Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - Hey Ya, But Folksy | Quick Question Ep. 303
Episode Date: October 7, 2025The guys solve sleeve thumb-holes earlier than expected, then move on to songs that slap-- specifically cover songs that slap-or at least did slap at one point in the mid-aughts.---- SHOW NOTES??Hey Y...a (Outkast cover) by Obadiah Parker (Matt Weddle): • Obadiah Parker - Hey Ya Cover I Think I Love You (The Partridge Family cover) by Tenacious D: • I Think I Love You Baby Got Back (Sir Mix-A-Lot cover) by Jonathan Coulton: • Baby Got Back Read "I Didn't Need To Know All of That About Travis Kelce", article by Rachel Handler (h/t @Vulture ): https://www.vulture.com/article/taylo...Read Murder on Sex Island by Jo Firestone: https://bookshop.org/p/books/murder-o...Daniel's substack: https://danielobrien.substack.com/ ----Thanks to ASPCA Pet Health Insurance for sponsoring this episode. To explore coverage, visit ASPCApetinsurance.com/QUESTION. The ASPCA is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance.Follow the guys on Bluesky!https://bsky.app/profile/danielobrien.bsky.socialhttps://bsky.app/profile/sorenbowie.bsky.socialBonus episodes 2x/month at patreon.com/quickquestion OR Apple Podcasts
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I've got a quick, quick question for you all right
I want to hear your thoughts on to know what's on your mind
I've got a quick quick question for you all right
The answer's not important I'm just glad that we could talk tonight
So what's your favorite?
Who did you get?
When do I be?
I remember
What's it out there?
Where did all that?
Go ahead
Oh, forget it.
I saw a movie Daniel O'Brien
Two best friends and comedy writers
If there's an answer
They're going to find it
I think you'll have a great time here
I think you'll have a great time here
It's the podcast
It's quick question with Soren and Daniel
The podcast with two best friends, etc and so forth
Soren I'm going to jump right in here
Oh, geez, Louise.
Okay.
Apologize.
Shoot on.
Hold on before I get in.
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To just our audio listeners who don't follow the show on YouTube, so you can't see what I'm doing right now.
But I'm wearing one of my backpacking, long-sleeve, hooded, breathable moisture-wicking shirts.
And it's got this thing, I'm going to show Soren, where it's got these built-in holes from my thumbs, where the sleeve becomes like quarter-glom.
love maybe, so it just hooks onto the thumb and covers some of my palm. Soren, what do we think
about this? What do we think about these? Do you think your shirt invented that? No, I don't think my
shirt invented it. I just, I got a new sweatshirt in the mail yesterday that also has these little
thumb loops. And I'm not going to put that on for the podcast because I might return it. I think that
those thumb loops are more useful than your hood on that parolong underwear.
Do you really? Yeah, I think that is completely useless. The very first time I put on a thing with
these pre-made thumb loops at the end of the sleeve, I thought, well, isn't that clever? It's like a
glove. That's also a sleeve. But then time has passed, and I've thought about it more. And it's
really not like a glove. It does very little glove work. It just has a really specific function.
Tell me what it is. Tell me what the specific function is. Okay, it's because you're not layering.
When you layer, it's very, it's much easier to stick your shirt through the other sleeves when you're
when you've got that in. And then also, if you're putting on gloves over it, then you're not in any
condition where like, if you're snowboarding or skiing or whatever, that when you're falling,
you're not getting snow up your sleeve, which is one of the worst things that happens to you
every single time you go skiing or snowboarding.
That makes so much sense.
Is that the only and explicit function with these things?
I don't know.
I've used them before.
I've got a jacket with them and when it's particularly cold out and I want to pull my sleeves
all the way down my arm, instead of just bunching them at the end,
I slip my little harnesses, my little thumb harnesses.
That is really handy.
It's so much better than like trying to pinch the sleeve when you're putting another layer on there.
Right.
So, yeah, I have used them in not that circumstance before,
But growing up, well, not even growing up,
but they didn't really have those growing up.
But like, in my older life,
I would use those all time for skiing and snowboarding
because I was like, oh, this is perfect.
This is stopping the one thing I hate the very most
about skiing and snowboarding.
I think here's where my confusion about it came in.
Because where I grew up, the wrong side of the tracks,
the punkers, the punk rockers that I loved and
respected but was was too too afraid and timid to like dress like and embody they would cut these
little holes in the sleeves of their black hoodies yeah and they would stick their thumbs through
it and it seemed like a like a like a fashion choice that I thought was so cool and so interesting
and they had like yeah like safety pinned messages to their hoodies and they're they destroyed
their clothing which was for to me was just like verboten you wouldn't destroy the clothes your
mother bought you she'll be so mad yeah but these punkers would do it and they had their thumbs
through the loops and i was like that's really cool and now they're selling it they're selling it they're
selling it and i i think it's less cool now but i think it's because i didn't know i've never
known until this moment what it was for yeah it's i i get i don't think they were using it for that same
purpose. But I agree with you. It was very much an aesthetic choice. We had those punkers.
