Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - Seven Emmys in a One-Bedroom

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

Forgive us if this is getting predictable, but Daniel's back from another Emmys weekend in Los Angeles — his seventh award, but the first time he’s actually given the speech. He and Soren talk through the stress of timing jokes against Nate Bargatze’s running bit, how John Oliver beat him to the shortest-speech gag, and what it feels like to have too many trophies in a small apartment. Plus detours into plane movies (Mickey 17 and, controversially, Oblivion), fake dicks in White Lotus, and why some celebrities are simply more naked than others.To explore coverage, visit ASPCApetinsurance.com/QUESTION.  The ASPCA is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insuranceFollow the guys on Bluesky!https://bsky.app/profile/danielobrien.bsky.socialhttps://bsky.app/profile/sorenbowie.bsky.socialBonus episodes 2x/month at patreon.com/quickquestion OR Apple Podcasts

I've got a quick, quick question for you all right. I want to hear your thoughts, all I know what's on your mind. I've got a quick, quick question for you, all right. The answer's not important. I'm just glad that we could talk tonight. So what's your favorite? How did you get? When do I be?

What's it out? Where did all that? Why do we know? Oh, forget it. I saw a movie Daniel O'Brien. Two best friends of comedy. If there's an answer, they're gonna find it. I think you'll have a great time here.

I think you'll have a great time here. So, hello again and welcome to another episode. A quick question with Soren and Daniel, the podcast. We're two best friends and comrades. Ask each other questions and give each other answers. I am one half of that podcast. See you writer for last week tonight with John Oliver, author of Hower, author of How to Fight Presidents,

and seven-time Emmy winner, Daniel O'Brien, Dorn and say hello. Everybody else, I'm sorry for American Dad, and I don't really have much to say to Daniel because everything I wanted to tell him, I told him in person. He was in Los Angeles, collecting his Emmy and flying off in business class again,

like he was just here for, dropped in to get his Emmy and leave. I, speaking of business class, was on a plane. uh it doesn't matter what class and uh my movie situation going from l a to new jersey was so dialed in i saw mickey seventeen movie i had not seen before yeah and it was great and it was long and it ruled and then immediately after put on the departed a movie i'd seen many times so i could kind of fall asleep during it and it was the perfect timing you've ever seen for this this this long long stretch of time that just these two movies in this order nothing beats it what did you think of Mickey 17 so good so good and weird I didn't see when it came

out I think a lot of people who are sharper than me were already on the post Twilight Robert Pattinson era yeah about him being like a good weird character director yeah rules um i i've been behind on that and i also am behind on uh the director uh bang jun who is that right yes yeah uh i never saw parasite that's my my first of his movies i think and it was a great place to start awesome it's so different i love when movies get to be different yeah there's So Robert Patton is somebody who I would, I've been like all about. He was in a movie, I think there's like a future movie that he does with Guy Pearce. Maybe it's called the Rover.

I think it's called the Rover. And it's, it's excellent. It's really good. And it just slipped past everybody. I think because it's Australian. But well worth watching. And I was like, holy shit. This guy's got chops and everything I've seen him in since.

I love him. I love him in the Batman. I love him in everything. I think he's great. Yeah, I don't love that Batman movie, but he's very good in it. And he was on my radar for giving really strange interviews and having an oddball energy on press tours, which I always kind of respect as its own, like, completely separate form of art. Yeah, because it's, you know what it is? It's a lack of decision.

Dakota Johnson's got it too where they're just like it's not clear what they're doing and I don't think they know either I think they're just they walk into an interview and they're like let's just see what happens if I fuck this up yeah right because there's no real like there are no ethical responsibilities you probably professionally you have to do a certain amount of these press events and you have an obligation to at some point

promote the thing that you're doing but it's got to be so vague yeah you know there's there might be some character clauses in there for some actors that like you can't embarrass the studio but i feel like in in many cases the goal is just going to be like hey robert patinson um do you think you can make news for a little while there's there's a really great one i think they might have come out during glad eater too but it's i think it's joseph queen and i think Pascal doing one of these press junkets and the when the woman is asking them a question in the middle of her question she accidentally talks about like as she's talking the words blow and job end up together in the sentence and then Joseph Quinn

just turns very slowly to Pedro as Pedro is trying to answer the question and just stares at him and just like no smirk nothing just stares at Pedro as Pedro's trying his last to like keep it together it's really wonderful It's only me, Daniel, now. I don't even know if Gabe is here. I think I'm frozen. Okay, so, yeah, Joseph Quinn, here's the words blowjob occur together and doesn't make a face. Doesn't even like, he's towards camera, he's stone-faced.

