Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - QQ ep 27 - The Correct Way to Get Hit by a CAr

Episode Date: December 18, 2019

In this episode Daniel teaches us the correct way to get hit by a car, and Soren explains why its important to go to the doctor when you might be dying.  And once again, thanks to Skillshare. Get 2 months of unlimited access at Skillshare.com/QQ.

So, hello again and welcome to What Is At The Time, the newest episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel. In this show, two former co-workers, current TV writers, and probable future heads of digital content acquisition for Quibi get together to ask and answer questions that have nothing to do with politics and everything to do with lollitics. I guess I'm in a good mood today. That's weird. At any rate, I'm the half of this podcast that is Daniel. And now we're going to hear from the half that isn't. What's up, Soren? Hey, it's me, Soren Bui. You know, for a while I had a friend who tried to nickname out on me, So. And it didn't stick. And now she's landed on Soar, which I adamantly dislike.

But every time you'd start the podcast was so i think about that oh really who uh the i thought your your your wife sometimes called you sore is that not true she does yeah uh that's sort of gone i when somebody who's very close to me i think i just sort of like flies under the radar for me i don't even notice it because my mom will call me that sometimes too but uh nickname So, she tried out for a while and I didn't say anything but we could both tell it just wasn't working. Then she moved on to Soar

and the way that she says it sounds very much like a sore. I really dislike it. Well, speaking of people who are close to us, I would be remiss if I did not thank... City of Baltimore.

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Is Mads Nicholson his real name? Mads Mickelson. Mickelson. Mads Mickelson. Mickelson. He was in the Rihanna video. He's now on Death Stranding. I'm familiar with him.

Yeah. He's awesome. He's incredible. He's really good. His eye was bleeding in Casino Royale and it just like never came up. They were like, why is your eye bleeding? And he's like, don't worry about it. And that was narratively true.

You shouldn't have worried about it. It was just a mad thing. How about Mads Quickleston? Mads Quickleston? Yeah. Quickleston. Quickleston. Yeah.

Stun. I'm going to stick with stun. Stun. Okay. I hear someone laughing weaselly in the background. Not like a weasel, but like with a wheeze in his voice. Can I hear from him? Hey, Dan. I do have a wheeze in my voice. Bacon's very sick.

I'm under the weather. What do you think you've got? I don't think it's serious. I don't know. I'm looking at him. He looks like Ebola. I do feel unwell okay his insides are liquefying i can tell he's sloshing around over there see so now here's so there are two jokes that i that i'm not sure if i would make or not uh and i would like your guys help because bacon said he's not sure if it's serious and then i thought yahoo serious serious Yahoo answers maybe something there um but then he said I'm

unwell and I thought there's that Matchbox 20 song unwell maybe there's something there so which route do you think I should go with a joke about bacon being sick right now Yahoo serious or Matchbox 20s unwell I go the young Einstein route I go with Yahoo serious Yahoo serious okay yeah so let so let's pretend I did that I made a good joke about it oh Dan the things we do when we have a sponsor behind the episode

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People who are wandering in off the streets and finding us and enjoying the content. Bacon is calling that person a liar. I think that's interesting. Soren, your'm just i'm rattled by the fact that you said you hope there's no ceiling of this podcast that's the nicest thing you've ever said about quick question yeah i'm in a good mood it sucks it's a little hiatus will do to you man yeah well i have a question for you dan and it's quick okay i'll take it what's the closest you've ever been to death um and by that i mean like you had a moment of clarity in a perilous

situation where you thought well this could be it for me yeah i think uh years ago 2012 or 2013, somewhere around there, I was still living in LA at the time, but was visiting New York, New Jersey. It was around this time of year, actually, because it was around Christmas time. And I was going to a bar called West 4th in Manhattan. And I was meeting our friends, Ben Joseph, Brian McElhaney, Nick Kocher, and Caitlin Large. And I was crossing the street and there was a car coming. It was a cab who was also driving that street. And he believed it was his time to go, even though the light was red. And I disagreed. But it didn't matter because he was a car and he was much bigger and stronger than me.

