QAA Podcast - The Year of Pynchon feat. Devin O’Shea (Premium E290) Sample

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Devin O'Shea guides us into the world of acclaimed novelist Thomas Pynchon, whose cryptic, sprawling narratives echo the chaotic info deluge of contemporary digital culture. With Paul Thomas Anderson's newest Pynchon adaptation, One Battle After Another, hitting theaters in September 2025, and Pynchon himself releasing a fresh novel, Shadow Ticket, in October, it’s time to unpack what makes Pynchon uniquely relevant today. From the hippie noir mystery of Inherent Vice to the critically-panned Vineland, we explore why this reclusive author has captivated (and frequently frustrated) readers for decades. Along the way, we discuss the complex relationship his work has with history, conspiracy, technology, and power. Subscribe for $5 a month to get all the premium episodes: https://patreon.com/qaa Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (https://instagram.com/theyylivve / https://sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (https://pedrocorrea.com) https://qaapodcast.com QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.

POMPEO-HOLI-WKIN-U-U-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-W-A-W. If you're hearing this, well done, you've found a way to connect to the internet. Welcome to the QAA podcast, Premium Episode 290, the year of Pinchung. As always, we are your host, Jake Rakatansky, Devin Nosey, Julian Fields, and Travis Vue. In September 2025, one battle after another starring Leonardo DiCaprio is set to hit theaters, and that will be Paul Thomas Anderson's second adaptation of a Pynchon novel. Did you fellas see PTA's Inherent Vice? I did.

Unfortunately, I found it a little dislocated, a little floaty, but, you know, I'm also just not super familiar with Pinch on, so it might just be that. I did not. Oh. Fair. Fair. Fair. Nowadays, my movies, they've got to have an asteroid either headed for the Earth, some kind of extinction-level event, or extraterrestrials, or some kind of ghost.

What about those movies that you watch in, like, really short spurts? The ones, like, in your phone in the restroom. That's mostly just like guys at gun ranges, firing, you know, firing, you know, emptying whole magazines. Right, right. That's what I meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. Travis, have you seen it?

No, I missed that one. No one's done their homework. All right, fine. I'll be to carry the team on my back then. No, that's not, I mean, I've seen it, you know? That's true. Okay, okay, that's fair. He's stoned.

He's confused. Something's afoot. There's some hippie shit going on. Yeah. Jake, you would like Vineland because there's a bunch of Ghostbusters references, and there are ghosts, and there's Godzilla, and we'll get to all that. Okay. Yeah.

So, that's a pitch. 2014's Inherent Vice starred Joaquin Phoenix as Doc Sforcello, a counterculture detective who senses that the hippie world of Southern California is shifting off its access, as 1969 gives way to 1970. What tips Doc off is a missing ex-lover and something about a golden fang and vanishing black communities, and the sudden presence of heroin in the hippie diet where previously there was only peace and pot, as well as a sense that the American social world was composed of flimsy rules. In Pynchon's spiritually charged 60s, everything dreamed up by post-war stiffs in suits

has been put in flux by music and drugs and politics, but is being settled down by systems of control from the mental institution to the cops. Josh Brolin does a pretty good job of playing the LAPD detective Bigfoot Bjornson, who is sort of Docs-Borchello's shadow self on the other side of the law. I have a feeling I can rewatch the movie after this episode and enjoy it more and see, see the subtleties. There's a lot going on in it. And it is really floaty and like narratively disjunctive and all of that dumb postmodern

shit. Which makes sense. It makes sense. It's like the acid has turned sour and yeah. Yeah. Doc is a private eye hippie who is much like a Raymond Chandler detective on the hunt for a missing woman, which is a recurring theme in almost every pension story, novel, whatever. Inherent Weiss was a pretty loyal adaptation of the 2009 book,

but the new DiCaprio movie is only based on Vineland, which was published in 1990 and takes place in the 1984 year of Orwell and Reagan. Oh, well, now I know why there's Ghostbusters references. Exactly. Yeah, it's in the air. I see Leo here with a beautiful handlebar mustache. Mm-hmm. He's in sort of a robe, but he looks dressed underneath it also, holding a big rifle. I mean, I'm going to watch it, in fact, but...

