QAA Podcast - Epstein’s Inbox Is Full (E349)

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

Travis, Jake, and Liv sift through the gems in the latest dump of Epstein documents released by the House Oversight Committee. The records show interactions with individuals across politics, academia,... finance and media, including Noam Chomsky, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Peter Thiel, Steve Bannon, and author Michael Wolff. We cover Epstein’s comments about Trump, Michael Wolff’s creepy work with Epstein, Bannon’s request to visit “the island” the day that Epstein was arrested in New Jersey, and the notorious email in which Epstein’s brother references a “photo of Trump blowing Bubba.” Plus: how the QAnon and conspiracist communities are spinning the new revelations. Subscribe for $5 a month to get all the premium episodes: www.patreon.com/qaa The first four episodes of Annie Kelly’s new 6-part podcast miniseries “Truly Tradly Deeply” are available to Cursed Media subscribers, with new episodes released weekly. www.cursedmedia.net/ Cursed Media subscribers also get access to every episode of every QAA miniseries we produced, including Manclan by Julian Feeld and Annie Kelly, Trickle Down by Travis View, The Spectral Voyager by Jake Rockatansky and Brad Abrahams, and Perverts by Julian Feeld and Liv Agar. Plus, Cursed Media subscribers will get access to at least three new exclusive podcast miniseries every year. www.cursedmedia.net/ Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (instagram.com/theyylivve / sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (pedrocorrea.com) qaapodcast.com QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Keep mehap. If you're hearing this, well done, you've found a way to connect to the internet. Welcome to the QAA podcast, episode 349. Epstein's inbox is full. As always, we are your host, Jake Rakitansky. Live Akar. And Travis View. We still don't have a complete accounting of Epstein's activities and the extent to which
Starting point is 00:00:52 powerful people either participated in them or were complicit with them. We don't have a complete record of how many girls were vivacious. victimized by Epstein. The DOJ has said that the number of victims is over a thousand year over the decades, but we don't have anything precise. But you know what? We do have documents. Lots of new documents. Over 20,000 new documents released by the House Oversight Committee earlier this month, which were obtained from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein. America runs on documents. Which includes the American Sex Traffigating.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Yeah, that's the new breakfast sandwich sandwich. These documents include private emails, text messages, schedules, and financial records, which do shed some more light on EPSY's network of high-profile associates and what they may have known about as crimes, but they're just as frequently cryptic, difficult to parse, and require a lot of context to make sense of. So in lieu of substantial transparency and justice, we can instead pour through these emails, decoding them and trying to figure out what they might expose about our political, media, and financial elites.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah, I talked about this on blue sky a bit how like the pizza gators were very wrong in the specifics. So they're very bad at analysis. But they won culturally is like trying to parse through emails to decode them, try to make sense of what they're saying is normal political discourse now. Yeah, and it's way easier instead of having to parse through like kind of like old hat politics, you know, it's just be like anti-pedophile. Like you're against those kind of people. Like who's going to who's going to take up a stand against you? I was thinking of, like, a guy who's like, because there are some people defending Epstein, especially because he's attached to Trump. Like, you had that, who's the older, blonde?
Starting point is 00:02:37 Megan Kelly. Megan Kelly being like, there's 17. Come on. Like that sort of line. 15. Yeah, she said barely legal. Like, she was familiar with the genre of pornography. I thought that was so weird.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Yeah. But I am, like, imagining, enjoying imagining a guy who's, like, doing like, reverse pizza gate stuff where it's like, no, no, no. in that email where Jeffrey Epstein talks about buying children, that's actually code for walnut sauce on his pizza. Like, they couldn't talk about that literally. You don't understand. These new records show interactions with individuals from across politics, academia, finance, and media, including Noam Chomsky, former Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Barak, Peter
Starting point is 00:03:20 Teal, Steve Bannon, and author Michael Wolfe. Their communications with Epstein continued years after his 2008 conviction. for soliciting prostitution from minor, for which he was registered as a sex offender. Yeah, it's interesting. I wonder, like, if this happens. Because Thompson kind of just, like, I mean, he's insanely old.
Starting point is 00:03:37 He's kind of just, like, receded from the public. Like, how much bigger of a discourse that would have been when he was, like, doing media runs? Like, maybe, like, 2020. Because, yeah, it's pretty bad. Like, I mean, you can get mad at Chomsky for a couple of things, one of which is, like, genocide denial. But talking to Epstein and hanging around him is, it's pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:03:55 It's a pretty big stain in his legacy. Yeah. post conviction. I mean, is it like, you know, like when one of your, like, high school friends gets like a Dewey and like, you're like, oh, oh, man, horrible, like, horrible. Yeah, you shouldn't really do that. But, like, we're already kind of all hanging around. Like, are we really going to abandon him over this? This is something that everybody in our circle is getting away with for the most part. I mean, how is that the case if you're Noamtrovsky. That was the crazy thing. Like, the high school friend analogy is Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, it's not looking
Starting point is 00:04:27 It's not good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no good. So it's impractical to, like, cover all of what's inside of this newly revealed correspondence. So I'm going to kind of zero in on the bits I personally found most interesting. And then we'll talk a bit about how the conspiracy world is reacting to this new document dump. As with any podcast, it is what we find the most fascinating. So I want to start with the three messages that were initially released. by the Democrats on the House Oversight Committee.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Because I think it's interesting. This kind of started, I guess, kind of like a document, like a war between the Dems and the Republicans on the House Oversight Committee. Because, like, first, Democrats, they released these three interesting emails. We're going to talk about in the moment. And then Republicans responded by releasing like 20,000 more, which is like I'm obviously all in four releasing everything they got. But it seems like this is a, how, though.
Starting point is 00:05:22 It's kind of like, it was kind of a strategic dump. The timing was, at least. Yeah, it's really, it's really where I'm. remarkable, like, we haven't gotten mass resignations in the Republican side for many of this, that they're able to strategically dump these emails. It's just, it's such a horrific political context in America, because this is way worse than Watergate. And that was, it was over for him. Like, I think that spying on your political enemies is not as bad as fucking kids.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I feel like the majority of Americans would agree. Apparently not, though. Apparently they don't care. Like, I don't, I think maybe there's just a. enough of the population that's been like right-wing brainwashed. Yeah, it's just as easy to be like, well, if it's bad, if the news is bad, somebody put it there. But if the news is good, it's real and true. I think we're just, it's so easy to just go like, oh, you know, like this doesn't line up, like quickly, quickly figure out how to, you know, who can I find on Twitter that has like a plausible, yeah, okay, this, this narrative will emerge.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah, perfect, fine. It's just crazy that the strategic decision for Republicans isn't, like, completely abandoning, like, MAGA and Trump as a political project. But I think it's interesting. Yeah, we talk about, like, Watergate. It's like Watergate is what helped spurred Roger Ailes to help create Fox News because you thought that this wasn't a scandal of political corruption. This was a scandal of media bias. You thought that it's like, it's like if the conservatives had a greater share of the media space, this wouldn't happen. we made a decades long plan to capture more media share for right wingers so that so that this kind of thing could never happen again mission accomplished yeah yeah he went too far it worked too well all right so the yeah the emails released by the uh democrats on the house oversight committee so the first one this is a 2011 email from epstein to galane maxwell and epstein wrote this I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Redacted victim name spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. Police chief, et cetera. I'm 75% there. This is just like so horrific. Dog that hasn't barked. I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Isn't the phrase the dogs that didn't bark? Is that means like, yeah. Epstein sounds to me like he is like fucking constantly jacking off. To type this bad with this many spelling mistakes and this many periods, he must just be trying to type with one hand wherever he goes. I just imagine he's constantly walking around jacking off, and that's like the only excuse for this kind of like horrific spelling. Because this is 100% typed on an iPad, right?