But Pedro's desperately trying to answer the question, and Joseph Quinn just slowly turns towards him and just stares at him. And both of them know what's going on. Both of them know that, like, at any point, you could fuck up this whole press junket by responding to the words blowjob. and Joseph just but he can't help himself but fuck with Pedro Pascal and it's wonderful that's fun it's got to be you've got to try to find your fun wherever you can in those press junkets I think that must be it yeah anyway Robert Pattinson wonderful I think that's a great double feature I's so good and I haven't seen departed in a really long time but I've seen it 10 hundred times and I'm sure if if I were still in my I'm sure even now

I was going to say if I was, like, in my dating profile era, and someone found out that I, like, departed from my dating profile, I would be on some kind of bus feed list of, of red flags. Here's a red flag. But I don't, I just think it rules. Shut up. I know. I know all this stuff. I mean, everybody, and it's great. It's great.

Everybody. And you know what it is? Is it like, you think you've got everybody. And you're like, oh, everybody's acting their asses off here. And then you get to Mark Wahlberg again. And you're like, oh, yeah, you're the best part of this movie. For me, this time around, it was Alec Baldwin. I was like, oh, this fucking guy, that's right.

He's got like three scenes and he kills it in a different way in every single one of them. Yeah. It's a very fun movie. It's so fun. And everyone's using those dumb voices. And not Martin Sheen. Martin Sheen refuses to do it. But everybody else is doing Boston.

Anthony Anderson doesn't even sniff at it, which is great. And so what if there's a rat at the end? So what? I liked it. I didn't know what the movie was about until then. There is a movie that I, there's two actually two movies that I go back to regularly, and I will watch tip to tail because I love them so much and they were not successful movies. One is any given Sunday.

I can't turn off any given Sunday if it's on. And then the movie Oblivion, which I don't think anybody saw. I saw it. Yeah, that's Tom Cruise. Yeah. I think that it's really well structured and well done. I think that the reveals are good. I think that he's so compelling to watching it.

And the way that you establish, like, who these characters are, what they're interested in, what they do, what their relationship is to one another, is really well executed. that that is the of the two future sci-fi tom cruise movies that came out around the same time that nobody saw that is the wrong choice yeah the day after tomorrow right or edge of tomorrow edge of tomorrow edge of tomorrow which is uh live die repeat live die repeat it was renamed to live die repeat because it did so poorly at the box office that they were like maybe we'll just change the name no one will be No one's attached to this name, even though it came out under that name. Let's just get another shot. I mean, I love that movie, too.

But there's something about Oblivion where I'm like, especially the whole beginning where he's just on this planet by himself, cruising around, like hanging out in stadiums and stuff. Plant and plant, like, carrying a little plant with him. I'm like, I'm in it. I love it. Morgan Freeman's in that movie. Did you remember that? I did remember that. That's the only other thing I remember about that movie.

The hand is also in it, whatever his name was. Oh, really? Yeah, the Kingslayer. What's his name? Nigelage Costa Waldo. Also in it, yeah. Wow. There is, in my memory, it's, I remember Tom Cruise, Morgan Freeman, and God help me, woman.

There was a woman in that movie, right? She's a redhead, and she was also in, uh-oh. This doesn't look good. It's not Emily Blunt. I'll tell you that much. No, because she's lived and I repeat. That's right. It is Olga.

No, this is that really her? Olga Carolinko? Kralienko? Oh. No, it's not her. It's Andrea Reisembrough, I think. Okay. You know who I'm talking about?

Yeah. Andrea Reisembrough. Sure. She was in. Oh, she's a very interesting looking person. She was in the grudge. and she's in Birdman. Ah.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't remember from any of these movies. She's wonderful, though. She's wonderful, good. I'll check that movie out again

because I haven't watched it in a minute. Yeah. I guess I should check it out again. On a plane. So I can talk to you. Oblivion is very much a good plane movie. Okay.

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This is a paid advertisement. Insurance is underwritten by either Independence, American Insurance Company or United States Fire Insurance Company and produced by PTZ Insurance Agency Limited. The ASPCA is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance. I want to, again, I know you don't like talking about it. I want to say congratulations again because you deserve this. And not only do you deserve this, I think it's very exciting that you also spoke. Thank you.

Because that's the thing I've also been waiting for. I've been waiting for not only that you get the Emmys you deserve, because you guys make a wonderful show, but that you yourself are recognized, that you get to be up there on stage, and you get to speak in the microphone and say thank you. It's wonderful. Yeah, it was lots of fun.