We had those. Yeah, we had those kids where I grew up. One of them had a mohawk and the other,
they all smoked. And then I walked past them one day and this one guy in the group, he looked at me and I
kind of like knotted up at him and then kept walking. I was probably like nine. And he was like,
man, don't be scared of us. And I was like, what? And he was like, don't be scared of us.
We're told, we're just like you. And I was like, okay, all right. And like, that is just somehow
stuck with me my whole life that I walked past this group of guys I was scared of and this guy was
like I see that you're scared I see you and you shouldn't be we're harmless I remember one of the
punkers in my school and they have all of their different safety pinned messages all over their
sweatshirt and one of them uh this is just to show how fucking terrible post 9-11 jingoistic fervor was
in America, probably my sophomore year of high school, it must have been that someone had
safety-pinned pro-war as a statement on their sweatshirt. And I don't think it was ironic. I think
this was like a punk rocker who was genuinely like, I hate my parents in the system, but like,
we got to go out there and make those guys pay for 9-11. I love the troops so much.
Have you seen the movie Friendship yet? This is a small detour.
and then I'm walking right back.
So, what's, call him a while.
Connor O'Malley.
I know,
I already know what you're thinking,
and it's good.
It's,
Connor O'Malley is in that movie,
obviously,
because he's good friends with Tim Robinson.
And there is a moment where he's giving a speech.
He should not be giving in a house
with a woman who has recently survived
a traumatic event,
two traumatic events.
And like,
he doesn't really know anyone there that well,
but has decided to give a speech.
And at the end of it,
he's like,
I'm just going to leave you with this.
We should have never left Afghanistan.
We should still be there.
We should be helping those.
And I was like, oh, I kind of want to steal that.
Any time that there's like an opportunity to give a speech and I run out of steam,
I want to just jump into.
We never should have to Afghanistan.
If you are looking for a treat, there's a couple of different extended cutscenes from
friendship that are just
Connor O'Malley in character and
Tim Robinson in character sort of
riffing when is the two of them
in the garage. There's like minutes
of stuff that is on the cutting room
floor and
Connor O'Malley
is just
a master at dropping
incredibly rich
details into this
his specific kind of
weird jingoistic
in 2025 jingoistic
in 2025 jingoist
Patriot character
that just gets like
that he just has either
ready to
like either in his back pocket or
that just like spring to his mind
just these little details very similar
to uh I'll leave
you with this we never should have gotten out of
Afghanistan just these little like bits
of of dense
comedic joy
uh and explain his Vietnam hat
no
okay
because he also was a Vietnam hat
throughout the whole movie, and he's like 35.
It's just so much gold that he tosses out there to be cut out of this movie.
Yeah.
It's a real feast, Soren.
Well, Daniel, I have a quick question for you.
Do you want to jump into the show?
I guess we could jump into the show.
Let me check my notes.
We solve the sleeve thing.
The sleeve riddle.
Uh-huh.
That's a puzzle.
Believe it or not, that's all I came here with.
We're going to hash it out together and figure out what it does.
I felt so strongly that it was going to eat up a lot of time that I leapfrogged our intro.
Because I didn't want to go long today.
Yeah.
It really helps with my kids.
My kids are the ones who are really, they hate the idea of snow on their skin.
And so they want to cover their entire bodies as much as they can.
And so you get snow pants for them that have the bibs, like a full overall.
Then you're getting rid of it going down your pants, which is also, sucks pretty bad.
Sure.
But now their real issue is always with the gloves.
So I make sure to get long underwear for them that has those sleeves and that the long underwear is always long enough that they can pull it all the way down.
So they can just wear it like that when we go sledding or whatever.
It's so funny.
I'm not mad about progress.
It's good.
but the idea of children having agency over their feelings
they don't like the feel of snow on their skin
so we will address that
is so funny and foreign to me
where I think back to when I was a kid
I was like yeah I probably didn't like that either
but there was no solve for that
as I was snowboarding in jeans
it was just a thing that was gonna happen
You're wearing a sponge on your legs.
Yeah.
I, yeah, as a kid, it mostly had to do with cold and snow.
But there were things where I was like, this will not stand.
Like, realizing the way the world worked and seeing that everyone else was dealing with it fine and me being like, well, I'm different and I can't.
So like, I'm going to come up with something.
And coming up with my own little hacks to keep from ever having to deal with snow as a child in Colorado was, I mean, that's a very rich, rich area.
A child who does not like snow living in Colorado and forced to like ski and snowboard.
It's a, I'm like Eli Manning when I'm out there on a snowboard.
I'm like, yeah, I know how to do it, but I don't like it.
It's not your fault that you're good at it.
All my friends grew up to be in the X games and stuff.
And I was like, I don't think we should be doing this.
Surely we should be worn by a fire somewhere.
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in the business of insurance. All right, here we go. Daniel, I have a question for you.
Shoot, hit me. What is, oh, let me actually, look.
Let me walk this back just a little bit and get you and tell you how I got here.
My son is taking piano lessons.
I think I've talked about that on the podcast.
This is a thing that I don't.
This is the first time he's taking a lesson in something that I don't already know how to do.
And so I'm also not keeping pace.
