QAA Podcast - Proleterian Literature & the Red Dragons with Devin O'Shea (E280)

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

A paranoid, red scare conspiracy theory about a Japanese ultra-nationalist gang aiming to unite the African American population and overthrow the U.S. government. A flourishing proleterian literature ...scene driven to madness by the FBI. This strange story is brought to us by journalist and writer Devin Thomas O'Shea and set in Saint Louis, Missouri in the 1930's. Subscribe for $5 a month to get an extra episode of QAA every week + access to podcast mini-series like Manclan, Trickle Down, Perverts and The Spectral Voyager: https://www.patreon.com/QAA Devin O'Shea: https://x.com/devintoshea / https://linktr.ee/devintoshea Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (http://instagram.com/theyylivve / https://sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (https://pedrocorrea.com) http://qaapodcast.com QAA was formerly known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 M. KU. Oh, Oh, Oh. Oh. If you're hearing this, well done. You found a way to connect to the Internet.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Welcome to the QAA podcast, Episode 280, Proletarian Lit, and the Black Dragons. As always, we are your host, Jake Rockatansky, Devin O'Shea, Julian Fields, and Travis Vue. Hello, sweet, dear, wonderful listeners. This week, we've got a very special treat for you. One of my absolute favorite guest writers on the podcast, the St. Louis legend himself, Devin O'Shea. The crowd is going wild. The crowd is going wild.
Starting point is 00:01:06 The St. Louis crowd is going wild. I'm seeing some handkerchiefs with blood on them. There's a lot of gunshots. Devin is being carried up onto the gallows. We don't know what's going to happen next, folks. How are you doing, man? I'm doing great. How are you boys doing today?
Starting point is 00:01:20 Not too shabby. Pretty good. Ready to jump into our episode this week, which touches ultimately on a conspiracy theory about a supposed Japanese ultra-nationalist gang called the Black Dragons, who, it was said, were aiming to unite the African-American population and overthrow the American government, which, if you're a listener from a certain part of Virginia
Starting point is 00:01:39 or in, like, a field office of some sort, we want to be clear that we totally oppose and sounds very not cool. Set in the 1930s, this story involves working-class writers, a deranged FBI, and good old American Red Scare Paranoia. So get in the breadline because we're serving QAA soup. Devin, take it away, baby. Thank you so much, Julian. Jack Conroy and H.H. Lewis were two Missouri guys born into a cast of disposable people
Starting point is 00:02:10 who were bred to toil in the dirt all their lives. And for most of history, that was the story. Then industrialization happened, and now dirt farmers could move to the city and die mangled in factory years instead of work to death in the soil. And since Jude the Obscure, novels have been telling the story. of young men as travelers in this modernizing transition to mature meant to go from provincialism to urbanity, from the ignorance and innocence of nature and planted fields to the cold knowing of the city. That's exactly the kind of shit that gets you in trouble. But it's what convinced young H.H. Lewis,
Starting point is 00:02:43 a farmer's son with poetic ambition to travel down the Mississippi River to New Orleans. And from there, he caught the Union Pacific to Los Angeles in the 1920s, where Lewis ended up where all artistic midwestern teenagers end up, destitute on Skid Row. Of living in an L.A. flop house, Lewis wrote, Your breath warmed somebody's neck and somebody's breath warmed yours. I had to pry myself from between two side sleepers packed against me. Stiff, numb, almost paralyzed by the damp coldness and the bare floor. I then had to pound myself and stretch like a dope fiend before being able to stand. Julian always has to pound himself when he's waking up. I do like to pound myself. Stretch like a dope fiend. I love that. That's when you've been around too many dope fiends
Starting point is 00:03:26 where you're like, you know, stretching what the dope fiends do. Exactly. Lewis woke one morning in the flop house and saw something that changed his life forever. A man he'd been sleeping near had drank too much canned heat or denatured alcohol and the guy passed away on the floor at Lewis's feet in front of him. Our novice poet described the man's last sound as a gurgling and flemy, ah, Boys, could you give me your best gurgling and Flemmy ah? That's very good. Oh, wow. Really prolonged.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Jake's going too far with it, definitely ruining the podcast. Everybody's just pulling their little headphones out. Yeah, we guarantee you we repulse you at least one time during each podcast episode. What? People don't like mucus bubbling? Come on. Come on. Harold Hardwell, Lewis, was nicknamed a bug by his schoolmates in Cape Girardo, Missouri,
Starting point is 00:04:26 which is an area of my state known as the boot heel. The boot heel is that little Missouri square sunk into the top right corner of Arkansas near the Mississippi River, and this area's soil was known as gumbo because of the silty and sticky texture. Lewis left the gumbo because he wanted to become a writer and see the world, and the trains had made that suddenly possible. It's a history dork thing to harp on. but railways are insanely, insanely important to understanding the psychology of the turn of the century.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Trains multiplied the area the average human could traverse in one lifetime by a factor of a hundred, and that'll come up again, I swear. From Skid Row, Lewis returned to Missouri, broke and traumatized. He was convinced that the wealthy would never do anything to alleviate the suffering of the poor people he saw massing in the cities. And so H.H. Lewis became a communist poet and wondered in verse. Oh, how can I struggle and win through the strife Looking up a mule's Pratt all my life
Starting point is 00:05:22 What's a Pratt? I think that's an asshole It's a butt? Chris Pratt That's what Chris Pratt is named after That's awesome that if you go back in history long enough That guy's name is just Chris asshole That's part of a poem called
Starting point is 00:05:38 Poof, no chance to be president I love this guy I think that's the title of Rachel Maddow's segment tonight The Road to Utterly became Lewis's
Starting point is 00:05:52 most famous work which was a long poem about a utopian community Utterly is the terminus for all the underground currents in American socialism as they finally materialize in a place
Starting point is 00:06:03 course that blindly forward wends while another hope in pens through the worst to be trending as a river trends even with the backward bends towards the sea till the profit system
Starting point is 00:06:15 ends. That's the road to utterly. This is a cautionary tale for all the communist poets out there. Listen up, junkie. Lewis died penniless in a shack in a field, completely out of his mind with paranoia, and cut off from every friend he ever had. He was driven from his livelihood and sanity by the FBI at the very beginning of the Cold War. Many in the American proletarian literary movement suffered similar fates, and there's a rich vein of history around this sort of artistic movement that is yet to be fully. recovered and could prove useful for that poem, novel, or whatever you've been working on.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah, if you want to be hounded by the FBI, listen to Devin over here. You know, you too could be destitute. This is a, yeah, easy step by step, here's how to get on a really bad list procedural. Although I suppose this generation would have to do proletarian TikToks. That's right. There's going to be a dance involved. I have a feeling that one of the hosts from this podcast will most likely end up dying penniless in a shack in a field. somewhere. I don't know which one, but odds are one of us, you know, will perish that way. Why would you say that about Travis? It's just, it's not fair. No, Travis would thrive penniless in a shack in a field. No, that's where his life begins.
