Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - Deadpool & Wolverine & Daniel’s Secret Notation System
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Great.
How are you doing, buddy?
I'm doing actually pretty good.
We're back at work.
That's exciting.
That feels good.
My work is in a different location now, which is tough, but I still am working from home
a couple of days a week, which is really nice, but I'm just like navigating.
Here's the deal.
When you start something brand new,
you fall into a pattern pretty quick.
And, or at least I do.
And so I know that within that first week,
if I don't have like a system in which I get to also do
all the things that I otherwise need to do,
like get my taxes ready for the end of the year
or work out, then I won't do it.
And so this whole past week, I've been going in my,
currently my commute altogether,
the gross of my commute is like two hours now.
So it's two hours of a day that I'm missing.
And I'm like, well, that was the workout.
I'm gonna have to figure this out.
And so I've been going to work, driving to work,
going to work all day, coming home,
not getting the children because now my wife has to shoulder that burden
because I'm just so far away.
Getting home at like six, eating dinner with them,
doing their homework, getting them to bed,
and then at like 9.15, going to the gym.
Yeah, that sucks.
And it sucks bad.
It sucks out loud.
It's so awful.
And it's not even like a romantic thing where like,
I'm going to the gym and I'm rocking, I'm alone. Where like, well, at least I'm like I'm still committed to the grind. No one else is here
But I'm closing it down the gyms fucking packed at 915 the gym from 915 to 11 sucks. I mean I
Have never been at the gym that late. I
really
Fell into a nice pattern of going to my gym every morning
There were a couple of days a week where I I take my wife
To the ferry that she takes to work and then I go from there to the gym
And even if I don't take her like I get up early and I like going to the gym and like knocking it out
before work we are now on hiatus, so I haven't had a
Work to do and part of me was like now I can just go to the gym whenever I want.
I can have a little morning, I could sip my coffee,
I could read my book and then I'll go to the gym around noon
or I'll go to the gym, made the tremendous mistake
of going to the gym around like four.
And that's full of youths, just like all youths
with their same stupid fucking Paul Miscael hair
and they're all crowding around
one bench and I'm nervous to be around them.
Wait, I have a question for you.
Those youths are there after their school program.
Are there backpacks all over the floor at your gym?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like, we solved this problem kids.
Like we have, there are lockers and stuff.
I will buy each one of you a little combination lock
so that you can come to the gym
and I don't have to trip over your backpacks
all over the place.
Man, I sound like an old man.
I didn't realize how accustomed I'd grown
to the morning gym clientele of very old men
and a couple of attractive women
who are trying to beat the crowds of horrible men.
That's my morning team.
We all keep to ourselves and it's great.
But when you go any other time and it's like,
oh, this is when the youths are here or this is where in like the series,
like bros are here and there was a guy, it's a smallest gym
and this is one of the times when I went at like 415 or so.
And we have two machines that are right next to each other and both machines have pull down
cables. So two people could theoretically be doing two cable things simultaneously. There's
enough machinery for both. And I went up and I saw a big man was occupying one of them
and doing things.
And I start to move like I'm going to the other one.
And then he stops what he's doing on that machine
and goes to the other cable machine
and is now occupying both of them.
Just like this one, I have the cables low
and that one I have the cables high.
And he sees me confused and he's like,
what do you need?
Do you need this?
I was like, no, I was stuttering like a maniac.
I was gonna use the cables over there
on the other machine that you've claimed.
And he was like, I've only got one more set
and doing supersets.
You could use that one now if you want.
I was like, no, I'll just wait.
He goes, no, I got one more set.
Just like work in there.
Just do whatever you want. And I said, no, I got one more set. Just like, just like work in there. Just do whatever you want.
And I said, no, I'm sorry.
I'm out of my mind.
And then I found a different corner to the gym,
completely changing whatever workout I was gonna do.
Just like, okay, I know I was gonna do this cable,
wood chopping thing,
but instead I guess I'm just gonna stretch in the corner.
It turns out I wanted to stretch today because I got scared talking to another person.
Get one more set, dude.
I know, but I did.
Let me just wait until his set is done.
But then I didn't even do that because even when his set is done, he was still in that area.
I was like, I can't, I can't come back to this guy
because what if he is like, hey, take your headphones off.
What do you mean you're out of your mind?
Are you okay?
And then I'd have to say, brother, no.
So I mean, I'm with you that already,
like that's a huge upfront.
If you're using two different cables, cable sets,
just because one's like at a higher
level than the other, that's like, no, you're not allowed.
That's not allowed.
100%.
That's not the etiquette way.
Like that's not allowed.
But he was really accommodating.
Once like you called him on it, like no one was around.
So he was like, maybe I'll just try and squeeze this in.
And when somebody finally came up, he was like, nah, I'll change it.
You're right.
But you were like, no, no, you're right.
I will leave.
No, in fact, I can't, I don't need that machine
because I'm moving to Bosnia.
Goodbye.
My tickets, my tickets for now.
Well, all right.
I'm sorry that that's happening.
It is like a different,
there's certainly a different vibe in the evening
that I do not care for.
I even tried once near my work, working out one night
so that I could miss the traffic a little bit.
And that means that I'm going to the gym at five o'clock
and it's like the very worst time in the world
to go to the gym.
Not only is it just that there's a lot of people,
there somehow there's just this confluence
of like the worst people are there at that time.
Like some of the worst people you've ever met in your life,
like sitting there waiting on a bench
and just watching a guy sit on his phone on the bench.
And then he goes like, he has to do his wraps
every single time he's got wrist wraps
and he takes them off after he's set.
And then he gets down, he starts to lift the barbell
and then just stops. And then he goes over to the starts to lift the barbell and then just stops.
And then he goes over to the side of it and looks at it
to see if it's even.
