Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - Subway Sandwich Takes | Ep. 310

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

Daniel struggles to stop fidgeting with studio equipment and recalls a disastrous coin-based incident on another podcast. Then, the guys analyze the decline of video quality in the Zoom era and the baffling visual language of TikTok mic-holding. Later, Soren unveils his new workspace, sparking a heated debate about whether garages are actually for cars or just "stuff." Daniel shares his home inspector’s unsettling advice about ventilation, and Soren worries his new glass door will turn his driveway into a neighborhood spectacle. Plus: boxcar cigarettes, the evolution of acceptable language, and why teenage boys are more disappointing than dangerous.Thanks to RocketMoney for sponsoring this episode. RocketMoney.com/qq. Reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money.Follow the guys on Bluesky!https://bsky.app/profile/danielobrien.bsky.socialhttps://bsky.app/profile/sorenbowie.bsky.socialBonus episodes 2x/month at patreon.com/quickquestion OR Apple Podcasts

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I'm just glad that we could talk tonight. So what's your favorite? Who did you get? When would I be? Remember? What's it out? Where did all? What do we know?

Oh, forget it. I saw a movie Daniel O'Brien. Two best friends and comedy writers. If there's an answer, they're going to find it. I think you'll have a great time here. I think you'll have a great time here. Welcome back to the podcast. It's quick question with Soren and Daniel.

I am one of your hosts, Daniel O'Brien, joined us always by Soren Bowie. Soren say hello. touring you can see my hands and where they are yeah yeah you're doing some things with them you're making choices I'm gonna try all of these are choices all these are choices I'm gonna there's not right ones no and I meant to get ahead of this um listeners long time listeners and viewers of the podcast know that I have a real hard time not playing with whatever's in front of me while I'm doing the podcast yeah and so I meant to clear this space before we

recorded but I forgot to and there's man there's scissors I don't feel great scissors are going to be really fun to play with and they make noise but so on because here's the thing I've got I'm holding up a little plastic dude dad oh I love that that's from a mic stand

I'm also holding a quarter and the quarter almost perfectly fits inside the whole of the mic stand holder and I hate to take our listeners and send them to other podcast away from ours.

I was a guest on the most recent episode of Even More News with Cody, Jonathan, and Katie Stoll. And I was off-camera fiddling with the corridor and this little black dood. And if you watch the podcast at 46 minutes, the corridor, which had been successfully jammed into the doodat and lay dormant for a while. it springs into frame. The core just shoots up out of nowhere. The pressure was too much.

And we're in the middle of recording a podcast talking about the news. And then a coin flips into the sky. And you can, we, I mean, the podcast stops down to address it. But it's, uh, it was a wake up call that like I can't play with things. I can't play with all these things. It doesn't make for good podcasting. It is. It's stuff that ordinarily in my life, I would be so.

I would show no interest in. But the minute we're doing a podcast, I'm like, oh, this pen has two caps on it. What if I mixed, closed my eyes and mixed them up and then guessed which side was the writing side? I do genuinely, I'm starting to worry that we are contributing to an overall worsening of entertainment content that goes into the world.

because like since when COVID happened a lot of the news just started doing way more Zoom interviews than they ever did before, which was understandable in COVID. And no one was going out and doing things and going on to the scene and like, you know, you're not going to bring a news crew to an expert's house and talk to them in their house or like fly them out to the studio. But now the president decided COVID's over and we're still doing a lot of Zoom things. and I watch the news sometimes and it's just like some guy on a webcam with a crummy background and I'm like, the news looks worse than it used to look.

And a tangential thought is I'm ticking around on YouTube and there's so much nonsense on you, like there's so many video podcasts where someone is like on headphones or on earbuds and there's no thought to the background and they're like clearly doing the podcast while they're on their phone

or doing things on the computer. And I think, this is bad, too. And I'm part of it, Soren. We are part of the thing. We're putting videos out in the world. And in the middle of the video, we're playing with stuff. Well, right now we're describing things in our room. Yeah.

And the most boring things we can think of in our room. That's right. So I can see why you would be of the position that maybe we are not contributing anything to society. And maybe, maybe hurting it. Yeah. I agree with you. Well, let me say, first of all, like, things that I agree with, and then I'll tell you something that I think would actually make you feel a little bit better.