Yeah, the poster kind of looks like the Big Lobowski meets heat, which I'm very much into. That's spot on. Yeah. Vineland is still the core inspiration, but one battle after another will be moved up to the 1990s, and this trailer shows plenty of gunfire and car chases, which, as we'll talk about, is sort of a theme in the book. But the really interesting thing about Vineland is that in 1990, when it was published, everyone hated it. It was hugely disappointing to a whole lot of literature nerds. David Foster Wallace wrote to Jonathan Franzen complaining that the master had lost his touch. I get the strong sense. He spent

20 years smoking pot and watching TV. See, man, this is Exit. Dude, this is why. By the way, those two names, two of the most annoying people to me. Like, I truly, I have no love for either. And I know lots of people do, but it couldn't be me. It's fair. I'll take Pynchon any day. We're definitely in like lit bro hell right now for some people, but I have to agree that Pinchon is like different

from all these other guys because he's like the progenitor of all of them, but still interesting as we'll see. By the end of this, we'll understand why DFW was saying something so true and yet derogatory, but on top of a new Pinchon movie,

after 12 years of what Pinchon John always terms productive silence since his last novel. The 87-year-old author will publish a new one called Shadow Ticket on October 7th, 2025. See, but going back to this DFW and Jonathan Franzen thing, it's so funny to be like he's been smoking pot and watching TV for 20 years, which is exactly what America has basically been doing. Meanwhile, DFW and Jonathan Franzen, they're in their elite circles. They're reading books still. They're the ones that, unfortunately, are out of touch. Just because DFW is kind of like melted and maybe has trouble finding focus,

I think that's more appropriate for our time than, you know, having remained some sort of, you know, ivory tower book reader. Yeah. And from what I understand of Wallace, he was definitely smoking pot and watching TV. That's what Infinite Just is all about. So sort of, I don't know, pot kettle black sort of thing here. The Trill Billies did a really excellent episode on Pynchon's last novel, Bleeding Edge. I highly recommend that conversation if you are after some more after this. It is a little odd that Shadow Ticket is publishing on October 7th, and that has to be a coincidence, right?

It's just a good spot on the fall publishing calendar, correct? Yeah, I would hope so. I don't know what's happening there. No comment. Well, this is the problem with Pinchon. coincidences, hidden messages, inside jokes, an unusual amount of clandestine government operations disclosure. It all ends up in his novels.

When we were planning the episode, Travis was pointing out that there might actually not be any better author for our era than Thomas Pynchon because of his absurdist, maximalist style and how it rhymes with like the data deluge of the internet that we kind of are immersed in, you know? Absolutely. Pynchon also has a very long history of writing about Rockets and Colonial Genocide Encyclopedia Rockatanskia

Nice I don't get the reference but nice I'm kidding I'm joking The encyclopedic novel is a big genre of fiction that goes back to Homer if you really want to get technical about it But a book called The Anatomy of Melancholy By a Hermit Scholar named Robert Burton Is a more contemporary example

meaning it was published in 1621. Mm-hmm, yeah. The express purpose of the anatomy was to compile Burton's lifetime of knowledge inside one single book, creating an encyclopedic index of selected quotes and concepts, scientific musings on how the body is composed of migrating humors, all of that 1600s stuff. Mm-hmm. But Burton's purpose of the book is to fill it with stuff that will make you the reader feel less depressed,

which is where you get the anatomy of melancholy. title. And if you look up a picture of Robert Burton, he looks like a guy who is at a gas station at 2 a.m. asking if he can bum a sig off of you, except he's wearing an Oxford Ruff, that like white thing around the neck. Yeah, this is a very Jake Rakitansky thing to do. It is, you know? You got to add a scratcher in one of his hands, a lot of scratcher. Yeah, one that spent, but, you know, it's got $2 on it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm just going in. I'm flipping, I'm flipping scratchers. I got $5, that's a another scratcher. I went 10, that's two scratchers. I leave empty-handed. No scratchers.

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