they're feeling really aggressive, they might go to like their local city council meeting and then like yell at the city council members, that kind of thing. But all of those anti-vaxers are pretty weak compared to the man we're talking about today. Christopher Key, aka Vaccine, vaccine. police. So this is a man who has traveled from state to state, bothering airplane captains, pharmacists, and even city council members in cities he does not live in. Has he given himself the name the vaccine police? Is that his own sort of?

Oh, has he? He, oh my God, he produces, uh, yeah, he produces, uh, he puts it on his shirt. He puts it on his car. He is, uh, he proudly embraces the label of vaccine police. I'm pretty sure I saw like a steam indie game called vaccine police. So we got to look into that. Maybe he's behind that as well. It's always so funny, like, when people compare themselves to the police when they're breaking the law. Like, you know, like, it's like the, it's, I mean, maybe it's similar to, like, how a bunch of cops are obsessed with the Punisher. Or it's, like, the point is that he's not doing the thing you're doing. Like, he's not following, he's doing illegal stuff.

Yes, the cops believe they are vigilantes and the criminals believe that they are the police. It's great. It's perfect. Now, something that's interesting about Christopher Key is that he's been a dedicated anti-vaxxer and pusher of quack medicine and quack sort of performance enhancers for many years. But most of that time, he's been pushing these views in total obscurity. I found a YouTube channel from this in like early 2010s in which his videos only got like hundreds of views.

But the pandemic really allowed Christopher Key to like break out and gain the notoriety he has today and even get like a small number of extremely dedicated followers on telegram. It's really interesting the guys who have been obsessed with vaccines for like decades. And then like COVID happens and they're like, it's my time to shine. Oh, yeah. It's like I've been, I've been preparing for this for decades. It's like everyone's anxious and wary and sort of even a little bit, you know, confused. So I am going to make this my time.

You're telling me millions of people have now had their brain. broken in the exact same way that I've been broken for decades. Yeah. So Christopher Key, born at 1973, he started in a pretty conventional career in fitness. He studied kinesiology at the University of Alabama, and he was a partner in a gym called Steel City Fitness. Now, some of the earliest newspaper articles I could find about him from like the early 2000s involve him, like offering pretty conventional fitness advice, like dedicating yourself

to an exercise routine and being consistent and sticking. to it, stuff that's very normal and healthy and stuff that you might hear from any fitness professional. But according to Christopher Key's own account, he developed his anti-vaccine stance after the birth of his twin children in 1999. They suffer from a rare genetic condition, referred to as PQU. So this results in a decreased metabolism of a particular amino acid. Untreated, it can lead to very serious intellectual disabilities, but according to the National Institutes of Health with early diagnosis, proper treatment, and a strict. diet is possible for someone with PQU to live with normal health. But it's not easy because it requires

parents keeping their children on a special low protein diet and that just requires a lot of extra time and money. You know, anecdotally, I have a story for my personal life that is that is very similar, a person whose kid was born who was, you know, seemingly totally regular person, not a conspiracy person or anti-vax. And when their kid, when their kid was born, they had some learning disabilities. And from then on, they became like a complete anti-vaxxer, moved out of California, moved to a more red state, like follows weird Q accounts on Instagram, like the whole nine yards. It makes me wonder if people just like in an effort to just, you know, out of, you know, the love, you know, the love that you have for your kid trying to find any and all answers,

you're going into forums essentially looking for other stuff and you're coming into contact with other parents who are also like, yeah, I, you know, I think it's this vaccine and here's the research, you know. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's certainly possible. Like, if you, you know, when your child is suffering from something very serious and you even feel like the, you know, the conventional medical establishment isn't as helpful as you wish it was, it's, it's natural to like, you know, try and explore outside that realm. And that can leave you, uh, being really good prey for anti-vaxxers. Yeah, because nobody wants to go, nobody wants to admit that like, life is fucked up and hard and random. And sometimes, you know, good people are, you know,

burdened with, you know, some kind of difficult medical, you know, condition or experience or whatever, you know, that's, that's tough to swallow. It's, you know, it's like any, any conspiracy theory where the idea to find an explanation and to be able to understand why something is happening, even if there isn't, you know, sort of like widespread research, you know, on that conclusion. Yeah. I feel like one factor that affects this a lot is the placebo effect. Maybe less with like someone treating their kids but like it's it's frustrating if you have some sort of condition that negatively affects your health and you've just been going from like doctor to doctor and like no one's really finding anything and then you like suddenly like grasp onto this

like kind of so much energy into it and I end kind of like and put so much hope into it that like a placebo effect does affect your well being in some way and you're like well this is clearly it and then all those doctors actually hated me and they had the truth or something and they were concealing it from me and you can you know it can go pretty dark. Yeah, my soft rest in peace believed that this boxed frozen soup that you would get at the grocery store was like a cure for the common cold. And I still, whenever I feel sick, like to this day, I will go out and buy this soup. There's no science behind it. But it's just, that's how human beings are. Yeah, it's one doctor after another. It's, it's we don't know or

we have to wait and see. And then somebody, you know, some other parent in a play group or an aunt or our grandmother goes, well, I heard that if you chew on mint leaves, it cures it within a couple of weeks, you know, it's just, that's how we are. Yeah, and you get those, like, absurd ones when you're more desperate and trying to believe something because you've written off kind of mainstream. Medicine is an ability to help you. Yeah, it's tragic. In 2000, the newspaper Birmingham Post Herald reported about the difficulty

that Chris Key and his wife had for taking care of their special needs children. The keys spend about $2,000 per month to feed both of their children. Their insurance company, like most in the state, won't pay for their formula and their prescribed foods. Alabama is one of the few states without a law to require insurance companies to cover the high costs of the special diet. Families must submit claims on an individual basis. Most are rejected by insurers who often say they won't pay for a diet that consists of nutritional supplements, said Janet Isaacs, a registered dietitian at the University of Alabama. Quote, many of our families give up, Isaac said. In order to raise money and awareness about the condition,

