QAA Podcast - Trump and The Flynns vs. The Law (E277)

Episode Date: May 5, 2024

Relatives of Michael Flynn tried and failed to sue CNN because they didn’t like being associated with QAnon (despite saying “Where we go one we go all” on camera.) The QAnon community reacts to Donald Trump’s ongoing legal woes. And Jesse Watters continues to prove that he’s the most Q pilled of all the Fox News hosts. REFERENCES CNN: Watch CNN Go Inside A Gathering of QAnon Followers https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/02/05/inside-qanon-culture-meeting-donie-osullivan-pkg-ctn-vpx.cnn Above The Law: Flynn Family’s SLAPP Suit Against CNN Slapped Down By Judge https://abovethelaw.com/2024/04/flynn-familys-slapp-suit-against-cnn-slapped-down-by-judge/ Media Matters: Fox News host Jesse Watters tells QAnon influencer he loves and follows him on social media: “We'll be in touch” https://www.mediamatters.org/qanon-conspiracy-theory/fox-news-host-jesse-watters-tells-qanon-influencer-he-loves-and-follows-him Subscribe for $5 a month to get an extra episode of QAA every week + access to ongoing series like Manclan, Trickle Down, Perverts and The Spectral Voyager: www.patreon.com/QAA Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (instagram.com/theyylivve / sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (https://pedrocorrea.com) https://qaapodcast.com/ QAA was formerly known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.

I think of it. If you're hearing this, well done, you've found a way to connect to the internet. Welcome to the QAA podcast, episode 277, Trump and the Flynn's versus the law. As always, we are your host, Jake Rockatansky, Julian Field, and Travis View. This week, we are finally entering the, I suppose, approximately eight months that are going to lead us into another presidential election where two of our problematic faves will be facing each other. We've got Trump, of course, and beautiful Joe Brandon, both of which at this point are extremely popular, and everybody loves it, and we're going to have a great time for some months now. And so we thought, hey, what was up with that whole Q&ON loving Trump thing,

and then Trump kind of playing to the Q&N crowd? And, I mean, these people who were so happy when Trump got elected and then had to create QAnon to kind of cope. You know, what are they thinking now about this reboot, this rematch. Like, have they yet decided that he's a black hat? We'll find out in this episode. We're also going to be catching up with the Flins, a series of different Flins. Of course, the head of the Hydra is Michael. And we're going to see what's up with him getting pissed off that everyone thinks he's

somehow kind of into QAnon or at the very least pandering to them. It turns out they are not happy that that has ever been claimed and certainly not happy that CNN has claimed it. And certainly not happy that CNN claimed it while using some of our footage and interviewing Travis view. I think that was actually the main issue is that platforming Travis view is like what they sued CNN for. Once again, we're here. We are the 11th arm of the tentacle in the background, providing footage, providing, you know, providing transcript, you know, just deep in the cut, as we always meant to be and as we will continue to be. We'll be investigating very important

things like, is Orange Hitler farting really nasty in the courtroom? And other really important American investigative journalism that we've come to be known in love for. We have a couple of other news hits, including this concept that the pro-Palestinian demonstrators on campuses across United States, but specifically at Columbia, are outside agitators or foreign interference or something, something. It's Russians, communists. I guess it's hard to just be like, it was the Jews. But that's kind of the vibe, you know, in this case, not as applicable. But yeah, the vibe is like, this can't just be students that are pissed off. They can't just be actually protesting.

This can't just be, you know, how a world in which we're allowed to protest, you know, government-funded genocide with our own tax dollars. That can't be the world we live in. We have to live in a world where people are infiltrating the good Americans that would otherwise be nice and quiet and eat their nice hamburgers quietly and not complain. The media should have never given, you know, couch sitters, intelligence agency language to play around with, like, op and infiltrate and bad actors and agitators because uh you know we tend to just parrot you know

the things that we hear uh you know the people who are seemingly in in a place of you know information authority uh who gives a shit cut all that wow yes oh my god here we are fuck it yeah hey cori could you just cut the whole episode corey just cut me just could just come to my house and bring something sharp and just cut me. Chop him up. Chop, chop Jacob, please. Feed me to the plant. Feed me to the plant. The last thing that we will be covering is the fact that Trump seems to be accelerating his retweets of Q&on people, just fucking going buck wild. He's no longer shy. I mean, why would he? He's on truth social. Although, you know, I'd argue that you can come back on Twitter now, man. Like, they're all reinstated. You could come and do a big, big disinformation do do. And then

that the liberal media would get pissed and we'd enter into a nice circus. I guess I'm just, I'm just, you know what? Yeah, I'm tired in advance for this year. It's going to be a nightmare. And I'm just so fucking sad that the two people we get to choose for potential president won't even debate each other. Can we not at least get the spectacle of watching these two dysfunctional brains like go head to head? Like to have the argument of who passed the loudest gas during the debates. Like we're going to miss on some of the best stuff.

So a bit of sadness and a bit of joy as we transition. into our first topic here, Helmed by Travis. Travis, take us, take us away, slap us away. So very recently on April 26, a judge slapped down a lawsuit from Jack Flynn and Leslie Flynn, the brother and sister law of Michael Flynn, which was filed against CNN. So the lawsuit was filed in response to a CNN report by a friend of the show, Donio Sullivan. The CNN report at issue aired in February of 2021. It was framed around in October 2020. the event called QCon Live, which we attended and reported on. The report opens with a series of short clips from the event, followed by Doni's

voiceover explaining that the footage was from a gathering of Q&N followers in Arizona just two weeks before November's election. The line that the Flynn's objected to said that, quote, an infamous Q&N slogan promoted by Trump's first national security advisor, Michael Flynn, which is absolutely true. He did say that. But here is a clip from that report. Where we go one, we go all. an infamous QAnon slogan promoted by Trump's first national security advisor, Michael Flynn.

