QAA Podcast - The 2020 Effect feat Mike Rothschild (Premium E291) Sample
Episode Date: May 27, 2025A viral conspiracy theory has taken tik tok by storm with a bold claim that the “2020 effect” is finally fading. The colors are returning to planet Earth and summer is looking like it might have ...a “2015 vibe”. Jake and Travis are joined by OG QAA guest and fellow conspiracist researcher and author, Mike Rothschild, to try and uncover why the color disappeared in the first place, and the repercussions of it returning once again. Have the planet’s devs finally pushed the long-awaited graphics update? Or have they merely reverted to an older patch? Subscribe for $5 a month to get all the premium episodes: www.patreon.com/qaa Mike Rothschild: https://themikerothschild.com // https://www.patreon.com/MikeRothschild Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (https://instagram.com/theyylivve / https://sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (https://pedrocorrea.com) https://qaapodcast.com QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.
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Welcome to the QAA podcast, Premium Episode 291, the 2020 effect.
As always, we are your host, Jake Rockatansky, Mike Rothschild, and Travis Vue.
Hello, Mike.
How you doing, bud?
I am doing all right, and I am happy to be talking about this thing that I had never heard of until yesterday.
Yes, you know what?
This is one that I hadn't heard about either, and it's
started to come across my TikTok feed, and I was like, you know what, it's so rare that a new
conspiracy graces our pages. So I figured we'd grab our OG conspiracy analyst to sort of help
us make sense with this one. Yeah, happy to do it. How's everything going for you? I don't,
not everybody, I'm sure, is keeping up with your, uh, your Patreon where you have been sort of
detailing your, your life and experience after the fire. So maybe before we get in, we can just
check in and see how things have been going, man.
Yeah, you know, things are about as good as you could possibly think your life could be,
you know, four months after losing your home and everything in it in a, you know,
catastrophic fire that destroyed your community.
You know, we're back in Pasadena.
We're rebuilding.
We've got an architect.
We've got a contractor.
Our lot has been cleared.
So it's not a smoking pile of toxic rubble anymore.
We're kind of getting back to something resembling normal while also understanding that
It's going to be a long time before the sense of community that we had before the fire is there in any capacity.
But yeah, we're hanging in there and trying to just sort of move forward as best we can.
Right.
You had a great piece on your, on your Patreon about the moment where the kids started to go back to school and how, you know, and we'll get into this episode, you know, because a lot of the talk is actually about the pandemic, you know, another catastrophic event.
And, you know, people, they quote, they say something like being rushed back.
into normal. And it's got to be like a weird, a weird experience. Yeah, it is a weird experience.
It's this weird kind of liminal space of everything is different. Everything has been thrown
into chaos. You don't ever know if anything will be the same. But at the same time, you know,
you've got to get some groceries and you've got to take care of your mail and you've got to
figure out some way to work and your kids have to figure out some way to go to school. And so you're
you're living this kind of aggressively normal life while at the same time, everything around you
is extraordinary and almost everybody you know is going through the same thing. So it's like trying
to live in the ordinary world and the extraordinary world at the same time. And it's, it's no wonder
people kind of lose touch with reality. It's a lot to balance. I was going to ask you,
does it absolutely suck being a conspiracy theorist debunker at a time when it would be so much
easier to find some kind of explanation or somebody to blame or, you know, the powers that be
or space lasers, you know, like your book. I mean, is it just kind of like one of those
situations where you're like, ugh, I'd love to believe, I'd love to actually disconnect from
reality, but because of like what I do and the, you know, what I write about, like, I know
better. And so I just sort of have to deal with like reality in the suck, if that makes any
sense? Yeah, it makes perfect sense. And it really illustrates why people turn to
conspiracism as an offer of easy answers, of scapegoats, of cartoon villains. You know,
you want to believe that somebody did this to you. You know, you were targeted or that you're
part of somebody's plan. But that's not really useful for me and other people who've gone
through these fires. We certainly are looking at why this happened and how it happened and what
kind of failures took place. But the failures were, you know, what was the county's plan to
evacuate people? Why were they relying only on cell phones, particularly for, you know, middle-class
communities and for people who maybe are older and not as tech savvy? You know, why was there
no water? How did the fire start in the first place? Whose responsibility was this? And those are things
that it would be much easier to offer up conspiracism than to take really hard, long looks at what happened
and how the people involved in this went wrong.
