Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - Garden State Earthquake

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Video pods are back every Tuesday at https://www.youtube.com/@QQPodcastDaniel plants his Hakuna Matata flag on Bass Mountain, Soren’s about to start his Libertarian arc, and snowboarding can be deep...ly frustrating. Support the pod and get two bonus episodes a month at https://www.patreon.com/quickquestion Thanks to Factor! FACTORMEALS.com/qq50 and use code qq50 to get 50% off your 1st box plus 20% off your next box while your subscription is active! Thanks to ASPCA! To explore coverage, visit ASPCApetinsurance.com/QUESTION. The ASPCA is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've got a quick, quick question for you, alright? I wanna hear your thoughts, wanna know what's on your mind I've got a quick, quick question for you, alright? The answer's not important, I'm just glad that we could talk tonight So what's your favorite? Who did you get? When will I be remembered? What's it out there? Where did all that go? Do we know? Oh, forget it
Starting point is 00:00:25 I saw a movie, Daniel O'Brien Two best friends and comedy writers If there's an answer, they're gonna find it I think you'll have a great time here I think you'll have a great time here So hello again and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, the podcast where two best friends and comedy artists ask each other questions and give each other answers. I am one half of that podcast, author of How to Fight Presidents, senior writer for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver and earthquake survivor daniel o'brien joined as always by my co-host mr soren buoy soren say
Starting point is 00:01:09 hello hey everybody i'm soren buoy i am a writer for american dad uh tbd you know we're on hiatus there's always a chance that we don't get picked up all that but uh yeah used to be tbs oh listen there's something new about our podcast that we should probably let people know Used to be TBS. Oh! Listen, there's something new about our podcast that we should probably let people know. If you are enjoying hearing the sounds of our voice on, I don't know, iTunes or wherever you listen to Apple podcasts, I guess is what it's called.
Starting point is 00:01:38 You can also watch a video of this. You can watch Daniel and I talk to each other from thousands of miles away. And... I think people are going to be disappointed because you of this you can watch daniel and i talk to each other from thousands of miles away and uh yeah i think people are going to be disappointed because you uh have long hyped that you are filming this podcast from a garage surrounded by paint cans and that's like one of the most uh consistent comments that i've heard is people saying i can't wait to see the paint cans when you guys go on video and now behind did you dramatically turn those cans into uh great art
Starting point is 00:02:09 what is that behind you uh and i i'm gonna apologize quickly to everybody who's just listening to this because we're about to describe a lot of shit uh visual shit but this i did all of this about 10 minutes ago like hustled through it it. Like I'm sweating. If you wanted to get a glimpse of the sad disorder at the heart of my life, the pink hands are still over there. There's shit on the floor. But look, a plant. So,
Starting point is 00:02:37 Hey, some life. Yeah. I pulled this picture out of my attic and I dusted it off and I was like, it doesn't matter where it goes. Hang it. I would like to thank Factor, America's number one ready to eat meal delivery service. Skip all the meal prep hassle and get Factor's delicious fresh, never frozen meals delivered to your door.
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Starting point is 00:03:34 And my fiance is both the artistic one and the smart one and the tech one. So it was her ring light that i was trying to set up which is just a simple it's a thing on top of a thing and there are screws involved but i just couldn't solve it myself and she was on the phone and i didn't want to like like visibly beg her or like get her to stop doing her important work but i also couldn't make any grounds on this setup so i just had to like hold it and slam pieces together for a while so if she caught me out of the corner of her eye it looked like i was making progress but i'm just like killing time until her phone call ends yeah i this is a brand new setup for me as well i we
Starting point is 00:04:24 tried to do video a while ago we tried to like, pulling back the figurative curtain as well. We tried to do this. And I was, I was the bottleneck because my computer wouldn't update Chrome. It wasn't, it wasn't recent enough that like, I could actually like, use the most recent version of Chrome, and we couldn't do video without it. And then I also was like, all right, well I'll get my work computer. And then I was like, what are all these inputs on the sides of this laptop? I don't recognize any of these. Where's my USBs, my trusty USBs. Yeah. And so I think I'm going to USB a very long time ago and it's,
Starting point is 00:04:56 and it's upsetting because no one told all of the things that I own that we're not doing USB anymore. Yeah. So now I've got like a billion of these little things that are just like a usb to micro usb which are just i was holding out for the next thing honestly i do that with fashion too where i'm like well i won't catch this train but like the next one maybe we'll see and generally like every 10 years i can update the things in my life. 15, if I'm being honest. And then by that point, like I've skipped a few generations.
