Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - Hey Ya, But Folksy | Quick Question Ep. 303

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

The guys solve sleeve thumb-holes earlier than expected, then move on to songs that slap-- specifically cover songs that slap-or at least did slap at one point in the mid-aughts.---- SHOW NOTES??Hey Y...a (Outkast cover) by Obadiah Parker (Matt Weddle):    • Obadiah Parker - Hey Ya Cover  I Think I Love You (The Partridge Family cover) by Tenacious D:    • I Think I Love You  Baby Got Back (Sir Mix-A-Lot cover) by Jonathan Coulton:    • Baby Got Back  Read "I Didn't Need To Know All of That About Travis Kelce", article by Rachel Handler (h/t @Vulture ): https://www.vulture.com/article/taylo...Read Murder on Sex Island by Jo Firestone: https://bookshop.org/p/books/murder-o...Daniel's substack: https://danielobrien.substack.com/ ----Thanks to ASPCA Pet Health Insurance for sponsoring this episode. To explore coverage, visit ASPCApetinsurance.com/QUESTION. The ASPCA is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance.Follow the guys on Bluesky!https://bsky.app/profile/danielobrien.bsky.socialhttps://bsky.app/profile/sorenbowie.bsky.socialBonus episodes 2x/month at patreon.com/quickquestion OR Apple Podcasts

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've got a quick, quick question for you all right I want to hear your thoughts on to know what's on your mind I've got a quick quick question for you all right The answer's not important I'm just glad that we could talk tonight So what's your favorite? Who did you get? When do I be? I remember
Starting point is 00:00:22 What's it out there? Where did all that? Go ahead Oh, forget it. I saw a movie Daniel O'Brien Two best friends and comedy writers If there's an answer They're going to find it
Starting point is 00:00:37 I think you'll have a great time here I think you'll have a great time here It's the podcast It's quick question with Soren and Daniel The podcast with two best friends, etc and so forth Soren I'm going to jump right in here Oh, geez, Louise. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Apologize. Shoot on. Hold on before I get in. Thank you to ASPCA pet insurance for supporting quick question. To explore coverage, visit ASPCA petinsurance.com slash question. This is a paid advertisement. Insurance is underwritten by either Independence American Insurance Company or United States Fire Insurance Company
Starting point is 00:01:18 and produced by PTZ Insurance Agency Limited. The ASPCA is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance. To just our audio listeners who don't follow the show on YouTube, so you can't see what I'm doing right now. But I'm wearing one of my backpacking, long-sleeve, hooded, breathable moisture-wicking shirts. And it's got this thing, I'm going to show Soren, where it's got these built-in holes from my thumbs, where the sleeve becomes like quarter-glom. love maybe, so it just hooks onto the thumb and covers some of my palm. Soren, what do we think about this? What do we think about these? Do you think your shirt invented that? No, I don't think my shirt invented it. I just, I got a new sweatshirt in the mail yesterday that also has these little
Starting point is 00:02:17 thumb loops. And I'm not going to put that on for the podcast because I might return it. I think that those thumb loops are more useful than your hood on that parolong underwear. Do you really? Yeah, I think that is completely useless. The very first time I put on a thing with these pre-made thumb loops at the end of the sleeve, I thought, well, isn't that clever? It's like a glove. That's also a sleeve. But then time has passed, and I've thought about it more. And it's really not like a glove. It does very little glove work. It just has a really specific function. Tell me what it is. Tell me what the specific function is. Okay, it's because you're not layering. When you layer, it's very, it's much easier to stick your shirt through the other sleeves when you're
Starting point is 00:03:06 when you've got that in. And then also, if you're putting on gloves over it, then you're not in any condition where like, if you're snowboarding or skiing or whatever, that when you're falling, you're not getting snow up your sleeve, which is one of the worst things that happens to you every single time you go skiing or snowboarding. That makes so much sense. Is that the only and explicit function with these things? I don't know. I've used them before.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I've got a jacket with them and when it's particularly cold out and I want to pull my sleeves all the way down my arm, instead of just bunching them at the end, I slip my little harnesses, my little thumb harnesses. That is really handy. It's so much better than like trying to pinch the sleeve when you're putting another layer on there. Right. So, yeah, I have used them in not that circumstance before, But growing up, well, not even growing up,
Starting point is 00:03:51 but they didn't really have those growing up. But like, in my older life, I would use those all time for skiing and snowboarding because I was like, oh, this is perfect. This is stopping the one thing I hate the very most about skiing and snowboarding. I think here's where my confusion about it came in. Because where I grew up, the wrong side of the tracks,
Starting point is 00:04:12 the punkers, the punk rockers that I loved and respected but was was too too afraid and timid to like dress like and embody they would cut these little holes in the sleeves of their black hoodies yeah and they would stick their thumbs through it and it seemed like a like a like a fashion choice that I thought was so cool and so interesting and they had like yeah like safety pinned messages to their hoodies and they're they destroyed their clothing which was for to me was just like verboten you wouldn't destroy the clothes your mother bought you she'll be so mad yeah but these punkers would do it and they had their thumbs through the loops and i was like that's really cool and now they're selling it they're selling it they're
