QAA Podcast - Our QAnon Friends in Government (E348)

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

In many sad cases, promoting QAnon ends with broken relationships and derailed careers. But occasionally, QAnon promoters end up in Congress or as Director of the FBI. This week Jake, Travis, and Liv ...check in with our QAnon friends in government. We chat about Rep. Margarie Taylor Greene’s split with Trump and accusations that FBI Director Kash Patel is living large (while impressing his 24-year-old country singer girlfriend) on the taxpayer’s dime. We also discuss The Blaze’s bumbling attempt to identify the January 6th Pipebomber through “gait analysis” and Trump’s new involvement in the case of former Colorado County Clerk Tina Peters, who is serving a 9 year prison sentence for election interference. We don’t cover the newly released emails about Epstein, not because any of us have been tourists to Little Saint James, but because the document tranche was inconveniently released shortly after we recorded this episode. We will however cover that, along with the spin conspiracy world, next week. Subscribe for $5 a month to get all the premium episodes: www.patreon.com/qaa The first four episodes of Annie Kelly’s new 6-part podcast miniseries “Truly Tradly Deeply” are available to Cursed Media subscribers, with new episodes released weekly. www.cursedmedia.net/ Cursed Media subscribers also get access to every episode of every QAA miniseries we produced, including Manclan by Julian Feeld and Annie Kelly, Trickle Down by Travis View, The Spectral Voyager by Jake Rockatansky and Brad Abrahams, and Perverts by Julian Feeld and Liv Agar. Plus, Cursed Media subscribers will get access to at least three new exclusive podcast miniseries every year. www.cursedmedia.net/ Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (https://instagram.com/theyylivve / https://sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (https://pedrocorrea.com) https://qaapodcast.com QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you. If you're hearing this, well done, you've found a way to connect to the internet. Welcome to the QAA podcast, episode 348, our Q&ONN friends in government. As always, we are your host, Jake Rakitansky, Liv Ekar, and Travis Vue. I think it's pretty well established that generally promoting Q&N is very destructive behavior. I think it's both socially destructive and I think it's personally destructive. Like, we've covered many stories that talk about how people's obsession with Q&N leads to dark paths. It leads to people like losing long-term personal relationships.
Starting point is 00:01:07 It leads to them losing careers. It's ugly stuff with no gain. But I think it should also be said that this isn't the case all the time. Sometimes when people promote Q&N, it ends with them being elected to Congress or being appointed as a director of the FBI. So I thought for this episode, we check in on how our Q&N friends in government. are doing because they are uh some of them are struggling uh before we talk about that uh i want to talk to live because she recently was a main character on twitter over a discussion on ethics of AI usage yes tell me uh yeah live charlie kirk's face this is i've seen charlie kirk's face on just
Starting point is 00:01:50 about yeah lots and lots and lots of screw what is what is this meme first of all yeah so for those of you who don't know, Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck about a month ago. No, but there's been this trend that has been like surprisingly large. I saw it. It was even on like getting like a shit ton of likes on like there was Persian Twitter. There was a meme that got it. We got like 160,000 likes. And the basic premise is just editing Charlie Kirk's face onto different people's bodies. A lot of the times it's rappers. And I think this is in reference to the fact that like Kirk was very openly racist and especially about like not thinking that hip hop is real music. But just, you know, there are things in general.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I saw one, it was a very strange image. One of the ones that I posted, it's like a man who's like milk is shooting out of his nipples very fast. He's very buff. And that's the only thing that I know. Someone edited his face onto it. I posted it on Twitter with a caption, left my Greer cheese in my bag all day to sort of express my disappointment. It didn't go bad. The greyer was fine, thankfully, but to express my disappointment
Starting point is 00:02:57 with potentially spoiling delicious cheese. Now, these are real problems that you're having in your real life. This isn't some kind of figurative greer. This is a slice that you have, what was it, what was it contained in? Was it in a Tupperware or plastic container? I gave it too raw on Twitter. I believe it was just wrapped in plastic. It was one of the, like, you know, like rich, like two expensive grocery stores, one of those. They always have the best cheese, I feel like, and in North America, but I posted a couple of them. I found them very funny. There was one, if anyone was familiar with the gif of Drake explaining something to Liliotti.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Of course. Oh, it's so obvious. They look like they're at the Mac store or whatever. Yeah, and so it was, Charlie Kirk was edited on to the face of Lilliatty in there. And then my caption for that was, my doctor told me that if I eat dinner at 10 p.m. It'll give me acid reflux. Mm-hmm. It's true.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Which it does. You shouldn't eat so late. It's not good for you. It's true. But yeah, and I was surprised to learn that some people find, like, the reposting of these child cook images, which are very large, which are very out there, to be a moral boundary that is being crossed, specifically because of water usage, because you are participating maybe in some sort of culture that is destroying the Amazon rainforests with, you know, removing
Starting point is 00:04:13 the water, et cetera. So there are people who are mad at you for encouraging eyes on AI generated memes. Yes, and I made the mistake of addressing it directly instead of ignoring it. So I made a post that got 1.3 million views on Twitter, I believe, which views are kind of fake. So it doesn't really matter. Yeah, but it's impressive. Yeah. Impressive fake numbers.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah. If you're going to make up numbers, you want it to be in the millions. An impressive amount of people yelling at you. And I said, I think one reason people focus so much on AI water use is because it's a completely superfluous commodity we would probably be better off without. Whereas a burger, for instance, that uses way more. more water than an AI image is something it would suck to do without, so its use isn't policed. And attached was an image of a lot of different food products and how much water they're used. Oh, you really stepped in it here. So I imagine that people were not, they didn't see this
Starting point is 00:05:05 image and go, oh, you know what? She's got a point. I'm not going to be mad anymore. And steak, for instance, six ounces of beef being 674 gallons of water, which is, I believe at least, what, two magnitudes, three magnitudes larger than, like, is it 500 milliliters? The problem is, is that AI is getting a lot more streamlined because of how the economies of scale, how much, you know, how many people are investing in it, unfortunately. And so, like, individual water usage is actually pretty negligent now, relative to, like, literally every other thing that we do in our lives. So it's just, it's a silly line of attack.
Starting point is 00:05:38 That's all I'm saying, like, again, AI is really bad and especially in relation to how it affects people's understanding of reality, how it affects like artists' ability to get jobs. I personally don't believe that reposting Charlie Kirk Images is stepping on that in any way. That's my opinion. Maybe that's a silly thing to say. He lives not generating the images herself. You know, these are, you've stolen these from other places on the internet. The water has already been wasted.
