QAA Podcast - Great Replacement Theory at the State Department feat. Josef Burton (E390)

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

The “Great Replacement” conspiracy theory claims that powerful elites are deliberately replacing white populations through immigration. Under the second Trump administration, people who speak its language are representing the United States abroad. Josef Burton returns to QAA for a tour of the increasingly pilled world of American diplomacy. He explains how the department actually works, then looks at the officials and political appointees bringing white nationalist conspiracism into its public messaging and immigration policy. Along the way, we discuss “remigration,” an ambassador whose online antics have caused diplomatic headaches in Belgium, and the truth behind State Department’s traditionally staid image Bruce Oreck’s Holiday Card https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/diplomatic-muscle-yes-ambassador-finlands-holiday-card-n282181 Josef Burton on Twitter https://x.com/PinstripeBungle Subscribe for $5 a month to get all the premium episodes: www.patreon.com/qaa Click here to become a subscriber to Cursed Media today to get access to new episodes of Raising Hell releasing right now, plus our other exclusive Cursed Media series: https://cursedmedia.net Produced by Liv Agar & Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (instagram.com/theyylivve / sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (pedrocorrea.com) qaapodcast.com QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.

UAA podcast episode 390. Great Replacement Theory at the State Department, featuring Joseph Burton. As always, we are your host, Jake Rakotansky, Julian Field, and Travis View. Welcome, dear listeners. This week, we are forced to look at a very uncomfortable reality, which is what happens when pilled people infiltrate and settle at the bottom of the fish tank. of, you know, one of the great levers of power in this country, the United States. The fish tank of the lever of power. All right.

Starting off this episode of some fantastic mixed metaphors. Travis is coming in a hot. I love this. Boy, he came in. Bring that Julian energy. I was going to edit myself and restart over and do a better intro. But no. Too late.

But no, we've got the border guard here to deny entry. Destroy his metaphor. Yeah. So basically here's what happened. Travis cooked up an episode with somebody real smart, smarter than us, who's been writing about the list of pilled people that are infiltrating the State Department. And I've always been one that said, Q&ON is never real, but they're going to make it real because they're going to run out of ideas.

And I fear that we're about to hear new ways in which that's coming to fruition. And I've always been one to say the State Department must be destroyed. Well, I did my part in destroying it by being a kind of shitty employee for the seven years. that I worked there. Oh, yeah, you quiet quit? Quiet, quiet quit, then I loud quit. So I'm Joseph, I'm coming back. It's great to be back on QAA.

But for this episode, instead of talking about the various weirdos I encountered kind of the outside of my job with, you know, like Iranian monarchists and the sort of foreign contacts that I stumbled upon and developed, I want to talk about the weirdos on the inside of the embassy walls and talk about the Pilled State Department. And specifically about the institutionalization of various forms of conspiracies. and conspiratorial thinking inside the State Department for this episode. So this is going to be a fun one. I'm not going to be airing too many of my personal grievances, and I won't be naming any names that don't already appear in the press.

But I think this is going to be an interesting ride into the freak show that is kind of taking over one of the most, I'd say, state and boring parts of the U.S. government. So not necessarily the bottom of the fish tank pulling the levers of power through their hose and the little diver guy. I'd say this is more about like the little pump and the little castle where the bubbles come out in the fish tank and the bubbles are saying that they're trying to replace white people with migrants. Dude, we fucking landed that so nice. That was, you brought it full circle. This is podcasting. What the hell is going on? Jake spends most of his time congratulating himself for doing his job.

You got to stay hype. Stay hype. Stay high. Dude, I mean, wouldn't you? I have a theme. degree and we're somehow on the precipice of like knowing like exactly which level of fucked up in this the world is going next like yeah yeah of course i'm i'm proud of myself that i'm i'm still standing i'm gonna stuff you into a locker with your theater degree they don't

even use lockers in high school anymore everybody carries their shit with them you got you couldn't you stuffed me into what so if you ever felt inadequate about your educational credentials or felt like a bit of a crank, you're going to feel a lot better once you figure out these days what it takes to become like an undersecretary of state for a bureau in the state department because this is it's going to get fun. So I think we might want to start this off by just like, what is the state department? And I think this is actually like, because it gets thrown around a lot. I for the first time on Twitter had someone accusing me of like, hey, there's no former state department people. Like I think you're a sciop and you're still on the payroll. And I really, I really had to bite my tongue of like,

do you want to see like a really depressing city premier checking account statement for a 40 year old man? I'm definitely not with the State Department anymore. But there's this idea of it's this nebulous thing, right? So the State Department is America's Foreign Affairs Agency. It's America's diplomatic core. And it has kind of a weird history, which means it has several obscure bureaucratic functions where under Benjamin Franklin and it was like almost the interior department. So there is, they are technically the key. of the great seal of the United States, like the official embossed seal of the U.S. government is in the

Department building. But it's it's a ministry for foreign affairs, right? And how does it work? And why are we talking about this as a place where lunatic-pilled people go? Right. And I think I might start with my good bureaucratic heart, you know, you can take the player at the game, but you can't take the game at the play. I'm still a bureaucrat. So how does the State Department organize, right? So the way the State Department works is you've got embassies and consulates and then you've got headquarters and both are organized as sort of mirrors of each other like for example an embassy has different departments they've got a consular section for visas and immigration citizens who get arrested or die that's what I did mostly like overseas yeah overseas so like this is like at the US embassy or consulate like the consular section is like

I'm a foreigner and I need a visa to go to America or like I'm an American citizen and I'm dead and I need my corpse to be repatriated that's a consular section problem right that's like walking into the embassy gate off the street and being like, this is my deal. So like you would have been working with like Jack from loss like because his father died in Australia. Yeah. No. Oh my God.

That was that was what I was doing. Yeah. Absolutely. Of like my my dad's dead in a hotel room and like, you know, who's this other woman who says that she's should all, you know, it's like all the family dramas, all the things like that. that is absolutely. Someone dies on vacation.

I had a very fun week once in Calcutta with a fast food executive who was going to bring Arby's to northeastern India who stroked out in his hotel room and I had to inventory all of his underpants in my office. Oh, no. Yeah, I also was kind of like the whole time I was like like, Arby's is like a roast beef based fast food chain and you're trying to bring this to India. Like, yeah, it's sick and a work, buddy. Like, nobody eats beef. Too bad he was eating it and so we saw the results. It is so embarrassing to die. Like dying is like, humiliating. Dying is like one of the most embarrassing. Oh, it's yeah. I hope I'm fucking alone. I hope I'm on the phone and nobody sees me.

To be honest, it's so much tidier when the hotel is just like, hey, there was a weird smell in there. And then we found his passport. And then it gets sent to me. It's like, you could just wrap that up pretty close. Yeah. Hotel. Yeah, they've got, I mean, hotels have been dealing with dead people in their rooms for centuries. I mean, that's.

Yeah. It's one of the things you go to a hotel to do. Yeah. Hotels are mostly full of dead people. Yeah. Who knows? I mean, mostly like, I don't hear anything of those holes. Who knows what's going on?

Okay. So you've got, that's the consular work. That's the fun stuff. You've also got like the fun stuff. Yeah, the fun stuff. You got the management section, which is like managing payroll for the embassy. You know, it's, you've got facilities, HR, the IT guy who works on your computer full of like crappy federal government visa software. The guys who do maintenance work in your, you know, consulate owned apartment.

Then you've got like the political section who hang around and like write their reporting cables back to D.C. You got the econ section. You probably got a military attach. You've probably got some other stuff hanging around. embassy that I'm not going to talk about. What do you mean? What do you mean? What kind of other stuff? I don't know. I cannot legally know about that. Spies are run out of the embassy, Jake. Spies. Oh, oh, I met a guy once who was a part of like Obama's IT department and he had like the best cocaine I've ever tried in my entire life. Was that the guy who died in Benghazi? No, he's still alive.

Oh, okay, good. Because there was a guy in Obama's State Department, IT department, who was a, a huge. huge posting legend on the something awful.com forums who died in the Benghazi. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh my God. Wow. And mom, I only tried it once. And you grew up in the 80s.

You were a kid in the 80s, so don't tell me a shit. All right. Sorry. Just had to get that out of the way. You're just like using the podcast as a platform to communicate with his mother. Well, she uses it as a platform to communicate with me. Yes, but there's one direction in which that's unacceptable. Okay.

So that's the embassy. We've got some embassies have podcasts. But there's also, if you think about it, there's a mirror version of that org chart that's happening back in D.C., right? So instead of embassies or consulates, the State Department is organized into what's called functional bureaus and regional bureaus. So regional bureaus are like what you'd expect. There's one called like Africa. There's one like Europe. There's one that's the Western Hemisphere.