I don't know what he's fucking doing.
And then he goes and sits down again,
does a couple sets, terrible sets,
and then puts it back down, takes off his wrist wraps,
keeps looking at his phone for a while.
And like, there's a bunch of people waiting
and he's clear that we're all waiting.
And he's just like taking his sweet time.
And I'm like, I finally go up to him like,
how many more do you have?
And he goes, probably like three or four.
And I was like, listen, I'm gonna work in with you.
He was like, what?
And I was like, this is about my weight.
I'm gonna work in with you.
There's a lot of people waiting and this will just,
we'll bang it out early.
And he was eventually like, okay, okay, I'll do that.
But-
May I ask you, was I'm gonna work in with you.
Yeah.
Was that locked and loaded
regardless of how many sets he had left?
No, if he had said one, I would have,
maybe even two, I would have been like, okay.
And now he knows there's like a written,
there's receipts that like somebody is waiting on you.
But when he said three or four, which is also,
why are you doing, and he'd already done like four.
So why are you doing eight sets on the bench?
And so I was like, I'm gonna work in with you, okay?
And he was like, eventually, stuttered, stuttered, stuttered,
and eventually was like, okay, all right.
And then I just worked with this guy.
But that's kind of like the point I'm at, at my gym,
where I'm like, I'm so sick of everybody's fucking shit here
that if you're not, I know what the etiquette is,
I know how we can all get through this whole thing faster.
Nobody wants to be here ever, well, except for Clarence.
He really wants to be there and talking to everybody,
but like nobody wants to be here.
Let's just get through it.
And if you're breaking etiquette,
I'm gonna fucking say something.
I'm gonna not let you do it.
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Have we, have I ever vulnerably shared with you the nightmare that is my approach to music
notation?
What?
No.
Have we ever discussed this?
So you know I'm, I'm famously a bass player.
Yes, you are.
Do we have a clip?
And then we'll play a clip of it right now
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But separate from my rock star past,
my oldest brother and sister-in-law,
they run a music school and a couple of times a year
they put on performances with the the Broadway bound
wing of their music school where every kid gets to do a little solo and there's a pit band that
that plays the music for them. It's me and my other brother, our friend Sean and a rotating group of
trumpet players. So the kids get to sing a Broadway show tune with like a little rock band playing beneath them.
I love it. I want to see these kids so badly.
The kids that are like the Broadway,
like the kids are on the Broadway track.
I want to see them so bad.
It's, it's very fun.
I don't speak to any of them because Soren,
I simply know too much.
I know, I know where all the roads lead.
So I don't ever want to pull one of them aside
and be like, here is the important function
that you are serving to the broader
high school theater community.
And then you got to go when your time is up.
But anyway, we're playing this music
and we get sheet music from my brother
for what we're supposed to be playing.
And here's where I am musically,
is that I can, I have a pretty decent ear
for picking out tunes in songs,
which is how I've learned a lot of songs
as a bass player in my day.
Tough skill. This is too much music to learn by ear and then commit to memory.
Okay. I know where every note is on the bass guitar. I know where C sharp, D.
All the hits. D sharp.
You don't have to keep going, et cetera. E. I'm familiar with notes. F. Yeah. F sharp. D. All the hits. D sharp. You don't have to keep going, et cetera.
I'm familiar with notes.
F.
F sharp.
G, G sharp, A, B flat.
Can't do minors and majors though.
It's everything's a major.
There's no chords.
I know where all the notes are.
And I know when I'm looking at a piece of music, I know what note corresponds to what letter note.
I can look at a thing and be like,
and look at a thing and say like, that is a C,
that is a D sharp.
And I know on the bass where a C and D sharp are.
I struggle putting these things together in real time.
So if you just like drop sheet music in front of me,
I can't quickly look at the sheet music and let that correspond to what I'm doing. So what I
do instead, and what I've done, because I used to play in pit bands as a side gig for like,
eight years. And what I've done in all of those pit bands playing full shows and now these
Broadway bound shows is I go through the music and a note at a time I write the letter of
the note above the note.
So you can see the staff and then above it you'll see like a C sharp G a C sharp G and
I because I can look at the number the letters and play that as if I'm sight reading. And it's a very long process.
And I'm looking at my fucking music now.
And not only do I.
Because I'm not I'm also not great at like reading
the rhythm of staff music, the the the the eighth note, 16th note.
How long like I know intellectually, but like again, like looking at it very quickly is difficult.
So quarter notes.
Trip bullets.
So in addition to having to write the notes above the music,
I also, if the rhythmic pattern changes,
I also need to notate that in a way that makes sense to me.
So sometimes I will write like one, two, one, or like a series of dashes that make sense
in my brain that won't make sense to anyone else.
And there are other times where like I'm playing a D now and then I need to play a D an octave
up and I can't just notate that.
I mean, the music notates it perfectly, But when I'm just writing letters, I'll write a D
and then I will either make, I'll write another D
that is like physically higher on the page
or I'll write D with a little carrot pointing up
to let me know that this one is an octave up.
It is, I think on balance, more little notation figures
than is in any staff music anywhere. Like I, more little notation figures
than is in any staff music anywhere. Like I have more little-
You touch yourself to read something
that's completely useless.
I invented a language that's more complicated
than any of the language that exists already,
but it's the only thing I know at this point.
And it's such a strange, like complicated nightmare.
And sometimes I'm like playing along and I'll see a past note that was
like, Daniel, this is like that one part. And my God, God, this music is great.
This is so easy to read. Cause I know what I'm talking about.
When I say that one part.
Yeah. You it's a language that's just your own. You are Nell,
but you don't have a twin. Right. Um, I, so it's such an,
any real musician would be so disgusted
to see my sheet music and I hide it from your brother.
No, he knows what I'm doing.