Chris Key and his wife started a organization called Keys for PQU Foundation. They intended to use the foundation to help families who can't afford to pay for the formula, to lobby for legislation, to require insurance companies to pay for special foods, and to support research to develop better-tasting formula for babies with PQU. So, the story of this anti-vax lunatic starts with a story about a man who loves his children, and was failed by America's barbaric healthcare system and dedicated himself to helping other families with special needs. Yeah, it's like, and you wonder why what's built into a lot of the sort of like holistic health remedies

or, you know, the new wave, new wave medicines is a distrust of the government. I think that, you know, that seems to be the sort of common factor in all of this is that, you know, It starts with feeling like, you know, the government that you pay taxes to, the health insurance that you pay a high monthly premium to, or it's taken out of your paycheck from work, is, you know, basically useless when it comes to anything above and beyond your sort of standard regular care. And it's sometimes, like, people that mistrust for government is, like, kind of McCarthyite neuroticism. But, like, sometimes people have really good reasons for not trusting that medical health care system and the government, et cetera. even if they, like, you know, go off the rails, as we'll probably see here. Right, yeah. Christopher Key says that he was especially protective of his children's health because of their disorder.

And so he was highly skeptical when his doctor offered a normal vaccine regimen. I said, Doc, can you show me a study? Can you show me a study that that schedule is safe? Because, guys, my background is in exercise physiology, kinesiology. I love doing research. My whole life has been about taking care of the temple. and I thought I was very well educated, but I only knew what I've been taught.

And he said, sure, Christopher, they're all over the place. They're everywhere. And I said, well, Doc, can I see one? He said, right now? I was like, yeah, you're about to inject my children with this new schedule of vaccines. I've got to see the research, that this is safe and effective.

He said, well, Christopher, nobody's ever asked me that before. And I'm like, well, brother, I'm asking you, because you, I got a seat. He said, well, Christopher, I'll have to get that for you later. And I was like, okay, well, we'll wait. You're not touching my children until I see these studies, okay? Because my twins with their rare disease, I had to test any and all things. Can you show me a study is interesting? Because, like, I'm sure in, like, kinesiology you're not taught how to read scientific papers.

And there is just a general, even in like some STEM degrees, a lack of, any education at all about how to read scientific papers. I wonder if that would have had some effect if he was like, because I'm sure he has no clue how to read academic papers, which is why he's had this weird idea that, you know, the scientific data doesn't support vaccinations. I wonder if there was a change in education that we might have seen some, you know. Well, and I feel like even with the paranoia, if the doctor produced, you know, a study, you know, or a couple of studies, he would be like, well, and who, what's the University of Alabama

a research. Who is this? Who made the study? Why are they qualified? I want to know. Brother, I want to know. That's why a lot of people are surprised when, like, people working in hospitals are so anti-vax. And it's like, you get a week in, like, med school for, like, viruses. Like, that's it. Like, there's no education. There's no qualification here. Though Christopher Key is best known for his anti-vax stance, that is only one part of his rejection of conventional medical science. For decades, he has promoted. several treatments that are not supported by the medical establishment. And he actually says that he took inspiration from medical scammers before him.

Now, one of these pioneering medical cranks is a man with a fantastic name, Royal Raymond Rife. So, King. Mr. Royal Rife, so I think he's fascinating enough to get an episode on his own. But in the 30s and 40s, he was a man who claimed that he invented an oscillating beam ray, which he said could disable cancer cells in microorganisms, which were responsible for disease. So he basically said that he could just zap away all ailments. So in his day, he got some newspapers and scientific journals to go along with his claims, but they were ultimately rejected by medical associations and mainstream science.

Of course, this rejection of Rice's ideas was attributed to a conspiracy by the medical establishment to suppress a disease cure. Another one of Christopher Key's heroes is Lynn Kenny. This was a man who claimed that he could cure cancer and AIDS similarly by also using a ray beam emitter. So popular. The beams are popular. You know, the beams, it sounds plausible. Someone says, I'm going to fix you with a beam. I can't immediately say no. They're like, but surely the beam, you know, cuts into me right and opens it up and you're going to have to stitch me back up. And they're like, no, no, no, sir. The beam just, it's a spot of light. We aim it in an area and that's about it. Well, it's going to make me like nauseous and stuff right. Nope, not at all. In fact, very few side effects. What, you might feel a small tingling, you know, at the, at the sort of, uh, late. spot, but that's it. These guys are basically, like, anti-James Bond villains. Yeah, people willingly

strap themselves on the table as the beam makes its way, you know, towards their nether regions. In 2001, the FDA wrote Lynn Kenny a warning letter informing him that his beam ray claims constitute, quote, a serious violation of the law. A man can't claim they have a beam that cares cancer nowadays?

No, no. Apparently, apparently the regulator's frowned upon that. Coincidentally, Lynn Kenny happened to live just down the street from Christopher Keith's childhood home in Birmingham, Alabama. Christopher Key liked the work of these cranks so much that he said that the people who have done the most for humanity are Lynn Kenny, Royal Rife, Nikola Tesla, and Jesus Christ. I bet Royal Rife is like, he's not surprised with that comparison. He's like, well, yeah, I often get compared to Jesus. But also in this case, like, didn't his, like, life-saving technology gets suppressed?

Like, hasn't he not done that much? Like, maybe if the, you know, the positive he didn't cover it up, he would have done a lot. Well, I don't know. I think Christ's life-saving technology is basically can be found on, you know, the corner of every street in America. Well, yeah, that's

why he was a much bigger success. Yeah, much bigger. I have to say, in my line of work, sort of like, being vocally supportive of Nikola Tesla is a big red flag. Now, it should be the case. This is a guy who made actual serious major contributions to electronic engineering. But whenever someone is a little bit too enthusiastic about the work of Tesla, it either means

that, you know, maybe they're kind of like a nerd who likes the idea of his like rivalry with Edison or something, or it means that he thinks that he invented like time travel and free electricity. Right. Yeah, they love Tesla for the technology that never came out. You know what I mean? Like nobody's interested in like anything Tesla actually did that's like recorded. They're only interested in, like, what was suppressed or, like, things that he had discovered, but, like, were destroyed, you know?

