Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - The Guys SWEAT

Episode Date: November 5, 2021

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So, hello again and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, the podcast where comedy writing professionals ask each other questions and give each other answers in ways that many are describing as peak bestie. I am one half of that podcast, staff writer for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, author of How to Fight Presidents, and host of the podcast Dead Presidents, available on Citra Premium, Daniel O'Brien, joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Soren Bui. Soren, say hello. Hey, everybody.

I'm Soren Bui. I work for the show called American Dad as a writer, and I've got-host, Mr. Soren Bui. Soren, say hello. Hey, everybody. I'm Soren Bui. I work for the show called American Dad as a writer, and I've got another podcast too. I've got other ones going on. It's no big deal. Thanks to Raycon for supporting Quick Question. Raycons start at half the price of other premium audio brands, but they sound just as good. For a limited time, you can unlock up to 20% off your Raycon order at buyraycon.com slash QQ. Thanks to Canva Pro for supporting Quick Question. Canva Pro is a design platform that empowers you to create and share stunning content in just a few clicks. Get a free 45-day extended trial by going to

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Now give me time to make up the names. Yeah, you'll have plenty of time to come up with podcasts. You're doing another podcast? plenty of time to come up with podcasts you're doing another podcast no i did another podcast um for a network called uh howl.fm a number of years ago and i i just recently was like oh i should probably i should uh see if that still exists anywhere in the world and howl.fm does not exist anymore the podcast lives on stitcher um five episodes one day i i it might be wise for me to invest in securing the rights to a podcast that carries my name uh features exclusively my writing and research and voice and uh includes guests that were 100% people in my phone that I got.

Yeah. Is this the podcast that I did a pilot with you for? That's right. Oh, that was so much fun. Yeah, it was out of my hands. And we'll never see the light of day. No. That was a great episode that no one will ever, ever hear.

It was, yeah. I didn't realize it was going to be an episode that we didn't... I think there was... Our producer let us know that we might never air that episode and it might be a test episode, but I thought once our shared charisma is found and felt, there's no way this is going to end up on the shelf. And then it just was.

You were bumped by Hannah Hart. Yeah, well, that's fair i don't i think that probably the p the higher-ups knew that i wasn't quite a get because other people on that show included like the lead singer fallout boy and hannah hart famously of the internet yeah and a bunch of very famous people that you have had for whatever reason bumped into in your life and uh that's fair that's fair that that old soren sit up on the shelf and collect dust yeah but you know i could tell there was something there so we started this whole podcast that that that no one can shelf no matter how fucking hard we try we're gonna get into this you really do this one's gonna be uh a little bit different i have just like a uh definitely a quick update because as devotees dob's devotees will uh recall

that i talked about doing a race on this show did i ever talk about that yeah you did will yeah will devotees remember that uh and that race uh was last saturday well you should explain it's not this is a foot race that's a foot race yeah yeah uh and how far was it 5k it was just a 5k yeah it was just something that i i saw there was one near me on my home turf. And so I signed up for it because I wanted something to train for. And this got me out of just like running for running sake, which I still love and still miss while I was training, but like do really focused speed training

and try to beat my, like a mental barrier that I had. Cause I didn't, I wasn't really keeping track of what my personal record was before, but over training, I was like, okay, the thing that I want to do is beat 24 minutes. And Sorin... Yeah. I did.

What was your time? 23 minutes and 37 seconds. You blew it out of the water. I did. And here's a trick that I want to impart to all of our listeners for what I think was incredibly helpful for me to do this because my older brother David ran a 5k like a month and a half before I did and destroyed my record but also had like in his head he wanted to do around 24-23 minutes so he created a Spotify

playlist that was exactly as long as like, as too long would be. In my case, it was 24 minutes. And he used that when he was training and he used that to know like when he's in the race, okay, it's the last song in my playlist that tells me if I got this or not. And I thought that was super helpful for training. And I was really excited to build an exactly 24-minute playlist. And I wanted to share it with you and our listeners.

