Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - QQ ep 24 - Essentially, Under the Table and Podcasting

Episode Date: November 20, 2019

In this episode the guys talk DMB, compare verbal and conversational crutches, and Soren learns about Dan's favorite early 2000's wrestlers!  Also big thanks to Skillshare.  Get 2 months of unlimit...ed access at Skillshare.com/QQ.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So, hello again and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel. We have been told that we need to say something up top, informing listeners that this is a new episode, so... Okay? Oh, thanks to Skillshare for supporting Quick Question. Join the millions of students already learning on Skillshare today with a special offer just for my listeners. That's right. Just mine, not Soren. So if you're listening to this podcast for Soren, this code will not work for you. But if you use, if you're one of my listeners, you get two months of Skillshare for free at
Starting point is 00:00:35 Skillshare.com slash QQ. Again, that's Skillshare.com slash QQ. And again, if you only listen to this podcast by muting my voice and listening to Soren and you try to use the promo code Skillshare.com slash QQ, your computer will melt from the inside. All you Soreside Squad fans out there can go pound sand. Sure. Quick question is the advice podcast featuring two best friends and commentators. commentators and if you're wondering why i used to say it was starring two best friends and have now downgraded it to featuring it's because in my opinion the real star of the show gotta be the fans anyway i'm daniel and with me as always is soren buoy soren what's up hey hey hey uh that's i'm just trying some new things okay how do you feel about it how do you think it went
Starting point is 00:01:24 in the middle of it i already didn't like it but i committed and went through the whole thing and then paused to see if it worked for you and it clearly did so you're saying hey hey hey to honor bill cosby yeah that's what immediately like yeah and by the second hey i was like how do i know this oh no that's right That's right. Interesting choice. As always, we are Quick Question. And as even more always, you, our listeners, prefer to be called by your nickname,
Starting point is 00:01:51 which is, Hit It Bacon, what is it? Queltic Pride starring Damon Wayans Jr. Damon Wayans, not Jr. We might have to start this whole episode from the beginning. Is that a correct impulse? I really like it.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I really like it. I like that. Maybe it's because I just got to see Bacon Freeze. It was such a treat for me. Celtic Pride? Celtic Pride. Is that a movie? Celtic Pride.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah, Celtic Pride. Damon Wayans movie? It's Damon Wayans. Celtic Pride. Okay. Yeah, Celtic Pride. Damon Wayans is a basketball player for the Celtics. And then Daniel Stern. And who's the other fella? Is it Dan Aykroyd? I think it is Dan Aykroyd. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Daniel Stern's the one from Home Alone. Yeah. Two people kidnapped Damon Wayans to stop him from playing in this basketball game because they want the Celtics to win. And he is a Laker, I believe. Yeah, Laker and Nick, I think. I think I've not seen the movie in 30 years. Wait, so you think a movie called Celtic Pride is about a basketball game between the Lakers and the Knicks? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I think he's on the Lakers or the Knicks and he's playing the Celtics. Okay, yeah. But honestly, Dan, I have not seen the movie. No, but you're right to assume it's that famous franchise feud of the Celtics and the Knicks. I love it. I love it. The first thing that came into Bacon's mind was not anything that begins with a Q or a C or that rhymes with questions. Hey, Celtic begins with a C.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Well, a soft C. And it was a movie from 25 years ago that no one knows. No, this was a great move by me. This is three good minutes of content. Oh, it was a great move by me. This is three good minutes of content. Oh, it was really good. Just to be in your brain. I would love to be there. We should probably get into this show.
Starting point is 00:03:52 It's an advice podcast where we ask each other questions and get answers. Soren, do you want to go first or should I go first? Yeah, I got a question for you. Okay, sounds good. So when I was a kid, right around like nine or 10, I got obsessed with a celebrity and it was a, it was like a platonic obsession. It was a male celebrity that I just sort of idolized and just picked up and decided I was going to idolize because I don't know, maybe I felt like that
Starting point is 00:04:17 was something you were supposed to do. And I've since talked to other people. I have a friend, Ben, who's now a very successful producer who said that, oh yeah, I went through that same thing. I really idolized Arnold Schwarzenegger and I had posters of him all over my room. And this is like before T2 even. So he just picked this bodybuilder and was like, this is the guy. This is what I want to be. And the path to producer runs through being a bodybuilder.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It's true. The path to producer runs through being a bodybuilder. That's true. And I'd picked, at that age, I picked Kirby Puckett, who played for the Minnesota Twins. Was a kind way of putting it is he was portly and great hitter, but just kind of like a heavyset baseball player. He was very good, but I was obsessed and had Kirby Puckett posters all over my room. I had a bat signed by Kirby Puckett. I had framed photos of him and I collected every Kirby Puckett card.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I could, I could get my hands on. He's a slugger. Hey, he is. That's his main thing. Yeah. He's a big hitter.