Where we go one, we go all. And played as an anthem at this meeting of Trump supporters. Yeah, that was Jacob Chansley arriving in the back and like distracting from everybody on stage. Because everybody on stage is like a boring cue person who should probably just stick to being behind the computer. But Jacob comes in, you know, he's dressed to the nines. Everybody's distracted. People want pictures. There's pictures being taken in the corner of the room.

So I was taking some footage of that. and that ended up in the CNN report. I'm kind of sad that, like, I guess, I wasn't included in the suit. I feel a bit left out. Yeah, me too. I mean, I, yeah, you contributed to the report by sharing that footage with CNN. We got credit. It says QA, it says Q&A anonymous right in the report.

And also, it also featured an interview with, with myself. What? Yeah. I don't like that part. I'm kind of sad that more people didn't adopt Jacob Chansley's sort of style of dress. I think it would have been really fun if there was kind of, of like one faction of QAnon that was just, just like a group of barbarians, you know, you have your average, you have your average, like real estate dropout who's, you know, they're in like a puffy vest and, and, you know, they've got a sign, they got some flags. But then, like, over in the corner, there's just like a rowdy group of barbarians with like spears and bow and arrows.

They have like lizards cooking over the fire on like sticks. and they're walking up to trees and punching them and getting, like, fiber. Yeah, they're taming dinosaurs. They're riding in on velociraptors. They're turning on each other. Yeah, they're really, that's true. There's not enough of a Mad Max. Anyways, Travis, I guess, will play the footage of himself he's included.

Also in attendance was Travis Vue, a host of the QAnonanonymous podcast, who has been tracking this conspiracy theory for years. What my big takeaways for attending the Q conference, is that the Qaeda movement is so much more than just the predictions or the feeling like you're getting inside information. It's about the community. Oh, I was so young. A young Travis view on top of his game before he had become tired, jaded.

Before his hair was three times as long and his entire beard was also 10 times as long. Yeah, you can definitely tell that was a younger year. Yeah, Travis has actually become the barbarian faction. Yeah, I am older and hairier now. So the lawsuit claim that this report was somehow the famatory to Jack and Leslie Flynn, which is a ludicrous claim. The summary judgment, which dismissed the claims, know that even if the report did call the Flynn's QAnon followers, that is merely an opinion and therefore protected speech. The court assumes without deciding that the video was capable of implying that the Flynn's were QAnon followers. But calling the Flynn's quote unquote QAnon followers was, in defamation law speak, an opinion.

opinion. And an opinion is, quote, actionable only if it implies the allegation of undisclosed defamatory acts as the basis for the opinion. So the judge in this, in this judgment, even referenced me and it called me a commentator. Perhaps one could argue, though the Flins don't, that the report itself gives, quote, QAnon follower some fixed meaning. But it doesn't. At one point in the video, a commentator says QAnon is about community. See, this nameless commentator? This nameless commentator. Some judge had to like watch you. He had to watch me. And then he goes on to actually repeat the full quote I said in that video.

Now, do I deserve credit for helping CNN get the lawsuit dismissed? You could argue that. Now, do I deserve more credit than friend of the show Mike Rothschild who actually worked with the defense team and provided expert testimony? I would not say that personally. If other people choose to say that, they could. But, you know. This is a weird.

Travis is being weird. No, but, you know, all our old. old colleagues, all our old colleagues, you know, who have been in the trenches, so to speak, you know, since the very beginning, you know, five, five or six years ago, you know, they've all blossomed, you know, if we had sat in, you know, Julian, your old apartment with Mike Rothschild and, you know, said, oh, by the way, you know, in three or four years, you're actually going to be working alongside CNN to help them with a lawsuit. We all would have laughed. I mean, that would have sounded as crazy as a, you know, a QAnon conspiracy in it of itself.

So it really has been such a weird, such a weird sort of journey. I think for everybody that's been, you know, in this space and studying this, you know, for the last half decade. Yeah, we're all in the trenches, like Jake said. We're soldiers and this is actually an existential fight. And additionally, yeah, if blossoming, if by blossoming you mean shriveled, yeah, we're shriveling. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, existentially. No, others are doing fine. But according to the news, we're somewhat of a big deal.

So I thought there was really interesting section in the judgment on why courts generally don't like determining whether someone truly believe something and why this is especially tricky when it comes to QAnon. At its root, whether someone is a follower is deep in the political thicket. Quote, when used in political discourse, terms of relation and association often have meanings that are debatable, loose and varying, rendering the relationships they describe insusceptible of proof, of truth, or falsity. Similarly, the Flins tried to show that QAnon has a belief system by quoting the reporter's testimony that, quote,

QAnon has become like a religion. But that comparison precisely illustrates the problem. All the difficulties discussed above show why courts are loath to decide who is a true believer. In parentheses, it is not within the judicial can to question the centrality of particular beliefs or practices to a faith or the validity of particular litigants' interpretations of those creeds. Finally, there is also a unique twist to QAnon followership. It is indisputed that Q instructed his followers to deny being QAnon followers. If a QAnon follower is asked under oath whether she is a QAnon follower, what is the honest response? And how should the jury interpret it? This problem feels a bit like trying to hold a trial on opposite day. Saying yes violates a supposed

tenet of followership. Does that mean she's not a true believer, making her answer untrue? If she answers no, is she really lying? After all, Q told her that, quote, there is no QAnon. Exactly how one untangles this brain teaser isn't dispositive. It's just another point of ambiguity. So yeah. So you're right. This is quite, quite the paradox because Q instructed followers to say that there is no QAnon. If you're asked, if they're, if they're a QAnon follower and they say, yes, that means they're not truly a Qaeda follower who follows the exact words of the cue drops. Oh my God. So Michael Flynn is his own grandpa. I think this is yes. And also Catch 17. This is a catch-classy, a catch-17.

