QAA Podcast - Kendrick + Drake = Bake (E279)
Episode Date: May 22, 2024This week, Jake and Liv break down the rap beef that took the world by storm this past month. And of course, because it’s 2024 and the universe has decided to spare none of the QAA hosts, the lyric...s contained within the multiple diss tracks became the source of endless amounts of conspiracy theories and baking - with one particular poster claiming to be a “secret insider” set to expose the crimes of the elite. Sound familiar? Of course it does! We will never be free of this, and our souls cry out into the void. For those who haven’t been following, Jake will catch everyone up to speed on why the beef began in the first place, as well as the accusations contained in each rapper’s lyrics. Then we will descend into hell where Liv will unpack the countless theories circulating in online forums, and the culmination of these theories resulting in real world violence. Subscribe for $5 a month to get an extra episode of QAA every week + access to ongoing series like Manclan, Trickle Down, Perverts and The Spectral Voyager: www.patreon.com/QAA Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe & Jake Rockatansky. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (instagram.com/theyylivve / sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (pedrocorrea.com) www.qaapodcast.com QAA was formerly known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.
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Welcome to the QAA podcast, episode 279.
Kendrick plus Drake equals bake.
Nobody's going to challenge me on that title?
No, no, no.
This is your show, I guess.
As always, we are your host, Jake Rockatansky.
Lou Baker, Julian Field, and Travis View.
Well, well, well.
Jake and live on Maine. Somebody's going to get fired for this one. I don't care if your name is
Travis or Julian. No one's safe. Oh, you like your information to contain facts? Oh, you think
only some conspiracies are real? Too bad. I'm going to need all my Q&O believers to gather
around Travis and argue with him politely from six feet away. And Brad can't even be mad at him.
He's somewhere deep in Mount Shasta learning how to bend light. And Annie? Stop
and my mom's favorite host or I'm sending a cease and desist tonight. And what can be said about
Corey that hasn't already been said about Patrick Stewart? He's nice. Very professional. Thank
you, Corey. We love you. What the fuck is happening? What is going on? What? What? What the hell?
It's 20v you won. Yeah, it's just a little, yeah, it's a sample of my own disc track to you guys.
What did we do? I'm not a pedophile. That's right, folks. Today, we
We are going to be breaking down last week's beloved distraction from the horrors of our current hellscape,
the Drake and Kendrick Lamar Beef.
You know, throughout the years, one of the most interesting parts of doing this podcast is seeing QAnon-style behavior pop up in unlikely places.
Whether it involves a secret jetpack believed to be embedded into GTA5 by the developers,
or deciphering Taylor Swift lyrics to determine her sexuality,
we've learned time and time again that no subject is immune to baking.
In this episode, I'm going to take a little time catching everyone up to speed.
Who are the key players? How did this whole thing start?
And what are the accusations contained within the lyrics themselves?
Once you've been properly briefed,
Liv is going to dive into all of the conspiracies swirling around the internet
and how QAnon believers are using the display to dispense red pills.
Let's get into it.
Tensions have been rising between Kendrick and Drake for well over a decade now.
And up until the last couple of years, the beef has been fairly one-sided,
with Kendrick Lamar laying in perceived disses towards Drake on verses like Big Sean's control
and at the 2013 BET Hip Hop Awards Cipher.
Now, I'm saying this as a big Kendrick fan and a medium to large Drake hater.
But it is true that at least on wax, Kendrick was the first to take shots at Mr. Graham.
I like that in the script, it was small, and Jake has, like, upgraded his hatred of Drake.
I could tell no lies.
Jake hates Drake slightly more between the time that he.
he wrote this in between the time that we're recording it.
I didn't want to downplay it.
You're like actually on course to assassinating him.
No, that's not true.
It's possible.
Did they find who did that shooting near his mansion?
No, not that I know of yet.
And at least as far as finishing the writing for this episode last night,
there was no update on the security guard that got shot.
But that's starting at the end.
So we will go all the way back to the beginning.
The two artists initially collaborated quite a bit, with Drake taking Asap Rocky and Kendrick Lamar on tour to open for him in his 2012 Club Paradise tour.
Drake is also featured on Poetic Justice, which was a massive hit on Kendrick's Good Kid Mad City.
When Drake began fielding questions from interviewers about the perceived jabs, Drake initially blew them off as a little friendly competition.
He did not jab back, which is smart, right?
I mean, because in my humble opinion, I'm curious to get your guys' takes on this, you know, I think that Kendrick is just a far more technically skilled rapper and an overall deeper lyricist.
And that's not to say that Drake's music doesn't deserve a place in the hip-hop and R&B genre, but if we're talking pure lyricism, phrasing, and technical ability, Kendrick is just a flat-out superior MC.
And so, you know, a wise move not to trade blows with him.
Yeah, I mean, it really isn't close. Drake's really main thing is like pop, especially now.
That's where his main audience base is.
That's like, you know, he's known for doing hits.
Yeah.
Kendrick is great.
I mean, Dan was an amazing album.
I went back and then listened to Good Kid Mad City.
But I have to say, yeah, I mean, he's great.
He got me back into listening to a full hip-hop album with that one.
Yeah.
And I think, I mean, Liv, you make a really good point.
I think one of the, you know, the sort of thing that happened here with this whole beef is that, you know, Drake, I think, confused success with
skill, that, you know, because he has the most plays, because he makes the most money, because
he has the most endorsements, because he plays the most shows and the most places, that he's
the best. And that's just not the case. You can be the most successful or the wealthiest,
but, you know, it comes down to skill, you know, pure skill. If we're looking at hip hop, you know,
as if, you know, we were in the 90s, you know, when that sort of thing seemed to matter a little
bit more. Yeah, I mean, nozzlematic. It did, it did kind of like feel a bit like a cool
throwback and a combination with some of the modern trends. So I enjoyed that. And just to help Travis
participate as well. So, okay, Travis, so Kendrick is like pinback and Drake is like cake.
Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, I understand that. As a guy who grew up in Southern California in the 90s,
this makes perfect sense to me. Yeah, which neither me nor Julian nor lived it. So actually
Travis has, can claim the most authenticity in terms of his hip-hop analysis.
This brings us to the most recent, very public conflict between the two rappers.
The current beef between Canadian rapper Aubrey Graham, aka Drake, and Compton, California's
Kendrick Lamar, officially kicked off on Halloween of last year when Drake dropped his
eighth studio album titled For All the Dogs.
Okay, so on this Drake album, there's a song titled First Person Shooter, which features
Fayetteville, North Carolina rapper J. Cole, aka J. Cole.
In the song, Jay Cole references himself,
Kendrick Lamar and Drake as the top three,
implying that within the current generation of rappers,
these three are the best.
That's just, you're fucking dead wrong, buddy.
Yeah, as a Rippity Rap expert,
Kendrick is just much better than both of those.
Yeah, and I like Jay, I like Jay Cole.
I think Jay Cole is a good MC.
He's fine, but he's not top three.
No, no, no.
I'd put 21 Savage above Drake, to be honest,
which is crazy.
I know, I don't know if you guys are Savage fans,
crazy at all. I think a lot of heads would agree with it. If you're reading this, Drake, maybe,
it was a conversation that he's like top something. But not, not 2024, Drake. No, I don't believe it.
A lot of those guys, like, I really liked them when they first came out, Drake included,
I really liked his first two singles. I remember when, I remember listening to them with my brother.
And we were really, really impressed with him. Same with Jay Cole. But, you know, I felt like,
as their careers went on, they didn't really grow in the way that Kendrick did. You know, if you
listen to Kendrick's early stuff, and then even just to these latest disc tracks, I mean,
he is just constantly evolving and in a way that feels authentic, you know, whereas Drake's
evolution kind of went from this, you know, pop star to, you know, this guy who's really gangster
and talking about, you know, putting hits out on people and all this stuff. It just, it didn't
feel right. We can cut all that, Corey. Now, leave it in. I want someone else to humiliate themselves
on this four white people talk about hip-hop episode. Yeah, I know, right?
So about six months after that track was released, Kendrick featured on a track with Atlanta-born artist Future and St. Louis producer Metro Boomin, titled Like That.
In his verse, he appears to have taken offense at the claim that J. Cole and Drake are in the same league as him.
Aw, yeah, yeah, get up with me. Fuck sneak-distance. First-person shooter. I hope they came with three switches.
I crash out like, fuck rap. This me mellie mel if I had two. Got two T's with me. I'm snatching chains and burning tattoos. It's up.
Lost too many soldiers, not the player safe. If he walk around with that.
It ain't Andre 3K
Think I won't drop the location
I still got PTSD
Mother fuck the Big 3
Nica, it's just Big Me
Oof, yeah
And that's like a massive hit
Yeah
So it's just fuck the Big 3
It's just Big Me
And then it's like you know
Hundreds of millions of listens
Yeah
So I think because this was a direct
Callout instead of your more
typical subtle jabs that MCs make
Towards one another
The internet began to foam at the mouth
A battle was brewing
A couple weeks later after like
that released, Jay Cole released his fourth mixtape titled Might Delete Later. In it contained a track
titled Seven Minute Drill that was a direct disc track aimed squarely at Kendrick Lamar. In the song,
Jay Cole asserts that Kendrick has, quote, fallen off like The Simpsons. Uh, the problem with this
is like, you listed yourself in the top three with this guy, and so it's very hard to come back
after he's like, actually, no, you're not even in the same league as me. And the Simpsons have
fallen off, right, Travis? We agree about this? Sure. Sure. I
I mean, I've actually, you know, I was recently watching some season five episodes.