Like I'm not watching over his shoulder as he's taking the lessons to figure out how to also play the piano.
I am not helpful in this one quadrant.
And it doesn't seem to bother him.
Drives me absolutely crazy.
It drives me nuts that I don't know how to do this and he has to do it alone.
Like, I hate it.
It's like this.
I don't make a big deal about it, but I'm like, it really, it really irks something in me that I can't help.
And like, he's just got to do this on his own.
So when he practices piano, I can't sit there with him and be like, oh, here's a nice shortcut.
Here's something that's helpful.
He's just got to do it.
And I don't like that.
I do like how good he is at it.
He's just like, I got it, I got it, it's fine.
Now, one of the things that he's doing on piano,
because with any instrument, you've got to learn the bass first
before you can never do anything remotely cool on the instrument.
Yeah.
Sorry, you don't have to learn, but B-A-S-E.
You saw me smirking.
You saw me happy about it.
You got to learn the bass first.
If you want to learn an instrument, you want to learn violin, bass first.
That's such an important clarification for you to jump in.
Like, oh, don't misunderstand.
No one needs to learn the bass.
No, the face just happens.
The face is something you fall into when somebody else is sick
and you would ordinarily be playing a different instrument.
He's got to learn, like, you know, the names of the keys,
how to recite read music, like all that stuff that sucks so bad early on
and you don't get any of the flavor of like what makes playing music cool.
Yeah.
But he's like, he's very patient throughout this stuff.
Again, I'm not.
I'm like, it's going to get good, man.
And he's like, it's fun.
And I'm like, it's not fun.
You know what the fuck you're talking about.
It's going to get fun.
And, oh, I should tell you, a friend of the show,
Sean Burey, his wife is my son's music teacher.
She doesn't teach her piano, but she's his music teacher.
So she teaches them, and she's got a great sense of humor.
She's very funny.
And she teaches them, I don't know why I'm being cagey about her name.
It's Molly Peters.
She's wonderful.
I should rush out her out on the show.
She gives the kids all kinds of fun stuff to listen to and try to play.
So, like, last year he learned Seven Nation Army on the recorder,
and then like I would the only reason I knew that is because at the park he was on those like marambas
they sometimes have at parks and he's playing seven nation army over there and I was like where did
where did you learn that he's like well and we learned it on the recorder and I was like yeah but
this isn't a recorder he's like yeah it just sounds the same and I was like yeah I can't do that
and then very few people can play anything on the marambas she's she's also had them listen to
come on feel the noise and so my son is pecking out very hesitantly on the piano come on
feel the noise, which is so funny.
It's like such a funny thing to listen to in the house.
Somebody learning, come on, feel the noise delicately.
But it made me wonder, Daniel, what is your favorite, all-time favorite cover song?
Like what cover song makes the song better?
And I can go first if you want.
You can.
I do want to get ahead of something because there's like there's a real temptation to be.
cute with this
and I'm I'm not gonna
take it but like there's
the
what I would have said in high school
would have been something like
I might not be positive about this
but like
torn from Natalie and Brulia
where people don't
people don't realize it's a cover
or a remake of a song
something like that where it's like
you pick a song that everyone knows
and it's like actually that's
a cover of an Otis Reddingtoon or whatever,
like that kind of thing where you pick the popular thing
that everyone knows. I'm not going to do that.
Oh, yeah, let me also give you some stipulations.
But I would like people to know that I could.
Let me give me some stipulations.
In the olden days, everyone would make the same fucking song.
That was just the way it worked.
Like someone would come out with the song
and everyone else would be like,
oh, I can't wait until Elvis does that song.
And then you get everybody like cycling through
like these various songs that everybody was going to do.
We're not doing that.
And we're also, I don't think that we should do,
I even think that we should cut out all along the watchtower.
I don't think those types of songs where the cover is already proven itself.
It's already a song that everyone's like, yeah, the cover's way better than the original.
I think we would cut those out as well.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now go ahead.
I think about a cover of Heyya by Outcast.
Outcast did the song.
This was an Andre 3,000 song.
I was like, what?
And then in early 2000s, there was this guy Matt Weddle, who was part of a band called Obadiah Parker.
But Matt by himself did this acoustic cover of Hayah.
And it probably sounds old hat today, the idea of someone doing like an indie acoustic cover of a pop.
or hip-hop song.
Okay.
It felt very novel at the time, first of all.
Second of all, the way I encountered the song is the way a lot of people did,
which was through like just a grainy YouTube video of a guy.
And it was like blurry and he's not like, it wasn't like a,
he didn't look like a rock star and it looked like a really small venue.
And he was just on stage with the guitar singing his fucking heart out and singing a really
really good arrangement of heya a song that i had heard 10,000 times a song that i had uh brag alert
played at a uh bat mitzvah with my band lunch money criminals yeah yeah yeah yeah um i don't think
we build ourselves as lunch money criminals for this bat mitzvah because um when you're playing
three hours of music you can't um stand behind all of it as
good so this was like this was a separate band that was fumbling through a money-making
somewhere only we know yeah this one I didn't want to didn't want to tarnish the track
record of lunch money criminals that's like when you sell out you go with a different
band we're probably just called the O'Brien's fine ruining our name but like I'd play that
song and I had the song memorized and I don't think I thought about the content of the song
or what was what it was about until this arrangement made me like hear the lyrics better.