Starting point is 00:05:19 He's an outfielder who occasionally, a lot of times it looked like he was on roller skates, but occasionally he made some really great plays defensively but mostly he was just known for his hitting yeah and i was obsessed with kirby pocket and in a way that i don't know like i look back and i wonder if my parents thought maybe it was unhealthy because there was nothing else in my room but minnesota twin stuff and kirby pocket stuff and i didn't watch a single twins game uh until they were i guess in the world series in 1987 i watched but they before that I didn't watch a single twins game, uh, until they were, I guess in the world series in 1987, I watched, but they, before that I didn't watch a single twins game. I didn't know
Starting point is 00:05:50 more than two other players on the twins. I didn't care much about baseball at a professional level. I just liked this guy. Yeah. Uh, and I think a lot of kids have this. And I was wondering if you had somebody that you idolized when you were young uh i did i think older than you so uh less forgivable but just real quick you didn't you weren't like a rockies fan growing up in colorado so i'm old enough that they were an expansion team in 1991 meaning that i was a baseball or a baseball fan i was a curry pocket fan before they were even an expansion team. I see. Okay. Yeah. I guess like a male celebrity, there's two and they're both embarrassing. One is Dave Matthews. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And one is Jeff Hardy from wrestling. Which would you like to hear about? Hardy from wrestling. Which would you like to hear about? I'm thinking. I'm a little thrown because I figured it would be Victor Wooten from Bela Fleck and the Fleck Totems. I think I want to hear the former. So, Dave Matthews really resonated with me and I distanced myself as I've gotten older because I feel like there's weird associations with Dave Matthews band culture. Like it's been appropriated by this aggressive frat boy culture.
Starting point is 00:07:15 There was like, oh, I'm not interested in being associated with that. But I genuinely loved his music for so much of my life. And even being like 12 years old and looking at him, I knew in my bones, I was like, I'm probably also going to be balding in a couple of years. And I like that this guy seems to be like balding and doughy and he's got a weird voice and he's kind of a spaz, but he is somehow still sexy. That is interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:07:46 That is a path that I hoped I would go down one day. And I was like, I'm never going to be conventionally hot. I'm never going to be cool. But Dave Matthews somehow makes all of his flaws work. And I hope to do similarly when I reach his age. How did you feel about Phil Collins? Ah, sucked ass. It's like basically the same trajectory.
Starting point is 00:08:15 No, the bass in Phil Collins sucks. Okay. So I was a big fan of Dave Matthews back in the day. And in fact, learned a song by Dave Matthews as one of the first guitar songs I ever learned to impress a girl. Which song? I learned Satellite.
Starting point is 00:08:33 That intro to Satellite. You fucking basic ass dork. Yes, very much so. On every single level. I mean, just as milquetoast as they come and uh like i even ushered her over to the music room one day school and i was like i i learned to play this song for you and she was like you're not playing it quite right yeah and to be fair i wasn't it's hard and but still like pretty low blow no and i No, and I also, like, I can't.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I called you a basic-ass dork just now, and I apologize for that because I can't really come down too hard on you for that because my version of that is bringing a high school girl into my attic and being like, do you want to hear the bass line to Ants Marching? And here it is. Fowl. Fowl, fowl, fowl it is. That's not the bass line. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I mean, closer. It's the thing you don't even recognize in the song. Right. There's like, well, everything, all the bow, bow, bows are going on. There's some other little like fingering that's happening. Right. It was like, hey, Christina, come here. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,
Starting point is 00:09:44 do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, hey, Christina, come here. Do you know what that is, Christina? Do you want to French me now because I did that? Anyway, there's the Sublime poster on my ceiling. That's great, man. So what was your favorite Dave Matthews song? Man, that's such a great question. I still think Ants Marching fucking slaps. Hold on. Let me let me and I'm basically answer this. Okay, I let me see if I can guess what your favorite song was. Oh, do it. Let's see. Let me go through my vast knowledge of Dave Matthews. Oh, Warehouse. It's fucking Warehouse. No. Oh, you don't even know that one no i think that's on ants marching it's not ants nothing can be on ants marching if anything it would be under the table and dreaming
Starting point is 00:10:31 i don't fuck all right it might actually be something off if i'm being honest it might be something off some some devil i don't even know what that is that's his solo album that he he like briefly stepped away from dave matthews band and just did Dave Matthews stuff. I really like Grave Digger a whole lot. You really did love him. And oh you know what? Stay or Leave. Stay or Leave is the one. Okay. Yeah alright.