So he hit me. because he was a car and he was much bigger and stronger than me so he hit me oh and i it things moved much slower than they do normally like i turned and saw a car and my brain a part of my brain that i don't control so i can't take any credit for it recognized hey this thing is going much faster than it's supposed to be right now and i was like yes good brain you're right and the brain was like we can't get out of the way of this car and i was like yep that i i've i've i've cross-checked that with my math and agree i can't get out of this way so there so we we were all on the same page that there was no way that i wasn't getting hit by this car and then the good part of my brain took over and moved my body.

I jumped up. I did what I have since learned is the correct way to get hit by a car where I jumped up and turned most of my body. So the car hit my ass. Yeah, the more cushioned areas. Yeah, the most cushioned areas. And I was launched forward off the car the thing that i did wrong was uh put my hand out to be like hey car stop

and my hand was subsequently subsequently crushed between my body and the windshield of the car and uh damaged my fingers for a while. Luckily, knock on wood, didn't die, but it was certainly a moment where I knew I was going to get hit by this car, and my body was going to take over and do whatever it needed to do to

lessen the damage as much as possible. But my brain was like, oh, we're getting hit by a car now. Alright, this might be it. How do you feel? Do you feel good about the fact that your body kind of did the right thing in that moment? I do, yeah. It's very comforting.

The only thing that I did wrong was sticking my arm out, which is like the only decision that I made. The rest of it was like body doing body stuff, and the hand was like me trying to reason with the manager of the establishment. It was like, excuse me, a word, please. And like, that was the only mistake that I made. Yeah. Trying to turn this parallel situation into a civil conversation was probably not the best, but yeah, that's, it's very comforting. I mean, I've been on a, I've been driving before I was in the passenger seat and a friend was driving he started to fall asleep at the wheel and i was already asleep

and i happened to wake up and notice that we were drifting into the other lane and without thinking i reached over and grabbed the wheel and pulled us back into our lane and then woke him up and i and as we were like he was like i need to pull over and sleep and i was like yeah i'll drive and as i was driving i was thinking about all the ways that could have gone and all the terrible circumstances that could have happened. If I jostled him awake, scared him awake, how he would have like turned the wheel, what would have happened. And I, it was like the best case scenario. And I was so proud that my instincts were to just do that and do the right thing. And I was like, I'm going to be okay. Yeah. It's very comforting that my body is smarter than my brain.

I really appreciate that because my brain's pretty dumb. So I'm going to need these instincts. And that's the deal. When I survived getting hit by a car, I talked to my body and I was like, okay, I'm going to keep feeding you. I'm going to keep giving you water. I'm going to do all the things that you need. We're going to sleep. We're going to eat. We're going to drink.

And, and, and you take care of like when it gets scary, you're in charge. Uh, and when you landed on the ground, was there like a moment of euphoria or did, were you just not even sure of how injured you were? Uh, I wasn't sure of how injured I was. There was also, um, I didn't know how much my hand hurt because of adrenaline. I knew that something happened to my hand because as soon as I got up, I was wiggling all of my fingers to prove that my hand still worked. And so when there were like very kind passersby who were asking if I was okay, I would just show them my hand moving.