I mean, but yeah, obviously, you can't match the brilliance of the mid-90s Simpsons.
After the album was released, Cole apologized publicly to Kendrick Lamar at his concert two days later on April 7th of this year.
During the public apology, Cole spoke about how he was proud of the album with the exception of the disc track
and vowed to either update it or delete the song entirely.
Oh my God, this guy is, this guy just can't stop losing.
This is embarrassing
In my spirit of trying to like
Get this music out
I ain't gonna lie to y'all
I moved in a way that was
That I feel spiritually feel bad on me
Like I try to like jab my nigga back
And I try to keep it friendly
But at the end of the day
When I listen to it
And when it comes out and I see the talk
That shit don't sit right with my spirit
That shit makes me feel
That shit disrupts my fucking peace
So what I want to say right here tonight
Is in the midst of me doing that
and in that shit
trying to find a little angle
and downplay this
this nigger's fucking
catalog and his greatness
I want to say right now tonight
how many people think
Kendrick Lamar is one of the greatest
motherfuckers
to ever touch a fucking microphone
honestly respect
my understanding with that as well
is that I guess there was a rumor
or I'm not sure if it was confirmed
whether School Bar Q
or someone in Kendrick's camp
went to Colin was like
this isn't rap
like Kendrick fucking hates Drake
like this is real
this is serious
Like, you're hitting back because it's, like, spirit of hip-hop beef, but, like, you don't want to be involved in this.
Oh, whoa.
And so he backed out.
Schoolboy Q's record is actually really good, the one that he just put out.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, you know, at the time everybody made fun of Jay Cole, you know, for doing this and accused him of being weak, for backing off from the diss.
But seeing as how Kendrick would go on to pummel Drake with track after track in the coming weeks, the decision turned out to be a very smart one for Jay Cole.
I think.
Yeah, and that's kind of the consensus in the cultures.
Initially, people were like, this is lame.
But later, it was like Jake Cole's somewhere out there,
frolicing in a field, living happily, not involved in this,
not being accused of serious things.
He got his peace back.
Exactly.
A couple weeks later, the feud officially began with Drake releasing push-ups on April 19th.
While the diss is primarily aimed at Kendrick Lamar,
Drake also insults other artists with a line telling producer Metro Boomin to, quote,
shut your ho ass up and make some fucking drums,
which I thought was pretty funny.
Most of the insults are divided between Drake's claims
that Kendrick's music is boring
and that he is short,
with a line or two about Kendrick
having to split his percentages
with a greedy record label.
In the song, Drake also makes fun of rapper Rick Ross
for being close to 50 years old,
which I thought was funny too.
And he's not, he's like 48.
You know, he's not that much older than I am.
I think that's close to 50, I think.
Well under 50.
Well under 50.
He's got two more birthdays, okay?
Embarrassingly defensive over there.
That same day, Drake released another disc track aimed at Kendrick, this time using the
AI voices of Tupac and Snoop Dog.
Wow.
You didn't have to shit your pants like this, but you did.
I know.
This one's embarrassing.
The track is titled Taylor Made Freestyle and attacks Kendrick for doing a verse on a Taylor Swift
song.
I believe the song was Bad Blood.
In a perfect world, two.
Tupac would announce that he faked his death and release a 23-minute Drake Dis.
But anyways, here is a snippet of that AI track.
Kidger, we need you, the West Coast savior.
Ain't great of your name and some hip-hop history.
And to deal with this viciously, you seem a little nervous about all the publicity.
For this Canadian light skin, Doc, we need to know the baby West Coast victory, man.
Call him a bitch for me.
Talk about him liking young girls.
That's a kid for me.
He heard it on the button podcast.
It's got to be true.
They told me the spirit of my cabelly is alive.
And the nigga under five foot five.
So it's got to be you.
Wait, is he now showing off about liking young girls?
Okay, so I guess the idea that Drake is going for here is he's writing Tupac as if he's on
Kendrick's team coaching him on how to come back at Drake.
I've seen it online compared to the scene in 8 Mile where this is like how white people
relate to him.
Well, I guess it's kind of like the eight-mile scene where Eminem provides his opponent
with all of the potential comebacks in order to take the power out of them.
Just hearing Tupac say saw it on the Budden podcast.
That shouldn't be allowed.
It's blasphemous.
This just made me feel all sorts of kind of icky inside.
It was not good.
This is the equivalent of that guy who went up to the gas pump and stuck the pump in his
ass and then started jacking off.
And he's like, I'm winning.
Also, Snoop posted a really funny video of him being like woken up at like two in the morning with his phone blowing up, people being like, you're not going to believe what this guy did.
You AI, a guy who's alive.
What the fuck?
I mean, it's bad enough to do it to the dead.
I mean, there's no winning.
You're doing an AI track.
Like, you fucked up so bad.
He's so out of touch.
Drake unfortunately had to remove the track from the internet after a lawyer representing Tupac's estate threatened to sue him for.
using AI to create the late rapper's voice.
No shit.
Yep.
On April 30th, 11 days after push-ups released,
Kendrick Lamar dropped his response to Drake's disc in a song titled Euphoria.
And this is really when the baking began, even down to the song's title.
Twitter users were quick to point out that the title could be a jab at Drake's involvement
in the HBO show of the same name and how that show over-sexualizes teenagers.
My favorite bake here, I didn't include it later, is that people, some people I saw were saying
it's a theory that Drake had sex with Hunter Schaefer
because Kendrick says
like you don't have sex with real women
the girls here are to confuse themselves for real women
which is not a trans thing
but people thought it was a trans thing
yeah uh oh yeah I mean
there's been a lot of commentary
about the misogyny
sort of contained in both
you know in both of the lyric
that's a discussion that's really not
for me to have um
this rap is crap you know there's been a lot of
analysis about about this
situation. And once again, I do think that, one, it's been brewing for a long time, but two, the news has just been so horrible lately that I feel like everybody is desperate for some kind of, you know, some kind of distraction. Now, I've got to say that Kendrick's music is already primed for baking. You know, being the skilled MC that he is, a lot of his lyrics contain double meetings and metaphors, you know, created with the specific purpose of having many layers for listeners to decode. However, in Euphoria, Kendrick is probably as direct as he's
ever going to be now let me say i'm the biggest hater i hate the way that you walk the way that you talk
i hate the way that you dress i hate the way that you sneak this if i catch flight it's gonna be
direct we hate the bitches you fuck cause they confuse themselves with real women then notice i said
we it's not just me i'm what the coach of feeling it's great he does have that damn energy it's just
so energy is insane that's what i loved about damn is that it was the aggressive album that i thought
potentially Yeezus was going to be
and I found the lyricism
on Yeezus really let me down because I was like
after 808's and heartbreak Kanye
had made his amazing sad album
and then I was like oh my god he's going to make an angry
album he's going to make it with fucking acid
and like house shit
and it was just like so much so many of
the lyrics just don't match
the production on that album
but man damn really filled that space
for me I loved it just how fucking
furious he is and this this track
delivers as well a lot of good
hating inspiration really really an inspiration to haters everywhere yeah get your game up you do not
hate like this i've never heard someone uh sing and sound like they're not having fun at all like
they're just they're genuinely boiling in the studio yeah it's the same it's like uh i i guess i got
to do these murders you know like i'm going to work no and about like this is what the
culture's feeling is good too because it's like yeah you're outside you're like pop like hip-hop
culture isn't with you. They don't like you. You've kind of like not transcended, but like moved
beyond it and no one from this culture likes you. It's a very powerful message. He really should
have just, he should have just not, he should have just stayed quiet from day one. The AI thing
is such a misstep. It's so stupid. Because he shot first, like the first disc track was his. That's
really a mistake. Because like the other stuff is oblique. I mean, the, you know, it's just big
me. I mean, he's just, he's responding to Jay Cole. Jay Cole apologizes. You can just let it go.
We're like just put a line in a hit or something. Were you shooting back?
Yeah, just, oh man. The song, I mean, you heard 15 seconds of it. The song is absolutely brutal.
But despite the title, Kendrick focuses mostly on Drake's transition from an actor slash pop star
to presenting as a hardened mafia boss capable of calling in hits and threatening his enemies with
violence. And, you know, at the end of the song, um, Kendrick tells Drake that he's
not allowed to say the N-word anymore. So he revokes his pass. No comment. Yeah, no comment on
that. No. But that is what's in the song. Barely giving Beef Watchers, time to breathe. Kendrick
dropped 616 in L.A. a couple days later. Before you ask, yes, the numbers were baked. Okay, so here's
all of the 616 hidden meanings I've gotten from Kendrick Lamar's new song, 616 in L.A.
Nicole Brown Simpson's funeral was 616-1994.
616-194 was also the day O.J. Simpson had charges filed against him, hence the M.M. Gloves.