But the functional ones are like foreign assistance, humanitarian affairs and religious freedom. That's all in one bureau, right? Or economic affairs. or like, you know, the whatever, bureaus are big structures. But, and this is really important. I want to put a pin in this for this podcast, but there's also what's called offices, which are sort of these like little bureaucratic packages inside the organization, which are smaller and task focused and can float in a big org chart.

And they're much easier to establish, disestablish, or staff up or disband, right? So you can have like an office for religious freedom. You can have an office for, I had the org chart pulled up on the browser. I just closed. But like all these little offices for like more. kind of programatical thing, like an office for arms control, an office for whatever. Like after school clubs. Like, yeah, they're out there. After school clubs. Yeah. Yeah. And so like if there's a policy area, you can do that. So the thing to understand about the State Department is because it is a

foreign policy agency, there's always been this understanding that like the president gets to do a bit more with kind of their vision. They can get a bit more Pinterest with it in the State Department. Right. So any president that comes in has their own vision for foreign policy and it's always accepted that because that's foreign policy and it's it changes more president to president, you can like tinker a lot more with the org chart than you can with like the Bureau of Fisheries or whatever. Like so, you know, if you come in and you're like and and you know like they they are Trump has pushed that where there's been understandings about like, hey, you can't just put some ketted out South African failed baby for in charge of the like Bureau of Land Management. Well, he kind of did.

But there's always been an understanding that the president gets to tinker a bit more with the State Department, right? And part of this is the fact that the United States is really the only country where you can have presidentially appointed ambassadors, right? Where most countries, the ambassador is just a diplomat who's served for a long, it's like being a general, right? Where it's like you are in the military for a long time and you ascend to a certain rank and then you become like the commander of whatever. and that would be like the height of your career as a professional diplomat. But in America, you could just be like the president's golf buddy and get appointed to be an ambassador. Oh, yeah. Oh, we are about to go gonzo mode with it. So even though the 1920 civil service reform act is the thing that established the State Department

as a professional diplomatic corps, the ambassadorships still focus, still operate like it was in the 19th century. We're like, they can just kind of make anyone ambassador. if the president wants to appoint them ambassador. So it's a bit of an American quirk, but these days it's becoming actually quite messy. Where the biggest problem right now with the Trump administration is he actually has not gotten around to appointing most of the ambassadorships.

So most U.S. embassies and consulates around the world do not have a working ambassador right now. They're just like, the office staff is just trying to like handle it because he hasn't found enough people he wants to make ambassador and appoint to the Senate for confirmation. Can I just say that like there is, no better example of America not giving a shit about anybody fucking else in the world is the fact that like our longstanding policy is the people that are supposed to be like the go-betweens between us and other countries just like oh yeah my buddy fucking Steve and my other buddy

know who like I fucking used to smoke weed with like that's crazy no no yeah that's exactly what happens so if you look at for most of the Obama administration the US ambassador to Japan was Caroline Kennedy, whose qualifications were being a Kennedy and writing a very early endorsement op-ed of Obama. And they were just like, you go just be ambassador to Japan for a while. Because they, I mean, clearly he asked her like, oh, where would you like to be ambassador? And she was like, ooh, I want to live in Tokyo. Oh, Barack, I'd love to be, I'd love to be an ambassador in Japan. Yeah. And then North Korea started shooting off missiles and it accidentally became a really

important position. And then she was just in there. And it was, it was a disaster. This is making me remember, like, a scene. This is back also during the Obama administration. This was like all the way back in 2014. I think it was a video went like viral when John McCain was asking, oh, it's right. It was the television soap opera producer Colleen Bell because she was up to be an ambassador to Hungary. And McCain's question was, what is our strategic, what is the United States strategic interests in Hungary? You know, sort of like basically, what's the nature of the relationship?

Yeah, exactly. was like what was this job involved and then she couldn't answer and I thought yeah I was another incident that kind of illustrated the ways these are sort of just sort of like you know these are favors handed out to like you know allies their favors handed out but at the same time sometimes there are advantages where there are certain people who've been a presidential appointees who have been like extremely effective or good at their jobs like the first ambassador I ever worked under was this guy rich Verma in India and his distinction was being John Kerry's one Indian friend. It was the Indian American guy. And the thing is, this guy, he was like, you know, John Kerry was like, oh, I'm Secretary of State now. Like, Rich, rich, how would you like to be ambassador to India? And like, you know, like he kind of, I guess he spoke Hindi to his grandma.

So, like, he spoke one of the languages. And like, he was like long time legislative assistant. He was a lawyer. He had been in the Air Force. But he was actually a super good ambassador. Like, he was a really cool guy to work for. And he was very effective with, like, changing that. that relationship because he, he kind of knew it. So there, there can be advantages to appointed

ambassadors when you have like, you can kind of do a wild card move. The other cool thing if you're a working diplomat is if the president appoints one of their rich friends who's a campaign donor to your embassy. And if that person's cool, your Fourth of July party is off the hook because they put their own money behind it. So it's not just like beer and wine only bar. Like they go nuts if you get a cool one. Right. So sometimes you can have really cool parties with. like brick pizza ovens and stuff if you get a cool appointed ambassador. What's the craziest thing unclassified that you saw the Fourth of July party? They're not cool.

I need to 100% say that Fourth of July parties are not cool at all. So it wasn't like somebody, you know, two guys like got into a fight and like stabbed each other. No, not, not even. You don't see anything. You don't see anything awesome at a Fourth of July. I'm skipping ahead a bit to talk about the current U.S. Ambassador to Turkey who's in the Epstein files. Oh, yeah, we'll get to that. We recently had a Fourth of July party six months late in Turkey where it was McDonald's mini sliders and Coca-Cola only, no beer wine, like a dry party.

It sucks. I mean, other countries have way cooler parties where like if you can get a swing an invite to the French National Day party as a diplomat, it rocks. The best one I've actually been to is the Thai Embassy National Day celebration in Calcutta, which is only like an hour flight away from Bangkok and they flew in like eight chefs and they had like an entire the food they had a papaya salad bar it was crazy oh my god yeah yeah yeah Thailand rocks because they do food diplomacy but that's that's the other things i want to scroll down a bit and let's look this is the um obama era ambassador to finland this was this holiday card i want to scroll down so everyone can see this one this is truly unbelievable i've been staring at this for a little while and i just can't get over it

he looks like if mr clean played the blues yeah and and he also has like tats all up his arms. He's wearing a t-shirt that looks like it was painted on him. And one of his tattoos is escaping his chest. Notice how the tattoo goes onto the shirt. Yeah. On to the shirt. So there's something AI for sure. Something terrible No, this is, no, this is from pre-AI.

This is from pre-A-I. This is from 2010. Photoshop. What's it going on? It's got to be Photoshop. Tattoo's going on to the shirt. Apparently over the shirt. Wait, wait, wait. Everybody stop podcasting. Hold on. Yeah, it's messed up. It looks like.

the symbiote from like venom is like crawling out of his yeah it does it's being in he's being enveloped so just to get you in on how uneven this is obam administration you know mr clean kind of like super hunked out this guy was a prick apparently to work for he was not well liked as ambassador to finland but this is you know this is how it works right so my closing point on this is like does the state department really do much you know at this point most foreign affairs are conducted out of the White House directly. The State Department in the United States system, like in the American system, does less than foreign ministries do in other countries over the past, really since like 1991

since the Cold War. But I will say like the less the State Department does is the not much that whatever the president wants us to do, right? So there's a huge amount of largesse in terms of like how they set things up. But the State Department historically hasn't been the most powerful foreign affairs agency in the United States. A lot of what diplomacy means for the United States is like observe and report where you're there to kind of maintain an ongoing presence, right? Because like the CIA isn't going to send in a bunch of special super duper ops guys to just like hang out in the middle of nowhere for years on ends.

That's our job. And the other thing is to administer ongoing programs. So if it's questions of war and peace, life or death, arm sales, you're talking directly to the Pentagon or the White House. It was a situation of like a 20-year-long educational exchange program to boost country-to-country ties. That's the State Department. So I want to start this by describing a baseline of like what's a bit normal before we talk about what's happening under Trump 2 to point towards this kind of sort of passive structure being mobilized for extremely pilled ends, right? So I want to go to part one. Really quick, before we dive into this, you guys kind of buried the lead on this Christmas card.

We didn't read the caption. No, we have to. It's true. So I still can't figure out what made him decide to have the tattoo, because if this is before AI, then he chose that. Yeah. But the caption is this. It goes, this year, I wanted to keep my holiday card simple. Nothing controversial. Just back to basics.

Blue jeans, a white t-shirt, and a big American smile. Happy holidays, Ambassador Bruce Oreck. Yeah, I love the idea. It's just so centered. around him. It's like there's nothing to do with what he does in any way. He's like, listen, I know you're tired of looking at photos of me. Beautiful, beautiful photos in it. So this year, I've got something special. So, but, but people in Finland were talking about the American ambassador. They knew his name. They knew about the guy. All publicity is good publicity. You know, this is also a time

where, you know, now the U.S. ambassador to Finland is very, like, focused on like security assistance vis-a-vis Russia, getting them into NATO and more integrated. There's all this policy stuff. But this is kind of an artifact of the Obama era where there was this idea that if America could just be more likable. If we could just be more friendly, then that's American diplomacy. Like remember when Obama like went to Cairo and did that speech that was just like, hey, Muslims, are we cool? Like he did this whole keynote address that was like, look, George Bush was a dick. I like you guys. Let's all be friends.