It's so sad.
It's so sad and it's not just makes me think of the song in a different way, but it also
is like by the the guy makes the choice to sing every chorus at like,
basically the octave that I'm
speaking at now was like very quiet
like hey yeah
and then by
the time we reads like the great crescendo of the end
of the song he's optioned up
with the octave and he is like
belting this and his voice sounds so fucking
great and it just makes you
want to sing along in the car
which I did and do a lot
I would I found a way to rip the audio
from YouTube and put it
onto a mix CD so I could play it in my car and I have a very clear memory of
driving around Los Angeles scream singing that song and someone in a car next to me
clearly caught up in how much fun I was obviously having rolled down the window
and asked what I'm listening to. It's like I didn't do the research. It's like a
YouTube of this guy with a beard singing hey I'm like I can't give you any more
information than that. I got to go. I got to get out of it. And also, I got to start it over again.
I can't just like stop singing it. Um, yeah, you didn't come prepared. That's, that poor person has
no idea to this day what you were fucking doing. I want to find out what was so fun. Yeah. Um, so it's,
that song is a very sad song. You're saying like, like, like a copy shop vibe to it, this,
this version. Yeah. Okay. So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm blown away, first of all.
Like, I don't understand when people are making music,
how they know whether something is going to be a hit when they're making it.
And maybe sometimes they do and maybe sometimes they don't.
They must have known that this was going to be a hit because there's a moment in that song,
a very sad song, which is so fucking fun,
where Andre 3000 is like saying something really dark.
And then he goes, before it like jumps into the chorus again,
he goes, y'all don't want to hear me.
You just want to dance.
Like, he knew.
He knew that there was going to be a multi-generation.
song where as soon as it came on, humans just stopped talking at a party and started dancing.
Like they wanted it so bad. And he was like, this is going to be my Pied Piper song. And everyone
will fall in line. I can tell you. It doesn't matter what I say. At least one but possibly more
bat mitzvahs. That was the case. People did just want to dance. And like just calling his shot.
I talk so much about this, the Matt Whittle cover.
Andreak 3,000 is fucking great.
Nowcass is, they're a genius.
I don't want to take anything away from that and have this be like,
look at what this white indie kid did to make this song better.
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So, do you know, do you know why Andre 3000 was always dressing like he dressed?
No.
We're wearing sheep, sheep, legs, stuff like that.
I didn't either.
And then I saw a documentary recently where they were talking about during this filming of Equimony, I think, like the music videos for Equimony.
There was like, you had other people coming through it because they did a lot of songs with collaborations.
And all of a sudden, Andre 3000 was like, dressing insanely.
and some of these other big boy was all about it he was like he gets it he's like he's he's great
like who cares how he dresses and the other rappers some of the other rappers were like no
what the fuck is he doing they did not care for it the reason that under three thousand would
dress like that is because he's you know with the growing up with funk he was enamored with bands
like george clinton and the funkadelics right and so he every single one of those funk groups was like
treating it like they were bringing music from outer space and so that was his he was like
he was like he was carrying on that legacy of being like this should feel so foreign and crazy
that it feels like it's from another planet yeah like what we're doing is so different that it
it should feel like you've never heard it before and it's something completely new and so he
created like this idea that he was from the future or from another planet and like he was
bringing this to you and i think ATLians like plays off of that um and
And I was like, oh, that makes so much sense.
He should have done a single interview where he said that.
Because that rules.
Okay.
That's mine for right now until I think of another one.
That's a nice one.
I'm sure there are more, yeah.
Mine is also a context one.
My only other memory with this song, sorry, to go back to it,
is being a, this is something that I need to look into.
Because I was obsessed with the song.
I was also a massive Scrubs fan, the show Scrubs, created by Bill Lawrence, great guy.
And that show has a pretty remarkable soundtrack.
Like the music cues in that show are great.
There are a lot of early Fountains of Wayne stuff in there.
There's a lot of Rett Miller and Old 97s, a lot of this not super, super popular stuff
that that just always seemed to like perfectly fit the the moment of whatever song was happening.
I don't know if it was Krista Miller doing the music supervision on that show at that time.
I know she's done shrinking in Ted Lassow, but it wouldn't surprise me if she was also behind that.
There's an episode of Scrubs.
I think when they're in Hawaii and it's a wedding.
And Ted, who is in real life dead.
Sam Lloyd. He played the lawyer on that show, the wet lawyer, who was in an
a cappella group. I found a lot of kinship in this character. Yeah, this, this, a wet
acapella guy. He has a great voice. And in one of the Scrubs episodes, he sings this cover
of Hayah in a way that at the time made me like thrilled to hear it, but also
had a lot of
like legal and copyright ideas
floating my head of like
yeah it's a cuff like
it's outcast song
it's Andre's song
yeah Ted is singing
Matt's version of this song
that I don't know
Ted would have arrived at
otherwise
it really seemed like
music supervisors on Scrubs
were like this is
this is the perfect
version of this song
to score this
moment, we should do it instead of licensing the cover of the song. I don't know how the rights
would, uh, how they're supposed to work there. But it did jump out of me at the time as like,
I, it will really bum me out if people watching at home think that, think that this is like an
original scrub's music choice and not this poor guy who was filmed at an open mic night somewhere.