Starting point is 00:05:00 selling it and i i think it's less cool now but i think it's because i didn't know i've never known until this moment what it was for yeah it's i i get i don't think they were using it for that same purpose. But I agree with you. It was very much an aesthetic choice. We had those punkers. We had those. Yeah, we had those kids where I grew up. One of them had a mohawk and the other, they all smoked. And then I walked past them one day and this one guy in the group, he looked at me and I kind of like knotted up at him and then kept walking. I was probably like nine. And he was like, man, don't be scared of us. And I was like, what? And he was like, don't be scared of us. We're told, we're just like you. And I was like, okay, all right. And like, that is just somehow
Starting point is 00:05:41 stuck with me my whole life that I walked past this group of guys I was scared of and this guy was like I see that you're scared I see you and you shouldn't be we're harmless I remember one of the punkers in my school and they have all of their different safety pinned messages all over their sweatshirt and one of them uh this is just to show how fucking terrible post 9-11 jingoistic fervor was in America, probably my sophomore year of high school, it must have been that someone had safety-pinned pro-war as a statement on their sweatshirt. And I don't think it was ironic. I think this was like a punk rocker who was genuinely like, I hate my parents in the system, but like, we got to go out there and make those guys pay for 9-11. I love the troops so much.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Have you seen the movie Friendship yet? This is a small detour. and then I'm walking right back. So, what's, call him a while. Connor O'Malley. I know, I already know what you're thinking, and it's good. It's,
Starting point is 00:06:51 Connor O'Malley is in that movie, obviously, because he's good friends with Tim Robinson. And there is a moment where he's giving a speech. He should not be giving in a house with a woman who has recently survived a traumatic event, two traumatic events.
Starting point is 00:07:03 And like, he doesn't really know anyone there that well, but has decided to give a speech. And at the end of it, he's like, I'm just going to leave you with this. We should have never left Afghanistan. We should still be there.
Starting point is 00:07:13 We should be helping those. And I was like, oh, I kind of want to steal that. Any time that there's like an opportunity to give a speech and I run out of steam, I want to just jump into. We never should have to Afghanistan. If you are looking for a treat, there's a couple of different extended cutscenes from friendship that are just Connor O'Malley in character and
Starting point is 00:07:41 Tim Robinson in character sort of riffing when is the two of them in the garage. There's like minutes of stuff that is on the cutting room floor and Connor O'Malley is just a master at dropping
Starting point is 00:07:57 incredibly rich details into this his specific kind of weird jingoistic in 2025 jingoistic in 2025 jingoist Patriot character that just gets like
Starting point is 00:08:10 that he just has either ready to like either in his back pocket or that just like spring to his mind just these little details very similar to uh I'll leave you with this we never should have gotten out of Afghanistan just these little like bits
Starting point is 00:08:27 of of dense comedic joy uh and explain his Vietnam hat no okay because he also was a Vietnam hat throughout the whole movie, and he's like 35. It's just so much gold that he tosses out there to be cut out of this movie.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Yeah. It's a real feast, Soren. Well, Daniel, I have a quick question for you. Do you want to jump into the show? I guess we could jump into the show. Let me check my notes. We solve the sleeve thing. The sleeve riddle.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Uh-huh. That's a puzzle. Believe it or not, that's all I came here with. We're going to hash it out together and figure out what it does. I felt so strongly that it was going to eat up a lot of time that I leapfrogged our intro. Because I didn't want to go long today. Yeah. It really helps with my kids.
Starting point is 00:09:27 My kids are the ones who are really, they hate the idea of snow on their skin. And so they want to cover their entire bodies as much as they can. And so you get snow pants for them that have the bibs, like a full overall. Then you're getting rid of it going down your pants, which is also, sucks pretty bad. Sure. But now their real issue is always with the gloves. So I make sure to get long underwear for them that has those sleeves and that the long underwear is always long enough that they can pull it all the way down. So they can just wear it like that when we go sledding or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:01 It's so funny. I'm not mad about progress. It's good. but the idea of children having agency over their feelings they don't like the feel of snow on their skin so we will address that is so funny and foreign to me where I think back to when I was a kid
Starting point is 00:10:21 I was like yeah I probably didn't like that either but there was no solve for that as I was snowboarding in jeans it was just a thing that was gonna happen You're wearing a sponge on your legs. Yeah. I, yeah, as a kid, it mostly had to do with cold and snow. But there were things where I was like, this will not stand.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Like, realizing the way the world worked and seeing that everyone else was dealing with it fine and me being like, well, I'm different and I can't. So like, I'm going to come up with something. And coming up with my own little hacks to keep from ever having to deal with snow as a child in Colorado was, I mean, that's a very rich, rich area. A child who does not like snow living in Colorado and forced to like ski and snowboard. It's a, I'm like Eli Manning when I'm out there on a snowboard. I'm like, yeah, I know how to do it, but I don't like it. It's not your fault that you're good at it. All my friends grew up to be in the X games and stuff.