One is that what I would consider, like, good content generally takes preparation. And we don't do that. And so is what we're doing even useful? Because there can be things that don't have any preparation to them and that are really interesting and fun. But, man, to do that every single week, that's a tall. order um i'm starting to there's also a chance that i'm just getting older and and everything i'm saying is just things are different because like if audiences don't mind one of the things that i'm i i think about a lot is the specific um visual vocabulary of a lot of ticot explainer videos

where it's someone who has a lapel mic but they're very pointedly holding it in their hand instead of wearing it. They're speaking into it. The audio quality is not great. There's obviously a green screen behind the person who's filming it, but like the keying out is not perfect. It's a person who's talking into a lapel mic and they're floating in space and they're pointing up to suggest the image that's behind them.

And they're also like their floating head is like moving around in the frame depending on what they, what image that is superimposed on the background behind you, they, they want the viewer to see. But it doesn't, I mean, with ghost trails of their head, as they move their head, like ghost trails of their room following them before, like it auto fills in with the market, whatever they've got, Kyron before it behind them. I find it to be one of the most disorienting, uh, presentations of information in the history of mankind. it's all over TikTok and no one seems to mind it like our friend and TikTok darling Jason Pargin when he first started creating things on TikTok wasn't doing videos like that but it's clear that that's what the audience wants they respond to that better than they do like a disembodied voice or text on screen it's it's the preferred method of content

distribution in the eyes and minds of the youth, and I find it unpalatable, and that's a me thing. Well, so I think what it is, it's like a little bit, just an extra step of holding the reader or the audience's hand, where they're not just going to show you something and then you decide how you feel about it. You get to watch, and a lot of times this is, you're literally just watching somebody watching the same thing you're watching, but you get to watch their reaction along with it. Like, people will put up their own content, and they don't say a single word in it. They're like, hey, here's a video with some kids getting kicked out of a pool in Miami or whatever. And, like, they're just watching along and they're like making startled faces, shaking their heads. Occasionally, they'll do like a little bookend at the end where they're like, that was crazy. If you've seen things like this, give me a like, or like whatever it is.

But a lot of times they're not saying shit. It's just somebody else watching it. And I think it's so you can be like, that's a human, be like, oh, I'm supposed to raise my eyebrows for that part. Oh. Oh, I'm supposed to, I don't like this. I'm shaking my head just like this person. So, yeah, I agree with you that that's bad. Now, I'm going to say that as far as like clearly an audio medium, auditory, auditory medium, I used to do a zoo hour radio show.

I would call into it every single week when I worked to crack. And that was an institution. It was in Kansas City. It's called the Church of Laslo. I used to call them the show all the time. It started out with, like, they just asked for somebody because they wanted to go over an article that we had written. And then after that, like, I just kept calling once a week and I would hang out and, like, talk to them. We were, like, getting each other gifts and things.

Yeah. I was having a lot of fun. It is the same type of, it's exactly what you're picturing. If you don't live in Kansas City and you're like, I don't know what that is. No, you do because you've lived anywhere. You've had Kevin and Bean. You've had any, like, zoo hour radio show. You know what this show is.

those shows are so fly by the seed of your pants and those have been around way longer than podcasting where I'm like, oh, that's, what we're doing is maybe like a step up, like a step more professional than those. There was a time when I called into that show and they were eating lunch as I was talking to them. And I was like, finally I was like,

is this even a real radio show? Because it's just like long gaps of them munching into a microphone, which is one of the most unpleasant sounds in the world. And I was like, is this even a real show? And they were laughing because they were like, we don't know. Occasionally it doesn't feel like it. Occasionally we just have like one of us will go out for a smoke break or whatever.

And the other person is just sort of covering, but they're not panicked. They're just like, it's like being in a friend's house where the mutual friend between two people has left the room. And now you're just like, oh, so where you live close? That kind of shit. So I say that we're doing a far better job than that. Does that make you feel better? I got lots of apps on my phone. Everybody knows this about me.