Starting point is 00:05:29 You must've felt this with your car that you were like, oh fuck. Yeah. I, there are all kinds of like little iterations of this along the way that I don't even have to deal with. That's just one big leap forward for mankind. Yeah. When they were touring me around, uh, my new Subaru and show me all the the doohickeys and stuff i'm just i'm still sitting there like you're telling me i could plug my phone right into my car and the music will come out of it holy cow you guys have thought of everything and they're like we
Starting point is 00:05:59 also have a feature where the car will stop itself if it thinks you're going to crash like yeah turn that off no no i don't need any of that forget that forget all that stuff yeah that's that's how i feel too um and colleen's parents were recently in town and they uh they have an older car and they're driving with my daughter and my and i have spotify in my new vehicle which means that like at any point i can listen to fucking anything that was ever written. Um, and you, we listened to Lion King a lot and she was in the car with her grandmother and she said,
Starting point is 00:06:32 I want to listen to Lion King. And my grandmother was like, yeah, me too. But that's like, just not how, that's not how anything works. That sounds great.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Which, which Lion King are you listening to? Okay okay so she likes just can't wait to be king which is um and it couldn't be taught obviously but like just can't wait to be king was one that my my son performed at like a end of the year performance last year and she was just on board like everything about it and uh i could have been more specific with my question is it animated lion king or the the new one with it's og like my boss john okay cool yeah it's old school it's yeah it's mr bean lion king yeah the uh the correct liking the this is uh not what the podcast is going to be about the podcast is not going to be about
Starting point is 00:07:25 anything but since we're talking about it the base in hakuna matata fucking owns and i'm so tired of myself for saying that that's that like this is where i feel like my inner chuck closterman is again rearing its head with like an incredibly brand specific thing for me to, to pull out of Lion King is just listen to the baseline and Hakuna Matata. It is so much better than it needs to be. I used to know the name of the guy who recorded it. He is dead as hell now. So forgive me, dead bass King,
Starting point is 00:08:00 but it's just so fucking good. They really let him go nuts on that track. Really? I guess I got to listen to it again. I usually I'm pretty good at like spotting a good base in something, king but it's just so fucking good they really let him go nuts on that track really i guess i gotta listen to it again i usually i'm pretty good at like spotting a good bass in something but yeah that's surprising okay i'll listen to it again i know that i will it's during like the the instrumental break so if you're listening to it with your kids a lot they might not care for that part they might just want to start the song over and like or get to the singing but it's in that when the the montage that shows that time has passed and it's just instruments and voices doing like bugs and stuff like that so yeah there is i mean i know a bass slide in the part where they're
Starting point is 00:08:36 eating the bugs because that right before he says slimy yet satisfying like he eats a bug and it's no good and he makes a face and you hear the bass go like oh that was gross um but that's the only part i can really point to in that song all right i'm sure it's a good old time uh speaking of which daniel and i yeah this whole show will maybe tangents but um okay so the first song i ever learned on bass was uh was brown eyed girl because brown eyed girl has for whatever reason a bass solo in the middle of it boom do you know what i'm talking about yeah that's what you're calling a bass i guess that's technically there is like vocals cut out everything cuts out the guitar player stops
Starting point is 00:09:19 doing all the fiddling he's doing and everybody's just like boom boom boom boom yeah and like all of a sudden there's just like a bass solo in the middle of that song for uh i don't know like a a bar and then and then we're right back into the song it's it's very bizarre but anyway yeah i wanted to be the star so i i wanted to play that then i started listening first song you learned on bass is one of the only pop songs in human history that has a bass solo you the confidence i was gonna play in front of the school uh and and then i started listening to other van morrison songs because like i like this stuff like i'll learn some more of this that guitar player in van morrison i don't know who's playing guitar in van morrison yeah but
Starting point is 00:10:04 that guy is allowed to just do whatever the fuck he wants the whole song. There is no guitar riff to any Van Morrison song. It's just a guy noodling the whole time, even in Brown Eyed Girl, which is a very poppy song. He's just like, I'll do whatever I feel like. Yeah. So my high school and college band with my older brothers, Lunch Money Criminals, check them out. We are not on Spotify. I don't know how to do it.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Someone please help me. Um, but we were hired not quite as our band, uh, to play a bat mitzvah. Oh yeah. And just because like we were known around town as a band and the the bat mitzvah gal liked our music and knew us from like local theater stuff too and her mother both doesn't like like play your songs
Starting point is 00:10:52 because she likes your songs but also you know three hours worth of bat mitzvah music and i'll give your band something like 300 something absurd and so we brought in another buddy of ours, this guy Dan, to come and sing a couple of songs because he was a great singer. So we were Lunch Money Criminals featuring Dan and we were so panicked about learning three hours of music because we just didn't have that. And we learned as many songs as we could as quickly as we could and like took turns singing.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And one of the songs was Brown Eyed Girl because the Bat Mitzvah girl was was brown-eyed girl because the bat mitzvah girl was a brown-eyed girl and we figured this would be everyone knows the song this will be a home run we'll do this and it it doesn't uh occur to us until we're in the song that my brother the singer is singing the lyric making love in the sweet grass we're all like looking at each other like that's not the kind of things we say yeah now we're singing it to a 16 year old i i mean i'd have to re-listen to the song but i'm pretty confident like it's behind a stadium it feels very school-ish like some kids fucking at school maybe times were just different then
Starting point is 00:12:02 yeah i guess they'd have to be maybe van morrison was just having sex with high schoolers and everyone was like yeah that's fine that's fine he's irish um we want to not talk about this being a video podcast for the entire time but are you are you completely aware that you're on camera yeah i keep forgetting and i and myself thinking like, no, you're not allowed to play with the things that you see around you, even though that's all I want to do. Yeah. I can see me next to you. And so pretty regularly, if you see my eyes dart like this, I'm checking in. Okay. Is everything still good over there?