Starting point is 00:07:30 No, I'm talking about me here, Julia. Yeah, Travis, like, on his spare time is seeking that shack. Yeah, you would go to visit Travis out in that penniless shack in the middle of nowhere, and he would have a full line of crops already growing. He would have made a rain catcher. He would have reinforced the walls. That's right. Yeah, he would have his little fallout shack built, and he'd have mute fruit growing
Starting point is 00:07:58 and all that. He'd have power armor also. Proletarian literature. It's not talked about in high school English class that much. The American proletarian literary movement was an aesthetic approach that became immensely popular and was systematically forgotten. This movement began in the mid-20s and mostly ended by 1940. It's a big part of why novels and American literature in capital letters are the way they are today.
Starting point is 00:08:25 The central concern of proletarian writers or the lives of working-class people, as opposed to, say, Victorian novels, which concerned the lives of the bourgeois and hardly paid attention to poor people at all. That's in general. Can you guys think of any other, like, classic literature that's about poor people? Um, I'd say the grapes of wrath. Yeah. I'd say certain Cormack McCarthy novels.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I'd say some of Faulkner of mice and men. Charles Dickens. Dickens, yeah. For most of literary history, have-nots and pores inhabited static roles in the background of real drama, real life, real emotion, which was the domain of the aristocracy. Most poor people in fiction were voyeuristic exercises done by the aristocracy who were sort of peering down on a life that they didn't really understand. Novels were mostly written for the discussion in parlor scenes of like Paris and London,
Starting point is 00:09:18 because those people bought books and occasionally read them. To put it in real simple terms, industrialization accidentally created modernism, which was sort of defined by the capacity to capture bigger sections of the human experience, including the lives and existence of poor people and the working class. Now, that is a huge oversimplification, and so is all of this. But factories made printing cheaper. And at the same time in America, the Red Menace, working through Reconstruction, had improved the public education for the industrialized proletariat.
Starting point is 00:09:53 That was the radical Republicans who are to blame for that. It's like the idea that a democracy should have people who know how to read. It's pretty new. Yeah. That's gross. And it's let us here. Biden's America. Another macro level thing to note here is that after the Russian Revolution, the Soviet
Starting point is 00:10:11 model became the model. But there were still a million other socialisms cropping up all over the world with robust movements in Germany and England, just as an example. As the Russian Revolution transitioned into the Soviet Union, there was no more wondering about what a socialist form of government would look like and how it would behave. And so a way of taking the temperature of the dictatorship of the proletariat was to check in on art and see what the nerds were up to. A socialist form of sculpture, music, painting, literature. It was all necessary, and it all needed state funding. Art would be the wet stone to challenge and sharpen the revolution,
Starting point is 00:10:48 and thus the concept of proletarian literature was born with guys like Maximum Gorky and then became an international movement. Now, that is a name. It's really Maxim Gorky, but I just always think of them as Maximum Gorky. All of the Gorky turned all the way up. This might resonate today, but there's a big difference between socialists, and left-leaning artists making work for the working class versus the working class being given the resources to make work about themselves.