So you can understand how the conspiracy theories offer this kind of cartoon world
where there's just an easy explanation for everything and everything's just a plot
and somebody knows what's going on.
And I think in a lot of cases, people just didn't know what was going on
or just didn't do what they were supposed to do.
Yeah.
Man, it's crazy.
Well, we're glad you're okay.
Yeah.
And we're glad that you're, you know, finding some semblance of normalcy
and mostly just personally that you're still able to stay in the area
where your home is, you know, we were talking a little bit before we started recording.
And I feel like to just be in a familiar area at the very least and, you know, sort of like
work back into these routines, I feel like is a little bit easier than had you been displaced
to like, you know, another state or another country or even another city in Southern California.
Oh, yeah, yeah. And that sense of when we're around people in the community, the questions are
where are you living these days? How is your insurance going? You know, did you get a check from
your mortgage company? Has your lot been cleared? I traveled for the first time outside of Southern
California. I spoke at a conference in Houston in April and people were asking where, you know,
where did I come in from? I said, oh, L.A. And people say, oh, where in L.A.? And I go,
Al-Tadena. And they would, and they go, oh, my God, are you okay? No. Nope.
But it's like, it's actually as traumatic as it is.
is to tell this story over and over. It's actually really helpful because it normalizes it for me. The more
I talk about it, the more I process it, the more it just becomes like, yeah, this is part of my life's
story now. And it also helps other people who are not going through this, but who have maybe
gone through something similar. In Houston, you're talking about hurricanes and floods. And I spoke to
multiple people like, yeah, we lost our home in the hurricane or, you know, we had our basement
destroyed by a flood. Like, everybody's going through something. And it's helpful both to
stay in the community of people who are going through this specific thing and to get out among
people who are going through other things. You know, there's an empathy of, hey, you know, we're all
just people going through the stuff that you go through when you're a person. As my therapist
once told me, he was like, hey, man, you're just like a regular human being trying to make sense
of an absolutely crazy world. That's it. Exactly. Yep. You know what? That has always brought
me a little bit of comfort. And I think it's like a good segue into this episode about,
the 2020 effect, which really, at the end of the day, focuses around how people perceived time
and reality in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic. Yeah, I think that's a great segue.
In the seven years or so, since we've been doing this podcast, it's pretty rare that I come
across a conspiracy that is new to me, and especially one that scratches my particular
conspiracy itch. It's usually Brad Abraham's who has to dig into the
of the World Wide Web to find something that tickles my fancy, but today I have brought
it on myself. Have you ever felt like things are fundamentally different since the year 2020?
Sure, most of us are well aware of the historical pandemic that transformed our realities
as we know them, but is it something more esoteric than that? Or are conspiracy theories so
prevalent online these days that they're just the natural way that Zoomers are coping with,
quote, time, and quote, aging.
In the past couple years, a strange idea has circulated predominantly on TikTok and other social
media platforms that something changed in the code of reality in 2020, causing the world
to drain of its color.
The viral conspiracy is known as the 2020 effect, and believers claim that ever since the year
2020, the sky doesn't feel quite as blue, the grass doesn't look quite as green.
Is this just depression?
Or have our tentacled overlords rolled back to a previous patch due to the sheer amount of bugs in the 2020 update?
Well, today we're going to be taking a closer look at the phenomenon, as well as new claims circulating online that the colors are finally returning.
It seems that in 2025, the Earth's devs have finally released the Vibrant Visuals' graphics update.
Either that, or, according to multiple users, the population on a whole is finally embracing Jesus.
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