And then he was like, yeah, I'm not closing Gitmo. And that was fine. So there's this idea of like at a baseline, maybe a successful ambassador or a successful diplomat is someone who just gets people to like America and keeps administering the programs that have been running this whole time. But this whole thing just reads like, I got divorced and I am not dealing with it very well. Yeah. No. And if you have a net worth, if you have a net worth of $20 million and like Cheryl took the kids, you could just give it all to a candidate for president. If they won, you could wind up as an ambassador to Finland.

That's awesome. You could just go do that. And that's it. You know, if I had stayed in the State Department, I could have wound up as ambassador to some small country somewhere, right? Even if I had a pretty unimpressive career, like you would do that. But this is sort of like these are the stakes, right? There's this big institution that kind of counts on things rolling along as is. And then you can get appointed to it, I guess if you really, really want to.

And then you can do whatever you want. And this guy, you know, Bruce Oreck's idea of whatever he wants. as ambassador or as a political appointee to the State Department is to take cheesecake photos of himself and make sure everyone in Helsinki sees the photos. Right? All right. It's crazy because if Travis was made president, like, not only would he not give me a position like that, he would jail me.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, we'll get to there. But like, this type of person under Trump, too, is like a groiper who's saying stuff like triple parentheses they are getting women to want to fuck Muslim guys. Oh, that's a change of pace for Bruce. That's a big change of pace. Like, we, we laugh at Bruce now, but you will miss him when he's gone. I'm going to, yeah, I miss him and his tattoo necklace already. And, and his, and his American flag tribal sleeve tattoo. His American smile. I think it's hair may be coming, like, like chest hair gone wild, or it's a creative choice

in photo show. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I also think it's a point. Wait, wait, wait. I also think it's a to sidebar that this guy is gay, which I think changes the vibe. Whoa. Hey, man, you turned us into a homophobic podcast by withholding information. No, I think it changed.

If it's, I just think that if a guy, I think if there's a muscled, bald guy with tribal tats and it's a gay muscle bald guy with tribal tats, it reads a bit different. Now he looks fabulous. Like now it changes everything.

Like the pose, like everything. You fucking turncoat. I'm going to be stuck out here making fun of this guy alone just because he's gay and gay. But, but, but, but, but, but I think maybe it's a fun thing he's doing then with the tattoo. Like, look at, isn't this silly? Yeah. Oh, it's fun.

Like, coming out of my body and onto my shirt. Like, isn't that silly? And has defeated physics. That's okay, though, I guess. He can just, yeah, now I understand. He can just not make sense. He can just be uncanny valid. That's how he pulls off the no belt.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, I thought gay people could just do that. I thought physics didn't apply to them. Their tattoos can kind of escape and go over their shirts. But here's what's confused. using about that is the matrix sunglasses. Like everything else is like, I do see gay. But then you have these matrix sunglasses, which is like Jesse Ventura.

You know what I mean? It's like, all right. Well, your fears of being, you know, told what to do by this man aside, we need to get on with things. Joseph, please. Bruce, we complained at the time, but we miss you. Yeah. Okay.

So what does this mean when people start getting appointed to the State Department under Trump, too? If you can see the, I think I think I've illustrated the degree of personal freedom you get to do with these appointments is really what Trump to State Department is about under Marco Rubio, under Lil Marco, is it's about fixations where Marco Rubio comes in and he is obviously given Secretary of State as a bit of compensatory kind of gesture of, okay, you can go do foreign affairs. But he's actually wound up being one of the most assertive and activist secretaries of state in a long time. Like Rex Tillerson was not an aggressive secretary of state who asserted the State Department under Trump 1. Pompeo was a goofball by every measure who was not regarded as a guy who elevated the stature of the State Department under Trump 1. Pompeo was a former CIA head. And at state, we got kind of like whispers through the grapevine from the people I will term our creepy cousins as saying like, hey, get ready because this guy's a bit of a doozy.

So like Mike Pompeo during Trump 1, he just did this weird. newsletter called Miles with Mike. It was written kind of like a Christmas card from your uncle whose life is imploding. And he would just like send this on blast email to the entire State Department every week to tell you where he had gone and what he had done. And everyone was just like, dude, I don't, I don't give a shit that you went to Mauritania. Like, I don't care about the Cento like security summit in Kazakhstan. I don't like, I don't know your wife by first name.

We are not friends. And so there was this kind of like loser energy. but Marco Rubio's come in and he's like, there's a bunch of things I really care about and I am going to start using them to settle scores and further a Trumpist agenda. So I think immediately you can see the State Department start to assert itself domestically in the United States. We're like Mahmoud Khalil or like Rumaesah Ozturk when they were detained for their speech, they're completely innocuous and constitutional speech about Palestine. They were detained under State Department orders. So what Rubio discovered is there's all these, remember I said, there's all these authorities, there's all these offices that you can create. There's all these kind of latent things that the Secretary of State can do.

He's like, I'm going to use them to start settling scores according to things I care about. And so, for example, there's this big push right now about America will never be a communist country, anti-communism, the use of terrorism designations abroad to try to get them to apply to people domestic. you know, where they're trying to say that like the DSA is funded by the Cuban government, which is kind of funny because like the Cuban government is maybe the one organization that has less money than DSA. And you have this kind of idea that this can be because the presidency can play around with the structure of the State Department a lot, a place not just for foreign affairs, but for kind of activist policy. And so you start seeing basically the personal kind of like bug bears or the personal grudges of the people appointed to the state. State Department enacted as policy. Marco Rubio from a Miami-Cuban family, super-duper hates communism is acting like the Soviet Union didn't collapse in 1991 and we need to like round up and detain foreign supported communists in the United States all over the place, right? You have a push,

which we're going to talk about in more granular detail later, of like trying to aggressively punish the European Union for having political hate speech laws is as become a surprisingly very large plank in American foreign policy. You are. also have things like the State Department kind of hinting at or how would I say this kind of like jousting at the prospect of foreign interference in the 2024 elections. You know, statements and reports about how like Venezuela tried to interfere in the 2024 elections to make Trump lose as kind of a revenge for Russia gate. And you also have at a more kind of not just from Marco Rubio or Trump world, but like embassy and state bureau accounts doing like kind of London has fallen

kind of stuff. You know, talking about how Europe's a shithole because of mass migration, talking about how there's migrant invasions, how Europe's trash and terrible. This is part of Trump's foreign policy of being more like anti-Europe or moving to a more transactional relationship than traditional Atlanticism. But it's also just like stuff brain poisoned right-wing staffers see on the internet about how like if you go to London, you will be stabbed by Bangladesh's. But there's also like this stuff loops around and starts to have serious policy repercussions where like, for example, there's this whole conspiracy theory that I know you've talked about on the show before about the idea of white genocide in South Africa, which we're going to talk about how that's actually deeply transformed American refugee policy as managed by the State Department. But right at the top, they kicked the South African ambassador out of the country over this. That they, it was called persona non grata or PNG, which is basically, you know, the condition of diplomatic immunity.

right, which I had for a brief, glorious several years. It's kind of cool. Diplomatic community. No one can arrest you. You're kind of like above and beyond the laws of the country. That's so cool. It whips. I've never had anything that cool bestowed upon me.

There's a whole sidebar about like how it didn't really matter because the only time I had it, I was in a NATO country. That's just a whole other thing. Where the caveat to that is the right of persona non grotto, which means that they give you 24 hours to get out of the country. Well, when the White House declared that there was white genocide happening and stuff, Africa, the ambassador to South Africa was like, look, like, white people are a minority. They're actually a protected minority in South Africa.

We are not genociding our minorities. It's offensive that you say that. They gave them 24 hours to get out of the country, right? Which means, like, at a certain level, when you are working diplomat, if, like, my fear with that was always like, yeah, but I, like, I got a bunch of, like, onions in the fridge. Like, I got, my lettuce is going to wilt. Like, all my stuff is there. My dog's there.

You know, what are you going to do? I'm afraid of getting, like, 30 days notice, like 24 hours notice? Who can get anywhere? done in 24 hours, other than maybe leveling up your guy a little bit. Exactly. And so you have this kind of sicko energy under Trump, too, where you start having targeted deportations. You start having Rubio kind of under what's called 212F authority, which is a part of the

law that lets the Secretary of State deport and specific named individual, start deporting people that Laura Lumer tells them to deport. Laura Lumer has a weirdly, not weirdly, a very large role in the State Department currently to the point where she has actually gone through and like named specific foreign service officers that she says are like traitors or she actually accused an Iranian American foreign service officer who worked on Iran issues of being an Iranian spy, which is a very serious accusation to be levied at a diplomat. And I think that they, I actually don't know what happened to them. That would fucking suck if you actually were a spy. And like Laura Lumer just being Laura Lumer was like, he's a fucking spy. And you're like, you don't fucking bitch.