There's apps for gambling, apps for food. That's right. Apps for craps and apps for apps. Some of these apps, these frankly too many apps, some of these food apps I won't name, have been charging me money in the background, and I had no idea. Monthly subscriptions that I've been paying for months,

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Like, I'll see a video and I'll say, this is what everyone is seeing because I'm seeing it right now. And I think it's bad. And no one else does. So that means everyone thinks a bad thing is a good thing. and I got to tell the newspaper about it. I got to get on my microphone and warn everybody about this problem that I just invented based on a very limited data set. It's hard not to treat everything like a heat check, like a cultural heat check.

Like this is, is this indicative? Is this what we're all doing right now? And I'm being worried about it. You see it to come up twice. Yeah. I'm with you. I don't know. We're not providing something that is going to win some awards.

but we're doing something that a number of people seem to enjoy. Yeah. Like, I don't know how I can say that I think our podcast is good, which I do. And in the same breath, say that I think it's bad for culture. Yeah. That subway takes has the clout and reach that it has. Are you familiar with subway takes, Soren? No, what is this?

It's a series of videos that I, because this is the future, I don't know where anything is for anymore. I don't know where it originates. Like, I don't know what platform it belongs to. But it spreads everywhere. It becomes, I see it on Instagram. Some people see it on TikTok. There's a host with sunglasses.

And at all times, he looks like he couldn't be fucked. He just couldn't be bothered. He's not interested in anything. He's displayed out in a subway car. He has got, he's either got a lapel mic that is like, stuck to a New York subway metro card or he's got a microphone built into the metro card or the card is just a prop we don't know but he'll be sitting next to like a like a real famous person like Zoran Mamdani or Bruce Springsteen and he'll be like what's your take and he hands the subway card to the person and the person will have a take that is like I think ketchup is barbecue sauce and he'll be like 100% disagree and then they like argue over whether or not ketchup is barbecue sauce

and people will love it and that's the whole show it's a take and then the person has a take and we don't get any kind of real parameters on what constitutes a take

I guess I'm deciding if I'm disappointed that this wasn't taking place in a subway restaurant which is what I originally thought you were described that subway had done so sorry done something cool you're in front of one of those

big old-timey maps that they've chosen to litter their walls with or used to I guess they don't anymore. They've really moved on from that. It's from like the early 90s. But like I would love to do a subway version of that, a subway sandwich version of that. Subway sandwich takes? I think

that's 100%. I mean someone get 2012 on the phone. Let's get cracked in the room. Let's pitch at the subway man. Let's pitch an ad campaign. Subway sand. I And honestly, it could be entirely about sandwiches. And I would be like, it could be loosely, loose meat, loose meat about sandwiches.

Sure. And I think you could do make something incredible. I think you could make something really good that really drove people to Subway. Yeah. Okay. I need to address something that we haven't talked about yet. I, again, completely alienating to the people who are not listening to, or that are only listening to this podcast. I'm in a different space again.

For a while, you're right. This is also, none of this is very accessible to the people who aren't listening to the show. That's, we, we never think about the people who don't listen. What I would like is a show that you can just mute and just watch two boys be friends. Or not even watch it, but still somehow like get it. Not watch or listen, but still like be able to say that you did. I think that's a huge part of our fan base, by the way. I think there are a lot of people from the crack days.

who are like, I just want to know that they're okay. I don't care to follow whatever they're doing now. They both look old and it makes me sad. But I just, I want to know that they're fine. Sorri is practically quoting real comments that we've seen people who are so unhappy that we've aged. That we've gotten older. Okay. So I'm in a new space.

I was previously doing this podcast and it was essentially a hallway, it's an hallway outside my children's room. and now I've moved back into my garage. I no longer look like I'm in the pantry of the shining. Yes. It's not much better yet because we haven't put in any new stuff. But the garage is ostensibly finished. And it's so nice in here.

So light. So wonderful. It is very light and wonderful. And I'm very excited for you to have your garage. But this is my wife and I have been talking about the subject of garages a lot. We have a detached garage in our garage. in our backyard that you might as well call a shed for the purpose that it serves. It also feels very shed-like because there's no road from our driveway to the thing.