Starting point is 00:08:09 Like this is iPad spelling. Absolutely. He's like lounging back in like a leather chair. He's got a martini. He's like one of those guys that like watches pornography like when he's bored. You know, he's just like, he's like a porn. on the phone shoved into, like, the divider area, like, while he's driving somewhere. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:29 He's got the porno mag, just casually reading. It was, like, fully closed. Yeah. He's like, um, he's like, Ron Watkins' level of, like, porn guy. He's like a guy who has, like, a dedicated, like, a dedicated porn area in his house. I mean, isn't that literally the point, like, it's, like, half compromise, half just, like, he wanted sex tapes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Of people fucking, like, teenage girls. Yeah, yeah. It's like, he found a way to really make his perversion's work for his career. Yeah. Yeah. That horny little Jewish guy with like swag from like, you know, summer camp who just like nobody ever stopped. Other reporting and the Republicans on the House Oversight Committee have indicated that the name of the redacted's victim is Virginia Jewfrey, the Epstein survivor and sexual abuse advocate who committed suicide in April at the age of 41. Now, interestingly, Jufri very specifically said that she was not victimized by Trump. She accused a few people, including like Prince Andrew, but she didn't claim that Trump victimized her. But this email says that according to Epstein, I guess not a reliable source entirely,
Starting point is 00:09:34 so that Jufri spent hours with Trump at Epstein's house. Which is still, you know, it's just hanging out with the sex trafficking girl victim and not, it's still probably not a good. It's like, oh, okay, well, in that case. he was just hanging out with her. Yeah. Yeah. What does he say?
Starting point is 00:09:50 He's like, are they treating you well? Like, what do you say to a hostage? You know, essentially like a hostage. He's like, no, he's like, that's, that's, that's, that's Jeff's girl. Like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to do that. That's like the Trump position. Weird.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So, Galane Maxwell replied to Epstein's email by saying this. I've been thinking about that, ellipses. So they were, they were both thinking about how, how, despite according to Epstein, Jufre spent some time with Trump at Epstein's house, and like, this has never been mentioned. Or I guess is she thinking about the fact that he's like a dog that hasn't barked, that like he's not telling on anyone, I guess? Because that's what that means, right? That was my interpretation that like Trump is not telling anyone. He's not talking to the police.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Here's the thing is that like, so the phrase actually comes from a Sherlock home story called Silver Blaze in which Holmes solves a case partly because a watchdog did not bark during the night, meaning like the intrans. was like someone that the dog knew. It usually indicates like a lack of noise or a lack of evidence that indicates something profound or significant. Right. Oh, so, okay. So he's essentially implying that Trump knew everything was going on and never said anything was totally complicit.
Starting point is 00:11:03 This is possibility. But it's also, based upon his emails, I mean, I think like Epstein has maybe like a fifth grade reading level. So he doesn't really understand what the fucking phrase means. So here we are trying to parse. the meaning of this phrase, dog that hasn't barked, when he himself may have not really understood what the hell he was saying. That dog that hasn't barked, hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:27 That dog is a great, like, 90s, like, grunge band, by the way. That's the first thing I thought when I saw it when I read that. The next email was from Jeffrey Epstein to author and, like, journalists, very loosely, Michael Wolfe. So it refers to an Epstein victim at Mar-a-Lago. it says this. Trump said he asked me to resign, never a member ever. Of course he knew about the girls as he asked Gislane to stop.
Starting point is 00:11:54 So this is referring to, says like, I guess Trump publicly said that he asked Epstein to resign as a member of Mar-a-Lago. But here, Epstein is saying I was never a member of the Mar-a-Lago club. And then he further says that, like, well, it's like he knew about the girls because he asked Gis-Lain to, I guess, stop recruiting at Mar-Lago. This is my interpretation. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, right. So I guess the implications that you can't claim ignorance about Gilane's predatory behavior and also asking Gilane to stop doing this predatory thing.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's like Stalin telling his daughter should never be in like the same room alone with Baria. It's like he knows that he's doing some pedophile shit. So the third email, so this is a December in 2015 back and forth between Epstein and Michael Wolf. So, like, right when Trump's first, like, presidential campaign was taking off. So this is how Michael Wolfe kicked off the communication. To Jeffrey Epstein, from Michael Wolf. I hear CNN planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you, either on air or in scrum afterwards. To Michael Wolf from Jeffrey Epstein.
Starting point is 00:13:05 If we were able to craft an answer for him, what do you think it should be? To Jeffrey Epstein, from Michael Wolf. I think you should let him hang himself. If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or if it really looks like he could win, you could save him generating a debt. Of course, it is possible that when asked, he'll say Jeffrey is a great guy, has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in the Trump regime. Wow, these snakes. Michael Wolfe is basically advising Epstein, like, how to, like, leverage.
Starting point is 00:13:44 leverage Trump's sliminess for his own benefit. Yeah. This is like borrowing from a pedophile to like hang Trump, you know? Like it's essentially like, ah, I'm like, ah, I really hate this president so much that I'm willing to work with like a known, a known monster. Like if I can, if I think that it'll somehow like leverage, you know, leverage power over over Trump. Yeah, pedophilia happens to be bipartisan in America. That's crazy that they're going to this guy like he's a regular. regular, like a regular dude.
Starting point is 00:14:16 It is funny, too, because, like, the very specific events that led to, like, Epstein's death really were contingent upon Trump winning. Yeah. Yeah. Like, if Trump didn't win, it is interesting to see what would have happened with Epstein. It was originally about, like, Trump hiring Acosta, who had given Epstein such a light sentence. And it's like, that surely wouldn't have happened if we had a Hill Dog presidency. So, yeah, fascinating for this discussion.
Starting point is 00:14:41 They don't realize Trump winning is going to kill him. I have no idea what Michael Wolfe looks like, but I imagine he's like a little goblin of a man. Because isn't he the guy who's like, you know, like two years after Trump is like out of office? He's like, I have the smoking gun in my hot new book, like freedom on trial inside, inside the madness of Donald Trump's presidency. Or like something like that. Like isn't he always like, I've got the smoking gun. Fire and fury inside the Trump White House is the book. I see people, like, are kind of mad at him because they're like,
Starting point is 00:15:16 why did you withhold this information? Like, even if it is, you know, real and, God, you know, we just, we can't trust these authors anymore. I mean, anybody can get a book published nowadays. So, I mean, yeah, he released an audio recording that revealed that Jeffrey Epstein described Trump as his closest friend for 10 years. So, yeah, he has, yeah, and like, he releases a couple days before the election. Yeah, he's kind of a slime ball.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And these seem like kind of not huge revelations, like it doesn't seem like he's publishing anything in these books that's like, you know, turning the course of history, really. Well, yeah, he's also kind of like fast and loose with the facts that he's published. He's kind of a shit. Now, interestingly, the emails also revealed that Epstein attempted to feed information to reporters about Trump. In December of 2015, he emailed the New York Times reporter Landon Thomas Jr., offering photos of Donald and girls in bikinis. my kitchen. And so Thomas eagerly replied, yes, but it's not clear if such photos were ever sent or exist.