Yeah, to be fair to Tesla hate, like, he kind of did pull, like, a Kenny. Because I know Tesla said that he had, like, a death ray, and he wanted to sell it to the czar for them to win World War I, which I don't think he had that. I think that was, I think that was a goof by Tesla. I mean, you know, I mean, like, Newton believed in, like, alchemy and shit. So, I mean, if you're, if you're a scientific mind, you can go off the rails. That's true. You know, it's so fucked up is that every time I hear Nikola Tesla's name, I only picture David Bowie because that's who played him in the film The Prestige. Have you guys seen that? Oh, yeah.

Of course. It's a classic. Of course. Okay. Classic. Yeah. All right. Now, fortunately, Christopher Key didn't get started in the world of quack treatments by falsely claiming to cure cancer and AIDS.

He actually started working for a company called 8, and that's spelled with the number 8, then I-G-H-T. So there's number eight where the E is supposed to be. I don't quite get it, but that's how it's spelled. Yeah, I think the pronounce, I think the correct pronunciation, Travis, is eight, I, all right. All right. That's so stupid. Eight, I. All right.

And what did the company do? So they sold holographic stickers. So the users of the. product are instructed to tape the stickers to acupuncture points, and this somehow stimulates greater health. So this is clearly woo-woo bullshit. But here's how the product was pitched in a promotional video. Through acupuncture medicine, your body's able to retrieve information using holograms to achieve balance, harmony, and better health. Simply place the eight holographic disc on the appropriate acupuncture point. Quantum technology then stimulates these acupuncture

points, the body's biofield conducts the signals activating the body's acupuncture meridians. Just peel and stick. Uh, yeah, absolutely insane. So that's pretty crazy, but it actually gets worse when you hear why they call the product 8. So they claim that the shape of the number 8 itself has some sort of healing effect. So this is some of the company's bat-shit sales copy. Of particular interest is the number 8.

It became apparent early on with machine testing that the number 8. had a positive influence on the body and if the sign of infinity was added to the number eight the effect was magnified we then added an octagon around the double eights and the energetic effect improved again eight then started doing research around the worlds and found numerous references to the number eight in every culture okay I mean sure the Chinese started the Olympics on 8808 at 808 p.m. to bring good fortune and success to the Olympic Games so we lasered the geometric and numeric eight patterns in the center of all eight holograms, and the influence of eight is there for everywhere.

The idea that a hologram, which is essentially like a visual optical illusion, can have, you know, have any medical properties whatsoever is like Donald Trump level of science. And like, we found the number eight in every culture. It's like, I hope so. It's a pretty small number. Like, it's going to come up. It's like, you know, we did some research. We found that no matter.

where you go in the world. People count things. Amazing. The funniest would be if he was like, I've looked into 15 other cultures languages, the numbers, they go for three, four, five, six, seven to nine. And there are very few cultures, in fact, even utter, utter the number eight. According to a report in Sports Illustrated, the company eight fired Christopher Key for exaggerating the benefits of its products. Now, I wish we had more details of what that was like. They didn't specify what this exaggeration because they're already claiming that the sickers activate the quantum field and the number eight has energetic effects. So how, it's like, what happens? Like Chris, you're going way off

script. Don't, you got to say that the number eight heals paid. You can't just say what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder what claims he made that were like, you know, too, too far out there for, for eight. In the early 2010s, Christopher Key got national attention as an athletic performance scammer, which, you know, I'll say that's a little bit more honest work. So if, like, if you tell athletes that they can do certain things in order to perform better and it doesn't work, I mean, that's bad, but, you know, it's still misleading people. But usually, like, the worst that happens is that they won't compete as well as they'd like to. So it's not as bad as, like, telling people you have a secret cure to disease and pain, and it doesn't work.

I feel like athletes believe a bunch of weird stuff about how their body performs anyways. Yeah. You know, it's a wash. Yeah, right. You know, they're athletes, they're super serious. people. They're going to fall for something anyway, so, you know, whatever. Christopher Key and a partner founded a company called Sports with Alternatives to Steroids or Swats. This company offered quack performance enhancers at a time when athletes were looking for an edge that wouldn't get them banned. So the NCAA, now technically they've tested student athletes for drugs since the 80s, but like in the 2000s, they started to crack down a lot harder on doping. And this included

even testing athletes in the summer months. So it's not like they could. like, you know, get away with, like, getting juiced in the off season and just, you know, stopping when the time came for them to be tested. That meant, like, athletes were trying to find a way to, like, get an advantage without taking something like anabolic steroids that would get them kicked off the team. And that's why Christopher Key's company had an enticing offer. He said that basically they could get steroid-like benefits without cheating. For example, they claim that cell phone frequencies damage athletic performance,

but this could be fixed through the use of these special holographic stickers that were placed on the So he's still going with the hologram stickers, even in the new company. He is still going with the hologram stickers to this day, actually. So it doesn't let it go. All right. I appreciate someone who's stuck to their, you know, who's believed the same thing for the last 20 years. It's kind of fucked up that Nate fired him for believing in the product so much.

Because I feel like that's what's going on here. Too enthusiastic. They were like, you dummy, we're ripping these people off. Come on. The company also claimed that a special spray made from Deer Ant, could stimulate muscle growth because it contained large amounts of IGF1, which is a natural anabolic hormone. Now, unsurprisingly, there was nothing connecting these claims to reality.

Despite that, Christopher Kiki managed to attract the attention of serious athletes. In 2012, Kee and his partner pitched their products to members of the Alabama Crimson Tide college football team, which won the SEC championship that year. So he managed to get the interests of like some of the best college football players in the country. In 2013, Sports Illustrated ran a report headlined, Snake Oil for Sale and the athletes who, science be damned, think it might work. So, yeah, it is like the placebo is helping these athletes who are like, yeah, deer antlers, move we run faster, sure.