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah. I'm checking in. Okay. Everything's still good over there. I think. Yeah. I, one thing I wanted to highlight,
Starting point is 00:12:50 and then we'll stop talking about what we see. Cause sorry, gave a little tour. I have this bar behind me. This is where we store our wine glasses and, and, uh, little bottles of wine and, and,
Starting point is 00:13:00 and liquor and stuff. And I'll be gentle. I don't know if you could see a little, those are regular. Those are average size bottles of wine sure um there's a sign behind me yeah you can't see it i don't know if you can see it or not it says oh beach yeah because because i'm o'brien and it's beach house and also hey it lights up oh it's just became blinding like you can't even i know it's not camera ready oh so did you have that custom made it was a christmas gift from fiance
Starting point is 00:13:35 i love that name uh yeah i thought you would so she had it custom made for you yes yeah they don't have those just like out at stores well i this was trying to figure out i was like what sort of content a lot of irish people visiting the beach who are like you know what would be nice is the o'shea that's at the front of the oh that's the beginning of my name in front of beach because those are my two passions me and the beach yeah right oh that's great speaking of things uh i mentioned up top soren that i was an earthquake survivor and you didn't say a word about it yeah because uh because you're just baiting me i know that you're baiting me you've lived in los angeles
Starting point is 00:14:18 you know that i experience earthquakes like once a month and yes i'm familiar with the earthquake that you had and the obviously the devastation and the toll that it had on the entire city of new york and new japan the entire eastern seaboard i guess right um and so i in the same way that i'm not going to now tell you how cold my my uh garage is i don't want to hear about your earthquakes okay then what do you want to talk about on the show you come up with the topic what happened daniel did your little wine bottles fall over? No, nothing fell over. Nothing broke, thankfully. It was 20 seconds and Jackson didn't even notice. I wasn't sure it was an earthquake because you know how these are. Sometimes you think it's like a big car rumbling through or something.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And I did eventually realize it was an earthquake and did fucking nothing. I did fucking nothing. I did absolutely nothing. Not that I, I, to do things differently. I don't know what I'm supposed to do, but certainly not freeze. I think that's pretty common though.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Cause people are like freezing to see if it gets worse. And which is like the, yeah, obviously like then what are you going to do if it's like way worse? Like now you're stuck in a position you, uh, yeah, but that's normal. That's normal behavior. I like the, yeah, obviously like then what are you going to do if it's like way worse? Like now you're stuck in a position. Yeah. But that's normal. That's normal behavior. I think the, one of my proudest moments, Daniel, was when I was in bed, we were asleep and earthquake happened.
Starting point is 00:15:54 My children's room to give you like the layout of my house, uh, we're in a bedroom across the hall is my children's bedroom. And I didn't really have a plan in mind for like what to do if there was an earthquake with my children. But I woke up, so I'm in my purest form, threw a pillow over my wife's head and ran to my children's room. So if debris came from the ceiling, it would land on the pillow? Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:16:24 That's good stuff, buddy. we have a thing hanging above the bed we have a big i don't know if you've ever seen the shining there's a big naked picture of an african-american woman on behind our bed just like uh scatman crothers has into the shining and i don't want that falling on her obviously um but yeah i put i threw a pillow over her head and then ran to my children's room. They also say, don't move in an earthquake. Cause it can like throw you like 10 to 15 feet in any direction. And there's stairs right there, but I needed, you know, I needed to be there. That's where I was.
Starting point is 00:16:56 That's where I should be. And so I ran there and was just like in that room with them. We've been since then talk to them about like what you're supposed to do in an earthquake do you in case this happens again for you do you know what you're supposed to do am i supposed to get under a table that's like tilted like a little drunk like like it's like really going off yeah um no i think that's dated you do want to get near something that's solid so yeah like uh if you have like a big desk or something like that you don't want to get underneath it i can't remember why i think maybe it can crush you or something but you get you huddle right next to it and that way if stuff falls it falls in like basically a triangle on it and that leaves a little gap for
Starting point is 00:17:43 you to live in that's the tilt i was talking about we're both right yeah we're both right um you know what really bummed me out about the earthquake is i wanted to do what i think is a very natural and normal response go outside look for the other neighbor men and all say earthquake to each other yeah and then leave and no one was out there no one there was no one for me to say earthquake too that's such a fucking bummer i know yeah we all go out in the street yeah still you gotta and also it feels safer somehow out there uh i guess that's not true because the palm trees and stuff like there's one obviously not where you are but like trees and stuff can just fall over but yeah like my
Starting point is 00:18:29 instinct is like get outside get the house right it does seem less likely that you'll be crushed by something violent outside yeah um i also don't think that you're to blame for not knowing what it was immediately i'd say that the majority of the earthquakes that happen in la and i know to expect earthquakes they are they run through their course and then they're done and by at the end of it i go oh oh that was an earthquake like i don't right in the moment i never know it's i'm just like oh okay yeah things are is that the dishwasher like what are what are we dealing with here like What's vibrating the walls? I work a lot and I go to the gym a lot and we are planning a wedding this summer. So there's one thing I don't want to think about.