You know what though? If I was an Iranian d. cover operative and Laura Lumer was fingering me as a spy, be like, I think I could ride this one out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I could be, I think I can beat these accusations. Yeah, yeah, that might be actually a position of like, oh, few, that that's a relief. Okay, now nobody will think I'm a spy. So you start seeing this increasingly personalist thing. And this is, you know, what the secretary is doing, what the secretary's friend, Zionist jigsaw, Laura Lumer is doing. But you also start seeing them start to staff up and bring in their own people who are total freaks. Right. So I,

was a consular officer. The abbreviation for that bureau is CA, consular affairs. And the woman they brought into head-up CA is named, well, she's not quite there anymore, but her name at the beginning of the Trump administration, her name still now, is Moran Namdar. And she was a 38-year-old attorney. And she was a contributor to Project 2025. And she also owned the Bam Beauty Bar chain across Texas with several salons of the Houston area. And she was also sort of a like part-time attorney of like Iranian-American origin. to be pretty blunt, the amount of Hitler particles I'm getting out of like Houston area Iranian American attorney who also owns several beauty bar chains is like quite high. And she was contributing to Project 2025 and she was brought in to arrange visa policy. Right.

And, you know, like the muzzle ban 2.0 that affects like 90 countries. That's her. Like that's, you know, that's part of it. Her confirmation process in the hearing was just like we are going to deny, revoke and reject visas. You know, we want to use the Bureau of Counselor Affairs. to restrict immigration is pretty much what she openly said. And she was, you know, kicking around in the consular affairs world until she kind of got phased out.

She's moved on, I think, to other things at this point by more. Here's the scary part. More long service professionalized bureaucrats who agree with her policies, which is a little more dangerous than your super pilled beauty bar owner, part time Project 2025 contributor is the person brought in to replace her who's like, hey, I can work with this, right? The other thing going on with like the Trump appointees is they like the State Department is used of a bit of a parking lot for real lunatics for the Trump two administration. But they all love being in government. So if you just go through the Twitter of any State Department Bureau or embassy or office, they're all constantly congratulating each other on their birthdays.

They're all tweeting and posting at each other and hyping each other up and posting like hype reels for themselves because they at this point and we're talking really about early 2025 when they start coming in. They are pumped to be in power, right? And they're coming back and there's a point where like there's a job for everyone. Everyone has a place to land as we start naming names and going through these, these biographies in this episode. We're going to see that there's a lot of like pretty minor figures who have found a home in the state department. Why? Because the president can get you a job there by appointment because it's prestigious and because you might get to travel a lot. That's pretty cool, right?

What kind of salary are you getting as a state department ambassador? It's civil service scale. An ambassador is getting medium six figures and a free place to live. So like it's not millions. I mean, it's all GS scale or you can be like special appointment. Is it over $150,000 a year? At the highest levels. It's not great.

The benefits are really good. I mean, the pension rules. But a job, yeah, that you can just get pointed at, travel a lot and it's six figures. Like very few people life that would be unattractive to. Right, right, right. And just like imagine the, imagine the blood in the water on leftist Twitter if it was like, you know, President AOC and suddenly everyone who had a Chapo premium subscription before 2018 gets to be ambassador somewhere. Like everyone would be rushing for it, right? Oh my, yes.

Mm-hmm. The rewards. Finally, we were waiting and it just didn't happen. We were waiting for it. We were waiting. Like guys with rose emojis and denim jackets and facial hair would be murdering each other over the chance to go be ambassador to Zimbabwe. And this is the same thing happening on the right. Like, hey, we're in.

This is it. Like much more so than the first time, everyone gets a piece. Everyone gets a piece of the pie this time. And sometimes that can be in foreign affairs. So what does this look like? Who are some of these other people? As an indicative ambassador, I want to talk about the current U.S. ambassador to Belgium.

His name is Bill White. He is repeatedly being summoned to the Belgian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Being summoned as an ambassador is kind of like being called to the principal's office. Right? Like it's when the other countries foreign affairs ministry says like we need to talk. It's like getting the we need to talk text from your girlfriend, right? When you're the ambassador. And the ministry of foreign affairs is like, please come and talk to us because he keeps posting AI slot videos insulting specific Belgian officials and interfering in domestic Belgian political affairs. So here's the thing. When you're an appointed ambassador, getting a European position is traditionally what you do if you are like a car dealer baron who donates a lot to the president. I'll make you ambassador to Belgium. It's not that important. No one's really going to care. It's nice. You get to live in a nice Western country. And you get to collect a salary and hang out and be important, right?

Newt Gingrich's wife, right? Who's the ambassador to the van again. I'm sure you've all seen her like face tuned to death. Oh, yeah. Photos. She's having an awesome time. You know, you get to live in Rome, but you're not ambassador to Italy. The workloads light.

You get to take vacations. It's wonderful. But no, this new generation of Trumpist and appointed ambassadors, they are interested in doing culture war. and actually in pushing the most pilled and radical positions possible from their positions of comfort. So at a point where, you know, under Biden, right, the U.S. ambassador, Belgium's a bit interesting because it's called Tri-Mission Brussels, where the U.S. embassy there is actually three embassies and one, where it is simultaneously the U.S. embassy to Belgium, to the European Union and to NATO. So he's just running the Belgian part of it, right? All the Ukraine military aid goes to the EU and NATO, mostly NATO. And so this is kind of like the least important part of Tri-Mission, Brussels, but it's also like a pretty important position.

He is posting art with like the domestic affairs, like the minister for health or something in Belgium because he raised alcohol taxes, calling him a loser. But also just to put a bit of a menacing edge to this, he has started personally interfering in academic politics at the University of Ghent. Okay. Where the U.S. ambassador to Belgium made a big point of meeting with Nathan Koffness at Ghent University. He is a, quote, race realist, unquote, scholar who had a very key role in hounding Jason Ardei over plagiarism accusations, if you remember. And this is the guy who kind of made the story a big deal on social media about plagiarism allegations against Jason Arde and was responsible for starting this media feeding. frenzy, which eventually ended in Jason Ardeh's suicide. Also funny because Kauffness himself has a bunch of plagiarism accusations and he keeps portraying himself as a professor when he's really just a postdoc.

But when this came up, when his race realism scholarship started kind of leaking into the public when why is this guy preoccupying himself instead of like teaching classes or doing research about haplow groups at the University of Ghent? Why is he trying to hound black academics out of academia? The U.S. ambassador, you know, Ambassador White just shows up, like, thumbs up with him in a photo. And he's like, he should not be persecuted by the University of Ghent. And so suddenly appointed U.S. ambassadors aren't just having a fun time doing picnics and cutting ribbons at Fourth of July ceremonies. They are personally intervening on behalf of, like, white nationalist academics in European countries, or intervening to fight the culture war in wherever they are on Trumpist terms. And it's a very clear

signal, I think, to the University of Ghent that, like, the United States cares about this. And this is an environment where, I think, especially with regards to talking about Europe, they're paying a bit more attention because on the more kind of serious or cultivated Trumpist side, the United States is actually going to war with the European Union diplomatically right now, where there is a ongoing diplomatic spat between the United States and the European Union that's not over Ukraine. over Greenland, but it is overpilled culture war issues. And to talk about that, we need to talk about Sarah B. Rogers, who I think is a pretty exemplary figure of the Trumpist State Department. So she's the Undersecretary of Public Diplomacy. That is basically the head of the Bureau that

oversees all public outreach, messaging for, you know, populations, not governments, educational, cultural exchange. She's the head of all of it. This is a major bureau head under the State department's org chart. This is like being head of European affairs or something. And she's a lawyer by trade, although she did intern for the state department right out of college. So there is a state department connection, even though she doesn't really have a diplomatic background. But let's check out her CV from her state department official website bio. So as an attorney, she spearheaded and supported challenges to social media censorship and the weaponization of law enforcement, including in connection with the successful appeal of the wrongful conviction of Douglas Mackey, aka Ricky Vaughn. I know that's

a QAA deep cut on that one. So this is Ricky Vaughn's lawyer, and she also fought the online censorship of Charlie Kirk, RIP. And she's an expert on high-stays advocacy inside and outside courtrooms and has represented clients, including the National Rifle Association, major tobacco manufacturers, and investors and executives in the artificial intelligence industry. All the good people. You're right. She's a pilled lawyer who is out there.