Yeah, who cares. They think about a deer, if you imagine a deer. You're like, it's fast, it's nimble, you know, can get away from prey. And then you think about the antlers, you're like, strong, it's from nature, it's gritty. You know, it's just, you could, you know, run. it full speed into a tree or a pair of another antlers that are attached to an opposing deer. You know, not all that dissimilar from a linebacker, you know, running into the opposition on the start of a play.

Yeah, the way the placebo effects work, like, he's selling the dumbest form of snake oil and then, like, that's working for serious athletes. Yeah. The spray was a genius idea because if it was like deer antler drops that you have to kind of, like, put four at a time on, like, your bald spot or whatever, like, I don't think that's neat it doesn't feel right but a spray I mean what how could you go wrong do you think this is like a gamer girl bathwater thing where like it turned out that she wasn't actually selling real bathwater it was just like water and it was like oh they won't notice like like who knows what sprayed deer

antler like smells like yeah is he going to like pet smart and buying the antlers that the dogs are supposed to chew on I got a couple on the floor right behind me and just like grinding them down putting them in water? I mean, that's what I would do if I were him. Easiest, easiest solution. That report described how Christopher Key presented his solutions to the athletes. Stocky and Genial,

with short black hair carefully curled at his forehead, Key began by telling the players that there would be thousands of cell phones in the Superdome the following night, and that frequencies from those phones would be swirling through their bodies. They're going to affect you guys very negatively, Key said rapidly and with a twang.

Key passed out his remedy for the frequencies. stickers, which he calls chips bearing holograms of a pyramid. Key told the players that on game day they should place the chips on three acupuncture points, one on the inside of each wrist before they tape their arms. The chips also come embedded in bracelets and one over the heart. It's going to help your heart have so much more energy, he said. Come the fourth quarter, you guys will not be gassed at all. Like the star of an infomercial flush with catchphrases,

guys, this stuff is beyond real. He also showed the player's gallon jugs of quote-unquote negatively charged water, which he claimed would afford them better hydration because it adheres like a magnet to the body's cells. It's like the opposite of Foley water. Yeah, exactly. Negative water. This water, it'll make you real mean. Real hateful.

Then he held up a canister containing a powder additive to be mixed in water or juice that he said had put muscle mass on a woman who was in a coma and an oscillating, quote, beam ray light bulb that could, quote, knock out the swine flu virus in 90 minutes. Why are they trying it on a woman in a coma? She can't consent to that. Very strange. Very strange. Very strange example to give when reporters are watching. Finally, he pulled out a bottle of deer antler spray, which also comes in pill form. We have deer that we harvest out of New Zealand, Key said. Their antlers are the fastest grown substance on planet earth because of the high concentration of IGF1 we've been able to freeze dry that out extract it put it in a sublingual spray that you shake for 20 seconds and then you spray three

times under your tongue this stuff has been around for almost a thousand years this is stuff from the chinese alleging that the NFL warned players away from swat spray because it's a threat to quote big pharma key boasted that swats is quote the most controversial supplement company on earth. I didn't realize they were like ingesting the antlers. That's so much worse. Oh, yeah. That is.

So I thought they were just going to like spray it on their elbow or something. Yeah, like perfume or whatever before the big game. Oof, that's got to taste rough. Yeah. I mean, yeah, the deer antler thing is bullshit. It doesn't work and it's pretty worthless. But actually, it gains some fame after Chris Key convinced NFL linebacker Ray Lewis to use it to treat an injury. How did this guy even get an audience with these folks?

I mean, this is, this is insane, insane levels of, of access. Well, I think, I think it's two things. It's like, number one, it's like he has, like, well, shit, he has a degree in what he's talking about. He has some experience working in the fitness industry. I'm sure he met some college athletes as part of working in a gym. And then also he started making these extraordinary claims to be like, oh, I know exactly how to give you an edge. And, man, athletes, if someone tells them that they have the secret to an edge, you know, they're going to listen. I actually found Christopher Keyes bodybuilding.com for messages from this era.

So he made just five posts in 2011 before he was banned. And it's pretty clear that he was banned for spamming the same message over and over again. He pitched a product called Mojo wristbands. And this is like basically a variation of the same like holographic healing technology bullshit. So this message, he posted in all caps, Mojo wristbands work. I can prove it. Email me. I will give you the proof or go to YouTube and put in.

Mojo Chris Key and check out the demo I did at University of Alabama. Call me at, and then he posted his actual phone number. So responses to this message from other members of bodybuilding.com often included just the word WAT. They were very confused. No, I think this is interesting because like right now, Christopher Key, he's banned from Twitter. He's banned from Facebook. But it's important to remember that he's a veteran of being banned from web forums.

He's been doing it since the early 2010s. So, yeah, he's been in this, like, insane conservative kind of fugue state for, like, decades that, like, conservatives have just gotten into, like, following January 6th and, like, COVID. He's really got a head start on all this. He did, you know? He's like, he finally realized that the rest of the country was on his level. Yeah, you know, it's like what they say about anxious people in a moment of crisis, you know, your sort of level of anxiety that you're always at. And now the people around you are with you and you. become their king.

Eventually, his business, SWATS, collapsed due to aggressive lying. In September of 2013, the Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange filed a civil complaint against SWATs alleging at least 264 violations of the Deceptive Trade Practices Act. Is this because they had 264 products? I don't. A judge issued a restraining order against the business, and it was rated by the Jefferson County Attorney General and, um, the county sheriff's office, and its assets were turned over to a court-appointed receiver.