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Starting point is 00:20:56 look at my phone when soren talks shit oh no go ahead uh so yeah great Oh, no. Go ahead. So, yeah, great. I took my kids to Colorado, which is where I grew up, my hometown. And I took them skiing and snowboarding for the first time. Twice we went. Wow. Now, my biggest fear with it was that we would spend, we would go to Colorado, which already costs quite a bit of money. We would rent gear, which also costs a bunch of money. We get lift tickets.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Like we do all the things that I would start to get very stressed out about because of the financial investment in it. And then my kids would just be like, I don't want to do this. Like I'm cold or something like that. So I think I've talked about on the podcast we've done it we did a soft launch first we went up and uh just sledded like we used to go with this place nearby la where there isn't actually a ski mountain so there's not a lot of tourism but there is snow and we just go sledding and it's great and they did great there they didn't mind the cold they could spend all day out there they could hike they could do all the things so i took them up to the ski mountain thinking okay i think we can do this and still like emotionally preparing
Starting point is 00:22:09 myself to be like just take it easy like it's their first time don't yeah they don't want to do it don't force it i ended up with the very first time that we rode a lift i ended up going back down snowboarding down with my daughter over my shoulder carrying her skis not in furious fucking furious so mad at her not that amount of money but uh i was hanging out with uh my nephew last summer uh just like hanging out on the beach and go to the boardwalk and there was a retro arcade in Asbury park where you pay whatever you pay to get in. And then you just have an hour of free arcade games and pinball. And we waited on the line and I, and went in there and I was like, all right, buddy, an hour, go, go have fun. And he played like a game. then he said uncle daniel
Starting point is 00:23:06 do we have to do the full hour like no you don't have to of course you don't have to no no but i want to go outside what do you want to do you want to go fucking kick a ball what are you out to the free outdoors sure you want to go play some baseball with me um yeah that's sort of how your son enjoyed it all yeah well they they clearly enjoy things differently uh my daughter does get obsessive about stuff and like we're at the bottom of the hill and we were just like i wasn't even taking them on the lift at first because i wanted to get them used to even the idea of getting off of a lift if nobody if you haven't skied before
Starting point is 00:23:50 you have to get on the lift which is its own complication and then getting off the lift when you're brand new to this sport these are like the worst things they could possibly throw you into head first getting on the lift is tough because you don't even at that point know that you need to like your skis need to be facing forward or your snowboard does which is like an awkward position to have it in and uh and then getting off the lift there's like a little hill you have to go down and then a big turn at the end and if you don't make it you crash or you stop too soon and then they have to stop the fucking lift for everybody who's on the lift for hundreds of people while they get you squared
Starting point is 00:24:25 away so yeah he was uh understandably nervous about that part because i was hyping it up and then so we worked at it at the bottom of the hill he was on snowboard on a snowboard she was on skis and we're kind of like getting used to the idea of it she's she already wants to go on the lift like immediately and she is the type of person who if she's not getting it at first she gets very frustrated but she wants to keep doing it like she wants to like push through that because she's like sees that there's everybody else is doing this my son is the opposite where if he doesn't isn't good at it at first like fuck this sport this is not a thing that i do and that's how he's felt about everything like swimming like he's like i just won't be a person that swims i'm like i don't think you understand how long life actually is you can't you can't just be a guy who doesn't swim um and so he it's i kind of have to like
Starting point is 00:25:16 i kind of have to let nudge him yeah you want to say something about swimming do you swim can you swim i feel like i'm a guy who doesn't swim i can i can not drown and i can yeah survive that's what i mean like he doesn't he he was not into the idea of ever even learning how to tread water or doggy paddle or anything like that even like getting his face in the water he was like i just i don't like it so i just won't ever do this like ah it's not gonna be your choice a lot of the time i'm so sorry stuff's just gonna happen um so i at the bottom of the hill like i was getting them already i got them psyched up and like figuring out how to like do the very fundamentals of it and
Starting point is 00:25:57 i rode up the lift with him because i knew that snowboarder and snowboarder it would be much easier for me to hold on to him than it would be to hold on to her. And then my mom, who hasn't been up on the mountain in a very long time, rode up with Colleen and my daughter. And Colleen, I think, has been on skis twice in her whole life. So she's also brand new to it. When we first started dating, I took her snowboarding and did the same thing with her at the bottom of the hill. And she was, I was young. So maybe I wasn't the best coach, but she got so frustrated and mad at me that she was
Starting point is 00:26:32 crying and throwing snow at me. And we were like, let's just, let's not do this. Wow. That's awesome. You'll just be a guy who doesn't snowboard. Yeah. And so she's, she's new to skis. They just, I need somebody to let to let it was also a three-person
Starting point is 00:26:47 lift so it's just like the practicality of it was like i couldn't go up with both kids um and be responsible for both of them on the lift and so my mom who is a really good skier to her right because she lived in aspen for so many years um she rode up with my daughter and colleen they got up to the top of the lift and immediately, you know, the beginner skiers are going to do what they think they need to do, which is snowplow, which is you make that wedge with your skis
Starting point is 00:27:11 where the two points are almost touching and you're making what's called like a pizza pie or like a pie. And that's how you slow down on skis. So they immediately do that. But when you're getting off a tiny little lift with other people, like there's not enough room
Starting point is 00:27:24 for all the skis to be doing that so like they all just like all their skis just flared out and hit each other and then everybody went down and my mom went down and i was like oh my like this is i shouldn't have done this like this is serious because you know she's in her 70s and i was like what was i thinking like so we went over and got her up she just ended up being fine but uh i hadn't even like considered the possibility that i should have like didn't even tell them like oh no it's really good when you're getting off a lift for one person to kind of go first and then like kind of file out down the lift it's just these
Starting point is 00:28:00 things that like are so innate in your mind that you're like i why would i tell them that everybody knows that and then afterwards felt so badly and then we got like really set the tone for my children which was my son was very scared and like scared and didn't want to do anything didn't want to try to make turns or anything like that and then my daughter we got about 15 feet down from the lift and she just laid down and was like i'm done i'll sleep here did did they did they think they wanted to ski at any point did you like get them excited and show them videos and everything and they were like yeah that's the thing i want to do yes okay yeah so uh that's that is a lesson i learned very early with him, which was like, you get them, you show them like what the fun of it is, because it's never going to be fun up front. There's like the learning cost, and then you get into like the fun. But if you defer, like the more you commit to the learning, the faster the fun comes.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And that's a very tough concept to grasp, even for me now. Like there's things I just won't learn because of the same for the same reason it's like right because because because some things are are fun right at the beginning start to finish fun and they don't require uh an earned fun at all yeah why wouldn't we do we doing those yeah um so they they were ready and they and they kind of flip-flopped on like what the sport they wanted to do. Eventually, they both had landed. They went through ski.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Like they're like, we want to ski. We want to snowboard. And eventually, they both landed on snowboarding. There just wasn't gear enough for – gear small enough for her to snowboard. So she ended up having to ski, which was a good thing. I mean, it was like you can stay up. I don't know if you've ever tried. Have you tried both?