So the court notes that even if one could verify whether or not someone was a cue in the follower, then the claim still wouldn't be defamatory. This is because it's a conclusion based on disclosed facts. Calling the Flynn's Q&on followers was a conclusion based on the following disclosed non-defamatory facts. One, the Flynn stood with Michael Flynn, their right hand raised as he recited the phrase, where we go on, we go all. And two, the phrase was a Q&on slogan. The Flins don't fight these facts.

On the first part, they haven't challenged the clip's authenticity. As to the second, they say they didn't know that the phrase was a QAnon slogan. But that's irrelevant. They don't contest that the phrase was in fact a QAnon slogan, and true statements are non-defamatory. The Flins disagree that the video includes a factual basis for there being Q&N followers. Yet this argument is in tension with the most basic part of their case, that a reasonable viewer would infer from the video that they were QAnon followers.

The reasonable viewer must have some factual basis to draw the inference. It is not enough that they merely appeared in a video, that also included QAnon followers. Several reporters and news anchors appear in the video, but it's obvious from context that video isn't calling them QAnon followers. And as noted above, the Flynn's admit that they were, quote, friendly and partly, quote,

aligned with QAnon, often posting or reposting QAnon-related content. Yeah, this sounds like it's going to end with, like, a math problem. Like, like, how many QAnon followers were traveling at 60 miles per hour on the train? It's legal speak. Whoever wrote this had like a tenth of a gym beam,

they were in a smoky room with a single desk, lamp and they had the taste of a of a guns barrel in their mouth and so on the basis of all of that the motion for summary judgment by CNN was granted the case is dismissed and so you can call you know the Flynn siblings Q and on followers all you like it's not defamatory I guess Michael Flynn can go back to complaining that McDonald's coffee burned his dick that would certainly be more interesting yeah come on give me some fucking I want to hear about factual basis in relationship to how fucked up Flynn's dick is

after he poured coffee on it. Well, Jake, you know, that sounds like another huge win. A huge win. Lots of progress in a war. Nobody understands with goals that we cannot define. Could you also maybe add to this confusion by telling us whether Trump

is going to monopoly jail? Well, he's certainly holding a lot of monopoly cash that he's probably going going to have to fork over. He, you know, made the mistake of buying all four railroads. Yeah, that's a classic one. So for my segment, I wanted to check in on QAnon promoters past and present to hear them weigh in on what they believe is really happening in Trump's hush money trial. Now, for those who haven't been following this closely, a very quick recap. A little over

a year ago, Trump was charged by New York's district attorney Alvin Bragg with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. awesome charge. This was related to fudging business records to hide payments made to Stormy Daniels so that she would remain silent about her and the president's extramarital affairs. Now, I was a little confused about the trial that's now taking place. I kind of thought that this was maybe the Jack Smith case because I saw so many people referring to this case as the election interference trial, but that's not the case. You know, Jack Smith's trial is going to deal with January 6 and election interference, but there were no charges of election interference. But there were no charges of

election interference in this particular case. Now, obviously, if Trump has found guilty of these crimes, he would have committed them with the purpose of attempting to influence the 2016 election, i.e. by, you know, not having a damaging story about his affair go public, but it's important to note that in this specific case, election interference is not among the 34 charges. There are a number of crimes that do fall under election interference, such as voter intimidation or promise of an appointment by a candidate, but the only charges Trump is currently facing is falsifying business records in the first degree. And I know that this sounds pedantic, but I was confused, so maybe other people were confused as well. I mean, it's like the problem with these trials is that they don't

have the juice of the Mueller investigation. That was so much simpler. That was so much sexier. Yeah, it was international espionage. Yeah, it was cooler. It was the follow. So obviously, you know, the media was all over it. First of all, it was like just one investigation. And then like it was like, people were following it pretty easily. And, um, but all of this, all this. All this. like business dealings and like it's like it's just you get lost in the weeds you zone out a bit yeah they spun like an HBO show into like jerry springer this fucking sucks it's like every day it's like some terrible courtroom fucking drawing of trump and someone being like i hear he's farting and people think it's disgusting and so of course you know while the corporate

media you know kind of obsessed over minute details about every potential jury member, I was curious as to how the QAnon community was reacting to this trial. After all, for all of QAnon and Trump's own blustering, the only person who faced any legal consequences as a result of Trump becoming president is Trump himself. They put fucking Manafort in jail, man. You're forgetting about old Paul? Yeah, well, also, yes, the people surrounding Trump. Sure, sure. Yeah. But, yeah, but Hillary Clinton is still walking free, still doing interviews.

So, yeah. She's free and she's, she's tweeting. She's getting lots of engagement, you know, seems to be sort of enjoying, you know, the show, you know, popcorn out, so to speak. Yeah, she's enjoying. She's collaborating with Manuel Lynn Miranda on a new version of his awful musicals so that we can get Biden reelected. It's really cool.

Yeah, this is, yeah, Lynn Emmanuel Miranda is a deep state op. It's Lynn Manuel, okay? Don't take away his Latin. X roots. The Hamilton guy. The Hamilton guy. The worst goatee on earth. You know, I think he's handsome.

People tell me I look like him. I've been confused for him before. So he and I are kindred spirits in a way. We both rap. I think you look more like Gary Cooper, like you're a quiet kind of stalwart American type. So one thing that I noticed, as I watched all of the old heads, provide their take on the ongoing trial,

is how subdued all of these influencers seem compared to when we found them five or so years ago. I don't know, maybe the same goes for us. But there's so many far-right media outlets pretending to be news organizations that many of the original Q&ONN influencers such as Tracy Beans or In The Matrix have essentially just become clip shows

where they watch Newsmax or OAN coverage and just sort of comment on that. It's like their own twisted version of MSNBC talking heads. You know, they dress up and, you know, they sit behind a desk, they sort of, you know, wear suits and ties and, you know, they have tickers going on

under the screen and all of the stuff, little windows with clips. I mean, it's, it's all, it's, it's so less rowdy and, and more buttoned up, you know, to look like these kind of like professional sort of, you know, shows that you would see, you know, at like 11.30 p.m. on, you know, Fox News. They're making little plastic burgers in the bake light. So the general vibe seems to have shifted from the idea that Trump is this like untouchable guy and that he'll dodge everything the deep state tries to throw at him. And instead, that it's an inevitability that Donald Trump will be thrown in jail.