It was, I'm sure I've mentioned on this show before that I never wanted to give this speech on behalf of our show because it didn't seem like a fun thing to do. I mean, being on stage and talking seems like a fun thing to do, but having it in your head for the entire day of the Emmys. Yeah, it's tough. Never appealed to me. And so the way our show works is any writer who wants to speak

puts their name in a hat, and they put names out of a hat, and that person gives the speech. And I just never put my name in a hat before, and I was, like, vocal about that with coworkers and my wife as well, because she was like, why haven't you ever given the speech? And so it doesn't seem fun. I don't want to do it. And then she has had intimated a few times that she thinks it would be nice to see me up there giving a speech.

And there was a lot of ifs, but I still had it back in my head like, okay, if I'm, if I have, if I have an opportunity to surprise my wife in a big way with something that she'll like, I'm going to find a fucking way to do it. Yeah. And this time I did. And the way I found was putting my name in the hat. And they picked my name, which was nice. And then a lot of other stuff needed to break my way, our way. And they did, which was really handy. Like we needed to, I needed to put my name in the hat and they needed to pick my name. That was step one. Step two is we needed to win the Emmy for rating, which is not a guarantee any year. And we're up against Daily Show and Saturday. Saturday Night Live for writing and they're both really great shows, very different, three very different shows and I think it could, anyone could win any year. But that was if number two, and then the final step of it was like, I need to convince, I need to like ask my coworkers a favor because my co-workers know Shea. And when we're out, Emmy's weekend, I was like, guys, I know this is really self-indulgent and this is really annoying, but if you see my wife, she doesn't know I'm giving the special.

if we win. So like don't say anything. That's great. To me about it around her. Don't say like, are you nervous or anything like that? Because this is, because I'm lying to my wife. And they were like, that's super cute. It's really sweet. And I went to one of my coworkers, Charlie, Charlie Redd, who rules. He is the only writer who did not put his name in the hat. And I went to him and I said, Charlie, do me this favor. I know Shay is going to ask who's giving the speech. I'm telling her it's you. Will you lie to my wife? If she comes up to you and asks you, if you're nervous about the speech, just say like, yes. And he's like, yeah, totally no problem. I got that. I picked Charlie because, like, because he didn't put his name in and I thought this is, it seemed like it would be

it would be cruel for anyone who wanted to give the speech to have to pretend that they were giving it. And so he seemed like the safest and smartest bet. And everyone of my coworkers was was keeping the cool all weekend and not tipping off Shea at all. Shea, as I predict, asked me who was giving the speech. I said, Charlie, we are at the Emmys. We're sitting next to Charlie. And Shay immediately is like, Charlie, are you nervous?

And I'm just saying like, oh boy, I don't know how Charlie is as an actor. I hope we can sell this. And he goes, I'm really nervous. I practice it a whole lot, but just in case. And this motherfucker pulls out a fake speech out of this pocket. I have a backup plan, which like, I didn't tell him to bring a prop. This is just him selling this lie. And I'm like, this guy is such a mensch.

Also, he has, he did this so easily. There's, how much does he even lie to you? It's just so natural. I wonder what's written on that piece of paper. I know, I'd really like to know. That's, yeah, that can be troubling. We play a lot of games like, games that are designed, like Werewolf, where you're like, the whole point of the game is to lie. And we do that within our neighborhood with the other parents.

And I, every single time we play, people are like, you're really good at this game. And then you watch the next thought they have, which is, you're really good at lying. And everyone just, you look to me in the eyes. Everyone just sort of sits with that for a little while. And I'm like, well, I don't, I mean, I liked the first part of that when you're telling me I was good at the good thing.

Yeah, I can lie in the game. Doesn't mean, I could, I definitely. Could. I just, but I'm not gonna. Don't dwell on how good I am at line. Just appreciate that I don't do it. Just trust me that I don't. Look at me.

I don't do it. Look at me. I have all these weapons at my disposal, and I'm not using them against you. Think about that. Don't you want someone like me around for that reason. You want me on that wall. Yeah. Other speech stuff, and then we can close this.

loop at some point because it is really fun to give a speech at the Emmys and there's like that it's incredible there's just definitely like there's no way around it Harrison Ford is there and looking at me and did you did you talk to Nate Bergazzi no I did not but the other the other thing about this if you hadn't seen my speech you can find it online if you hadn't seen the Emmys host Nate Bargazzi had a running bit the entire show where he announced in the beginning that part of his job is to make sure the show runs on time and speeches is where the show runs over. So his bit was he is going to donate

$100,000 to the Boys and Girls Club of America. For every second that you go over your speech, he is going to take $1,000 away from that total. For every second that you are under, he is going to give that to the total. And it was a running thing all night when like someone would give an emotional and very sweet, but kind of long.

speech a ticker would come up on the board to show how much money they were taking away from children yeah how much money they were stealing from children to indulge this yeah and so this whole day in addition to what I was right about being about giving a speech being a stressful thing to think about all day it was in my head and it was impossible to practice because I shared a hotel room with my wife she disappeared at one point to go and like turn in to to pick up a a curling iron from one of our friends. And then she came back sooner than I thought.