Starting point is 00:11:15 The latter is way more dangerous to the culture industry. And this difference is the real essence of proletarian literature. It was made by people who labored in the day and then hit the typewriter at night. Do you guys think that sounds sustainable? No. You know, you're in the sheet metal factory all day and then you're like, boy, I want to relax by hammering into this machine that puts like steel stamps on paper. Anyway. Still, this is a huge idea. Authorship and the role of editor and writer and publisher are all very powerful positions today, but back then people actually gave a shit about writing, and print was like the primary mode of discourse in the 1920s and 30s. And so, in New York City, the left influencers and podcasters of their day got together and hatched a plan. America's communist intellectuals of the time were all based in Union Square, and specifically in the coffee houses where they all
Starting point is 00:12:07 hung out. They interpreted proletarian literature as a consciousness-raising tool and acted with a mandate to search out and publish hinterland writers. Specifically, this New York set were looking for worker artists who were already operating at the margins and just needed to be put into print. They wanted a Shakespeare in overalls, as editor Mike Gold said. These worker stories would be circulated amongst the working class. Workers would see themselves in art and see the struggle of their lives as on par with Homer's epics or the tragedies of Goethe, and they would be inspired to fight their oppressors with the suicidal fury of the Light Brigade, or so the theory said. By the end of it, the New York boys would be writing letters to our sweet gumbo poet H.H. Lewis,
Starting point is 00:12:50 calling him a necrophilic son of a creedon. Lewis, in turn, was calling them the coffee clutch clan, or the KKK, in other words, with Clatch, meaning a gathering for coffee in German. A horrible riff would develop between the New York intellectuals and the Heartland writers, with the Red Scare driving everyone absolutely insane and out of work. But for a time, this little machine worked. The American publishing apparatus produced a great number of proletarian works, from Meridel Les Sears novels to Tilly Olson's accounts of working women,
Starting point is 00:13:26 and the poet Arna Bonton, and one of my favorites, Richard Wright. But the showcase proletarian writer of that, era is, I would argue, Jack Conroy, a Midwestern novelist and editor of the Anvil. I wrote about him for the nation, and so here's a summary of all the good parts of that piece. The Sage of Moberly. Jack was born in a coal mining camp called Monkey's Nest, and had a very brief childhood. Conroy's father was killed while firing shots in a coal mine, which was a suicidal job where you got paid a little better, but you have to set off blasting caps underground in the darkness,
Starting point is 00:14:00 and it was so dangerous that if you successfully retired, it was often without an important limb or that you've narrowly escaped basically a cave-in. At the age of 14, Jack's older brother was run down by a train while coming back from his job at the Wabash Rail Station. That's right, a 14-year-old was coming home from laboring in the rail yard and was run over by a coal-fire steam engine. Then, Jack Conroy, at age 13, went and began his career as a car toad
Starting point is 00:14:29 working in the same Wabash Rail Yard that murdered his brother. And then he went home, again, as a 13-year-old, to his house in the coal mining camp that killed his father. Hooie! Conroy got a bit of a literary education through the Free Carnegie Library in Moberly, but books were supplemented by the language of the rail yard. There was prose scrawled into the insides and the outsides of boxcars,
Starting point is 00:14:54 and a lot of it was done by Wobbleys, or the international workers of the world, who left revolutionary truisms scratched in the paint. Wobbly poets like T-Bone Slim wrote some bangers, like, Wherever you find injustice, the proper form of politeness is attack. And? Only the poor break laws. The rich evade them.
Starting point is 00:15:14 There were IWW jokes and the lyrics to Joe Hill songs and stories about Casey Jones that all influenced Conroy as he worked his life away in the 20s reading and writing when he could. Have you guys ever heard the dirty Casey Jones lyrics? No, please. No. They're really bad. Should I do some bars real quick? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Please. Casey Jones was a son of a bitch. He drove his locomotive into a whorehouse ditch, flew through the door with his pecker in his hand and said, Step aside, ladies, I'm a railroad man. Then he lined 100 girls against the wall, bet $100 he couldn't fuck them all. Fucked to 97 until his balls turned blue, then backed off, jacked off, and fucked the last few.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Wow. Backed off and jacked off. I think I remember this from the first Ninja Turtles movie. They were like, dude, what are you talking about, Casey? Hey, man, stop jacking off on the back of our shells, bro. Yeah, that was the R-rated Ninja Turtles movie. By the time he was 32, Labor Strife in America had experienced. exploded, and people wanted to read about it. Conroy founded the Rebel Poets Organization,
Starting point is 00:16:31 which was a loose affiliation of radical writers, all communicating through the cutting-edge technology of the Postal Service. This was work that was produced on hand-crank presses and old cow barns and connected by mail, but the Rebel Poets became an international phenomenon, with chapters in England, Germany, France, and Japan. It functioned sort of like the John Reed clubs, which were organized by the Communist Party USA, and the idea was the same. Literacy could help build one big union. Education could unite anarchists, liberals, communists, Christian socialists, wobblies, populists, and so on. Theory guided Conroy and his contemporaries, but Conroy claimed that the site of Das Capital
Starting point is 00:17:12 on a bookshelf across the room was enough to give him a headache. Conroy would help jumpstart the careers of all kinds of writers, and rebel poets included work from people we still remember. like Sherwood Anderson and Langston Hughes. Lewis Ginsburg, whose work was overshadowed by his son, Alan, and the godson of J.P. Morgan were all rebel poets, and their mission was to awaken the working class, as Conroy wrote. The American worker is not the clawed he seems to be.