Starting point is 00:16:17 That's so crazy to respond to that in the way that, like, you would respond to, like, going on a second date with someone. Yeah. Yes, exclamation point, exclamation point. It was like, oh, hell yeah. I would love to, smile. In another email, Epstein suggested that reporters, Asked my houseman about Donat almost walking through the door, leaving his nose print on the
Starting point is 00:16:38 glasses. A young women were swimming in the pool, and he was so focused, he walked straight to the door. A lot of going on there. The fact, the fact that he's so fucking sloppy, he can't properly spell Donald. Yeah, he's, don't add. iPad typing, 100%. Yeah. I just also wonder if he's, like, drunk all the time. Like, if he's, like, that rich, like, is he, is it possible that he just, like, wasted all the time? I don't know about his drinking habits. Yeah, probably. Just kicking it. He's on something, maybe. But also, you can look, like, the young women is the, you know, the Matt Gates thing. where he was calling, you know, minors women.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Oh, yeah. You know, I'm sure that's absolutely what's going on here. I mean, I'm sure Epstein also uses girls, like, sexually. But when it's trying to be above board, he upgrades to women. This is so fucked up, too, because essentially what he's doing in these emails is he's like, dude, he's like, he was so fucking into, like, all the minors we had. Like, he was into him, too, dude. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Like, that's like what he's doing is he's like, Donald, forget about it. He's a real horn dog. Yeah, all the fucking trafficking. like Donald was there like he was fucking there dude like he was he brought the beers like it's so funny as if like that makes him like worse he's like dude I just supplied it but Donald really fucking liked it yeah he was like oh listen he saw the girls and his like his head turned into a train whistle and his eyes bulge out of his skull dude fucking like giant nose having fucking dude printed in my glass sliding door now the reporter Thomas he didn't just receive
Starting point is 00:18:08 tips. He also advised Epstein. The weird thing about Epstein, the Z-Bel, is like, all these powerful and well-connected people are always giving him tips about, like, how to avoid trouble and how to improve his image. It's like, what? He's like literally on the sex registry. It's like normally, like, the point,
Starting point is 00:18:25 I guess the points of the sex registry, so that it's public information that this person is a predator potentially dangerous, but it didn't affect him at all. It was irrelevant. I mean, the easiest explanation for like all of this is that he just was a honeypot and all these senators are coming over and they what they're getting there so they have a vested interest in telling him like how to keep his
Starting point is 00:18:42 operation yeah you know like running as smoothly as possible and not getting caught and not get like they all have an interest in that and so therefore it just keeps jet it's like a perpetual fucking motion so many people in dark rooms must have been so unhappy when epstein fucking got got arrested yeah it is like this really is a total conspiracy theorist victory moment when you have all these people like yeah who seem to have some sort of oddly vested interest in making sure that Epstein gets the correct tips here. Understand how to navigate these situations. Thomas counseled Epstein to distance himself from Prince Andrew saying this. I think the big issue is separating yourself from Andrew. People don't know that and can't
Starting point is 00:19:23 accept that unless you say as much. Here's the craziest thing is that like, man, this Prince Andrew is making you look bad, not the other way around. Yeah. That like Andrews's association with Epstein is making Prince Andrew look bad. It's that was like, oh man, this like, you know that that Prince Andrew guy, kind of a pervert. I don't know if you know. As was previously reported, Landon Thomas Jr. was let go from the New York Times for violating ethical norms in his relationship with Epstein.
Starting point is 00:19:49 During Trump's 2016 campaign, Epstein was in frequent contact with Michael Wolf, who was writing a Trump book at the time. Email show Wolf coaching Epstein on media strategy and public messaging. Oh my God. What? In February of 2016, Wolf alerted Epstein this. NYT called me about you and Trump.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Hillary's campaign is digging deeply. Again, you should consider preempting. He's like, he's letting Epstein know what the media and Hillary's campaign is digging into to give him a heads up. He supports Epstein over like both Democrats and Republicans. Like, that's first and foremost, the most important thing is Epstein's okay. I was like, it's almost as if he's like feeding information to the, to the bad guys. It's like, hey, by the way, they're really digging in.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Like, you better cover your tracks, your friend. And mine, I'm guessing. Cover your tracks and mine, I'm assuming is what the thing is. I think so. Now, Wolf urged Epstein to go public about what he knew about Trump, writing this in October of 2016. Now could be the time. Talk about Trump in such a way that helped finish him.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Interested? Finish him. Yes, kill him like that. Yes. Babality That's crazy It's crazy that they're just using Epstein As what he's essentially accused of being
Starting point is 00:21:13 Which is an asset that can ruin politicians' careers Like when he decides to sort of pull the trigger Or whenever the contact, I guess in this case Michael Wolfe, you know, comes in to be like Now's the time, brother. Flip the switch. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense that someone like this Would be very powerful behind the scenes. Again, it's just a conspiracy theory to write in an indirect way for a lot of them because they're very stupid.
Starting point is 00:21:39 But, like, yeah, if you have all that compromise on people, you can influence elections pretty well. You can, yeah, if one of the major political candidates and the husband of the other political candidate are implicated in you, you can kind of help decide the result. The thing is that, like, it's like Epstein keep referring to the idea that, like, he knew exactly how dirty Donald Trump was and he could take him down. I don't know. I guess he just never pulled the trigger on this. Or he's just bullshitting. But anyways, like after Trump took office, it seemed like Epstein was like tracking Trump in the news pretty closely. In one email in February of 2017 to former Harvard president Larry Summers, Epstein wrote, I've met some very bad people.
Starting point is 00:22:22 None as bad as Trump. Not one decent cell in his body. So yes, dangerous. Epstein also told an associate this in 2018. I know how dirty Donald is I am the one able to take him down I mean it's like I have no doubt that Donald is dirty but the problem is that like
Starting point is 00:22:42 in this case it's a very unreliable narrator I mean it's like the problem with these fucking emails and that's having the fucking parse through them that we have to talk about put them in the context of the conversation who they're talking to the reliability of like you know the person they're saying whether or not they're incentivized to be truthful I mean it's a fucking nightmare
Starting point is 00:22:59 yeah that is the the problem like Because you can go at the angle of like, well, even Epstein thinks that Donald Trump is bad. But it's like, well, Epstein is saying Trump is bad, doesn't make Trump look bad necessarily. I do wonder how partisan that is if like, you know, because Epstein strikes me as like a respectable Democrat conservative. You know, it's like he's like the norms. Like he's like a norms guy. Is it norms? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 It's like, beyond the pale. Like this by itself, you know, obviously like he wouldn't be saying this about Bill Clinton who is also doing, you know, both of the two are probably. equally evil at some level. But, like, there's a reason why he's singling out Trump here. Probably because, like, he's in power in the news. It's like, yeah, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, fucking Donald Trump is so fucking evil. Even Epstein, like, the monster that he is was disgusted by Donald.
Starting point is 00:23:49 But other hand, it's like, would you find it really insulting to be hated by Epstein? You know, it's like, there's really nothing wrong with that. Yeah, like, what do you think Epstein thinks it's bad to rape kids? Yeah. Like, I don't think he does. And, like, yeah, I mean, like, given, like, somebody who's, like, a monster, like, Epstein who, like, has the rep. Of course he's going to be like, oh, I could fucking take him down.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Dude, like, dude, I got shit on everybody, dude. Like, you know what I mean? Like, if he's that kind of, like, of course he's going to be, like, you know, he is that monster, I feel. Like, everything you, and everything you read about Trump also, like, amongst people who are in that, like, elite circle who were forced to kind of. of interact with him like they hate him like he's like the smelly kid who shows up at the party like really people said that like oh he like kind of had a bad smell you know had a bad smell to him
Starting point is 00:24:41 and he was like so what's going up like you can even see in that video that they always play of him together where Donald shows up and he's kind of doing the little dance it's like it's like the guy at the party who's like that everybody else like kind of has to put up with because like he you know he's sort of like in the circle but he's super obnoxious it makes sense that he's like dude Donald's the fucking worst he was over all the time dude I fucking hated him we all have that friend who's like over all the time you know who's like our really good friend but like oh my god we can't stand them and the moment somebody else in the group is like being like oh I'm hey I'm down to
Starting point is 00:25:13 talk shit about this person you're like oh fuck yeah let's talk shit about this guy like that's everything that you've heard about Donald Trump basically before he became president as to like how he was sort of like regarded in these in these like circles so all of this to me just feels like petty rich guy bullshit like Epstein wanting to look like he's like in super control oh yeah I fucking end careers if I wanted to yeah yeah that's a caveat to like total conspiracy theorist victory here is like of course Epstein wants to see himself as a guy who's that powerful I guess as Travis like you have to take it from the context of emstein is the one who is reporting these sort of things and he's like
Starting point is 00:25:50 yeah yeah no I've fucking I've been foods over all those people yeah oh oh I'll get you I'll hook you up with them it could be an exaggeration it's hard to It's an unreliable narrator, as Travis said. He's like one of those guys who fucking did nothing with his life. He like, he like failed out of being a teacher, right? And then he just all of a sudden was like a quote unquote financier, like rich guy, unexplainable rich guy essentially. Yeah, very strange.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Like what did he have? What did he really have? Like he didn't have a cool media company. Like, you know, he was famous for, you know, being able to like set up people's like security system. They were like, oh, Jeff's got the best tech. He essentially was like the pedophile version of like, Oh, like so-and-so always has like the latest LG.