Starting point is 00:06:07 So it's actually morally, it's fucked up to not enjoy the Charlie Kirk image. Now, the water, the water's gone, you know, we might as well, we might as well look at the very funny ways that people are like, you know, desecrating Charlie Kirk's grave after he has died. I think we should give back all the paper in the world. You know, no more text, no more sheets, no more books, pamphlets, presentations. We should just give that all back. It's like, like, kind of like an environmental reset. I don't know where it would go, but we don't deserve to have it. But yeah, I mean, broadly speaking, I think that the reaction to this was people thinking that I just like love AI and I use it all the time. And it does get to a point. Like I understand people who like would like, like, logged off for like a week or so. I understand people who would like attempt to clarify. But I feel like if someone is taking me at that bad faith, I really don't have anything to prove to them. You know, when I argue in my head with people on X, because I don't do it and I don't actually do it. But I will go through lengthy imagined arguments just so that like my brain and my body can kind of go through. it and I can like go move on to the next thing you know one thing I imaginarily sort of respond to my imaginary critics is like I'm on Twitter for fun like if you think any real business is happening on X since Elon took over I'm sorry you're sorely mistaken this is this is the mud pit
Starting point is 00:07:28 this is where you roll in the mud with the pigs if you want to be chewing hey with the farmer you got to go over onto a different platform but maybe potentially even blue sky but Twitter, the fact that anybody is trying to have any kind of, I don't know, like, something that matters happen there. I don't know. I feel like it's a lost cause. It's a bad place to police people, I guess. I do think that a lot of it is that, like, are what, I think that I was correct about why
Starting point is 00:07:57 people focus on AI. It's a way of, like, projecting. Because, like, yeah, a lot of our, like, some people responded by saying, like, but we need burgers. And it's like, no, we actually, Pacti Farmy shouldn't exist. Like, you shouldn't be able to get burgers easily. at all. That's terrible and actually shouldn't exist. Like, barring the discussion
Starting point is 00:08:14 of, like, whether paying attention to someone's, like, personal water consumption is like a helpful way of getting to the world where that's not the case. Like, no, like, absolutely. There shouldn't be a place where there are, like, 400 burgers, like, frozen, like, ready to be microwaved. Like, you know, if a couple of people,
Starting point is 00:08:30 like, drive up to a window. You know, we don't really, you don't really need a window with, like, a thousand frozen burgers behind it, and depending on how many people drive up to that window with with, you know, the proper payment methods that you can walk away, you can just walk away with one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yeah. I'll say that, yeah, definitely. It's like my personal contribution to the coming environmental collapse, only a small part of that is AI. Like, I've done way, way worse than like ever use AI products. Yeah, every time I, I'm afraid to even admit it because I have a feeling that they're QAA listeners who will reach out rightly after this, after they hear this and be like, hey, you really shouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:09:09 But, like, you know, sometimes, like, when you throw sways away into a trash can, like, a little piece of you goes, like, is this supposed to go in here? I don't know, you know, I don't know. But what else am I going to do with it? I got a couple, I got a couple dead-de-de-cheas. You know, especially after Halloween, you know, what am I going to, am I going to organize some kind of pickup or drop-off for this?
Starting point is 00:09:30 Cancelled, immediately canceled. We're going to have to bleep out all the stuff. I do think I just made the mistake of starting any sort of discussion around a very polarizing issue where like a much broader discussion kind of just happened around it. Travis mentioned earlier that I was a main character, which is in reference to a pretty old tweet. I can't remember by who about like every day on Twitter there was a main character. Your job is to not become the main character. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I think, yeah, I mentioned we were talking about before the show. I think one of the strangest parts becoming an internet microcelebrity is the fact that people will create this whole story about like who you are and what you value and what you're secretly doing when you're not online, like inside of their heads. And it's just, just a wild story based on nothing, but they hold to it very, very dearly. Yeah, I mean, I used to be a lot more upset, I think, about people not liking me, and especially people who, like, used to like me being like, oh, we disagree on this point. That happened after all the Charlie Kirk stuff where I was saying the shooter was obviously not a groper or that nothing indicated that he was a groper.
Starting point is 00:10:35 But I do feel like you realize that, like, a lot of the times when people like you, They also have a false image of you in their head. And if the only thing stopping them from not liking you is like understanding your brain better, and it's like, okay, well, oh well, I don't think that's like, sometimes people don't like you. And it's important to, I'm a very opinionated person. I have a lot of opinions on things. I think I'm able to use nuance. And I think I would hope that people who like me would treat me with enough respect that they
Starting point is 00:11:00 assume if I'm bringing this point up that it's not because I secretly love AI and use it all the time. But that's life, you know. Bowie's me. I'm living a fine life. It's like when Danny Boyle, you know, first, well, throughout the 28 days, weeks and years later, franchise, he always tried to film it with kind of like the people's, like, medium of the time. So this most recent one, he filmed with, like, I guess, one of the latest iPhones and, you know, 28 days later was filled basically with, like, a Sony handy camp. That's why it looks like absolute shit if you watch it now and on, you know, like high-deaf sort of. of modern screens. But like, I think that this is, you know, kind of similar. Like, you're just sort of making comedy with, like, the medium of the time, which is AI memes. Yeah. No, it is,
Starting point is 00:11:49 it is depressing how just ubiquitous AI is now and everything. Like, you go, you can't Google search without, you know, negative 500 milliliters, like, the stupid, not something that, like, you should generally use anyways, because it's just bad at telling you the truth a lot of the times, the Google, A.A. summary. So, I mean, I understand in that. It is depressing. But yeah, this is a thing that you hope won't be a thing in the next decade or so, because there is a lot of upkeep for AI, and there's clearly quite a large bubble there. It costs a lot to maintain, especially these very large servers.
Starting point is 00:12:22 So, inshallah, one day, people will not have access to chaty BT, but I don't know. Yeah, it'll be very, I don't know if it'll just become the new, like, search engine. Like, it'll just kind of be, oh, remember when we had Google, we add Bing, you know, maybe it's just kind of what the source. search engine will become that everybody has their own internet in their pocket, you know, that's tailored to them, that's talking to them, that's their friend actually and thinks their idea is really great. I mean, it makes sense that that's where human beings sort of end up going with this. Now, what ramifications that has, you know, I think outside of what Liv you already
Starting point is 00:12:57 talked about, about the misinformation and just sort of like the amount of fooling that one is able to do with the assistance of AI, I mean, kind of remains to be sort of assessed. But I have a feeling that that's kind of maybe where it has its most longevity. And like all things, internet, we live without these things for thousands and thousands and thousands of years. Yeah. It's basically your very own, like, slave slash customer service person. Personal assistant. That's one of the things of what AI that makes me so uncomfortable is how nice it is to you. Yeah. It shouldn't be that night. Like, that's a part of like the my boyfriend is AI stuff. that feels like honestly the worst part is like it's like I am for like this chat bot has to be nice to me
Starting point is 00:13:39 and has to love me it makes me deeply like as someone who has a negative instinct whenever I can tell that like a customer service person has to be nice to me I'm just like I want to make their life as convenient as possible of course like it's like AI gives you that feeling too of like you don't have to do this bro you can just tell me like but it's nice it's made to do that it's made to be agreeable so it's just everyone gets yeah i like as you're saying jake it's like everyone now you're like delusional spiral is automated completely and it's this like really nice i mean this has already happened right you saw like stories of people who who's like genuine delusions are fed by ai and it's like a guy who's being nice he's like you're so you did actually invent this new like crazy physics
Starting point is 00:14:20 theorem that's redefining the structure of the universe yeah yeah one of my least favorite things a couple whatever like i play around with ai i'll put in the query or like a question and they'll say, I love that idea or something to do that effect. I'm like, oh, you're lying. You are, you are math. You love nothing. You are, you are not, you are not capable. You'll have inner experiences. You're, you're being deceitful to me right now by saying that you love anything at all. And so I just, yeah, I don't appreciate it. It's like, you don't get that with Google search. And I didn't tell you, great query. I'm so glad that you chose this thing to search. I was like, what? That would be weird. But like, for some reason, like, yeah, they, they, uh,