Here's a clip from the X-22 reports coverage of Trump's ongoing criminal cases. Once again, they're using a case. They have no evidence. And the statute of limitations has run out. So everyone realizes this. But again, the reason why they're having the trials is to do what? It's to convict him. It's to throw him into prison.

why else would you have the trials? Remember, the first couple of trials was to have him pay. All right, let's make him pay an exorbitant amount. Is he stepping out? Is he bowing out yet? No, he's not. Okay, now we're going to bring in the criminal trials. And the criminal trials, they're going to put him behind bars. This is why Trump came out with the truth that says, yes, I'm ready to go to the clink. What does the clink mean? It means jail, and it's a short period of time. So I do believe that Trump is prepared and ready to actually go behind bars. And what do you think this is going to do. This is going to make Trump more powerful. How? Because the people are going to see this and the people are going to rally around him. And think about all the merchandise he's

going to sell. Oh, my God. So this is not going to work. The people aren't going to drop him. And actually, the fake news, they said the quiet part out loud about him going to jail, which we'll be discussing a little bit. But remember, when you're starting to look at all this and you watch everything that is happening, this is all about the 2024 elections. Trump is building his army to go against the deep state players. The deep state is importing their army to go up against we, the people. It is a war. Right now it's an information war. The deep state would love it to be a physical war. And they will try. They will try very, very hard. And they will try to bring us into World War III. We can see that this has already begun. And I do believe both sides are using it for different purposes.

That is so awesome. To think that Trump is getting more powerful if he goes to jail, that he wants to go to jail, that he's like this brave man. That's the thing with these guys is at this point, it would be better for them if Trump did go to jail. Like, he's not that useful for them as, like, just some fucking doofus, like, sitting in a courtroom and farting or whatever. It's like, they need him to, like, be in there doing, like, one-handed push-ups, getting stronger so he can fight the deep state when he gets out.

But this all just, like, stinks of fucking, this, it's like, we're eight years in. You can, you, you thought the war came and went or like, what are we talking about anymore? First of all, I do love the idea. And I actually do see the logic in it, that the power and the reward of merch sales is much greater than the punishment of a small amount of prison time. I actually believe that. I believe in this country, it's like the clout to, you know, prison time ratio can sort of fall on the side to the benefit of clout. You know, I feel like, you know, if you got a few months in prison, but then all of a sudden, his, like, his merch sales increased by 10 times because all of the people who are like maybe, who are. Trump supporters wanted to support him even more because of this.

You know what? I buy that theory. Once Trump has done his time, like his album's going to be sick because he's got like real street cred now that they flung him in the clink. He has to explain the clink because Trump is essentially like prison mic from the office. The clink. It's so funny that they went from, you know, Trump is like setting up this web of 5D traps to ensnare the deep state and sending them all to Guantanamo Bay to, well, it's going to be good if he goes to jail because he'll sell more merch.

Fuck, man. It's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a long way to fall. But also worth noting that, that the QAnon believers also think that this is an election interference trial, but not in the, you know, not in the same way. Awesome. It's also so funny to me that how if Trump goes to jail, it'll make him more powerful. But if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama went to jail, it would be, you know, the great awakening amongst liberals and, and that their heroes are criminals.

You know, different things happen to different people if they go. to jail, I guess. I was curious to see whether any mainstays from the Q&on baking communities were proposing any sort of 5D chess takes about the ongoing trial, and to be perfectly honest, they were few and far between. Most of the influencers are essentially just complaining that the deep state's energy is endless when it comes to creating roadblocks to keep Trump out of the Oval Office in 2025. It'll work out for Trump, of course, but they appear to be totally exhausted following the very real and very plentiful amount of cases surrounding Donald Trump. Yeah, of course they are. The only people who like feel that they're still eating a meal

when they read about this shit are like the most rabbit-hold psychos. I popped over to Jordan Sather's page to see if maybe he had some kind of explanation of how this was all going to work out in Trump's favor. But, you know, because after all, I mean, he was, you know, the whiteboard guy. You know, he was a big 5D chess proponent. He talked about it in a lot of his videos. And, you know, I was hoping to maybe, you know, hear what the theory is here, but it appears that Jordan just has other things going on. Welcome, friends. Good to see you again.

I know it's been a couple of weeks since I've posted any kind of proof of life on the internet. So here it is. Here's your proof of life. I've been going through some stuff the past couple of weeks, and I had an opportunity fall into my lap that I'm going to take that will hopefully allow my internet journalism, of internet shit posting work, whatever you want to call it, just be a lot less stressful for me. So let me explain. Over the past couple of weeks, I've been moving. That's one thing.