Starting point is 00:17:40 He has begun to think. When he gets into his full stride, his footsteps will shake the earth and tumble down many a godian gilded temple. This literary problem was not just a search for a Maoist version of Stephen King who could connect the dots of the class war. It was also a race against fascism, which was speaking to the masses in a language they were interested
Starting point is 00:18:01 in. Now I'm imagining writing it, but it is capital. It is like a landlord's a clown version of all the landlords in existence. They eat children, folks. Look out. In the early 1930s, Conroy became a
Starting point is 00:18:17 contributor to new masses, a New York publication edited by Mike Gold who drafted talent from the hinterland in order to wage this aesthetic war against specifically Ezra Pound. Something weird was happening in modernism. Printing was becoming cheaper, but literary novels and poems were becoming more difficult. In fact, they were becoming bizarre. The confusing points of view of Mrs. Dalloway, for example,
Starting point is 00:18:39 or the obscure phonic wordplay of Gertrude Stein, or the huge labyrinthian plot of Ulysses that's all contained to one day in Dublin and commemorates a pretty good handjob that Joyce got by a river one day. That was all very confusing to the average reader. But high modernism was developing rapidly in Europe, and Ezra Pound's occult version of it was explicitly fascist. Of Pound's tour of the dictators coming to power in Spain and Italy, and the rise of the American Boond Party at home, Mike Gold wrote,
Starting point is 00:19:10 You may yet return triumphantly, Ezra, to a fascist America, and lead a squad that will mystically, rhetorically, but effectively bump off your old friends, the artists at writers of the new masses. Always ready, but hoping to see you in hell first. Those are bars. BBL Ezra. BBL Ezra.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah, you guys, this is a lot like the Kendrick Drake feud of the day, right? Listen to kids, I'm turning a chair around and sitting down, and I'm telling you all about these 1930s guys. This was a big literary schism of the 1930s, and the big fear was that literature would be taken from the working class because only an intellectual connoisseur could keep up with it. Conroy wrote that eccentricity is not an inevitable
Starting point is 00:19:56 corollary of merit. Fidelity to life is always the final and only trustworthy touchstone. That's about as highfalutin as Conroy got, but in other words, being weird is an art, according to Conroy. I'm a big James Joyce head, so I don't necessarily
Starting point is 00:20:12 agree with all of that there, but I really admire this theory and how it was played out in Conroy's novels. He wrote two of them, world to win and the disinherited, and both are glimpses of a revolutionary possibility, a part of literature that was snuffed out by the complications and abstractions of high modernism and the new criticism, which is what prevailed after the Second World War. By 1940, everything in publishing and literature was shaken up by the war. The poet William
Starting point is 00:20:42 Carlos Williams wrote to his commie friend Lewis, worried that he was being shut out, possibly as retribution for his political friendships. Williams wrote, They tell me it's due to a paper shortage. While more paper is wasted for asinine purposes than there is piss in an army latrine. That is a great William Carlos Williams impression. I can hear like the plums and the ice box in that tone. Well, I knew him. I knew him. Oh, sure. Thousands of artists were blacklisted in Hollywood, which often gets the most attention in this period. But the FBI showed up at everyone's office door and
Starting point is 00:21:18 publishing, journalism, copy editing, book reviewing, etc. Conroy lost control of his second created publication and was divorced from the Anvil, which was then subsumed into the partisan review, and then the partisan review became this sort of champion for high modernism, and then would go on to receive CIA funding in the 50s and 60s. Conroy wrote to a friend that, The only safe thing to do is curse Moscow, and if you do that, many of your past sins are Shriven. Shriven. Shriven. It's a great word.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Mm-hmm. There's a story from this time of a guy who gets caught by the police, and he's got a bunch of Anvil and Blast magazines, and he just tells the cops that he's a blacksmith and not a communist, and luckily the cops didn't read any of those things. So he got away with it. Saved by illiteracy again. University journals with steady funding, like the Kenyon Review,
Starting point is 00:22:13 were founded around this time in 1939, and became more important. the literary prestige economy than unaffiliated outlets like the New Masses or H.L. Mankin's American Mercury. It's easy to look back on this 1930s high point of American communism and proletarian literature and see failure, but this failure was very orchestrated. As Taylor Dorrell notes in a piece on Mike Gold for J. Store. Gold was followed by agents who staked his whereabouts, took note of his friends, family, and his work from 1922 until his death in 1967. Indeed, the claim after World War II, the proletarian culture was ineffective at combating fascism
Starting point is 00:22:54 or working towards socialism is a historical. While critics promote the idea that communists were ineffective politically, the FBI had their hands full stifling the rise of Communist Party USA and their influence on progressive politics. The cultural programs of the New Deal were a life support system for many writers and artists who are blacklisted in this period. Since Conroy's fiction was concerned with folk tales and poor people's history, he received a Guggenheim grant that helped him maintain research and writing for a period. But official publishing routes were closed and though Conroy had been named one of the most promising writers in the country in 1935, by 1940 he was a non-person. So he did what any one of us would do, right, fellas? What would
Starting point is 00:23:37 you guys do in the Red Scare? I would sell Julian out in a moment. Nice. And I would sell drugs. And I would be, I would be playing whatever popular video game was out at the time. I think cup and ball, maybe. Yeah, maybe the first cup and hoop. First get cup and ball. I would be playing stick ball out in the street, completely ignoring the political upheaval. Listening to 1940s Weezer. Yeah, well, it would basically just be some sort of duop. Scanning lithographs for like ghosts. Yeah. That'd be cool. I'd be unaffected. Actually, you would be Jewish, and as such, not in a great place.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah, yeah, I'd be out in the scheddle selling rags and old iron. Working with my bubby, working with my bubby, day by day, we wheel our ice cart down the street. We sell ice chips to the people, as well as maybe some schmatties. Some pickles. Some pickles, some Bubby's pickles. And every once in a while, Charles Lindbergh just swoops down in his plane and starts firing away at everyone, you know. Conroy moved back to St. Louis and became a gang leader. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Cool. In the bars of East St. Louis, some of the most disgusting and violent taverns in this country's history, Conroy essentially became the ringleader of a bunch of CIO tufts. They were called the Fallonites, and they love to get blackout drunk on grain alcohol and sing. The CIO was the Congress. of industrial organizations, and the Falunites were rough-housing factory workers who also had artistic pretensions. They looked up to Jack, who had a literary career, and had published books, and Jack continued to write these lewd plays about politics and class, but otherwise there was no one asking for a third novel. No, plus enough grain alcohol and you just go blind. It's hard to write.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah, it's a real role of the dice. I do think the Falunites should have their own movie, because they would put on like a black mass performance, which just seems very cool. I don't know exactly what happened during it, but... Yeah, it was called black mass because they were all blacked out. Yeah, black mass meaning zero memory, which is fitting because Conroy, I don't think, was very proud of this boozy period.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Meanwhile, McCarthyism continued into the 1940s, and Conroy moved to Chicago to be hired on to the Illinois WPA. There, he worked closely with Harlem Renaissance poet Arnaud, Bonthomp on a study of black migration since the civil war. One day, FBI agents knocked on the I-WPA office door. They had questions for Conroy and Bonthomp, specifically about the nation of Islam. They were searching for the truth about this man named Yacoub, a black scientist from 6,000 years ago, who created white people through a selective breeding process called grafting.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Just kidding. I thought we were 3D printed. We kind of were. Yeah. Instead, they were after something weirder. The FBI interrogated Conroy and Bon Tom about possible connections between the Japanese Black Dragon Society and the nation of Islam. Both authors denied any knowledge about any links between the two. It's pretty cool to connect the Red Scare with the yellow peril and just plain old racism against black people.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yeah, they were really cooking. That's a, that's genuinely a blob. That is the FBI brain blob. It's fascinating how you can see just the little paranoid maps connecting, just like, sending off little signals of like, what if Japan sides with African Americans and then what, you know? Yeah, Japanese people famously not racist. Right. Why was the FBI after this?