Starting point is 00:29:42 I have. Yes, I've tried both. I went skiing one time years and years ago. And I owned a snowboard. And so in my memory, I feel like I must have tried it. All three of us had snowboards. I don't seem to have any memory of using one. Probably it just went great. Went super smooth. Yeah why you don't remember it's not memorable um snowboarding
Starting point is 00:30:10 is a much harder sport up front but like you may way easier later on so because i guess they each have their kind of like pitfalls but like on snowboard you don't have to worry about crossing your skis or like what you're going to do with poles or anything like that but you spend most of the day on your ass like you get up you fall down you get up you fall down skiing you can stay up a little bit easier like it's easier to stay up right but both of them like really it made me realize again like oh yeah this is a really hard sport you have to understand the concept of an edge and like how to dig your edge into the snow. And then also for my son with snowboarding, there's like, you're leaning either onto your toes or your heel. And that's, so you've got your toe edge
Starting point is 00:30:55 and your heel edge, but there's like in between there, if you're going to try and make a turn, if you're, let's say you're on your toe edge and then you want to make a turn, there's a period of time where you're flat-footed and pointed directly down the mountain it could be like if you get good it's not long at all but but that's a terrifying thing to constantly commit to where the board is pointed straight down the mountain and you're flat-footed on it because you just start to pick up speed immediately and so like your instinct is to lean back but then you can't like you don't have the weight on that front foot to do the turns that you need to do and so like getting him into that
Starting point is 00:31:30 position was horrifying and like he didn't want to do he didn't want to do it i was like helping him like holding his hands i ended up walking down most of the mountain with them but i i'm like trying to guide him and i'm like okay we're gonna go into a toe turn now we're gonna go to a turn and i'm like you have to lean forward and the minute this board picks the speed your instinct is to lean back so he's like leaning back i'm like you're doing it because you're scared and he just like breaks out into tears and i'm like no every no that's not i'm not saying i didn't call you a coward yeah i'm not saying what you think i'm saying to you i'm sorry that it came out that way the problem is not that you're scared and'm saying to you i'm sorry that it came out that way the problem is
Starting point is 00:32:05 not that you're scared and you need to stop being scared everybody everybody feels the way that you do you this is perfectly normal but you you need to like commit to it and i there's nothing else i can say to you other than just try and so there was it was a lot of me back, like walking back things that I said, because he's also particularly sensitive to that kind of thing. And then, and then just like pure rage at my daughter where I'm just like quiet rage where I'm like, I can't yell at you because like, of course you're tired. We didn't even do a nap today because we came up to the mountain and she's limp she's gone like ragdoll and so i'm picking her up by like her jacket and stuff like i got a mother cat picking up her baby by the nape of its neck like just like her collar just like picking her up like trying to set her back on her skis and the whole body just like falling down into the snow again and so so eventually, and not talking, like giving up on talking to us,
Starting point is 00:33:06 anything. So finally I'm like, I'm going to have to carry everything down. So I'm like carrying down the snowboard skis and her, and I was like, this is not tenable. Wait a second. I'm a great snowboarder.