It's just a garage because it's like technically a garage. It's very large concrete floor, blah, blah, blah, it's a garage. But we would never park our car in it because, again, there's no road to it. It's not paved to it. And it doesn't have a garage door that you can. open with a button doesn't have a like we would need to put in a garage door essentially and also the whole the glory of having a garage in my mind is you can go to and from stores or work and never have to interact with the elements whatsoever we don't have that because there's no because the

garage is not connected to that to the house but a thing that we've found that we can I can't understand so many of our friends have attached garages and they don't use them as garages. Yeah. Almost none of our friends actually use their garages to house the cars. And we asked a friend about this. We were like, why don't you use your garage for your car? And they said, no, the garage is for stuff. Yeah.

And you agree with this. Uh-huh. But I'll go into it with you. The thought never crossed your mind to keep your car in your, are you, let's, let's start very simple. Yeah. Could you theoretically store your car in your garage? Yes, there's a road that leads to the garage. You can bring a car all the way in here and that would be fine.

Wow. We have never once done it. Okay, so you live in a, you live, I would say like on the fringes of a very, very big city. You're close enough to New York. Okay. Okay. See, a lot of in, all right. So New York is the city that you're talking about.

I'm talking about New York. Okay. There are people who live near you who could hypothetically work in New York. Yes, many do. Okay, I understand now. My wife included. And so. I suppose technically, me too.

And so. No. No one could. Oh, my wife. Also me. Hops and Wild? Wild and Hopps. The dream team. They're back in Disney's Zootropolis, too. Funny books.

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In cinema's November 28 Good luck! I love you! I've been thinking We need to talk to him about it. He might not listen to me But yeah, as good a time as any. Okay, I'll give it a go.

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that can potentially store all that stuff and all it means is that you're leaving your car outside. In Los Angeles it makes a ton of sense because there's no weather. There's no consequence to leaving your car outside. You're not going to get up in the morning and have to like wipe frost off your windshield in other locations.

But I think in general, when you live in a city or on the fringes of a city, you are already strapped for what you can actually afford in terms of a house and all of a sudden you get an extra room and it's a room that you don't have to clean

it's a room where you can just store things I think everyone's going to take that option did you you're it's so tough to try to find

common ground with you because your upbringing was so unique did you have a garage growing up in your cabin okay yes

did both of your parents have cars that went into the garage yeah it was a long narrow thing that ran underneath the house Yeah. And we both, we would park the cars in there every single day. Cool. Yeah.

We had a one-car garage growing up, and my mom's car would go in there, and then my dad's car would live on the driveway. Okay. And by the time I was leaving New Jersey, there were moments when five cars belonged to that house, and we were all scattered around the street and the driveway and the garage. but it seemed to me once I moved to Los Angeles obviously I was in apartments forever and in shared garages it always seemed like

you will have made it when you get a house with the garage and you can put your car in the garage and I thought everyone was an agreement that this was like that's fucking ice maker in the fridge level of making it buddy you got a car

you got a garage that fits two cars you've got to put two cars in there and I continue to be shocked by my friends and people in my life who just don't do it. They leave their cars vulnerable to the elements. Yeah, yeah.

Because what are you, like, what's actually the consequence of that? What's happening to your car out there that? Salt! They are, so insurance takes that into account. Like if you have a garage, insurance is, car insurance is super psyched to know that you have an enclosed store

area. Even if you're not using it, if you just have one associated with your house, your insurance drops. Did you not know that? No. Okay. They love to, wait, when you moved, did you talk to your car insurance company about where you were currently moving to? Yeah, I told them, I answered all the, all the questions. We're actually, we're trying to leave that auto insurance because, and I don't know if this is a crock of shit or not. but um GEICO which is the insurance company

I don't mind naming them because I'm not worried about alienating a sponsor that would never stoop so low extra average we we only get advertisements from from exclusively scams so I'm not worried about GEICO

but they our rates went up recently and I called GEICO and I was like hey our rates went up and I don't I don't want them to go up what do we do about that why did they go up and they said it was because there had been accidents reported in my neighborhood and first of all i don't think that's true and second of all it's got nothing to do with us it's not it's i wow they happened but not to us or as a result of us and it's not like huge if that's true i know if that's like a loophole that that insurance companies can exploit That seems like quite a coup for insurance companies.

Yeah, because it would mean that people are already hesitant to report to insurance because they don't want their own rates to go up. But if you would be responsible for the rates in your entire neighborhood going up, that's fucking crazy. Yeah. They shouldn't be allowed to do that. Okay. Well, anyway. Everybody write letters to Geico. Here's a big question for you, Dan.