So they got absolutely cleaned out. Yeah, so it sounds like swats ended up being the one swatted themselves. An apt ending to a unfortunately named company. So though in the past couple of years, Christopher Key, he gained some notoriety for being a nuisance to people over vaccines. But this is behavior he has engaged in for over a decade. So in Alabama, one can get an exemption from vaccine requirements if the vaccination conflicts with sincerely held religious beliefs. In 2012, he posted a video of himself leaving the Shelby County Health Department in Alabama after asking for a stack of these medical exemption forms. And in the video, he recounts an exchange he had with a clerk there.

I ask her, would she please give me 20 more forms to take back to anybody that did not want to get immunized? And she said, no, sir, I cannot. I cannot and I will not. And I said, why? And she said, well, you've been inconvenient, haven't you? I said, yes, ma'am, I have. She said, well, they'll have to be inconvenient also. I said, that's not right.

You know, why can't you make this simple? Give me the forms so that I can take these people back the forms so they don't have to take the shots. And she said, it's policy. And I said, okay, ma'am. his policy, well, you showed me the policy. And that's when she kind of said, no, sir, I don't have to show you that. I've taken all the time I'm going to take with you, and you need to have a blessed day. Very interesting. He's like, I will definitely have a blessed day, okay? Even if I am walking away without an additional 30 forms. I was expecting that to be more public freakouty.

Yeah, a little bit more confrontational. Maybe this escalates later. Yeah, it does. He gets it gets increasingly, I guess, belligerent. But I just want to emphasize that the belligerence was always there. It just, I guess, like, you know, made him who he is thanks to the pandemic. Right. At some point during the pandemic, he created the vaccine police persona. So this has included a polo shirt with the words vaccine police and a fake badge that dangles around his neck.

So I'm not sure when he exactly decided to be the vaccine police, but he registered his website, vaccine police.com in June of 2021. They got a picture there for you. Yeah, he's got, he's looking happy, happier than ever. There is a young, blonde woman hanging on his shoulder. He is wearing a badge and a uniform that says vaccine police on the front left breast pocket and just looking generally happy and cut, you know? This is like if police uniforms were like designed by an extremely like gay man in Florida?

I would describe. This man is at a gay Halloween party. Christopher Key went public with his vaccine police persona in August of 2021. There, he and six of his followers traveled to Springfield, Missouri. He went there after being invited to a rally protesting the Springfield-based Mercy Hospital's COVID-19 vaccine mandates. He and his followers also went to a Springfield Walmart, where he repeatedly told the pharmacist there that they would be executed for their crimes against human. He warned that the pharmacists were violating the Nuremberg Code by administering COVID-19 vaccines. Now, this caused the workers to close the pharmacy for their own protection.

I tried to get the full video of this, but it's been, I could only find small clips. It's been scrub. Like, I said, his Facebook has been taken down. Damn, that's got to suck so bad if you're a pharmacist. Like, you're already dealing with people who are like, who are like, oh, the spray isn't in there, my, but my insurance should have called, my doctor should have called, or people being like, oh, well, my insurance is supposed to pay for this, but it's $300, I don't, and then they've got a guy who's coming and being like, you're going to be executed for crimes against humanity.

It's like, I would close down, too. That's a half day as far as I'm concerned. This is definitely Punisher Energy. He's taking the law into his own hands. Yeah, in his like mesh vaccine police best. The day after that, Chris Key filled himself confronting Steve Edwards, the president and CEO of the Springfield-based company Cox Health. He served Edwards' papers, which he said show that Edwards had committed these crimes

against humanity by imposing a vaccine mandate. How did he find him, like he found him in a parking lot? That's got to be some like psychopathic level of stalking. That's a good question. I guess I don't know, but I assume he just sort of stocked out his place of business and wait until he went home for the day. Yeah, Cox Health, you really need to up your security. If you've got the vaccine police able to corner your CEO in a part,

parking lot. You're really dropping the ball. Christopher Key also went to a Springfield City Council meeting where he threatened the city council members again with committing crimes against community. You've all trespassed on your oath of office. When the governor mandates this, we the people will be coming back here with the sheriff, with the attorney general, and we will be arresting the governor. And you also, if you do not stand down, because everyone, of you have violated your oath of office. And we the people will not take this any longer. These incidents were so serious that they were covered by the Washington Post and prompted the

American Pharmacists Association to issue a statement. We deplore the intimidation and verbal assaults directed towards pharmacists, pharmacy technicians, and other pharmacy personnel earlier this week at a pharmacy in Springfield, Missouri. The agitators' arguments are clearly absurd and pull attention away from critically needed factual information that our patients and the public deserve. So Christopher Key, he loves getting into confrontations and then filming himself in that confrontation. For example, he filmed himself fighting with an airline pilot after he was kicked off a plane for not wearing a mask. You're the captain of the ship and you're denying me service on this plane.

I'm not denying. Our company policy is. No, but you're denying me access to it. So I can get on the plane now. Is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, can I get on the plane or not. That's what I'm asking. You said I, you're not deny me because you're denying me. You're deny me, I need to know that because I need to follow off to get you and this guy too. A certain policy is denying you the ability to get on this way. Okay. So could you head up there right now, for you? I would go up there. You want me to get security? No, I'm just saying, I'll go up there and can I shake your hand? I don't believe what you're doing is correct, but I'd like to shake your hand because I think you're following, you're following orders. And in the Nuremberg trial, they followed

orders. You know what happened to them, right? You know what happened to them? Don't push me. Don't push me. Don't put your hand on me. You put your hand on me. I shook your hand. I shook your hand. I shook your hand. I You hit one of you did. You hit one of a Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. So these people right here are the ones that are denying me access to fly, guys, because I have an exemption called God. And God's law is the only law that applies that allows me to fly uninhibited. And these guys are disallowing life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, okay? So he's the God police. Those are the laws he's following. Yes, yes. Of course, Liv. The, you know, omnipipot. cloud ruler that's been written about in, you know, some books. My favorite part of the Bible is the stuff where he talks about airplanes. Yeah, air travel, 14-3.