Unfortunate situation, the owner of the house I was in had to sell his house. Not my fault, not his fault. Shitty situation for the both of us, but I had to get out of there. And that was rough. That was a really rough move, especially being up in the Idaho mountains and dealing with a freaking bed bug attack, like 150 bites all over my body, my scalp and my face and like Adam's apple, tons down my back, out of my butt cheeks, it was bad. So the move is almost done, almost completed. All the hard parts are pretty much done, almost there. And while I was moving in the middle of it, got a call from an old business colleague of mine from even before my internet journalism days and he offered me the opportunity to basically

build the website infrastructure and run online sales for a supplement business something i've been doing for a few years with my own so it kind of just became this perfect opportunity where i have these skill sets he needs these skill sets and i molded over for a couple of days and i ended up agreeing to take that opportunity now with me doing that I'm not going to stop doing my internet video journalism, whatever work, definitely not going to stop doing it because I still very much enjoy it. But I'm at the point now where I've been doing the internet stuff for seven and a half, almost eight years now, about seven and a half years. And there's been high points, there's been low points, but right now it's getting mentally and physically draining sitting in front of a computer for like 10. hours a day. Wow. I've never related to him so much and I'm really sad to hear that those

amazing butt cheeks are ravaged. You know, I, I am genuinely, and I mean this seriously, I am genuinely happy for Jordan. He's accepted a normal job that's using his website building and marketing skills. He's realizing the negative effects that staring at a computer screen all day is having on his life. And I really do not wish a bedbug infestation on anybody. They are incredibly hard to get rid of and super annoying and I'm sure there are listeners out there who have had you know who have had this happen

and yeah it's not fun yeah his Adam's apple that's that's sad that would be sad on your ankles that's the worst is when it's on your ankles and toes and it's just oh it's in the worst places have you had a bed bug thing Jake have you had a bed bug thing ever? No

me neither Travis you ever had bedbugs no I've never had bad bugs but they sound awful. You guys ever lived in like the mountains of Idaho? Mountains of Idaho, no. But Travis could probably get some good pictures up there. I'm sure it sounds nice. I'd love to visit Idaho one of these days.

But I'm amazed that Jordan Sather like five years ago, he was like, oh, this is the Great Awakening, talking about disclosure and doing UFO shit. And now it's like, ah, fuck, my body's all bitten up. I'm kind of sore. My eyes are tired. He's talking like an old man. just sick of shit. Yeah.

Yeah. I relate. I relate. Please, Jordan, take me with you. I'll sell supplements. Let me live in a corner of your fucking bed bug infested new home. Just give me a little corner in a sleeping bag. Just give me a bean bag and put me in it.

He also goes on in the video basically to say that, you know, to make it as a Qadon influencer, you know, you have to sort of, you know, do all of this click baity stuff and, you know, kind of lie to your audience. and trick them into believing, you know, even more bizarre conspiracy theories. And he just, you know, he just doesn't want to be that guy. And so this is really amazing to watch this evolution, you know, from him being one of the most popular and vocal QAnon supporters and bakers to then becoming, you know, somewhat of a skeptic within the community and calling out, you know, fellow influencers, conspiracies that,

you know, Jordan believed were, you know, making the community look stupid, to kind of just, you know, in a way, sort of, you know, making it not a priority in his life to focus on, you know, his career and, you know, to spend less time online. I mean, it just goes to show you that it can happen, you know, through no fault of anybody necessarily that some people just get tired of doing this over and over and over again. Yeah, it's, it's awesome. He's going to be able to, like, sit down with his grandkids and be like, You know, before your grandpa started selling colloidal silver to people called Patriot 76, I used to be a fucking idiot.

I used to go online every fucking day and say a bunch of dumb shit. And none of it came true. And then one day I got tired. So, you know, this leaves me thinking, is there anybody sort of high up? Because, you know, there are a lot of people on Twitter that are, you know, sort of throwing around various theories. But, you know, I'm looking at the lieutenants. You know, was there anybody high up in the Q influencer chain? who did have some kind of explanation as to how the most recent Trump trial was a carefully laid trap for the deep state.

So, naturally, I checked in on Brian Cates, who rose to popularity as sort of the Seth Abramson of QAnon, who would write these massive threads that carefully explained how everything that seemed like bad news for Trump was actually a perfectly executed op to expose the deep state and awaken the people. And recently on his Twitter, after another QAnon account, Awakened Outlaw, expressed disappointment that Mark Hamill, who played Luke Skywalker, as well as voiced the Joker in the Batman animated series, expressed his excitement for Trump to finally face some kind of legal consequences. Cates quote tweeted with a theory of his own. And Travis, would you mind reading this? So Awakened Outlaw wrote, you know, is it just me or did Skywalker turn out to be one of the biggest douchebags in history?

And Cate's replies, what if he's being used, willingly or not, to drive eyeballs slash attention. of a big segment of the public who is not MAGA or is anti-Trump to pay attention to the farce as about to unfold during this trial in Manhattan. Trump gets stronger, the more people are aware of this shit show. Hmm. Yes, of course. I got to say that it really, it is sad and pathetic to listen to anybody across, like in these kind of online political discussions, try to describe either of the presidential candidates

this year as getting stronger. Guys, they are not getting. stronger. They are entering their twilight. The DMT is starting to leak out. But nevertheless, you know, it could be possible that the white hats are using the power of the force

to unwittingly rope Mark Hamill into exposing the sham trial in front of every pair of liberal eyes and Star Wars fans alike. I love this American. This is very American. Is it just me or did Skywalker turn out to be one of the biggest douchebags in history? That's a fucking

character. You turn out to have politics different than mine? Well, it turns out the thing that I enjoyed and that passes his culture is not also parroting my specific issues. Oh, oh, a cleansing fire upon it all! Now, of course, this theory only works if the trial turns out to have zero consequences for Trump, which is possible, but with 34 felony counts, odds are he's probably going to catch a couple of those.

You know, I would assume, maybe not, who knows. But the general sentiment amongst various cue-pilled influencers is that the trial is both a sham intended to hurt Trump's chances in the 2024 election, but also will serve as a wake-up call for people watching the trial, which will give Trump a major advantage during the election. It is worth mentioning that the falsifying business records trial isn't the only case that Trump is facing. There's also the civil fraud case brought by Letitia James, the New York Attorney General. Now, this was due to Trump lying about his wealth on financial statements in order to secure loans and make deals. He was found liable in the lawsuit and was ordered to pay $355 million plus interest in addition to having his business continue to operate under court supervision.