Starting point is 00:10:56 That makes sense. Does it? Yeah. Alright. That's like a kind of like a fun oh no I'm thinking of Wasting Time. Yeah. No. Where he's like talking about licking sweat off a chick's chin. He's such a pervert. Yeah. So many songs about like, I want to drink the sweat from like the opposite of your knee.
Starting point is 00:11:16 That weird like cup that forms when you curl your knee back. Yeah, I guess I understood that too. Because when you're young, you don't know what sexuality is yet. Everyone does it behind closed doors. There's like a language to it and everything that you're not privy to. And when somebody opens the door to that, even regardless of what they're saying, you're writing that shit down because you're being like, this is all I've got to go on. And he was giving you that, like the hike up your skirt a little more.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And you're just like, okay, I guess this is the language of romance. I'm going to try this. Right. And coming up, when I was coming up, there was like, we had that, I'm a little bit younger than you, but the huge rise of boy bands of like the Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, 98 Degrees, O-Town, World. And I was like, oh, I don't think I'm any of those fellas. And there's also like Cisco doing his thing and Eminem doing his thing. I'm like, nope, strikes two and three.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And then I see, oh, people seem to be attracted to Dave Matthews and Ben Folds. So, oh, that's my lane. That's where I'm going to go. Those are the guys that I'm going to idolize because like they seem to be romantic while also being white and soft, which is my whole vibe. Yeah. Were you a big Nick Hornby fan when you were young? Absolutely. Okay. That tracks for me. Okay. Absolutely. Okay. Great. So, you know, he's famous is Dave Matthewsthews live at red rocks yeah i had friends who were there dan really yeah i mean i saw dave matthews and the band at the uh at uh central park the concert in central park so you know they played they encored with watchtower so it's like
Starting point is 00:13:01 you know was that the tour where they famously parked on a bridge and just dumped a bunch of shit into the river no this was before that they were dumping shit in different ways but this was before the literal shit dump okay all right you got any questions for me and jeff hardy was the other one if you want that expanded at all oh wait oh fuck i totally forgot i so i don't give a shit about wrestling but i think i'd like to hear this oh uh so the hardy boys uh my brother david and i got into to wrestling later than you should like we were in high school so we should have been over wrestling but we we were we got super into it i think because like 1998 1999 is like the raw era of the wwf that was very exciting. And it was like a war between WCW and WWF.
Starting point is 00:13:51 There's a lot of reasons to get into wrestling at the late 90s. It was peak wrestling. And we really, really got into the Hardy Boys because they were these high-flying brothers who never spoke and were just like the most physically impressive lean panthers of wrestling and uh we just we just glommed on to it and and jeff hardy was this guy like i i we've talked about this before how i have no style no discernible like look or vibe, but I have been always envious of people who had ostentatious style. And Jeff Hardy was this guy who wore like fishnet shirts and had nail polish and like brightly colored long hair and never said a word and was, was very good at
Starting point is 00:14:41 his job of flipping in the ring. And I was like, that's so cool. I want to, I want to one day be, be a Hardy boy with my brother. Pictures of him right now. This is, this just looks like big boy and Andre 3000 as wrestlers.