In December of 2021, Christopher Key really started going off the rails. On Telegram, he started brandishing weapons, and this included a flamethrower. He posted a video of himself projecting flames from the flamethrower while yelling anti-vax rhetoric. What we're going to do with this right here, guys. All those bio weapons that we have that are not vaccines, they all need to be lined up, and they need to be exterminated. We need to get rid of the bio weapons. That's what we're going to do with this right here, guys.

Get rid of the bio weapons. There are not. I repeat, they're not a vaccine. They're a bio weapon. This is not a pandemic. It is a pandemic. It's crazy the amount of things you need to say as a leftist to, like, get the FBI at your door. And then this guy can be like, we're lining up all the vaccinated people and burning them

alive. And there's just like nothing. Yeah, this guy is like in a public park, it looks like. There are like residential houses, you know, a hundred feet away. He's got this giant flamethrower. Where did he even get that? Did he build it himself? That's actually a flamethrower from Elon Musk's boring company, I believe. Oh, it is one of the Elon, Elon flamethrowers. No, it wasn't, but that'd be very funny. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the only place that I can think of if I wanted to go buy a flamethrower or something. But he's very lucky. You know, that can go very badly if the fuel spills out or it backfires.

I mean, you know, there's a reason that flame throwers aren't the preferred weapon of most individuals. My idea of America is, like, not necessarily antithetical with the idea that you can just go out and buy a flamethrower. I'm not sure if that's true or not. You basically can. You can order it, I guess, online. Can't you buy, like, RPGs or something? I've seen something about that. I don't know.

It depends. I mean, probably in places like Arizona or something where the gun laws are really, really loose. You could probably get a couple crazy things. I mean, hey. Bazuka. Chris Key also kept threatening to arrest people. For example, he threatened to arrest the governor of Louisiana, John Bell Edwards, while talking on Clay Clark's podcast.

Again, I am the vaccine police. I realized 23 years ago there's nobody policing the vaccine companies, the CDC, the AMA, the FDA. So we the people are doing that, and the vaccine police is doing that. And we're doing a very good job, Clay. We have shut down pharmacies. We have shut down boards of education. And we will be arresting the governor of Louisiana on February the 7th if he does not stand down and not vaccinate the children of Louisiana. We will do this legally. We will do this lawfully. We will do this out of love because right now they're trying to start a civil war, Clay, and they're coming for our children. And we have to stop this. And we have to stop this now.

because again, you guys have shown everybody that we have the evidence now that proves. This is not, I repeat, this is not a vaccine. This is a bioweapon. This is not a pandemic. This is a pandemic. And we have to prove this. We have to show this. And we have to speak up and stand out and show people what is going on, Clay.

Who is we in the situation? I guess like the, I guess the people, the people in the populist imagination. Or the other police officers. Yeah, because it seems like some of these videos, it's clearly taken as like he wants to go viral. I just need like one viral video and then the people will rise up and join my police force. Yeah. I also think he was wrong about like all three reasons he gave that this was legally, lawfully, and out of love. I think it's probably not legal.

It's not lawful and probably more out of hate, I would imagine. But it's God's law that it's lawful. You got to consider that that's important. Oh, yeah, that's right, sure. Around this time, he also upped his branding game. He got his car wrapped. So he has a vehicle here, a very nice car. I have a picture of it for you.

You see it has the vaccine police website URL on it. It also says vaccines kill. He also has a little graphic of the constitution on it. It's a nice rap job. Do you think you tried to write this off his taxes? Hmm, well, probably. Raps can get expensive. I mean, all the printing and the labor.

I mean, I got to say, this is pretty awesome. The car looks sweet. Yeah. This looks like something maybe you would drive in twisted metal or vigilante eight. One of the car combat games, pretty sweet. I like the choice of colors. I like the font that he chose. I like the sort of, you know, the skull and crossbones, but with the two needles underneath where the bones are.

I mean, it's pretty cool looking. In early 2022, his antics started getting him in real serious trouble with the law. So in April the previous year, he was asked to leave a Whole Foods in Alabama for refusing to wear a mask. And when he refused to leave, he was charged with third degree trespassing. Now, this is a minor charge, it's a ticket, whatever. But when he appeared in court in Jefferson County over the charge, he was arrested for refusing to wear a mask and recording with his phone inside the courtroom.

Just like stepping on a rake and then like just consecutively stepping on more and more. While in jail, he took the time to call Stu Peters and explain in his own words what happened. They had agreed to allow me to do Zoom because they understood I had a medical religious exemption. So they moved us into a room and we got everything set up to do Zoom. And then the bailiff came back and said, Christopher, she's now saying that, You have to wear a mask, and if you don't, then, you know, he said, I don't know what's going to happen. I said, what do you mean? And so I started recording my camera again, and the other officer came out and said, you can't be recorded.

And I said, look, the law clearly states that anybody can record. The only person that's permission is the press. And he said, take that off. And I'm like, no. So he walked back inside and then came back out and said, sir, you're being arrested. And I said for what? He said, you're being arrested. And I said, why? And he said, you're being arrested. It took my camera from me. They brought me back in through the judges in front of the court. And the judge said, if you do not put a mask on, you're going to jail. And they said, he cannot say anything, take him to jail. And I've got no bond. I have no idea what this happened. I don't know. There's nothing that says I was in contempt of court or anything. What she did say, I heard through the door, was that because I did not put a mask on, that was failure to appear.

So this is crazy, Stu, and I just want everybody to know that I'm safe, as of right now, I'm not suicidal. I love life. I will never kill myself, and I know that's ridiculous for me. I have to say that. But we're over the target, brother. And what we're doing is God's work helping God's children, and more importantly, the people of the world now. and we got to stop this. What is his, like, what does he think he's going to do?

Like, this is going to go to the Supreme Court. They're going to decide that he was in the right? That's a good question. I don't know what the fuck his endgame is, because it is pretty clear that no amount of, like, legal consequences or social resistance is making him rethink his stance. In fact, it's causing him to double down.