So she walked in on me wearing just my tuxedo pants and my suspenders on, but no shirt. And I'm standing inches from the mirror talking to myself. And she walks in, and like, there's no way this could be part of getting ready. I'm not even holding cufflinks or anything, right? Right. In fact, you had to start undressing just to get dressed from my position.

Yeah, yeah. So I was stressed. It was hard to practice. I kept looking at my phone throughout to look at my speech and try to like commit the turn of phrase to memory. And also the added thing on top of it is I was tweaking and working on it up until the last second because I was talking to co-worker Sina during commercial breaks about the Napagazzi bit. bit and as the night went on no one was really taking the bait and doing it with it everyone was understandably giving the speech that they'd always dreamed of giving um and i was talking to see it and i was like if no one else does this i think the it might be funny and the best use of my time

might be fuck you nate bargazzi 40 000 up on the board and then on away and just have the the shortest speech ever and i was like if someone else does that then uh then i shouldn't do it because it doesn't because like it should really be be done once and uh as the night was going on i was convincing myself more and more like i think i'm going to do this i think this is yeah like i will i think it's funnier to do that than any joke that i had planned and i think that's a cool use of my time there's honestly the you as last week tonight as a show that's like perfect because you're also you've won enough of these you can get up there

and no he's going to be like oh that was a gun grateful or anything like that they're just going to be like oh that's a really good bit the only thing that I was missing when thinking about that was like was we have a whole staff that doesn't get to go to the Emmys and doesn't get to be on

stage or get a trophy and I was like well it'd be such a bummer to not call out the rest of our people but I was ready to do that and then lo and behold they do our show category before they do writing category and so our show one

and John Oliver this was we didn't talk about this in advance he gets up and his speech is exactly thank you people at HBO thank you to our whole staff fucking Apakazi put the money back in the board

and he runs off and has a short speech and then I was texting scene and he was like okay you can't do it now it's like okay good we've got that and then studio did a very similar thing and again they were in a position where they had won like three awards that night and by the fourth award right set rogan and evan goldberg could just be like end of speech goodbye thank you and get out of there and put more money on the board i still uh did my dumb speech and was still like hyper focused on

there's a 45 second timer right in front of you and it starts ticking down once you start talking and i had said a couple of the jokes that i had prepared i had a third joke that i just threw away because i there was like it was clear to get there was an opportunity to put 10,000 more dollars up on the board so I clipped it short for boys and girls club and we ran off the stage and I I still feel good about the spirit of that decision yeah none of it mattered at the end of the night they just CBS and they Bargazzi just donated 350,000 like agnostic of whatever was going on with the bit it does but you can live in the bit like it's like it's real in the moment it's real for the show and so yeah that's a great bit i'm glad that i'm glad that john oliver did it yeah i am too

i'm very like came to the same you guys came the same conclusion yeah i think it's it's it's clear that we work for the same show similar goals the only other thing about the speech that i'm I'm proud of, which was like a pure, some real instinct that I have no control over. As I said, my first joke, and people, the audience started clapping. And I very instinctively scolded them and said, stop it, because the timer was going down. And also, I don't, I don't want claptor. I just don't want it. I'm not interested.

What is this? What is this thing you're all doing with your hands? Stop that. Stop that. It's loud. Okay. No, no, I didn't anticipate that. But yeah.

And then you guys do each one, does every single one of the writers get an Emmy then after that? Yes. Yeah. What are you doing with all your Emmys? Oh, no, I think I know. I think we've already talked about this on the show. You give them to your family members.

And then you keep that one that's right behind you. Well, there will now, there's one. there's one for each family member and and now three in the house because we have yeah we have that many it's seven total and uh right we don't know what to do that's that's a that's a fun way to when people because this is always the question you get when people ask you what you do the first thing you say is you were ready for television and they say what show then you tell them the show and then the next thing they ask is how long have you been doing that and it really fun bit for you would be like, well, let's see, I have seven Emmys. So seven years? Yeah. That would be a fun bit.