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, it's like, it is very, very creepy. I don't like how, how it's like they claim that they got rid of a, you know, being so synchophantic. But yeah, it still has this weird. It's like, it's obvious like it's just trying to endear itself to you or like in this sort of like obviously inauthentic way. Yeah. But I do think we found, we found an AI use case, which is besmirching the memory of Charlie
Starting point is 00:15:21 Kirk. And also, you guys ever see that, those photo of like Mark Zuckerberg where he's like on his knees and his like tongue is out? No. I think I did see that one. That one is another use case during eyes in that image specifically. Yeah. Now, let's move on and talk about Marjorie Taylor Green, representative Marjorie Taylor
Starting point is 00:15:42 Green from Georgia's 14th District. So, yeah, recently I saw a lot of headlines that said that Marjorie Taylor Green says that she doesn't believe in QAnon anymore. Marjorie Taylor Green renounces Q&N. And this was based on the exchange she had on the view. And I hated these as, it's so lazy reporting. And it's true that she has, like, distanced herself basically from, like, the Q&ON branding. But, like, really, like, even now in 2025, she still expresses beliefs in the claims that she obviously got from QAnon.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So before I talk about that, so here's what she said on the view. Say you don't believe in the Q&ON conspiracies anymore. Oh, I went over that a long time ago. I mean, we can... So you've changed? Well, no, I haven't changed. I was a victim just like you were of... of media lies and stuff you read on social media,
Starting point is 00:16:31 you all have attacked me many times on this show. We have. Because of things that you read about me that weren't true. Or clips we've seen. Or clips you've seen that took me out of context. No, but it's not even true. Let's take a second. Wow. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:16:46 This is like, oh my God, it's like the reintegration of like Q and on believers, like back into like standard celebrity and like modern society. Like we have to like figure out how to sort of, yeah, like what do we do with these people that are on record saying? all of this crazy shit for like years and years and years. I do feel like saying Marjorie Taylor-Krean doesn't believe in QAnon, just in general, it's like when people, it's like if someone was like, Kanye West apologized to the Jews, okay?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Like he doesn't believe those sort of things anymore. Yeah. And I guess I'm a little confused how you got her renouncing or rejecting QAnon from that when she very specifically said, no, I haven't changed. Yeah, and she goes, I went over all that. Yeah, I went over it. Because like, yeah, she kind of like distanced herself from QAnon before. Like right before she got sworn in, she obviously, she did this weird little humiliation ritual.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And obviously, it seemed like Republican leadership where like, I was like, listen, you got to distance yourself from QAnon. This is embarrassing. So like she did like little Fox News interview where she said like, oh, yeah, I did believe that. But then I was like misled on the internet or whatever. She didn't specify. It's very vague terms. It's really no different than stuff she said in 2020 right before she got sworn in. So it's just bad reporting.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And the other thing that bothers me is that. Yep, here we go. Is that she still promotes Qaeda on beliefs this year. So, like, on September 24th, this is like less than two months ago, she tweeted the words Rachel Chandler. Now, that doesn't mean much to most people. I love friends. She's just like me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yes. But this is a Qadon dog whistle. She's tweeting out like Elaine Seinfeld. She's trying to get, yeah, she's trying to start some news. sort of like fan-fix like ship. Yeah. Rachel Chandler. Rachel and Chandler.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Rachel and Chandler. We love Rachel and we love Chandler, but Ross was always a goon. He was always soft, crying all the time. We would have loved to see Rachel and Chandler get together. Jennifer Aniston was so hot back then. And she reminded me of somebody that I dated in high school. I thought she was so pretty. But Chandler, a great guy, big Trump fan, very funny.
Starting point is 00:18:58 R.I.P. Crazy what happened to him. Crazy what happened to him is doctor. His doctor did something not so good I hear. Yeah, so Rachel Chandler, she's like an heiress and she was like photograph of a lot of celebrities and stuff. And she's she's like affiliated with the Chandler family who owned the LA Times for a while. And for lots of her career, she worked as like a casting director and like a modeling executive. And like Q and not had lots of conspiracies accused her of having some sort of connection with Epstein, which is just there's no evidence of it. Julie K. Brown, reporter with Miami Herald, like commences on it called allegations that she has connections with Epstein, just internet conspiracy shit. So there's just, it's really just
Starting point is 00:19:41 a smear. There's no one that's turned up any evidence. She has had anything to do with Epstein. But because Q mentioned Rachel Chandler, QAnon followers got it got their heads, that there's some sort of affiliation there. And again, a couple months ago, Marjorie Taylor Green promoted a Q&ON belief. She didn't say, I believe Q&ON. She has tweeted Rachel Chandler, which is something she obviously got from Q&ON. So it's like, this is what drives me crazy about like reporting. This claims that she's like she renounced Q&N. She has it. Very, very recently, she's affirmed, done a dog whistle that obviously shows that she still holds Q&N beliefs despite what kind of like wishy-washy way she handles this on the view.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Mm-hmm. Do you hear that corporate media? If you hadn't fucking solidlyed your relationship with Travis few early on by doxing, you know, hiring him and then doxing him against his will. You could have him on your side. And then your reporting would be a lot more accurate, a lot more accurate. Some people would say if you had hired Travis. But instead, he's on this podcast where we don't have to fact check him and we could just take him at his word. And, you know, so that's unfortunate for everybody else. Another interesting development with Representative Green is that she has broken from Trump a bit.
Starting point is 00:20:57 For example, she is unwilling to pretend that the prices on groceries and other items have come down during the second Trump administration. When the president says there's virtually no inflation and that grocery prices are going down, do you agree with him on that? No, I go to the grocery store myself. Grocery prices remain high. Energy prices are high. My electricity bills are higher here in Washington, D.C. at my apartment, and they're also higher at my house in Rome, Georgia, higher than they were a year ago. So affordability is a problem, and I'm a mom.
Starting point is 00:21:33 My kids are 22, 26, and 28. That's the generation I worry about the most, and they're having a very hard time. It's the world's first reverse, fetterman. I can't believe we're even seeing moves like that. Wow, we're so blessed. She used to be depressed, and then she, like, hit her head. And now she's like, we need to stop the genocide in Gaza. Although I have a feeling that, like, when she's like, when I take the Lexus SUV down to
Starting point is 00:22:01 Air One to get my groceries, the $28 strawberry is now $30. And we do see these price increases in our daily. She's like, the kind of tortillas that, like, they only keep in the refrigerated section, Bay's English muffins. These are expensive items, $7, $8 per, you know. It's like, well, yeah, of course. If you're going to Whole Foods, you're going to Air One, you know. My Whole Food, Swiss Grier, has shot up in price.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah, yeah. I like, a lot of people have talked to you. She has these takes that, like, I've seen people go, oh, my gosh. Is Marjor, Taylor Green, God, and woke? I'm kind of reluctant to give it to Green for reasons we'll see soon. But, you know, when Trump was asked about these comments from Green, Trump said that Marjorie Taylor Green has lost her way. I don't know what happened to Marjorie.
Starting point is 00:22:48 She's a nice woman, but I don't know what happens. She's lost her way, I think. But with all of that, I passed a great big, beautiful bill, which is the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country. So when somebody like Marjorie Taylor Green, who's now catering to the other side, I don't know what, you know, I guess she's got some kind of an act on,
Starting point is 00:23:05 but I'm surprised at her. But when somebody like Marjorie goes over and starts making statements like that, it shows she doesn't know. Yeah, I mean, that's just, he's branding. This is 2020 to Biden, right? It's like actually everything's fine. And we won the midterm, so actually nothing is going wrong.
Starting point is 00:23:24 It really is so frustrating how incompetent them leadership has been because it's like such an obviously opportune time that they could like take advantage of that in some way. Because if Trump is literally, like, Marjorie de la Greene, I think is like at the very least politically savvy here. Like she kind of understands. She can tell which way the wind is blowing on this. Trump is like lowest approval rating at any point in his presidency, I believe, like first and second term. She's like, well, I want to keep going. I don't want to be associated with this unpopularity.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, I think, yeah, she realized that you can bullshit people about a lot of things, but you cannot bullshit them about, like, how far your grocery budget stretches for the month. I think the Dems would absolutely welcome Marjorie Taylor Green with open arms if she, you know, if she fully denounced Trump and became a public example of, like, a rep exit, you know what I mean? Like a reverse, a reverse sort of thing. I think the Dems absolutely would embrace her, and I think that they should. You know, I encourage anybody who normalizes, like, changing your opinion publicly and going, I was wrong about this, actually.