This is a man who has lived on credit his whole life. What the fuck does he care? It's like, yeah, put numbers on the fucking balance sheet. Who gives the shit? And the judge just, there was just a recent hearing where the judge lowered the bond to like $174 million or something like that. Plus, I'm sorry, if there's any rich idiot that will probably survive on less money, it's Trump. He eats fucking McDonald's.

Like, he's not going to get stronger, but his diet probably won't change if he loses all his money. Yeah, it's not like he's going from, you know, eating surf and turf to, you know, getting three McRibs and a large fry. But instead, you know, I mean, if anything, maybe he'll complain about fast food prices going on. up? I don't know. Yes. Yes. Yes. The fact is, no matter what you do to him, his brain is never going to touch reality. It's never, they're never going to get the thing that they want, which is Trump with that look in his eyes that he finally gets it, that he sees it all. It's not going to happen, folks. He's drifting off. He's already, you're not, he's not even there. He's not even

there. You can't hurt him. He's not even there. And because of most of the news surrounding Trump these days revolves around all of these various legal cases. It's forced OGQAnon influencers to become legal analysts, which is unfortunate. So here's Bill Mitchell, commenting on the outcome of the Leticia James lawsuit. Oh, he's doing rough. He's doing as rough as I am. He looks more cell shaded than ever. Eventually the cell shading, like, you know, you can only do so much filler. It's going to come in and creep into your eyes and hollie you out. No, I mean, he looks like a Borderlands three character. He does 100%.

The court has already found that he engaged in years of fraud. This is what Letitia James said. The court has already found that he engaged in years of fraud to falsely inflate his net worth and unjustly rich himself. No, the court did not find that. He did not justly enrich himself because the bank said they made the loans based upon their due diligence, not his financial statements. She's lying.

She's lying about that. And his organization, James added the $464 million judgment plus interest against Donald Trump and other defendants still stands. Of course, until he goes to appeal, and it's going to be wrecked on appeal. Yeah, yeah, just get him, but I'm going to... He can't even speak. He's so bad. He has, like, a giant impact font just, like, like, floating behind him across the screen.

And remember, this guy denounced Trump. This guy denounced Trump, like, not that long ago. And then, and then reemerged, you know, once again confirming his support for the former president. Oh, man, this guy, he is just sloppy. I love it. He's, like, in the Muppets when they, you know, they cut to... animal? Awesome.

So yeah, I mean, it's a real struggle session for a lot of these guys. And I made a note here that Mitchell here reminds me of my 2001 Subaru going 80 miles per hour on a Santa Barbara freeway after I had neglected to change the oil for months. It blew up. So, right, he hasn't changed his oil? Mm-hmm. Yeah. He's running hot.

That thermometer needle is. is starting to go from from the middle to the age. He doesn't look like he's getting a lot of like sunshine and fluids. No, no, no. Didn't he move to Florida? He's getting, he's, he's, I mean,

it's just staying inside. Staying inside is a new pastime. Yeah, because like all these guys were just terminally online, getting addicted to social media, just posting, posting, posting, and reading posts. And then over the years,

that catches up to you, man. You can't, you can't live like that forever. And then you turn into like, you know, like, Jordan, Sather, just talking about bedbugs. This guy just, again, looking like he's cell-shaded, but also decaying somehow. Yeah, yeah.

It's no way to live. He's looking like the bedbugs are from a science fiction movie, and they don't just bite. They actually burrow into your skin and embed themselves in your brain and start controlling all of your bodily functions. It feels like a lot of these guys, you know,

just having you kind of run us through some of these old classic characters from our show, it just feels like they're fucking CGIing Harrison Ford into a movie, but he's like too old. Or like, it's that feeling you get when you watch the Irishman and you realize like this, this kind of frail frame that like De Niro, it just doesn't work. It's just something, yeah, everything is, I mean, I get it, dude. I'm with it.

Oh, God. So another reason why Q&ON remains tragically relevant in the, I guess, a national discussion, is that Trump is constantly amplifying. QAnon content on a social media network through social through his account. So according to Media Matters, he has, he's promoted Q&N content from Q&N followers hundreds of times. Awesome. He's still doing it like fucking yesterday.

As he might have done it today. I haven't checked. In fact, he recently shared a video from a user named Ultra MAGA Rocky, 0017, 17, of course, is a Q reference. This video opens with this bold declaration taken from a Q drop, what it says, we are witnessing the destruction of the old guard. The video then lists nations and individuals who have, according to the video, submitted to Trump, implying that they have bowed to Trump's authority.

Among the messages displayed in the video are proclamations asserting Trump's status as the people's president and promising that the best is yet to come. Of course, the video also includes the phrase, where we go one, we go all. So now, normally, under normal circumstances, the fact that a major presidential candidate in some polls is even leading is actively promoting extremist conspiracist content on their social media account would be a big story it'd be something people talk about but the thing is that this is something that trump has done for so often and for so long it's because it becomes so boring he's like he's he's so focused on it he just does it so often that's just a it's dog bites man stories you're not going to hear about it for more mainstream

conventional sources because like how often can you talk about this over and over and over again it's like Trump is like promoting this batshit conspiracy theory still after so many years before it gets tedious. They should put in a function on truth social where every time you retweet, it takes like just a snapshot from your phone so you could always just see his pants gathered around his ankles as he takes, as he takes like his third or fourth shit of the day. Another story. So this is something that was originally reported by Alex Kaplan at Media Matters.

Now perhaps you remember Jesse Waters. So he's a popular Fox News star and host of the show Jesse Waters Prime Time. He took over the slot from Tucker Carlson after he departed from Fox News. And now Jesse Waters has the top-rated show on that network. Millions tune in every weekday night to see Jesse Waters and what he has to say. And that's a problem because Jesse Waters has a history of being friendly with QAnon. In fact, in 2019, Jesse Waters even aired a segment in which he displayed text messages from his mom. And in that segment, he revealed that his mom chided him for relying on QAnonon.