People would really, people would really like me, I think. It would be a fun bit for me, a witness is what I mean. But you can only remember how many years you've been on the show by how many Emmys you have, because obviously there's one a year. It's an annual thing. I think one of the humbling Emmy things that I will keep with me forever. I can't remember if we talked about this or not, But the first year, I won an Emmy with the show. And we had, I had it in my apartment in New York right in, I mean, it's a small apartment. You could see the kitchen from the toilet. So there's, there's no non-prominent place to put an Emmy.

And I put it on my TV stand. And I had my friends and a couple of their friends that I had not met. They'd come over a few months later to just hang out and have drinks in my apartment. And one of the, the. women that I didn't know that she saw the Emmy she was like what is that I was an Emmy it's I I want an Emmy for writing for this TV show that wins Emmys and she looks at it she goes so what do you do when you're not winning Emmys and I was like that's a really good point fucking nothing you're absolutely right what does that

even mean I know what does that mean I do remember the first time you want an Emmy I didn't go with you to the Emmys but but I did come to your hotel room afterwards and hang out. And I remember being drunk and just holding your Emmy and eating the fondant cake that they gave you at a celebration. And really, that's all I needed. I don't think I need an Emmy now. I think just holding it in a hotel room while eating the fucking foam frosting on top of a cake was enough for me. There are a lot of people from, and full disclosure, I will give anyone who wants to hold and take a picture with the Emmy.

that opportunity because it'd be it's a silly thing to not do so on the walk from the emmy's theater to the the governor's gala afterwards there's just a lot of people who will stop you and like can i just can i take a picture holding the emmy and it some people are just like very very bullish like may i take may i take that and take a picture please and i'm like yeah sure of course what kind of monster would i be if i said no and some people it's very cute they're like is it it heavy? And they want to hold it. Well, why don't you hold it?

Yeah, why did you hold it? Please don't get your fingerprints on it, though. It's very important that you don't do. What are you doing? Yeah. There are a tremendous amount of people, I think, that just hang out in the lobby of the Emmys waiting for someone to walk by so they can get a picture with an Emmy. But I've also seen them doing it with like multiple different people's Emmys in a way

that I don't I don't quite know what you're getting out of that experience who is this riff rough how are they getting into the lobby even do uh seat fillers maybe I don't know oh yeah that's a job at the Emmys it's a job at the Emmys it's a job at the Emmys it's weird it's weird they that's oh my god that's a show I know a war show seat fillers like they're they're the same energy as extras where they're like they're just eager to like get whatever little bit of camera like they can. Yeah. They're weirdos. They're a little bit weird. They're the kind of people who are like, yes, of course, I can give up my entire Sunday. I will get. Yeah. I will, I will park somewhere near the peacock theater and I will rent a tuxedo for it or a ball gown and I will be there

the entire day for, I'm assuming very little money and the chance to sit and may be on camera and be close to the action. And also, as I think is a lot of the case for a bunch of people, I will go there with the intention of grabbing someone's arm and getting an escort to the next fancy party with free food and free drinks and stuff. I think there's a lot of people who like pilot fish. Yeah, they just grab onto the shirts and ride on in. I guess I didn't even think about that. But yeah, that's what I wanted to do. When I went to the Emmys, it had very little to do with the actual ceremony. I wanted to go to the HBO party. Sure. That makes perfect sense. I get that. I do like them. Well, I have a question. With the sea fillers, I don't know if you could see this or not.

Do they have a, is there some sort of coordinator who's like as soon as a commercial, like, as soon as you see somebody get up, is there somebody who's like, you, blue dress, go there or is it musical chairs for them? Do they just sit like a starting line and whoever gets their first wins? It's musical chairs. they are just walking up and down the aisle looking around at everything and and trying to hedge their bets and then a coordinator will say something like 30 seconds back 15 seconds back and they must have some kind of cue where it's like if they're if you're in such and such a spot when there's seven seconds left then you can claim that seat kind of thing so they're all milling in roughly the same area and moving a little bit because my guess is

that their instructions are don't park outside of a chair keep moving and if you happen to be near it when we're about to come back from commercial sit down yeah if not tough luck you you don't get to sit this this time but they really do like descend on open chairs and then uh wait for their five or seven second cue sit down and otherwise just like because remember everyone's dressed in formal wear so when And it's like five seconds back and they don't get a chair. They still have their really uncomfortable fancy shoes that they need to like now scuttle up the aisle. Yeah. I mean that I want to make this show now. I want to do a show. And like the you've got a nemesis.

