Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - The Guys Play Songs You‘ll Love! (or hate)

Episode Date: October 15, 2021

Great tunes, good vibes, very little neurosis. Classic QQ! In this ep the guys hit each other with some sweet tunes, and Soren tries to pronounce a single word for 1% of total episode run time. As alw...ays big thanks to our sponsors.  Thanks Skillshare.  Skillshare.com/qq and one-month free trial of  Premium Membership. Thanks Raycon!.  Go To buyraycon.com/qq for 15% off your entire Raycon order. Thanks Headspace. HEADSPACE.COM/QUICKQUESTION for a FREE one-month trial with access to Headspace’s full mediation library.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So hello again and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, the podcast where two best friends and comedy writers ask each other questions and give each other answers. I am one half of that podcast, author of How to Fight Presidents and staff writer for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, Daniel O'Brien, joined as always by my co-host, Monsieur Soren Bouy. Soren, say hello. Hello, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:19 I'm Soren Bouy. I like Monsieur. Yeah. Sorin Bui. I like Monsieur. Yeah. I'm watching right now a show on Netflix called Give me a second. Sounds like you really like it. I'm watching a show on Netflix
Starting point is 00:00:35 right now called Midnight Mass and there's a guy in there named Monsignor Monsignor. Monsignor. Yeah. And I was like oh I like that kind of address. How do I where do I go online to take a class to become a Monsignor? Monsignor. Yeah. And I was like, oh, I like that kind of address. How do I, where do I go online to take a class to become a Monsignor? Is that just religious? I don't know. It sounds religious and Italian. Yeah, I think it probably is. I think it's got, it's Catholic. So that checks out. Speaking of Netflix shows, I feel like a couple podcasts back,
Starting point is 00:01:06 shows i feel like a couple podcasts back you talked about squid game i still haven't watched it but you were you were the first person i heard about that from and then it it has since exploded the internet i know i've watched that happen i don't feel responsible in any capacity except for maybe the 12 people who listen to this but uh yeah it really blew up in a way where i was like well fucking get on it i'm not the one who who's supposed to have my finger on the pulse like this. Yeah. Oh, you're saying I should get on it? Yeah. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Well, at this point, you're never going to watch it. The fact that it blew up means that you won't ever watch it. I have to be very careful with the things I recommend to you. In fact, there are times where I'll check in to see if you've watched or heard of something, and you'll say, uh, no,
Starting point is 00:01:47 but everybody's telling me to, and then I will pivot and be like, well, don't, it's bad. It's really bad. Don't watch it. Yeah. I'm,
Starting point is 00:01:52 I'm watching squid games. Chances diminish because I was working on, uh, jokes for a script the other day and reached out to my group chat. I was like, someone really quickly for joke purposes, tell me what squid game is about. And they did. And I was like someone really quickly for joke purposes tell me what Squid Game is about and they did and I was like alright I am
Starting point is 00:02:07 pop culturally aware enough about this show that I can competently write jokes about it into another show I'm good I've seen it that's how I basically I treated English literature when I was in college I was like, yellow wallpaper?
Starting point is 00:02:25 Just give me like an elevator pitch. Yeah. I know. Okay. I will talk about yellow wallpaper the rest of my life.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Did that guy ever catch that rye? No. All right. I can see how that would be a big letdown for him. What a phony.
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Starting point is 00:03:26 Explore your creativity at Skillshare.com slash QQ and get a one-month free trial of premium membership. We can get into the show, unless I'm trying to think if there are any... Oh, I went to a concert last night. Wait, who did you go see? Outdoor? Outdoor festival? No. I was very overwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:03:50 It was an indoor concert in Brooklyn. I drove to Brooklyn. Wait. I learned to drive. What? I built a car and drove to Brooklyn. And you got a license? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And it was a joyful and fun concert. It was Sammy Ray and the Friends is the band, and I love them so much. And it was, I have absolutely no regrets. I went with three of my friends. We were the oldest people there by 10 years easily. years easily yeah it was a young young crowd and i was very happy for them but i was also happy that my little coterie of 30 somethings were like it's fine if we don't stay the whole time right we all love this band but like we can duck out of here at 10 beat the crowds yeah absolutely we're gonna duck out of here at 10 and beat the crowds let everyone else struggle to get out at the same time and it was great it was an an amazing decision. She's very young. That's Sammy Rae. Yes. There's one of the songs that we didn't end up sticking around for.