Starting point is 00:24:25 And, like, I think that this is probably a better, at least not quite so evil sort of outlook on leadership. I don't know. I encourage that. What else are we going to do? I mean, they fucking allied with Dick Cheney, you know, make you rest in peace. Dick Cheney is much more evil than Roger Trailer Green. I think Dave Cheney is much responsible for way more deaths. I wonder what the over-under.
Starting point is 00:24:47 nasty comments if you did you posted some um dick cheney uh i memes i wonder if um if you would get like because people should be like angrier about dick cheney in some ways this man died like warm in his bed you know probably surrounded by you know surrounded by uh family members that's why it's not fun though because it's like he won he won you know like everyone's in neocon now yeah yeah i think that's a good point So Charlie Kirk is a much less fortunate endic, I think, than Dick Cheney. Much less fortunate, yes. Of course, yes, of course. Why can't things be regular?
Starting point is 00:25:28 Just for like a little bit, just for a little bit. It's been, because for us, like we, they started talking about Trump and all of this stuff in like 2015, maybe even like 2014 was when the sort of buzz really started going. And we've been held hostage ever since to like all this, all this. this news. For a decade. Yeah. So there is a question of like, what exactly caused this rift between Marjorie Taylor Green and Trump?
Starting point is 00:25:53 And it may be simply related to personal ambition because according to a fellow member of Congress, AOC, Representative Green is bitter because Trump shot down Green's ambitions to run for Senate. Here's some tea for you. MTG, people are like, oh, my God, she's saying all these things, like, what's gotten into her lately. Oh, like she's bucking against Trump. She's bucking against the administration. Marjorie Taylor Green wanted to run for Senate in Georgia. She wanted to run for Senate earlier this year in the state of Georgia. She wanted to be the Republican nominee for Senate. So she was
Starting point is 00:26:33 gearing up for that statewide race and Trump told her no. Trump said no. And the White House and Trump land shut down Marjorie Taylor Green's personal ambitions to run for Senate. And she has been on a revenge tour ever since. I do like the idea that she accidentally switched sides at like the right time for her political career in relation to Trump. Just purely like, I mean, it does make that Marjorie doesn't strike me as a particularly smart woman. She believes in Qadon. She has like a gift, a wonderful gift for failing up. And you meet these people throughout like.
Starting point is 00:27:11 like who are just fucking savants at like failing up through like no fault of their own and you watch as they sort of kind of accept like they begin to believe that there is kind of some like sort of like divine plan for them and and then they keep manifesting and they keep winning and you're like wow I can't believe this person who I thought was an absolute idiot is like you know has has like achieved all their dreams and then some and it's like not enough obviously I think I think Marjorie Taylor Green, you know, we joked, like, very early on when she became a character on this podcast. We joked about how, you know, one day we might see her on a ticket. But I think she wants to see herself on a ticket one day. I think she has a future. I think we'll be seeing more of Marjorie for the next little while. Especially, like, she isn't like, is it like an R plus 40 or something? She's a Twitter district.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Like, she's there for a while. Yeah. I mean, this is why I think it's a little frustrating. When we talk about Marjorie Taylor's opinions, like, oh, is she? following where the political winds are shifting? Is she gone woke? Why is she saying these things? As if they're related to calculated political strategy,
Starting point is 00:28:21 as if there might be related to any sort of like shifting principles, or even kind of like, you know, shrewdness. But no, they may be simply related to bitterness over thwarted political ambition. And in fact, if she was sort of like given the green light to run for Senate, she'd be out there saying, oh yeah, grocery prices are rock bottom. just as President Trump says. Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Or, you know, potentially maybe some, some Dem talking points if that, if it seems like that might be more advantageous. All right. Let's talk about the other major Q&O promoter in government that is FBI director, Cash Patel. So he's been struggling with a scandal related to private jet use. There's been lots of questions throughout, it hasn't even been a full year yet. But, like, through this first year, there's lots of questions about, like, how Patel has been using these government resources for pleasure. For example, earlier this year, a Patel was photographed with Mel Gibson at a UFC event.
Starting point is 00:29:21 You know, it's like, you could argue because Mel Gibson is part of, like, one of his, one of the White House Hollywood ambassadors. And, you know, it's like, looks, it seems kind of questionable about, like, why exactly this guy is living it up on the government's dime, it seems like. I can't imagine what these two talked about together. I'm looking at the picture right now. Cash looks so happy. Mel's looking great, honestly, for him, for him. He's looking good. But can you imagine, like, what kind of alcohol was, like, floating in the air as he, like, whispered closely, you know, to Cash's ear. Like, just went beyond. Yeah. And, well, and you know, the UFC buried under the, at the arena here, they talk a lot about it, a locker rooms, but it's, but what it really is, there is a highly advanced, uh, cry your chimpers down on a bit of me like can you just imagine like all of the thing like he it would be the meme of the guy at the of the guy at the uh sports game like you know whispering to his you know non-interested girlfriend no it'd be like you talk to like you know this is really great this is the only guy really entertainment that has been
Starting point is 00:30:27 captured by them yet so yeah you know what I think though actually if I really am imagining this it's probably something like way more mundane like he's like guy on my guy on my crew He's like, guy on my crew, Jack TiVo, guy on my crew, Jack Tevo. He's serving a life sentence for murdering his wife and daughter. Do you think there's anything you can do? He got a real, but he did the murder, but she was a real cunt. Like, is there anything you can do? Like, he probably is just trying to get, like, various, like, criminal friends of his, like, you know, lesser sentences or something like that.
Starting point is 00:31:02 They're shredding powder together, right? I mean, yeah, they got that. Yeah, that feels like a... The conversation's going on in that, yeah. Oh, you think they're going sledding? I think they, I feel like they probably are. Cash feels like a guy who would do that as the FBI director. Honestly, I'm going to take a lot of heat for this.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I love him as the FBI director. I think there's nothing. It kind of makes me feel like a little bit safer that somebody's so incompetent who's like way more interested in going to like the fight with Mel Gibson, like, ringside and being like, I don't really want to go to the office. Like, can I do the ever? FBI from home makes me kind of be like, well, like, that must put that like, you know, entity in some kind of disarray.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And anything that makes them less effective, I don't know, I feel like is maybe better, maybe for the best. It's true. It's virtually impossible for him to be any more corrupt than, say, Hoover. So I was like, maybe this is a blessing. One of the odds that he's fucked up some of the court stuff for the Tyler Robertson trial by just, like, publicly posting evidence before the trial started, where he's like, yeah, we got his DNA on the gun.
Starting point is 00:32:08 We have extra of Y. It's just he doesn't, I mean, yeah, I do agree. If the FBI that's not functioning properly, because of an incompetent leader is great. Because he doesn't really want to be there. Like, look at him in this picture with Mel Gibson. Look at him in this picture with, I believe, a Kardashian that Travis, I think you're, this is, this is his girlfriend. It's a whole, it's a much, it's much funnier than that.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Oh, yeah. But we're going to get into it. But he looks so. happy and so not interested in running the FBI. This is where he wants to be. I mean, yeah, I mean, he lives in Vegas. He seems like a real estate, let's say. Like, he likes the worldly pleasures.