In your current garage, wait, are you not parking a car? car in it? Are you parking a car in? I cannot park a car in my garage. That's right. That's right. It doesn't even have a road to it. Yeah. Does there, is there water leading to it? Uh, no. I think the previous owners set up water and electricity into the garage because they had converted it into a, um, like, carpentry workstation. But then at some point, they shut off electricity and water. So there's some like basic infrastructural stuff that is still there if we wanted to get it turned on again. but it's like a whole to do. Okay, so right now you have a garage that my guess would be is unpermitted because it's no longer functioning as a garage and can't possibly function as a garage. In order to do that, you have to get a permit because you're turning it into basically a livable space instead of a garage. And if you... No, I'm not.

It means that the person before you would have had to have done that, or they just did it unpermable. And people do this kind of shit unpermitted all the time. But a lot of times what they will do is that they have turned it into a livable space, then they've already set the water lines to it. And that's the hardest part. I mean, the worst part about changing anything from a, well, not the worst part, but like changing a garage to an ADU or a livable space is like getting your water lines to it, water and sewer to it. Because generally that involves tearing up concrete around the outside.

these garages usually have it like some concrete around them so you've got like chisel from the house to that garage and then in it if you've done all of that work that's beautiful that means that you could at some point and I think you will want this at some point you can have like basically an onsuit you have like this space where if you've got water to it you can create a bedroom a you vault the ceilings of it you put in a living roomish space you put in a bathroom and then you have a mother-in-law suite like you have a place where when you have a child somebody can come come stay with you for a long period of time and they're not in your shit like they have their own space um but i don't know you're it's a little late for that for you i think i don't know that this at least with this child i don't think you're going to be able to get all that done before then yeah i mean this kid's coming in like three and a half months or something like that um we so we were trying to decide with our garage what we were going to do we were like should we try and turn it into like a more livable a space that somebody could actually sleep in and stay in, like a kitchenette and stuff. And in talking to them, they're like, okay, well, first of all, you're, you've got to get a permit from the city because you're turning this into a livable space. Then you also, it sits up against an alley our garage and they're like, you have to have a certain distance from the alley. So you basically have to wipe out this wall and push it in. And I was like, these things are stupid.

The fact that this structure already exists means that it should be grandfathered into everything beyond this. Like, somebody allowed this at some point. Somebody allowed this to exist. Anything on my property, I should be able to do whatever I want with. Yeah. No questions asked, no permits needed.

We need permits to cut down buck and trees. In the front, right? Oh, in the back you need permits? Yeah. What? And it didn't use to be that way. And when we were having the house inspected, the inspector was like,

you're going to want to get rid of that tree probably because that's going to give you problems down the line. And like, do it now because starting in February, you need permits to get the trees cut down. So just like, cut down all the trees you want. It was really like, really made me, really activated something in me very quickly. It was like, well, I'd hate to want to do it later

and need a permit. So I guess I should just go crazy now. Yeah. Get the joy of it now. So on our streets, if you're going to plant a tree in, you know, the median between the sidewalk and the road in front of your house, that's generally like a grassy patch. If you want to plant a tree there, that's like a weird territorial issue where it's like you as the homeowner are responsible for what you put there. Green, you zero scape it or whatever. But also the city has to approve it because it's also kind of their property too.

So we were like trying to get a tree out there. All the other houses along our street have trees out in front. And for whatever reason, at some point, this one in front of our house got sick and died. So we were like, well, yeah, it would be fun to put a tree there and found out through the city that they've, they're zoned for what type of tree is allowed in any single block. And it changes. It varies by block to block. So they'll be like, oh, for this street, you are allowed this one very specific type of a rubber tree. Okay.

I don't know if that's true of you. But it is like, I was pissed. I was like, I don't want that one. I want this ginkobalova that I picked out It looks really beautiful in the fall I want that one And yeah I mean I don't We haven't thought about trees

But I do I want the freedom There was like to To like animal crossing style My house and it was like My house has a nautical theme Or we're like doing an island thing So I need palm trees

And that's it And I'm doing sandcaping It's just sand and palm trees please Yeah And they're going to allow that The city won't allow it No. No, they don't want that. Yeah. So you have to, and then, or you just defy them.