Starting point is 00:04:51 So I love all her songs. Truly, they're great. It's perfect music. But there's a lyric in one of her songs, Let's throw a party. Somebody's turning 30. And looking around the room, I was like, well, two things. No one here is turning 30.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Everyone is turning 30 everyone is turning 22 except four people who are on the wrong side of 30 and i can't be in this room when that lyric is sung yeah i've i mean i've been noticing that at concerts for like a decade that that i'm the wrong age i show up at a concert i'm thinking oh this is a really great band this is going to be very fun not anticipating that i'm not the demographic i went to architecture in helsinki when i was like 29 yeah and i walked in there and i was like uh-oh yeah i'm the far far and away the oldest person here how did that happen and there's no real spot for for me it's like all right there are the kids there are the parents where oh that's really
Starting point is 00:05:48 young oh no yeah i mean not at this concert my friends recently went to uh a pitbull concert and it was all kids and parents and then again like the 30 something section they should i mean i'm obviously segregated concerts for adults go for it soren obviously segregation is wrong let me start with that but give me like a section at a concert where i'm allowed to feel comfortable yeah don't put me with everybody else because i it's so clear not just to me but to them that i don't belong there. And if I start dancing, well, then that's what we're all going to be watching. Yeah. But that's my life update.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Do you have anything or should we get into the show? That's pretty exciting, though. You went to a concert, an indoor concert. Yeah. I think you should be doing more stuff like that, Dan, because you're not accountable to anybody who's not vaccinated. That's true. I think that you could just like start start living your life i mostly do it with a mask
Starting point is 00:06:46 on but you just start living your life again you could get some rapid at-home tests if you wanted to if you weren't comfortable about like your possibility of exposing other people take one of those twice a week or whatever and uh and then just like go out there and do it i'm going to the movies again that's great that's fun do they have i'm gonna see james bond tonight oh you went a night yeah i'm so jealous of that i've heard it's very good and i'm it doesn't even matter if i heard it's a fucking movie in the dark on a giant screen that's what i mean by good that's when i when i rocket man's my favorite movie because i saw it in the theater and i was like this this is the experience
Starting point is 00:07:25 this why isn't everybody doing movies this way this reminds me of a game i'm gonna plant now that we're gonna play in a future episode okay are you ready okay it's called uh dangerous bangers i just learned about it and i'm obsessed with it it was a was a Hollywood reporter profile of Kieran Culkin in anticipation of the next season of Succession. And he described this game, Dangerous Banger. You're supposed to do it in person in a group, but we could just do it this way because of circumstances. You take a movie from your childhood that you love,
Starting point is 00:08:03 a banger that you think is great but that you haven't seen in a while that's what makes it dangerous and then you make someone else watch it or ideally you watch it with them and it's the first time you've seen it for in a while and it's the first time they've seen it period and then you decide by the end of it is this still a banger or was that a mistake yes oh that sounds great yeah okay i have like six in mind that sounds perfect terrific if this ends up the thing that forces me to watch uh monster house or whatever that'll be a real coup for you monster house you're like you get it wrong intentionally just to demean it uh it's monster squad and boy there's a lot of f word that get
Starting point is 00:08:47 f words that get thrown around in that movie okay that's derogative okay not the f word i can handle the other f nope i see the word the bad one yeah uh not sammy ray and the f words uh all right well let's start our show here uh yeah i have a a quick question for you okay sure uh can we invent a non-spooky haunted house experience now what do i mean by that what are you supposed i mean i have guesses so maybe he's got scared by a haunted house and you're like, the world should be different. Man, this house is great, but the ghosts. Someone should invent one without these things.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I couldn't even get a feel for like the floor plan. What's the foot of the house? Is that like 2000 square feet? I can't tell. You got a guy with a chainsaw chasing me into a bathroom. But it's on my mind right now because it's Shocktober. It's Halloween. And that will forever remind me of going to haunted houses this time of year around Halloween when I was in LA.