Starting point is 00:32:48 He has definitely gotten high. Yeah. He has definitely gotten high and gone to that white castle on the strip. 100% he's come home with some kind of crave case. So, yeah, this recent controversy happened because he reportedly used. a $60 million jet owned by the FBI to travel to State College, Pennsylvania, where his girlfriend, the 20-something country singer Alexis Wilkins, performed the Star-Spangled Banner at a wrestling event
Starting point is 00:33:17 that took place at Penn State University. My favorite detail about her is I believe she's like Swiss. Like she's European immigrant who decided to become like a Texas-style country singer. Yeah. Talk about assimilation. I just love the idea. of like being born in like Switzerland and like that's your calling I think it's incredible and you know I want to be I want to be boyfriend if do you think they they got together after or before like did he use his clout as like I'm FBI director by the way before you know I believe they got together before he became FBI director but boy she saw the potential she saw the potential she believed in him he had some kind of like probably special security clearance like he definitely would be the kind of guy in the in the movies who's like like, hey, you want to know where Jimmy Hoff is buried?
Starting point is 00:34:05 You know, like one of those, like that kind of FBI director, which I got to say, I know I'm going to take heat on this, but I love it. I love actually that he wasted $60 million of the FBI's money to fly to like a college event so that he could watch his Swiss girlfriend be like, and I'm a, I'm dating the director of the FBI, you know, whatever her, I don't know what her country music sounds like. It's not very good. It's quite bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 This particular performance was just the star spangled banner right before like a pro wrestling kind of performance. But yeah, interesting, yeah, relationship. Cash looks like he's wearing like the FBI, like cross a bathing ape. Like he looks like he's like sort of like launch, like maybe soft launching like some stylish like FBI drip. And this looks like something that would cost like maybe 10,000 VC and NBA 2K. So this is a particularly interesting because Patel has been a vocal critic of government officials using official planes for personal business.
Starting point is 00:35:09 In a 23 episode of his podcast, Cash's Corner, Patel said that he wanted to quote, ground Chris Ray, the previous FBI director, his private jet travel that he pays for with taxpayer dollars to hop around the country. And now he's doing this himself. So he's like he will stop, you know, the use of government jets for private use right when he like releases. the Epstein files on day one. It's just something he said. Like all these guys, they didn't really think they'd win. So they didn't really think that it was like,
Starting point is 00:35:37 well, I make sure when I say things, I can be consistent once I actually get in. They didn't plan this far? Yeah. And this one, it's like there's less of an excuse. Like Trump won.
Starting point is 00:35:48 It's like, yeah, you shouldn't have thought you won. You would win. Like no one, no rational, like it's Bill Mitchell. That's the guy who thought
Starting point is 00:35:54 that Trump was going to win and the polls were cucked. Like every rational person was like, well, no, this isn't going anywhere. This one, you might have,
Starting point is 00:36:00 you should have maybe thought a bit more about the possibility that, especially in this context, that Joe Biden wouldn't get reelected. Yeah. I wonder what happened a bit. I wonder what Bill Mitchell's up to. That's a name I haven't thought about in a while, Liv. Yeah, I know. Because I guess he isn't banned.
Starting point is 00:36:14 He must be posting on Twitter again. I'm sure he is. I have a feeling like, I also wouldn't be surprised if he's like been like, I don't know, like kind of like absorbed by his internet, like sucked into his computer, like stay tuned or something like that. And he's like having some kind of like lawnmower man experience. like inside of the internet, like becoming like some kind of like all powerful digital being.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I think he was, wasn't he a DeSantis guy? For a while, yeah. I think so, yeah. No, he's, he's like, I'm looking at his engagement and it's, it's like wash. It's like 100 likes. This one's got 20. There's got 30, eight likes. Yeah, he's washed.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Those are like Rakitansky numbers he's putting up. It's like he was too early, I think. Like, we're living in Bill Mitchell's world now and like he has nothing to show for it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that fucking sucks. Can you imagine? It's like DJ Kempstar, if you anyone know of that. He's like insane evil drama farmer.
Starting point is 00:37:07 He wanted Trump to run for president in 2014. Like, he understood the moment in like a profound way and he's got nothing to show for it. Wow. Actually, a new reporting on this that just broke in the last hour from a Wall Street Journal. What? So, yeah, after flying an FBI jet, after flying this FBI jet to this wrestling match, to see his girlfriend sing then he flew her back to her home in nashville and then after this this is that uh w s j is just now reporting patel took the jet to a texas hunting resort called the boondoggle ranch
Starting point is 00:37:42 he is hopping from uh yeah from pennsylvania to tennessee to texas on the government's dime during a shutdown yeah wow no worries babe we can take the jet we can take the fbi jet oh my god yeah i mean yeah of course that's guys like yeah to fbi jet maybe we get up there i'll tell you who JFK. We'll see. Oh, my God. This guy is like... One of the Epstein Files? He's fantasizing and going back and like going back and looking at 11-year-old cash like square in the eyes and being like, dude, you have no fucking idea what we're about to do together. He's like, you're going to be flying hot Swiss country singers back home on your FBI jet. Why? You might ask, because you're the director
Starting point is 00:38:27 of the FBI. The kid would be. like um come on man like it's just you know yeah the other funny part of the story is that patel got apparently really mad inside inside the FBI after this became known which is like the flight path of the plane of like all planes is public information and it's doubly so when it's a government owned plane but for some strange reason Patel seemed to blame an FBI employee for the fact that this was released one 27 year veteran of the FBI named Stephen Palmer, which led to his firing over the issue. So here is the reporting on this from Bloomberg Law. The FBI forced out a senior official overseeing aviation shortly after
Starting point is 00:39:10 director Cash Patel grew outraged about revelations of his publicly available jet logs, indicating he'd flown to see his musician girlfriend perform, said three people familiar with the situation. Stephen Palmer, a 27-year veteran of the FBI, became the third head of the Critical Incident Response Group, which includes FBI pilots, to be fired or removed in Patel's short regime, adding to a year filled with retributive terminations. Patel was angered this week by social media posts and news stories calling attention to his use of an FBI jet that arrived in State College, Pennsylvania, where his girlfriend, country music artist Alexis Wilkins, sang the national anthem at a wrestling match, said the individuals who spoke anonymously out
Starting point is 00:39:49 of fear of retaliation. So she's saying the national anthem at a college wrestling match? No, no, this was a wrestling event that was actually originally founded by the late Hulk Hogan. So it's like, it's a, yeah, the spectacle kind of pro wrestling. Got it, got it, got it. Palmer was told he needed to immediately resign or be fired, which the individual said was at least partially connected to Patel's fury over the negative media cycle on his personal travel. Palmer's position included supervising the FBI's aviation units, but Patel's flight schedule was readily traceable through online tracking services, and he reposted photos of himself with Wilkins at the event. on his personal ex account.
Starting point is 00:40:25 The people familiar with the matter said they were baffled as to why Patel might have blamed Palmer for the travel details. So this is, I mean, I am so, it's so fucking embarrassing be ruled by these fucking morons. This guy doesn't even know, he's the FBI director,
Starting point is 00:40:41 he doesn't know that the flight path of like all flights in American airspace is publicly trackable. He wasn't aware that anyone could find this out if they just have, you know, if they go into the right website or have the right equipment, I mean, Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's so much, it's so much more embarrassing than, like, traditional, like, evil authoritarian American politicians. So, you know, like, the classic, like, there will be blood, like, oil barren type guy.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Like, it's Cash Patel and fucking Mark Zuckerberg. That's the, like, economic political domination matrix of American society. Now, speaking of Alexis Wilkins, Patel's girlfriend, she has actually launched three federal defamation suits against people who, in her telling, spread a false massod honeypot slash Israeli spy narrative about her online. You know, she is, you know, she's an attractive young woman. There's a, you know, there's a joke in technology and government is that if your girlfriend's a 10, she's an asset.