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Starting point is 00:13:25 Shoot, hit me. What is, oh, let me actually, look. Let me walk this back just a little bit and get you and tell you how I got here. My son is taking piano lessons. I think I've talked about that on the podcast. This is a thing that I don't. This is the first time he's taking a lesson in something that I don't already know how to do. And so I'm also not keeping pace. Like I'm not watching over his shoulder as he's taking the lessons to figure out how to also play the piano.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I am not helpful in this one quadrant. And it doesn't seem to bother him. Drives me absolutely crazy. It drives me nuts that I don't know how to do this and he has to do it alone. Like, I hate it. It's like this. I don't make a big deal about it, but I'm like, it really, it really irks something in me that I can't help. And like, he's just got to do this on his own.
Starting point is 00:14:18 So when he practices piano, I can't sit there with him and be like, oh, here's a nice shortcut. Here's something that's helpful. He's just got to do it. And I don't like that. I do like how good he is at it. He's just like, I got it, I got it, it's fine. Now, one of the things that he's doing on piano, because with any instrument, you've got to learn the bass first
Starting point is 00:14:37 before you can never do anything remotely cool on the instrument. Yeah. Sorry, you don't have to learn, but B-A-S-E. You saw me smirking. You saw me happy about it. You got to learn the bass first. If you want to learn an instrument, you want to learn violin, bass first. That's such an important clarification for you to jump in.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Like, oh, don't misunderstand. No one needs to learn the bass. No, the face just happens. The face is something you fall into when somebody else is sick and you would ordinarily be playing a different instrument. He's got to learn, like, you know, the names of the keys, how to recite read music, like all that stuff that sucks so bad early on and you don't get any of the flavor of like what makes playing music cool.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah. But he's like, he's very patient throughout this stuff. Again, I'm not. I'm like, it's going to get good, man. And he's like, it's fun. And I'm like, it's not fun. You know what the fuck you're talking about. It's going to get fun.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And, oh, I should tell you, a friend of the show, Sean Burey, his wife is my son's music teacher. She doesn't teach her piano, but she's his music teacher. So she teaches them, and she's got a great sense of humor. She's very funny. And she teaches them, I don't know why I'm being cagey about her name. It's Molly Peters. She's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I should rush out her out on the show. She gives the kids all kinds of fun stuff to listen to and try to play. So, like, last year he learned Seven Nation Army on the recorder, and then like I would the only reason I knew that is because at the park he was on those like marambas they sometimes have at parks and he's playing seven nation army over there and I was like where did where did you learn that he's like well and we learned it on the recorder and I was like yeah but this isn't a recorder he's like yeah it just sounds the same and I was like yeah I can't do that and then very few people can play anything on the marambas she's she's also had them listen to
Starting point is 00:16:20 come on feel the noise and so my son is pecking out very hesitantly on the piano come on feel the noise, which is so funny. It's like such a funny thing to listen to in the house. Somebody learning, come on, feel the noise delicately. But it made me wonder, Daniel, what is your favorite, all-time favorite cover song? Like what cover song makes the song better? And I can go first if you want. You can.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I do want to get ahead of something because there's like there's a real temptation to be. cute with this and I'm I'm not gonna take it but like there's the what I would have said in high school would have been something like I might not be positive about this
Starting point is 00:17:14 but like torn from Natalie and Brulia where people don't people don't realize it's a cover or a remake of a song something like that where it's like you pick a song that everyone knows and it's like actually that's
Starting point is 00:17:27 a cover of an Otis Reddingtoon or whatever, like that kind of thing where you pick the popular thing that everyone knows. I'm not going to do that. Oh, yeah, let me also give you some stipulations. But I would like people to know that I could. Let me give me some stipulations. In the olden days, everyone would make the same fucking song. That was just the way it worked.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Like someone would come out with the song and everyone else would be like, oh, I can't wait until Elvis does that song. And then you get everybody like cycling through like these various songs that everybody was going to do. We're not doing that. And we're also, I don't think that we should do, I even think that we should cut out all along the watchtower.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I don't think those types of songs where the cover is already proven itself. It's already a song that everyone's like, yeah, the cover's way better than the original. I think we would cut those out as well. Yeah. Okay. Now go ahead. I think about a cover of Heyya by Outcast. Outcast did the song.
Starting point is 00:18:23 This was an Andre 3,000 song. I was like, what? And then in early 2000s, there was this guy Matt Weddle, who was part of a band called Obadiah Parker. But Matt by himself did this acoustic cover of Hayah. And it probably sounds old hat today, the idea of someone doing like an indie acoustic cover of a pop. or hip-hop song. Okay. It felt very novel at the time, first of all.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Second of all, the way I encountered the song is the way a lot of people did, which was through like just a grainy YouTube video of a guy. And it was like blurry and he's not like, it wasn't like a, he didn't look like a rock star and it looked like a really small venue. And he was just on stage with the guitar singing his fucking heart out and singing a really really good arrangement of heya a song that i had heard 10,000 times a song that i had uh brag alert played at a uh bat mitzvah with my band lunch money criminals yeah yeah yeah yeah um i don't think we build ourselves as lunch money criminals for this bat mitzvah because um when you're playing
Starting point is 00:19:49 three hours of music you can't um stand behind all of it as good so this was like this was a separate band that was fumbling through a money-making somewhere only we know yeah this one I didn't want to didn't want to tarnish the track record of lunch money criminals that's like when you sell out you go with a different band we're probably just called the O'Brien's fine ruining our name but like I'd play that song and I had the song memorized and I don't think I thought about the content of the song or what was what it was about until this arrangement made me like hear the lyrics better. It's so sad.