He knows he sees all the sins.
So I'm with you in terms of like,
in the same way that I think somebody can sing really well
is just magic.
When I see somebody sit down at a piano and open up a book and they've never played a song before
and they're looking at the song and they're playing it,
I'm like, you are on another level.
Like this is not something I would,
you are fluent in this language and I never will be.
I am with you that like writing the name of the note
above it, I would have to do it
because I have to translate every single time.
I'm like, all right, well, let's see, where's this one?
Oh, it's in between the lines.
Well, let's see, that's face.
And this is where the C is.
That's a C, that's a C.
And like, I got to do it every single time.
So writing it above, that's exactly what I would do.
In fact, I might even do like a tabature on the top
because I still can't even be like A.
All right, well, how should I play that A?
Should I play that as an open string A
or should I play that?
If I could quickly write tabs, then I would do that.
And I'm sure someone in the comments will let us know
that there's like a way to generate tabs
that I just have never looked into
or maybe it costs money or something like that.
And so it's just never gonna happen for me.
But I also, maybe I wouldn't write tabs
because it's helpful for me to know
exactly what measure I'm on
and the sheet music has the lyrics.
So if I get completely lost,
I could just listen to what the little kid is singing
and know where to go on the page that way.
So if I was writing my own tabs,
I would also have to write the lyrics.
And that doesn't solve my problem of writing in three different languages to stave off
having to learn how to actually read music.
The pattern of the music or like the percussion of the music that you're describing, the way
you write that out, that's insane to me.
That seems like so much extra work over just
recognizing the difference between a quarter and an eighth.
And that part my brother might not know
because I don't think as a bass player,
you don't love to hear that from your rhythm section.
But I don't know how to read the songs.
It's like a drummer being like,
I don't understand all these little things.
I'm just going to write mine out.
I know how each drum sounds and how they work.
I just don't know when you want me to do them based on these squiggles.
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God damn it.
I wonder if it just would have been, if you could go back now, would it have just been
easier to learn to read music?
It's a really great question because, because I started learning bass kind of late, I think
I'd like sixth grade and I had a little bit of music understanding because before that
I was learning clarinet, I took clarinet for like five years
and I can really play clarinet or I could certainly
at that time, play clarinet in treble clef,
reading music by sight easily.
Then picking up bass, I just didn't have the patience
to really put that same kind of work
into learning bass clef, even though it's
not like a huge transformation.
And I also like bass was just so immediately fun.
And I wanted to put a song on my CD player and play along with it.
And I got lucky and cursed that I had a decent enough ear that I could figure out a lot of
songs that I was like, well, then what the fuck do I need the homework part of this?
Because when I was first playing bass, I don't, I didn't have any ambitions of being an almost
40 year old pit band player for children.
I was going to be a rock star.
Yeah.
And it just seemed like-
You know, I started playing bass thinking you're going to have a music stand in front
of you while you're doing it and hustling to like turn page as you're in the middle of something. That's not cool.
That is not a cool look. Absolutely not. And I got into playing bass to be cool.
But I don't know because I don't... now, it would be great benefit if I could read music perfectly, but it was, I enjoyed my time and I, starting with a good ear and then like working on the other because you already, you did. I mean, you got more dependent on one, but I think that's just nature of like learning a thing.
You start to fall into the, oh, well, I have this workaround and then that becomes,
and then you've get another workaround. And then like, at a certain part, you either have to decide,
well, I'm just going to relearn this the way that it's decided that everybody does it.
Or you're going to be like, I live by workarounds. That's all I am. That's who I am as a person. I mean, it's probably beneficial to you that you're good at memorization.
The fact that you were, you're good at acting is that you know songs backwards and forwards,
and you can put a lot of songs in your brain. That's my other trick. I put trick in quotes,
is I play these songs. We do the two of these concerts a year, and I play them 10,000 hours, I play the
shit out of these songs, because again, even my scribbled
notations, they're not perfect. So I need to play them so many
times that the songs are just like, in my bones, because I if
if I can't flip the page fast enough, I still need to be able to play it.
So I play these things enough that they're just like,
the rhythm and the music is in my blood by the end of it,
which is more work than I think my brother wants me
to be putting into these little fun concerts.
Yeah, but still, you want it to be good.
You want it to be good for the kids,
when there's these young children who are confused.
It also means my...
When you're a jet, you're a jet all the way.
All the kids that I want to sit down and be like, hey, you're having fun.
I just want you to know, I wish they would have told me, you don't want to be an actor.
You just want community and you hate sports.
Like don't, don't want to be an actor. You just want community and you hate sports. Don't attach your personality.
Don't live and die if you don't get a part
or if you don't get into college for acting
because the real thing is you want a like-minded group
of friends who share your interests
and you get to do a thing that is not Little League.
Yeah, you found this community of people
that all really enjoy touching each other and that
seems to be fine.
Yeah.
And like that's really fun.
It doesn't mean you want to be an actor.
Everybody's looking for that.
Everybody wants that.
The other one more side effect of this music life is it absolutely fucks my Spotify rap every year
when Spotify is like, here's what you've been listening to.
And it's like a chaotic mix of songs from my running
playlist that I listened to a million times.
And also like, well, you have an eclectic taste,
but you're the one song you played the most
out of everything was someone gets hurt
from Mean Girls Girls the musical.
It's like, yeah, I really want to nail that one.
I was having a hard time with the middle. The bridge of that is complicated.
So this is another thing you'll notice someday when you have children is Spotify means nothing
to you anymore. Like your Spotify doesn't belong to you.
It's like you get to the raft and you're like,
why on earth would I even look at this?
What is this gonna give me?
It's gonna tell me that I listened to Be Prepared
from the fucking Lion King
more than anything else this year.