Starting point is 00:26:31 You know what I mean? Like the guy whose tech set up is like, you know, slightly elevated. Like that that's what he, you know, they say that he would like set up for his like friends. Of course he probably like, he probably allowed himself to become an asset because it like made him feel powerful. Just speculating there. Just that last 30 seconds, a little bit of speculation. It's okay. We can have it a little every now and again just as a little treat.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Spiritually the most like upwardly mobile career path for 30 year old who shows. up to high school parties to pick up 17-year-olds. Yes. It's like, yeah, I'm fucking cool. I'm influential. I'm a massed CIA asset. Yeah, totally. That guy who was just, he was just a little too old to be showing up at the parties.
Starting point is 00:27:14 It's like Tripp McNeeley from Can't Hardly Wait. I don't know if either of you get that reference. But again, the four of you who do are probably will be reaching out to me on social media to say that you got the reference and thank you. But it's like that guy who's like a little too drunk, a little too dark, and like a little too predatory and like maybe shouldn't be there. That's his vibe to me. That's why I use an imitation of a guy I knew who was like kind of predatory and would get
Starting point is 00:27:41 like dark drunk and like he would get into fights and he was my friend and like but he would get me in all sorts of mischief. And there's a reason that I do that like impression like when I do my Epstein is because like I just in all of his communication you can sense that kind of like dark immature energy. In January of 2015, Epstein confided in Wolf about protecting certain associates. He wrote that, quote, out of respect and love, he had kept a former serious girlfriend out of his legal troubles. This girlfriend wasn't named. But Epstein noted that this girlfriend travel with me everywhere. She knows Bell Clinton was never on the island. No sex with Stephen
Starting point is 00:28:18 Hawking and no sex with the hood, Barack, as he was also never on the island. He emphasized that... Clinton was never, ever there, never. And asks Wolf's advice on who should break the story. To clear up rumors. Now, what caveat is true, there is no evidence that Clinton ever set foot on Little St. James, but he did fly on Epstein's private jet 27 times between 2002 and 2003. He's like, well, I'll tell you what, Jeff, too risky for me to step on the island with Hillary and Chelsea and everything going on in my life.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I really can't be on the island, but I'll tell you what, got an idea. He's like, I've got an idea how we can get to these women. He's like, you can pit me up in the plane. We could fly back, we can fly back and forth. The plane can't, the plane will be my island, see, because we can record as many trips this will want, but then I'll never have stepped foot. If they ever come calling, if the farmer ever comes knocking, looking for his seeds, you know, I could say I was never there, you know, just on the plane. Right? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Wolf provided feedback on various Epstein predicaments when Epstein learned that Reuters was preparing a story about a lawsuit accusing Epstein of Trump of raping an underage girl. There's a 2016 Jane Doe lawsuit. It was later withdrawn. But Wolf wrote this about this potential story. Well, I guess if there's anybody who can wave this away is Donald. Wolf then offered, let me know if there's anything I can do. Ugh, fuck, what a do?
Starting point is 00:29:46 It's weird. Oh my God. He must sleep on a bed of slime. Yeah. Epstein's emails also include exchanges. with Prince Andrew, who's referred to as the Duke in some instances. Oh, no. The Duke.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Oh, my God. So this was at the height of Andrew's scandal over Virginia Jufri's accusations against Prince Andrew. In March of 2011, Epstein forged Andrew an alert about an upcoming daily mail story on Jufre's claims against him. Andrew replied this. What? I don't know any of this. How are you responding? Epstein responded that as lawyers would send a letter and then said strangely,
Starting point is 00:30:28 I'm not sure how to respond. The only person she didn't have sex with was Elvis. Jesus. Yeah, that's pretty fucking awful. Awful, awful, these guys. It's like the worst, the deepest, darkest fraternity brothers, like all on email together, like, raping. Andrew also emailed Elaine Maxwell, who forwarded it to Epstein, urgently insisting. You must say, in all caps, I know nothing but any of these allegations.
Starting point is 00:30:57 This has nothing to do with me. I can't take any more of this. Jesus. It's like, yeah, what a weird. Doesn't have the stomach for being part of the, you know, fucking sex cabal. You must say! Yeah. That makes sense that the royalty would get especially spooked about it.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Well, he's getting kicked out, isn't he? I mean, he's getting tossed into the holiday here. Yeah, he's not Prince Andrew anymore. They use his full name, don't they? Yeah, I guess so. Oh, he gets like a middle and a last name now. Yeah, yeah, because he's not the prince. Damn, it's like kind of like losing your wings as an angel or something.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Yeah, yeah. Damn, that sucks. I wonder what's going to happen to him. He's going to become like some sort of weird Pierce Morgan type, probably. Epstein also corresponded in 2018, 2019, with Steve Bannon, the former White House strategist and influential right-wing podcaster. In 2018, Epstein offered to leverage his international content. for Bannon, saying this.
Starting point is 00:31:54 There are many leaders of countries we can organize for you to have one-on-ones with. It's like if, like, this is apparently, this is response to Bannon potentially traveling to Europe. Epstein also advised this. If you are going to play here, you'll have to spend some time. Europe by remote doesn't work. I was always like fucking advising. Like, like recently, 2018. It's like, oh yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I've got contacts all over Europe. Let me show you how it works. Yeah, you have to assume, because again, you know, the caveat of like Epstein is obviously like you know over emphasizing his own importance but like they're all coming to him for this so it's not like it's not like he doesn't probably have contacts all across Europe it's like yeah this is how European politicians like to do it as I hang out with them all this you know so much yeah he's such a fucking piece of shit he says if you want to play here like you want to play in the European sandbox what a fucking loser like what he's such a loser
Starting point is 00:32:51 That's what I'm saying. Like, he was so, so much of a loser that he became so good at, like, manipulating and, like, capturing women, like, essentially because that was the only way that it would work. And he was so good at it that the other fucking elite losers were, especially, look at Donald Trump, the loserist of them all was like, oh, Jeff is get away with women, you know, like, he's got it. It's like that the fraternity of losers, you know, I won't get into that. Yeah, it's like, one thing you really get through this is that like, yeah, it's like, these are all fucking, like, Like, awkward weirdos, all of them. You can't fucking spell. You're very confused about how things work very frequently.
Starting point is 00:33:28 It's, I don't know. It's disappointing. Yeah. It's a professional loser. It's just, yeah, how do you make the most money, like, harassing high school girls? And they all hate Trump the most because he's the biggest loser, but he's got actual real power and, like, has the ability to really make them make a shit ton of money if they, you know, kind of hold their noses, you know, while, while he talks to them. The 2018 emails also seemed to show Epstein helping Bannon devise a defense of Trump's administration's policies, which I think it was interesting because he went from like, yeah, I could totally take him down. He's so awful.