You have to be like, well, I'm not doing it your way. And you're so backed up. Your arborist is so backed up with whatever else is going on. Or she has got going on. And so I, we just went with our own tree. And now I just live in fear all the time where I'm like, at some point, they could just come and be like, this isn't the right tree for this particular block. You're going to have to pull it. yeah that's what i was going to ask do they find you or do they pull it they say you have to get

rid of this tree they can't just like because i know um like uh Zuckerberg owns so much fucking land in maui uh that uh and he he wants to he's he's grown like a bunch of very tall either trees or like put up walls and uh he has more money than god so even though he's not technically allowed to have the things that he has blocking views he just pays whatever that fine is every month and we'll do so

until the sun explodes as a result of his actions. So I didn't know if that was something that you could are they going to say you have to rip this out or you have to give us $50 extra dollars a month on top of your property taxes. No, because I don't think they can keep track of all of that. I honestly think that they're

so over their skis on like trying to deal with all this shit that They can't keep track of all of that They want you to pull it The same reason where If you made an ADU And you had plumbing to it But you didn't get it permitted

If somebody snitches on you And they come and do an assessment And they're like Oh, you've turned this into a livable space And it shouldn't be They will sit there and watch As a Mason comes And pours concrete down the sink

And the toilet To ensure that the sewer lines And the water lines Are completely blocked So you can't continue to use those Fuck Anyway, the long way of saying, like, we have a garage door on this space. We can't still use it as a garage.

The flooring would even withstand that. But part of it was a big decision for us was do we put something big and cool on the front of it and have glass doors? And we were like, no, it has to be garage doors or we have to get like a completely new permit for this whole space. But you've never, you never, you didn't even want to, to store a car there. there's there's so much you cannot you cannot shake that I don't put a car in a garage because it's not a single person here does it's not just you no I'm saying that's it's not just you

and I'm trying to get answers and I'm making you spokesman for everybody despite the fact that I've talked to people and they've said no we just don't want to I don't accept that answer I need a better answer now that you've moved into a house that is yours surely you have that those dreams where you're like, oh, there's this other entire room in my house and I haven't

even thought about what to do with it yet. And those are the best dreams I have. The possibility that your house is bigger than you thought it was is like the best thing that could happen. And so it's a no-brainer. It's not another room in the house and I don't know what to do with it. It's the car's home. It's the space that's for the garage. For the car. For the garage. And they should call them those. It's the carriage house. You, okay, right now you're using it as public storage essentially that you don't pay for, right? It's like you have a storage unit.

Yeah. That's nice. You've got a storage unit that is shielded from the elements, which in itself is like a huge win because there's so much junk that you accumulate that is, oh, you're going to have strollers, you're going to have buggies, you know, those little thing, those little cars that you roll the kids around it. You're going to have, you're going to have a certain point. You're going to have trikes. Like, there's so big, clunky items that you're not going to want in your house and that they need another place to live. Had these things in my house growing up and we also had our car in a garage. Determined families can make it work.

I don't understand. But you don't have to. I'm telling you, you don't have to, you have the luxury of not being a determined family now. You don't need to keep a car in there And by the way, it doesn't It's not going to take much for you to turn that into a space Where you're like Well, this could just be my office

Yeah This is where I could work And I completely wait from everybody else You could do your podcast You can be as loud as you want You can talk about drugs You can do anything Not even do drugs, but I can go in

in a private room Talk about drugs Which I am not allowed in the house I'm not allowed to talk about them So I mean I don't see why that's not appealing to you To have a room to talk about drugs As loud as you want

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Good luck! I love you! I've been thinking we need to talk to him about. He might not listen to me. But yeah, as good a time as any. Okay, I'll give it a go. If he ever takes those earphones out. Vaping is harmful to your child's health.

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was something that he had done a lot of before and like the garage was was a big one for him it was like this could be like like drug den and we're like oh ha ha ha ha ha it's like no I'm serious I've done it for people and we're just like we were just laughing politely sir we don't it's it's um we're not asking you to do that first of all second of all it's like Like, it's 2025. The kind of drugs that suburbanites do don't require, like, dens and ventilation. It's all, it's all, like, computer and phone drugs now. My next question for that guy would be, point to the houses.