Starting point is 00:20:37 It's so sad and it's not just makes me think of the song in a different way, but it also is like by the the guy makes the choice to sing every chorus at like, basically the octave that I'm speaking at now was like very quiet like hey yeah and then by the time we reads like the great crescendo of the end of the song he's optioned up
Starting point is 00:21:06 with the octave and he is like belting this and his voice sounds so fucking great and it just makes you want to sing along in the car which I did and do a lot I would I found a way to rip the audio from YouTube and put it onto a mix CD so I could play it in my car and I have a very clear memory of
Starting point is 00:21:28 driving around Los Angeles scream singing that song and someone in a car next to me clearly caught up in how much fun I was obviously having rolled down the window and asked what I'm listening to. It's like I didn't do the research. It's like a YouTube of this guy with a beard singing hey I'm like I can't give you any more information than that. I got to go. I got to get out of it. And also, I got to start it over again. I can't just like stop singing it. Um, yeah, you didn't come prepared. That's, that poor person has no idea to this day what you were fucking doing. I want to find out what was so fun. Yeah. Um, so it's, that song is a very sad song. You're saying like, like, like a copy shop vibe to it, this,
Starting point is 00:22:17 this version. Yeah. Okay. So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm blown away, first of all. Like, I don't understand when people are making music, how they know whether something is going to be a hit when they're making it. And maybe sometimes they do and maybe sometimes they don't. They must have known that this was going to be a hit because there's a moment in that song, a very sad song, which is so fucking fun, where Andre 3000 is like saying something really dark.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And then he goes, before it like jumps into the chorus again, he goes, y'all don't want to hear me. You just want to dance. Like, he knew. He knew that there was going to be a multi-generation. song where as soon as it came on, humans just stopped talking at a party and started dancing. Like they wanted it so bad. And he was like, this is going to be my Pied Piper song. And everyone will fall in line. I can tell you. It doesn't matter what I say. At least one but possibly more
Starting point is 00:23:10 bat mitzvahs. That was the case. People did just want to dance. And like just calling his shot. I talk so much about this, the Matt Whittle cover. Andreak 3,000 is fucking great. Nowcass is, they're a genius. I don't want to take anything away from that and have this be like, look at what this white indie kid did to make this song better. Hi, I'm Darren Marler. Host of the Weird Darkness podcast.
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Starting point is 00:24:52 And then I saw a documentary recently where they were talking about during this filming of Equimony, I think, like the music videos for Equimony. There was like, you had other people coming through it because they did a lot of songs with collaborations. And all of a sudden, Andre 3000 was like, dressing insanely. and some of these other big boy was all about it he was like he gets it he's like he's he's great like who cares how he dresses and the other rappers some of the other rappers were like no what the fuck is he doing they did not care for it the reason that under three thousand would dress like that is because he's you know with the growing up with funk he was enamored with bands like george clinton and the funkadelics right and so he every single one of those funk groups was like
Starting point is 00:25:36 treating it like they were bringing music from outer space and so that was his he was like he was like he was carrying on that legacy of being like this should feel so foreign and crazy that it feels like it's from another planet yeah like what we're doing is so different that it it should feel like you've never heard it before and it's something completely new and so he created like this idea that he was from the future or from another planet and like he was bringing this to you and i think ATLians like plays off of that um and And I was like, oh, that makes so much sense. He should have done a single interview where he said that.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Because that rules. Okay. That's mine for right now until I think of another one. That's a nice one. I'm sure there are more, yeah. Mine is also a context one. My only other memory with this song, sorry, to go back to it, is being a, this is something that I need to look into.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Because I was obsessed with the song. I was also a massive Scrubs fan, the show Scrubs, created by Bill Lawrence, great guy. And that show has a pretty remarkable soundtrack. Like the music cues in that show are great. There are a lot of early Fountains of Wayne stuff in there. There's a lot of Rett Miller and Old 97s, a lot of this not super, super popular stuff that that just always seemed to like perfectly fit the the moment of whatever song was happening. I don't know if it was Krista Miller doing the music supervision on that show at that time.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I know she's done shrinking in Ted Lassow, but it wouldn't surprise me if she was also behind that. There's an episode of Scrubs. I think when they're in Hawaii and it's a wedding. And Ted, who is in real life dead. Sam Lloyd. He played the lawyer on that show, the wet lawyer, who was in an a cappella group. I found a lot of kinship in this character. Yeah, this, this, a wet acapella guy. He has a great voice. And in one of the Scrubs episodes, he sings this cover of Hayah in a way that at the time made me like thrilled to hear it, but also
Starting point is 00:28:03 had a lot of like legal and copyright ideas floating my head of like yeah it's a cuff like it's outcast song it's Andre's song yeah Ted is singing Matt's version of this song
Starting point is 00:28:20 that I don't know Ted would have arrived at otherwise it really seemed like music supervisors on Scrubs were like this is this is the perfect version of this song
Starting point is 00:28:33 to score this moment, we should do it instead of licensing the cover of the song. I don't know how the rights would, uh, how they're supposed to work there. But it did jump out of me at the time as like, I, it will really bum me out if people watching at home think that, think that this is like an original scrub's music choice and not this poor guy who was filmed at an open mic night somewhere. I think I don't, I don't know. I shouldn't even speak on it because I don't totally know with residuals and like music rights and stuff but i think that everybody who helped create that version gets a taste like they all wet their beak but i don't know i assume that whoever did the