Starting point is 00:27:22 To oversimplify it, the nation of Islam in the 1940s was dangerous to the Jim Crow FBI because it was essentially a black liberation theory that influenced the civil rights movement and Malcolm X and James Baldwin and so on and so on. The Black Dragon Society, meanwhile, was a ultra-nationalist movement in Japan and was said to control the government and seek world domination. The FBI feared these two were in cahoots, but it's the Black Dragons that drove our plowboy poet completely insane and stands as an interesting case study in early Cold War paranoia. The Oka Conspiracy In 1942, after three failed Guggenheim applications, H.H. Lewis believed the Guggenheim decision makers headed out for him. Same here. I see myself in him. Absolutely. He traveled to New York City armed with an enormous sheaf of poems, songs, ballots, free verse narratives, and prose rhythms. It was his last shot to convince the gatekeepers to support his
Starting point is 00:28:24 cause, which was documenting the lives of the underprivileged in the Midwest. Lewis would later conclude that the FBI, Communist Party, and the Black Dragons, or some combination of all three, were surveilling him on this NYC trip. As Lewis wrote to Special Agent G.B. Norris of the FBI office in St. Louis. Behind all this, there is perhaps the most luridly unheard-of spy thriller of the present war. In New York, Lewis was received well by the leftists, but his temperament had burned bridges with guys like Mike Gold. Lewis would write angry letters to people calling them dogs and shitheads, and they would
Starting point is 00:29:00 write back calling Lewis a degenerate farmer who was just as stupid as everyone in his part of the country. The theory of pro-lit was really falling apart here, and Lewis headed back to Cape Gerardo, back to the gumbo where the madness really started to creep in. As it does. As it does. Thanks to the beautiful librarians of Southeast Missouri State University, I got to read some of the letters Lewis wrote to Special Agent Norris at the FBI office in St. Louis, and the stuff he was mailing to Congressman Orville Simmerman of Missouri's 10th District. I also read the letters that Lewis wrote to J. Edgar Hoover, and they are very hard to follow. It was sort of like reading Schito-Twitter in a really bad way. But here's a summary of what Lewis thought was going on
Starting point is 00:29:46 with the Black Dragons and the CPUSA. In the Great Depression, there was a political rumbling around the Midwest because of this group called the Pacific Movement of the Eastern World. This was a 1930s pre-pearl Harbor pro-Japanese movement that promoted the idea that Japan was the champion protector of all non-white people. The Pacific Movement theorized that Japan was going to invade the United States soon, possibly through the Midwest first up the Mississippi River, because the invasion plan hinged on setting off a massive race war. African Americans oppressed by Jim Crow were going to throw off their chains and murder their oppressors for the Japanese cause, which is a kind of fascinating study in Haitian revolution paranoia. The Pacific Movement's practitioner and evangelist was a man
Starting point is 00:30:34 named Dr. Ashima Takas, who claimed to be a member of the ultra-nationalist paramilitary, the Black Dragon Society. Dr. Takas became known in St. Louis for organizing poor African-American communities using this anti-white sentiment, and he was pretty successful in collecting dues for his organization. Dr. Takas used those dues to travel all over to Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and New York, collecting pseudonyms for himself and membership fees along the way. These fees would support Japanese soldiers and guarantee safety during the coming invasion and maybe even provide a route to Japanese immigration after the fact. The Pacific movement was basically promising to end hegemonic white supremacy, and there was plenty of discontent to exploit on that front.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And honestly, it would have been an interesting historical turn. Yeah, if it wasn't just like one grifter talking. Yeah, this is a great story of a con man because Dr. Takis' real name was Policarpo Manansala. Okay, he was Italian? Fuck. Oh, my God. I assumed at least that much was true, but Jesus Christ. He was Filipino, okay?
Starting point is 00:31:46 Oh, okay. I have to say his name in like the Trump voice of like, Bollicarpo, Manantala. We don't like him, folks. Folks, folks, we don't like him. He's Japanese. I like that he basically relied on Americans not being able to tell the difference between Filipinos and Japanese people.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah, that's a very 19. 1930s thing you could get away with, I think. Manunzalo was Filipino, not Japanese, and you guessed it, he was a conman who skipped town on the Pacific movement once everyone was on to his scheme, and then he became a traveling spice salesman. He was eventually arrested for forging a money order in 1942, and this time he was posing as Mimo de Guzman. Mimo de Guzman.
Starting point is 00:32:28 He's very nasty. Watch out. Mimo, the late great Mimo de Guzman. Mimo Gersman, a lot of people are talking, they're saying, maybe he's Japanese, but maybe he's not. And a lot of other people are saying, Mummo is not such a great guy. The Black Dragons?