I think I don't, I don't know. I shouldn't even speak on it because I don't totally know with
residuals and like music rights and stuff but i think that everybody who helped create that
version gets a taste like they all wet their beak but i don't know i assume that whoever did the
original composition is the one who gets the most but i've been a similar situation with my
episode that i'm currently writing for our show american dad where there's a cover of mr bo jangles
that is in a movie called american movie which is a documentary but it's this guy mike shank who's
in that is playing mr bo jangles and it's like this really sparse
peeled back version of the song, and he's not singing along with it. It's just guitar, and it's so
sweet and great. And I was like, I want that. I want that so bad for this episode. But that song is
like, it's so far removed from the original creators of Mr. Bojangles, which is who? The nitty-gritty
dirt band? Who originally did Mr. Bo Jankle? So I'm in the same boat where I'm like, I don't even
know if this is possible. If I'm allowed to use this cover of a cover of a cover. Yeah, it's
it's tricky yeah i know i know that uh glee got in some trouble i don't know if it was ever
resolved but uh the show glee had their their little glee folks do a cover of baby got back
and it was like very clearly specifically the arrangement that uh jonathan colton did first and did
really well. And now that there's like he and he in his version included, he censored
one of those swear words with the sound of a duck quacking. And Glee also did that. And that's like
a cover is a cover. That the duck thing is like clearly holy Jonathan Colton's invention. And
I don't think he ever got like proper copy.
compensation directly from the Glee people.
I think he made out okay just because his fan base is big enough that they spread that
story enough that his version gets to the top of the iTunes charts and gets him some
amount of money.
Certainly didn't reach the heights of the Glee song and certainly didn't get any money
from the producers of Glee.
I think that's like par for the course with Glee, which famously, uh,
did not want to pay any artists to feature their songs on glee. They were always like, listen,
if you let our kids sing a version of Seven Nation Army on glee, it's going to get to the top of the
iTunes charts, and it's going to raise your profile. And for a lot of artists, like the, like,
the fray was probably very excited to get one of their songs featured on glee to get
whatever percentage of that would carve itself out to find.
out who wrote this song, let me buy tickets to the phrase concert. That was certainly the pitch.
Glee was like, this is going to be good for you if you give us this song for free.
It's diabolical. And they went to food fighters for exposure. They went to food fighters and the
food fighters were like, fuck off. We're not going to give you my hero for exposure. I've never
heard of Glee. You'll give us money for our song. Or that's it. You don't get the song.
I mean, even if I had heard of Lee, even if Glee was like, hey, we want to use your song and
like, it'll go to the top of like, that's great news. Now compensate me. Right. Like that's
that every one of those people it's it's so diabolical it was a different time also everyone was to like didn't know that you didn't that compensation couldn't just be exhibition yeah and uh but yeah it's so sad it's so sad that they people got away with that for so long anyway um i i want to tell you mine mine is also the first time i heard it was in a youtube video it is a guy who it he has changed the context of the
song in my opinion. Do you know who Josh
Weathers is? No. Okay. Musician
he does a cover of
I Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston
that is so full of emotioning good.
It's so wonderful. See, here's where I would be a
prick and say
I will always love you is not her song.
It's Daly Parton's song. Yeah, it is.
But I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it.
I'm being cool and related.
today instead.
So that, you know, Daly Parton crushed that song.
Obviously, Cushing, I don't really knows he's a Dolly Parton song.
Well, there's other guy, Josh Weathers, also covered it.
Man, you are just, not a great day to be a black person in Daniel's mind today.
Daniel will not give black people credit for a single thing.
Okay, so, so Josh Weathers, he has, I've heard this, I'd heard this song as like a cover
and thought, this is really good.
And then I didn't realize that the video is actually much longer.
There's another version of it in which he gives a preamble before he sings it.
I guess he does it as a lot of his shows.
But when he was a kid, he had a mom who was divorced and like they were moving around a lot.
And so it was just like these two and they were a team.
And she had a tape deck in her car, but they were so poor that they couldn't fix the car.
Like the tape deck, there was a tape stuck in it and it was the tape of the bodyguard.
So every day that they would drive anywhere.
they're listening to the entire soundtrack of the bodyguard
over and over and over again.
And his mom, like, didn't mind it
because she was really into a Whitney Houston,
huge fan of her.
And so he also, like, a lot of his musicianship,
he tributes to, like,
I had this voice belting at me all the time in this car,
the beautiful voice.
And so, like, I had no choice but to embrace it and, like, absorb it.
And so he now plays the song,
but he doesn't play it from the perspective of, like, somebody in a relationship,
you know, like an ending of a relationship, a sexual relationship.