So that over-the-target thing, the more people argue with me, the more people, you know, threaten me with prison time. The worse and worse it gets for me, actually means the more right I am. The more rakes I step on, etc. Yeah. As, yeah, see all of these puncture wounds in my forehead?

That lets you know how right I am. You know what's crazy, though? Is this guy like a little bit of a grab bag? I feel like there's a little bit of sovereign citizen. In him, there's a little bit of QAnon. There's a little bit of the sort of new age, you know, holistic sort of medical treatments. He really, he really personifies, you know, kind of all the ways a modern person can be pill.

He really is just America right now. He's history on horseback, the world spirit. He is the vaccine police. He actually, he has actually also claimed that he doesn't need a driver's license in order to operate a car, and this is something he got from sovereign citizen beliefs. While his anti-government rhetoric was getting more extreme, his medical quackery was also getting more extreme. He started recommending that people engaged in what he called urine therapy, which is, of course, drinking your own piss. He pitched this idea to a roomful of supporters

while wearing a shirt that has a picture of Nikola Tesla's face on it. And what I really like about his pitch is the stunned silence that came after he revealed the recommendation. And I've been practicing this for 20 years and everybody's always said, I'm cray cray and I am, but I'm crazy like a fox. Okay. And guys, when I tell you this, please, you know, take it with a grain of salt but go do the research okay because this is going to just be like there's no way but the antidote I'm gonna kill my credibility but what credit they don't have any way so hey the antidote that we've seen now and we have tons and tons of research is urine therapy okay and I know to a

lot of you a lot of you this sounds crazy but guys God's giving us everything we need, okay? God has given you everything, including your own urine, a gift from God, but only when it's, but only when it's light yellow, okay? When it's like, kind of like amber and dark, that's a gift from the devil. Do you think this is like a sublimation if something sexual? Like, why would you go to your drinking urine? Where's the motivation here?

I don't. I could not begin to understand how he came to this conclusion. I also thought that the grain of salt line was. funny, much like the high salt content of his own urine. Yeah, I mean, did all of these guys just watch like Waterworld, like back in the 90s and saw Kevin Costner drinking his own piss? And that's where the idea came from? I wouldn't be surprised. I wonder, all these guys, they basically think movies are real, you know? And the more fantastical the movie, the more of a secret truth is revealing. What maybe Kevin Costner has a lot to answer for. I'd like to get him on

the show and ask him about that scene. and every other scene in Waterworld. Now, in fairness, Christopher Key, he emphasized that he's not actually claiming to give medical advice as a doctor. I'm not a medical doctor. I'm not telling anybody drink their own urine, but I drink my own urine,

but I've done, drink my own urine for the last 23 years. And I'm still alive, and I drink bleach. Not bleach. I drink chlorine dioxide. But anyway. Oh, yeah. I don't know. This guy's full of energy.

He's got a full head of hair. He seems happy. I don't know. Babies the decades of piss drinking. I've been having a. energy problems recently, and I think it might be anemia. Maybe I should think this, this guy seems to have more energy than I do. Yeah.

Now, Christopher Key's antics are apparently two out there for even some far right in anti-vaccine activists. In April of last year, he attempted to enter the Take Action for Freedom Tour in Florida. So this event featured a big-name anti-vaxers like Robert Malone and Peter McCullough, but the organizers of that event weren't happy with his presence, so they reported him to the police as a trespasser. He refused police request to leave the property and was again arrested. He's just having to do like sovereign citizen stuff everywhere he goes, even even in like anti-backed spaces. You would think if I was, okay, if I don't, let's say I did my own research,

right? And I, you know, happened upon a sovereign citizen community and got pilled on it. And the next time I got, you know, pulled over to traffic stop or whatever, I used my sovereign citizen skills and I ended up in jail. You know what? I would be like, well, that shit didn't work. All right, I got to move on to the next thing. Like, that clearly didn't work. I'm in jail. This guy's now been arrested twice. You got to wonder, it's like, but I said the magic code word to like not get arrested. And yet here I am in the jail appearing before a judge. You know, what has to happen in somebody's brain where they go like, well, it's the law that's wrong. It's not like my sovereign citizen believes. Like, those are definitely real and true. It's this, uh, you know,

know, these fascist oppressors instead. Not saying that the police aren't fascist oppressors, but you guys know what I mean. So, I mean, I don't know. I think it's just like, you know, American tenacity. Like, if you give it, you're all, and you try, it doesn't work. What the fuck you can do?

Give up like a little bitch? No, you just double down and keep going. He's a contrarian in his heart, fundamentally. They should have never given us the American dream. Now, of course, like, I mean, He's so extreme. He's like, he's being rejected from like, I guess, more conventional anti-vaxxers who are already fringe. And he's like getting arrested.

And so what does he do? But he gets even more extreme. So what he does is that he starts pushing medbeds. You know, medbeds? This is basically the Elysium bullshit. This idea that there are these pods that you could, you know, lie in. And it just heals you with like super advanced technology. Particle beams, dude.

it's what all the guys have been trying for years is they finally, you know, that's finally perfected it. So he pushed these med beds on Sue Peter's show, which apparently is his last ally. So are these med beds real? Steve, this technology is beyond real. And we have access to it, and we

just brought it to Boynton, Florida. And you can see it right behind me, brother. And the things that are happening with this bed is unbelievable. Perhaps more painful than the rejection from other anti-vaxers. is his rejection from Trump himself. So recently, at Mar-a-Lago, there was an auction to have dinner with Trump and Trump Jr.

And this was an auction that Christopher Key won. So he was very excited. He actually said that this was an opportunity to ask Trump some tough questions. Like, why exactly he's so supportive of a vaccine? What was the deal with, like, Operation Warp Speed? They had an auction to have dinner with Don Jr. when his father will be in town so you get to be with both of them and the vaccine police was able to win that auction. So what my plan is, guys, on April 29th is when I will be

breaking my fast. And my plan is to have dinner at Marlago with Don Jr. and his father and ask him the questions that are really concerning to me. I think Trump deserves to have to talk to guys like this forever. Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah, man, if you're going to, like, fleece these people, at least you're going to have to listen to them. At least that's the small semblance of justice. Yeah, Don Jr. is like, Dad, okay, we've got Chris from, what does it say here?