The only saving grace is that my son is slowly growing into
good musical taste.
He's no longer in, go ahead.
Be prepared, Rips.
Be prepared is a good song.
But he's, it's not even like,
Hey, he's not even like, I heard this in a movie
and now I want to listen to it.
He genuinely, he will hear a song on the radio or,
well, not on the radio, but like I'll play a song
and he'll be like, what's that?
And I'm like, oh, that's this band called Grammatic.
That's a little song called Tranquilo.
And he's like, I like that a lot.
I'm like, you, you're doing good.
This is good taste.
This is, that is a cool, slow riff jam.
That's great.
He also really likes songs that don't have a ton of lyrics.
And I don't know why.
I don't know if he's afraid of them.
If he's like, I don't know what any of this means. I don't want to embarrass of lyrics and I don't know why. I don't know if he's afraid of them. If he's like, I don't know what any of this means.
I don't want to embarrass myself by saying I like a song
and I don't know.
And everyone else is like, do you know what that's about?
That's, you know what brick is about?
So he really likes songs with no lyrics.
And like he's, so he's into these bands that I listen to
when I write a lot.
And so it's very easy to listen to music with him.
Ratatat, he likes Explosions in the Sky.
He loves this band called Too Many Zoos.
Have you heard of them?
No, was that the tagline for that Cameron Crowe film?
This is the sequel to I Bought a Zoo after like, you just can't stop.
Like it becomes an obsession.
Too Many Zoos is a band of three guys.
One of them plays a walking bass drum, like a marching bass drum.
He also has some other little percussion stuff that he does and some bells and
things like that. There's one of them plays the trumpet and one of them pay it
plays the bass sax and they rip, dude.
They're fucking awesome.
If you want to check them out,
look at a song called Warriors.
It's wonderful.
But really all their songs.
Subway Gods is a really good song.
Like Steph Curry Warriors?
Oh, there you go.
Exactly, yeah.
Too Many Zoos, he is into them.
And in a way where he's like,
we get in the car and he's like, we get in the car
and he's like, can we listen to Warriors? And I'm like, I would love to listen to Warriors. This
is great. We're on the same page. This is wonderful. So one more quick music and children related
story and then we got to get into the show. Soren got so much to get into. There's a different
music thing that also happens with one of my brothers. a friend of ours this guy Danny every year in November to raise money for
Movember and prostate cancer awareness and treatment
He and my brother and another one of our friends Sean
They learned a bunch of songs as a guitar bass drums trio and they have a party
It's mostly family and friends and there's like a set list of songs that a guitar, bass, drums, trio. And they have a party.
It's mostly family and friends.
And there's like a set list of songs that they've learned.
And you can come up, anyone can come up and sing
like live karaoke kind of thing.
And it's a mix of songs like that they love.
And they, a couple of requests
that they've gotten for friends.
It's very fun.
None of them are like professional musicians full time.
They're all perfectly good at their instruments
to do this exact thing of like,
we're gonna play Zombie, we're gonna play Come Together,
we're gonna play Damn It by Blink-182.
These kinds of things that are like fun
to get up there and sing.
I have gone the last couple of years
and try to get up and sing a song to help out.
No one's a trained singer, it's just fun.
I recommend it.
No one should be too cool for singing in front of their friends and family.
As they were leading up to this, and again, a lot of the songs are like by design, pretty well known. So even if you're not up there singing, you could sing from the crowd.
And my brother's daughter got really into this song by a band called Fastball
that we, my brothers and all, we all love very much.
They're known for that song,
the way that came out in maybe 2000 or maybe the 90s.
And out of my head, they had like two or three
heavy rotation radio hits.
And then as far as most people know, disappeared.
We O'Brien's kept up with them
and kept buying their albums and we liked them.
And there's a song on one of their albums,
Falling Upstairs is the album.
The song is called Louie Louie.
And it's like a fun banger that I don't know about it.
Is it Louie Louie?
Is it the Louie, like the famous?
It's not the one you know.
Okay, all right.
It's not any of the other two more famous songs
that go Louie Louie.
It's not Louie Louie or the Louis CK theme song.
It is a third less famous Louie Louie song.
And it's fun, we like it.
My niece loves that song.
It's just the same way that your son is like,
I wanna listen to Warriors.
She was like, can we listen to Louie, Louie, Louie, Louie,
Louie?
And so my brother would play it all the time in the car for her
and she loved it.
And then leading up to this quote unquote concert karaoke
thing, she was like, daddy, are you
going to play Louie, Louie for the karaoke show?
And he was like, it's my daughter.
I'm not going to say no.
And so he got the rest of the band
to learn this song that very few people know.
And then contacted me in advance to be like,
we're going to play the song for Lydie.
She's going to love it.
Will you sing it?
Because we can't get anyone else to sing it.
No, we can't count on anyone who's
going to know this song to sing it.
And I was like, oh, I don't know.
I don't really want to do it.
But of course, like I practiced it and then got up to do the due diligence of singing that song.
And last year when we had this concert thing,
Lydie was front and center and she loved everything that she saw.
And she was the happiest kid in the world, all the singing and dancing.
And she wanted to jump and play and be part of it.
This year, something happened. The music was scary dancing, and she wanted to jump and play and be part of it.
This year, something happened.
The music was scary and loud and she didn't like it.
And then it was like,
Lydia, we're gonna do Louie Louie now.
And she was, no!
And she's like screaming,
it doesn't want it, wants to run to the other room.
And my sister-in-law was like,
just start playing the song.
Daniel, get up and sing it.
And then when she sees her uncle singing this song
and her dad is playing the drums,
she's gonna love it, she's gonna be out here.
Never fucking showed.
So we're just four adults who learned this borderline obscure fastball song from an album
that came out in 2005.
And here we are singing it looking for the one person who wants it and she refuses to
come.