Starting point is 00:32:44 The Black Dragons, they come for me in the middle of the night, in the forms of shadows on my bathroom wall. Black Dragon, you smoke it out of a pipe. Or so I've heard, I don't do drugs, I don't drink. But I do drink. dragons. What am I even doing? I do drink dragons? You're really good at that, Jake. Yeah, you're killing it, man. Other than maybe like the content, but the tone... No, the content is always bad. That's what makes it funny is that the content is bad. Yeah. He was indicted for embezzling funds from
Starting point is 00:33:20 the Pacific Movement coffers. Oh, so Trump would like him. Exactly. A lot in common, honestly. What drove our beautiful gumbo poet Harold Lewis insane was a theory he concocted about Dr. Toccus. there was a fourth identity and that Dr. Toccus had posed as a fellow communist in the literary scene named Sasio Oka. Lewis and Oka were supposed to be friends and comrades. In 1934, Oka had translated a glowing essay about Lewis's work entitled H.H. Lewis, the American satirist poet. But in 1942, Lewis came to believe that Oka was privy to information about Pearl Harbor before it happened. Lewis believed that Oka had even written to him in code about Pearl Harbor as a warning and Lewis concluded that Oka had secretly been Dr. Takas and that the Black
Starting point is 00:34:10 Dragons had infiltrated CPUSA. Okay. It happens. Lewis is Takas. Takis is Lewis. Dr. Toccus, where does his vaccine come from? We don't know. But rest assured, rest assured, I had something to do with it, folks. I promise you. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Okay. We're going to put you down. Please, please do him. The St. Louis FBI office disagreed with this theory, and a letter, special agent, whatever, said... Prior to the apprehension of de Guzman, his whereabouts were known to this bureau, during which time he was under surveillance by our agents. In other words, he's not that guy, he's this guy, and we got him. Also, stop writing to us because we're spying on you.
Starting point is 00:34:54 That's incredible. I mean, this is a very specific type of madness, where you're kind of agreeing partially with the agents that are tracking you, and you have your own... theory that's even more crazy than their theory. And yeah, real mess here. Yeah, this is like a white hat theory about Cold War FBI agents wanting to protect the socialist movement in America. Yeah, exactly. They were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, maybe you want to go back to your beautiful writing. Yeah. What about those poems, buddy? You've been working on those? Drop this Oka shit. To put it lightly, in 1942, Lewis showed a lot of signs of disorganized thinking. He believed that Takas had pulled off this big dodge and that he had actually arranged a surgical change of face
Starting point is 00:35:38 to pull off the deception. My God. Which is like, it's a 1930s version of face off. They take my face and they pull it off. And this was a very public feud. Oka's letters to Lewis express deep frustration at Lewis's accusations as well as a plausible case. for a misunderstanding. Lewis's primary evidence against Oka
Starting point is 00:36:05 seemed to be that a mutual friend, Pete Chant, probably got Oka's name mixed up with another Asian man in Chicago named Ticano. Lewis probably misheard Ticano as Tocas and then we were off to the races. And we can't forget about Michael Dukakis. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:36:24 A close relative. No, that's completely unrelated and we will be moving on. Michael Dukakis My parents really liked him But he didn't win And my younger brother and I We thought that name was very funny
Starting point is 00:36:38 Michael Dukakis We'd say to each other It's just great We've got Mimo We've got Dr. Dukakis We've got Michael Dukakis All of our friends are here Yeah, that's the big three
Starting point is 00:36:50 Oka was a American Communist Party member Who had fled fascist Japan And was cleared of suspicion It's probably not a coincidence that in 1942, around the same time as Lewis's crack up, the Black Dragons had appeared as villains in D.C. comic books, and they were like conspiratorial antagonists. Oh, boy. Yikes. Yeah, we got to watch out for the Marvel movies. It's all deeply stupid Orientalism, and it's very fascinating.
Starting point is 00:37:19 At a larger level, Lewis was looking for clues as to what had happened to this once great force in American culture, which was going to manifest in utopia, but it had been betrayed. The spirit of Lenin was supposed to liberate the Missouri hinterland, and I will tell you from firsthand account, that did not happen. In letters, Lewis begged the American Communist Party and the FBI to help him figure this thing out. Boy, he almost pulled off the most unlikely partnership in history. I like the idea of, like, Lenin's casket being driven around on a fanboat. That would be sick.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Conroy did not take Lewis's conspiracy seriously. In a letter in 1945, he wrote, I doubt if the Communist Party of America will relish or credit your charges. Not only that, but many of the FBI agents are still more zealous in hunting down red than Axis agents. There's almost sure to be a duplication of the palmer raids after the war is over.
Starting point is 00:38:18 If you're on the list, you'll be one of the victims. That's so cool that heading into World War II, they were just chasing communists. Yeah. Nothing else was going on, nothing else on the docket. Nothing like that happening today, I'll tell you that. That's right. There's no lists.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Lewis even took extra measures to ensure his missives to Congressman Zimmerman and J. Edgar Hoover were specifically sealed so as to tell if someone was reading them because Lewis believed someone was tampering with his mail. Uh-huh, which is the very FBI he's writing to. Exactly. The FBI was opening Lewis's mail and had been for some time. They had been following Lewis because he was a CPUSA member, and it's very funny to send a letter to the guy who's stalking you saying, hey, be careful about this male. As the literary historian, Douglas Wixon put it.
Starting point is 00:39:06 In a broader sense, Lewis's story reflects events of greater consequence unfolding in society when artists, writers, film directors, and actors were intimidated, mentally tortured by agents and agencies of the government on evidence that no just court would admit. Wixen interviewed H.H. Lewis just before his death in 1985. The old rebel poet was living in a converted corn crib, which is a ventilated building used for storing ears of corn. And he was living there outside of Cape Girardo down in the boot heel. Wixen described Lewis in his old age as a man of great personal dignity, erect bearing, and old-fashioned courtesy. But Lewis's mind never really recovered. He confided in Wixen that some department of agents had welded an automobile. to stilts outside of the corn crib window so that the car's headlights shown directly in upon him and his bed at night. That's awesome because there's so many easier ways to shine light into someone's window, but he's like, no, no, no, this is a car on stilts. Yeah, it'd be a car on stilts. It's weird that, like, the train gets supplanted by the car in this, like, paranoid fantasy, too.