Starting point is 00:29:13 original composition is the one who gets the most but i've been a similar situation with my episode that i'm currently writing for our show american dad where there's a cover of mr bo jangles that is in a movie called american movie which is a documentary but it's this guy mike shank who's in that is playing mr bo jangles and it's like this really sparse peeled back version of the song, and he's not singing along with it. It's just guitar, and it's so sweet and great. And I was like, I want that. I want that so bad for this episode. But that song is like, it's so far removed from the original creators of Mr. Bojangles, which is who? The nitty-gritty dirt band? Who originally did Mr. Bo Jankle? So I'm in the same boat where I'm like, I don't even
Starting point is 00:29:56 know if this is possible. If I'm allowed to use this cover of a cover of a cover. Yeah, it's it's tricky yeah i know i know that uh glee got in some trouble i don't know if it was ever resolved but uh the show glee had their their little glee folks do a cover of baby got back and it was like very clearly specifically the arrangement that uh jonathan colton did first and did really well. And now that there's like he and he in his version included, he censored one of those swear words with the sound of a duck quacking. And Glee also did that. And that's like a cover is a cover. That the duck thing is like clearly holy Jonathan Colton's invention. And I don't think he ever got like proper copy.
Starting point is 00:31:02 compensation directly from the Glee people. I think he made out okay just because his fan base is big enough that they spread that story enough that his version gets to the top of the iTunes charts and gets him some amount of money. Certainly didn't reach the heights of the Glee song and certainly didn't get any money from the producers of Glee. I think that's like par for the course with Glee, which famously, uh, did not want to pay any artists to feature their songs on glee. They were always like, listen,
Starting point is 00:31:40 if you let our kids sing a version of Seven Nation Army on glee, it's going to get to the top of the iTunes charts, and it's going to raise your profile. And for a lot of artists, like the, like, the fray was probably very excited to get one of their songs featured on glee to get whatever percentage of that would carve itself out to find. out who wrote this song, let me buy tickets to the phrase concert. That was certainly the pitch. Glee was like, this is going to be good for you if you give us this song for free. It's diabolical. And they went to food fighters for exposure. They went to food fighters and the food fighters were like, fuck off. We're not going to give you my hero for exposure. I've never
Starting point is 00:32:18 heard of Glee. You'll give us money for our song. Or that's it. You don't get the song. I mean, even if I had heard of Lee, even if Glee was like, hey, we want to use your song and like, it'll go to the top of like, that's great news. Now compensate me. Right. Like that's that every one of those people it's it's so diabolical it was a different time also everyone was to like didn't know that you didn't that compensation couldn't just be exhibition yeah and uh but yeah it's so sad it's so sad that they people got away with that for so long anyway um i i want to tell you mine mine is also the first time i heard it was in a youtube video it is a guy who it he has changed the context of the song in my opinion. Do you know who Josh Weathers is? No. Okay. Musician he does a cover of I Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston
Starting point is 00:33:10 that is so full of emotioning good. It's so wonderful. See, here's where I would be a prick and say I will always love you is not her song. It's Daly Parton's song. Yeah, it is. But I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it. I'm being cool and related. today instead.
Starting point is 00:33:34 So that, you know, Daly Parton crushed that song. Obviously, Cushing, I don't really knows he's a Dolly Parton song. Well, there's other guy, Josh Weathers, also covered it. Man, you are just, not a great day to be a black person in Daniel's mind today. Daniel will not give black people credit for a single thing. Okay, so, so Josh Weathers, he has, I've heard this, I'd heard this song as like a cover and thought, this is really good. And then I didn't realize that the video is actually much longer.
Starting point is 00:34:05 There's another version of it in which he gives a preamble before he sings it. I guess he does it as a lot of his shows. But when he was a kid, he had a mom who was divorced and like they were moving around a lot. And so it was just like these two and they were a team. And she had a tape deck in her car, but they were so poor that they couldn't fix the car. Like the tape deck, there was a tape stuck in it and it was the tape of the bodyguard. So every day that they would drive anywhere. they're listening to the entire soundtrack of the bodyguard
Starting point is 00:34:34 over and over and over again. And his mom, like, didn't mind it because she was really into a Whitney Houston, huge fan of her. And so he also, like, a lot of his musicianship, he tributes to, like, I had this voice belting at me all the time in this car, the beautiful voice.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And so, like, I had no choice but to embrace it and, like, absorb it. And so he now plays the song, but he doesn't play it from the perspective of, like, somebody in a relationship, you know, like an ending of a relationship, a sexual relationship. He sings it to his mom as like the dynamic was not always great because she was a single mom and there was a lot of fighting stuff, but like the way that they would, the way that he still loves her, like that he sings it to her. And it's so good when you like change the, who the song is to is like completely changes
Starting point is 00:35:29 what the song is. I'm like, oh, I really, really love this song now. So yeah, Josh Weathers, I will always love you. It's wonderful. Hi, I'm Darren Marler. Host of the Weird Darkness podcast. I want to talk about the most important tool in my podcast belt. Spreaker is the all-in-one platform that makes it easy to record, host, and distribute your show everywhere from Apple Podcasts to Spotify. But the real game changer for me was Spreaker's monetization. Spreaker offers dynamic ad insertion. That means you can automatically insert ads into your episodes, no editing required. And with Spreaker's programmatic ads, they'll bring the ads to you, and you get paid for every download. This turned my podcasting hobby into a full-time career. Spreaker also
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Starting point is 00:36:47 Well, no, it's not about, I'm trying to, uh, it's, I just have thoughts in my head of a thing I just, just learned before we started recording. Okay. On the day that we're recording, it's Friday, October 3rd. Taylor Swift just dropped her new album, and there's a song on it.