Kendrick is claiming he's murdering Drake.
Father's Day this year is 616. I'm not kidding.
Tupac's birthday is 616.
Drake just bought a Tupac ring for $1 million, and Kendrick said he'd be willing to
double the wage in Euphoria to get that ring away from Drake, as Tupac is his favorite artist.
Drake also used that Tupac AI in Taylor Made.
This level of planning is psychotic.
Nothing can stop what is coming.
Yeah, and, you know, I don't know if all of our audience knows what baking means,
but it's essentially a term that came up on the Chan image boards for taking cue drops
and trying to decrypt their meaning, oftentimes through publicly available news stories and information.
So this track 616 in L.A. actually samples the Al Green song,
What a Wonderful Thing Love is, on which one of Drake's uncles is,
credited as playing guitar on the track.
So even the sample credits are bakeable.
The song is intended to be a psychological operation against Aubrey
where Kendrick claims to have moles embedded in Drake's crew
that they are actively plotting against him.
And he also like back-to-backed him
because Drake, in a beef, I guess, 10 years ago
in like 2014 against Week Mill,
released two disc tracks back-to-back.
And the second one was called back-to-back.
And he won that, he destroyed him.
And so Kendrick is doing that to him.
He's not giving him room to breathe.
Wow. He backed him. Thank you, Liv.
Things were starting to heat up.
The feud was becoming incredibly ugly and personal.
Drake responded by releasing Family Matters on the same day as 616 in L.A.,
and in it he accuses Kendrick of domestic violence,
and that one of his children is actually the result of Kendrick's friend Dave Free,
sleeping with Kendrick's wife.
cheese we could have left the kids
out of this don't blame me
you a dog and you know it you just play sweet
your baby mama catchers always
screaming save me you did it dirty
all your life you're trying to make peace
I heard that one of them little kids
might be day free
That is
He's up man his flow
sucks dude like this man
sucks at fucking rapping
And I think this is good for Drake
Like these these distracks that he put
out is the best lyrics I've heard from him recently, in my own personal opinion.
So he really rose to the challenge and still, I think, you know, got demolished.
I think Drake's problem was the song was just too long. He was trying to do a Kendrick
with Euphoria or it's like six minutes and three different beats.
Mm-hmm. Just doesn't have the energy. It doesn't have the energy. He can't switch his style
up or his intonation like Kendrick can without it sounding kind of phony. Because, you know,
one thing that Kendrick does attack Drake on a number of times,
is how he puts on different accents depending on who he's with or, you know, where he is.
I think it's worth mentioning also that to date there are no official reports
indicating that Kendrick has faced legal consequences related to domestic violence.
Less than an hour later, Kendrick dropped Meet the Grams,
where he accuses Drake of being a sex trafficker and hiding another child.
And this song is just insane.
I mean, it is a love letter, essentially, to all of the members of Drake's family.
including his children and, you know, the alleged secret child, which there's no proof of.
But he, yeah, he makes pleas to his mother and his father.
And, I mean, it is just absolutely brutal.
And it's slow and it's underplayed.
And it's, all right, here's a clip.
Your son's a sick man with sick thoughts.
I think niggas like him should die.
Hit my wine stain, she'd get fucked up in the cell for the rest they laugh.
He hates black women, hypersexualize him with kinks of a nympho fetish,
grew facial hair because he understood being the beer just fit him.
better. He got sex offenders on a hovio
that he'd keep on a monthly allowance.
A child should never be compromising. He keeping his
child around them. And we gotta raise our
daughters knowing as predators like him lurking.
Fuck a rap battle, he should die so all of these
women can live with a purpose. I've been in this
industry 12 years. I'm gonna tell y'all one little
secret. It's some weird shit going on
and some of these artists be here to police it.
They be streamlining victims all the Saturday home
and calling them Tinder. Then leaked video
sell themselves to further push their agendas.
Oh boy.
You see why it was good for cold and maybe
back out of the soul. Yes. Yes. Cole a hero, a hero in my eyes for knowing, knowing that it's not, that being the best or taking jabs at the best or fighting for clout isn't worth it, isn't worth the damage. That's somebody who appreciates their life and appreciates their peace, like he said. I think it was probably, like if it was just kind of rap beef and Kendrick didn't think that Drake should die because he's like a pedophile, then I'm sure.
I'm sure that he would have, like, just continued, and it just would have been, you know, like, it's, it's like hip-pop beef that's a part of the culture.
But, no, this is clearly, it's clearly beyond that.
This is not part for the chorus.
It's like every moment you continue breathing, the world becomes an uglier place.
Yeah.
One thing that's also important is the, you are hiding another child thing.
It's kind of a reference to Drake's beef with push a tea a couple years ago, where Push did reveal that he had a secret kid.
And then that one, it was immediately clear that it was true.
I haven't seen anything like Drake immediately denied.
That was the only thing Drake denied after this
was specifically that he didn't,
he wasn't hiding another child.
So that one doesn't seem to be,
that one seems like a potentially
the most dubious claim.
I think a lot of people just to kind of abandon it.
Yeah.
The track was called Story of a D-Don, right?
Yeah, Adion, yeah.
Wow.
You know, in an effort to fact check some of this
because I feel like that's part of our job,
I looked into the claim that Drake has members of his
OVO team who are sex offenders. And I did find something, unfortunately. It turns out that one of
Drake's longtime crew, a Canadian rapper who goes by the name Baca Not Nice, was arrested in 2014 on
charges of forcing a 22-year-old woman into prostitution and taking money from her. The rapper pled
guilty in 2015 and was sentenced to six months in jail, but was immediately released having already
served 10 months awaiting trial. Charges related to human trafficking were dropped as the victim refused to
testify in the case so yeah and he becomes a rapper as far as I'm aware after this because he's
initially a security guard for OVR so no no no human trafficking convictions just to be clear
although that's still yeah this one seems like the they scared the witness yeah the witness was
yeah I mean testify that's that's what I read in the reporting that was covering this trial was
they stated that the witness did not want to testify and so those charges were dropped
but human trafficking you say
Weinstein you say
it was more than enough for the bakers
to turn their ovens to 500 degrees
an old video of Drake at a concert
began to surface on social media
in which he kisses a young fan on the lips
after she told the singer she was 17 years old
not only you
why do you look like that
big look at all this
Well, I don't know if I should feel guilty or not, but I had fun.
I like the way your breast feel against my chest.
And he kisses her at the end.
Oh, he kisses her on the mouth, and he does say,
I like the way your breasts feel against my chest.
Not good.
And he doesn't just kiss her on the lips.
He kisses her hand, and then he grabs her, he caresses her chin,
and kisses her on each cheek.
then the forehead, and then on the lips.
That's tough.
Not great.
Not good at all.
Other social media users recalled a 2017 controversy when then 14-year-old Millie Bobby Brown,
the lead of Stranger Things, revealed to the media that she and Drake, who was in his early 30s at the time, had become close friends and texted each other frequently.
When asked about the content of their conversations, Millie Bobby Brown told reporters that Drake was very helpful at giving her advice about boys.
The very next evening
After releasing Meet the Grams
Kendrick dropped the track
Not Like Us
So he back to back
To back him twice
Yes
And if listeners felt like
The underage allegations
On the previous track
Were too vague
This time Kendrick
Spells it out for them
Say Drake
I hear you like him young
You better not have a go to sell
Black 1
To any bitch that talk to him
And they in love
Just make sure you hide your little sister from them
They tell me chubs
The only one that get your hammy downs
And partying at the party
playing with his nose now
and Baca got a weird case
Why I see around
Certified lover boy
Certified pedophiles
Wap, Wap, Wap
That fuck him up
Wap Wop Wap
I'm gonna do my stuff
Why are you trolling like a bitch
Ain't you tired
Trying to strike a chord
And it's probably A minor
Ha ha
Holy shit
That line is so good
Trying to strike a chord
And it's probably a minor
Well and there's so many
like double entendres to that I was watching this podcast they were analyzing it and
one of the hosts pointed out you know a minor is the only minor scale that does not have any
black keys in it wow and very honestly around this time I started seeing videos of like
people you know and even even even during euphoria like people were banging these tracks
at like massive house parties people were banging them to do like spinning classes too
it was just fucking it must be hard because you're probably fucking hearing this
shit played around you if you're going through the world as Drake.
Yeah, that's the most listens to on a Spotify record, like, in the first week ever,
beating out a Drake song that previously had the record.
It's also, like, it was very, it's very fun to, like, see people's first reaction to the song,
like, with Julian and Travis now.
And that is, like, a big cultural thing, I think, is people reacting to the song.
Like, people make your compilations of, like, just, yeah, their reaction to all the,
obviously very heinous accusations.
Kendrick is making over this, like, over this, like, club record.
Yeah, it's a DJ mustard beat, which is insane.
Not like us debuted at number one on the Billboard charts
and received over 70 million streams its first couple days out, a massive hit.
People were generating millions of views merely videotaping themselves reacting to the song, as Liv mentioned.
And in the midst of all this, Metro Booman, the guy Drake told to go and make some drums,
Well, he went off and did make some drums
and produced, as far as I know, the first disc-dramental.
And that is a disc track with no, with no rapping on it.