I'm having it.
That's wonderful.
Kids are just people on mushrooms. They're like, the energy shifts for them.
And they're like, I hate this place.
I hate everything about it.
I think I want to die.
You're like, no, hold on.
We're just in a different room now.
Like, nothing has really changed.
All the same people are here.
With family at like a child's Halloween costume parade a couple years ago.
There's all the little kids being Spider-Man and Captain America and Iron Man.
And one little kid who is like an incredibly competent werewolf costume.
And as soon as he I don't know this kid, I know his parents a little bit.
And as soon as the kid looks around at everything, just goes to the dad and is like.
I wanted to be Captain America.
Why did you make me a wolf?
And the dad, just like, seeing the dad's face sink
and knowing that like, we talked about this.
We talked about this so many times.
I've never wanted to be a werewolf.
What do you mean?
You threw a tantrum in the store.
This was not my dream.
It wasn't my dream you would be a wolf
and I like forced it on you.
We tried so many times to get you to be something else.
Yeah.
My son also came home one day from school.
He had seen a break dancing class.
I guess that after school,
there's like other programs and he saw break dancing
and he was like, they played this song
and he's already frustrated. He's already like, there's no other programs and he saw breakdancing and he was like they played this song and he's already frustrated
He's already like there's no way I'm gonna find this song again. And he's like
No, I don't even know how to describe it. I'm like, let's just try to sing a little bit of it and he's like, okay
Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum and I'm like next episode
I know that.
Yeah, like you came to the right place, man.
That's a great song.
Let's listen to it right now.
And like, when you find that,
cause they don't have phones, right?
Like kids are, it's weird.
They're us from two decades ago where they're like,
you hear something and you're like, fuck, that was awesome.
Well, I hope that turns up in my life again.
I got really hung up on,
there's a break dancing club at his school.
Yeah, there's a lot of good clubs, some bad ones too.
But yeah, there's a lot of really great clubs
that you can be involved in
and that he's just not ready for yet.
Things that I'm like, he likes the idea of it,
but he's a pretty shy kid.
And as soon as like, you're like,
and they do a performance, he's like out.
Not doing that.
I wonder if my school had had break dancing,
would I still have gone down the clarinet path?
Right.
It's really, really impossible to tell
because I certainly, the idea of being a good dancer
has always been very appealing to me.
And break dancing to 10 year old Daniel
would probably be like, this is the, I can do this.
Of course, I can stomp around
and spin in circles on the ground.
Yeah, yeah. And like a lot of it is just the prep. So you're like, you're up on your feet,
but you're doing that one capoeira motion where you're just like one foot forward. The other one
sliding behind you. And I'd be like, yep, that's my wheelhouse. I could do that. And then I just,
I'm allowed to just fucking go crazy. Perfect. I like that. I'm allowed to just like jump on my
hands and stuff. Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. I
didn't really have the option either growing up. It turns out not a lot of break dancing in Colorado,
probably because that one kid was killed break dancing. Oh, wow. What a bummer. Yeah. Little
town of Footloose. Mm hmm. Oh, Mont Colorado famously. How did that work in Footloose? Did somebody die dancing?
I don't quote me on this,
but I believe the town reverend
who was sort of in charge somehow.
I think because there was like a party
where people drank and danced and then an accident occurred.
Yeah. Like a fatal accident.
Then it was like, we need to to like partying in general, including dancing was banned.
And then Kevin Bacon comes from Chicago and and brings dancing to the that's right.
To the people.
Again, such a funny premise that John Lithgow was like, it's not, you can still do, you still play chicken on tractors.
Yeah.
You can still drive all you want.
Drinking's fine too.
There's nothing else to do.
I totally get that.
But dancing, fuck off.
Yeah.
Listen, kids, just do something else
with your weird sexual energy.
Anything but dancing.
Put the evil somewhere else.
Put it in somebody else.
I don't care.
Should we do our show?
Yeah, I guess.
Okay, Daniel, I have a quick question for you.
Shoot.
It's that time of year where I start watching movies
that are four years old.
And I wanted to talk to you,
see if you've ever seen the movie Deadpool and Wolverine.
Let's see.
How old must I have been?
Of course I saw it opening weekend.
That was one of those rare conditions are perfect movie
by which I mean my wife was out of town
so I could go to Deadpool and Wolverine
by myself and not feel bad about anything. Good. Yeah, I watched it. I watched it finally
in installments as I tended to watch my movies. Oh, fuck, I'm now realizing I'm not going to be
able to watch movies for a while because of my new workout schedule. God, RIP. Man. My last vestige
of pop culture.
Well anyway, before work started again, I watched Deadpool and Wolverine.
So I'm caught up.
I'm caught up on culture.
I really enjoyed it.
I really like this movie.
I had such a blast.
And maybe if I was younger and I took every new movie that came out as a sign of where the world was heading like some
friends of ours like to do I would have much stronger feelings about why it's
bad I fucking loved it I loved eating all the candy of that parade of IP cameos
and and like getting choked up for characters that I don't actually care
about but it's still nice to see them.
Yeah.
It was fun.
Hugh Jackman is great in it.
I mean, there's still,
so Deadpool 2 was like a real dive into some jokes
that I thought like were super, super hack.
Like they're like some really hacky, low,
like just like low hanging fruit sex jokes
over and over again.
For sure, yeah.
And like a lot of gay jokes and stuff. It's like, what do we, just explain to me,
like, what are we laughing at right now? What do we, tell me why that's funny.
But I thought they kind of like pulled it back a little bit for this other movie. And I thought it
was like, and he's a great straight man. Turns out Wolverine's a great straight man to have with
hanging out with Deadpool. It was wonderful.
Hugh Jackman is just so good in everything
and he throws himself into being Wolverine
with such commitment.