Starting point is 00:37:10 That's all about her fiancé, Travis Kelsey's hog. What? Yeah. It's called Wood Woods or Woody. I can't remember which of those it is, but that's the ballpark. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:25 That's actually a Dully Parton song. Is it that's so great I'll take it Woods Wood or Woody Yeah That's the name of the song I was trying to think There's got to be
Starting point is 00:37:33 Some way that I can link The thoughts I have about the song That Taylor Swift recorded About her fiancee's dick With the conversation that we're having now And I'm just not I have a lot of the ingredients But
Starting point is 00:37:47 The recipe is all smudged We listen to a lot of Taylor Swift in the car because my daughter is big into Taylor Swift and she does something that I don't know if she stole from the video or how she would even have seen the video but she listens to shake it off
Starting point is 00:38:05 big fan of that song and she gets to that part where Taylor Swift kind of raps almost where she goes my ex man and his new girlfriend she's like oh my God I'm just going to shake and like that part
Starting point is 00:38:18 my daughter has an entire choreograph thing that she does to that song she's five but she has like this whole choreograph thing where she's like could be getting down to this sick beat and then she like as she's doing it she's like flipping her hair and doing this stuff and then at the end she does this thing where she's like I'm just going to shake and she poses but she does this thing with her eyes which I think she's never seen in a mirror actually
Starting point is 00:38:40 and she thinks it looks really good or she assumes that it looks really good but it really just looks like she's very tired because her eyelids get real low she goes I'm just going to shake and it's makes me laugh so hard I absolutely love it but we end up listening to a lot a lot. Yeah. Taylor, so it's completely
Starting point is 00:38:57 fuck my Spotify. Sure, but Taylor Swift seems like generally a pretty
Starting point is 00:39:03 safe thing for kids to listen to right? Yeah. She doesn't, she doesn't, not a lot
Starting point is 00:39:09 of swear words. No, no, but she, you know what? I'll say broad strokes, yes,
Starting point is 00:39:14 you can, it's not that bad. It is, it kind of sucks that every single one of her songs
Starting point is 00:39:19 is about a guy. They're all about relationships. And I get that's appealing. Sure. But when you're having your child listen to that, you're establishing this is what's important. And I don't totally love that.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah. She doesn't have just songs about friendship. She seems like she would have songs about friendship. None of the popular ones. None of the ones that show up on my fucking Spotify. I shake it off as I guess is close. She's also the one that's you need to calm down, which is about, it's about her enemies, basically. It's about people that she doesn't like.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And then so many other songs are about breaking up, getting together, falling. in love, liking somebody, being crazy in a relationship, somebody else being crazy in a relationship. Like, there's so many of them are just about relationships. And I'm like, is that every song? And I start, like, looking around being like, are we, did I just not realize it until now? But, and there are obviously a good portion, but it is sort of a bummer. It's sort of a bummer that she is only doing relationship songs. Well, life and times of a showgirl bucks that trend a little bit with having a song
Starting point is 00:40:17 about a person whose dick is so good you like their podcast. I don't, I, that's a novel experience. for the world, I think. Wow. What is that son? That's not a... That's the Travis Kelsey song. No, that's the new one.