Starting point is 00:34:04 But what happened is that when Trump started talking about tax cuts, he all of a sudden started devising strategies to help this policy. So basically, he wrote the ban in aiming to rebut critics who said that the tax cuts mainly benefited the rich. Epstein said this. We can discuss the response to tax cut criticism. The 83% to the rich is misleading by Miles, cashback, pension funds up. I mean, if there's anything like really more emblematic of American politics, it's a notorious billionaire pedophile trying to advise as a strategy to make people believe that tax cuts won't mainly benefit the rich.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah. He really is the average, like, billionaire I've seen. It's a perfect, a perfect amalgamation of all of them. Norm's guy, but, like, he's like, well, Trump is fine because, you know, tax cuts. Because he's, like, easy to manipulate and he has no moral code whatsoever. Like, this is exactly who you want. Epstein also kept Bannon appraised of his interactions with other members of the ultra-wealthy Trump-adjacent circle, effectively networking through Bannon. And the message on August 18th, 2018, Epstein gave Bannon this heads up.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Message on back Wednesday. Deal coming. Yeah, Tiel, yeah, Peter's on meeting with Peter Thiel, just to know. So we're going to be hanging out with you, me, Peter Thiel, let's do it. So despite their frequent communication, both Epstein and Bandon, they appeared aware of the need for secrecy. Their messages show conscious efforts to avoid public detection with meeting in person. Which is so funny because, like, why are you emailing that? It's like the worst, it's like the least secure way of communicating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:39 You get a download signal existed in 2018, didn't it? Yeah. It's like Jeffie do crime. Jeffie doing crime with his friends. On August 23rd, 2018, Epstein suggested an in-person get-together while he was in New York City, writing this. B.T. Dub, I'm in New York tonight through Saturday
Starting point is 00:35:59 if you want to visit under the cover of darkness or have breakfast tomorrow, if you like. It's like, we could meet, you know, under the darkness of the new moon, if that's chill with you. He's like, I could show up at your place with rubber gloves and a fucking body bag if you want. So Bannon's response like raise security concerns.
Starting point is 00:36:23 So this is what Bannon said. Do you have access to it's not the front door? They have 24-7 surveillance on you. He's like, you know, you are notorious criminals so you're being surveilled. So, like, do you have like a better entrance for me? And he's not even spelling Y-O-W. He's using the letter you on both.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Epstein offered to come to Bannon instead, but also proposed a co-executive. covert entry to his own property, writing this. There's also a rear entrance on 67th Street, if you prefer, super secure. He added this. Someone can meet you and take you in. So they're making these secret ways to like... I know, this is so like one of the brothers will meet you through the back door of the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:37:03 There are late plates available. Now, this is really interesting. So the last known communication between Ben and Epstein took place on July 6, 2019, which was the very day that Epstein was arrested on federal sex trafficking charges in New Jersey. So in the morning, just hours before the arrest, Epstein and Bandon were like, they're actively texting about logistics for a documentary project that was, this is insane, to rehabilitate Epstein's image. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I want to see the alternate universe where Epstein isn't charged and you get one of the like kind of mega universe style documentaries about how Epstein is actually innocent. Yeah. Like we would do an episode on that. That would be a good, that'd be a good future QAA episode. Who knows, maybe the polls will flip. So Bannon was eager to press ahead with the filming of this documentary and ask Epstein this. If we can arrange it, can we film on the island?
Starting point is 00:37:58 Yeah, this is referring to Little St. James, the, yes, the pedophile island. Ben is asking if he can go to the island. No, this is like, oh, my God. This is like one of Trump's main, like, boosters, advisor to the White House asking Epstein in 2018. Again, fairly recently, could we go to the island, maybe, you know? Which, if you're trying to rehab, like, Epstein's image, like, that would be good to go to the island and be, like, go into the temple or whatever and be like, look, it's just like a bunch of, like, arcade machines or like he collects, he collects, like, old, like vintage, like penny slots or something like that. And you could be like, oh, all right, well, maybe there's like, all right, well, this seems like a little bit more harmless. But the crazy thing was is that Epstein agreed.
Starting point is 00:38:40 He texted back, yes. And then they discussed meeting late that morning to continue work. Epstein suggested, Can we do late morning, say 11 a.m. He's on the podcast to your sleep schedule. He's like, no, I can't do not. I'm not up yet. So Bannon, presumably awaiting Epstein's arrival for a filming session,
Starting point is 00:39:00 later texted at 437 p.m. You are, the letter R, not coming in, question mark. And he received no reply, unbeknownst to Bannon. By that time, Epstein had been taken into coming. custody by FBI agents at Tieterboro Airport around 4 p.m. after returning from Paris. He's like in the, in the back of the police van handcuffed. And he's like, oh, fuck, Bannon. I mean, I know. This is, I mean, this is crazy because it's like, yeah, they were fucking, like, texting beer hours before he was taken in by the FBI. Yeah. And it's also like, I remember the political climate around Epstein at that time because that was one of the big conspiracies I was into was like explaining to someone Jeffrey Epstein in like,
Starting point is 00:39:42 2017 and being like, no, no, trust me, it's like real. It like sounds silly, but it's real. Like, there's no, it's so horrifically bad in fucking 2018, 2019 to be like, 2019 to be like, yeah, yeah, no. It's also, beyond it being bad, it's so incredibly stupid to think you can do that, to like pull that off. I mean, these guys, they was like, they are so fucking arrogant. They just like they thought like, it's like, regardless of what you did, regardless of like, the fact that he was like literally like a registered sex offender and like, you know, there's like there's lots of like really damning reporting about him by this point and thought, I can recover from this and be seen as a cool guy again.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yet he really thought that he was totally untouchable. And even if he was touched, I guess like, you know, if he was the rest of it, even if his reputation was harmed in some way, it was recoverable. That's like these people and the amount of money they have, they're like different species than us because they're just like, oh, no problem. Like, I'll just buy my way out of this. Like, I don't ever have to face like any real. Like I've never actually had to.
Starting point is 00:40:42 face any kind of consequences ever you would think like someone who is like a bit smarter like i assume that this was the elite attitude at this point if you're epstein is just like i got to lay low right like i've been burned you know you can't you can't be doing all that anymore and just like lay low you have a shit ton of money but no they were like no no no the comeback to her like let's do it even like low level like mobsters know that like they're like yeah we got to get out of town for a couple of weeks be like lay low for lay low for the rest of this season be like You know, like, they, over, like, wait, you know, over, you know, like stamp fraud or something like that, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:20 We also have to talk about the Bubba email. This is, this is something that was made, perhaps the most famous exchange. It went viral who was talked about, like on all the comedy shows. It was all over social media. So what happened was is that in one of the released emails, Mark Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein's brother, suggest to ask Steve Bannon if Putin has, quote, photo of Trump blowing Bubba, to which Epstein replied, and I thought I had Zoris. This is, I guess, Yiddish for Troubles, how you pronounce this?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Soros. Okay, all right. It's like woes. It's like, yeah, it's like a specific kind of like social woes. Oh, okay. So it's a little bit more nuanced in its meaning, interesting. That's always what I thought it meant. That's always what I thought it meant.
Starting point is 00:42:05 So Mark Epstein then responds, you and your boy, Donnie, can make a remake of the movie Get Hard. This is interesting because Get Hard is a comedy film from 2015 starring Will Ferrell and Kevin Hart about investment baker who prepares for life in prison. Damn, I never thought we would be like baking a Will Ferrell movie like in Epstein emails. Who directed that? This is, oh, fuck, this is the other interesting thing about Get Hard is that it was directed by Israeli American director Eaton Cohen. Oh, yeah, Aiton Cohen. who that is. I mean, I don't know him personally, but I know of his work. Yeah, people had a lot of fun with this because Bubba so happens to be a common nickname for Bill Clinton. In fact, in the emails
Starting point is 00:42:51 themselves, the cashed emails, Bill Clinton is frequently, I think it was like five different times referred to as Bubba. So people said this, so if you like really read this, like if you have that reading of it, it sounds like Epstein is saying that Putin has photos of Donald Trump giving Bill Clinton fallacious, you know? which is obviously ludicrous. And then people further claim that Gislaine Maxwell once owned a horse named Bubba, which as far as I could,
Starting point is 00:43:19 which would be even funnier because it means that Trump blew a horse. But as far as I can tell, this one's just an internet rumor. This one's just made out. Do we know maybe it's like an inside joke that they had? My friends have a series of photographs like from when we all live together. We had a pool and I took a series of like mostly nude photographs like out by the pool wearing a proton pack just for like giggles.