Be like, I'm okay. Look, look, all the fingers are working. I'm fine. But my main response to getting hit by the car was I was profoundly embarrassed because I felt like I'd made a spectacle of myself. And like, you know, I, especially in New York, I don't want to, I don't want to feel like an idiot or a tourist or a silly person or, or anyone who doesn't belong. And one of the things that happened when I got hit by the car was my cell phone shot out of my pocket, landed on the ground and shattered. And so my main concern when there were all these kind strangers who were like, we should call the hospital. What do you need? What

can we do? And I was like, if you could just like, like, look at my fingers, my hand works. If you could just like help me find my phone, that's all I just need to, I need to get my phone and then I need to go and meet my friends and then I'll be out of everyone's hair and and we'll all be good like that was my main concern was not being a burden to anyone else like even the taxi driver I went to him and I showed him my working fingers and I was like I think we're gonna be okay buddy I think I'm fine so that means you're fine so this is gonna be all right and we don't have to worry about anything and i had strangers help me gather my phone put my phone back together and uh the taxi driver sped off

without anyone getting his plates and then the very kind people who were with me like we're gonna take you to the hospital i was like i don't want to go to the hospital uh not because i was afraid of hospitals or anything but because i had plants and I wanted to stick to those plans. That's where my brain was, which is like, okay, A, get your phone. B, check your hand. C, do your plans because you're expected at this bar. So do that. And these strangers whose names incidentally were Dan and Dave, they wouldn't let me go.

So I had to text our friend Ben Joseph. And I was like, hey, I'm at the corner of this and this. I got hit by a car. They're not letting me go. You got to come and get me. And so Ben came and the strangers, Dan and Dave, were like, don't listen to this guy. He got hit by a car. He's on adrenaline right now.

He needs to go to a hospital. And he was like, okay, thank you. I will do that. And then they released me to Ben's custody. And then we walked across the street and Ben was like, are you fine? I was like, I think I'm fine. And he was like, I think you're fine too. And then we went to the bar.

That's the thing that doesn't get enough credit in movies or enough play in movies is that when you are in a really perilous situation where you almost die or think you could have, the first thing you're hit with is a bunch of shame. Yeah. And you just want to get out of that situation. Like when you think about movies, the damsel in distress trope. If a man saves a woman in that circumstance, her first instinct is not going to be, oh my God,

you saved me. I'm in love with you. It's going to be, I need to be alone right now and I need to not be near people because I'm so embarrassed about the circumstances of this. My dad used to be on mountain rescue and he would, occasionally they would find living people. It's very rare up in the mountains with people.

Somebody gets stuck up there. Generally they'd be dead but occasionally they'd find somebody who was alive and when they'd come and get them and rescue them the person's reaction was never i'm going to keep in touch with you forever you saved my life the person's reaction is i i humiliation and anger that they had to be rescued so they don't even like seeing the mountain rescue people who came and got them. The one exception is a little girl who was in a plane crash and she was very excited because there's no ego there yet. But all the adults, it's such a strange reaction,

but very, very common in those circumstances is to be basically mad at your savior. Yeah. I felt that even last year falling off my bike and breaking my wrist, it was like a bad driver that caused the accident and another driver who also drove off and didn't inspect what happened. But still, even falling down and having a lot of pain was like, oh, fuck. I'm supposed to be an example of a good biker in Los Angeles.

I'm not supposed to fall. I'm in the bike lane. This sucks real bad. I see other bikers going by. I hope they don't tell anyone. And strangers are going like, hey, that looks really bad. And you're like, no, I'm fine. Shut up.

God. Of course I'm fine. Everybody look the other way right now, please. Why would you ask that? I'm okay. God. Yeah. What was your confronting death moment i had two on the same trip to costa rica i went with my now wife when she was my girlfriend and her sister

um they were actually there for a long time and i came and i went up with them and one day we were going to try surfing and i don't surf no it's hard. Despite what my hair color might tell you. And so I went out there on the water. I would, for a while, I would just hold the board and we'd like wait for a wave while Colleen was on it. And then I would push her into the wave at exactly the right time

to really humiliate her. Like, no, I'd push it. I'd try and get her on a wave. And it was working somewhat, but paddling yourself into a wave is very, very difficult. And so they went in, sat down on the beach and laid down and I stayed out there and was trying to surf and didn't understand the concept of undertow.