Starting point is 00:10:02 It just became like a fun thing to look forward to there was like the the the crazy uncomfortable like horror version of haunted house which you and i both did where it's more of an experience where you're like you wear a mask and you wear disorienting goggles sometimes you're in a blindfold you're not allowed to talk and you're sort of like led around a room and there's nudity and people are like dragging you from things. You have to reach your hand into a toilet to retrieve a key to unlock something. And like built into this experience is the possibility that it will be too much for you and you will have to bail early. Like they really want, the point is to shock
Starting point is 00:10:41 you. Dan is describing the blackout haunted house. Yes, thank you. There's, but as everyone knows, descriptions are better when they're longer and they don't ever actually say what you're talking about. So there's those things, there's Blackout and there's also like slightly campier haunted houses where you're going on a tour and like there are actor ghosts
Starting point is 00:11:03 who will jump out and scare you and zombies and stuff and stuff falls from the ceilings i've done a bunch of those a bunch of those that are that mixed with like you have to solve clues in the house that will help you discover the murderer of whatever uh and they were really fun i i enjoyed all those experiences and i just wonder i i i wonder why that market hasn't been expanded to non-spooky things i'm aware of like historical house tours like we would do those as field trips we would go to the coven hoven house where people were dressed up in like colonial gear and they would tell you about churning butter and they would and you'd look at like this is what we used to use to make bread and i'm like cool i'm 13 will you kill me but those are the only options that i'm aware of it's haunted and educational and i wonder if we can on the spot you and i invent a different house experience
Starting point is 00:12:01 and then yeah cash out and just fucking coast and well yeah i may not do this podcast i would throw in haunted houses as well like murder mystery like not even necessarily scary but just like uh still like it's it's that you're it's thoroughly couched in the macabre macabre macabre macabre uh macgyver macgyver the only couch in the macgyver i still don't know how to say that fucking word is it macabre uh i don't know macabre macabre yeah i feel like the the r and the e at the end is just like a you can get away with just doing a little breath at the end of the word and people like oh yeah i know what it is macabre um but yeah i agree i'm putting
Starting point is 00:12:47 i'm putting those like you got to solve a mystery like you're part of a play basically that's like somebody has died and you're catching little glimpses in other rooms of people's conversations like that's all i would put that in the same category we know those exist is what i'm saying oh you're telling you're telling the audience i'm telling you you're telling the audience not to interact with us i'm saying i'm saying yeah you we have not forgotten that those are a thing um do you have one in mind i'm trying to figure out uh something that incorporates singing a musical theater version of this. An immersive musical experience that takes place in different rooms of a house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I can't quite crack it yet, though. Yeah, because you're going to hear, there's going to be bleed. Right. You know, from between the walls, you're going to hear other songs happening. Oh, what if it's... Haunted.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I think that's also like a possibility that i have baked in my brain for um this process that we're going into right now is we might discover why this market hasn't expanded we might realize that it just doesn't make sense well i'm trying to think of what else i'd want to see uh in a in a house like an immersive fun narrative experience in a house. Like is there, like what does if there's a house that exists for haunted house times on Halloween, what do we do with that
Starting point is 00:14:13 house just as a for instance in December for Christmas time or another holiday? Wait, you were, okay, that was I thought you were gasping because you had a better idea. It just occurred to me the Magic Castle exists, and it does a very similar thing with just magic,
Starting point is 00:14:28 where it's like you are in charge. You're wandering from room to room, and as you go into a certain place, you might see somebody doing a really cool trick for five people, and then you wander away. You go somewhere else, and you're like, I'll get a drink, and you get a drink from the bartender, and just at the end of the bar,
Starting point is 00:14:42 there's somebody who's doing some cool magic. That's what the Magic Castle is? I thought it was like one room, and you and you get a drink from the bartender and just at the end of the bar there's somebody who's doing some cool magic that's what the magic castle is i thought it was like one room and you sit there like a like a like comedy show it's a it's a little that too there's also showing rooms where like people can sit there and go to a real magic proper magic show but there's also just magicians throughout this place that are just doing fucking crazy good magic cool yeah and so there is a little element of that you You're not, but they're like, there are rules to it, obviously. Like you can't touch stuff. You're not allowed to ask how a trick is done.
Starting point is 00:15:10 You're not allowed to even talk about how you think it's done. Very, very specific, like annoying magic stuff. That like, which is the first thing you want to do when you're drunk. Like as soon as you start, you get in there and you start drinking in there. You're like, hold on, do that again. Do what you just did. Like, did anybody
Starting point is 00:15:28 else see that? There's just a guy doing tricks for himself at the end of the bar. And you can't, you're not allowed to do that. You're just supposed to like accept the experience. Are your thoughts running in endless circles in your mind? With the stresses of this last year, it's more important than ever to practice living healthier and happier lives. So what if a few minutes was all it took to change your relationship with stress and anxiety, transforming your life for the better? That's the power of meditation with Headspace. Our thoughts can be confusing enough. They don't need any help, but meditation doesn't have to be. Headspace is your convenient dose of meditation and mindfulness and sleep exercises to relieve stress and anxiety and help you get a good night's sleep all in one app. Make it easy to catch your breath and make time tick tock for your mental health. And it's one of the most science-backed
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Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, where you've got, there's clearly, like the story develops as you're walking through this where people, you know, there's some misunderstanding or they don't know that the other ones are there or they have to stay secret
Starting point is 00:19:56 for some reason. And so like, you're just catching all the different parts of this one story. That's a very easy story to follow, obviously. But they're like,