You'd have another seat warmer who is like you that your adversary who's constantly getting it. But like you the first episode you've got you know that Jason Isaacs is the one who gets up a lot because he's got a little bladder or whatever. Like you just clocked that information and you're like, I'm going to camp out near Jason Isaac. like you're just waiting for him and then you can just have celebrities on whatever you have oh wait I'm making extras you aren't making the show extras that's okay it's enough time has passed

and yeah we're two for yeah yeah he's done yeah okay yeah he's picked at the bones of that that enough I can go back I can return to the kill I think that this would be a great show I'm going to make this

great Goodbye American Dad Well, that's exciting, Dan I'm glad that you I'm glad you came out It was Russia really nice to see you It was nice to see your wife Yeah, you took us both to a nice

A really fancy dinner In Los Angeles And it was cool to just be Out and having dinner with our friends We don't We don't really do It's great We don't do it either

by the way we because with children we just don't do that and when you bring your kids to dinner it's not the same it's a different thing they'll find they'll find a way to ruin it for you um and like and you don't have other humans by any means we have local friends like i know that that you do as well but it just never occurs to us to to call anyone up to have dinner with us yeah because we don't even go out to eat the two of us that often and so if we have a night where we're going to spend money on a nice dinner is it'll be you know our anniversary or nothing those that's that's the option it'll be like the month anniversary kind of thing certainly we would never think like let's have a meal with another couple but we did with you guys and it was delightful yeah and then

afterwards we got we were going to take you guys back to your we got in the car and within 30 seconds of being in the car she said i can tell that soren is a good driver and i was like i am a good driver that felt great she thank you for seeing me she she you're a very good driver and she clocked it immediately you're a good driver in terms of safety and also in terms of um making bold decisions yeah and uh and sticking to them you're not a timid driver no and not sometimes those things are are counterintuitive but no i think thank you dan thank you so much what an opportunity to hear that from both of you yeah well she was when she mentioned it she's like it's so you can really tell the different

you can feel the difference from a bad driver and a good driver and it's nice to get a good driver and we've had we had a bunch of ubers that we had to take while we were in L.A. That were kind of shaky. And I had to, for the sake of my own well-being, I had to convince myself that when she's talking about good drivers versus bad drivers, she's talking about the ones that we had in L.A. versus you. She is not talking about anyone else who might have been driving her around the last couple of years.

No, you're a good driver. We used to go to do a fight club together, and you were a great driver. You would drive every single time. I don't remember why that was the case. Oh, I was biking to work. Was that it? That time. Yeah, I think it must have been biking there, I think.

That is interesting. You always drove. I did. Sorry, man. That's okay. I like driving, and I'm very good at it. I'm just very safe. Okay, well, anyway, it was wonderful to have you guys out here.

I'm really glad that you came out. I wish I could have seen you more. But there will be other opportunities for that. And I'm so happy that you won an Emmy because, man, you guys deserve it. Thanks. It's lots of fun. I like working with all the people that I work with except two of them. And Emmys don't mean everything.

And it wouldn't change the work that we did. It wouldn't change how I felt about the work that we did or do. and it wouldn't change my self-esteem or self-image. My wife wouldn't like me more or less if I'd water lost. Doesn't matter. It's way more fun to win than not win. I'm so I'm glad. How would you possibly know that?

How could you possibly know? I've played sports before, too. Yeah, that's true. We also would losing. We went to some award ceremonies for Cracked. We went to some of the Internet Awards, streamies and webbies and whatnot, and we didn't always win those.

And I'm right, it was not fun. It wasn't fun, no. But I'll say the ceremony in general, I never find fun of any of these things. The ceremony is not the bread and butter of the award show. It's always like, now let's go somewhere where we all eat tacos and I get to meet people from succession.

That's where it's when it gets. fun and you you don't get that every award show it turns out no there's one in particular in fact today probably none probably don't get that anywhere although I would have also liked to meet all the cast of White Lotus that would have been nice Jason Isaacs yeah he was at my I was out of the home the same hotel and that guy is a gym rat I don't surprise me prepping for something or if he's just a just a healthy guy in general but But anytime you see him, he's on his way to the gym or is in the gym or he's on his way back to the gym.

Really? Yeah. Yeah, that's great. I've loved him. There was a show called The OA that was on Netflix and I think probably YA. Like, it was not, I was not the demographic, but I just was enamored with the show. And he's wonderful in it. He's so good.