Starting point is 00:43:41 We were like really kind of like fucked up that day. And so like we always are like, oh, the proton pack photo shoot, you know, it's like kind of a thing like maybe Trump pretended to blow Bill Clinton. I don't know. Like it could be some sort of inside joke maybe. The most insane part of it is the like the Putin having photos of Trump performing a sexual act like the implication there. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:03 It could be like a Russiagate joke because it's in, it's from 2018. Yeah, it does. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. So Mark Epstein himself, he, like, he actually responded to the speculation, but not by offering a lot of details beyond the denial of the claim that Bubba was referring to Clinton. I remember seeing the quote, he was like angry about it. And it's like, you can't be on your moral high horse about this. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're in the emails.
Starting point is 00:44:27 The contents of this are private. And it's like your. Fucking hell. Jeffrey Epstein's brother. I know. Exactly. Like. Here's what Mark Epstein told News Nation.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I'm not discussing that email. This is a private email between Jeffrey and myself, his two brothers talking. It's nobody's business what we wrote. The only thing I responded to is because people got crazy with the Bubber reference, and they tried to pin it on Clinton. So I made a public statement that it was not any reference to Bill Clinton. I like Bill Clinton, and I didn't want, sorry for him that he had to go through that. But the email had nothing to do with Clinton, and that's my last word on that email.
Starting point is 00:45:03 It's like, well, why did you just say, like, you're right, it could just be like a, like, just joke. Like, ah, this is the kind of like blackmail material Putin may have, or this is the kind of blackmail material that like crazy Democrats are saying that Putin has on Trump or something. What you just say it's a joke? Not like, this is private. It's not Clinton. Not going to say who it is though. Yeah. It is very like people are very bad a lot of the times that like thinking about what would make conspiracy theories go more insane. And this context we're all conspiracy theories. Like that one isn't, none of this response is reassuring. And of this will have the effect that you wanted to have?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Like, did he think everyone was going to be like, oh, okay, sorry, I guess it is, I guess I didn't think about the fact that it is a private email, and it's kind of inconsiderate of me to want to know who Bubba is. Like, no, it's the president, like, talking about Epstein. And it also implies that Bannon is, like, in contact with Putin, being like, oh, you're with Bannon, ask him if Putin has the, uh, has the Trump blowjob, blowjob picks. It could be, you know, it could be Trump blowing bubbles, maybe, with a bubble machine. here's the thing it's like there's lots obviously obviously i think it's ludicrous mostly because i believe
Starting point is 00:46:15 bill clinton and donald trump would be very discreet about their lovemaking they would not they would not photograph it that's too crude yeah yeah i just i love the someone was it a tingeamentum he's been on the the podcast once was talking was baking the big beautiful bill yeah what does that mean I mean essentially if that's real then Q and on is right is that they're all talking in code in public and they're all talking about the devious sex things that they're doing behind the backs and they're all in league and they're all a part of the cabal and they're gay and they're blowing each other and Trump's compromise to you know what I mean like that's my read on it is like like it just seems like a crude joke but like my explanation is kind of like kind of like screwed up by like Mark Epstein's weird sort of denial of. of it, it was a statement that added more confusion than clarity. Yeah. Yeah, and we'll never fucking know. And once, I think a lot of people online had, like, kind of a homophobic joke that
Starting point is 00:47:14 they could instantly kind of, like, you know, sort of like press Trump into, like, they just went with it. Like, if you look online, like, on like, blue sky and shit, it is settled science that Trump blew Bill Clinton just because that's like the most degrade, for whatever reason they think that's like the most degrading thing because they want to imagine Trump so degraded because that makes it like not so bad that he still has absolute power over us.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah. This one was, it did feel like a return of you know, the level of like, was it last month, two months ago of like Bella Chow is actually a Groyper song. But it didn't feel like it's worth it on this one. It's like, oh, get your jokes in, whatever. Yeah. It's like the couch fucking stuff. It's like they love this. They love, they love
Starting point is 00:48:00 weird, you know, weird kink shaming, you know, gay shaming, whatever it is. Because they think that their enemies hate it because they're Christian. So they're like, ah, you hate it the most. The worst one overwhelmingly was that Elon Musk is like, what was it? Elon Musk is like the wife of Donald Trump and he's transgender. Yeah. And they're, you know, that was the classic, that was classic like blue sky lip, homophobia.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yeah. They just, they got confused and they started copying from the, to try to own the MAGA people. they started like copying it and like filling doing their own kind of like mad libs but just subbing in different people and they didn't realize they were also adopting their like hatred their racism their homophobia just you like borrowed the style you borrowed the style and like it's it's making your your substance worse that was the most absurd one recently and like i mean i think that they were lips engaging with this there were definitely conservatives ironically doing it was like talking about how like Aryan Newsom is in his family because it's like he's an incredibly white looking
Starting point is 00:49:03 and they're being like oh well JD Vance is like an Indian wife and like mixed kids that's like yeah I mean that would piss him off I guess but it's also like I don't know maybe maybe go a bit too hard into that yeah what are we even doing this this just look at this we have these emails and we're gonna get actually nothing actually nothing will come up this but here but here we are with this stream of emails and he's saying he had Cirrus, which is so weird because that's like something that, like, you know, my, like, grandparents would say, like, oh, he's Soros. Yeah, like, your troubles.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Oh, my God. And they're referencing Get Hard and they're like, does Putin have compromise? And fucking he signs, Mark Epstein signs his, his emails with sent via tin can and string. So he's got like a cute little, like, sign off as he's on with this brother pedophile. Why do we have access to this if we can't get the whole fucking thing?
Starting point is 00:49:57 I think either give us all of it or give us none of it. We can't have a limited amount of information. We can't have this like a small, a small sliver of the pie, you know? Sorry, please continue. I just can't believe, I can't believe we're reading through all this stuff. Again, it feels like we're always going to be unearthing a trove of Epstein documents. Obviously, there are many who are like reasonably skeptical about the existence of a photo of Trump blowing Bill Clinton. and among them is Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Oh. There's no video of President Trump sucking a ding-dong. And so what if there was? That's a lot better than World War III, O'N. I never sucked any ding-dongs. But I'll tell you, if they were going to blackmail me to start World War III about one, I'd say, hey, I sucked a golf ball through a freaking garden hose. Also, Alex Jones has absolutely sucked a penis.
Starting point is 00:50:52 He's a insane chaser. He was caught his transport on his phone. Like, it was ridiculous. I think this is kind of a base take. Like, so what, you know what? So what if he did? So what if he sucked off Bill Clinton? Yeah, well, I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:51:05 There's like, the two grown men sharing a moment of intimacy funny to you? Exactly. No, he's right. So what? I also, I love the, the wide view pop-up shot of his, like, henchman's reaction to him saying, so what if he sucked to think, Tom. But, you know, what's amazing is that, like, we don't know whether. It's like, I would like to tell you for sure what this Bubba email was.
Starting point is 00:51:26 But we don't. It's like there's a level of unknown that is, we just can't cross. So there's like one sense, you can choose to believe what you want because like no one can prove it false. And, you know, there's a lot of like amazing TikToks like joking about this. And I came across one that like expressed, I think a really interesting sentiment, which is that the, the TikToker didn't really care if the claim was true because we live in an information environment. Well, people just constantly say ludicrous things. so she felt like she just wanted to be wanted to do it too she wanted to take part i understand i understand that yeah it's like it's like if you'll never know for sure why not just believe the thing that is the most affirming or that makes you the happiest at the very least like because oftentimes the reality is just so much more mundane like this actually might be true but in a boring way where like they were at some party and like trump like you know took too like hit the join a little bit too hard and like got really silly And, like, put his, and he's like, oh, Malika Lewinsky, I'm Monica, look at me, I'm look at me, I'm Monica.