So her main qualification that she boasts about is like she's a advocate for right-wing posters rights. Yes, this is the head of all public affairs diplomacy for the United States right now. She's an advocate for posters rights. Let's check out her public communication style. This is a tweet from a while ago. It's from back in January of this year. And she's QTing a poster called National Socialists of TikTok, and they say Jews let the Browns in.

Okay. Straightforward. This is actually, no, this is actually about to get pretty interesting because here's what she starts saying. Germany infamously retains very few Jews, yet important. Barbarian Rapist Hordes, parentheses. As an American, I'm allowed to call them that, parentheses. Under Merkel, even today, Germany suppresses political opposition who point this out. You guys will say this because of, quote, Jewish, unquote, NGO tentacles or whine that Hitler,

parentheses, who destroyed his country, parentheses, is treated you harshly by history. You will say this because you're dumb trash, who prefer to promote conspiracy theories rather than ascribe Germans or anyone else agency over their country's future. So she's actually coming down on the, I guess, I don't know for the global right if this is more moderate or not, but on the great right-wing fight of our times, which is do we hate Jews or Muslims more? And she's coming down on we hate Muslims more. But there's something very interesting. This tweet caused a scandal because she said that Germany was importing barbarian rapist hordes. This is a 16 tweet thread. I'm not going to read all of it. But very interestingly, she goes on this whole thing

repeatedly making the point that she has the right to say that. Why? Because her whole thing, her kind of fixation is a battle over European hate speech laws, where she is actually on immigration, one of the more moderate members of the Trump administration, where she is just going on about, I have the right to call Muslim immigrants rapist words, but she's more interested in using that right and flouting European free speech laws using her diplomatic status. So she's also flown to Europe and made similarly provocative statements in direct contravention of free speech laws and the United States is actually sanctioning former EU officials who pointed out those policies. This is a big fight over online censorship in Europe. And I've linked this article from Deutsche

Vela that's about basically EU tech policy and the EU disinformation kind of platforms and working groups that they've created to clamp down on online radicalism. So this is someone who is like trying to fight in a way that is very informed by actually online European right-wing circles to say that the European Union can't do speech censorship for hate speech. And this is actually very interesting for me because this is a weirdly niche issue. I know you've talked about this a little bit on the show, but this is more the U.S. State Department, if you think about someone like this, and this is not everyone we're going to be talking about in this episode,

is more interested in using her position to run interference for the domestic European right wing. And they've been very clear in supporting Orban, in supporting like J.D. Vance has done this. The State Department to an extent has done this. And also in supporting AFD in Germany, where they see their role as American diplomats in Europe in supporting their compatriots in the European far right. I mean, yeah, this sounds like a lot of her, I guess, like messaging strategy is really indistinguishable from like just actively trolling, just finding things that they, that she knows is going to be provocative and we'll get a reaction. and say the most inflammatory thing that she can think of because she can or because she know that she's going to get a reaction. And what's the result on that? She's not even, she's not, for example, in the Bureau of Consular Affairs. She's not a hitter on immigration.

She's fighting for posters rights. So there's this other tweet of hers a couple pages down here that I've highlighted where she's highlighting a post by the main Department of State account saying, you know, progressives, including advocates of unlimited third world immigration, have long controlled a disproportionate share of official knowledge production, including my government agent. That's changing, Arrow, and post this thread about how basically, so every embassy has to create and circulate what's called an annual human rights support by the country. Considering the U.S. track record on human rights, I think you could probably surmise that these reports don't really change the world, right? Where it's the report on human rights in, I don't know, Tanzania, human rights in Paraguay, human rights in Japan, wherever.

There's this big report. And there's a lot of work that goes into these reports for summarizing the human rights situation, which is then presented to Congress. What she has basically done here is saying we're amending that that report that the State Department produces every year is going to have a section about the threats of mass migration. Now, is that symbolic? The whole damn process is symbolic, right? But she's trying to troll people by saying this is a problem and we are going to be reporting on it. So yeah, she is an online troll and she's obsessed with posters rights.

I did want to spend some time on this episode kind of talking about sickos and like pilled freak. because that's fun to do, and I think it's, you know, part of this administration. But I kind of want to start wrapping this up by talking, like, less about stuff like this, which is kind of stunting. Even if it's sanctioning European officials, it's, it's stunting. And start talking more about structural transformations in terms of, it's very easy to appoint some lunatic. It's like the opposite day version of the guy in a muscle shirt to come in and say a bunch of provocative stuff to make Europeans mad.

It's something else to change things. Now, some of those appointees can be pretty bad. do you remember that video that the DeSantis campaign had where they were like marching soldiers marching into a giant spinning sun and rod and like DeSantis right where like there was that DeSantis video with all these like Nazi spinning Nazi symbols in it yeah yep the staffer who made that video is Rubio's speech writer now in the state department oh great yeah so that's probably fine right well I mean it's like yeah there's no controversy really is like lasting it's like there all the strategy for all this bullshit is like it's like okay okay Okay, there's a big controversy, a lot of noise, and they'll wait for it to pass and then bring them right back in. And then they just come back, right? But what if there was a way to make these things lasting? And that's what I want to talk about is maybe the most important part of what I want to say here. Because there's sickos and there's sickos that change things.

Who here has heard of Pat Kennedy? Uh, not I. No, no. Not knowing, right? Because he was the guy who basically behind the scenes ran the entire Department of State for like 15 years in the early 2000s. He was the longstanding head of kind of the internal HR department, right? And he was one of these bureaucratic puppet masters who makes agencies run in D.C. There's one of these, several of these people in every federal agency. But it's figures like this,

these kind of unknown bureaucratic wizards, that Trump is, I wouldn't say that Trump or Project 2025 is trying to replace them because they aren't finding people of this caliber. But how many of have heard of Lou Alowski. Nope. This is a guy and he looks like a villain from a 90s movie who would walk around State Department headquarters in a MAGA hat chugging cans of monster energy and just yelling at people because even though he joined the Foreign Service in 2021, in 2025, he was made the head of Pert Gttm, which is State Department personnel, basically.

So he was put in this bureaucratic position by Project 2024. as a kind of one-man doge for American diplomacy. And he engineered this thing called The RIF, which was the reduction in force, where basically what they did was they abolished every DEI-related office in the entire department, whether that was HR complaints review, whether that was minority rights or DEI covering other countries, whether that was whatever it is, it's abolished. And instead of just getting like if an office gets... It's abolish. Usually you kick back into the pool of officers and you're reassigned. No, you are

fired. You're out in the department. Basically, it was a game of musical chairs where a significant chunk of the U.S. State Department was just out of a job and involuntarily separated. So this guy, even though he had only done one overseas assignment, even though he was technically still in his probationary period as a new hire, he with the background working for conservative and nationalist legal circles, you know, he worked for Immigration Reform Law Institute, and he was general counsel for the daily caller and he was placed as the head of everyone inside of personnel for the State Department. And basically what he did was he not just got a bunch of people fired. He put a bunch of people in and put a bunch of people in in positions that are much less glamorous than or much less

noticeable than like ambassadors to prominent European countries or like the head of public affairs. So while the head of State Department public affairs is doing stuff like intention. trolling European hate speech laws, right? A former big tobacco lawyer. This guy, he's in there and he's a killer. Everyone hated him. I mean, for obvious reasons. Can you imagine working 30 years in public service, getting shells in Afghanistan,

you know, fighting dysentery to defend, I don't know, like a malaria program in Malawi or whatever. And then this dude in his like, lanyard with bangles and energy drink is the guy who ends it all for you, right? That's pretty rough. But the thing is, is he basically went in there as a bureaucratic kamikaze to just reshape the organization and then leave. After a short assignment doing everything he was instructed to do, he lost his second follow-up. He didn't get the dream job, second follow-up job that he had wanted for him and his wife, who are both personal friends of Stephen Miller.

And apparently, like, I want to believe because I've never gotten eyes on confirmation for this. but there was a incident at his going away party where some people say that he threw a cake and then was escorted out of the building by security. I choose to believe this happened. I choose to believe that the white monster of the State Department or how some people were calling him the big Olauski. This is how he left. I'd like to know who he threw the cake at. Who or where and like where it ended up.

I have wanted, if you were having a birthday party at the. Harry S. Truman building in Maine State. It's already pretty grim, but that's especially gnarly. It's interesting to see, though, where he landed, because I think this is an interesting kind of vector for the MAGA crew, is that he is actually his little spot where he came to rest is what's called the Office of Foreign Missions in the Department of State. Now, this is another deeply unglomerous position, but it is the part of the State Department that regulates the facilities of foreign missions in Washington,

DC. Why do we care? What does that mean? Yeah. It is the most bribeable job in the State Department. If the embassy of Qatar wants a barbecue annex, right? If the ambassador from Belarus wants to add an addition to their official residence, if they want building codes, permissions, extra parking lots, even parking permits, that's the person they talk to. And this has always been a place where you kind of put your most boring and incorruptible people because there are constantly diplomats from like kleptocracies trying to bribe this person so that they can have a nicer setup in Washington, D.C. So I have no clue what he's doing right now. I think he's taking bribes and enjoying them.