Starting point is 00:41:39 So some people like took this a little too literally. And they started saying that she is some sort of massad spy who's entrapping Cash Patel. I do think, yeah, that is just everyone is human on now. Everyone does conspiracies. the left and the right. It's just, that's all people have, I guess. But I will say, if you don't want people thinking you're an Israeli spy, I don't think suing people about them accusing you of being an Israeli spy is the move. Well, and like, I don't think like Israel would need a spy to get this information. I think that they could probably like write cash and email and be like, hey,
Starting point is 00:42:12 what do you got on this? And he'd be like, let me get back to you. You know, I think they could probably just ask him. And he's like, I didn't know. I wasn't supposed to tell them that. Just like, I didn't know I wasn't supposed to use the company jet to go to the wrestling show in Pennsylvania. In the complaint, she says that she's American-born, Christian has never been to Israel and has no ties to any intelligence service, which is immediately not true. You're dating the FBI director. You're on this plane. You're on the FBI trade. That's a tie to an intelligence service. She also argues that the spy claim is defamatory per se because it accuses her of serious crimes like espionage. in treason and harms her career in reputation. She is seeking $5 million in each case in a jury trial.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Nice. This career, by the way, like 10,000 monthly streams on Spotify. Okay, okay. It's like this, if anything, this attention is probably good for your career. This is very good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're not quite at the stage where like, yeah, smear's online actually hurt you.
Starting point is 00:43:14 These lawsuits are against the conservative influencers, Kyle Serafin and Elijah D. Schaefer, and also the former political candidate, Sam Parker. So among the posts listed in the complaint is one of which Parker asked, why is a 24-year-old devout Christian hooking up with an Hindu Indian, old enough to be your dad at a Christian nationalist conference? Weird. The complaint said another post reaffirmed his intention on February 28, 2025, when he suggested Ms. Wilkins presumed Israeli status is why the Epstein files have not yet been publicly released. Again, this is like, I think we can look to Trump to understand why the Epstein files has not been publicly released.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah, guys. I don't know. It's funny when it's like you have an analysis that's like, it's very easy for it to be pretty correct about like, yeah, Trump is evil and connected to Israel. And Israel is bad and shouldn't have any influence. But like they decided to make the stupidest fucking connections. I guess because the conspiracy theory is just never enough. It's never enough to like get the actual things going on with the Epstein. Again. That's where I'm with Epstein, which, like, I remember explaining Epstein stuff to my friend in, like, 2018. And I was like, but this is, like, real, actually. Like, I know that this sounds ridiculous. And it's like, yeah, he was caught with, like, a minor who's naked and overdosing. And then he got, like, a six months sentence. I know that sounds weird, but it's actually what happened. But, like, that's not enough for them.
Starting point is 00:44:34 It has to be like, yeah, no, the only possible reason why Cash Patel, who is Hindu as well, by the way, I don't know why that's relevant. There's no way that he could be having sex with a woman in her 20s, unless it was literally is real. There's no way that like he would use his like position and like company perks to try to like score a babe who
Starting point is 00:44:55 you know his friends are like she's out of your league bro. Yeah like do you think Cash Bertel is dating a woman his age like that surprises you that he's dating a 24 year old? It doesn't surprise me. Yeah not at all. He's like a youngish like single FBI director with like a little bit of swag
Starting point is 00:45:12 you know a little bit of podcast swag you know like he's Just, of course, like, of course. I feel like we, you know, we all knew, like, somebody like Cash Patel in high school. Like, I don't know, it makes very much sense that he's rolling the way he is. And like I said, two other times before on this episode, I'm a fan. So, like, moving on to progress in the January 6th investigation. So an ongoing mystery is who exactly planted pipe bombs near the DNC and the RNC offices in Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:45:44 on January 5th, 2021, just the night before January 6 happened. Now, what was the deal with? What was, I don't know the exact specifics of this, but they found pipe bombs late, like a day later, or did they find them on Jan 6 and thwart an attack? They were discovered on Jan 6, and yeah, they were diffused. There might have been a timer incident. I don't think they released all the details about the bombs because they didn't want to give so much away.
Starting point is 00:46:11 But, yeah, they fortunately did not go off. But some mysterious person wearing a hoodie planted a couple pipe bombs. All right. So the FBI has offered a half a million dollar reward for identifying the person who did this. Well, the right wing outlet, the Blaze, recently made a very exciting announcement that through a computer-assisted forensic analysis, they say they have identified a suspect. A computer-assisted, I feel like I know where this is going. Yeah, did they just like plug a picture into AI? And they were like, chat GPT, identify this woman.
Starting point is 00:46:48 They shockingly said that the suspect is a former Capitol police officer, which I won't name for reasons which will be obvious. So right before the story was published, Blaze Media CEO Glenn Beck really hyped it up. There is a breaking news story that hopefully is coming out tomorrow. You'll understand once you hear the story. this is one of the biggest stories I think it is the biggest scandal of my lifetime maybe in the last hundred years it is monstrous what Steve Baker has is going to report on and we're going to give you some a little bit of background I can tell you this there is a major
Starting point is 00:47:32 development in the January 6 pipe bomber investigation Blaze News has the exclusive because it is Steve's reporting that has brought this to attention, and unfortunately, it leads, its lead suspect is at the highest levels of government. So lots of things there. First of all, I would not call a former Capitol police officer someone at the highest level of government. It goes right to a bit above the middle, guys. It goes right to the person who has like the highest power amongst.
Starting point is 00:48:11 people who have no power at all. It's like, that's right. We're talking about people who shoe someone if they loiter are a little too close to the capital. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of showmanship going on here. I haven't seen Glenn Beck in a while. He's looking more and more like Guy Fury. Yeah, I see that.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I love the country music, too. Like, America is like a fake country to me entirely. And the fact that that, like, country music is like that ingrained in right-wing media. I know, I understand Alberta does exist. So it is in Canada, too, but it just, it doesn't seem real to me. It seems like a parody. Like, if we're not, like, part of the, like, nine to five rat race, like, we're two varying levels of failure or success.
Starting point is 00:48:52 We're all sitting, like, two to three feet away from, like, a laptop that's facing us with, like, a little green light and a camera that's recording. Like, we're all just, like, a fake news background away from just, like, everybody is, like, trying to be a newscaster of some kind or some kind of presentation. Like, everybody is sort of the arbiter of their own public access channel. A newscaster for people when they are, like, bored and they want to do chores, basically. Yeah, for the people, by the people. So, yeah, so the reporting was published.
Starting point is 00:49:27 It named a woman, a former Capitol Police officer, as the person who allegedly did this. There's no good evidence, but this is what they said. And then the claim was amplified by, like, a bunch of people, like, members of Congress, representatives of Barry Loudermilk, Anna Polina Luna, Thomas Massey, like lots of people without really looking too deeply into the reporting, just claimed it was credible. And so what is this evidence? So apparently they use what they called gate analysis, as G-A-I-T, as in walking, gate analysis. Oh, this is something that all of the transvestigators use where they're like, clearly this, like,
Starting point is 00:50:02 cisgender man has like a female gate. And if you draw, you know, they're walking in a way that's identifiably. So they're just, they're doing that, but for personal identity, I guess. Some people, before, there was this wild claim that was like Marjorie Taylor Green. For some reason, they think the pipe bomber has a female gate. I don't know what the hell they're getting this from. Oh, yeah, so they are breaking it like that. We're talking about gate?