Starting point is 00:14:56 The Hardy boys. One of them is. Yeah. Well, one of them is like, he's, he's clearly the clear, the clean cut one.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And then one of them just, just wearing a wetsuit. Sometimes, sometimes he's got a mask on his hair is two different colors. He's clearly the clean cut one. And then one of them is just wearing a wetsuit sometimes. Sometimes he's got a mask on. His hair is two different colors. Got some sheepskin pants on. They looked different in the old days, I would say. Okay. But I was very jealous of his confidence to dress very ostentatiously
Starting point is 00:15:27 and also be like clearly a physically impressive force. That makes sense. That tracks. If you have like the skills, the chops to back it up when you are willing to go out there and be seen. Yeah. I get where that, I know how to scratch that itch.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Like I remember as a kid being like, you want to, you want that shortcut to being an interesting person. You want to like dress flashy, but then you need something to back it up with. And when you see somebody who's doing it that way, you're just like, fuck,
Starting point is 00:16:00 how do I, how do I get those qualities? Oh, I have to work at them. Oh, all right. All right. Let me think about this.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And I think my brother and I were somewhere between backyard wrestling and serious pursuit of being a wrestler. Like we both did engage in backyard wrestling shit. We would just like wrestle with our buddies and film it. buddies and film it. And had a few semi-serious conversations, which was like, what if we just actually really thought about this and tried to be professional wrestlers? That was a thing that I thought about for a couple of years of my life. That's amazing. I think that that trajectory is not that uncommon. I think that kids who end up being writers for tv or end up becoming comedians either wanted to be wrestlers when they were young or wanted to be magicians when they were young yeah and i wanted to be both they're kind of the same thing yeah it's very presentational it's about like just
Starting point is 00:16:55 trying to make the world magic or like you don't create a world that doesn't totally make sense for everybody around you yeah i'm i'm all for this this is a tangent but i would uh just had my niece's birthday party and i was there with my niece and my nephew and uh it's shortly after halloween so i had a bunch of extra kit kats and i decided to bring them with me and hide them throughout my my person like my coat and my pockets and stuff. And, uh, would occasionally sneak them into my nephew's hood, like the hood. And he was wearing a hoodie. So I would sneak them to the back of the hood or would sneak them into his pocket or sneak them somewhere else. Just so time would pass. And I'd be like, Hey, Hey, Colin, check your, check your hood, buddy.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And he'd be like, Oh my God, there's a Kit Kat there. I did that for the entire night. And it was a whole night where he thought magic was real. And I want, like, that's what I want my function to be as an uncle. It's just like, yeah, let the kids think that magic is real for as long as I possibly can. And let them wake up tomorrow questioning, where do those KitKat bars come from? If I can keep sneaking them in different places, then I've done my job. That's the best part of being a parent is that you get to leave the world as big as possible
Starting point is 00:18:16 in their minds for a while. And so I will do magic for my son, magic that I learned when I was young. I thought I was going to be a magician. And I'll do coin tricks for him. I'll do closeup magic or I'll do card tricks. And he goes nuts. Like it's so cool to him. And he's at the exact age where he can actually realize what's going on. And it's so much fun. And he sucks at like, he's so easy to misdirect him. And I would do the same thing while he's eating dinner like i'll put a quarter into his into his shirt pocket and and then later he'll find it and be like how and then as he's looking at it like i'll slip another one into it take that one from him let it disappear and then tell him to check his pocket again and he'll do it and it's just it's amazing it's the look on their faces is funny. Here's the thing I'm very curious about for when your daughter gets older.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Because what I'm doing with Colin, with the nephew, I'm sneaking chocolates into all of his pockets and his hood. And he believes it every time. And then I tried to do it with Charlotte, who is younger than him. And I was like, oh, Charlotte, where did that Kit Kat come from? She's like, I think you reached into that bag and put it in your pocket and then snuck it into my pocket. Shit. You got me.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Yeah. I have no idea. I believe that girls mature a lot faster than boys. Yes. Well, Dan, I'd like to hear a question from you, but let's do it after the break. Okay. Quick question is brought to you by Skillshare. Skillshare is an online learning community with thousands of amazing classes covering
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Starting point is 00:20:33 and most adhere to. And I learned that I'm into warm minimalism. Wow. What does that mean? It means I'm into a lot of straight lines, a lot of functional furniture and a very clean space. But I also have room in my repertoire and my arsenal for like some soft pillows and some fabrics that are a little more inviting, like a warm, thick quilt. Cool. Lines and pillows. Have you taken any of these, Dan? I did.