Starting point is 00:40:15 That's appropriate. Lewis showed Wixen a coffee-stained check for $1,500 from Yale University, In exchange for some letters, Lewis had received from Malcolm Cowley and Edmund Wilson. Our rebel poet left the archive proceeds uncashed, lying in a pile of newspapers. How to spite, maybe, but I choose to believe he had reached Leninist Nirvana and did not care for worldly things. As Wixen theorized, it is likely that the Japanese espionage plot that Lewis had fantasized was bound up with the question of literary recognition. Lacking what he sought, Lewis felt abandoned and turned his dissoning. appointment to a paranoiac response directed at the FBI, who actually was harassing him,
Starting point is 00:40:58 and alleged plots against the United States in World War II by the Black Dragons. In his better days, Lewis had written anti-racist poetry and dreamed of utterly as an American birthright, a community designed to create human thriving. Lewis was the son of a boot-heel farmer, born into the kind of people who toiled in the gumbo all their lives, and in socialism, Harold found a secular faith and the promise of a better tomorrow. And that tomorrow was systematically canceled and it hurt him deeply.
Starting point is 00:41:27 The Weed King. After the Illinois Writers Project lost funding, Jack Conroy found employment with Nelson Algren in Chicago's venereal disease control unit or SIF Patrol, as I called it. Which was located in the Chicago Health Department. I'm a dick inspector. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Looking for the SIF. As a WPA spin-off organization, the VD control sent Conroy as an investigator to taverns and suspected Bordellos to deliver summonses. He would escort prostitutes to health clinics for tests, and at least once, he was threatened by a pimp wielding a knife. Okay, so more of a pussy inspector, I suppose. He was more of a pussy inspector, for sure. Got it. I think that was on the resume. This is notable because Conroy's fiction is remarkably intersectional before that is even a word.
Starting point is 00:42:18 that was invented by grad school. For example, the illegality of abortion is a huge problem throughout a world to win, which was published in 1935. In that novel, doctors won't risk their license on someone who isn't rich enough to pay regular medical bills, and so one of our protagonists, Leo Hurley and his wife, are forced to flee the city and look for work. They end up picking in a turnip field for $3 a day, and while there, a Mormon farmer won't allow Anna to work because she's pregnant.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Leo observes. The Mexicans in the next field had their women and girls working with them, but there appeared to be some difference between Mexicans and white men in the eyes of the Mormons. It's the ultimate bind. You're too poor for an abortion and too pregnant to work. One day, a Mexican woman screams running through the fields, calling for help. She's had a miscarriage and lies in the ditch beside the road weeping. One of our white farm hands says to Leo, those people shouldn't be allowed to have children. And Leo, sort of a stand-in for Conroy, says, shove it. This pregnancy ends up killing Leo's wife, Anna, and he returns to St. Louis at the end of Conroy's novel, fully joker-fied.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Leo ends up shooting a cop and then goes to war with the America first street fascists of the day. It's very badass, and it's a very good novel. In Chicago, after SIF Patrol, Conroy got a steady job editing encyclopedias, but still the FBI agents showed up again. His employer turned the agents away, telling them, He's a good editor, and I don't care about his political ideas. Like Lewis, Conroy retired to his hometown in Missouri. His novels did not attract interest again until the late 1960s, after some of the Red Scare had receded,
Starting point is 00:43:58 and the counterculture began to investigate the amnesia. In 1966, Arna Bontomp and Conroy together published their Illinois Writers' Project Study of Migrating Black Populations, which was reprinted as Any Place But Here. In 1967, Gwendolyn Brooks presented Conroy with the first Times Prize, citing His aid and encouragement to young writers and his overall contributions to American literature, particularly his novel, The Disinherited. There's a strong connection between the proletarian lit movement and the novelist of the mid-century who would come to typify American literature. Who gets canonized is not the be-all end-all, but we might not have Richard Wright or Langston Hughes or Sherwood Anderson or William Carlos. Williams without the proletarian literature movement.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I personally love a world to win, but the disinherited is Conroy's big seller. It's also very good, and it's nearly out of print, which is a hint to the New York Review of Books, that you should do like one of the nice little colorful editions of that. That would be cool. Please. Please. At the end of the disinherited, our protagonist Larry Donovan has bore witness to years of economic emiseration in the Great Depression.
Starting point is 00:45:13 His family, his friends, and thousands of strangers have all been ground down by the system, forced to migrate, estranged from each other and their homes. At the end of his rope, Donovan finds work on a highway paving crew in the middle of farmland, and while sweating under the hot Missouri sun, one day he watches a black man work himself to death. The man keels over in the sun, and yet work has to continue. Donovan challenges the water boy on why black and white workers have to use different cups, and the water boy accidentally drops leaves of chewing tobacco from his mouth into the water meant for his proud Nordic people. In these conditions, Leo finally sees that fear binds capital exploitation together. He has worked thousands of hours in embarrassing jobs that never pay enough.
Starting point is 00:45:59 He says, I no longer felt shame at being seen at such work as I would have once, and I knew that the only way for me to rise to something approximating the grandiose ambitions of my youth would be to rise with my class, with the disinherited. Every guy but any of the paving gang, every covert or open sneer by prosperous-looking bystanders, infuriated me, but did not abash me. The fat on my bones melted away under the glare of the burnished sun, and the fat in my mind dissolved, too. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I like that description, the fat in my mind. Ozympic, but for class consciousness. It just melts off. After Donovan's epiphany, news from the city arrives. Some 1,500 hungry people have marched on the St. Louis mayor's office. The disenfranchised are demanding to be fed, and the St. Louis police have met them with tear gas bombs, but the workers stood their ground. This event is called the July riot, and features both in the disinherited and a world to win. The organizer tells Donovan that a black worker in St. Louis was burned to the shoulder, but he kept him.