And there was no, it's an empty beach, uh, no lifeguards or people or anything. And I start to feel myself drifting further and further out. And I don't know how to get back. And I'm getting so far out that I'm like, I don't know that they could hear me if I shouted for them. And they were both sleeping on the beach. And I was like, I think maybe I just go out to sea now. And I didn't know what to do. And I thought that might be the end for me. I didn't know that you're supposed to like paddle at a 90 degree angle across parallel to the beach and then find a new way in. I eventually ended up doing basically that, but accidentally trying to fight my way back in, trying to swim back in.

Even you saying that right now is very helpful to, uh, if not our listeners, me, because that's Yeah. You're supposed to paddle parallel to the beach for a while and then you'll find a place where you can, it'll, the water will still carry you in. That was very scary. And when I got in, I mean, there was a whole period of time where I thought I knew I was drifting further. I needed help, but I was so embarrassed by it. I wasn't even going to tell my girlfriend that I was going to drift off to sea and die. I was like, it'll just be easier if I do it.

I mean, you don't want to bother her. She's sleeping. Right. And then on that same trip, on my birthday, we went to a restaurant. Afterwards, I was feeling very full. And then I started to feel too full. And then I started throwing up. And that throwing up lasted the entire night. Oh, is this when you were throwing up blood? Yeah. So, I was throwing up in a bathroom that didn't have a light in it it was like a little hostile and kept throwing up and then get to a point where i it was just bile you know like

when you wreck wretch and you're not getting anything else up and then all of a sudden something substantial came up and i was like well i got a whole bunch of new fluid in my body where did that come from and looked in the toilet and it's very dark and realized that i was throwing up blood and i thought okay like this is, I die in Costa Rica. That's weird. That's not how I thought this would go. That's not what the witch said. And didn't want to bother them again.

So it sounds like they're terrible people that I don't want to tell them about my injury. It's more just my own ego where I was like, fuck, maybe this will just go away. Maybe this isn't forever. And slept that night and was so thirsty in the way where i it made me sympathize with people in westerns who are shot and immediately they're like can you just get me some water yeah hey and i was like because i'm watching those you're like what are you gonna do in water it's a waste of water, buddy. It just drains the fluids from your body. And so I was so, so thirsty.

And we had barely any of the water left that she and I were splitting. And eventually I just drank the whole thing. And she was upset about that until I told her that I was throwing up blood. And then they were like, okay, do you want to go to a doctor? And I said, no. Smart, good. I didn't trust the doctors in Costa Rica. And there's no reason not to. I didn't also know how the insurance worked down there. I didn't know anything. So I was like, maybe this will just go away. And eventually it did. Like my fever started to subside. I wasn't throwing up blood anymore and things got better.

And then I came back to the States and went to a doctor here. And I was like, so I did this weird thing in Costa Rica where I threw up blood. Crazy, right? Probably fine. I'm going to go. And they did some tests and everything. And they found out that I had this thing called Mallory Weiss tears in my esophagus, which means that I was throwing up so hard that it created tears in my esophagus and they started to bleed. And apparently those don't heal all the time and you can just bleed out from them. Like alcoholics bleed out from those sometimes because they throw up so frequently. And it just creates these, and now there's just some scar tissue in my esophagus. But it was, the doctor was like, it was very serious.

You should have gone to the doctor. It was stupid not to. And I was like, okay, no, you're right. You're right. That's next time. Next time. And it's crazy in those moments how your ego is still in complete control. Yeah.

You still don't want to be in that situation. You don't want anyone to know you're in that situation. And you're humiliated that you landed in it, regardless of whether it's your fault or not. Right. This wasn't life or death. But when I started to lose vision in my right eye due to stress because of a condition that I've since learned is called central serous retinopathy. It was a thing that I didn't go to doctors for for a while. gradually losing vision in my right eye and uh struggling to see in the daylight and i couldn't read or write properly and i was like sitting uh with in my apartment with the shades drawn

wearing sunglasses like like a like uh like an angry weekend at bern ghost and not telling anyone about it. Just like weeks went by. We're just like, well, I'm either losing my vision or I'm going insane either way. I don't want to be a burden to anyone. So I'll just ride this out. I'll just see how far this goes until I finally started going to doctors.