Starting point is 00:33:18 What if I just carried her on my shoulder? That's super dangerous, but I think I could do it. And carried her down and got a lot of awes from the chairlift like people i mean not me you got to get something out of this i got a lot of people so much goddamn money i mean just seething on the way down being like what am i gonna what are we gonna say to her and then nothing like i put her on a bench my mom eventually came down too and she's like
Starting point is 00:33:45 you should go back up and help ronan and colleen uh and i was like i don't know i don't know if i should leave her she's like i've i dealt with you i know how to deal with this and i was like oh yeah okay that's a good point and so she stayed with her and when we got back down gilly was in a much better mood nothing ever came of it but i was like i was so i'd prepare myself too and i'm still so angry yeah i was like you don't have any concept of what we did to get you here you don't know what this means yeah i wonder how that must be so confusing being a very little kid already in your life you have uh no money or land no control over anything that happens to you and you're you i'm sure get used to uh a routine of being
Starting point is 00:34:35 shoveled along from one adult to another and sometimes you're in school and sometimes you're not and sometimes it's the park whatever and then one day it's just like oh man dad went nuts today and now we're in like this totally different place and there's all this all these people around all this stuff i had to learn a bunch of new rules and everything's scary and then the next day you're just not there it's like oh phew i hope that weird bit of madness never happens again it is very much like that for her i was just like having a dog like yeah she knows she's having a birthday soon but has no real concept of when it and or if it happened like we'll get through a day and she'd be like was my birthday today like no no you you wouldn't you're gonna know when it's
Starting point is 00:35:21 your birthday or she'll be like well also in what time a day it is she always asks like is it a school day today and i'll be like yeah we talked about it last night we're going to school today and then sometimes like we'll get through a whole day and we'll be eating dinner she's like is there school today i'm like you just um you just went we just talked about your day at school yeah today was a school day am i going back and it's fun to add a new thing into that so now she'd be like hey are you gonna wrap me up in padding and shove me down a mountain is that is today one of those days no oh good today one of those days when my feet get wet and i and i'm freezing and i don't like it no no we don't we're not doing that today 67 degrees we can't afford it today because of you i always i also i mean just from growing up there i know kind of when they stop checking tickets
Starting point is 00:36:13 at a certain point in the day and it's absolutely crazy that i should have to pay a lift ticket for everybody in my family who's just going to ride the bunny hill once i was like no i shouldn't have to do that so i work with them at the beginning of the day we eat lunch we work again a little bit and i know like around 132 they're going to stop checking lift tickets and i see it i see it in the line and i'm like here we go so i go and get my family all over there we get in the line and this guy just comes out and only checks our tickets and i was like fuck so i have a ticket from a few days before he scans he's like this is expired i was like oh shit yeah my new one's on my other jacket i left it in the cubby he's like just bring it when you come back through and i was like
Starting point is 00:36:54 yep he's like as long as the rest of your family's good and i was like oh uh no and so we step out of the line i have to go buy tickets for everybody in the family to go ride this fucking chairlift once. And then they didn't even, my daughter didn't even ski down the mountain. I was, I was so honestly heroic. It was heroic of me because I didn't blow up. I't get angry i didn't scream i was just like i've seen this happen a million times i grew up watching other families do this on vacation it's not gonna be me oh i want to so bad and you just can't put it anywhere and then a bunch of people on the yeah the chairlift are giving you awes because you're carrying your daughter it's like no i don't just let me let me nurture my anger a little bit longer stuff. And they're giving her Oz and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:37:49 she doesn't deserve it. Um, I, and you just got to swallow it. Like you just eat that up and then it goes down to you and, and becomes, um, cancer.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Yeah. That's how it happens. I love my dog, Jackson. I've talked about him on this podcast a million times he is part jack russell part dachshund all heart baby but he's 12 years old he's an old old soul uh with an old body and a young mind he's great but you know dogs get sick dogs fall down the stairs he falls down the stairs all the time and i love him he's my whole whole world. He's the best, even if he can't do stairs that great. Your pet is also one of a kind and so is their journey. While every playful moment is a memory in the making, sometimes our cats and dogs are a little too good at getting into trouble. That's
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Starting point is 00:40:05 Yeah. A lot of close calls on this trip. So I own a gun now. There's a lot of rules, it turns out, with a gun that I didn't know. I took it and I shot it at a shooting range. And then afterwards, I was like, I think i would like to have some ammo that i would just have at home um and so i go into this ammo store and i was like hey i'd like to buy some ammo and they're like all right that's fine here we just need to see your driver's license and your
Starting point is 00:40:36 birth certificate and i was like oh um i don't have my birth certificate here and like do you have like you could just send a picture of it to this email. So like I'm sitting there over the side and like looking for any time I've ever had to like fill out a W2 and send my birth certificate somewhere. Finally, I find it. I sent it to them and the guy's like, okay. And what's the,
Starting point is 00:40:56 what's the, is your, the gun that you have, this is for, is that registered to this address? And I was like, oh, it's not registered.