Starting point is 00:20:04 you're catching these little funny vignettes of them, the things that they're doing. So the first one might not even make sense. Like you walk into a room and like, there's people showing up to a cabin for the weekend. And it's like a guy who's brought this woman up there for the first time. And like, they've been dating a little bit, but this is clearly a big step and they're walking in. And then like, they hear like a weird noise and they just sort of ignore it. Or the guy's like covering for this noise. And then later, like like as you're walking through another room you might even get the simultaneous thing that's happening like the rashomon type of thing that's happening in the other room and you hear where that noise actually came from and it's like the brother is there and
Starting point is 00:20:35 the brother is going to be giving him the pitch like the lines that he needs to use for this woman or whatever it is you know yeah a better story that, that I just came up with in five seconds. But something like that might be very fun. I could definitely see that. And by some circumstance, you get pulled in to play a part in this show. Like an iconic costume piece is suddenly on your head and it's like, no, you're the Sultan now. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Stand here. You're part of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. You no, you're the Sultan now. It's fine. Stand here. You're part of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. You have come to check the water pressure. That's your job now. So you're spending a bunch of time. You can lead people around that way. They're like, you have to go to the kitchen and fix the
Starting point is 00:21:16 plumbing. So then you're fucking under the sink while this stuff's happening around you. This is what makes us such good improv partners is that I say, you put on this Sultan hat and you say, yes and check the water around you this is what makes us such good improv partners is that i say you put on this sultan hat and you say yes and check the water pressure that's how i know we're always on the same page well i don't the problem is the sultan hat i don't i don't know what kind of house this is anymore and i can't picture it so i have to like return to something i know
Starting point is 00:21:42 i don't know where we are anymore it's gonna be like i would genuinely enjoy when the world if the world ever returns to normal doing a two-person improv touring show with you where we are where we're we're both trying to put forth our agendas just talking past each other we just decide that the rule of our games is the other one is not participating we just break the point of this improv game is to break the rules of improv let's see if that's anything yeah we clearly have different agendas and we're not going to give up we're not going to give up. We're not going to give up on ours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I think maybe a comedy one, obviously not us, but somebody could do it. Yeah. I'm trying to think of what else I would even enjoy seeing. There's nothing for, there's no like pop-up adult thing for Christmas. Anything that exists for Christmas is for children and rightfully so like the only pop-up christmas things i've seen have been like come to this bar it's decorated for christmas and there are christmas themed drinks that's it right like i there's there's no way for me to be like kids stay home mom and dad are going to a christmas house every year on christmas i think this american life does some really interesting christmas stories
Starting point is 00:23:05 and their stories from people's childhoods um that i always find are pretty fascinating and like the way that they celebrated christmas and not realizing it was crazy until they grew up and i wonder if you could do like that thing where you have a party where there's different drinks in different rooms or each room is themed and then there's somebody who fits that theme in there just telling a story. And it's a story that you could, I mean, you could stick around for 10 minutes of and then leave and be fine.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Maybe you could do something like that. And that would be, there's just like sitting by a fireplace, listening to somebody talk about their Christmas as a child. I might enjoy that. There's a, maybe a food thing thing there's a restaurant in jersey city that is just this person's big house and you make reservations uh it's never like for two or for one it's always big parties of like 10 and uh you make whatever you eat whatever they're making and that's just it and they just make you like a huge meal right there in the kitchen of their
Starting point is 00:24:06 house. And it's this family owned place that's been around for a while. Maybe something like that, but with a story to it. Yeah. Big night. Wait, have you seen big night?
Starting point is 00:24:16 No, you told me it's on the list. Okay. It's one of those. Don't watch it, Dan. It's terrible. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's a bad movie. Don't watch it. You'll hate it um yeah okay i think there's lots of opportunities here i mean i there's clearly gonna be some logistical issues along the way you have to get actors who cook uh really well and i only know one of those it's you dan hey actor that's funny you did a lot of great acting back in the day uh i don't know if that yeah maybe this isn't really the time to sit you down that compliment just now but i was always surprised and impressed by the choices that you'd make and i was like you really funny guy you got
Starting point is 00:24:57 a bob newhart thing happening oh get out of here let's move on to a different thing right this second okay i've got a question for you. Great, thank God. This is exciting because it's the return of a game that I really enjoyed playing with you previously, which was we find a piece of music for one another that we ourselves, well, we're going to do a little alteration on it.
Starting point is 00:25:19 The original game was that we would bring in a piece of music that we like, that we ourselves enjoy and then you just know that the other person is gonna hate we know each other's taste well enough that we can say this is a piece of music that i enjoy and that boy does this venn diagram not overlap my my friend will hate this yes and in that game we we both batted uh 100 percent what's the a thousand thousand okay yeah we batted a thousand So this game's a little tougher. This game is... I'm going to bring in a piece of music
Starting point is 00:25:49 I don't particularly care for. But it's something that I think you will like. Okay. And this is hard. What's great about this game is this might be really insulting. It could be, yeah. It could be, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It also has the potential for the other person to hear it and be like, no, I mean, this is objectively bad. It could be. It also has the potential for the other person to hear it and be like, no. I mean, this is objectively bad. Why do you think I like bad things? I don't know. You like shit that sucks. I thought you'd like this too.