It's just an instrumental, but the instrumental itself is a dis.
He posted the song for free and told his social media followers
that the best verse over the track would get a free Metro Boomin beat.
Here's a sample of that track.
B.B. L. Trisley L. Trisley.
BV. L. Trisley.
I'm thicker than a snickers. I'm thicker than your ninja.
Don't act like you don't know me. These jams are a trophy.
Maybe it ain't no mystery.
Got the best BVL in history.
This cake will make you show up.
I know you've seen it's glow up.
As B.B.L. Friskew.
Bibial Rizzee.
B.L.
BV.L.
BV.L.
Just an absolute wamper.
It was a sample of someone who's like an AI artist named King Wallonius who had like obviously made
because Drake has accusations that he's gotten a Brazilian butt lift.
Yeah, so the BBL.
The distrax.
I mean, that's not technically a distramental, Jake.
It contains words singing.
I mean, the chorus is BBL Drizzy.
He says this cake will make you blow it grow.
glow up or something. I mean, those are words. What? Those are words. She's singing. They're words.
Instrumental. Because it's for someone to rap over. Okay. Yeah. No, I see that. I'm going to stop being a little bitch about it.
Now, this was diabolical because it encouraged every amateur rapper in the world to take their own shots at Drake and potentially further their careers in the process. One artist named YN Verse posted his response and gained more than 10,000 followers in a
a single day on Twitter.
His song was played more than 21 million times.
Metro was on top of the world, just enjoying all of the tracks and collaborations
until the next day when hashtag Metro Groomin was trending after social media
sleuths uncovered some old tweets like this one.
Travis, Travis, I'm thinking Travis.
Travis should read this.
Fantastic.
So quoting this tweet by Metro Booman.
It says she might be young, but she ready.
Oh, man.
This is from 2014.
So Twitter users were finding these faster than Metro could delete them,
and they were also screenshoting, you know, because X is completely broken.
You know, you can still see the tweet, even though the text below says this tweet has been deleted.
So people were sharing that.
They were having a good time.
Metro, as far as I know, did not respond to any of that.
In the final entry, so far, of the rap beef, Drake released The Heart Part 6 on May 5th.
In the track, he denies being a pedophile, citing that he's too famous and would definitely
have been arrested had he actively pursued a minor.
He also claims that all of the information about Drake in Kendrick's discracks was misinformation
that Drake and his crew purposely put out into the streets, a theory that Drake's fans
on Twitter had been considering as they watched their guy get absolutely demolished.
So thank God that was actually the case, that all of the things.
things that Kendrick said, was misinformation that Drake and his crew did put out.
Wait, I'm being very facetious. A lot of people, a lot of the bakers on, on Reddit,
are claiming that, that essentially Drake read that. It was like, oh, that's a pretty good
comeback that I actually, I manufactured this whole thing and put out bad information and then
used it in the track. As we'll see you later, that was absolutely empirically not the case,
because we know who the leaker is, and it's not someone who likes Drake. Also, of course it's not.
Of course, it's like, who thinks I'm going to very cleverly allow my rival an enemy to think
I'm a pedophile?
This is not a clever strategy.
Or even to say, like, I'm going to make him think I'm hiding another child.
Like, it's just, it's a weird thing.
If you're going to put out disinformation, put out something really big.
So it's a really, you know, rake step when, when you reveal, you know, the receipts.
Yeah.
You know, videos of you and your buddy's planning, that that, whatever, whatever it is.
You can't prove you don't have a.
child. Like, you can't post a photo of you not having a kid. Like, it doesn't really, even if it
comes out, like, or even if nothing comes out ever about Drake having a second, like,
older kid he's hiding. Like, it'd be very stupid. I simply would not trick my enemy into calling
me a pedophile. That's just not a tactic I would employ. I'm pretty sure that's not in the art
of war. So here is a clip of Drake's final response to Kendrick in the heart part six.
understand why this the angle that you really mess with just for clarity I feel disgusted I'm too
respected if I was fucking young girls I promised I'd have been arrested I'm way too famous for the
shit you just suggested but that's not the lesson clearly there's a deeper message deep cuts that never
healed and how they got infected like if Dave really fucked your girl and got a pregnant talk about
breathing resentment not sure how to ease the sentiment the shit's too intimate I'm praying you recover from
both incidents but you a piece of shit so this shit really no coincidence Drake is not a name
that you gonna see on no sex offender list easy does it you mention an A minor but niggas got a B sharp
and tell the fans who was it you thought you left D flat D major I slid your throw with the razor
and do Rick Ross air like that one flight from Malaysia I'm your baby mama screen saver only fucking
with Whitney's not Millie Bobby Browns I never look twice at no teenager he brought up he brought up
He brought up he brought up he brought up he brought up he brought up how does one make a disc track of
so effectively. That's embarrassing.
It's a tough position to be in because making a song where you're like,
by the way, I'm not a pedophile. It's never a good luck. You can't. You cannot be cornered into
doing that. This had to feel bad. This had to feel so bad going into the booth.
God, that's so fucking embarrassing. And it's just very sleepy. The song is just not. It's clear
the trick. He's like, let's get over. Let's get this over with. Can we just stop, please?
He's like, I feel bad and I'm crying. And I'm definitely not a pedophile.
Yeah, I think the, I think, you know, besides the skill gap issue that we discussed, I don't
think Drake is mad enough. I think Kendrick Lamar is really, really genuinely mad. And Drake can't
match that level of intensity. I think he, he doesn't hate Kendrick as much as Kendrick
hates him. And therefore, you get a softer product. Also, by the way, you know, this is my
biggest, you know, sort of criticism of Drake as somebody who was following his career really closely
when he first, you know, when he first, you know, sort of came, came into the hip-hop scene.
You know, over the years, he got increasingly more, like, wanting to make drill music,
wanting to, you know, like, he's from the streets, and he's capable of violence,
and you better not say anything, like, he's going to put a hit out on you.
And none of it ever just felt authentic to me.
It's like, I was an actor, too.
I worked, when I was younger, I worked with people who had been on DeGrasi.
I know that, you know, I know what the vibe is.
And, you know, coming, you know, just because you have a lot of money doesn't necessarily make you capable of violence.
And I don't know.
There was something always off-putting once that arc became a, you know, a mainstay of Drake's sort of style and, you know, his writing or, you know, writing that he had done for him.
Very rude.
He's saying the Toronto suburbs are not a hard place.
He's saying forest hills.
It's very easy place to live.
Big slice, it's a really dangerous place, okay?
They've got very big pizzas, but they've also got very dangerous people in Toronto that
wait outside the big slice.
They wait for you to get your slice, and they're waiting for you, and Drake is there to protect.
Drake does a lot of protecting on the streets of Toronto, okay?
And he's also putting a hit out on me on some of his enemies.
All right.
Not Justin Trudeau.
He really likes Justin Trudeau, okay?
But we don't like Justin.
No, we don't like Justin.
I'm going to send him to Big Slice.
The late, the late, Great Drake.
I'm going to send Justin Trudeau to Big Slice in the middle of the night.
What is going on?
All right.
At the end of the track, Drake says that he is done with the beef and moving on with his
light.
Sources close to Kendrick Lamar explained that because Drake's last track was on the defensive,
Kendrick will not be releasing any more tracks.
That remains to be seen.
Kendrick said he had like 10 ready.
He's like, I have so many.
It would have been awesome if we got a whole album,
a whole brand new Kendrick album.
Where he's just calling Drake a Pedophile?
Yes, just 16 tracks of Kendrick calling Drake a pedophile in different ways.
My favorite was the club banger where he called Drake a Pedophile.
I like the slow jazz pedophile song too.
Yeah, I mean, this is all in all, not the best trend maybe in music.
It's just like everybody calling each other pedophiles and groomers.
I mean, it's probably also a sign of where they're,
the culture's at right now? Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, absolutely. Our culture as a whole,
not hip-hop culture, but our culture as a whole, this idea that calling somebody a pedophile or
calling them a groomer is going to get the negative attention that you so desperately desire,
you know, to be placed on this person. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if, like, the kind of
investigative journalism turn in, like, some more recent, like, large hip-hop beefs does have
a relationship to council culture possibly. That's just, like, the language people
think through especially like notable people about like I don't like someone and I want them
taken down yeah saying like you are literally a sex offender and a pedophile and uh you should be
murdered I mean I will say I do think that like I would be very surprised if Kendrick didn't
think Drake was a pedophile like I don't think oh no I think he's I do think he whether he is one is
like you know unknown but he thinks it 100% and I'm not defending Drake I'm just saying that didn't a guy
get shot up on Drake's compound?
We'll get to that. Well, I mean, but also if he, I mean, if he had genuine reason to believe
that Drake is a pedophile, you know, why would you withhold that if you're in the middle
of a rat beef? That's gold. That's true. There has not been a smoking gun yet.
Tragically, the nastiness contained within the lyrics of the Drake slash Kendrick beef eventually
bubbled off the internet resulting in real-world violence. On Tuesday, May 7th, police were called to
Drake's Toronto Mansion at around 2 a.m. in the morning. A security guard stationed outside had been
shot at from a vehicle containing multiple suspects. Police said the guard was rushed to the
hospital with life-threatening injuries, where as of this reporting, he remains in serious
condition. Over the next two days, Toronto Police responded to two more incidents at the
residents involving trespassers. So scary stuff. And the not like us, the album cover was Drake's
mansion. Yes. So say what you will about who won the beef or who's the better rapper. But
I do hope that there is no more violence around this.
