QAA Podcast - Trickle Down Episode 6: War, Disease & Amnesia (Sample)

Episode Date: May 30, 2022

The 1918 Pandemic was a deadly outbreak of influenza that killed tens of millions globally. It was also forgotten by historians for a generation. Medical officers in charge of the American Expeditio...nary Forces in World War I were confident that they could stop all infectious diseases in their tracks. The previous advances in medical science showed them that wartime epidemics could be stopped through sanitary measures. But when the flu pandemic ripped through their ranks, they didn’t know what to do. And the government was too focused on winning the war to offer much help to the civilian population. After the war, authorities were unable to deal with the horrors of the disease in an honest way. They preferred to forget. And so for decades afterwards, the horrors of the 1918 pandemic were erased from the cultural consciousness. This is a 10-part series brought to you by the QAA podcast. To get access to all upcoming episodes of Trickle Down as well as a new premium QAA episode every week, go sign up for $5 a month at patreon.com/qanonanonymous Written by Travis View. Theme by Nick Sena (https://nicksenamusic.com). Additional music by Pontus Berghe and Nick Sena. Editing by Corey Klotz. REFERENCES Arnold, Catharine (2018) Pandemic 1918: Eyewitness Accounts From the Greatest Medical Holocaust in Medical History Byerly, Carol (2005) Fever of War: The Influenza Epidemic in the U.S. Army During World War I Barry, John M. (2018) The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic In History Crosby, Alfred (1989) America's Forgotten Pandemic: The Influenza of 1918