Starting point is 00:26:27 This is a little iteration on what ordinarily happens between friends where you will find a piece of music that you enjoy and you'll say, you know who would enjoy this my friend and you want to share that with them no we're not doing that we're doing a piece of music that you hear you're like oh this is not my style at all but a fucking dan would love it yeah try that let's hear it okay so uh i brought a song here for you first of all i need to know and this could ruin it entirely have you heard of a band called the bantams no perfect it would have been so funny if you if you had a song from sammy ray and the friends i just powered through it even though knowing you had just talked about it um this is a band called the bantams and they have a song called honestly that came up on a playlist for me and i started listening to it and i was like next wait wait and then sat there with it for a little while and i was like i think this has some of the elements that dan really enjoys in music and i'll describe them to you afterwards to maybe save face if you don't like it sure right because you still
Starting point is 00:27:23 want to be right on paper yes yeah that's important uh all right we can play that all right that's good that's good we cut it there ah you sunk my battles, you son of a bitch. So, first of all, a singer who's like clearly not using their best voice. Like they're really like belt. There's a lot more emotion in it than there is like attempt to be really soothing with that. Really croon.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Yeah. There's a lot of like, there's some good lyrics, I think. I think like some lyrics that I'd be like, oh, those are interesting. And then also that, those like that pause right after the chorus, they're like into just some lyrics
Starting point is 00:28:18 and then right back into the music. Yeah. My, I definitely liked the song right away. And then as it built and it was getting to that big stop, my heart was like, I hope they fucking do what I want them to do here. And then they did. Took me to the moon. Oh, I'm so pleased.
Starting point is 00:28:38 That's great that you like it. Yeah, what's the name of that song? That's called Honestly. That's a band called The Bantams. Honestly. Great. Excellent. What a day I'm going to have. yeah what's the name of that song that's called honestly that's a band called the bantams honestly great yeah excellent what a day i'm gonna have uh that's at a high bar i hope well first of all i'll ask uh i think you might have heard i heard of this band just because i think they're more popular than i expected uh do you know private island no oh boy they came up with a playlist. They do a cover of Can't Take My Eyes Off of You.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And I loved it. I really enjoyed it. And I was like, what else do these chaps have? And I hated all of it. And so now we're going to play a song called Mad Mirage for you. Okay. All right. So I was worried, Dan, there at first. Really?
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah. The intro to it, I was like is what this is slow this is like melancholy this is not me and then like it broke into like it got a little more dittier and it had like that wind whispering through it like there's a and i was like oh yeah this is my shit okay good all right it does i forgot it started that way where it sounds like like uh like the worst kind of the fray song and i'm like oh did i do this because like that's one of my issues with this with this band because i do really like their bass player a whole lot so i've listened to their album a few times because of that but uh full disclosure before this podcast i sent a song to
Starting point is 00:30:24 to gabe i was like play this for soren and then i realized i sent the wrong one i was like no no no it's this one it's mad mirage it's because i can't tell any of these fucking songs apart so even if as it was playing this time it was like the first time i'd ever heard it it all sounds like the same kind of toothless background noise to me that i know you like that's my jam yeah the stuff that's like completely inoffensive the vanilla of music that like it just grew to in the back while i'm while i'm doing something else um there's a band that i just discovered called tennis that has like and it's even like borderline a little cheesy where it's like it just hits this one sweet spot for me
Starting point is 00:31:04 and it's very much like that and i'm just like oh oh this is just what i want they have a band called diamond i mean a song called diamond rings that i'm confident you would hate um and it's oh it's just perfect for me it's right in my wheelhouse yeah i like that listen anyone who tells me i'm not an artist or i don't really get art i don't believe believe you. I think that in some capacity, you are made to create. You know what art is. You build art, whether or not you know it every single day. you can explore your creativity and be inspired skillshare is an online learning community that offers membership with meaning with so much to explore and real projects to create and the support of fellow creatives skillshare empowers you to accomplish real growth in whatever you want to do it's your choice you've got the reins my friend whether you're a dabbler or a pro or a
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Starting point is 00:33:19 that will kill your plants. So explore your creativity at skillshare.com and get a one month free trial of premium membership. That's one month of a premium membership at Skillshare.com slash QQ. Yeah, this is, uh, which, which of these two games do you think, by the way, I don't have any other songs. So that's the end of this game. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Uh, unless do you have another one for me? Well, I have a song that's the other way. That's the, that's a song that I think that you would hate and that I absolutely love. Okay. It's like a song that I'll even listen to at the gym, even though it's got a weird pacing to it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:52 But I want to try that version of it. We don't have to do one from you, but I just want to give it a shot. Yeah. Watch, I'll play Diamond Rings by Tennis. No, I'm going, this is a completely different song. This is, are you familiar with the Mountain Goats?