Starting point is 00:52:31 And, like, got down on his knees and, like, you know, like, you know, for a goofy picture with the fellas goofing around. And they got a couple photos of it. He's like, put makeup on me, and I'll be manicure for the night. You know, you know, I mean, weird guys do weird things in fraternity parties and stuff. And, like, it might be, like, kind of true. Like, maybe Epstein does have a photo, but Bubba could be like a statue of a fish, you know? And it's like a statue of the fish that's in one of Epstein's place. And, like, Trump got, like, a little bit.
Starting point is 00:53:00 He, like, ate too much of the edible, you know, like too many edibles one night. And he's like, ah, Baba the fish. She goes, oh, look, I'm blowing the fish. You know what I mean? And they've got photos of it. It's like, you never, you never know. And oftentimes the truth is just so much more boring and not nearly as dramatic as we get, you know, we speculate until we find out what's real.
Starting point is 00:53:23 So this is, yeah, this is what this TikTok said. So I don't care if the Bill Clinton, Donald Trump thing isn't true. It's true to me, okay? If people can believe that raw milk is good for you and that vaccines are bad for you and that God in heaven told them to not celebrate Halloween, then I can believe that Donald Trump blew Bill Clinton. I can do that. If they can believe that there are lizard people running the world,
Starting point is 00:53:49 I can believe that he's Samsung spin-wash Bill Clinton. I can 100, oh, so suddenly we can't believe things now. Yeah, I mean, everyone, everyone is just Qadon. You might as well, like, if you're going to be Q&O, you might as well be it in just like a kind of silly, harmless way. But see, here's something interesting. She seems like a normal, reasonable person that you might meet on the street. Why is she like, you know what I choose to believe?
Starting point is 00:54:13 And because I'm believing it, I probably imagined it a couple of times, is like fat old Donald Trump with Bill Clinton's dick in his mouth. Like, why would you? you like, yeah, that's the belief and that's like what, why would you want to imagine that sort of thing? Because it's funny. It's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, all, what, all guys blowing each other? Like, what's funny
Starting point is 00:54:32 about that? You're saying, you're not saying it's a little funny to imagine Bill Clinton tapping it on Trump's tongue. Putting the party and lemon party. I do, I do have to say that I was, it's hard not to want to do some kind of like bit where I'm doing Bill Clinton
Starting point is 00:54:48 in that position, but I'll spare our listeners. So I guess, yeah, it's kind of funny. But so is the couch fucking, so is all of it. It's funny, but as Travis always says, it doesn't take away any power. It doesn't take away any real power. All it does is take away that the
Starting point is 00:55:04 power that you have in your mind about that person. So how did the conspiracist in Q&on community react to the recent release of Epstein emails and documents? So, on true social, President Trump himself set the tone immediately after the House
Starting point is 00:55:20 Democrats publicized the Epstein emails, Trump blasted the revelations as a hoax. In a true social post, he accused Democrats of Trying to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein hoax again because they'll do anything at all to deflect on how badly they've done on the shutdown. So Q&M promoter Zach Payne offered his interpretation of the dog that hasn't barked email. He claimed that actually affirmed the theory that Trump did nothing wrong in relation to Epstein and that Trump was actually some kind of Epstein whistleblower.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Of course, this is what it has to. to be. You know, a whistleblowing is very similar to not barking. This email, which doesn't even say anything about Donald Trump having done something bad. In fact, it's questioning why it is that Donald Trump's name has not come up in any respect. It's not because Donald Trump had done something inappropriate with Virginia Jeffray, but it's likely because Donald Trump was the whistleblower that was responsible for Jeffrey Epstein getting wrapped up in the case in the first place. The dog that hasn't barked is Trump. The reason he hasn't been mentioned is not because he not because he did something wrong and was paying people off, but because he didn't do anything
Starting point is 00:56:31 wrong. And he also went to the police and the FBI about this entire thing. I'm sure you remember Speaker Mike Johnson saying Donald Trump was an FBI whistleblower. Yeah, no, barking is when you make noise about a thing and are not involved. Yeah. I mean, yeah. You know, They, you know, cute on people have went through much greater hoops, leave through much greater hoops than whatever weird. Admittedly, as we said, ambiguous, justifying their interpretation in what it is like a kind of weird, admittedly ambiguous phrasing. You know, it should be no surprise.
Starting point is 00:57:04 It is like, you know, because it is a shame that like Epstein is so, like, poorly articulate and, like, unable to, that we don't just have a thing where he's just like, yeah, he fucked them kids. Yeah, all the evidence that they recovered from his various properties. They're just like, we'll release his like misspellings in like 2000 of his emails where he's like, ha ha, McDonald's Happy Meal, fuck driving through with Bannon. Yeah. The email where it does like admit that Trump is complicit, but like Epstein was trying to be cool. He's just trying to sound epic and like worldly and like he knows references. So it just makes it like confusing.
Starting point is 00:57:39 It'll never be, I don't know. It'll never be perfect somehow. You would think something would fucking come out. I mean, I don't know. This is pretty different. I don't know still, but... Now, what about Trump's claim that the Epstein case is a hoax? Now, this is confusing because, like, you know, the many sort of like conspiratorial
Starting point is 00:57:55 Trump supporters, you know, are some of the most vocal about the Epstein case under the belief that it will hurt primarily Democrats or maybe even corrupt Republicans, but leave Trump unharmed. But now he's like, he's railing against the Epstein. What does he mean by hoax? It's like ambiguous. It doesn't quite clarify what he means by that. So QLON promoter, Burning Brown.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Wright had an interesting theory, which he expressed to fellow Q&N promoter John Harold, is that by hoax, Trump may be referring to the idea that Epstein tried to entrap Trump at 2011, but failed. And since then, an exaggerated narrative about the Epstein case has been promoted in order to smear Trump. It's just a lot of extra shit. It's like he's saying, these fuckers tried to compromise me in 2011. So they're pulling a hoax then. And since that didn't work, they concocted they, meaning the whole media apparatus, has concocted this whole mythology around Jeffrey Epstein specifically to tie me into it, which I think is more what you're suggesting. That seems to be what Trump is suggesting by a lot of his posts, if he's not just purely
Starting point is 00:59:01 rugging everybody, saying it's a hoax. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it could simultaneously be true that Epstein and Maxwell were intel operators attempting to compromise Donald Trump and be true that a lot of the story we've been told about them is not true and was seated into the community, right? Because if they couldn't compromise him in 11, based on all that stuff, does the deep state then burn an asset like Jeffrey Epstein and try to draw Trump into the story about this massive cover up? Because it's certainly kind of what it looks like in hindsight. Yeah. To me, to me, that's happening and this email i think um cancom made the point this morning that makes trump definitely
Starting point is 00:59:45 sound like like an asset and fbi in format what's even the point of qanon like you're so obsessed with like holding the pedophiles accountable that you're like maybe this jiffrey fc does like not as bad as they say he is i know it's like you're so you're so fucking in the kudan this is like a real fucking like qanon horseshoe theory you've called so far around like maybe the media has been pro the, like an exaggerate story of Epstein. Yeah, the, the, the real evil people is, it's Chrissy Teigen, not Jeffrey Epstein. Jesus, yeah. Like, that's the one you really have to focus on.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah, yeah, it's like, you know, it's like, yeah, really, it's like, you know, it's like, Tom Hanks. It's not, it's not fucking Galane Maxwell. I watched that clip and I'm like, it's just two white guys in their late 30s, potentially early 40s telling you what they think. It's like, two guys being like, yeah, well, it's just like two guys. around a kitchen island they stayed too late at the party like guys that are just like posted up like elbows up being like I'll have another beer too oh you guys there there are more
Starting point is 01:00:51 beers oh I'll stay for a while and then they're just like yeah and what do you think about like there's no reason we should be listening to these guys what authority do they have at all it's just two white guys in the early 40s talking about theories now this isn't over. Actually, just today, the day we're recording this, House Representatives voted overwhelmingly to pass legislation to compel the Justice Department to release all of its records related to Epstein. And the Senate approved unanimous consent that the measure passed there, which means that it just has been sent to Trump's desk, who, actually, in a recent reversal of his stance,
Starting point is 01:01:32 has sign it into law, which is, I think, interesting, which makes me believe there's going to be, it's going to be more bullshit, more confusing nonsense, nothing that incriminating. Trump must have got the word that, like, whatever, whatever is to be released by this legislation can't be that damning to him. Otherwise, he wouldn't have signaled that it's okay. But yeah, so that's, that's where we are now with, like, we have some documents. It's some interesting things.