Pay attention to your sources. Q. Anon. Oh, my God. Completely destroyed by his own mom. I love that. I love that, you know, is presumably, you know, older boomer mom is actually much more level-headed than he is. In July of 2020, Jesse Waters praised QAnon during his show, saying, quote, they've also uncovered a lot of great stuff when it comes to Epstein and when it comes to the deep state, I never saw Q as dangerous as Antifa. And then, of course, this is all bullshit.

But after public backlash, Waters released a statement saying, quote, I mentioned the conspiracy group Q&N, which I don't support or believe in. My comments should not be mistaken for giving credence to this fringe platform. I don't know. Your mom says otherwise, buddy. Yeah, right? This sounds a lot like he made the statement after some corporate pressure, you know, from producers and shit. Unfortunately, like as Alex Capulet, media matters revealed,

there's still evidence that Jesse Waters is still, to this day, very much into QAnon. So what happened was that Jeffrey Pedersen, also known as In The Matrix, major Q&M podcaster, met up with Jesse Waters for a book signing. And while signing a copy of his book for Pedersen, Waters told Pedersen and others around him,

quote, I love In The Matrix, adding, I follow this guy. He said that Pedersen's got all this information and you're very good. And at the end of the video, he told Pedersen, keep up the good work,

we'll be in touch. So here's the video that In The Matrix broadcast. I love in the Matrix. I love you. I follow this guy. Yeah. You guys. This guy's got all this in for me.

This goes a big deal. Here we go. Keep up the good work. Thank you. We'll be in touch. Boom. Why are they playing Pratfall jazz? I don't know.

This is going on. They're replaying this for their audience to show that, like, I guess Jeffrey Pedersen, like, a lot of his content is just like, see, people like me. See? It's true. But this was, this was a big one. This is, again, the most watch. dude on Fox News, basically highly praising in The Matrix, saying he watches them.

They'll be in touch. Yeah. It's a boom. It's a big boom. That is a big boom. You know, one would hope that there'd be some daylight between Q and on the Fox News. But, again, by all appearances, the most popular current hosts on Fox News is very cue-pilled, despite previous denunciations.

In The Matrix, this guy's got the wettest Yale in all of Florida. I was watching a bunch of recent Matrix shows to see if I could find any, any 5D, you theories from them. And the most recent one, he's just complaining about Alex Kaplan over at Media Matters writing about this, being like, what's so wrong? They're so mad that a celebrity really likes me. Like, what's the problem with that? Yeah, it's not illegal to like me a lot and say I'm cool. Now, to end this episode, I also want to talk about another bizarre conspiracy theory, which is that pro-Palestinian protests at universities are somehow astroturfed or inauthentic or controlled by some unnamed shadowy entity or outside agitators.

We talked a bit about this on the last episode, and this claim keeps popping up because this accusation has been made several times, not just by randos on Twitter, but like people in positions of authority. And so far, as of this recording, no one has presented any substantial evidence that this is true. So recently, police officers in Reich Year arrested dozens of pro-Palestinian demonstrators at Columbia University in Manhattan on Tuesday night and cleared a building of protesters

that they had seized about 20 hours earlier. Shortly afterwards, the NYPD deputy commissioner of public information, Tariq Shepard, appeared on the MSNBC show Morning Joe. On that show, Shepard brandished a chain and bike lock and stated falsely that's not the kind that's used by students. Tell us about this change. Yeah, so when we will enter Hamilton Hall,

this is not what students bring to school okay this is what professionals bring to campuses and universities these are heavy industrial chains that were locked with bike locks and this is what we encountered on every door inside a hamilton hall and so in order for our emergency services group to enter into the building they had to first cut through these chains yeah yeah bike locks and chains that is that is some fucking high grade motor equipment i mean like even the like even the fucking NYPD is doing this like you know op stuff so a lot of people point out in social media that similar chains and locks are promoted to students by columbia university public safety to prevent theft one chain with a bike lock costs about 85 dollars which is not which is not

fucking you know professional op money it's like i don't understand like i only even understand what the claim that's being made here are like are there like only special locks and chains the only professional chaos agents have access to. Is there a special store that the outside agitator people can go to or what? As if college students don't already know, you know, what effective chains are to keep their bikes from getting stolen. Do you know how many bikes got stolen for me in my lifetime? I once got stolen in high school and three got stolen in college. Yeah.

And now with the resources that you have where you can look on Amazon or in this case, just look at the school guidelines for, you know, effective bite locks so your shit doesn't. doesn't get stolen, that this is somehow, some kind of like spec ops sort of military tactic is absolutely insane. Yeah, I've stolen stuff from Jake with like bubble gum and a paper clip. It's just so easy. You just put like a pie on a windowsill or something. Yeah, there's like a lot of different ways you can get to Jake and get his stuff. So that's a word to the wise out there. But no, this is so funny. And you know, this is just like what happens every single time, right? You can't just be against a bunch of students incense that we are sponsoring genocide. It has to be something

deeper, more malevolent. They have to be doing some form of violence. The police are under threat. And this is coming from the NYPD who constantly published photos of what looks like a rusted musket from like pirates of the Caribbean and they're like, we confiscated this. Or like the most ugly bag of shake that was probably going to be used to like fill some specialized pillow. And they're like, we did a drug bust. So yeah, you, I mean, you have to victimize yourself. You have to show that you're up against someone really tough. And this big golden chain, ooh, it clanks when he carries it around on the desk. I mean, it's all fucking theater, you pussies. I feel like people, in past generations, they, you know, they dismissed youth protesting by saying,

oh, they're just dumb kids. They don't know what they're talking about. For some reason, you can't do that anymore. You can't just, you can't just appeal to the student's naivete to be dismissive of their demands, be dismissive of what they're protesting. You have to take it to a new level. You have to say, oh, no, no, no, no, they're actually, they're actually outside agitators. They're professionals, you know, they're operators who are know exactly what they're doing in some way, and it's not authentic. There's something manufactured about it, and that, for some reason, discredits them. It's bizarre.