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yes. This might be you might lose. I love the Mountain Goats. You do? Yeah. Oh man. So what I thought I would have landed on here was the same reason I like the December so much is that
Starting point is 00:34:24 they tell like a clear narrative story and the vocals are like the star of the song. And it's clearly an affected, an affectation that the- Yeah, he's not like a pleasant sounding guy. No, and I thought that that would immediately be the thing that would hurt you the most. But I want to play, have you heard the song Heretic Pride? Maybe, I don't think so actually. let's listen to a little bit of it well they come and pull me from my house
Starting point is 00:34:52 and they drive my body through the streets it's it's just it sounds like such a Mountain Goat song. It clearly is. Yeah, I love it. I hadn't heard that one. I love it. I'll add it into my rotation. This is sort of a tangent of this game. This was sometime last year, I think,
Starting point is 00:35:19 where my brother and I were talking about music and how we hadn't been excited about anything for a while. And then it was right when uh yeah it was 2020 mountain ghost released getting into knives and i yeah devoured that album and i loved it so much and i was like per our conversation about music guess what just dropped today and i sent it to him and he was like oh i do not like this yeah uh it's it's certainly like a dark horse for you i think yeah um this doesn't fit your usual mold but i'm pleased to hear that you like it they so heretic pride is an album too
Starting point is 00:35:54 and heretic pride is on it it's the whole album is outstanding i think it's from like 2010 or something like that but it's um it it basically is a story that takes place over all the songs which is the story of this weird apocalyptic future there's like some war in the future and this song as far as I can get I can understand it's like it's about the antichrist I think and it's like how the antichrist
Starting point is 00:36:16 is prophesized by a god that so he would be part of like he would be fulfilling god's prophecy so he'd be just as devout as anybody else, any of the other followers. So it's about this guy who's like tasting jasmine on his tongue and smelling the honeysuckles as he's being basically thrown into a pit by this entire town who are trying to kill him. And he's just like enjoying that being alive and like seeing everything around him in the summer day that it is.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And just like marking each one of their faces one by one and then expecting his transfiguration where he burns hotter than the sun itself and it's such like a weird cool perspective that I'd never heard in a song before and I was like I just love it so much yeah that's great
Starting point is 00:36:59 I'm realizing now that I I've listened to so much Mountain Goats and a couple of their albums, front to back is the only way that I consume them. But I don't actually know if I know what almost any of their songs are about. Even when you're talking about that being a concept album. I don't...
Starting point is 00:37:20 Really? Yeah. Yeah, there's... I know this year is the like the obvious yes they're famous pop one and it's pretty explicitly about what it's about and there are there are a few things on sunset tree that i know what they're about but like you could tell me that sunset tree was uh a concept album that's all telling one story and that would be news to me yeah yeah sometimes like they'll they'll reference like first and last names.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And I just, I blow it off. I just think like, yeah, he knows somebody named that. I don't know. Yeah. It's Jack and Diane. Yeah. Wait, is that what they are? Jackie and Diane?