The vaccine police. Oh, God. And Trump's like, oh, my God. Vaccine police. Oh, my God. How long do we have? He's like, how long is the dinner supposed to be? And they're like, oh, I don't know why.

I think we guaranteed him an hour, at least he's like, oh, God, all right. Okay. How did he win? Did he pay just like an exorbitant amount of money? Because I noticed they didn't say lottery. They said auction, which means that in my understanding that whoever pays the most wins the auction. Yeah, good point. I don't know where the hell he's getting his money because he's, I mean, it might be just his anti-vaccine followers, you know, or just pumping cash to him.

Right, right, right. Or he's selling a lot of deer antler spray. Maybe he's raised money to, like, hold Trump accountable for Warp's Food. Yeah, it's interesting that he doesn't say Donald Trump's name in that video or he doesn't refer to him as the president or the former president, less likely. But, you know, he doesn't, he only says Don Jr. and his father. So I'm going to be with his father. That's a really funny way of referring to Trump is Don Jr.'s dad. That is really funny.

Now, however, this dinner didn't happen, apparently Trump or someone in the Trump org, realized who Christopher Key was. and they didn't want to deal with his bullshit. So Trump's, they returned his money. And Christopher Key explained how he was canceled by Donald Trump in a video he filmed while he was walking down the beach. And that explains why there is the roar of waves in the background. I got some bad news last night where I've been told that Donald, Jr. Trump, and President Trump has canceled me.

They have canceled the vaccine police. They are returning my check for my donation that I won in the auction, and I will not be breaking my fast on the 29th at Marlago with Don Jr. and the president. I would not be doing that. Why? I believe they did the research, and they realized who I was, and they realized that I would ask the tough questions. I would not. be the talking parent from the telalive vision that I would be asking President Trump why he has continued to push this bioweapon because it will kill billions of people I would be asking him why he's allowed for this pedophilia to go around why has he allowed them to continue to poison our water our food our supplements our air why why because he is nothing but

a puppeteer guys that's what you have to understand these presidents these people in power they're not elected by we the people they are put in power because they took a note I believe to say

every single one of that's what I believe that video was published just a couple weeks ago and that's basically where Christopher Key is right now he is a man more or less on his own he's too fringe

for the anti-vax community. He's too toxic for Trump. He's just left walking down to Florida Beach, getting sunburned, starved because he's fasting, complaining to a small number of cult-like followers on telegram about how he's been canceled by the Satan worshiping Trump. And I don't know what's going to happen next because, like I said, he's very alienated.

He's very desperate. He is, again, he's shown a willingness to get more and more and more extreme, regardless of how much it costs him. So, yeah, interesting to see what happens next. If he really wanted to meet the president or the former president, he probably shouldn't have gotten arrested twice. Think that they probably look that stuff off.

They go, okay, let's see, the vaccine police, this is already suss. Let's see, what do we know about this guy? They go, arrested twice for trespassing. Failure to appear. Oof, yeah, we probably don't want this guy. he's not gonna he's not he's gonna ask you you know some crazy shit but so we know he paid for it we know he paid they said he said he said uh they returned my check yeah i'm sure he said some weird stuff about trump before that they've picked up on maybe or is he like coming up now and saying that he thinks

trump is like aligned with satan like he can finally come out and say it i think it's like he he has like obviously he's complained this is often a complaint of anti-vaxxers trump support for vaccine so he's voiced that before but as far as i'm aware this is the first time he's come out and said that actually Trump signed a pact with Satan, which is a pretty extreme and sort of weird thing for someone on the far right to say. I guess like all his politics is just like, the people who push back against me are bad. And like, no, Trump is literally directly pushing back against you. So he must be Satan.

Well, yeah, and if you're a hardliner no vaccine, you know, and somebody is, isn't also a hardliner no vaccine. I mean, this is what this guy's been pushing for like 20 years. Like, what, he's going to, like, compromise his true values because of some asshole, like Donald Trump? No way. No how. He doesn't care. What's fascinating, though, though, is that he's calling into Stu Peters.

I mean, he is using QAnon language that positions Trump as, as the ultimate hero. And it's like he, it's weird to see somebody that is, you know, embracing, you know, many other aspects of QAnon, but not Donald Trump, which is who's, you know, a totally central figure to the conspiracy. Yeah. Maybe it's like he's been like on anti-vaxed by himself for so long. He's like, I don't need this new wave. I'll be here in 20 years when no one cares about this again, God willing. Yeah. I was there 20 years ago.

Yeah, I have a feeling this is not the last that we'll see of Christopher Keyes. His outspokenness and his willingness to get arrested, I'm sure we'll bring him into our own airspace again in the future. But I wish him well. Thanks for listening to another episode of the QAnonanon Anonymous podcast. You can go to patreon.com slash QAnonanonymous and subscribe for $5 a month to get a whole second episode every single week. There's two other series as well that you'll get access to. And if you're already a subscriber, thank you so much. It helps to stay advertising free and editorially independent.

For everything else, we have a website, QAnonanonanonymous.com. Listener, until next week. May the deep piss bless you. keep you. It's not a conspiracy. It's fact. And now, today's auto kill. Everybody is living with pain. Everybody has so much pain in their body and whatnot. This is a little chip that you can take and you can put anywhere on your body you have pain. This little chip is a hologram where we're able to store information into the hologram and then we put in the energy field, it resonates. And when I took this to my professors at Alabama many years ago and they did the clinical study on,

They're like, Christopher, how in the world is this doing this? It's nothing but a sticker. Guys, it's not just a sticker. It is energy. It is frequency. Everything is frequency. Everything is energy. Okay?