You know, as a kid who grew up loving rap music in the 90s,
I can clearly remember when Tupac and Notorious B.I.G were murdered,
and it was a huge and remains to be a huge loss, you know, for hip-hop music.
So stay safe out there, Drake.
It would be crazy if the rumor was that another sex trafficking pedophile did that.
Ugh, he's cutting in on my business.
Living in the age of Q&N essentially guarantees
that any large media story related to the potential existence
of child sex trafficking rings
is going to be baked thoroughly
and not only by actual pilled people,
but anyone who has spent enough time chewing on the story
and isn't happy with the fact, like in this case,
that there's no definitive evidence
for essentially all of the allegations made on both sides.
Many even casual rap fans have tried to dig deeper
and find out more, going to shady and shadier anonymous sources claiming to have all the
secret details about all the evil stuff going on in the entertainment industry, until they
accidentally sort of pill themselves. And so I've trailed various subreddits, YouTube channels,
and tweets to find the most absurd and far-reaching claims people have made, but the seemingly
finished feud between the two rappers. Okay, so Liv is the globe emoji of this beef?
I'll start off in the fairly tame zone, and by that I mean with what actual pilled conspiracy
theorists have taken from this beef?
This is only tame insofar as we all sort of know
what general theorizing these type of people
are going to make, even really without looking.
We, in this case, being anyone whose brain
is broken enough to know how these types of guys think.
These are mainly bakes against Drake.
For a few obvious reasons, it's been
alleged that Drake and his crew are pedophiles,
he's big in the entertainment industry,
and his mother is also Jewish.
Yeah, we can kind of see
where that goes.
Yeah. One example of the type of bakes that come out of this
can be found in the R-slash conspiracy.
subreddit where one user wrote, I'll keep this short because it's pretty easy to know
slash put together. Kendrick Lamar, Kat Williams, and Kanye West have all been very vocal
recently as they all know the true extent in how deep this all goes. Before this beef, it was
widely known Drake was a pedophile, from texting 13-year-old girls to feeling young women
on stage, to leaking him having sex, to et cetera, et cetera. But what is glossed over is the
extent of this pedophilia extortion and utter debauchery. Drake is the largest person in the music
industry, the golden boy of Universal Music Group, and infinitely bankrolled by them. Similar to Diddy,
he's an industry extortionist, vulture, but ultimately a low-level player compared to who he serves.
Diddy being low-level compared to Cohen and Grange, still is powerful enough to make people
disappear and have the LAPD on their payroll. Lucian Grange, head of UMG, has been already
named in a lawsuit and excuse for sexual assault. Lucian also has connections to the IMF and
world banking, most notably getting involved in enslaving Africa in debt.
UMG is owned by Black Rock, Safe Street, Vanguard, etc.
Not only do these men rape and pillage the land for their resources and capital,
but they also literally rape and pillage the lands from kids
who are then sexually trafficked and forgotten about.
But we all know that.
The emperor truly has no clothes.
Our rulers are pedophiles.
Our musicians make millions off degrading women than extorting them in real life,
only to get raided by the FBI,
who suppress the evidence because they've been bankrolling it the whole time.
Maybe people won't realize the elites and celebrities kidnapped foreign children
and breed children for the sole purpose of sexual assault and discreet disposability,
but maybe realizing their favorite artists as a pedophile will unveil something.
Probably not.
Okay.
So a lot going on there.
A lot going on there.
And I'm no fan of the IMF and the World Bank, but Jesus Christ, buddy.
The mention of Kanye West of this art is fairly important here,
as he's essentially been making the same sort of bank as this user in relation to Lucien Grange,
CEO of Universal Music Group,
who seems to have a fairly amicable relationship to Drake,
given that Drake is the largest artist on the label.
In a remix to the song like that, that we heard a bit of before by Kanye, he asks Drake, where's Lucian and tells him to serve his master, basically furthering this idea.
And in an interview around the same time, in late April of 2024, he also calls Lucian Drake's Sugar Daddy.
It cuts Drake's soul.
It's like he's signed his soul to the devil to not be cool with me to have to like, this is his job to go against God.
Wow.
Wow.
And it cuts his soul.
say rich baby daddy. It's like Drake has a rich baby daddy named Lucian and Universal. Wow.
He's like, you know, like, man, my daddy got it. You know what I'm saying? It's like my daddy
control the spins. My daddy got the DSPs. My daddy, Drake has a rich baby daddy named Lucian.
So all of his streams and the number ones is controlled by someone named Lucian.
Well, Lucian work for people who control the banks in Africa. Okay. Kanye's not looking in tip-top
shape. No, no, he really has not been. And an important context for the very last couple
seconds of that clip is that Lucien is Jewish and severed his relationship with Kanye in 2021
during Kanye's initial anti-Semitic tirade. But also baby daddy, you'd have to, like Drake would
have to give birth. I guess he gives birth to his music, but it still doesn't quite apply.
I think he means sugar daddy. I think so. I can't seem to find any actual evidence that
Grange and Drake are close outside of business, but a crucial reason that some might be contextual
visualizing them as such is that Grange was implicated in the ongoing sexual abuse lawsuit against Diddy,
which has led to Diddy's home being raided by the FBI, which is a part of the previous bake from that Reddit user.
Initially, Grange and other members of Universal Music Group were alleged to have aided and abetted Diddy's sexual abuse ring.
While the judge for the case did eventually dismiss Grange from the suit as a result of insufficient evidence,
this obviously still makes him look pretty bad, and presumably Drake by association.
Although many on the other side of this beef, such as The Weekend, Metro Booman, and even Kendrick Lamar,
are also signed to UMG,
and have similarly friendly photos taken with Grange during public events.
Following the beef slowing down,
after, you know, Drake released his last track
and Kendrick doesn't seem to be interested in posting anymore,
many have actually baked the idea that UMG has been some sort of puppet master,
protecting their golden boy Drake
and ensuring that the truth about his pedophilia isn't exposed.
One specific anonymous blind item that was circulating a lot said exactly thus.
From an insider,
waiting on proof in the form of documents,
will update whenever I receive it.
PG-Lang, Kendrick, and XO, the weekend, as of yesterday, were asked by Universal Music Group,
UMG, to end the beef with OVO, Drake.
Kendrick apparently isn't budging at all, but UMG is pressing hard on the request to squash the beef.
UMG also had a Zoom meeting with all the parties involved,
and they want Kendrick either directly or said through PJ Lang to post a statement clarifying
that Drake isn't a pedophile if Kendrick agrees to end the beef.
Drake is losing the beef in UMG's eyes, so from UMG's perspective,
perspective, the sooner that this beef ends, the better.
The pedophilia accusations directed at Drake are costing UMG,
Nike, and other parties, quote, a lot of money.
I mean, it's not unreasonable to think that UMG is like,
guys, you can't just be like, this guy should be murdered,
and he's a pedophile, like, between their artists.
But I don't know if that's covering up, more just protecting, you know,
these large investments.
Well, it's protecting a brand asset, yeah.
Although Drake is, like, a pop star now, so he'll never go away,
Especially given, like, this Drake will be fine.
His core audience is not hip-hop people, probably.
Yeah, he'll put out another album in, like, three months and pretend like none of this happened.
But a TMC story where someone supposedly actually spoke to a UMG spokesperson,
alleged that the label wasn't actually interfering at all.
Yet this didn't stop many from baking Drake's interactions with Grange as evidence of a pedophilic
Jewish cabal protecting one of their own.
As an example, here's a post from Forchand's politically incorrect board.
We are having Jake read this because apparently there's some slurs in it.
that he's allowed to say, but not us.
I am quoting the post made to poll,
so you know where this is going, and I quote.
Apparently, triple parentheses universal music group
or triple parentheses UMG
owns some 70% of the music industry
and are involved in blackmail and human trafficking.
Word is, Drake is completely owned by UMG
and recently signed the largest music deal in history
totaling around 400 million about two years ago.
The kikes are fuming because Drake is being called out as a pedophile,
meaning their quote-unquote property isn't worth as much as they paid for.
Jesus Christ.
Allegedly, kikes from UMG get in a call with both artists and tell Lamar
he has to make amends and send a public apology toward Drake,
but instead ends with Lamar telling them to go fuck themselves.
It seems like Lamar knows he is fucking with kike money,
and his message is actively uniting all of the West Coast gangs
against triple parentheses them.
The hatred of kikes is so real
that it's actually uniting the Crips and Bloods
and every West Coast gang
that literally spend their lives killing each other.
Jesus.
I can't imagine that any of this is real.
No, it's a very odd
and obviously racist impression of the world.
Insanely racist and anti-Semitic
and is doing the white replacement
and lots of stuff.
QRD.
Kendrick gets into industry
and literally shits his pants
at the site of degeneracy.
Gathers evidence for you.
This is very Q&A.
I mean, this is very,
Trump's been planning this for 30 years.