And I called my mom and she very helpfully relayed all of our family's history of vision problems. And I was like, oh, this is good information to have. I'd gone to doctors and they were like, does your family have a history of vision problems? I was like, nope. And then I talked to my mom and I was like, let me amend that real quick. Yeah. I don't know why we do that. It's like, I wonder if that's just a guy thing. I don't, yeah. Like I, you frame it as an ego thing, which it very well might be.

I've always termed it as a, I don't want to be a problem for anyone else thing, but it might be an ego thing. You're probably right. Yeah. Anyways, that's a fantastic subject that we're going to move right away from. And I have a question for you, but we're not going to get to that until after this break. This podcast is brought to you by Skillshare. Skillshare is an online learning community with thousands of amazing classes covering dozens of creative and entrepreneurial skills.

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that is just funny, I don't think that exists anymore. I feel like non-political Twitter at this point has become this strange series of quote, tweet this with your most controversial opinion about x and sometimes people are just doing some questions like when is a time you were embarrassed in your youth i'll start and then they do it and then people make a thread about it i feel like there used to be jokes on twitter and silliness and uh now like hunter harris Dylan Galula, Jimmy Loftus, Io Adebiri, Natalie Walker, Katie Delaney, like four other women whose names escape me right now.

And Rajat and Brian Frenzy are the only people still doing honest to God jokes. And the rest of it is like Andy Richter retweeting something from politics and being like, I have no words. Goodness gracious. This is what our world's become. Wow. Yeah. And it's just a bummer. Like what's Twitter for anymore? I agree with you. I think that you've worked on the internet before, you know what it means to chase traffic and like what you have to do to chase traffic. And also you have a good sense of what creates traffic. And that's a really ugly thing. That's like a ugly hornet's nest, which is

the idea is you have to make somebody feel in order for them to interact with you. And generally, it's much easier to make somebody feel bad or self-righteous or sanctimonious than it is to make them laugh and so it's you get a lot of traction on twitter from a post that's just political than you do from a joke because the joke's not going to land with everybody and when you see that as a person like it's it's hard not to to make that become part of the way that you use twitter certainly it was for me. I used to do just like a lot of jokes too. You did too. I don't see you on there anymore. No.

I'm not a salmon. I'm not going to swim upstream. The problem is I'll still try and do it. But I'm also not going to like do what is working on Twitter right now. Yeah. And working on Twitter right now is esteemed comedians saying, Mitch McConnell resigns, sir. Like, that's not fun.

It's not fun. I mean, I agree with you, but like, I don't enjoy that. It's not good. Yeah. I mean, it's such a hard thing to say if that's good or bad because maybe it's necessary, right? We don't know. This is a pretty bad time politically.

And that you have everybody is talking about the same thing and everybody's conscious of it. There's no differentiation for people who are comedians. They're still going to have to deal with this thing too and bring it up so it's in everybody's face all the time. know if that's cathartic for people i don't i i just don't know it may turn out like it may shake out that that was very helpful in in the turning point of getting people who wouldn't ordinarily vote or be interested in politics finally listening to politics right um even separate from the the politics side of things i feel like joke twitter has fallen by the wayside a bit like it's become like very format driven where we're not making new jokes we're just taking like as soon as a format emerges like uh one of the recent ones was the doctor on a plane yeah uh flight attendant colon is there a doctor on this plane dad nudges me that could have been you right etc etc. Yeah. And then people have done that format over and over again.