It's just so endearing and he's so perfect in it.
And I love every second that he's on screen.
And like Ryan Reynolds,
I'm still fine with the Ryan Reynolds shtick.
I agree with you about like the jokes aren't super clever most of the time and they're
not particularly shocking because it's 2024.
But it's still a super enjoyable thing.
I was very curious about your experience because the way big movies go now
is I saw it opening day and nothing was spoiled for me.
I just got to enjoy it.
And maybe within 24 hours and not just on Twitter,
but like YouTube was their homepage was like,
here is a clip of Chris Evans as Johnny Storm
in Deadpool and Wolverine.
Like a reveal that was super fun in the movie
that was immediately in YouTube, on YouTube in its entirety
from the studio 24 hours later.
And then like within that week,
there's all these cameos like Blade, Electra, Channing Tatum as
Gambit. They all show up in a in a like fun hero reveal towards
the end of the movie. And that entire scene was put on there.
And the same thing happened with Dr. Strange, the Multiverse of
Madness a couple years ago, where the movie comes out and
Strange, the Multiverse of Madness a couple years ago, where the movie comes out and within five days, a very crucial cameo heavy spoiler scene, it just dropped in its entirety from
again, the Marvel or 20th Century Fox YouTube account.
And I don't, I don't understand it.
It's like not even a way where if you're reviewing a movie,
you can, first of all, if you didn't see a movie
and don't wanna be spoiled,
you don't have to click on review.
But even if you did, they still have the good sense
of saying, hey, just in case there are spoilers in this.
Or if you know spoilers run rampant on Twitter,
you can avoid Twitter.
Go to YouTube and like the thumbnail is Chris Evans
as the human torch with a description that explicitly lays out
what happens in the movie. You can't get away from the spoilers anymore. It is. It does seem to be
particularly pervasive with the MCU. Yeah. There's I've seen the trailer now for the new Captain
America movie, the Falcon Falcon, Captain America, New World Order, Captain America movie, the Falcon, Falcon? Captain America?
New world order, Captain America, New World Order.
And the whole movies, I mean,
I know the plot of the entire movie.
I know what like the blows are for each act
because there's like a lot of like,
can you trust Harrison Ford?
I don't think we can trust him as the president.
Oh, and then, oh, I guess in the third act,
Harrison Ford turns into the Red Hulk.
We're just all supposed to, we're going to be fine with that.
We're going to be fine with already knowing that when we walk into the movie.
Because I'm sure that the entire plot of the movie, they bury a lot of that.
You're not supposed to know.
He's going to turn into the fucking Hulk.
I wonder if, like, there's got to be some really annoying, ridiculous studio math that makes this make sense
on some level where Marvel can look at the box office
and ticket sales for opening weekend of Deadpool
and also add in every YouTube stream of every clip
that is tagged with Deadpool to
inflate the amount of like
Minutes of Deadpool that have been consumed
Worldwide just so the numbers are bigger. I don't know what audience that serves
it just seems like and it and I can't imagine it serves the filmmakers who or
actors who who worked to make this movie to then just see like
oh here's the big reveal in youtube on a tiny screen that people are going to watch before
the movie and you watch enough clips on youtube that you don't even
bother going to see the movie anymore because all the big reveals are spoiled
that sucks for audiences sucks for people in the movie and that's why I'm 100% certain that it's really good for Marvel in some insidious
business way. I feel so bad for the writers because you're writing a story and you're like,
you're trying to weave something that's still engaging and interesting and will
surprise people. And when the first thing that comes out from the movie is like,
hey, look at this surprise. You're like, Oh, you fucking I worked
really hard to build that. We do, we do our advertisers or we were on TBS, American dad.
They would do these little interstitials or not interstitials, but like you get these
little clips of whatever episode was going to be on that night to kind of hype it. I
don't know how they choose these. I'm sure that they're looking for the most dynamic thing,
but a lot of times the most dynamic thing
and the thing that you think is also the funniest
is gonna be like that third act twist.
And so you're absolutely coming on
and you'll see like a clip of it and you're like,
oh, oh shit, that was like, that was my whole load.
Like that was the best part.
That was the thing that I liked the most.
And of course, it's just a sitcom.
It doesn't matter nearly as much as like an entire movie.
But even then you're like,
I tried to make something that was really fun
and would be interesting and would surprise people
when they got to it and you just gave it all away.
The entire time that you were talking,
all I was thinking about is the way we release episodes
of Quick Question now, there is a cold open before we get into the episode that is like plucked from
somewhere else in the episode. I hope they pick this section.
I hope they pick the section about you talking about how third act surprises get
ruined. And that's how we open the episode.
But yeah, I really enjoyed it.
I gave before this podcast, let us know that there was a discourse I wasn't aware of that
people are saying Ryan Reynolds isn't funny.
Don't understand that.
I think that even from like two girls, a guy at a pizza place or whatever that show was
called, I was immediately, because I have great stardom.
Sure. I'm great when I saw, let me just back up, back up all the way to Thelma and Louise.
I found you with a bunch of other comedy writers on Blue Sky with a comedy writer stardarket.
Stardarket.
When I first saw Thelma and Louise, I was like, who is this guy in the cowboy hat?
This boy is going to be a star.
This boy is going to be great.
When you first saw Thelma and Louise.
And I, of course, also did it again when I was watching Bullet Train.
And what's his name?
Anthony?
Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Oh, Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Or I was like, ah, this kid's got it.
This kid's 10 years into his career.
10 years into it.
I knew that he was gonna go places.
I mean, I can't say I'm any better
because when the first rebooted Star Trek came out
and I was like, this Chris Pine kid, he's fucking got it.
I was telling everyone I know, like,
this guy's gonna be a star.