Gathers evidence for years.
Pre-plans his disc with Drake.
Masterfully executes the bait.
Exposes mogul industry
and child predators
slash human trafficking rings
while making a number one
Spotajoo song about it.
Spotajoo.
Jesus Christ.
They're like inventing new ways
to be anti-Semitic.
Like it doesn't even work.
Like the end of Spotify.
It does not sound like you.
Yeah, it doesn't.
It doesn't work at all.
That's insane.
Threats about Drake's connections with the industry and possible UMG corruption are being
banned on Twitter and Reddit for anti-Semitism.
And to end this insane, rabidly anti-Semitic post, we have a segue into the meat and
potatoes of the episode, which is baking on various Kendrick Lamar subredits coming not necessarily
from right-wing conspiracy theories outside of the culture, but just from avid hip-hop fans
trying to find answers.
As this 4chan user continues by linking a post made to the Kendrick Lamar subreddit on May 6th,
gained 13,000 upvots and was eventually deleted and had its comments locked because, to quote
a moderator, anti-Semitic Jewish conspiracies. Retrieving an archive of the comment section
before many of the comments were deleted, one user linked to a Twitter account claiming to have
inside information named Cole Bravo, who maintains that UMG has tried to protect Drake, and when
asked over the TMZ article saying otherwise, he says,
Look Who Own TMZ? Harvey Levin, the main face and CEO of TMZ, is of course Jewish. The original
post on the Kendrick subreddit links to four blind items made from the crazy days and nights
website. For many on various Kendrick Lamar subredits, including the influx safari conspiracy theorist
drawn to them in recent weeks, this site would essentially be one of their cues. Providing
Nostradamus-style predictions and analysis about the quote-unquote butterfly rapper, Kendrick has an
album called Tipimba Butterfly, and his attempt to expose the Canadian rapper, his involvement in various
sex crimes. The text for the now deleted post that got 13,000 up votes on the Kendrick subreddit
reads. Think I might have went full schizo and went too far. These are from over a month ago.
They are called blind items and have predicted everything so far, which means someone
talked and exposed it somewhere. Kendrick has been plotting for a minute. And Portapopi?
Bruh. One of the blind items from April 3rd of 2024 reads,
Why is the Canadian rapper tied to so many people who have been accused of Harvey Weinstein crimes?
There is the not nice person who intimidated one of his victims into withdrawing her claims.
there is the port of poppy, and there is his former bird boss.
The butterfly rapper knows about it all and is getting ready to expose him.
That is why he's scared to respond.
So not nice is bad boy.
It's Baca.
Baca, not nice.
That's the guy who did have the charge of forcing the woman into prostitution.
Oh, boy.
Most of this is fairly straightforward.
Obviously, the Canadian rapper is Drake.
The not nice person is a reference to rapper Baca Not Nice that Jake mentioned before.
a former security guard for Drake, who went to jail for attempting to force a woman into prostitution,
as well as assaulting her in 2014. The trafficking charges were dropped as a result of the woman
refusing to testify, so he only served six months. As we heard before, Kendrick has even mentioned
this, being suspicious on Not Like Us, where he calls Baca's case weird. Kedrick's mention of this
has caused rap fans to speculate about the strange nature of Baca's sudden promotion from
security guard to rapper, following him gutting out. One post in the hip-hop head subreddit from May 4th
link to Baca's song, Money in the Bank, the first two bars of which read,
Locked up because a nigger didn't tell.
Real nigger never took the deal like Chappelle.
I'm pretty sure I've heard that track in NBA 2K.
That would be a weird one to have in there.
Yeah, I know, but all of the music in it is kind of like this.
The OPE of the Post speculates about this in the comments, saying...
In 2014, Baca was arrested for human trafficking.
He had no prior musical career.
When he got out of prison, he was put on OVO payroll and had his music.
In the first line of this song, he heavily implies he went to prison to be a fall guy.
I'm not necessarily sure whether the lyrics imply he was a fall guy, but he does seem to explicitly state he could have potentially ratted on some accomplice to his attempt to violently force a woman to do sex work for him, but then didn't.
But the mention of Baca and this blind item, among many other cryptic clues that the crazy days and nights page has in relation to the beef, left many Kendrick fans using it as a potential source to help unravel sinister secrets connected to Drake and his camp.
But who's behind this blind item blog?
The site's owner, who writes under the alias of anti-lawyer,
claims to have legally represented many stars in the entertainment industry,
as chosen an anonymous forum to dish about some of his clients,
as well as other celeb's secrets.
As it turns out, it's been fairly popular among
celebrity theorists since it started in the mid-aughts.
The identity of its owner, John Nelson, was only revealed
at the tail end of 2023,
following a bizarre legal dispute between him and a former lover he was having an affair with.
In reality, Nelson is not a big-time entertainment lawyer,
but instead works in a small firm in central L.A. that deals with probate law, and he was also a minor
entertainment lawyer on the side. When asked by journalist Lila Shapiro writing for Vulture about
an inconsistency in an early blog post Nelson made that implied he represented Sean Connery when
this is impossible, he said, he'd gotten the anecdotes secondhand from a law school friend who'd
worked as a gopher at an L.A. firm. When I asked him to connect me with a friend, he declined.
Quote, obviously as a lawyer, I'm very big on the truth, Nelson told me. He said he never outright
made up items, but sometimes published
tips from readers that he had, quote,
no way to verify. The less
I believe it, the more obscure and generalized
I will make it, but I don't just randomly
make up stuff. He might fudge an anecdote
now and then, but the truth mattered.
Quote, the heart of whatever you're saying
needs to be true. Okay. Well, that can be
a lot of things. Sure, buddy. For sure.
Yeah, lawyers don't lie. They're big on the truth.
Like, I wasn't making up stuff.
People were just sending me random shit,
and I was posting it. You have to defend
people you, you like, think are
guilty sometimes. I mean, no. Rongo bongo. Some on the Kendrick Lamar subreddit were
enthralled with the vague blind items Nelson was posting about Drake's potential involvement in
sex trafficking, and also Kendrick's desire to take Drake down. And as I previously stated, these
beefs seem to go too far for many of the Kendrick Lamar mods, who would delete a lot of the
speculation. A lot of users on the subreddit wanted to dig deep into absurd places to find evidence
for Drake's misdoings, often getting themselves peeled in the process. And generally, the
months responded to this by attempting to stave off these sort of sentiments from becoming more popular.
Then, on May 6th, users created the Dark Kenny subreddit.
Oh boy. Another dark character. God damn it. Dark Biden, dark everything.
Made for speculation in bakes into Drake's potential pedophilia not allowed on the main Kendrick
subreddit. On one post from Dark Kenny, the user asks why their bakes surrounding the blind
items are being auto-deleted on R.S. Kendrick Lamar. To which one commenter replies,
They don't want liability from UMG.
So the conspiracy has even led to the Kendrick Lamar mods, you know, calling things quote-unquote anti-Semitic and deleting them.
New blind items related to the beef are posted to Dark Kenny to be baked by the users as if they're basically cue drops.
One example being the obsession many users had with the idea of dogs being in some way subject to sexual abuse by Drake in his camp.
One mention of dogs from the blind items comes from a post on March 15th of this year, which says,
The Dutch rapper can thank the Canadian rapper for drawing the world's attention to his activities.
He badmouths him to anyone who will listen, especially when there are women around.
He talks about what the Dutch rapper did to a family in some place called Yalding
and how he perforated the father's colon as his children screamed.
He talks about how he uses his dog to lure school-age girls.
He talks about how he makes money in Dubai.
He talks about the dogs and how jealous he was when the Canadian rapper collaborated with the middle alphabet rapper.
I think the Dutch rapper is Dutchieveli, who's a British rapper.
Okay.
But users would also go on to bake any mention of dogs.
dogs connected to Drake, who has a recent album titled For the Dogs.
It seemed to be convinced that Kendrick was also warning people about this.
On a post titled, Kendrick alludes to the Drake dog stuff on the Dark County subreddit.
One user quotes two Kendrick lines as if the illusion is self-evident.
On Meet the Grams, fuck a rap battle, he should die so all of these women can live with a purpose.
And then on 616 in LA.
Every dog got to have its day.
Now live in your purpose.
And women live and purpose are in bold.
And then dog live and purpose are also in bold.
Which is just self-evident, according to them, is, like, proof that there's some dog stuff going on.
I've got bad news about a very famous rapper called Snoop.
There's a one-to-one correlation between this and QAnon, because in QAnon, they have something called dog code,
where they think that every mention is a secret reference to politicians being put down like dogs.
Well, there you go.
Another example of these sort of bags come from May 11th, when Crazy Days at Nights posted a blind eye in which read.
Speaking of the former wheelchair actor, what he claims were things to set up his rival are actually from a sting,
complete with footage, of some very bad things the former actor did.
It feels like he is going to have to write a very big check to someone to make it all go away.
The wheelchair rapper being, of course, Drake, as he played someone in a wheelchair during his acting years on Degrassi.
Commenters are dark-kennie essentially treat this info like it's a drop.
One user bakes it by saying,
A sting? So maybe they raided Drake and he gave up puff?