I didn't say that. But, you know, you're talking about the Qataris giving Trump an airplane. What are they doing for like, you know, me and my boys want a third pool for our secret other girlfriends who aren't Instagram models, right? So that's it. So this is this is kind of my intro into the idea of structures or changing things where this is a guy who is, yeah, a freak. He is a weirdo. He is, you know, four years on the job and restructuring the department permanently. But this is kind of a deeper goal in terms of when we talk about getting pilled. What do we mean? And is that settling basically internet based grievances with, you know, the European Union or tweeting happy birthday photos or like, you know, hiring a beauty salon owning attorney baddie from Houston to, you know, ban other people with her family background from the United States. Not really. It's this stuff that we're going to be getting into because, you know, there's a surface level reading of how deeply pills the current crop of Trump administration

diplomatic officials are. Like their head of protocol is an Obama's birth certificate truther. Also the head of public diplomacy, Sir Rogers, she's also like a soft anti-vaxxer. But I want to talk about what they're getting up to in terms of changing things permanently. So as of October, 26, There have been 10,258 refugees admitted to the United States, right? The U.S. refugee admission program is a interagency program to bring refugees to the United States that is in part administered by the State Department. Now, of these 10,000-odd refugees that came in this year, all of them but three were white South Africans. Because the U.S. operates now a white Afrikaner-only refugee program. Incredible.

Yeah. On the premise that there is a ongoing white genocide itself. Africa. This is why the South African ambassador was expelled from the country. Yeah. For reference, in 2023, the U.S. admitted over 60,000 refugees. So admissions are like a sixth of what they used to be, and they're entirely guys named like Pitas von De Vica, who are convinced that they're going to get murdered. And I have actually tried to do a lot of forensic work finding out about how this conspiracy got into actual policy circles in the State Department. And I kind of haven't found a satisfactory answer. I think it might have been Don Jr. I actually don't think it's

Elon because his family isn't even Afrikaner. Elon's family, I mean, he is South African, but his family are actually Canadians who moved to South Africa in the 1950s because it was racist. So it's not even like he's descended from like Dutch colonists who've been there forever. But there's this idea that specifically the like Dutch descended white South Africans, not even the English descended ones, but the Dutch descended ones are being genocided. This is referenced in policy. It's used to structure like diplomatic spats with the South African government.

and the entire U.S. refugee program, which is a pretty significant program, has been reshaped on its account. So going forward, this is the only type of refugee who is going to be admitted into the United States. They've had one year of it and they're going to keep going in this way. So this is where they start deeply changing things about how things work, right? It's not just, for example, that the Muslim ban is back as Muslim ban 2.0. It's now encompassing so many countries that people don't even really think about it as a Muslim ban anymore. You know, there's a 20 country ban, there's a 50 country ban, there's all these different layers that are operating to permanently change the U.S. immigration system to let in less people and to let in less non-white people. This isn't like a conspiracy theory.

It is an actual set of policy objectives that are being actualized and embedded into bureaucratic norms by a diffuse network of people who all believe the same thing, even if they're. not really saying it outright. And my question is, who's doing this? Well, and it's really dangerous, too, because they're also now creating and generating data that they can, you know, sort of dole out during election season and say, and say, look, look at how many white refugees that had had to escape, you know, and basically provide the groundwork for, you know, essentially saying that, you know, that there is a political need for our military to protect, you know, these assets. Because look at, look at this data. Look and look at their, they're under persecution. That's an amazing point in terms of bureaucratic reality, where once you start enacting the program, the program justifies itself.

Why do we need to let in more white South Africans? Because we already let in 10,000, right? I can just point to what we've already done. That's an amazing point about like getting the inertia going of not just that, you know, remember, Muslim ban won. There were huge protests. People went out to airports. You know, people, people went to the streets. It was this huge shock. Second time around when that gets enacted, you know, by at the time, the head of consular affairs, it was an Iranian American herself. Uh, who cares? You know, no one even really noticed. Yeah, people didn't even hear about it. I don't even really like remember hearing any kind of stink over it. No, I tried to raise a stink and it was kind of like, eh, in the background. And I think if we start looking at

these kind of more quiet, bureaucratic ways, not the shocking, prominent. inflammatory ways that Trump appointees can be egomaniacs, but the kind of quiet air bureaucratic ways people like, you know, Olauski can go around and change org charts and disestablish offices and reestablish offices and fire people and hire people. This is a bit more of a chilling way of looking at what getting institutionally pilled means. Because the other thing is, like, I don't think everyone in the Trump administration really has their hearts bleeding for like white South Africans. Rubio doesn't really talk. about it that much, right? Rubio thinks that Fidel Castro is still alive and his like funding Zoran

Mamdani and wants to arrest him on that basis. That's not his issue. I don't even think Stephen Miller really knows or cares that much, but I think that when Stephen Miller's friends are like, hey, have you heard this thing about white genocide? Probably the light goes off in his head and is like, you know what, this is a great way to restrict refugee admissions. Or even better to troll the lives. Let's make refugees only for white people. Nothing worse than enacting policy based on like what four of like your worst idiot friends like say while you're, you know, drinking. I mean, they're probably on Coke, but like, yeah, no, I mean, that is the policy and they're

enacting the policy and they're enacting it to stay because when we're talking about how are all these people, how are these office, how are these little things tweaking? If you notice the picture I shared of Lou Alowski here, he's posing in front of a background with a picture of Ben Franklin on it. And that means we got to talk about the Ben Franklin Fellowship. Now, what's a fellowship as it regards to the State Department? It's part of the recruiting process, right? I actually joined the State Department under a fellowship that was called National Security Scholars, where basically I had taken so many government scholarships to learn so many foreign languages that they gave me a bit of a fast track into the department. There are

several of those that used to exist in the State Department. There's two fellowships called the Pickering and the Wrange. And these are both fellowships that were created by active Congress at various points to bring more diversity into the State Department. Now, why does that matter? First of all, the State Department really needed it. The phrase that I was taught when I joined was, you know, the way things used to work was pale, male, and Yale, right? It was basically a bunch of Patrick Bateman, kind of like weird Ivy League guys where there was kind of something wrong with you so they didn't want you hanging around Cape Cod with everyone. So we need to send you to Mauritania to organize like a mass killing of communists in the 50s because you know you're unsettling like

get out of here it was all like weird Princeton guys it was a very bougie very East Coast very things like that to this day I think I might have gotten affirmative action points in the selection process because I'm from Oregon right of like oh just it's it's a guy who's not from Maine right let's get he's not from Connecticut let's get him in here so these were basically programs to run to bring people for more diverse programs into the State Department. Like, for example, like Howard University is a big feeder into this. I mean, that's not, that's like, you know, African American elite people who are really of the caliber that they would want in the Foreign Service are being brought in through these

fellowships. You can imagine how the more Trumpist elements feel about those fellowships, right? Would it be psychotic resentment? Yes, it is. So they decided in 2024, in response to Biden era diversity, equity and inclusion initiative, that they wanted to create affirmative action for Chuds in the State Department. And they created this thing called the Ben Franklin Fellowship, which is it was founded by a group of retired and active duty foreign service officers with the notion that the State Department,

and specifically the Foreign Service had become woke, and that DEI had led to a decline in meritocracy and an imposition of liberal left orthodoxy among career employees. No one really knows where the Ben Franklin Fellowship gets its money from, but good money says it probably gets funding from the Heritage Foundation. But once Trump was inaugurated the second time, the Ben Franklin Fellowship is now basically the only employee organization permitted to function within the State Department. Wait, this is fucking crazy to me because to me this is essentially like an institution created because remember how angry they were about that one like CIA commercial or whatever where the girl have like purple hair or whatever. I'm a bisexual with anxiety disorder. I love the CIA.

Yeah, yeah. Like that, it's crazy to see, like, how many little tushies, like, move into action because they're, like, so afraid of something like that. Like, all these things that kind of seem like passing popular culture, sort of, like, knee-jerk reactions, it's like, that is their policy. It's just, like, fucking, oh, my God, like, I'm very unsettled by all of this. No, no, you know, when, like, someone, you switch channels over to BET and you realize there's, there's like a black people version of the Verizon commercial.

Sure. Right. Like they did that for the state department and they're like, you could be a black area studies major who gets to become a diplomat. And they're like, I need to develop a peristate network to seize control of government institutions. Right. Like there's this level of like they tweak out over essentially social resentments over

why do I have to look at a picture of Kamala Harris when I walk into the embassy every day. And notwithstanding the fact that like, you know, her policies were not particularly left wing or whatever. They were like, must become Hitler now. And they did it with like an actual organization. And I really need to underline this that even though like you see all these people who are basically well connected right wing movement lawyers who get presidentially appointed into these positions, right? I'm a lawyer for Charlie Kirk. I'm a lawyer for the daily caller. They're all brain poisoned in the way that like

rich right wing activists get brain poisoned. They have very TPSA concerns. These bureaucrats in the state department, I cannot emphasize enough the degree to which resentment about DEI existing as an idea is driving all of this, where there's a button that got pushed in these white guys. And like, you learn to have a sense of humor about yourself as a white guy in the State Department. I mean, like, I, you know, I don't know. When I was back in D.C., I was like renting a shared house with some other people in Georgetown. But then I started mentioning, oh, I work for the State Department.