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In April 1918, Army Surgeon General William Crawford Gorgas received a letter for Major General Hugh Scott, commander of the 78th century General William Crawford Gorgas received a letter for Major General Hugh Scott, commander of the 78th the division at Camp Dix in New Jersey. Scott was worried about disease in this camp, saying this, I feel perturbed over the pneumonia and scarlet fever situation. No one here seems to be able to give me a cause sufficient for the effects I see. The camp is as clean as a hound's tooth. Gorgas responded quickly. He acknowledged the problem of pneumonia and recalled a time earlier in his career when he beat back a disease that threatened men in his care. He wrote back this. It is now just like yellow fever before we use mosquito precautions. We know perfectly well, that we can control pneumonia absolutely if we could avoid crowding the men, but it is not
Starting point is 00:01:04 practicable in military life to avoid this crowding. Gorgas assured Scott that despite these practical obstacles, medical science endowed them with all the knowledge necessary to control the outbreak. I haven't the least doubt that if you tomorrow could give every man in Camp Dix his own individual hut, the pneumonia would ease at once. This note, sent during the pandemic of 1918, revealed that Gorgas was overconfident and did not appreciate the scale of the problem that he faced. The influenza outbreak was rapidly spreading and mutating in the trenches of World War I.
Starting point is 00:01:38 The virus would soon be responsible for more deaths of American soldiers than combat and would spread all over the world. Even after the pandemic subsided, the failure of men like Gorgas to fully control or reckon with or even understand the pandemic would become an afterthought. It was overwhelmed by the all-reaching war propaganda machine. What's more, the inconvenience of the pandemic would cause its story to be nearly erased from cultural consciousness for decades afterwards. I'm Travis Few, and this is Trickled Down, a podcast about what happens when bad ideas flow from the top.
Starting point is 00:02:11 With me are Julian Field and Jake Rockatansky. Episode 6. War, Disease, and Amnesia. You'll like a lot of people, as a consequence of the pandemic we're still living through today, I became interested in the pandemic of 1918, and this one is commonly referred to as a Spanish influenza after the erroneous belief that originated in Spain. Now, it's only real competition for the title of the deadliest pandemic in history is the Black Death. It is estimated that about 500 million people or one-third of the world's population became
Starting point is 00:02:50 infected with the virus. The number of deaths is estimated to be at least 50 million worldwide, with about 675,000, and occurring in the United States alone. Even remote and isolated communities of people were not spared. Some native villages in Alaska were decimated. 20% of Western Samoans perished. It was an unimaginably horrifying event, made even more horrifying by the fact that there was a lot less understanding of influenza then than that there is now.
Starting point is 00:03:19 The human influenza virus was not isolated until 1933. So despite the fact that this pandemic was hugely significant and global, I was surprised learned that one of its first comprehensive histories was published in 1976 and it was republished in 1989 under the title America's Forgotten Pandemic. I was a little confused like how something that impactful could be forgotten. What I discovered was that despite the pandemic significance, it was ignored by historians for about a generation. And not just historians, it was also ignored, minimized, and glossed over by contemporary observers. For example, in 1919, the New York Tribune columnist Haywood Brown published a book of his columns about the war called Our Army at the
Starting point is 00:04:01 Front. None of these columns mentioned the pandemic once, despite the fact that the flu killed more soldiers than bombs or bullets. To cite another example, in 1924, Encyclopedia Britannica, published a two-volume collection of essays titled These Eventful Years, the 20th century in the making, as told by many of its makers. This book promised to present, quote, the dramatic story of all that has happened throughout the world during the most momentous period of all of history. Yet in that book's 1,300 pages, the influenza virus that ravaged the world
Starting point is 00:04:33 just five years earlier is not mentioned once, which is wholly absurd. Imagine if someone wrote like a history of the 21st century in 2024, 2025, and deciding to completely omit COVID-19. Now, the silence wasn't universal. I mean, it had to be acknowledged to some extent. You know, it sickened and killed so many.
Starting point is 00:04:53 people. But the silence was pervasive, and even when the pandemic was discussed or mentioned, it was like glossed over or downplayed. And that's baffling when you compare it to like, I don't know, the sinking of the Titanic. You know, this was a disaster that resulted in the death of just 1,500 people, but it was remembered with like songs and books and memorabilia and museum displays and movies. It was a horrible shipwreck, and it was immediately part of the Western cultural consciousness and then stayed in the cultural memory for generations. But the 1918 pandemic, which was orders of magnitude more horrible, didn't get the same cultural treatment. So how did this happen?
Starting point is 00:05:32 Partly, it was because the pandemic came at an inconvenient time. That was in the middle of World War I. There was just a lot going on, you know? Even while the pandemic was happening, people in positions of power and authority mostly only cared about it to the extent that it affected the war effort. The story of the pandemic's impact was just smothered by war propaganda, and this story. silence continued even after the war ended. And partly is because medical authorities really believe that they could conquer contagious disease thanks to advances in medical science. And when it turned out that they couldn't, they treated the pandemic as a weird exception or anomaly. Now, there were
Starting point is 00:06:08 many medical heroes of the pandemic of 1918. You know, first and foremost was the countless doctors, nurses, and orderlies who threw themselves in between the disease and the patients. You know, their service often cost them their health and their lives. They're also the medical researchers who performed experiments day and night in hopes of learning more about the virus and finding some kind of treatment. But this is not a podcast about heroes, so I'm not going to focus on them. For my purposes, I'm going to focus on a more narrow aspect on the history of the pandemic, specifically how the war and the virus collaborated to make the plague, and how medical officers made arrogant by advances in science or caught flat-footed by the spread of the disease.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I'll talk about how they discounted the significance of the epidemic as a medical event instead of being honest about their failures. I also talk about how the federal government and the media were so intensely focused on winning the war that they simply did not care to be honest about what was happening to the health of the world. Hey there, you've been listening to a sample clip of Trickle Down. This is a side project that I've been working on. It's a 10-episode series about misinformation and bad ideas that flow from high authority sources. I think it's fascinating, And, I mean, it's a way for, I guess, me to explore the way people who should know what they're talking about don't always, actually. I'm not going to lie, some of it's kind of a bummer.
Starting point is 00:07:30 But if you're anything like me, that's actually more of a reason to dive into the subject matter. Like with the premium episodes of Q&N anonymous, all the episodes of Trickledown are available to people who support us through Patreon. Still the same five bucks a month. Double the extra content, same price that we've been doing since 2018. We are inflation-proof. and flesh proof, in flesh proof, and flesh proof.

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