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Starting point is 00:22:21 What's a small change you've made in your adult life that has actually stuck? This is a, it's like a very small thing. I can give my answers before if that's helpful to you. Yeah, go ahead. This was maybe a year and a half ago because my mom and I, we talk on the phone once a week just to chat. And she mentioned a rule of hers, which is never leave for work in the morning with dirty dishes in the sink. And like, even if it's,
Starting point is 00:22:52 it's something simple, like a coffee cup, just don't do it. And I started doing that and it stuck. There are so few things that actually stick, like so few patterns that make their way into my rotation. And this one does. It's a good habit that now I swear by. It's the same as like a couple of years ago, I just decided the first thing I do when I'm going to wake up, no matter what's going on, I'm going to make my bed. And there are no excuses for not doing that. And then I do it, Making my bed and getting dirty dishes and cups out of my sink are things that are part of my daily routine and I'm so happy that they're there. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I think as an adult, it's hard to get new things to stick. Especially when you live alone. Yes. It's so easy to fall back into those patterns. You're not accountable to anybody but you. Correct. I'm proud of you, Dan. Yes. It's so easy to fall back into those patterns. You're not accountable to anybody but you. Correct. I'm proud of you, Dan. Thanks, buddy.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah, it sounds like a small feat, but I don't think it is. It's like I've tried to change things in my life at this age, and it's just like, well, fuck it. Right. This isn't taking. Right, because for like over a decade, I could just let plates pile up in the sink before cleaning them, and it wasn't a problem because it's just me.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And you cleaned plates when you ran out of plates and that was it. But I've learned from doing it that it's way better to come home to not a bunch of dirty plates in the sink. It's really nice. And like coming home to like when it's time to go to bed, especially because like I spend no time in my bedroom during the day. Like it's a sacred space. So going in there to just walking into a clean made bed is the best way to end your night. It is. Let's talk about that.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I'm not good at it. It's so selfish of me. I'm the last one to get out of bed in the morning, and I should be the one making the bed, and she's the first one to go to bed at night, so I should be making it for her, for my wife, and I just don't. And I know what it feels like to come and get into crisp covers,
Starting point is 00:25:07 crisply tucked in covers and how nice it is to go and inviting it is to walk into a bedroom that has like a warm glowing lamp and a nice made bed and just slip in there. And I just, I leave it in ruins for her. It's wrinkly and the bottom, even the pad underneath has somehow folded over. So she makes the bed every day or do you just not have a made bed sometimes?
Starting point is 00:25:32 We just don't have a made bed. Yeah. You know what? I'm going to try. Okay. Starting today, I'm going to really make a concerted effort. We'll check in next time. I'm going to make a concerted effort to make the bed every single day and see if you can teach this old dog some new tricks it's not even a trick it's just like a simple mundane thing that i should be doing it's very mundane but like the but it took me a very long time to get into it and it's the the two parts that i like about it is one, having a purpose the second you wake up. And like, I need that more than you do because you have a child, which probably requires some attention in the morning. But I like to have, okay, I'm awake. What is my purpose right now?
Starting point is 00:26:20 Okay, make the bed, make the bed nice. nice good and that makes sure that the first thing you did when you woke up mattered and i also like it for the last thing you see before you go to sleep when i just like walk into my bedroom was like oh good this is a nice peaceful prepared place for me to go to sleep it does seem simple but i think i see how it would change your entire mindset going to bed at night you feel like such you feel like less of a piece of shit to walk into a prepared room yeah absolutely like like the the times that I've slipped and I've walked in and like the room has been messy and it's like oh fuck come on man come on past Daniel I had a tough day and now I gotta I gotta figure out the sheets. Come on, buddy.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Yeah. Whose team are you on? I did do one in my adult life that I'm proud of. I guess it was my early 20s. I just gave up beef. I stopped eating it. And it happened when I was, there was this environmental club and I was going to join it because there was a girl in the environmental club that i liked what was her name her name was colleen oh there's a story about my wife uh i like this girl and this woman i like this woman and And I joined this environmental club right around Arbor Day. And they were thinking about what to do for Arbor Day.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And I was like, I'm going to... I'm sorry, pre or post 9-11? Post 9-11. Okay. Interesting. Okay. So picture this. The towers are down, right?
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah. Now go all the way to California and that's where we are. And so, uh, everyone else is reeling, but life goes on. And I decided, okay,
Starting point is 00:28:14 for Arbor day, I'm really going to impress her. I know these facts about, uh, deforestation, central South America. I know that the majority of it, the slash and burn deforestation that happens in these countries is to produce
Starting point is 00:28:23 beef. And a lot of that beef gets sent up to the United States for fast food. And I was like, I wonder if I could figure out if everyone didn't eat beef for a day, how many trees hypothetically you would save from that. And I said- Yeah, I want to just say, like, you're not just impressing her. Our audience is fucking sopping right now. They're slipping out of their chairs. Sliding out of their goddamn chairs.
Starting point is 00:28:49 right now they're slipping out of their goddamn chairs uh and so i uh i was researching it and came up with like realized some really horrifying things about how much how much grain and water it takes to raise a single cow how many resources it takes and how they're one of the biggest animals that we eat and just how much they consume in terms of food and just space on the earth. And then I learned that if everyone cut their beef intake to one half, then there'd be no more need for this. Everyone in America cut their beef intake to one half. There'd be no need for this deforestation in Central South America. I don't remember where that fact exists or if it's true, but it- It's a Snapple cap.
Starting point is 00:29:27 That's where I did all my research. It took forever to find ones that weren't about butterflies or hummingbirds. And when I read that, I was like, what? I'll just stop eating beef all together. How hard could that be? And I just did. And I'd eaten a lot. I would eat it all the time before that. I was way into fast food. I was the only type of cooking I knew how to do was grilling. Yeah. And I just gave it up. It's difficult to difficult.