He sings it to his mom as like the dynamic was not always great because she was a single mom
and there was a lot of fighting stuff, but like the way that they would,
the way that he still loves her, like that he sings it to her.
And it's so good when you like change the, who the song is to is like completely changes
what the song is. I'm like, oh, I really, really love this song now. So yeah, Josh
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Oh, something you want to say, but you can't decide if you should.
Well, no, it's not about, I'm trying to,
uh, it's, I just have thoughts in my head of a thing I just,
just learned before we started recording.
Okay.
On the day that we're recording, it's Friday,
October 3rd.
Taylor Swift just dropped her new album,
and there's a song on it.
That's all about her fiancé,
Travis Kelsey's hog.
What?
Yeah.
It's called Wood Woods or Woody.
I can't remember which of those it is,
but that's the ballpark.
It's interesting.
That's actually a Dully Parton song.
Is it that's so great
I'll take it
Woods Wood or Woody
Yeah
That's the name of the song
I was trying to think
There's got to be
Some way that I can link
The thoughts I have about the song
That Taylor Swift recorded
About her fiancee's dick
With the conversation that we're having now
And I'm just not
I have a lot of the ingredients
But
The recipe is all smudged
We listen to a lot of Taylor Swift in the car
because my daughter is big into Taylor Swift
and she does
something that I don't know
if she stole from the video
or how she would even have seen the video
but she listens to shake it off
big fan of that song
and she gets to that part
where Taylor Swift kind of raps almost
where she goes
my ex man and his new girlfriend
she's like oh my God
I'm just going to shake
and like that part
my daughter has an entire choreograph
thing that she does to that song
she's five but she has like this whole
choreograph thing
where she's like
could be getting down to this sick beat and then she like as she's doing it she's like flipping her hair
and doing this stuff and then at the end she does this thing where she's like I'm just going to shake
and she poses but she does this thing with her eyes which I think she's never seen in a mirror actually
and she thinks it looks really good or she assumes that it looks really good but it really just looks
like she's very tired because her eyelids get real low she goes I'm just going to shake and it's
makes me laugh so hard I absolutely love it but we end up listening to a lot
a lot.
Yeah.
Taylor,
so it's
completely
fuck my
Spotify.
Sure,
but
Taylor Swift
seems like
generally
a pretty
safe thing
for kids
to listen to
right?
Yeah.
She doesn't,
she doesn't,
not a lot
of swear words.
No,
no,
but she,
you know what?
I'll say
broad strokes,
yes,
you can,
it's not that
bad.
It is,
it kind of
sucks that every
single one
of her songs
is about a guy.
They're all
about relationships.
And I get
that's appealing.
Sure.
But when you're having your child listen to that, you're establishing this is what's important.
And I don't totally love that.
Yeah.
She doesn't have just songs about friendship.
She seems like she would have songs about friendship.
None of the popular ones.
None of the ones that show up on my fucking Spotify.
I shake it off as I guess is close.
She's also the one that's you need to calm down, which is about, it's about her enemies, basically.
It's about people that she doesn't like.
And then so many other songs are about breaking up, getting together, falling.
in love, liking somebody, being crazy in a relationship, somebody else being crazy in a relationship.
Like, there's so many of them are just about relationships.
And I'm like, is that every song?
And I start, like, looking around being like, are we, did I just not realize it until now?
But, and there are obviously a good portion, but it is sort of a bummer.
It's sort of a bummer that she is only doing relationship songs.
Well, life and times of a showgirl bucks that trend a little bit with having a song
about a person whose dick is so good you like their podcast.
I don't, I, that's a novel experience.
for the world, I think.
Wow.
What is that son?
That's not a...
That's the Travis Kelsey song.
No, that's the new one.
That's Woodward or Woody.
Yeah.
Okay.
That sucks pretty bad.
I don't want to...
No, fuck it.
What bridges do I have to burn with Travis Kelsey?
I think that guy's an idiot.
I think he's a football savant.
He's very good at one thing
and never learned a single other thing
in his entire life.
Yeah.
I think he is so handsome.
sometimes I can't even believe it like we watched the entire Travis was on the
podcast that he does with his brother McFoli also an absolute stud elk yeah no one's
writing songs about them as far as we know but I watched that podcast and I've never
listened to their podcast before but we watched it for for Taylor Swift News and it's it's
truly just like
arresting
how handsome and charming
I think Travis Kelsey is
because you say he's dumb
and he doesn't know anything
there is just something about him
that's wildly
likable
it's got to be that
fucking massive hug apparently
oh he's got those beautiful eyes too
just fall into
yeah
yeah and he does seem like he's
yeah nothing nothing shakes him
he can shake it all off
yeah
I don't think maybe I don't know him well enough to comment on whether I think he's a big dummy or not
he just always strikes me as just kind of an idiot and maybe that's unfair that could be completely unfair on my part
I will say you know mazzle to the two of them and I and I hope they get married and they're happy forever
I when happy Gilmore two came out this year and Travis Kelsey has a small role in it and it's not like
there are a lot of golfers who play themselves, a lot of people who play themselves.
He is playing a character in, in two scenes with, like, clear point of view.