Starting point is 00:37:55 Jack and Diane? Sucking down chili dogs? Yeah. Okay, good. Good. I had the right people. I didn't want to accuse the wrong people of sucking down chili dogs. Bob, pleased to hear that you like the mountain ghosts that's good i just feel like you're just like a a hair's breadth
Starting point is 00:38:09 away from liking the decemberist dan it's possible that i need to hear the right song by them but it's it's it's likely that i never will yeah i'll say the mountain ghosts maybe rock a little harder too yeah they're a little too folksy uh the discerberus for your for your liking i and i i discovered this about myself too is when i was just listening to playlists at the gym that i don't know uh that occasionally one would come on and it would start with some mandolin and i was like i fucking love this song and i didn't even know yet but just like the mandolin got me going where i was like yeah mountain goats is an interesting gym song so that song yeah it is this this album is is it rocks a little bit more and
Starting point is 00:38:52 then but it's also the story that it tells is just got so much um like it's so clear it's coming from a narrative perspective and it's yeah and i and it's somebody who is really like pushing hard and I, I can relate to that while I'm in the gym. Yeah. So I take it, you know, it's not just like, you know, drum beats and stuff. It's like the lyrics really do it for me. Yeah. There's, uh, uh, going to Georgia really speaks to me for that, like narrative thing. Cause he crams a lot of lyrics in there and like the song is a little raw tinny acoustic yeah like a lot of their songs and as soon as he starts singing the most remarkable thing about coming home to you and it's like oh yeah this guy's got something to say let's go he's not even waiting for like
Starting point is 00:39:34 a melody well if we play this game again i have an entirely new artist for you that is also kind of like on the line and i don't know if you're going to enjoy them or not but it's somebody who i deeply enjoy and i think you might hate what do you think was more difficult finding a song you don't like that i like or vice versa no finding a song that i don't like that i think you would like is very very very hard to do also i think possibly the best type of gift you could give to somebody something where you it's it's completely altruistic it's something that you don't enjoy but that you are like but i want you to have it because i like you and i think you would like it yeah uh back to the conversation of gifts i yeah i did uh this this is this i don't think it's a romantic thing but tell me if it's shitty
Starting point is 00:40:26 anyway i was uh i introduced a woman to this album of songs we were talking about it and just on a lark i was like there's one song on there that i hate do you think you could find it and she did that's wonderful that's really great i think that's that's a fun test to give someone that is really good it's that's because because exchanging music and movies and tv is about testing people to see if they're correct there's another music game we ought to play again on this which was a lot of fun which was we picked out a song that we really enjoyed and like one lyric that really ruined the song for us and it was this time last year because I did Busted Makes Me Feel Good. And this is canonically the only time of year
Starting point is 00:41:10 you allow yourself to listen to that kind of music. It's true. It's true. Yeah, we should play these gigs more often. We have a lot more content for this podcast than we think we do. Yeah. That said, are we done yet 36 minutes
Starting point is 00:41:26 how's your uh uh oh that sound that you just did reminded me um a thing i learned about myself because i was listening to uh the i don't want to bore you. The Hunter Foster, Carrie Butler, Broadway recording of Little Shop of Horrors. And in Grow For Me, the plant does like kissing noises when it wants blood. And a thing I learned about myself listening to that song for the first time in a while is I really hate the audio of kissing sounds. It really, really bugs me. How do you feel about that? It's like the audio of kissing sounds. It really, really bugs me.
Starting point is 00:42:06 How do you feel about that? It's like the opposite of ASMR. Yeah. There's just some sound that you hear, and you're like, nope. Nope. No, you have to stop that right now. I have one. It's a noise that this only happens, and I only ever hear it when, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Actually, now there's two times in my life that I hear it. But the first one that I'd always hear is people would be like, Dan, will you check your mic, please? And Daniel would go. I forgot that I used to do that. Or he'd go. Like you do that noise and it would be like, oh God, get it off of me. What a prick. get it off of me what a prick you do these weird little visceral noises that don't have any like they're not attached to
Starting point is 00:42:51 anything in the world but they are bad like they're i don't associate them with anybody i just don't like them just showing up on set thinking sound engineers are probably bored of the same old thing i'll give them him a thrill. Let me turn this into a game. You're talking to somebody who intentionally went and peed it with his mic next to the toilet for Nick Rude to hear and said, this one's for you, buddy. Thank God he took that well, because now I think that might actually have been harassment.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Oh, yeah. But he thought it was fun. So I guess know your audience um but um the only other time that i hear that now is now that i have a cat sometimes it will come it likes to sit on me and i'm cool with that that's fine while i'm watching a show or whatever um something to pet but the cat also as soon as it gets really comfortable on you it just starts cleaning itself yeah and it's there's nothing more annoying than having a cat clean itself in front of you because it makes that terrible noise as it's like licking there's their
Starting point is 00:43:51 that's leg totally sprawled out over its head and it's it's good ah stop it terrible terrible noise and the same motion over and over but it's just like a little tiny jerky motion it's like somebody tapping you over and over and then occasionally like they'll be cleaning themselves and they'll, their tongue will kind of hit your jeans a little bit or like hit your shirt. And it's just so unbearable that I can't, that like, I think this cat assumes I hate it because the minute it comes and sits on me and we were like, okay, we're good. We're comfortable. Okay. I'm going to take a quick bath. I'm like, no, you got to get off. You got to go. I don't like, I don't like you. You have to not even be on the couch with me. Cause I don't like
Starting point is 00:44:30 the noise. Um, but, uh, that's, that's you, you introduced me to it, Dan. I had no place to put it. And now I know where it exists in nature. And I'm like, yeah, I was right not to like it. Is there a reason you've been so conservative online with your cat content? I don't think anybody cares. When has that stopped anyone from anything? I'm pretty conservative with my children content too. I will tell stories occasionally on Twitter about my children if they did something funny. Or if I feel like a picture won't haunt them forever.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I will put that up with some context. But I just don't know. I don't feel like anybody gives a shit about my cat. And I care about that. I care about people giving a shit. Yeah. Well, at least send me pictures of your cat. I'll send you some.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yeah. So here's an update about my cat oh yeah gave my minutes are ticking away it's given my family ringworm which i didn't even know was possible fuck i guess this cat was one that came with it right out of the box i don't understand how it works. But the cat had some ringworm, some hidden ringworm. And then all of a sudden just started to get... Maybe I talked about it on the podcast where the cat had some alopecia on her face. And it turns out that was ringworm. And ringworm is terrible to get rid of.