Show me the ones you did. How far are they away from my house? Drug dens. Yeah. Jesus Christ. What kind of drugs would be doing? Like a very 70s idea, I think. It was like he's, like, you could put it.

fan in here to get the weed smoke away so, like, your parents won't find out. And we're like, sir, we are the parents. We are the- Also, everybody eats their drugs now, sir. Yeah. Not a single person is smoking. Watch a movie. Yeah, I think that this space, we have a glass garage door. I'll just quickly for anyone who wants to see, there's a glass garage door over there.

We considered getting a garage door that was tinted, so you couldn't really see from the outside. People can see in. It's not like a, like. Hypothetically, they could, but only from our house because that area in front of the garage door, there's a gate too. So you can't actually see the garage door from the street. So you'd have to really do some snooping in order to see in there.

But one of our considerations, when we were like thinking about getting it tinted or not, we were like, we have a 10-year-old. Within like a heartbeat, he's going to be 14. and I don't want this to be the makeout spot. I don't want, like, there's going to be a TV and a living room and stuff like that in here. Kids got to make out somewhere. Yeah, I guess that's true.

But they should go to parks like I had to. They should be cold and miserable as they do it. They should go to Lisa's basement. Crammed into a twirly slide together that we're like at any moment when you could just slip all the way down. I just don't know I wanted to be able to see I wanted to be able to be like

Sure Hey I do It does make sense to me Not that you're not trying to keep your kids from From making out I understand that like you don't want to be the house Like

It opens you up for the other parents To be like Why do you have My kids always want to come to your house That has this like hidden fortress that no one can see into. Right. We don't care for that.

I understand that, that thought process. I don't, yeah, I want to know what they're doing. Yeah. I want to know what they're doing out here. Although with him, it's not going to ever matter. He is the sweetest rule follower there has ever been. But for my daughter, I don't know. Damn.

She is defiant to the last. Like, if you give her a rule, she's like, oh, okay, well, we'll see about that. Let's see if the rule is, let's see if it functions. Let's see what happens. Let's, yeah, bend it, break it. Let's see. We were similar rule followers. We had a friend of ours had a shed in his backyard, and his parents parked their cars in the garage.

We liked that he had a big shed that was big enough for all of, like, us buddies to, to hang out in, and we would do in middle school, maybe even up to like freshman year of high school, that we would all go in there and chill. And his dad, his name is Ted, very suddenly opened it up to check on us one day, ready for it to be like bad news. And it wasn't.

And I don't even, I think he skipped right over relief into like kind of disappointment. Because it was like, I'm sure he came home from work and his wife was like, the kids are in the shed. He's like all those 14 year old boys are in this, what are they doing in the shit? They smoke. Is it going to be smoking? Am I going to be, am I going to find a girl

in there? Am I not going to find a girl in there? And they opens it and it's just a bunch of guys like, earnestly talking about how like in high school we will have girlfriends and things will be different for us. And he's like ah, they're not even like not even a cigarette. Fuck. It's just kind of

like sad a little. Gotta get my kids some better friends. This is times running. out. This is rough. Oh, you think you're going to have a girl in high school? It's not happening. You're going to find them in the shed? Is that what's going to happen? With this crew, you're not getting girls. It's not going to happen. To give you a peek at how Grary in my childhood was, my first cigarette was in a box car. We found cigarettes in a... What year are you from? We found cigarettes in a parking lot because cars existed. And we were, we were. We're like, well, where are we going to smoke it? And we're like, I got the perfect place.

Where we would go find our salamanders over by the river. There were train tracks where the cult cars would run. And there had since been, since like the mine had been shut down, there were still cars left there. And they're like these giant box cars you'd see in the hobo movie. Sure. So we've climbed in there and just smoked our first cigarettes in a box car. Maybe we'll do it for the Patreon. a ranking of our favorite hobo movies.

Oh, yeah, we should. Am I, by the way, I apologize for using that word. I don't know yet if that's one that's, uh, Hobo? That's, yeah, we shouldn't be using. I think it's fine. It does seem derogatory, right? Sure.