He's someone that the perfect casting, the perfect timing, and the work he did as, uh bad guy in the patriot that's just that buys him a lifetime of fondness from me just a guy who was like you are i've never seen him before that movie and then there he is with his fucking ponytail and his evil snake eyes yes sniveling face and he's so perfectly bad and he dies and he dies and he dies and it's so satisfying does all that bad stuff and then he dies like this guy was put on this earth to play this role. Yeah. And then like two years later,

that he was cast as Captain Hook, and I was like, oh my God, they know exactly what to do with him. He is, yeah, he's a perennial bad guy. Yeah, and even in White Lotus,

he's a bad guy. There's a really funny thing that happens in White Lotus today. Didn't it? Like, I looked back on it, and I was like, wait a second. Why was that even in there? There's a scene where he's,

he's sweating because he's made a deal that is going to land him in jail as soon as he gets back from this vacation, basically. And he doesn't want to tell his family. It's all blowing up, and no one is privy to this information. And so he's sweating a lot, and he's disinterested in everything. But there's a scene where he comes out in the morning, and he's wearing a robe.

And he's just sitting at the counter of the kitchen, and his dick falls out. And everyone's like, Dad, put your dick away. What the fuck, Mike White? Why was that doing in there? Why did you do that? Also, you had to use a prosthetic because, because as we know

from our our time on sets you don't shoot candles clocks or cocks like that that's continuity is impossible to keep they're never going to look the same in every single shot

and so they have to use a they had to get him a prosthetic dick they had to put it on for a scene that is not load bearing by any means there's no reason to have that in the show that I can remember or think of

do you know any of the the weird behind the scenes like this this dominated the press tour of white lotus this the the jason isaac dick you don't know any of this in no it's really strange or it might not be that strange by the time we get to the end of it but but um someone asked jason isaac in an interview was that your dick or was that a prosthetic and he didn't handle it well he was very upset and he was like you were obsessed with this you were obsessed with why do you want to know so badly

did you see my dick this is and he was like comparing it too like you would never ask you you would never ask a woman this question and interviewers are like I mean am I maybe not but like interviewers ask women about their bodies all the time always in movies with that like a dick is not shown it's

they've asked every single Marvel character are you wearing underwear under that costume Every single female Marvel character. That's what I mean. Yeah, sorry, every single female Marvel character. So he tried to make it, you would never do this. The woman, this is like a terrible thing to do to a man, and he got a lot of shit for it.

And it followed him to other interviews, where he would get a little bit hostile when the subject of prosthetic or no prosthetic came up. And he was often the one bringing it up in the first place. and he was also never answering anyone whether or not it was a prosthetic. He just wanted to like fight about it and get people on their heels for asking.

You could see like after the episode came out, there wasn't a secret or anything. Other cast members volunteered that it was prosthetic under no provocation. They were like, yeah, it was a prosthetic, by the way, but it was still a weird scene to shoot. and Mike White like there clearly wasn't a cone of silence about this

Mike White was just like it's a prosthetic I don't know I think he thinks you I think he wants you to think that it's not I don't know why he's being so weird about this but it was just such a strange thing where it was like

openly a prosthetic and Jason Isaacs was the one who was going out saying like I'm not going to say whether or not it is I guess Mike White throwing him under the bus a little bit just be like yeah maybe he wants you to think that's his dick i don't know his big dick yeah uh it's that doesn't feel great for him but i i i guess i kind of understand the kernel of what he's trying to say which is why does it matter like why do you

why do you why do you want to know and also like why do you know what to know in public right whether that's actually my dick i understand helpful to you i certainly understand i'm not wanting to talk about it either just be like there's i did a lot of stuff i didn't a North Carolina accent and I was like, I was acting high off Larazepam and I had these suicidal and homicidal fantasies. I did a whole lot of, I did some real acting in this. Right. And I don't want to answer. I was acting my dick off out there. Right. And I could understand him not wanting to like seed attention to a prosthetic dong. I can understand that. But I think he overcorrected a little bit. Yeah. Well, so I wonder if Theo,

James got all the same stuff. Because I'll say that in the second season of White Lotus, Theo, do you see Theo James' dick? But it's, but it's, like, crucial to the plot. Yeah. It's important that you see his penis. And I wonder if that also dominated his as well. Or, like, that was, like, some of the questions that he had to field.