One commenter connects the mention of footage to a viral.
set of tweets by a Twitter user named Emity Prince. They went viral a day or so behind these
planned items. This to me seems to be obviously what these posts are about, as they mentioned
that something by Drake is an attempt to set up his rival. The setup comes from bakes made by the
other side of this beef, Drake fans, who, as Jake alluded to before, claimed that the album art
for Kendrick's Meet the Grams, which included a bundle of items clearly owned by Drake,
like an Ozempic prescription in his name, was in reality actually a ruse by Drake to feed
Kendrick fake information.
This theory seems to either begin on Twitter
or the R-slash Drizzi subreddit,
the one for Drake, with one early instance of it
coming from Twitter user Sheehan was here
early on May 4th of 2024.
Drake trolled KDOT. He sent that album
cover to Kendrick's team to make fun of him.
The receipt is for the ring in the video.
The Ozzympic and gloves is
poking fun at Ross and the shirt
is to call Kay Short. The daughter
was planted for the mole. Oh my
God. These people are so
far gone. The daughter
was planted for the mole.
This is like fucking trying to
watch the last 10 minutes of a Mission Impossible
movie. But the Ozempic prescription
it's a real prescription
in Drake's name for Ozempic.
I got you. I got a real
prescription and then planted it
as evidence for you.
And you believed that I'm actually on
Ozempic. This period was only
involved in by the fact that the official cover art
for Meet the Grams when it finally went to streaming
services was not the photo of Drake's OZempe.
prescription and other valuable items as it was before, but instead a black screen,
showing that maybe Kendrick had realized he had been baited.
Drake would then come to actually use this bake as the official OVO line on the Heart Part 6.
Even the picture you use, the jokes and the medication,
the made bad glove and the drug he uses for less inflation.
Master manipulator, you bid on a speculation.
When this bake was made official canon, users on our slash Jersey and Twitter,
who thought it up beforehand, felt elated that they had uncovered a secret code created by Drake so hard to decipher
Even Kendrick didn't get it.
Now, this is another one-to-one with QAnon, I feel like, because you have, you know, Q's sort of throwing stuff out and then, you know, that's vague, users coming in and baking it down to something more specific.
And then Q signaling to those users by either quoting them and drops saying, yes, that's correct.
You know, you got this right.
And if it is true that Drake read these theories on, you know, read these theories online and then went, oh, yeah, that's a pretty good comeback.
I'm going to use it.
that that does correlate to Q and on using takes or narrative sort of posted by Q followers
and then incorporating them into future drops.
If this attempts by Drake to set up his rival, as the blind item put it, would backfire
and become disproven following a tweet by Ebony Prince, a user whose first post on Twitter
on May 10th containing a video of Drake's property from the Meet the Grimm's cover.
It also included the front page of that day's newspaper, a view which sleuths would come to
find is the Mark Hotel in New York, and a caption which read,
Number one, King, at Kendrick Lamar is not a liar and I am not a thief.
Number two, Mr. Aubrey Graham at Drake and Mr. Livingston Allen at academics,
have until noon Monday 51324 to retract your claims of theft
or my attorney, Miss Adrienne Edward, and I will exhaust every legal option available.
So it's just, oh, this Ebony Prince stuff just came in to be like an extra layer of insanity to all this.
Yeah, it's one of the more confusing things because the
tweets are just confusing. He's he has a bad time kind of articulating what he's actually talking about
and he's what he wants to be like a fosciatore on purpose as well to kind of create hype around it.
He likes to post like chess boards with like blood under the pieces and stuff.
The subredits were elated. It seemed that whoever this user was, he hated Drake and he was clearly
not a fake mole planted by him to do 5D chess against Kendrick. Most of his posts are
cryptic and confusing to the point where it's hard to really understand what he's even claiming.
And there are quite a few of them since the account's first tweet on May 10th,
190 in the last six days.
Generally, they're about, like, the nature of power of Drake being deceitful,
although he references Drake in, like, the second person.
Hints that he is a big info bomb he's about to drop, etc.
Oh, yeah, the moab, dude, the moab's about to drop.
This is also very QAnon.
It's like the red button, you know.
Here's an example of a QAnon style cryptic thing he tweeted out.
48 laws of power.
This is why we must always treat others nicely.
you never know with whom you're dealing.
Wrong, you are.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
But one post he made on May 10th raised some eyebrows about what the account was actually claiming when it read,
To Mr. Aubrey Graham, at Drake, may this photo help jog your memory as to where you discarded those items.
The issue in the photo should also jog your memory.
Jimmy Brooks would not have been proud of you that night.
The tweet included a screenshot from a security camera at the mark, an upscale hotel in New York that Drake frequents,
which includes reporter Christopher.
Alvarez. What got many rat beef baker's attention here was the fact that Alvarez has a skeletal
disorder called the natatropic dysplasia, as he's seen in a wheelchair on the security footage,
and Ebony Prince notes that Jimmy Brooks wouldn't be proud of Jake. Jimmy Brooks being the character
Drake played who uses a wheelchair from Nagrasia. Another related post-Ebony Prince makes in this period
is a screenshot of the date of this CCTV footage with the caption,
One year, three months, 22 days. Those were good men. Ever heard of an Ebony scandal?
Well, well, welcome to the game.
Okay, this is just, I mean, even the tone, the questions, everything.
God damn it, we're never going to be done.
We're never going to be done.
We're never going to be done.
We're never going to get rest.
Nope.
You know, it will be nice, though, that when our time is finally up here, I think we'll be good and exhausted.
You know, we won't have, you know, we won't be, oh, I wish I could stay a little bit longer.
I think, you know, especially Travis, we'll be ready for the deep sleep.
Travis is currently in a Lennon-style casket, and he's looking waxing.
Travis's mausoleum.
So this footage supposedly involves something happening to good men and potentially something bad involving Alvarez.
In later tweets and in DMs, Ebony Prince says he will only release the full footage for $800,000.
Oh my God.
Imagine if Q had asked for money.
Oh, that would have been.
That's so awesome.
Implying that it's a or maybe the truth bomb that he's sitting on.
Some users even thought that maybe the mole had been Alvarez himself.
When on Twitter, for instance, baked the fact that Ebony Prince had used a copy of the Daily Eagle
to verify the date of his video, as Alvarez is a reporter for the Daily Eagle.
And Alvarez had interviewed Drake before, and the two were seemingly on good terms.
A username King Jared baked the fact that Alvarez had posted himself from the Mark Hotel
day after the CCTV screenshot, which was possibly from the same balcony that Ebony Prince's
video with Drake's Possessions was filmed at.
You could see it's like the same view, maybe and it's not the same floor.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
I don't know anything.
This is actually fucking taking away from my brain.
This is like, it's like we're hunting the fucking xenomorph and the acid has splashed back on me and I am dying.
But this is the same thing, right?
Kewan would often post these kind of blurry photos.
And users would bake where they were, were they on the same, you know, outside of Michael Avanotti's office, all of that shit.
It's so reminiscent of it.
Somebody even baked that maybe Alvarez was in on the pedophilia, helping procure minors for Drake to sex traffic.
I can't quite find with this originates, but it seems that users look through Alvarez's Instagram followers
and noticed that he was following some amount of, like, minors, seeing this as evidence that they were being procured by him for Drake.
I found one user on Twitter saying this.
The disabled person Drake has been seen with is Christopher Alvarez, and he's Drake's sponsor for finding minors.
Christopher is following a ton of minors on Instagram.
Look for yourself.
Okay, that's not how the word sponsor there doesn't make any sense.
Yet most other people, looking for a smoking gun about Drake's evil sex crimes,
came to the conclusion that Albany Prince was attempting to tell all of us that Alvarez had gone up to Drake's suite at the mark that night
and been physically and sexually abused by Drake and his crew.
Many users on Reddit and elsewhere began to find potential clues really.
released by Kendrick that might connect to Alvarez, like one TikTok user Jay William J. William Jay, who got 450,000 likes on a video pointing this out.
With that being said, I need y'all to listen to this real quick.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Now if you know Kendrick, he's very intricate and everything, but just think about this.
That sounds very deliberate. Like, why did it take so long for the instrumental to even start playing? And what is that sound?
in the back. So if you aren't aware, someone who is either the mole or someone who got information directly from Drake's camp
came out recently and broke the silence. He came out and recorded the things that were on the cover for Meet the Grams,
and he threatened legal action against Drake and academics for calling him a thief and basically revealing that none of it was planted and that it's probably real.
Mr. Aubrey Graham, Drake, may this photo help jog your memory as to where you discarded those items.
The issue in the photo should also jog your memory.
Jimmy Brooks would not have been proud of you that night. Stick with me. I've been going down a rabbit hole.
Other people have posted this Reddit thread where people have been discussing that sound at the beginning of 616.
And a bunch of respiratory therapists have been commenting saying it sounds like some sort of portable ventilator.
When analyzing the CCTV footage that was put out there by that person who might be the mole or something who has information,
they've analyzed that you can see the tubes in the picture of that person in that wheelchair and they might be carrying a portable ventilator.