Starting point is 00:47:04 catching the bombs and hurling them back at the police. King? This was crazy to me because in 2014, a St. Louis resident named Edward Crawford was photographed throwing a flaming tear gas canister back at police during the Michael Brown protest. Crawford reported that he had just come from work in a kitchen and was dressed in an American flag shirt. In the photo, he is hurling a flaming smoking grenade back at the militarized police in Ferguson. The image became emblematic of justice-seeking defiance in the face of an overwhelming antagonized police state. It's a natural echo of the last century.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And while the 1932 July riot is largely forgotten, it's been preserved in Conroy's art because his life was devoted to telling the stories of working people up against all odds, hurtling rocks at Goliath. Conroy took an interest in the weeds of human existence. The people of the abyss whose lives are rarely understood beyond the daily labor they perform in the background of bourgeois lives. In 1985, Conroy published his last work, The Weed King and Other Stories,
Starting point is 00:48:08 and spent his final years offering wisdom to traveling scholars and readers who made the pilgrimage out to Missouri to visit the Sage of Moberly. He won an honorary doctorate from the University of Missouri, and he won the Mark Twain Award from the Society for the Study of Midwestern Literature. Jack Conroy passed away and was buried in the Sugar Creek Graveyard alongside his brothers and his father in 1990. As scholars like Douglas Wixen have pointed out, the Red Scare gave us all kinds of fucked-up ideas about the origins of communism and socialism, including the notion that either of those political ideologies is particularly Russian or even foreign.
Starting point is 00:48:47 In fact, Wixen argues that Conroy's artistic political formations came from a thoroughly American tradition of protests. And it was expressed in earlier manifestations like the Farmers Alliance, the People's Party, the Non-Partisan League, and especially the IWW. There were various infusions of immigrant liberalism, such as the free-thinking 48ers, that inspired Conroy and his Midwestern radical writers, and that created a genuinely distinct American, proletarian, cultural movement. In his final published piece in 1985,
Starting point is 00:49:24 these are the last words Conroy penned for print. Where do the displaced from the computerized, demecanized plants of the new technology go? Some may be found enjoying the hospitable soup lines of charitable organizations. Others, homeless, sleeping on grates or in cubby holes in the cities. A boy or girl fortunate enough to afford four years of college may be fortunate to join the dance of the machine. Different times, different customs. The crucible of the future will turn out different workers.
Starting point is 00:49:53 But what sort and what temper? Damn. Yeah, beautiful stuff. Yeah, amazing writing. Thank you so much, Devin. What an amazing story. And, of course, steeped in paranoia and rotted from the inside, poisoned. It's coated in paranoia.
Starting point is 00:50:11 It's eerily relevant, maybe. It's hard to connect to, like, the lives of people in the 30s today, you know. I like to think of all of our listeners lying in the gumbo with just their little eyes and nose and mouth poked out. And they are looking up at the searing sun as they hear our words. And H.H. Lewis is muttering a dirty poem into their ear. That's right, about holding his pecker in his hand. I have to say, it's certainly no fun to hear about the struggles, you know, the struggles of people trying to fight or at least push back against, you know, this crushing sort of wealth gap and lack of real support for the working class industry. and know that almost a hundred years later, we're still, you know, we're still challenging these, you know, these same things.
Starting point is 00:51:08 It's so, it's just like, oh, man, you would think in a hundred years that we would look like the, you know, the utopian meme. But that's not the case that just there are more voices, more voices and stronger law enforcement agencies that are cracking down on anybody who believes that, you know, the working class is essentially discarded by the American government. Yeah, the Edward Crawford thing is both inspiring and very depressing, that it's like, oh, the same thing happened in 1935 or two. Mm-hmm, yeah. But the struggle lives on in podcasting. And, of course, you can log on to your premier socialist resistance network at patreon.com
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Starting point is 00:52:44 Up to my ears in shrimp Well we'd like it to be Croddads but you know I suppose a Jewish boy from Chicago Has to make do Yeah and isn't it Shellfish That's the thing
Starting point is 00:52:55 the Jewish people can eat. There's no problem. Yeah, we're not supposed to enjoy them, but that is one rule I choose not to follow. That's right. Devin, tell us where people can find more of your work and follow you. I'm on the hot website X.com as well as Instagram and TikTok, and I'm working on a book about the veiled profit, and so you should tune in to hear news about that. That's also a premium episode. What are your handles on those platforms? Oh, I'm Devin T. O'Shea on everything. Awesome. We'll put that link in the description, and we love you, folks, and we appreciate you. And you can head to our website, QAAPodcast.com. It'll soon be renovated. I know right now it's still the old Q&Anononymous stuff, but we will be updating it. And we may have a merch drop in the works with some of our new cover art on all kinds of fun mediums. So stay tuned, folks. Listener, until next week, may Harold Hardwell Lewis bless you and keep you. We have auto-kewed content based on your preferences.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Casey Jones was the son of a bitch, drove steam engine through a 40-foot ditch, paced on the whistle and he shut on the bell, and he went through Chicago like a pat out of hell. Casey Jones mounted to his cabin, Casey Jones had his pecker in his hand, Casey Jones mounted to his cabin, bend over ladies i'm a railroad man it happened one morning about a quarter to four pulled up in front govoy whorehouse door climbed through the window with his cock in his hand said i'll prove on a railroad man
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