Starting point is 00:46:00 It's awful. And not only that, it's deeply contagious. So my son now has ringworm in four different spots my wife has it on her thigh just because the cat always sits on her lap while she works my daughter and i do not have it partially because i won't let this cat sit on me long enough to like clean itself sure and then also my daughter's the cat wants nothing to do with her so they don't touch a lot but my son and my wife now have it, and I'm like, how does this happen? And it's like you got to put like an antifungal cream on it.
Starting point is 00:46:33 You got to wash it with a special shampoo. When I say it, I mean the cat. Right. And I'm not going to bathe this cat. Apparently, I could take it to a groomer, but that also seems deeply haunting for the cat too, where I walk out of the room, she's with strangers and they do something terrifying to her.
Starting point is 00:46:49 So I'm like, I don't know, man. Grooming is a normal part of pet ownership. But not for cats, I don't think. Cats for the most part take care of themselves, but taking them in and getting a cat a bath, it's not like giving a dog a bath. That's a traumatic experience, I think, for a cat. And I mean, so much so that they don't do it naturally themselves,
Starting point is 00:47:13 that their only instinct is like, look, I would rather eat all the dust off my skin than actually get in any amount of water. But a ringworm, if you don't know, it's not actually a worm. It's don't if you don't know it's like a it's not actually a worm it's just a i don't know a bacteria maybe it's just like a it bits a rash it's a rash that forms a ring a little red ring and it's itchy and it stings a little when you itch it and my son is just in pain and i'm every single night slathering him in this stuff and apparently for the cat now i have to give it some oral medication too which is now i gotta figure out how to get a pill in this cat
Starting point is 00:47:48 it's just uh don't don't get a cat dan no i won't i talk about this cat like i hate it i won't let it sit on me and i and i am mad at it all the time but i do like it i think it's a really sweet cat and i um when i called it, I was just joking earlier. She's wonderful. She's a good cat. I don't think she listens. Oh, God. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I mean, she is outside the garage right now. So it's possible she can hear me. It's bonkers because this entire section of the podcast, Jackson has been sitting on the couch staring at me. And I'm not breaking away from it either. We're just maintaining full eye contact with each other and like he's sitting up looking at me. He's not, he doesn't think we're going
Starting point is 00:48:31 anywhere or anything's about to happen. He's just staring at me. Yeah, he's following the conversation. Yeah. He's enjoying the things that you're saying right now or hearing, I guess. Yeah, that's the thing. Another thing about cats that i didn't realize is like dogs will like the affection of you looking at them yeah they like seeing your face and like they follow your facial uh they give you your eyebrows raise at the middle and down at the sides like you're
Starting point is 00:49:01 sad like they recognize that yeah cats don't fucking want you looking them in the eye cats want you to breathe the same way that they blink really slowly when they're really comfortable and they just sort of look off in the middle distance that's what a cat wants you to do around it that's what makes them the most comfortable when you look at a cat they're like what the fuck are you looking at? Yeah. What is it? What? What? And they hate it. And it just goes against my very nature.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yeah. I found, and this is more a criticism on me than it is of Jackson, certainly, but I was out with someone and they were like, so what's your dog like? I was like, he's thoughtful. so what's your dog like? I was like, he's thoughtful. I think he prefers suburbs over the city. He likes to run a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:53 He loves people. He's not a huge fan of other dogs. He likes to make me jealous when there's someone else in the house. He likes to sit on their lap and look at me. And the person was like, no, like small big what kind i was like oh oh i see what you're saying he's a poet he's really a poet trapped in a jock's body i've had that sort of relationship with dogs before. Never any other animal.
Starting point is 00:50:25 And now that I have a cat, I'm like, I thought for sure in the first few months that I had it, I'd be like, yeah, I mean, I'm going to really grow. Because I liked the cat a lot. I liked when it was, I'd take it outside and it would stick with me and everything. I was like, yes, this is very cool. But I'm not developing that loving relationship
Starting point is 00:50:41 with my cat that I would with a dog. It's just sort of like fine i enjoy playing with it sometimes i enjoy making it feel comfortable and scratching it under its chin and watching it really stretch out and enjoy that but outside of that that's our relationship that's pretty much it whatever whatever whatever sure it's just a cat uh we should probably wrap things up yeah I don't even know if anyone's listening
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