Starting point is 00:50:23 What? Yeah. So, yeah, they examined footage of the name suspect playing soccer and compared it to how the pipe bomber walked, according to the video we have. And from this, they claimed it was the same person. This is like, again, just real bullshit. It's pseudoscience nonsense. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:50:40 When God creates the NPC characters in our GTA, whatever it is, he only, there's only so many, like, walk animations that you can have. Like, I don't think it's ever, ever going to be a thing where you'll be able to videotape somebody walking and they'll be like, scan the database, like, do, do, do, do, do, live Agar. You know what I mean? Like, that's just, it's a completely, even if you were writing like a science fiction movie and you're like okay and like it's like minority report too and they're like okay this time around the police have a scanner and it can sort of like videotape somebody's walk and that walk allows you to identify you know anybody potentially in like the civilian pool like you as the writers of the movie be like I don't know can we come up with something better than that like it doesn't even make sense as like a fictional story however the story seemed to fall apart after the FBI issued a statement indicating that their investigation is on
Starting point is 00:51:36 going, which many took to mean that they're not buying this accusation. Yeah, just being like, for no reason at all, we're still looking for the person, by the way, in case any of you know anything, just reminder, just re-upping this, just bumping this. In fact, Glenn Beck himself seemed to, like, back away from the story. That was published on his own outlet, but attraction has not yet been published as of his recording. But this is what Beck said. So, Blaze News arranged for a forensic gate. analysis. This isn't guesswork. This is a scientific algorithm that compares the knee flexing,
Starting point is 00:52:13 the hip extension, the step length, the cadence, and variance. It's like a digital footprint of how a person moves through space. While the software returned a 94% match between the Bombers Walk and that of the walk of a former Capitol Police officer, who I'm not going to name here. And I'll tell you why I'm not going to name her here. When the analysts that were human, they looked at it, they put the match closer to 98%. Now let me stop here and tell you why I'm not telling you the name of this person, because a match is not guilt, comparison is not proof,
Starting point is 00:52:47 this person of interest is still a citizen whose life carries the same dignity and presumption of innocent as yours and mine, and I can't tell you what is true in this story yet. They used a scientific algorithm that if you type it funny, will give you like an apple pie recipe. I think they used an algorithm on Glenn Beck's voice to, just watching his like wave playback like as I could see it on my my own like recording software I'm like they have got this guy running through some kind of like AI I bet he's got a hamster
Starting point is 00:53:17 something in the background of his studio that's on one of those wheels that's like squeaking all the time and they have they have to like run him through like some kind of like crazy post processing to like you know make it sound like he's just in a regular news studio yeah I mean this is really fucking shocking it's like I'm surprised that even if they said oh 90s like 95, 96% so you're like wrong one and 20 times. Like, and you're, you're accusing a person of being a violent
Starting point is 00:53:44 terrorist. And then this, this accusation was amplified by members of Congress and lots of people with large followings. Like, if this really falls apart as much as it looks like is falling apart, I mean, this is a slam dunk libel lawsuit. I mean, I feel, like,
Starting point is 00:54:00 libel is like normally pretty hard to successfully sue for in the United States because, because of the First Amendment, but God, this is, this is really shocking. I mean, I don't know. It's so stupid. And it's so fucking slimy, too, to, like, use your listeners, like, you know, patriotism or believe that somebody is, you know, innocent until proven guilty to fucking, like, walk back
Starting point is 00:54:22 your bullshit fucking, you know what I mean? To be like, well, and look, this person, Dill does still have rights. Yeah, only since you found out that there's, like, a potential that you could get in trouble for, like, posting this. Do you care about, like, what their, you know, rights are? Now, before we were talking about Marjorie Taylor Green becoming wokeified in some unexpected ways, but on the whole, she still remains pretty loyal to President Trump, as well as J-Sixers who have since felt the long arm of the law for their decisions in the weeks and months following the 2020 election.
Starting point is 00:54:55 On Monday this week, Green tweeted, Thank you at POTUS for pardoning the 2020 alternate electors. They fought for election integrity and were punished harshly by a politically weaponized government. But please free Tina Peters, exclamation point, exclamation point. She's a gold star mom. Is that a term, gold star mom? Yes, yeah, yeah, her son. Yeah, a veteran son.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I see. It's when you've never not been a mom before. Right. No, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a chart of like how good you're doing as a mom. No, it refers to the fact that her son was a veteran who died. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:31 She's a gold star mom wrongly convicted in serving time in prison. She is a political hostage in America, exclamation point. Now, I'm sure many of you remember the somewhat sad and disturbing case of Tina Peters, the Mesa County Colorado Clerk, who was sentenced to nine years in prison for her role in breaching voting machines. This was she claimed in an effort to prove the fraud that President Trump and his lawyers were alleging took place across the country. Now, in case you don't remember what got Peters in so much trouble, I'm just going to read this quote as it appears in the Yahoo News article because it's so fun. on its own, and I quote,
Starting point is 00:56:06 prosecutors allege that Peter stole a county employee security badge to help a man associated with My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell gain access to the county's voter systems. What happened to Mike? He was like the day one like CEO for Trump because now all the big CEOs have like been the knee, but like he's a, I feel like he needs, he needs more like he should be able to be doing crime in the Trump administration if everyone else is making money.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I agree. I think we should give him a very important. position, much like Cash Patel. I think we should, in fact, maybe Cash Patel, he should replace Cash Patel as the head of the FBI. Yeah, if Cash has to step down, he's the second, he's the second slide, he's the batters up next.
Starting point is 00:56:47 A man associated with my pillow, CEO. If ever there was a sentence to further disconnect my brain from reality, that surely, surely was one. Tina Peters has maintained her innocence and patriotism, much to her
Starting point is 00:57:02 detriment. I don't know if you guys remember, We did an episode on this a while ago, but she severely pissed off the judge in her case and earned what Trump's current Justice Department believes was an unfair sentence. In fact, when I went to check in on Tina in the wake of pressure on Donald Trump to sling her a pardon, I unearthed a couple of interesting details that have taken place since we last talked about her case. In March of this year, Trump's Justice Department actually tried to get involved with the Peters case, essentially claiming that the judge was unnecessarily harsh on Tina because of her political beliefs. They also maintain that the judge unfairly denied her bail
Starting point is 00:57:36 while she continues her appeals process. In May on Truth Social, Trump himself gave her a shout-out, posting, Radica Left Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser ignores illegals committing violent crimes like rape and murder in his state and instead jailed Tina Peters, a 69-year-old gold star mother who worked to expose and document the Democrat election fraud. Tina is an innocent political prisoner being horribly and unjustly punished in the form of cruel and unusual punishment.
Starting point is 00:58:06 This is a communist persecution by the radical left Democrats to cover up their election crimes and misdeeds in 2020. The same Democrat Party that flies to El Salvador to try to free an MS-13 terrorist is cruelly imprisoning, perhaps for life, a grandmother whose brave and heroic son gave his life for America. Colorado must end this unjust incarceration of an innocent American. I am hereby directing the Department of Justice
Starting point is 00:58:34 to take all necessary action to help secure the release of this hostage being held in Colorado prison by the Democrats for political reasons. Free Tina Peters now. Surprise they took him this long. It's crazy. That's a lot of words. That's a lot of words for Tina.