So Kendrick made a ventilator sound at the start of 616 in L.A. to hint that Alvarez had been abused, maybe.
teenager is in his mom's kitchen and there are people around him and it's like it must be so fucking
exhausting to have like a goddamn pilled teenager in the house just making TikTok videos you just walk in
and your son is fucking pointing up and talking about the mole but i mean here's yet another example
it's not good enough that kendrick you know outwrapped drake well the fact that they got disc tracks
in the first place because kendrick fans have been waiting forever for kendrick to do a
proper, you know, Drake Dis, right? And they got it. And boy, did they get it. They got, you know,
six tracks, you know, over the course of, you know, the last couple of weeks, you know, and the
tracks are good. It's good music. You can bum it. And it's not enough. It's not enough, actually,
the reality that what they got, they have to go further. And this has to be QAnon, because people
want the actual evidence. Yes, this is a recurring themes. That even when you get what you want,
it's not good enough. It has to, there has to be deeper meaning. There has to
be a deeper crime uncovered. There has to be more clues to analyze. It's just reality, even when
it's the reality that you wanted that you hoped for, is not good enough. It's just, it's a
fucking exhausting trend. And it's like, when, when will it be? I don't know. I don't know if it will
be. The slurry of allegations against Alvarez or maybe for him against Drake, heightened over the
span of just a few days until Alvarez released an article for the Brooklyn Eagle detailing his
experiences with Drake at the Mark Hotel that night.
I can confirm that I was with Drake on the night of January 22nd, 2023, after his
NYC concert with 21 Savage.
I was called to meet Drizzy at the Mark Hotel, and we had a blast listening to new beats.
I am not in the position to talk about his character outside of our meetings, but I can say
I was not violated in any way.
I have been getting a lot of spam phone calls, texts, emails, and social media messages saying
that I am the quote unquote snitch in this beef, that I accepted, quote, hush,
money from Drake and that I was somehow in on the plan because I follow, quote, underage
high school girls. First, I don't know anything about Drake and Lamar's beef because to me,
life is too short to hate and I don't follow it. Second, I'm a hardworking journalist who
holds elected officials and private entities accountable. I don't have rappers on speed
dial to be, quote, the mole or snitch. The most revealing passage from this article related to
Ebony Prince is connected to Alvarez's explanation for what the supposedly bad deed had been
that Drake had committed related to disabled people, where Alvarez says,
There are rumors that a hotel security guard was fired for letting me wait inside the hotel
instead of leaving me out to freeze.
I believe this is true and I feel bad.
I'm sorry to him and his family.
Good people doing good things out of the kindness of their hearts should not be condemned,
and the Mark Hotel should reassess who they put at the top of the chain.
The Brooklyn Eagle has reached out to the Mark Hotel for comment and will update with their response.
So this likely reveals that Ebony Prince's allusion to the good men that suffered as a result of some altercation,
came from Drake maybe forgetting to let Alvarez into the hotel, leaving him out in the cold,
and this being blamed on two staff members of the mark who were then fired, something along
these lines.
Okay.
Yet Ebony Prince was absolutely not fond of Alvarez's reply to him being mentioned, as obviously
it seems to say that whatever truth bomb he was sitting on, that he was trying to ransom for
800K, wasn't that big a deal and just involved two men working for the hotel getting fired for
not letting Alvarez in.
Ebony Prince, for instance, tweeted, I am disappointed in Mr. Alvarez, but we all know this
saying birds of a feather must have been a good check but are you so stupid as to forget there
is a video i cannot be bought actually you can 800k that's literally what you're proposing you named
the price some members of our slash dark kenny decided to follow ebony prince's general line on the
situation as obviously alvers's explanation it is boring it's not interesting it's not fun
there's not a secret pedophile ring behind it that we can expose and find one user
for instance, in a post titled,
We Got to Get to the Bottom of this, says...
So the Alvarez article is up, and it just seems very weird?
Some of the contents in the article,
especially the last few paragraphs, seem to be off.
If there is some sinister shit going on
involving children, animals, abuse, etc.,
we need to come together and solve this shit.
Well, that solves it there.
Because if there is, and there isn't.
Done. You can log the fuck off.
It's an if statement.
Help your mom with the fucking dishes.
The top comment of the post agrees,
are flying. Never mentioned the oddity
of it being 3 a.m. He was just up
chilling Drake knew and asked him to
come and listen to beats, or was he
already in the hotel? Drake
seen him, knew he was, then
asked if he wanted to come and chill at
3 a.m. Is that what Drake
likes to do, though? I don't know, man.
This shit is weird. Like, no,
it's not. It's weird because you can see
the inside of your skull.
Yeah, it's like
you've backed your, you're
in the third person camera. You've backed
up too close to the screen and you can see your eyeballs and teeth from inside your head.
Is the implication, like, 3am is when you do like child sex trafficking crimes, not when
you just hang out with guys and listen to music.
Yeah, as if the show didn't go super late and, you know, it's like, I mean, you don't know
that, but maybe it did, maybe it didn't.
Who cares 3am is not suss?
I stay up every single night till that time.
Just kidding.
Sometimes I get to bed.
I feel so bad.
I'm so, I'm hungry.
This is torture for Julia.
It is torture.
It really is.
I feel so shit.
I'm so fucking furious.
My upper back hurts.
This is the one time I do feel bad, torturing Julian.
Yeah, me too.
While some are still vaguely pushing the idea that Alvarez might still be a victim of sexual abuse,
most in the dark Kenny suburb now think that he may be an accomplice to sex crimes.
Other components of Ebony Prince's long list of confusing tweets, many of which
reads sort of like a Batman villain monologue, have given us sort of a vague idea of what
he's actually claiming, although again, even figuring this out requires a lot of
detective work, users on Reddit piece together that he was likely a former employee of the Mark
Hotel, given his access to CCTV footage, and had taken Drake's items from the quote-unquote
lost and found when they weren't picked up by Drake's team. He fed the photo of these goods
to Kendrick at some point, which seemingly tipped off Drake and the mark about who likely had
them, and they're presumably pressing some sort of legal claim to get them back. This is probably
what he meant when he tweeted, you see, the minute you said stolen, you introduced a dilemma
in my world, more specifically
my professional world.
I have a very unique set of skills
learned over a long career
of working at this hotel.
Not again.
Not again!
Now this doesn't explain a few things about Ebony Prince's tweets.
One of which is the allusions he makes to Drake
committing some form of child sexual abuse
that he seems to say that he's witnessed
and that he won't stand by and just allow.
Indicated, for instance, in a tweet where he posted a
photo of a certificate of completion
for how to report child sexual abuse,
So now they're doing surveys online?
No, he's...
It's like how you were reported in a professional context is my understanding,
and it's like he's filled it out to deal with Drake.
Okay.
And a lot of his cryptic tweets have specifically egged on speculation
about how Drake could possibly be connected to this.
One example being his continual encouragement of influencer T. Sittels,
who has gotten a lot of views on YouTube recently baking the shit out of this situation.
As an example, here's a clip from one of her videos titled,
Christopher Alvarez confirms Drake did some disturbing things to him,
which, to be clear, happened after the article from the Brooklyn Eagle was released.
It seems to be the running theory is that Drake used the LGBT community,
specifically the House of Ebony, to host caviar parties.
Caviar parties are Diddy-style freak-offs that involve youngins, maybe animals,
and definitely any other fetish.
Christopher Alvarez, it is assumed something bad happened to him while he was with Drake.
Kendrick seems to have known that's why he put that ventilator.
And when he said, Sondra, your boy's a six-sixth man, baby, he meant it.
I mean, these people clearly think that posting photos of Alvarez like connotes a child,
but he's an adult with a disability.
Anyways, I just, there's so many goddamn layers.
It's awful. It's awful.
But like Q, it seems like Ebony Prince has been like kind of egging these sort of people on,
saying like, you're on the right track.
Keep going.
So it's something that he wants to.
kind of create, although I think most people have kind of gotten bored of him at this point,
because he said he had some red button, some, you know, Moab, so to speak, and he just hasn't
released it. But there's plenty of other bizarre bakes around this, some connected to Kat
Williams, the idea of humiliation rituals, and also conspiracies about Kendrick owning an
apartment at the Mark Hotel, which was used to gather info, and many, many more. But this
episode is already way too long. And you guys sort of gotten the gist of this point of all the insane stuff
that's happened in the past few weeks following Kendrick and Drake's rap feud. Wow, I did
not have hiring a hitman on the dark web to do a kung fu kenny to jake and live on my bingo card for
2024 and whoa this one might have broken julian ah could you please Corey please put in the
sound of a shotgun cocking thank you shots yes then put in two shots now thank you now you can't
keep laughing because that's doesn't it breaks the whole k-fabe here
Travis, how do you feel about all this?
Well, you know, I think it just reinforces that the human thirst for esoteric knowledge is bottomless.
We're so unsatisfied with what we know and our perception of the world.
We're constantly hopeful that, you know, there's something that's going to break this illusion.
Something that'll sort of blow away the fog and make things clear because we feel so confused all the time.
And it just never comes.
That moment of clarity, that moment where the veil is lifted,
ever, ever, ever happens.
So we're left to, uh, you know,
speculate and connect the dots and bake and then rely upon anonymous trolls on
Twitter forever.
You say it's bottomless, Travis, but it appears this story has many bottoms.
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