Starting point is 00:40:32 That's Woodward or Woody. Yeah. Okay. That sucks pretty bad. I don't want to... No, fuck it. What bridges do I have to burn with Travis Kelsey? I think that guy's an idiot.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I think he's a football savant. He's very good at one thing and never learned a single other thing in his entire life. Yeah. I think he is so handsome. sometimes I can't even believe it like we watched the entire Travis was on the podcast that he does with his brother McFoli also an absolute stud elk yeah no one's
Starting point is 00:41:10 writing songs about them as far as we know but I watched that podcast and I've never listened to their podcast before but we watched it for for Taylor Swift News and it's it's truly just like arresting how handsome and charming I think Travis Kelsey is because you say he's dumb and he doesn't know anything
Starting point is 00:41:31 there is just something about him that's wildly likable it's got to be that fucking massive hug apparently oh he's got those beautiful eyes too just fall into yeah
Starting point is 00:41:43 yeah and he does seem like he's yeah nothing nothing shakes him he can shake it all off yeah I don't think maybe I don't know him well enough to comment on whether I think he's a big dummy or not he just always strikes me as just kind of an idiot and maybe that's unfair that could be completely unfair on my part I will say you know mazzle to the two of them and I and I hope they get married and they're happy forever I when happy Gilmore two came out this year and Travis Kelsey has a small role in it and it's not like
Starting point is 00:42:21 there are a lot of golfers who play themselves, a lot of people who play themselves. He is playing a character in, in two scenes with, like, clear point of view. And, you know, he's, he is snooty, shitty, uh, restaurant manager is his thing. And I'm watching him, you know, he's got his hairstyle like he's an actor and he's handsome like an actor. And I'm watching him and he's like, I think when he's done with football, And it comes pretty clear, pretty early that acting is not his thing. I think it's going to get pretty dark. I think we're going to get everyone's on top of the world right now with the prom king and queen getting together.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But I think if his plan post football was to pivot to acting superstar, I don't think that's in the cards. and I'm genuinely worried about what happens next. Okay, Gabe has put it in the chat, and I'm assuming that this must be lyrics from the song. He stuck his longwood into my redwood forest, and I let his sap ferment my roots. Does that sound familiar to you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:35 That sucks pretty bad, man. Is she getting dumber? Oh, Dave says, sorry, that was parody. Oh, okay. All right. Goodness. I was trying to think, like, would any, would some, would a, would a woman have said my redwood forest? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Well, also the saffermint my roots. Yeah. Fermenting is like, is something you obviously want to link entirely to sexuality at every turn you can. His love was the key to open my thighs. Oh, that's way more specific. That's the actual lyric from the song. and also sucks kind of worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Because love was the key to open my thighs? That's rough, man. There's an article that's worth reading that's in Vulture right now by Rachel Handler called I didn't need to know all of that about Travis Kelsey. And it's a really good read. And I really appreciate that I got to learn all about the song without listening to it or thinking about it too hard.
Starting point is 00:44:48 yeah wow yeah um yeah so we we had a moment in the car actually a couple moments in the car where we listen to music and i just like have a i put Spotify DJ on or whatever and um go to town came on which is a doja cat song and a song that i very much like bop into and it took me a while to realize that that song was just about eating pussy and i was like oh okay well maybe i think we maybe have like another year where we're still allowed to listen to this in the car where we'll my children, and then I'm going to have to stop. And then another one that was on was the Ariana Grande song, Bicycle, I think, which is a song about getting railed so hard that you can't move the next day.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Oh. And I didn't know that. I didn't know any of that until it was explained to me. I was like, oh shit, man, these pop stars are really, they don't mind just like throwing it out there, being like, no, you know what? I know that you recognize for me from Disney, but you should know. that I'm a sexual creature in nature. This is why I canceled that concert that time.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I couldn't fucking walk. So anyway, I'm waiting for the covers of those. I'm waiting for the toned-down coffee house version of those. I'm really excited. Excited for the kids' bop version of this Travis Kelsey Dick's song. Yeah, it's going to be really nice when that comes out. Oh, too bad glee is not anymore. There would be a fun cover.
Starting point is 00:46:20 It's too bad glee is not anymore. We're always saying that on this show. So I have some, there's some honorable mentions I just want to throw out really quickly. Okay. One of them is Journey Through the Past, which is a James Mercer does this cover. It's originally a, Honest Harvest Moon, Neil Young, Neil Young. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:46:41 It's got to be an improvement. Yeah, it's originally Neil Young song. Journey Through the Past is gorgeous. It's like this gorgeous. piano version of it it's absolutely it's wonderful um and then this magic moment by lou reed which is based on an old do-up song and it's really really really good now did you ever watch the show sex education yeah first season okay so good so that first season i think in the second as well there's a ton of ezra firman songs like the entire soundtrack is this guy esra firman who's wonderful
Starting point is 00:47:09 um but he also has i didn't realize an entire album that is just covers that he does and i would say they're just like banger after banger. He's doing like set these great new compositions of songs that are unbelievable and like change the entire old song. So one of them is an LCD sound system song called I Can Change. And it's the his version of it is fucking rad and it should be listened to. I am trying to self-filter the other songs that I would add because I'm realizing the race of the original artist and the race of the artist whose version I'm saying is better song on this Rihanna cover but I can say tenacious D does a cover of I think I
Starting point is 00:48:02 love you that might be it feels like it's got to be in common in in conjunction with like some animated Jack Black movie that he did and it's so good. And when you get someone like Jack Black singing something, it immediately changes the whole tenor and vibe of a song. And that's a song that I never think about or listen to. And it fucking rips. It's cool. And it's a little bit scary. Really? Yeah. What's it called? I think I love you. All right. I'll check that out. This is a, this is a, this is a, this has been such a good opportunity for us on the podcast to play these songs as we talked about them. Yeah. No. It's your job at this point. You're going to have to keep them all in the dome and figure out what
Starting point is 00:48:48 we're, just write them down on a sticky note or something. Go find them. We'll drop them in the show notes, unless that's not a thing that we have on this show. I don't know. We have show notes. I don't even know where those would live. Yeah. I also, anytime another show that I'm listening to is like, we're going to drop this in the show notes. I don't know where that is for other shows. I don't either. Yeah. I trust them. Yeah. You're a crazy thing to lie about. I guess they must have. websites? I remember when we used to do websites?