Starting point is 00:29:54 It's difficult to be into fast food and not favor beef. Absolutely. It's all built around beef. That's the star of fast food. Yeah. And so, yeah, it was, I don't even remember it being that complicated at first. I think I just was like, I'm going to do this and just did it. And looking back on it, I'm like, wow, Soren, well done.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Did you tell your parents, like when you went back to Colorado, did you tell parents where you're like, hey, I'm here for Christmas break. Please don't make beef based dishes. Yeah. Anytime. How do they feel? Well, my mom had already started doing something similar to that. She was, she was trying to be healthier and I think she started trying being, she would dabble in vegetarianism occasionally. So they were pretty accepting of the idea. And then when it would show up on plates, occasionally we'd just go to dinner or we'd go to some friend's house and they'd be serving something with meat. And I just push it aside and eat the rest of it. And occasionally if that was the star of the meal, then I would be polite and I would have a little bit, but ultimately I don't eat beef and I haven't
Starting point is 00:30:58 since then. That's a pretty good answer. I find that I get sick a lot less. Really? Yeah. You think it's beef related? No, I have no idea. That's what pretty good answer. I find that I get sick a lot less. Really? Yeah. You think it's beef related? No, I have no idea. That's what I tell myself. Yeah, I find that I get colds a lot less than I used to. Did you eat, were you like a big vegetable kid growing up? No, I hated vegetables. Me neither.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And I'm still not as an adult. Yeah, I've told you how I eat. I'm starting to get worried about it. I don't think it's something to be worried about. I think that I don't think it's just, yeah. I mean, you're an adult and you know that you're supposed to consume them. You're also at an age where you don't have to like it. You just do it and you get it out of the way.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And that's fine. You can go on functioning that way forever. I've told you that when Colleen's not around at home, I don't make a salad for dinner. I've got no interest in like trying to dress up vegetation and then consume it. So I just take, first of all, I shut my blinds so that no one can see what I'm doing. And then I take whatever- You blindfold your son as well. I blindfold Ronan and I say, don't look at me.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And then I open up whatever plastic container of rabbit food we've got. And I take a big handful, like enough that you would fill a salad bowl with. And I pack it down like a snowball in my hands as small as I can. And then I stuff the whole thing in my mouth. And you'd be shocked at how much, how like how it's like a snake unhinging its jaws, how much I can fit in my mouth. It's like a baby deer that i'm consuming and i i put all that in my mouth and chew it till it's gone and then i'm allowed to have my meal after that a snake consuming a baby deer goodness gracious
Starting point is 00:32:38 that's also very very similar to uh the simpsonsons episode where Homer condensed a family amount of spaghetti into a bar, ate it, and then called the hospital. That's right. Soren, I know you notoriously love fast food. Yes. So what are you doing at these places? Oh, man. I could go on and on. The menu items that I found at every fast, restaurant have kept me in the business. I keep going, you name a single one. And like, I can tell you exactly what I get there.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Del Taco. before that i would get a big fat chicken taco i would get a bean and cheese quesadilla and bean and cheese burrito with red sauce which is like their best thing on their menu and uh occasionally i get a quesadilla as well uh at mexican at taco bell you can get a mexican pizza without beef it's banging it's so good wendy's oh what do you get at wendy's spicy chicken french fries dr pepper see at del taco they don't have Dr. Pepper. You got to go with Mr. Pibb there. And Pibb Extra is a little sweeter, but sometimes it's a nice little treat. I thought you liked Pibb's more than Dr. Pepper.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I think I've matured into a Dr. Pepper fan. Oh. Yeah. I know for a fact that you're going to get fast food tonight. You're right. And you're already thinking about it. So what's on the docket? Well, on my way home, I had to go buy a Jack in the Box, but I also go buy a Popeye's.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And I'm curious if they've got those sandwiches yet. Most likely I'll end up at Jack in the Box though. Oh, and like, so there's some places that beef is the only thing, like a Five Guys or a In-N-Out. And at those, I get a grilled cheese. And at In-N-Out, the grilled cheese is fire. It's, you get a grilled cheese animal style. So it's got grilled onions and cheese and lettuce and the sauce on it. And it's like you're eating a burger. It's great. All right. Hey, Dan,