And, you know, he's, he is snooty, shitty, uh, restaurant manager is his thing.
And I'm watching him, you know, he's got his hairstyle like he's an actor and he's handsome like an actor.
And I'm watching him and he's like, I think when he's done with football,
And it comes pretty clear, pretty early that acting is not his thing.
I think it's going to get pretty dark.
I think we're going to get everyone's on top of the world right now with the prom king and queen getting together.
But I think if his plan post football was to pivot to acting superstar, I don't think that's in the cards.
and I'm genuinely worried about what happens next.
Okay, Gabe has put it in the chat,
and I'm assuming that this must be lyrics from the song.
He stuck his longwood into my redwood forest,
and I let his sap ferment my roots.
Does that sound familiar to you?
Yeah.
That sucks pretty bad, man.
Is she getting dumber?
Oh, Dave says, sorry, that was parody.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Goodness.
I was trying to think, like, would any, would some, would a, would a woman have said my redwood forest?
Yeah.
Well, also the saffermint my roots.
Yeah.
Fermenting is like, is something you obviously want to link entirely to sexuality at every turn you can.
His love was the key to open my thighs.
Oh, that's way more specific.
That's the actual lyric from the song.
and also sucks kind of worse.
Yeah.
Because love was the key to open my thighs?
That's rough, man.
There's an article that's worth reading
that's in Vulture right now by Rachel Handler
called I didn't need to know all of that about Travis Kelsey.
And it's a really good read.
And I really appreciate that I got to learn all about the song
without listening to it or thinking about it too hard.
yeah wow yeah um yeah so we we had a moment in the car actually a couple moments in the car
where we listen to music and i just like have a i put Spotify DJ on or whatever and um go to town
came on which is a doja cat song and a song that i very much like bop into and it took me a while
to realize that that song was just about eating pussy and i was like oh okay well maybe i think we
maybe have like another year where we're still allowed to listen to this in the car where we'll
my children, and then I'm going to have to stop.
And then another one that was on was the Ariana Grande song, Bicycle, I think, which is
a song about getting railed so hard that you can't move the next day.
Oh.
And I didn't know that.
I didn't know any of that until it was explained to me.
I was like, oh shit, man, these pop stars are really, they don't mind just like throwing
it out there, being like, no, you know what?
I know that you recognize for me from Disney, but you should know.
that I'm a sexual creature in nature.
This is why I canceled that concert that time.
I couldn't fucking walk.
So anyway, I'm waiting for the covers of those.
I'm waiting for the toned-down coffee house version of those.
I'm really excited.
Excited for the kids' bop version of this Travis Kelsey Dick's song.
Yeah, it's going to be really nice when that comes out.
Oh, too bad glee is not anymore.
There would be a fun cover.
It's too bad glee is not anymore.
We're always saying that on this show.
So I have some, there's some honorable mentions I just want to throw out really quickly.
Okay.
One of them is Journey Through the Past, which is a James Mercer does this cover.
It's originally a,
Honest Harvest Moon, Neil Young, Neil Young.
Oh, God.
It's got to be an improvement.
Yeah, it's originally Neil Young song.
Journey Through the Past is gorgeous.
It's like this gorgeous.
piano version of it it's absolutely it's wonderful um and then this magic moment by lou reed which is
based on an old do-up song and it's really really really good now did you ever watch the show sex
education yeah first season okay so good so that first season i think in the second as well
there's a ton of ezra firman songs like the entire soundtrack is this guy esra firman who's wonderful
um but he also has i didn't realize an entire album that is just covers that he does and i would say
they're just like banger after banger.
He's doing like set these great new compositions of songs that are unbelievable and like change the entire old song.
So one of them is an LCD sound system song called I Can Change.
And it's the his version of it is fucking rad and it should be listened to.
I am trying to self-filter the other songs that I would add because I'm realizing
the race of the original artist and the race of the artist whose version I'm saying is
better song on this Rihanna cover but I can say tenacious D does a cover of I think I
love you that might be it feels like it's got to be in common in in conjunction with like
some animated Jack Black movie that he did and it's so
good. And when you get someone like Jack Black singing something, it immediately changes the whole
tenor and vibe of a song. And that's a song that I never think about or listen to. And it
fucking rips. It's cool. And it's a little bit scary. Really? Yeah. What's it called? I think I love you.
All right. I'll check that out. This is a, this is a, this is a, this has been such a good opportunity
for us on the podcast to play these songs as we talked about them. Yeah. No. It's your
job at this point. You're going to have to keep them all in the dome and figure out what
we're, just write them down on a sticky note or something. Go find them. We'll drop them in the show
notes, unless that's not a thing that we have on this show. I don't know. We have show notes. I don't even
know where those would live. Yeah. I also, anytime another show that I'm listening to is like,
we're going to drop this in the show notes. I don't know where that is for other shows.
I don't either. Yeah. I trust them. Yeah.
You're a crazy thing to lie about. I guess they must have.
websites?
I remember when we used to do websites?
Yeah, I remember websites.
Do you, I still like, so I do this, this substack, my reading newsletter that I'm still doing
on substack because I haven't read the thing that explains why substack is bad.