And they haven't really created a new spin on the format. They're not saying anything about the format or making new jokes. They're just, I don't know, remixing it slightly. And I feel like that's most of Twitter and most of online jokes right now is that we're just doing remixes of something, references and remixes to me mining it all the way to the ground. It's just pulling all the water from that. Well, but then that's what,

that's what, but also like, I'm, I'm very open to the fact that like, maybe I'm old. I mean, I'm, I'm certainly older than,

than people who are doing memes and doing stuff on Twitter right now. I just, I don't know where, it's no longer a platform that encourages creative comedic innovation. I don't know that I agree with that. No? Okay. No, I think that there are still some people who are doing a good job of it. Right, I named like the nine of them. I think there's still a lot

of people who are uh who are doing it right and or i shouldn't say doing it right doing it the way that you're thinking of which is just like some absurdist humor that has nothing to do with anything and they're still and because i still chuckle at those it means that it's still working it's still i it's them i think it's just a macro version of the... You hate the micro version, which is everybody taking one specific theme and putting on themselves unnecessary restrictions and then trying to make jokes within that. That's what Twitter is, though.

Twitter is putting unnecessary restrictions on yourself through this social website and then seeing how you can play within those restrictions. Yeah. And I don't know. I'm fine fine with it i think it's okay i i should be fine with it too i do get pretty depressed though you're right i mean like scrolling through it i i get it's pretty easy to get overwhelmed and bummed out and but it means all the more when you see like brian frenzy doing something completely absurdist and great and you're like like, oh, this is really good.

Yeah. Have you guys used, I had someone show me TikTok for the first time. Yeah, I know TikTok. I haven't used it. I know that it's huge for fans of Beetlejuice the Musical. Sometimes you say stuff, I don't know if you're kidding with me or not.

A lot of incredible Beetlejuice the Musical TikToks out there. Well, there's this thing that – so I think most of the content is probably not for us. It's like people singing or dancing to pop hits, I think. Or Beetlejuice the Musical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Say my name. Don't speak for me, Bacon.

Sounds great. But there's – it's easy to edit things. You can do a quick edit. And there's a part of it that's becoming what Vine used to be, which I thought Vine was actually a very interesting alternative to the trash YouTube long form stuff that's not good. I mean, I think I wanted to continue what you're saying, but I do feel like Vine has gotten a really great renaissance

that is aided by the fact that there are a lot of YouTube compilations of the best Vines. I think people are ignoring the fact that there was a whole lot of shit on Vine when Vine was at its peak. But go on. I actually only know, I never installed Vine, or I guess it was through Twitter, but I only know it through those compilations. And actually, the only time I see a TikTok video is through Reddit or something like that,

where it's gone through the layer of aggregation and filtration that I'm now seeing what i imagine is the very best specifically for me yeah i've seen tiktok videos occasionally make their way the same way where like it trickles into my consciousness turned into my periphery because i'm on twitter and somebody has figured out to get a tiktok video on twitter somebody has some genius and it's the same sort of thing where i'm like oh this doesn't look so bad yeah but then every once in a while i'll see ones where there's like a there there i'll see that they've got some meme over there where they're like this is what you could have had or something

like that where there's like somebody who's looking sort of raggedy and a little haggard and they're like smile at the camera and everything and then they put their hand over the camera and then they pull it away and they're beautiful yeah all of a sudden and i'm like oh that shit's not for me right so much of tiktok is is steeped in many layers of of memes that have already left you behind and left me behind and we just have to accept that yeah Yeah. Like you can, there's thousands of memes of teens who are using camera tricks to make it look like they are eating their own fingers to the song of the Kidz Bop's version of Wake Me Up by Evanescence. Like that's a trend on TikTok that exists. You can find several of those videos. That sounded like a Mad Libs.

I know. It's really, it's just, it's designed to weed out old folks like us. Yeah. And mission accomplished. Yeah. It's like trying to keep up with pop culture is like being an NFL running back. I feel like, I'm not that old. What happened? How come I have to retire?