Starting point is 00:41:03 He goes, you, you can't have an under register like i'm like admitting to a felony essentially right it's very funny and you want to be like look i i think all of our gun regulations are are great i think it's awesome that we do it and i and i understand why you're doing it i like the background checks all that stuff if anything there should be more regulation but like i'm not not from i'm just like a like a normal guy so just like sell me the ammo please and then i'll be out of here look at me i'm cool you're doing great it's a great thing that you're doing but i'm i'm not gonna do any of the bad stuff that you're worried about come on over
Starting point is 00:41:39 our doors is holding my hand out and showing it to him being like look how steady that is look how steady just give me the ammo like what's the big it to him being like, look how steady that is. Look how steady. Just give me the ammo. Like what's the big deal. So, but like the look that I got from this guy of what's the worst that could happen. You just give me this ammo. Don't look from this guy.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I'm like, you fucking idiot. Why didn't you register your weapon? I was like, so how do I, I was like, I just went and picked it up from Colorado. And he's like, is it registered there? And i was like i just went and picked it up from colorado and he's like is it registered there i was like no because i also know that in colorado you don't have to register your weapon
Starting point is 00:42:11 so i was like no it's definitely not registered there it's old it's just this 22 i just brought it here how do i register it's like well you gotta go to the you gotta go to the doj website and you like tell them the serial number you got to probably send them pictures in fact most of the time they want to do like a test of the weapon to make sure it's safe wow i was like oh that sounds like a lot maybe i'll just be a guy who who doesn't own ammo who still owns an unregistered weapon but doesn't own any ammo um but no no so like i see the other part of today that i have marked off is like all right i gotta go through the doj and get this fucking gun i don't even want
Starting point is 00:42:50 registered yeah this ancient gun that barely fires and then you you're i'm i'm really excited to watch this this sudden surprising sharp turn into libertarian soren who doesn't want the government involved just i it's because it it occupies so much of my life because i had to figure out you know like how to get my firearm safety certificate and stuff like that all before i got it and figure out how to get it on an airplane months in advance i i've been learning so much about firearms and just gun ownership i had to take a test on gun ownership so i had to like know everything there was to know about gun ownership there's nobody in my life that i can talk to about this like nobody wants to fucking hear about guns but it's the only thing that i'm like doing right now and so i try to like i always try to like throw into a conversation
Starting point is 00:43:40 with colleen and she's like why are you telling me about this gun i don't even want you to have this gun and i'm like yeah i don't want it either but here's some information about it here so yeah it's been i tried to show it to my in-laws when they came they're like we don't see it i was like okay uh it's a it's a real shame robert evans moved out of california or he might be in california but like far enough north that it might as well be a different state. Because he loves guns in all the ways that you want a person to love guns that don't throw up any red flags or anything like that. Right. He really appreciates old guns and treats them respectfully.
Starting point is 00:44:27 really appreciates old guns and like and like and treats them respectfully uh but also is very open about like yes i also like loud thing go boom shoot thing which is like a thing that i uh i will go to my my bullet-ridden grave thinking that gun owners all think guns are really cool when they make loud gun noises, but so many of them refuse to say it. I understand it's like an overcorrection because they want to, you know, the line that you have to walk as a responsible gun owner is, this is for protection and I don't want to have to use it, but I have it because there are bad guys with guns. And if any of them come into my my house then i want to be able to protect it and i've talked to those people and i've always and i'm always like yeah yeah and also like guns are cool right like just say it and they don't say it and that's how i know they're lying yeah it's like yeah
Starting point is 00:45:17 protect the you know you don't it makes you nervous you don't want to have it protect the family from evildoers i get that but also guns are great we saw the same movies right matrix was cool when they took all those guns right just say it don't lie to me it's just that evans was always very open about like yeah guns are cool from movies and also respect he's a guy who's like if he's like if there were i wish that there were stricter gun regulations i would happily give all of these up i paid a lot of money for them but I also understand that it's silly that we're allowed to own these. And he's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:48 but I like owning them because they're really fun to shoot stuff. They're really, they're really fun. And I'm like, yeah, that's that. Yeah. It's everybody.
Starting point is 00:45:56 That's every single person. It's also, it's, it's a shortcut to power. That feels really nice. We're like, you inherently know it.'s uh as soon as you have one in your hand you're like oh i'm a way more dangerous person now and that commands respect
Starting point is 00:46:12 and so you oh boy i i know i think that's true i think that's true of everybody uh and i'll tell you that the minute that i said this gun also had a holster with it my grandfather had a this fucking rat it's like cool leather holster with a belt that you like put the 22 long rifle bullets in and everything it it it's it looks like it's from blood meridian honestly like it's so cool yeah and the minute i had this belt and everything and i got it home i was like and now time to put on the belt and put the gun in the holster and go look in the mirror. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Here we go. There it is. Got to do that. This looks cool. When can I wear this? Right. Not even to the range. There's no conceivable way that I would ever wear this holster with a gun in it in my entire life, except when I'm standing here looking in a mirror.