Starting point is 01:01:56 It reveals some sort of, like, information gaps in what we know about Epstein's connections, but it's like not, it's not telling the whole story. We know there's more there. And, like, we have the continued promise that. The future document dumps. Well, maybe we'll give us a more complete picture. But, of course, you know, we just don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:14 It's my understanding. Is it Pambondi, the A.G. is able to redact things in the release related to you, among other things, national security. Yeah. Ongoing, ongoing investigations, protecting, you know, and any of victims. That is, you know, I wouldn't be too hopeful about this, I feel like. That's my. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:33 That's my general advice to the listener about politics. but also about this. Yeah, this is like the hot dog standing next to the like car crash, like starting the like accident investigation committee, you know, being like absolutely be like I'm calling for full transparency. I don't know. It's a weird move. Yeah, it's a weird move. Of course the, you know, the QAnon Bakers, the old school guys like Kate's are like, oh, like he's been, you know, he knows it's going to be a bombshell. And so he's been playing coy and calling it a hoax to get the Democrats to demand the release basically.
Starting point is 01:03:06 because he's going to trick them. It's always about Trump tricking the Democrats into, like, doing something. And therefore, because he did it on purpose, there's no way that the information in there could, you know, be damning for him. And if anything, it's going to start triggering. It's going to be the, you know, the trigger of the storm. Yeah, right. They're still happy. They're still doing great.
Starting point is 01:03:29 And they're winning. Yeah. This explanation is always weird to be. It's like Republicans control the whole of government. But still, he's like, Trump. needs to play 5D chests in order to trick and lure and, like, and trap the Democrats left and right. It's like, it's fucking, it's like, it's like they're still acting like the,
Starting point is 01:03:46 you know, the, the underground guerrilla fighters when they have all the power. Yeah. I wonder how they're going to keep this up for the next, like, three years. So much, so much stuff already. The Epstein, from going from Epstein Hogue to, you know, Epstein Transparency Act, to all these new emails to, to lots of mentions of Donald Trump, like oh god this is just we're still in the first year yeah how are we gonna how are we sure i'm sure like like like trump's team is like is like asking the same thing it's like like all right
Starting point is 01:04:16 we just need to keep stringing people along this this fucking this fstein bullshit for the next three years we just need to find out with a feed them slop and like give them give them like you know thousands of thousands of documents to chew over once in a while and then like they'll feel like they're being productive they'll feel they'll sound like it's uh like things are being exposed even while we like we you know we just uh work you know ethnically cleansing the country and and cutting taxes we're reaching levels of like brandon that i've never been seen before i think like 2022 joseph biden of like there is no there is no recession their inflation isn't real like shut the fuck up that is the trump line inflation is not real shut the fuck up did you guys
Starting point is 01:04:56 see the the on the plane today a reporter was trying to ask a question he was like quiet piggy Called her Piggy, because he was asking about inflation. It's a winning strategy, folks. Unreal. This guy is like, you have to actually believe, you have to have a galaxy brain to still support him, kind of. Because like, it's so, there have been so many off ramps. And if you're still here and you're watching him go, quiet pig, you know, on like a plaintiff or a reporter, you know, you've got to. And you said, you know, that Biden was, you know, for four years, you were like, Joseph Biden is fucking, you know, sleepy Joe.
Starting point is 01:05:30 and he's, you know, pooping his pants and all this stuff. Like, can't feel good. It can't feel good. It has to be part of something. It has to end in Jesus coming back, actually. Travis just went, okay, all right, all right. But really, it does. It has to.
Starting point is 01:05:47 It's so bad. You've had to convince yourself of such slop to make it through as a Trump and MAGA supporter for eight or 12, however many years. Because, like, we'll count Biden's presidency, too. And now for another three years? I know. Oh, my goodness. I just think of this, the man who's teaching us Yiddish words is pining for Jesus' return.
Starting point is 01:06:07 If you're following politics, like, at any kind of frequency, jokes on you. You're miserable. No matter who you are, you're miserable, and you have to detach further and further from reality to buy what these people are trying to sell you. Yeah, no. It's only going to get worse, and they're only going to get more pedophilic in summary. Yeah, I just, if everybody's got to. Got the hoots.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I'm so sick of people being like, oh, this is the dump. It's like, we've been saying this for years. I remember, like, I had a foolish belief that, like, Trump wouldn't even make it, wouldn't even be able to take office in 27 to, whatever, 20, you know, after the 2016 election. Because there was, like, so much stuff like,
Starting point is 01:06:51 oh, he won't, he'll be arrested beforehand. Oh, there's all this stuff that's coming out, all this audio, stuff. It seemed like I was told he was basically, you know, it was going to be a failure. to launch. And here we are, however many years, well, well into a decade, into the Trump era. Like, I just, I feel like I'm withering away at, like, the base of, like, a dead tree. Like, you know what I mean? It's just, how can we possibly go any for another year, let alone
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Starting point is 01:08:24 Would you sign that bill if it gets to your desk? I do want to say... Here's what I want. We have nothing to do with Epstein, the Democrats do. All of his friends were Democrats. You look at this Reid Hoffman, you look at Larry Summers, Bill Clinton. They went to his island all the time, and many others. They're all Democrats. All I want is I want for people to recognize a great job that I've done on pricing, on affordability, because we brought prices way down, but they go way lower, on energy, on ending eight wars. and another one coming pretty soon, I believe.
Starting point is 01:09:02 We've done a great job. And I hate to see that deflect from the great job we've done. So I'm all for it. You know, we've already given 50,000 pages. You do know that. Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation, with the Martin Luther King situation, not to put Jeffrey Epstein in the same category,
Starting point is 01:09:24 but no matter what we give, it's never enough. You know, with Kennedy, we gave everything, and it wasn't enough. With Martin Luther King, we gave everything and it's never enough. We've already given, I believe the number is 50,000 pages, 50,000 pages. And it's just a Russia, Russia, Russia hoax
Starting point is 01:09:43 as it pertains to the Republicans. Now, I believe that many of the people that we, some of the people that we mentioned are being looked at very seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein. But they were with them all the time. I wasn't, I wasn't at all. And we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:10:03 What I just don't want Epstein to do is detract from the great success of the Republican Party, including the fact that the Democrats are totally blamed for the shutdown. You know, they cost our country hundreds of billions of dollars with that, at a lot of inconvenience. So I'm for any, I don't, they can do whatever they want. We'll give them everything.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Sure, I would. Let the Senate look at it. Let anybody look at it. But don't talk about it too much because, honestly, I don't want to take it away from us. It's really a Democrat problem. The Democrats were Epstein's friends, all of them. And it's a hoax.
Starting point is 01:10:45 The whole thing is a hoax. And I don't want to take it away from really the greatness of what the Republican Party has accomplished over the last period of time. You know,

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