It's really, I think, I'll direct you to some of these conversations privately, but you coming up as you did as like like writing on the internet writing articles and then and then doing uh proprietary web service and then eventually youtube uh you have your own perspectives on how the internet has changed it's been very fascinating for me to read perspectives from the the the vine kids people who like grew up on Vine and are now heralded as elder statesmen of internet video. Vine kids having opinions on TikTok is very fascinating to me. Oh. As a pre-YouTube person who is now observing these things.

Right. I think you'd like it too. Oh, interesting. Like Viners have strong opinions on TikTok and how it's an inferior follow-up to Vine. And I'm just like, ah, you're all weird to me. You feel like Dr. Manhattan, like you've seen all the time. You're like, oh, what are they talking about? I'll just sit here on Mars.

This is stupid. I'm not playing anymore. That's very fascinating though. And I wonder if they, is there like reverence among the TikTok community for the vines of yesteryear? There's a lot of theft. Like a lot of TikTok is stealing vines. Not a lot of v is stealing. Oh yeah. Not a lot of vines were stealing other content.

That's basically, those are the only other times I see vines, or not vines, uh, see TikTok is that somebody will have posted and people say you can't be funny without being controversial. And then it'll be like a vine. That's like a good, I'm not a vine, fuck, sorry. Uh, it's like a TikTok. That's a pretty funny joke. And then everyone underneath it will be like, no, actually this is stolen.

Like they'll be like, it'll be some young kid who's just taken a joke from twit from tumblr or twitter and made it into a video and i don't know i mean people have so many different opinions on stealing now anyway that i don't do they even consider it theft i i do i'm angry about it on their behalf. I also, I feel like one day, once this podcast takes off and we get a little money and my beak is just fucking drenched, I would love to do a longer nonfiction podcast

about the evolution of internet content from when we started to whatever the fuck is happening now but that's a topic for a future day that's something you could do on your hiatus dan you can start researching that okay i'll do it but in the meantime we're gonna wrap this up uh and i've got to track down all the social accounts uh they're i don't know why I always do this. I put them in a box and I jam them in my closet. And now I have to go open the closet, open the box,

remember the password for the box. That's fine. I could just do it. I have them right here. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, like I'm already up, so I'm just going to do it. But while I'm doing that, Soren, you've been working on your South African accent.

Care to share? More than you know. I'm pretty proud of this one. It's one that I've been working on in my car. I do it with my son occasionally too. It goes a little something like this. Hey, hey, man. What?

Why are you hassling me? Let me be. Let me just go on my way. Hey, man. What's the problem here okay now in this scene i'm like i'm a vendor and i'm like trying to sell you to sell you fruit okay hey do you want to buy buy some fruit amen i don't want your fruit leave me alone i don't want your fruit i'm not hassling you okay all right all right. I buy. Okay. Here we go.

I buy. What's the money? We're slipping around here. Let me see if I can nail this down a little better. Okay. Give me some star fruit. Some state gaming. No, that's not it.

Hey. And like, what's the currency that you're going to hand me? Queen Victoria coin. Yeah. Is that wrong? I don't know. Oh. You're the expert.

This should cover my star fruit. Queen Victoria coin. Hey, Chappie, get over here. You can find me on Twitter at D-B underscore INC or Soren at Soren underscore LTD or Bacon at Make Me Bacon Please PLS. Or you can find the show at QQ underscore Soren and Dan. You can email us if you feel like it. You can find us on Instagram.

Probably. We also have a Patreon, which you can find by Patreon patreon slash qq i'm turning into a prawn man all right that feels good why did you go with starfruit um i wanted something exotic and i like i don't know if they've got grapes i don't know i've never been to south africa i mean there's great wine out of Africa, so they probably have grapes. Is that what Out of Africa is about? Yeah. It's about grapes.

Oh, wine. Okay. I'll have to see that movie again. All right. Bye. Bye. Bye.