Starting point is 00:34:30 quick question. Go ahead. Nobody has to spend more time with you than you. And when you have conversations with people, do you find that you are reliant on a conversation crutch? That can be like a single word that just gives you time to stall and think about what to say next. Or it can be something that you find yourself saying all the time and you kind of hate yourself for doing it, but you can't help yourself. I can go first. Yeah, please go first because I think I have a kind of twist on that answer. Okay. But go on.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I have two. Okay. But go on. I have two. When I try and talk about anything that's theoretical or hard to, I need time to think as I'm talking. I say essentially over and over and over again. I can't help myself. And it gets to the point where that's all I can concentrate on.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And then I'm not thinking about the thing I need to be thinking very hard about. And so essentially just starts coming out more and more and more. Oh, the word essentially, it's not like a topic that has a crutch. It's the word. The word essentially, I need so badly. It's a long word. It gives me a lot of time to think. And the way that I use it, it's the same way as people use like.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah. Because it's approximately is how I'm using it. But it's a longer version of like. It sounds a little bit better than like, but I realized I was just'm using it. But it's a longer version of like, it sounds a little bit better than like, but I realized I was just substituting it because I worked very hard not to use like anymore and then realized I was just using essentially instead. And it drives me crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I think I've used basically that same way. Yeah, basically is a killer. But I also, I think I misunderstood your question. I thought it was going to be something like you're at a party and you're meeting strangers. And what is the conversation topic? Yeah, dude, this is, yes. That you lean back on. Both of these.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Because I have one for that as well. Yeah. I don't have a specific topic, but I do. Something that I think I learned from you is just asking a series of questions until you find something. Which is how I am at parties. Like, like I, I won't connect immediately to a person and being present in the moment, but I meet someone who's like, Oh, this, this is, this is Darren. Like Darren. Okay. Where are you from? Pittsburgh. Okay. I don't know anything about Pittsburgh. where are you from pittsburgh okay i don't know anything about pittsburgh what do you do coding okay i don't know anything about coding where are you going for christmas maui okay good i know maui let's talk about maui like like like you ask a certain amount
Starting point is 00:36:57 of questions until you find something like i've i've lived a long enough life that I have conversation points for different answers for very basic questions. Yeah, that was going to be mine. Yes. That's what I rely on so much where, like I was at a party a week ago and I was like, oh, you're a cop. Okay. Where are you from originally? You went there? Okay. Where'd you go to school colorado oh colorado i know colorado let's talk about fort fort collins colorado and now i'm in the game because i've i've like found a piece that i can connect to that's i i'm glad you brought that up that's something that i do and i just did it the other day i met your office mate for the first time and you teed me up so nicely with it you You're like, he also likes to climb. And I was like, yes, there it is. That's the one. And then we can talk about that. But
Starting point is 00:37:52 it always starts the exact same way. It's me trying to figure out a destination that we have in common. It doesn't have to be where they live. It's just like, if I know anywhere that you've been, we finally have something to talk about. Yeah. And I do it every single time. And it's so hollow because I do do it every single time, but I can't help myself. As soon as I meet somebody, it's the first thing I'm like, instead of the quintessential conversation starters, how about them cowboys? You don't ever start with a declarative sentence. Oh, I guess that's a question.
Starting point is 00:38:21 But like, it's still like you're leading the conversation. Instead, you can just be like, these very open broad questions and as soon as you can narrow in on something you're just like okay all right i'm locked in and now this can be a tolerable interaction which is like not the best way to go and it's that's like panic mode that's going into any conversation with the idea of all i have to do is keep this thing from exploding. Right. And that's how I meet every single human in the world. I remember I was at a party years ago with someone who was also in our vague industry of internet comedy entertainment content.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And we'd met each other before and then we were at this other party. And as soon as I talked to him, I was like, Oh yeah, yeah. Let's let's, uh, so what are you,
Starting point is 00:39:07 what are you working on now? What's, what's going on with your, with your website? And he was like, Hey, let's not talk about work. Let's not talk about internet stuff,
Starting point is 00:39:18 movie stuff. And you would never see me more panicked in my life. It was like, Oh no, that's what I'm supposed to do with you. Can we please? I don't want to talk to you about anything else. This is like all of every conversation is just strategically deployed conversation navigation. And I've been in situations where I'm talking to somebody,
Starting point is 00:39:50 I'm like circling, I'm trying to find anything that we have in common. And when it's not working, and it's clear that I'm asking too many questions, I'll just land on something and just start making stuff up about it. And just like the what limited knowledge I have, and then try and sound like I know what I'm talking about as long as you have like you know the language of everything you're okay i think yeah uh there's special words that are buzzwords of any any field and as long as you can land on one of those people are like oh he knows his shit do you remember your your your first conversations with bacon yes i do i remember exactly where we were. Really? Yeah. Um, bacon was somebody, I think you'd already started working with cracked a little bit. And, uh, my first impression of you was like, Oh, he's a bro. Like he's got no interest in this