And someone should have shut me up and be like,
yeah, you know who clocked that? JJ Abrams, you idiot. That's why they made him Kirk, you moron.
That's so funny you bring him up because Smoking Aces was a movie where I was like,
I hate this movie, but I cannot get enough of him. I would watch him the whole time.
He's so engaging. This kid's got it. But yes, I felt that way about Ryan Reynolds early on. I still think that like his deliveries,
everything, even jokes that I would, if I was to see those on paper, a lot of the jokes from
that movie, I'd be like, we could beat this. But his delivery, I'm like, no, no, no, this was the
right choice. He's so funny. I have the same arc as you, where I watched two guys, a girl on a pizza place, and then eventually two guys and a girl.
And that show, I thought was fine and funny enough.
But he was someone that was like, this guy's hilarious.
I want to see this guy do anything.
And then it sucks because then he did lots of things that I didn't enjoy.
Because he does have a very specific thing.
And like they've tried to do like serious action star and they've tried to do romantic
comedy and there's only been like, and like very big audacious comedies.
And there's only a few things that have really clicked and hit well.
And he's got a, there was a pre Deadpool time in his career where it just
seemed like man we just can't find the right fucking thing for this Ryan Reynolds guy we all
kind of agree that we like him he's funny and handsome and going along with like the army
hammer Glenn Powell school of life he should be famous and an actor.
Look how tall and handsome he is, I don't understand.
He's got sort of like resting Vancouver face
where he's like, he's blandly handsome
in a kind of forgettable way,
but otherwise he's charming and likable.
Is that yours?
I can't be my invention.
No, there's no way.
I wish I could credit that, but I don't.
That's wonderful
It was surely in a review of a Netflix or a Hallmark Christmas movie
That I didn't watch but for some reason consumed the reviews of it's perfect. Just like monotonously beautiful Yeah, is it? That's great, but not in an interesting way
Yeah, it's like it's bored. It's border endlessly beautiful. Yeah. That's great. But not in an interesting way. It sucks.
Yeah, it's borderline boring.
Yeah.
But we all agreed, yeah, he can be one of our stars.
We just haven't loved much of,
I don't know if it was just his choices or what,
but then the Deadpool movies came around
and it was like, this is finally a good match
of persona and film surrounding it.
And I loved that. And then at some point, we as a society, this is the discourse that Gabe was
referring to. We have turned on Ryan Reynolds and there are a couple of factors. One is he is
everywhere. There was the relentless advertising campaign around Deadpool Wolverine. See, this is
why it hasn't been a problem for me.
I don't see him in anything.
That was that shit was everywhere.
And he is separate from that.
He is the co founder of Mitt Mobile.
And so he's in a lot of commercials on podcasts and on YouTube and on television, you just
see and hear from him a lot.
And that was one thing people just getting sort of sick of it.
Another part of it, I think people didn't love Deadpool and
Wolverine as much as you and I did for whatever reasons they have.
Really?
Yeah.
I think for a lot of people it was like this is just, this is a movie with no real
plot and it is just sort of like a celebration of intellectual property.
And okay, I did the parade of candy.
Yes.
I understand.
But I mean, you look at it from perspective of this movie is just planes, trains and automobiles
with two superheroes.
Yeah.
It's way more fun.
I think so too.
I think that's a great way of succinctly putting it.
Our, our buddy friend of the show, Jason Pargin, wrote about the movie on his sub stack.
And one of his problems with it was that
to really enjoy the movie, you as an audience
also needed to be aware of the 20th Century Fox
and Marvel merger because that is a hugely important part
of this.
And for him, that was like, what does this say
about the future of movies if this is like, a plot point is something that is like the business of
the studio behind this? Isn't that silly? Like, no, it's not. Next question. Yeah. Also, that's the
point of Deadpool. Deadpool breaks down that fourth wall. Also, like that Fox is like a long
history of this. That's what the Simpsons did all the time. We were fine with it. We were like, oh, I guess Fox sucks.
Yeah.
But that's part of the people getting a little bit sick
of Ryan Reynolds, people not loving that movie,
people seeing him in the mobile commercials.
There was also Martha Stewart
released a Netflix documentary.
That's awesome.
A scathing Ryan Reynolds documentary by Martha Stewart. But because she's in this documentary, that's awesome. And worth a... A scathing Ryan Reynolds documentary by Martha Stewart.
But because she's in this documentary,
she has been making the interview rounds
and a poll quote of hers came out that was
thinking Ryan Reynolds is not funny.
And which is a very funny stance for Martha Stewart to have.
No way she said that. Of all the people to pluck out of the world to be like, I don't think Ryan Reynolds is funny. which is a very funny stance for Martha Stewart to have.
No way she said that.
Of all the people to pluck out of the world
to be like, I don't think Ryan Reynolds is funny.
And it gets even funnier as a take
when you realize she's not talking about Deadpool
or if she is Ryan Reynolds' neighbor
and she doesn't find him funny personally.
Good.
You don't want a dude who's on as your neighbor.
Yeah, you guys don't have much in common. It's okay if you don't like the same things. Yeah
And so people like like that picked up steam people were on the the Ryan Reynolds hater bandwagon
And I just I just don't see it. I understand if you're sick of something with via overexposure
You can't control it at that understand if you're sick of something with via overexposure,
you can't control it at that point. You're not disliking someone.
You're just like, you've been bombarded and you can't handle it anymore.
He's funny.
Like, I don't know what else to say about it.
He's not the funniest person in the world.
He's funny.
He still makes me laugh.
I have a soft spot for life because when the writers were
on strike for 148 days, all of the late night hosts got together and created a short lived
podcast called Strike Force 5 that they were doing to fill their time and they were using
the money that they generated from ad sales to pay a lot of the support staff that was
out of work during that time. And Ryan Reynolds was like a massive angel investor in that endeavor.