I live in Georgetown. And people looked at me like I was like Kennedy, right? Like, it is a bit, it's all a bit ridiculous. And you'd be like, okay, we got to be a little bit more PC. about it. And like, to be blunt, I think a lot of the DEI initiatives in the State Department were a good idea just because if you're a diplomat, you're going to be serving all over the world. You're going to be working with all different types of people. Like, I think it should matter in your career progression of like checking in to see if you're racist. Because like, that's going to come up in that kind of job. Right. Like, you know, you can't just be like, I hate Sri Lankans in a position where you could, you know, work anywhere. That's not going to fly. Yeah. All it does is to ask you to consider your. own racism when like looking for an opportunity for somebody else? Well, a little more than that, under the Biden administration, they actually made it one of the employee review criteria. Now, I think it had a lot of the faults of DEI as a corporate kind of movement anywhere where, you know,

I was when that got rolled out, I was working in India at the time and I was just like looking around being like, hey, are we going to ask about cast discrimination at all in these things? And I was kind of told like, shut up. You know, it was a limited, flawed kind of effort, but it was in your employee review as an American diplomat for a couple of years there under Biden that there was a D-E-I-A

area where you would be assessed on how you advocated or accommodated those sorts of things. Whether that was intercultural communication, whether that was advocating for other people, whatever, it was there. And that tweaked out these people so much that they got a bunch of Heritage Foundation money, retreated, and started plotting

how to take over the State Department and make it racist. They hate that people are like, look, try to be nice. Like for the future of the human race, like, let's try to like get along and just be outwardly nice to one another. Inside, and you can feel however you want. But they're all like the mayor from, from Ghostbusters. They're like, no, it's my fucking God-given right to hate them because of whatever

fucking reason I want. No, that's entirely it. And they get to work in this agency with an unprecedented level of spite and retribution. So, for example, in January 2020, they moved forward with an official sanction. They, so there's all these employee affinity groups inside the State Department. There's like Asian Americans and Foreign Service. There's glyphah, gay and lesbians and foreign affairs, right?

There's all these different kind of affinity groups that you could be part of. You know, there's like a Jewish one. There's a Christian one. There's all these different things where you can meet and have brown bag lunches and seminars and stuff. All of them were abolished. Is there like a gamer? Was there like a gamer one at all? Unfortunately, I got some bad news about the role of the Ben Franklin Foundation.

It's just. They didn't have like lands. set up anywhere in like a room? The Ben Franklin Foundation is kind of the de facto gamer caucus in the State Department except they're only playing parts of iron games and you can guess as which country. Well, I mean, I could tell because their little Ben Franklin logo in the background looks suspiciously created. It's a little bit morphy if you know what I mean. Yeah, it's bad news. So they come in and they start not just like creating a vibe or acting like a street gang, but they actually start changing how people get hired into the state.

department where, okay, so all the other employee organizations are disbanded. It's the only one allowed to function. They've got this like 20-something guy running around yelling at people and shouting Maga in the cafeteria and bullying everyone. But what they also do is everyone, so when you become a US diplomat, you pass the foreign service exam, then you kind of have to wait around until there's a job opening. And what they did is they changed the content of the foreign service exam and made everyone with a pending candidacy retake the exam under the new criteria. And the new criteria is explicitly anti-woke America first. They're changing the training programs, and they're also bringing in Ben Franklin Foundation

aligned minders from Maine State to oversee diplomatic training to make sure it's ideologically correct. Minders. Yeah, they've got commissars. Unbelievable. You know how long it's been since we've had to worry about minders? Most people listening to this probably have never even heard that term before. there are these like political appointees who are coming in and they're just watching on diplomatic

training but if you are in diplomatic training it's almost impossible to fail out of diplomatic training like it's really hard like once you're in you're in except what they are doing is if you answer these america first questions incorrectly during the induction process they are just firing you like you've already moved to washington DC you've already packed up your family you've already done everything you're already there but like you're out because you didn't pass satisfactorily being like America first. Remember there's a DEI category in your employer review, which was, sure, it was a little bullshitty. But what they've done is they've replaced that category in the employer reviews in the State Department with a category called fidelity, defined as fidelity to the president's vision.

Jesus Christ. Well, and what left-leaning person is going to be like, oh, I'm going to go in there and like swear my allegiance to Hitler because I like really need a job right now? Like, the only people that are going to start signing up for this are people that are like that are true believers jake more than you think yeah come on man oh no oh really what if liberals worked under fascism that'd be so weird jakey well i i don't know i wasn't you know that wasn't the point that i was trying to make i was just oh no oh it's worse than i thought yeah so what's behind this so they're establishing their control and what's the operative instruction what's the secret kind of behind the scenes marching orders And this is really being driven by Stephen Miller.

You know, a lot of the people in Ben Franklin Fellowship know him personally. And they are pretty clear. Their goal, as they put it, is 100 million deportations, where they are not just ratcheting and restricting immigration. Remember at the beginning of this episode how I said the State Department was like the Foreign Affairs Ministry but also did some weird other stuff. The other stuff the State Department controls is passport issuance and the determination of U.S. citizenship. So immediately what they've done is they've given instructions to the various passport. agencies. Passport agencies are the most DMV job in the State Department. It's not Foreign Service track. It's civil servant. They're all over the country and they issue U.S. passports.

But they've instructed people there to if someone seems transgender, you will go back through their passport records to find if they switch gender. And if they have, you will change the gender in their passport to be their one at birth, irrespective of what their gender has been for like the past 20 years or whatever. Jesus Christ. It's just so vindictive and pathetic. It's so vindictive. It's vindictive. Even, for example, if you come from a country that has, say, Spain that has like a relatively good transgender rights and your gender is, say, you're a trans man and your gender is male in your passport, the U.S. visa you are issued. If they know you're trans, they will go back in the records, find your original one issued to you under female and misgender you on your U.S. visa, which then creates a mismatch between your issued visa and your passport, which is a complication of border control, just to fuck with you for being transgender. And humiliate you.

And humiliate you, right? The other thing they're doing is they're pushing the idea of revoking citizenship, which you can do in rare circumstances where someone obtains their citizenship through primarily fraud. That has happened a couple times, but the U.S. doesn't do it much. So the Ben Franklin Fellowship is about getting in there and finding every little tenderly bureaucratic power that they have and using it to be as chutted as possible. in the service of this idea of 100 million deportations. Now, I want to talk about that a little bit because 100 million people out of a country of 300 million is, first of all, that's pole pot numbers.

That's a crazy. That would be the largest forced migration in human history by far. The other thing is, that's every non-white person in America and then also a bunch of white people. Like, that's a crazy goal, but I think it reflects a libidinal desire for them to reach unattainable levels of bigotry. Lou Olauski, these BFF guys, they don't really have like goals that they'd like to see achieved. They're just driven by resentment and they're in there.

And so I kind of in the, I guess, denouement or kind of what I've been building to, I want to talk about the specific organization called the Office of Remigration. Because I think this is a great synecatechi. It's a great little kind of like capsule story of where the State Department is headed under Trump 2 and the Ben Franklin Foundation. So the idea of remigration is a white nationalist talking point. Just like the idea of the Great Replacement is a white nationalist conspiracy theory that although the head of public affairs was dunking on, she's still willing to entertain, right? The idea that Jews let the Browns in, right, that there is a conspiracy to replace white people with migrants from the third world. The idea of remigration as a solution is something that's touted on social media, including people closer to this, but they have actually established.

an office of remigration. But this is kind of where the rubber makes the road, where the crazy posting online meets real structural change. Because what does it mean to create this office? Because an office is not a bureau, right? An office has a pretty small defined role. The role of this office, what they call remigration, is much less dramatic than the name. And there's a great article by Wired that I've linked to here, which goes into how the

State Department kind of doesn't want to talk about this office. The office is under the Bureau of PRM, which is called Population and Refugees and Migration, which is historically the refugee management part of the State Department, right? They're the ones who do the State Department part of the refugee program, which is now white only. And this office, although it has a dramatic name, their job is to manage payments to countries that accept third country deportations. What does that mean. I've linked another piece here from Reason Magazine about the story of an Afghan woman who's been in immigration limbo in the United States for years. She got a family-based special immigrant visa, which is the type of visa for Afghans who helped the United States or worked for the United States while

the U.S. was there. She's been held in ICE detention for years, but she was finally deported and not to Afghanistan because it's not legal to deport someone back to a country where they face threat. Instead, she was deported to the city of Bangui in the Central African Republic. She does not speak any language there. She has no connections there. And she is now stuck there because the Trump administration is swinging deals with if there are deportable people in the United States, people whose immigration hearings have wound up negatively or people facing criminal charges. They will deport them not to the country that they're from, but the country that will accept them. So you have situations where Guatemalans are winding up in Eswetini, where,

Pakistanis are winding up at Honduras or El Salvador or where Afghans are winding up in the Central African Republic. Why? Because they are being paid by the United States to accept people just to deport them out of America. And the Office of Remigration's job is to manage cash payments to those governments. So even though it's got a le-based epic white nationalist name that is meant as a dog whistle, the job it's actually doing is much less shocking, but in a more boring way, part of an actual enacted white nationalist vision to deport as many non-white people as possible, just in a dull way. Yeah. And as my last feel-bad moment, I went on the State Department website and I just kind of had to make the point here that as far as I can tell, there's no presidential appointments in the leadership of the Office of Remigration. They are all career diplomats who were already serving when Trump came to office.