Starting point is 00:49:21 Yeah, I remember websites. Do you, I still like, so I do this, this substack, my reading newsletter that I'm still doing on substack because I haven't read the thing that explains why substack is bad. So as long as I keep myself in the dark, I never have to feel bad about what I'm doing. And eventually, information will be forced upon me and I will delete it. And I will delete substack and pivot to something else that is, right, as of now, less problematic. But anyway, I was writing my reading letter and I was promoting a book by Joe Firestone called Murder on Sex Island. And I wanted to link to bookshop.org to promote the book.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And I also wanted to link off to Joe herself in case people don't know who that is. She's a writer comedian and she's very, very talented. And she has a website. and it's got like here's where you can buy my books here are some clips of mine you could find online here is like a bunch of my works and for business inquiries you can have this contact information
Starting point is 00:50:23 sorry you don't have a website right no fuck no I don't either I don't even think this podcast has a website that I don't think so either wait is blue sky mine I don't actually know I think my I believe I'm the only one there I think my a substack that is that might be run by Nazis I think might be the closest thing I have to a website
Starting point is 00:50:48 no I don't have a website that's a cool idea though I'd love to have a website oh all these these writers and comedians and performers and stuff who are just like yeah if you want to hire me here's all of my stuff here's like documentation of the work that I've been doing for my career and it's like hey I'd like to get hired one day I wonder if I should have one of these web sites. I wonder if any of my stuff is left from the world. When I did
Starting point is 00:51:18 Behind the Bastards, which is a very, a show that's so much more popular than ours. And like even their, they're, they actually talk about real information on it. Yeah. And they release their episodes on YouTube and it's just like 20s and 30,000 views just on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:51:34 It's completely separate from however else people experience their podcast. And it's like, this would be, I should, I should like promote our podcast or the Patreon for the podcast or the book that I one of the books that I wrote that I still want people to buy even though I keep forgetting about it and the best I got was like the first the most recent post in my Instagram was like
Starting point is 00:52:02 list the dead presidents and the Patreon for quick question it's not like it's not a very actionable link to get anyone to do anything That's true You're going to have to go find it If you really love what you heard on this podcast And you want to know more about me I do like pictures of my wife on Instagram
Starting point is 00:52:24 And I have a podcast that I do sometimes And Blue Sky I'm still trying to figure out What I want my Blue Sky presence to be I have my awesome club on Substack If you want my attention You've got to be a really interesting bug in my garage Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I will pay attention to you. Then I'll take a lot of pictures. If you follow me on Blue Sky and your avatar looks professional, then I might click through to see who you are because you might be famous. Right. But otherwise, I'm ostensibly unreachable. Yeah. And you can't find anything about me.
Starting point is 00:53:03 That's a good way to leave it, I think. A mishandled career. Thank you, everybody, for listening. Daniel, you have seven Emmys. You're fucking fine. Yeah, but someone should write that down somewhere on the same website that has my blue sky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Everybody, thank you for listening. This has been a quick question with Sorin, Daniel. Obviously, if you have a song that we missed, a cover that we missed, put it in the show notes, because I think you have access to that. Drop it in the show notes, please. I think you have better access than we do.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And we'll take a look at it. at those someday. And that's about it. Actually, I am pretty reachable on Blue Sky. If you really do have something you want to say to Daniel, I generally do pass that information along. He does. So, you know, I'm available.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I'm just hanging out. Waiting to talk, waiting to chat, waiting to make new friends. I think, by the way, I might leave, I might leave Blue Sky too. It's not toxic in the same way that Twitter was toxic, but I'd been really doggedly trying to make blue sky just like dumb joke the same way that you do just like here's some dumb jokes it's barely any self-promotion just like here's some stuff and i was writing a joke that is continuation on a series of of observations i've had about peeing and how i pee too much and i want to pee less and uh the the joke was something about how i've entered the cycle
Starting point is 00:54:31 of drinking less water so i pee with less frequency but then i get headaches and we're all having lots of fun with it and then someone was like why would be why would peeing frequently be a bad thing it's better than being dehydrated i'm like this fucking sucks i can't go anywhere yeah yeah i was i recently just like had a really good political joke and did it i was like i got to put this up and it did so well that i was like oh fuck that's the only shit that that's good is kill on this website i don't know i mean i'm not on this website to kill i didn't think but then all of and it happens. And I'm like, oh, no, I think I'd like the attention. And this is the way to get the attention. Am I now going to do this all over again?
Starting point is 00:55:16 Don't you do it. Trying to keep it fun. Trying to keep it fun. All right. Well, thank you for listening. Me Rex, Gabe Harder, Daniel O'Brien, bacon, all the good folks who make this podcast. We'll talk to you again next week. Bye. Bye. Where are you all right? I want to hear your thoughts I want to know what's on your mind. I've got a quick, quick question for you all right.
Starting point is 00:55:45 The answer's not important. I'm just glad that we could talk tonight. So what's your favorite? Who did you get? When did I be? Remember? What's it out? Where did all?
Starting point is 00:55:56 Oh, forget it. I saw a movie Daniel O'Brien. Two best friends and comedy writers. If there's an answer, they're gonna find it. I think you'll have a great time here. I think you'll have a great time here.

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