Just a guy who was like, I'll advertise Mint Mobile on your podcast. I'll put a lot of money,
money that went into like the pockets of my friends who were out of work during the strike.
So like, I'm clearly like forever biased in favor of Ryan Reynolds. But even if I wasn't,
he's it's okay to say he it's okay to say he, it's okay to say you didn't like
Deadpool or that you didn't like the marketing and that he's funny. And he just got like a certain
thing about him that is like this fucking scamp. He's really, yeah, he's very engaging. He's very
charismatic on screen and like, yeah, his deliveries on a lot of stuff from like, that was you, you're
doing all the heavy lifting there. That joke was funny because of you. You made that, like the delivery of it was incredible.
Yeah.
Anyway, I can totally understand now
why there might be some Ryan Reynolds hate.
I understand the oversaturation
and not a thing that I've been exposed to whatsoever.
I knew that like, Wrexham existed.
And I was like,
that's gotta be the only thing he's doing, right?
He's getting bought a football team.
That takes a lot of work, but I guess he's doing a lot of other things.
It's a wild like that media tour,
was everywhere that I looked, but it's wild.
The stuff that does miss you, because towards the end of our season,
I was noticing a lot of jokes for that were pitched for last week
tonight in gangs or in scripts.
A lot of them were about the relentless advertising campaign of Wicked and to hear New York writers talk about it.
They could not escape fucking Wicked.
And that's that's the thing that is just missing me as someone who lives in New Jersey and doesn't like...
We don't really have billboards everywhere.
We don't have buses that are bus...
Buses and bus stops that are plastered with the same posters over and over again.
So it really feels like you're living in completely different worlds when an otherwise normal co-worker is like,
Isn't everyone sick of this wicked stuff?
And I'm like, there's a wicked movie, what's up? When's it coming out?
Someone tell me.
It is.
So I'll say, we talked last time about the card
that I had written for you at your wedding.
I did a lot of like, there's a lot of very small jokes
in it about different, just like getting the names
of stuff wrong.
When I showed it to my wife to like look at it, to see if there was anything wrong with
what I had written, she was like, no, this is really nice. But like didn't laugh once.
And I'm like, um, do you know that these are all wrong? She was like, oh no, I had no idea
because she's just not exposed to that stuff. She's lived so far outside my world of even
pop culture.
Her island is even further out to see than mine.
And I was like, oh, the world must be so different from you.
You watch a movie, there's no expectation
for what will happen next
because she hasn't seen 100,000 movies.
My wife had a very similar experience
because we read all the cards together
and she sees almost no movies.
She's big into documentaries and basketball and that's like the viewing that we do and every
once in a while we'll agree on a sitcom and we'll watch that but for the most part she's just not
super interested in movies and shows because she is a healthy adult. And we're reading this card together
and we both finish it.
And she's like, that's so sweet.
It's like, it is very sweet.
I'm sure it just looks like a really sweet card
with a bunch of movie quotes in it.
That's what Colleen thought it was.
And I think it was like a little bit of disappointment
or I was like, I thought you would do something
funny.
Oh, okay.
I see what's happening here.
I have had, we're almost out of time because I don't want to do it anymore.
But I, this does segue into how humiliated I am, I guess by my life, but mostly by like what
prestige TV is now. It just so happens that a lot of like the big HBO shows and the Disney plus
Marvel shows that that make up modern culture are on paper, very silly.
And so when I'm hanging out with my wife
and she's gonna go to work or she's gonna go somewhere else
or she's working from home, I was like,
can I, a show that is important to me,
that I need to watch because I like to stay on top of it.
This is an important, I'm a TV writer
and I wanna see my show on my prestige network.
So I'm going to watch it. And like for the last two years of living together, it's always
been some, it's fucking dragons or now Dune where I was like, okay, honey, enjoy work.
I'm going to put on my serious show. And it's, and it's, it's these people in rows and they're
like doing space cocaine and they're like,
we need to get the spice from Arrakis out of the hands of the Hockonans.
Because whoever controls the thinking machines controls the world.
I'm like, this fucking sucks. It sucks that this is important to me.
It sucks that all of the biggest shows in the world right now are about dragons and space cocaine and Star Wars.
It's such a bummer. Yeah. You can hear me watching my
marvel witchcraft show in the other room. It'd be like, I don't know. I never thought I'd be here.
I never thought I'd be in this position. I understand from the outside how this looks.
I don't like it either. My shit sucks. Yeah. But I got, I love it. I was like, Hey honey, can we,
are you done watching your dragon show?
So we get put on this documentary about John Bida Ramsey.
I'm like, ah, how do I express that,
that my thing's more important than your thing?
Evidence would suggest it's not.
I hear it.
I hear it when we say it aloud that it's not.
Also, no, we can't because I got to watch the after show.
There's a little bonus after show.
Yeah, I don't know if you heard in the beginning, but they say stick around for after the episode for some scoop,
because even though you watched me watch this entire episode and like pause it, there's a lot I didn't understand.
I need them to break it down why it's important that this person betrayed that person.
I need them to break it down why it's important that this person betrayed that person.
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Happy birthday, everybody.
Goodbye.
Happy birthday.
I've got a quick, quick question for you.
All right.
I wanna hear your thoughts.
I wanna know what's on your mind.
I've got a quick, quick question for you.
All right.
The answer's not important.
I'm just glad that we can talk tonight.
So what's your favorite? How did you get?
What will I be? What's your number? What's your number?
What are you going on? Oh forget it
I saw a movie, Daniel O'Brien
Two best friends and comedy writers
If there's an answer, they're gonna find it
I think you'll have a great time, yeah If there's an answer they're gonna find it
I think you'll have a great time here
I think you'll have a great time here