Starting point is 00:47:07 And boy. Yeah. It is very much to bring things full circle. Like, oh, I'm going to pick up a bass guitar when I'm 12 years old and start learning it because I like music and I want to play music and I'm going to learn how to do it. I'm going to do my lessons. I'm going to do my practice. And then when everyone's gone, I'm going to take my shirt off and I'm going to put the guitar on a strap and i'm going to carry it in front of a mirror and i'm going to make faces because that was the real reason for all of this that's the whole reason
Starting point is 00:47:34 for everything is like look how cool i look when i'm jumping carrying this bass guitar you have to know how to perform as well as play the instrument. There's nothing worse than watching a band that has not practiced this in front of a mirror. Like every single charismatic lead singer that you've ever seen, or like really great guitarist, like they, they did all that's all rehearsed.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Like they know what looks good because they've practiced it over and over and been like, Oh, that looks good. That doesn't look good. Oh, what I'm doing right there is not so hot and then they just make this basically like they distill it down to just the very cool moves and it all looks so effortless and natural because that's all they've practiced over and over and over again we went to go we were playing a show years ago and there was another band called uh spiraling which was another
Starting point is 00:48:23 piano band and the guy had his microphone uh the singer was also the piano player and he had his microphone on like a uh stand that he could like bat out of his way when he wanted it clear so he could just uh sing and there were so many times where he would like bat it to the perfect spot and bat it back and like very casually duck his head out of the way of getting hit by the swinging mic stand arm and make it look like he is just like doing a little stevie wonder head move uh but the three of us in our band were watching this like this fucking guy practice this this guy this is that's a lot of work. That's some really good mic stand timing that this guy had to work out by himself to make it look so effortless. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:12 That, uh, Justin Hawkins, who's the lead singer or was lead singer for the darkness. He has this theory about Corey Feldman because Corey Feldman has his own band. You know what I'm talking about? Uh,
Starting point is 00:49:21 Corey Feldman and the truth movement. There we go. I think I've talked about this the last time that we did video podcasts, how annoyingly proud I'm going to be every time I just know something and now the audience can see I'm not looking it up. Oh, right. This is big for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Fuck. I forgot how big this is going to be for you. Yeah. Okay. So he's got this theory. Even though I'm assuming every listener at home is like, no, we figured you knew Corey Feldman's name. We didn't. Not for one second did we think.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I don't doubt that you would know the name. Corey Feldman. There's a lot of footage online of Corey Feldman fucking up on stage. He's starting a lick and he's like getting really into it and then he goes to sing and just bucks it hits his teeth on the microphone and stuff like that where you're like oh that looked terrible and like you can't like even start the song and justin hawkins is convinced that this is all intentional like that this is performance art because he he also is very keenly aware of like where everything is on stage at all times like how to hold a microphone like where it's gonna watching cory fellman he sees all that in him he sees like his ability to do
Starting point is 00:50:37 that and then every once in a while there's just these like crazy errant things that are impossible to to do like these accidents that are just impossible when you know it that well. And he thinks that that's all intentional to build like an audience, I guess, or like get people's eyeballs on his shows or it's performance art. He doesn't really know what, but he's like, no, this man clearly is a front,
Starting point is 00:50:57 he's a front man. He knows what he's doing, but everyone's really just fucks up colossally. He certainly there's uh ascension millennium is a music video of cory feldman's that i've watched 10 000 times i did a obsessive pop culture disorder about it years ago and it's a mostly one long tracking shot of him going through his uh mansion or a mansion that he borrowed from a much wealthier friend yes and uh here's my pool i'm gonna do a little dancing and there's like a a good portion of the music video
Starting point is 00:51:33 is him trying to put a glove on and failing at a very basic task do you think that's on purpose yes well i don't i think justin hawkins that's on purpose on purpose because he also doesn't stop i mean here are the options that you have in that circumstances if it's not working and you're in the middle of a long take and you like put it on you there's some pageantry you can do where it's just not working and you just toss it or whatever like right there's there's ways out of that he does not take any of them he fucking can't get on gotta do this other move real quick now i'm gonna start trying to put it on again gotta do this other move and so i mean i'm i'm kind of with him i gotta get i guess i gotta watch more cory
Starting point is 00:52:15 feldman and the movement truth movement yeah that's better truth movement's better it sounds less like like he's he's taking a shit. Yeah. I guess I got to watch it again. But I do remember that video, how insane it is. It's like a super crazy- It makes him a much better artist if all of this is part of the performance, if it's all intentional. I like that read on him. I don't think I buy it, but that, that would make me respect him a whole lot more than I do now, which is none, not respect. Right. Well,
Starting point is 00:52:52 he just seems so unselfaware. And, and if that's a bit like committing to that and knowing it's going to make people hate you is I respect that. Yeah. Well, we got to where we wanted to be, which wasory feldman and the truth movement we did yeah so we can probably in the show circle moments yeah you can uh the show was quick question but you knew that already you could find the show on twitter you can watch this on youtube if you're just hearing it you can see our faces this whole time and i i did uh i'm gonna give myself a seven out of ten
Starting point is 00:53:26 for active listening because there were there were definitely a few parts in the ski story specifically where i'm i uh i think noticeably receive and check a text message and i'm uh constantly reaching for and playing with different things that are around my my desk here but you know seven out of ten is what i'm going to stick with that's anyway yeah you can uh watch this on youtube and see if you agree with that assessment we are on patreon we are we are releasing fun bonus episodes now with some kind of regularity that i will talk about later. Our show was by the incredible MeRex. You can find them at bandcamp.com slash MeRex. And you can email the show at qqwithsorinanddaniel at gmail.com. You can find us on Instagram and on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:54:18 And I believe that's it. If anyone wants to put my band on spotify please do that i tried and it's confusing i think then they make money from it i think i guess you weren't really no oh that's a great point i and and have it uh me make money from it and if it costs any money to get on Spotify, you do that cost. And then I, so I don't do it, but then I make the money. And then we don't speak, you and I. Do you only ever have records from live shows or did you actually like go into a recording booth and record tracks? We have a whole like five or six song album. I played you most of it.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Do you need me to do it again? I think I'd like you to come up with a reason that I have to listen to it. Alright, bye. Bye. I've got a quick, quick question for you, alright? I wanna hear your thoughts, wanna know what's on your mind I've got a quick, quick question for you, alright? The answer's not important, I'm just glad that we could talk tonight
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