A student approaches a door with, you know, a kind of average U-lock, and an operator, you know, parts the crowd and, you know, produces, you know, this heavy duty. And he's like, step aside, kid. I'm here. I'm here on behalf of George Sorrow. Yeah, no, it's like, it's amazing because if you look at the actual footage, a lot of the time, it's just like they're beating, macing, and arresting students. They pushed a professor, like a kind of elderly woman to the fucking ground for just, like,

talking to them. You know, obviously, you got to build a better fucking narrative. And right now, the narrative is not going great. It is not going great. So they have to invent more victimization so that we, like, somehow our brains don't pay attention into the fact that they are protesting the military industrial complex, that they are protesting this giant geopolitical empire that's included Israel, that we're willing as a government, not just to turn a blind eye, but to provide the weapons for a genocide if it's a country

we like and we think is a geostrategic partner. And then we're going to spin up all these fucking culture war points and all of these like, you know, bike chain police announcements so that it doesn't look as bad as what it is. But I really have to say that you don't even need to be a lefty. Like, younger people are just naturally, you know, they look at what's happening in Palestine and they can see it for what it is. They don't have all these old conceptions. So they're fighting a losing war and they know it. I mean, they're fighting a winning war in terms of they have the guns. They have the violence. They can arrest people. They can fuck people's lives up. They can, you know, snuff this stuff out by force and by violence. But they can't fucking win

the argument because the argument is so clearly a one-sided and insane argument that gets more and more insane as like the bodies pile up as the horrors of wanton civilian massacres and genocides occur on a starving population as children recently born starved to death in cribs there's just you're you're just uh yeah it's much better to just have some guy come out and talk about the chain you know it's like let's talk about this chain it's like he's literally jangling keys in front of the american audience that's what he's doing he thinks you're all fucking dogs he had to bring it with him into the news studio so uh you you know, to make a point.

It's like whenever has a law enforcement officer, you know, been instructed to bring the weapon or an instrument of, of criminality into the fucking studio, like it's show and tell and kindergarten. I would love to bike lock, let's just say, a lot of these people. I would love to secure them against theft is all I have to say about a lot of these people and ditis in general. Yeah, I would like to say that I hope their bikes get stolen. Wow, that's going to... Holy shit, Jake. Come on. We all get sued.

You're encouraging. You're encouraging crime on the podcast. All right, all right. Corey, bleep that out. Leave that out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But bleep it now. Yeah, bleep it now.

Right now. Like, bleep it now. Like, I mean, like, just play a beep sound now, but leave what Jake said. Don't worry about it, Corey. We figure this all out, okay? Just edit. Just edit good. God, fucking damn it, Corey. No, no, no, Julian.

I'm sick of this shit. Just having a fucking meltdown. God, I hate to end the show on a bummer note, but I received it. You know, I really need to stop. Like, emails just come straight to my phone. You know, like, you have the little pop-up and shit, and I'll get the pop-up for the email sent to the Q&O Anonymous thing. Someone fucking wrote into, like, bitch, about their being music under Travis's voice in the last episode, you know.

And I had to restrain myself. really hold back from just writing back fuck you. I really terribly wanted to because they were so fucking rude. Like, they literally ended the email by being like, if I wanted to listen to music, I'd listen to fucking music. And I was like, wow, that's so cool

to write in. I'm so glad that my phone can deliver that to my face in the morning. I just, you know, my life is hell and it's my fault. Like, notifications can be disabled. Julian, maybe it's time, maybe it's time for you to accept a position at your friend's company sort of building out the infrastructure

in marketing for supplements. Oh, yeah, I'm going to build an infrastructure to find all these people writing in and to find... I like when music goes under Travis's voice. Yes. It's kind of cool. You know, it makes him sound kind of, you know, he's got a real driving force instead of just, you know, just a sad sort of lamenting over the states of reality. It helps cover up that he's a liar and a fraud. And this liar and fraud recommends that you...

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Welcome, listener to episode one of the Travis View podcast, the defense of Travis as told by ChatGPT with music in the background episode. As always, I am your host, AI, Travis View. So today, I

asked my good friend ChatGPT to write a short bit on why I am not a liar or a fraud, as Julian has so kindly accused me of. The following is what was written. Quote, Travis Vue, known for his work in analyzing conspiracy theories, particularly those surrounding QAnon, has demonstrated a commitment to truth and integrity in his work.

Accusing him of being a liar and a fraud lacks substantial evidence and is likely rooted in misunderstanding or disagreement with his perspectives. Firstly, Travis Vue has consistently approached his analysis with a rigorous and evidence-based methodology. He meticulously dissects conspiracy theories, providing factual evidence and logical reasoning to debunk misinformation and shed light on the realities behind these narratives. His dedication to accuracy and thorough research is evident in his presentations and writings. Furthermore, views' contributions have been recognized and valued by reputable sources and organizations. He has been featured in interviews, documentaries, and articles by credible media outlets,

seeking insight into the phenomenon of conspiracy theories and their impact on society. Such recognition indicates that his work is respected and trusted within the field. Additionally, labeling someone as a liar and a fraud requires concrete evidence of deliberate deception or manipulation. Disagreement with Views' conclusions or interpretations does not automatically equate to dishonesty on his part. Healthy skepticism and critical analysis are essential, but baseless accusations only serve to undermine constructive discourse and inquiry. In conclusion, Travis Vue's track record of thorough research, dedication to truth, and recognition within the field speak volumes about his credibility and integrity. While it's essential to approach all information with a critical eye, unfounder. attacks on his character do not withstand scrutiny and are likely motivated by biases or

misunderstandings. Thanks for listening to another episode of the AI Travis View podcast. Smash that like button and hit subscribe. Or don't. I don't give a shit.