So the Ben Franklin Fellowship, the lunatic appointments, they're there, but the bureaucracy is accommodating these shifts. So, yeah, the old guard, the, you know, the deep state, you know, they got with the program pretty fast, it looks like. Well, yeah, because USAID got abolished. And all those people tried to clock in for work one morning in D.C. With your coffee and bagel, right, getting out of the metro and foggy bottom, and your card wouldn't work. You got to go back to your kids. You got to go back to your mortgage payment. they were out of a job.

1,500 foreign service officers were out of a job. So unless you're at the point where you're close to 20 years in as the civil servant where you can put in your papers and retire or even retire early if your pension's vested, then what are you going to do? You're going to go along with it because, you know, there's not a lot of other options, right? Like, hey, you take it from me. Once you've been a diplomat, it's kind of a weird skill set to translate into other fields of expertise. Right.

And they all know that. So it's the, yeah, it's the Star Wars Stormtroopers. It's like, man, I don't like the emperor's policy of choking out people at whim, but, you know, I got a mortgage. So what are you going to do? What are you going to do? Hey, I'm going to the office of remigration, but just for a couple years until I can swing that assignment in like Vietnam. You know, someplace nice, right? And so these reshapings, these sort of org chart changes are happening on a real different level. And there's just, if we can maybe cap it off, there's a link I have, it's a link for. the recruitment that they've put out on their recruitment ads because they're trying to to find people to join the foreign service, which is, you know, by the way, something I wanted to do since I was like a teenager. It doesn't, it's not a job that needs advertising, but this is the video that they are, they're putting out to recruit you to be a foreign service officer. As foreign service officers, you are sample Americans. And many people abroad. will think better or worse of the United States because of what you are and what you do. Be the face of America wherever it needs you.

Wherever it needs you. How many women were in that video? How many non-white people were in that video? I mean, most of that footage looked like it was taken from like 1961. Exactly. Where we're trying to get back to right after. World War II when communism was crushed. Pre-civil rights.

Exactly. No, that's exactly it. Like, they are attempting to trigger the libs, or if you've served in the State Department, you absolutely understand the vision that they're articulating with that video. I kind of want to close this out by talking about these new criteria for the Foreign Service exam, of fidelity, being managed by the Ben Franklin Fellowship, the training cycles that have minders. That's about an 18 to 36 month training cycle. So we actually haven't seen the first crop of fully Ben Franklin Fellowship

pilled American diplomats yet. But in the next six months, they're going to start entering the system. And they are all going to have full 20-year careers rising to managerial positions, even if Trump gets kicked to the curb or arrested. And for a vision of what's to come, I also want to share, just leaving it with this, there's a Twitter account I found that's clearly someone in the State Department with an X.com slash based State Department with some of the things that they're sharing and the attitudes that they have.

You are the president. War is yours. Not UN, some coalition, do not share powers. You know, I think this is really funny. It seems that they're promoting the idea that, well, you know, the foreign policies dictate primarily by the president. Everything flows through him. But they're playing clips from the Vice, the Adam McKay movie, in which I feel like one of the main thesis of it is that the present is not the present. There are secret power structures behind him, in this case, Dick Cheney in the movie, they're actually manipulating a foreign policy.

And notice most of the hype video is about the military. It's not about the State Department because you can't make a hype video about a bunch of weenies and suits getting lunch, right? Like, it's not possible, but it's all of vicarious vision. I think a lot of this is bluntly to trigger other people who are their coworkers in the State Department. Like, this person is getting a bit of a boner at their weird U.S. government issued cubicle, knowing how all their Lib Kamala voting coworkers in the State Department would be triggered if they knew that this Twitter account was theirs. I mean, look, there was an Adam Woffin logo. on the bomb that was dropped in that video,

but I think that's just like, it's just warmed over nachos. Yeah, you can tell this as a white person because the video is very Playboy Cardi coded. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But he also doesn't, he doesn't have the balls

to just play the Kanye song, right? Like, it's very, like, he still wants to get his, his 10 and you get one free card at Coce Bowl in Foggy Bottom, right? And so where we're at now is, yeah, there are a bunch of lunatics. There's a bunch of kind of outward concerned conspiracy theories, but where I really want to raise the alarm is

the idea of structurally pilling parts of the U.S. government, especially around immigration policy, to even once someone else is back in charge, still be kind of operating from a premise that the Great Replacement is the baseline assumption of

what's happening. Yeah, no, it's really truly spreading in the water. Yeah, pretty horrified. And, you know, the stuff about the Franklin Foundation or the Franklin Fellowship, like, reminds me, like, a little bit of the, um, the Federalist Society. They sort of a conservative legal organization that was set up in the 80s to counter what they thought, whereas, like, sort of progressive influences in sort of the, uh, the American legal world. They wound up being massively powerful, essentially being, uh, the people who determines who the Supreme Court justices are during Republican administrations. Yeah. And this is, I guess, kind of the, like, to an extent they're pilled and conspiratorial and very online, but they also are jousting at that same level of lasting influence.

And I think it's, you know, I'm noticed with like QAA as a show as time has gone on, you're dealing more with like the sublimation of Q into everything. This is like, what if they got their act together and started like influencing foreign affairs? I think this is really something to think about. Or at least just to bring attention to the attention of your audience that this group exists. Yeah, really worried because, like, you know, I feel like there are two faces of like, you know, the right-wing movement in America. There's like, yeah, obviously they seem like sometimes goofy and, you know, infighting a lot. But sometimes they have plans for decades, right? They think about like, you know, if like they don't like that Nixon was like run out, they plan like a like Fox News Media Empire decades in advance or like.

like the federal society. And this, this concerns me because it seems like it might be something else, where it's like, well, even if we somehow move past the Trump administration, this is just a structure that will, you know, continuing have influence in American policy. Yeah. And, you know, Lou Alowski was running around in a MAGA hat with like 36 ounce energy drink cans whipping cakes across the Harry S. Truman building in D.C. But that just means that whoever comes after him, who's also from the Ben Franklin Fellows

who is less of a lunatic is going to look more reasonable. Yeah. So it's not great. No, it's not great. It's not great at all. Thanks, though, for looking into all this and explaining it. It's fascinating. I mean, yeah, incredible insight.

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Obviously, we'll put some links in the show description as well. Yeah, I tweet at Pinstrype Bungle. I've got some essays and stuff forthcoming about foreign policy and general diplomatic accountability related stuff. And it's great to be back on QAA. Thanks for coming on. For everything else, we've got a website, QAApodcast.com. Listener, until next week, may the Office of the Deep Dish bless you,

and keep you. We have auto-keyed content based on your preferences. Despite a near-total ban on refugees from across the world, the Trump administration has repeatedly made exception for Afrikaners. That is a white minority group in South Africa. We actually obtained a U.S. State Department memo that reveals that the administration is planning to welcome an additional 17,500 white Afrikaners from South Africa. That's in addition to 12,000 Afrikaners.

who were brought to the U.S. last year, and the effort, as he underscored, Gail, will not be cheap. It is projected to cause U.S. taxpayers $500 million. And we have to underscore, too, that the president has been talking about this issue for quite some time. As you know, Nora, he has said that Afrikaners are facing, quote, genocide,

has claimed that white farmers in South Africa are being systematically persecuted and killed. But we also have to note that the South African government, and also independent researchers have said that those claims of genocide, of systematic and wide-freat persecution are false and not based in reality. And also a 60-minute investigation this year

actually featured the voices of some Afrikaners who themselves said that they are not facing a genocide and that violent crime is an issue that affects all communities in South Africa. I remember that 60-minute's piece very well. And so how do they explain the cause and that it may cause U.S. taxpayers. What do they say about that?

How do they justify that? It's a critical question, Gail. The rationale in this memo is that Alfred Connors will fully assimilate into the U.S.