Starting point is 00:40:37 incorrect. He's a, he's a bro. And then, uh, I saw him at the gym confirming again that he was a bro to me but we recognized each other and he was so warm and kind and like came up to me and he's like hey soren hey i want to introduce myself my name is michael and we talked for a little bit in the gym and he was very disarming in a way where i was like oh this guy's way more than a bro. And then, of course, find out later that he makes jams and he sings acapella and has 47 pictures of Captain America in his house for whatever reason. Is that the right number, Bacon?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Do you want to speak on that? Yeah, but only three of them are framed. I did some digging. Oh, do you want to speak on that yeah but only three of them are framed i did some digging oh do you remember when you first met bacon i actually don't i uh i i think i was probably antagonistic towards him because he was taking over for uh the person who had his job previously that uh became a very good friend of mine and i like it was it was hard for me to accept a new business bro in this position uh but then i i later found out what a fucking dork he is so we bonded over there yeah i would say that to qualify when i thought he was a bro i didn't think i want nothing to do with him i thought he's too cool for us. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I don't, I'm not going to bother him. I got to track down social media. And while I do that, I wanted to give you some time. You would, I know one of the biggest causes that you champion is that a sweatshop is a derogatory term for what's ultimately a pretty self-empowering opportunity for kids. I wanted to give you the opportunity. You had some other ideas for what they should be called instead that were a little more flattering and to just list a couple of those. Yes. Thank you. Uh, so I didn't want it to be called sweatshop anymore. I wanted it to have different names. Is that the premise of the thing that I said? Yeah. Something a little lighter.
Starting point is 00:42:47 premise of the thing that i said yeah something a little lighter good yep uh i mean just off the top of the dome this is like a first thought that probably you or anyone else listening had is is uh get crops which it uh phenomenally is is similar and it it calls to mind harvesting good ideas and also good like wallets and dresses and whatnot like you're gonna get them you know you're gonna get crops and another thing that i i i thought of was uh sweat stop is that because they a sweat comma stop? Or sweat question mark? Sweat question mark. Okay. Stop. Because you're not going to sweat anymore after you put on these tops and these hats that we're making in this factory.
Starting point is 00:43:37 It wicks the sweat off you. So, like, sweat, stop. You know? you. So like sweat, stop, you know? And another one that I've been toying with is let's stop, which is like, just cool it. Don't investigate what's going on. Let's just, we're all so exhausted. We've all been, we're all so busy. So like, let's just stop, you know? Let's stop looking into things. Yeah. I'm glad that you clarified that, that it wasn't about let's stop these, this practice.
Starting point is 00:44:10 It was let's stop looking into this. Yeah, yeah. Like, Ronan Farrow did his investigation. That's enough investigations for the 2010s, I think. So let's stop. Let's just stop looking into stuff. We did it. We got it.
Starting point is 00:44:29 So like, you know, find another hobby. On Twitter, you can follow... Find another hobby that isn't investigative journalism. As a hobby. Okay. On Twitter, you can follow Daniel at DOB underscore Inc for more insightful ideas like that. Soren at Soren underscore LTD. You can follow Michael at MakeMeBaconPlease, spelled P-L-S. Or you can follow QuickQuestion at QQ underscore Soren and Dan. You can email us at QQ with Soren and Daniel at gmail.com. I'm sure Instagram at some point
Starting point is 00:45:07 will be up and running, but I'm not going to give it to you. Wet mop is another thing we can use to clean it up. Wet mop. Wet mop. Like that conjures to the mind cleanliness, hey?
Starting point is 00:45:18 Right? So maybe we start calling it that. Honestly, that's another job too. What are you doing with your wet mops, Nike? And it's a whole nother job you just created with wet mop. Yeah. You can, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:45:33 You're not going to be able to follow, find, or hire our producer and sound engineer and editor because he doesn't want to be known to this world. He's wearing a bandana right now over his face. So we don't even know his true identity. His name is Gabe, as far as we know. Or you can follow us on Patreon at patreon.com backslash you motherfuckers quick question that's all sad flops that's not the one what do you think that means uh just right like yeah oh okay i mean i i guess if if guess if I had to put a name to it,
Starting point is 00:46:07 Air Bud Golden Receiver. That's a sad flop. Because it didn't do as well as the first Air Bud. These are all good points. It 2. Go on. You're not going to do Celtic Pride? Fine.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I'll talk to you later. you

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