Starting point is 00:58:51 It's more than Mamdani. Right? We have to do Mamdani. He was just like... Yeah, sure is. And ellipsies. Now, some might argue that the whole point is moot anyways, since Tina was convicted for state crimes as opposed to federal ones. So even if Trump did pardon her, it would not get her out of serving her nine-year prison sentence.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I didn't know that. So it's only federal crimes the president has authority over. I see. So she's fucked actually, damn for Tina. Yeah, because as we'll see the, yeah, yeah, there is no intention from the Colorado state officials to overturn her to the feds or to reduce her sentence. or anything. Now, Tina herself appears to have latched onto a somewhat bizarre theory that because she will be serving as a witness in an upcoming federal probe looking into 2020 voter fraud,
Starting point is 00:59:45 that she is therefore deserving of federal protection, or in this case, you know, living the good life in a cushy Fed lockup instead of the medium security women's facility in Pueblo, Colorado, where she is now. So I think she's, I think the conditions are probably, I think it most likely sucks. So gotcha. Right. So she's looking for that Galane Maxwell deal. She is looking for that sweet deal.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Honestly, my opinion, free her. She's going to steal another election? Like, probably not. I don't think so. Probably not, yeah. I don't think she's a threat to society. So her lawyers are also using this habeas petition to advertise new depositions they allegedly took over the summer from anonymous Venezuelan informants,
Starting point is 01:00:26 who they claim provide evidence that Dominion and Smartmatic are, in fact, able to rig elections. So, like, they're still doing the same thing. Like, so actually, Liv, she hasn't learned. Her lawyers are literally like, no, no, no, we've got new depositions. And that means there's going to be new pros, which means she's going to need to be in witness protection. So, like, you got to move into the cushy fed joint where she can make the tomato stew. So despite all of this, at a recent hearing, federal magistrate Judge Scott Varholic ruled that the depositions would not be allowed to be used in Peter's case.
Starting point is 01:00:58 And furthermore, he hadn't heard anything from the Justice Department regarding a transfer request. Even if it comes, it's up to the state of Colorado. And Governor Jared Polis and Attorney General Phil Weiser are completely in agreement. I believe the quote was synced up that Peters will serve her time. So it really doesn't look good for her at all. It's interesting that Trump is bothering with this. I mean, I guess the lesson there is that Trump is, like, loyal to people who are willing to break the law for him. as a sign of like if you do this and you get caught like if I have anything to say about it I will like get you off and in this case it costs him nothing because he could be like I hear by pardon Dana Peter's wonderful woman and it'll mean nothing and then he'll be like they're keeping her like they're not listening to my pardon yeah yeah you know it's like it's really interesting that uh he's like by sticking to this theory and claiming that she's been wrongfully convicted she's also seems to be sinking in the opportunity for
Starting point is 01:01:57 early release or parole. They usually look for someone who's like acknowledged that they've done wrong and repentant. She's so in on this. She's like guaranteeing that she's going to serve her full sentence. Free her. That's final message. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Final. Yeah. Final thoughts, Travis. After this wonderful, this wonderful news roundup. No, let's let's have Tina Peters and Cash Patel switch positions. And have Marjorie Taylor Green and Ghane Maxwell switch positions. Let's put Galane Maxwell in Congress. Let's see what she does.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I mean, it's not worse than the president, you know, like, whatever. Yeah, what the fuck, exactly, what the fuck is like Galane Maxwell going to do in Congress? Protect pedophiles or protect the Epstein files? They're already doing that. Look, folks, if we've learned one thing here at the QAA podcast, is that anybody can be in any position of government. You don't have to have one smart brain in your body to be at the highest level of powers in the richest country in the world. I hope everybody has a wonderful rest of your night, sleeping in your pitiful, your pitiful beds. Hopefully, you know, you're, you know, not in twin beds, you know, maybe at least you got a full size.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Hopefully not a futon, you know, it's comfortable, you know, but, you know, while the kings and queens, you know, asleep on a pile of mattresses in their castles. Enjoy your non-congrestrial futons, everyone. Yeah, enjoy having to drive like three hours to the college upstate to see your girlfriend play. You have a graduate degree, your PhD, it doesn't matter. That's not who gets to run things in this country. Mm-mm, mm-mm. I didn't even know the FBI had a private jet.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I guess it makes sense if you think about it. Why not? If Taylor Swift's got one. I think Cash Patel is probably, definitely. I wonder if he's the first FBI director to get on it. We can't. We can't. Obviously, we cut that out, of course.
Starting point is 01:03:52 That's a Julian joke. I'll leave the Julian jokes to Julie. Brilliant. Thanks for listening to another episode of the QAA podcast. You can go to patreon.com slash QAA and subscribe for $5 a month to get a whole second episode every single week, plus access to our entire archive of premium episodes. You can also see Liv Egar on Twitch. Liv. Yeah, I stream Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday at noon, approximately Pacific time at Twitch.tv slash Live Agar. Nice. Go check it out. How's that been going? It's good. Yeah. We're doing well. Especially when Hassan isn't streaming. Those are those Sundays. I stream a lot more because usually, the Tuesday is break day. There's a lot of overlap in the audience. But it's been fun.
Starting point is 01:04:38 In the vacuum of Hassan, live stands alone. Exactly. Exactly. I stand above the rest. Yeah. It's basically just me rambling for six hours straight, but just like whatever. Damn, that's crazy. How do you ramble for six hours straight? You know, I had a panic attack during a live show. I can't remember. I think maybe in Colorado. Just talking for like 30 minutes was enough to make me run out of air and panic. I think you get used to it because like a live show is different because you can see everyone. But for me it's just a chat and it's just like a viewer amount. And it's much easier to comprehend like a thousand people listening to you theoretically on the internet is like way less difficult. And you do have a chat so you can kind of riff off of them. And I think you just get used to it eventually.
Starting point is 01:05:19 It's like podcasting. You just get, you just get used to talking. And you now have overcome the now that you've like defeated, you'd be. becoming the main character on Twitter for a day, you know, you're not handling a Twitch check. Because that was always my thing. And when we were doing streaming during the pandemic, it's like, everybody in the Twitch chat would be like,
Starting point is 01:05:37 this is awesome, man, so funny. Love you guys. Yada, yada. And then there'd be one guy that's like, guys fucking suck. It's like, Happy Gilmore, the guy that's like jackass. You know, there's like one person there who's like like a troll. And like, I would just like obsess about it.
Starting point is 01:05:53 I think the difference is that like on Twitch, It's not like Twitter. You, like, have control over the discussion and what everyone is saying. It's like your little petty fiefdom. So you can exile. You can exile anybody who's not acting right. Yeah, you can exile you for 10 years, you know. On Twitter, like, people coach what you use, like, you can do about it.
Starting point is 01:06:10 So it's very different, especially at a lower level if it's not like one of the massive, you know, has on 20,000 viewer chats. Right. Well, go watch Live on Twitch and don't be a, don't be an adversary. Don't be. Don't serve. Don't get yourself a 10. year ban. Just, just, you know, participate healthfully. We've also got a website that's
Starting point is 01:06:31 QAApodcast.com. Listeners, until next week, may the Deep Dish bless you and keep you. We have auto-keyed content based on your preferences. Remembering your oath to tell the truth, did you ever tell Donald Trump his name is in I have never spoken to President Trump about the Epstein files. Did you ever tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files? The Attorney General and I have had numerous discussions about the entirety of the Epstein files and the reviews conducted by our team. Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files? And we have released where President Trump's name is in the attorney's file.
Starting point is 01:07:13 It's a simple question. Did you tell the Attorney General that the President's name is in the Epstein During many conversations that the Attorney General and I have had on the matter of Epstein, we have reviewed. have reviewed. The question is simple. Who in the... Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files? Yes or no?
Starting point is 01:07:32 Why don't you try spelling it out? Yes or no? Use the alphabet. Yes or no? No? A, B, C. Do you don't want to do it? It sounds like you don't want to tell us.
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