But I mean, I, I, I, we don't need to get into language on this podcast. I think. I've drawn a line in the sand over whether or not I'm going to say, I'm going to self-correct, homeless to unhoused. Okay. And I have, years ago have talked myself into, I'm going to keep saying homeless. And I had like receipts and reasons for why I was correct in not self-adjusting to unhoused. And I was correct in rolling my eyes when people did.

And, uh, I still think I'm right. But I also was like, that's a silly thing to care about. So I care about it less now. That's what my first reaction to when I had used. I said that I got jipped. And somebody Rick was corrected me and they're like, that's, don't say jipped. It's from the word gypsy. It's like there's gypsy is one we don't use.

And I was like, no, I'm going to keep saying it. But only because that's my natural instinct is like, I'm not wrong. I'm a good guy. I'm one of the good guys, so I will get that right. Whatever I'm doing right now is absolutely right without any thought of changing that it slowly over time, it wears me down. I'm like, oh, you know what, I probably fucking, I probably shouldn't be doing that anymore. Which I hope would be you have a lot of guys who have made entire careers right now out of being like, we're not doing that thing that you want us to do to be more considerate to others.

But I would hope that they're following the similar trajectory where like the first instinct is to dig your heels in and then slowly. lowly, you're like quietly change. No, because that's what they are. That's what such a bummer about this case, because in this case, I am right. And you're not going to change. But it's just, but like being right about this puts me in a category of, with a, that I would share with a bunch of other horrible men who are wrong about their things. And I, I would like to create some distance between me and these wrong men who still want to say the R word. and rather the easiest way for me to create that distance

is if I just stop clinging so desperately to my rightness about homeless versus unhoused. Yeah. About a thing that easy change for you to make because all these changes are easy. Yeah. Well, but they're not at first. At first they seem like such an inconvenience.

I know. Then, yeah, slowly my mind changes. And by the way, there should be room for people to do that. Like, I don't want to get too into it on this podcast, but like somebody who like James Gunn once every five years gets called on upon

again because they're like in 2012 he had some like he said something that was not nice and it was like it was something I can't remember what it is now. If it was um god damn I don't even remember. I don't think it was racist

but I think it was sexist or something like that. I don't remember what it is exactly but I do remember it being like like shocking and I'm saying this with a smile on my face even though I'm sure it's caused some amount of harm to to people but it's like you you when you hear things like a bunch of trolls and bad actors have resurfaced some of James Gunn's old tweets you have like a couple of things in your head that you think it might be when it's like oh it's from 2008 or 2012 and you think of like how did people on the internet talk back then sure I think I know

what roughly it's going to be. And then you see what it is and it's like, whoa. Oh, no, it's worse. It's way worse. Anyway, he is, whatever it was, he has since like come out several times, each time that it makes the rounds again where he's like, I deeply regret this.

Like I, and not just because I got caught or whatever. Like, I don't feel this way anymore. And the people who have tried to make amends for the things that they've done in the past, Bo Burnham, too. Bo Burnham does the same thing.

thing where he's like, I was trying to be shocking and I was young and I didn't know any better. I didn't know that those words had power for a specific meaning. I just knew that those words had power. So I was using them. And so, oh, you play with something. Play with something over there.

And so then they realized like they shouldn't be and they changed. There should be an allowance for that, man. Yeah. It should be an allowance for change. In fact, it should be encouraged. Those people should be celebrated for like, hey you changed your mind on your own that's good good for you you weren't you weren't born into it sure

you're born in something way worse my parents for instance are they both come from families that are completely not politically aligned to who they who they then became and I'm like pretty amazed by that I am exactly like my parents my parents like from the jump I was like oh this is what we're doing okay then this is this is what I also believe which is so easy and such like it's what your community is like defines that for you and they were like no I've looked I've done some introspection I don't think this is right and I'm like oh I don't have that in me I'll just go whichever the way the wind blows no I was just like I was raised and and this was normal and so everything else is not normal yeah all right everybody well thank you

for listening to this podcast about James Gunn about James Gunn about uh garages oh boy well you know when you say it like that i think maybe we aren't contributing anything you can say failure when i look back on what we talked about for the last 45 minutes i'm like i don't think we're we're offering anything to anybody i think that we have what have we provided here like aliens are going to find this and aliens are going to be like Is this what people liked back then or on this planet? And I want to make it clear to the aliens. Not really.

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