So as long as I keep myself in the dark, I never have to feel bad about what I'm doing.
And eventually, information will be forced upon me and I will delete it.
And I will delete substack and pivot to something else that is, right, as of now, less problematic.
But anyway, I was writing my reading letter and I was promoting a book by Joe Firestone called Murder on Sex Island.
And I wanted to link to bookshop.org to promote the book.
And I also wanted to link off to Joe herself in case people don't know who that is.
She's a writer comedian and she's very, very talented.
And she has a website.
and it's got like here's where you can buy my books
here are some clips of mine you could find online
here is like a bunch of my works
and for business inquiries
you can have this contact information
sorry you don't have a website right
no fuck no I don't either
I don't even think this podcast has a website that
I don't think so either wait is blue sky mine
I don't actually know I think my
I believe I'm the only one there
I think my
a substack that is that might be run by Nazis I think might be the closest thing I have to a website
no I don't have a website that's a cool idea though I'd love to have a website oh all these these
writers and comedians and performers and stuff who are just like yeah if you want to hire me
here's all of my stuff here's like documentation of the work that I've been doing for my
career and it's like hey I'd like to get hired one day I wonder if I should have
one of these web sites.
I wonder if any of my stuff is left
from the world.
When I did
Behind the Bastards,
which is a very,
a show that's so much more popular than ours.
And like even their, they're,
they actually talk about real information on it.
Yeah.
And they release their episodes on YouTube and it's just like 20s and
30,000 views just on YouTube.
It's completely separate from however else people
experience their podcast.
And it's like,
this would be,
I should,
I should like promote our podcast or the Patreon for the podcast or the book that I
one of the books that I wrote that I still want people to buy even though I keep forgetting
about it and the best I got was like the first the most recent post in my Instagram was like
list the dead presidents and the Patreon for quick question it's not like it's not a very
actionable link
to get anyone to do anything
That's true
You're going to have to go find it
If you really love what you heard on this podcast
And you want to know more about me
I do like pictures of my wife on Instagram
And I have a podcast that I do sometimes
And Blue Sky I'm still trying to figure out
What I want my Blue Sky presence to be
I have my awesome club on Substack
If you want my attention
You've got to be a really interesting
bug in my garage
Yeah.
I will pay attention to you.
Then I'll take a lot of pictures.
If you follow me on Blue Sky and your avatar looks professional,
then I might click through to see who you are because you might be famous.
Right.
But otherwise, I'm ostensibly unreachable.
Yeah.
And you can't find anything about me.
That's a good way to leave it, I think.
A mishandled career.
Thank you, everybody, for listening.
Daniel, you have seven Emmys.
You're fucking fine.
Yeah, but someone should write that down somewhere
on the same website that has my blue sky.
Yeah.
Everybody, thank you for listening.
This has been a quick question with Sorin, Daniel.
Obviously, if you have a song that we missed,
a cover that we missed,
put it in the show notes,
because I think you have access to that.
Drop it in the show notes, please.
I think you have better access than we do.
And we'll take a look at it.
at those someday.
And that's about it.
Actually, I am pretty reachable on Blue Sky.
If you really do have something you want to say to Daniel, I generally do pass that
information along.
He does.
So, you know, I'm available.
I'm just hanging out.
Waiting to talk, waiting to chat, waiting to make new friends.
I think, by the way, I might leave, I might leave Blue Sky too.
It's not toxic in the same way that Twitter was toxic, but I'd been really
doggedly trying to make blue sky just like dumb joke the same way that you do just like
here's some dumb jokes it's barely any self-promotion just like here's some stuff and i was writing
a joke that is continuation on a series of of observations i've had about peeing and how i pee too
much and i want to pee less and uh the the joke was something about how i've entered the cycle
of drinking less water so i pee with less frequency but then i get headaches and we're all
having lots of fun with it and then someone was like why would be why would peeing frequently be a
bad thing it's better than being dehydrated i'm like this fucking sucks i can't go anywhere
yeah yeah i was i recently just like had a really good political joke and did it i was like
i got to put this up and it did so well that i was like oh fuck that's the only shit that that's
good is kill on this website i don't know i mean i'm not on this website to kill i didn't think but then all of
and it happens. And I'm like, oh, no, I think I'd like the attention.
And this is the way to get the attention. Am I now going to do this all over again?
Don't you do it. Trying to keep it fun. Trying to keep it fun. All right. Well, thank you for listening.
Me Rex, Gabe Harder, Daniel O'Brien, bacon, all the good folks who make this podcast.
We'll talk to you again next week. Bye.
Bye.
Where are you all right?
I want to hear your thoughts
I want to know what's on your mind.
I've got a quick, quick question for you all right.
The answer's not important.
I'm just glad that we could talk tonight.
So what's your favorite?
Who did you get?
When did I be?
Remember?
What's it out?
Where did all?
Oh, forget it.
I saw a movie Daniel O'Brien.
Two best friends and comedy writers.
If there's an answer, they're gonna find it.
I think you'll have a great time here.
I think you'll have a great time here.