I assume it probably was, because he also has to have a really big dick in it. Yeah. And people, that biological imperative will never fail. Like, no one's defeating biological imperative. It's, as soon as somebody sees that, they're like. like is that really what you're working with is that it is that what you're dealing with I don't know I'd have to go back to see if those press see that press tour to see I don't think it make quite as big of a splash and I'm not sure

they didn't defend it yeah I'm sure that the questions were like was that your hey man sweet dick hey nice buddy yeah what else we got what else we got me with anything um yeah I because like I like Jason Siegel shows his dick in forgetting Sarah Marshall and then that becomes like that became like dominant that was I feel like by design there there are some movies where it does seem like that's that's not the selling point for forgetting Sarah Marshall but like that the it's based on a true story of him getting broken up with by his ex while he was naked and he was committed to being fully naked for the movie those facts were like inescapable in the run-up to this movie and

i wasn't even a person who was like consuming a lot of interviews and news about movies it was just like the entire lead into that movie was this this was you might as well call it the jason seagull penis movie because it was just yeah he was everyone he was loud about it and like this is this is this is one of the things that makes them you know i again you should go people aren't going because they're like oh i just can't wait to see the guy from how i met your mother's dick but it is one of the things that they're they're like this is every movie's going to have got a it's a big r-rated comedy we're trying to get a moment that people talk about this is this is it there's not a of full frontal male nudity in in comedies so this is the one that's given it to you and uh go yeah

take what you can get please look at it um yeah i'm trying to think of like that happens it must happen on the women's side i know it does be the majority of the people who are cast in women's side this is an indictment of the industry are inherently gorgeous and have like uh off the rack bodies like they are built like mannequins right so they and so everybody there's like a real interest, I think Broadstroke's interest in seeing them naked. Ava Mendez is a movie naked. I was like, great, I'll say that. Yeah.

I'm trying to think if there's like some sort of equivalent. I guess there was a movie where Sarah Silverman was going to be naked in it. And everyone was like, there was a buzz about that because she was not supposed to be naked. Like people are like, no, that's not the type of person I usually see naked. Right. And maybe that's part of the interest.

So we expand on that. I think for the same reasons as like Jason, Is it, Isaacs, what's his last, where's his name? Siegel? No, what's, uh, what's, uh, uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, uh, yeah, Jason Isaacs. Like, for some reason I was thinking, when I, we got on Jason Siegel, I was like, no, Jason Isaacs has a different first name. Um, with him, he's not somebody who you'd inherently think, I get to see that person's dick.

So as soon as you do, you're like, whoa, that's, that person is somehow more naked, if that makes sense. They're like more naked than a, than another normal naked star. Yeah. Did I do it? Did I throw the needle? I was trying to understand your distinction between a woman that you're supposed to see naked in film and a woman that you're not supposed to see naked. Yeah.

What that line is, exactly. I think it's comedy. I'm sorry, it's not. It's going to be, it's body type. Oh, oh, no. Yeah, I looked at it. I don't, yeah. I'm just living in this world, man, and noticing things. Okay.

Like, in girls, you see, you see nudity in that, and it's nudity you should be seen. Harriet the Spy is naked in that. What's her name? Michelle Tractonberg? Oh, my God, did you really just do it? I don't think the late Michelle Tractonberg is, is naked on girls. Oh, no, it's not Harriet the Spy. What's the little, what's the girl's name from Uncle Buck?

her name is Gabby Hoffman Gabby Hoffman is somebody who's you weren't supposed to see naked and then you do in that movie I mean in the show and like

and it's way more surprising it's always like and then I obviously have held on to it like it's just stuck in my memory because you weren't supposed to see that and so it's yes it's it's somebody who is more naked somehow because that body was never

supposed to be seen naked on television And I'm not doing a great job at this. No, I'm not co-signing it. I'm trying to think if there's any way I can help. Yeah, thanks, man. I'm really trying. You know how.

Let me just hold on. My shovel's not broken yet. Let me dig a little deeper. You know how when you, if you were. to you know you're getting in if you're watching cinemax or hb a lady night as a child you know what you're getting you know why you're there and you know what to expect so there's expectation already but if you're watching tv if you go to the movies with your parents or you're watching tv in the middle of the night with your parents middle the day sorry with your

parents and it's like tnts on and all of a sudden like you catch a glimpse of a breast or something it was not the circumstances of which you were supposed to be seeing nudity. And that always has a very visceral reaction from anybody. It's always like, whoa. I wasn't supposed to see that. Yeah, okay. I can co-sign that. Okay.

Being surprised and thinking, and there will be some people that you think there was a chance that that person's nudity will intersect with my life at some point. and you hope that happens. And there's other people where you don't. And then when, when it happens, it's... Yeah, it's like, whoa. Like, Chris Hemsworth.

I know I'm going to see Chris Hemsworth naked. I knew it from his first movie. And then it took a while, but I got there. Love and Thunder. I was like, yeah, there we go. That's what I was waiting for. So we've all been working towards. All right.

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