And I also wanted to, I told you in advance, to make your own 24-minute playlist. So this is a playlist that if your goal is to run very fast in 24 minutes or less than 24 minutes, what is your pump-up playlist? Yes. Have I done... I put a staggering amount of thought into it. Is that explanation long enough?

Yeah. No, I think that's exactly as long as it needed to be. You have to explain that in the same way that... What's that? Driver Baby. What's that movie? Baby Driver? Yeah, there was a 50-50 shot of getting that right.

In that movie baby driver uh that in the same way that he has a songs that are specific to the amount of time that somebody's going to spend in doing a bank heist this is a really great idea for this song this this group of songs should take you the exact amount of time to do your run and you know hopefully it's the type of music that will make you run faster yes it serves both of those purposes and uh the the third purpose itself is or serves is if you if you fail then you have to finish the race in total silence like that's the the last insult is if i went over 24 minutes which was always a possibility if i went over it then then i just have to sit there being wrong and and like left with nothing but my thoughts about my wrongness.

So, so let's see your, your splits, uh, seven 34, something like that. Let me, let me, let me pull them up. Do you want to vamp while I pull them up on my app? Yeah. So I, I was very excited to do this, by the way, I spent way too much time doing this particular homework because as i started to do it like i started to create a list realized there were a lot of songs i was putting on there i had way too many to begin with and then i thought songs i really like and things that songs i think i'd really enjoy but they're not right for specifically a 24 minute run like there's some there's going to be a musical interlude in them

that's going to drag me down or there's the song is just too long like it just would like bombs over bagdad was a song i consider putting on there because it moves so fast that's like an eight minute song what is that but it's way too long and there's like that rock ahead rag top rock ahead like that whole chant in the middle of it where it's just like no no i couldn't i wouldn't be able to listen to this i need these songs to be i need them to get in and i need them to get out fast yeah and then like on to the next song um my splits uh 737 yeah okay did you did i just do great math i think you did but that was another thing i found that was troubling with this task oh my god adding up the song minutes because the thing is the thing

i don't know if a lot of our listeners know this but like the the numbers don't don't go to 100 so you can't you can't do times to a to a calculator as far as i know yeah you can't just put it like a two minute and 54 second song you can't put 2.54 no you'll fuck yourself but uh so what i ended up doing was counting up all the seconds so and then dividing that by 60 so i had like a somewhat of an idea of like how many minutes plus like if it was like 15 oh great i mean if it was like 25 i know that that's gonna be a quarter of a of a minute but uh so i got those and then i added up all the minutes and then added it did some like rough math and then put it together and i was like oh no i did it i nailed it yeah i i spent way too

much time a because i was like really trying to put thought into what was going to help me in this race and b just being like okay this is 27 minutes that's no good so i'll have to lose this song that puts me down to 22 minutes okay let me add this song well that's 28 minutes all right maybe if i lose one of these other songs and just like i refuse to do any math for for a while i was like maybe it'll just magically work out if i just start hacking and adding different songs just uh uh and you also can't there there's songs like you can't just have a bunch of bangers. You can't just have a go, go, go, go, ghost list. Because that's also, you've got to anticipate where you're going to be pacing yourself and stuff like that in the race.

And boy, I don't want to say I nailed it, but I understood the assignment. Yes. I'm going to play, I'm not going to play you all of my songs. I'm going to play the ones that I'm pretty certain you don't know. Okay. And the first one is a Wolfpack song. Guess we started off. I think you'll hear, if you listen closely, you'll hear that the song starts with a subtle jet plane taking off,

which really, really helped set the mood of how fast I want it to be. Okay. And we're going to play about 20 seconds or so of this. It's Conscious Club by Wolfpack. Long flight. Long flight. It's my first night in Berlin and I want to dance. Where should I?

The Conscious Club? Oh, the Conscious Club. Let Joe dodge. Wolfpack is the house band. Yeah, yeah. Wolfpack. That's it. Welcome to the conscious club

starts in then i'm really like ready to move because it's got a nice active beat, but also just like, it's cheerful. It's not one of the more aggressive ones yet. And I like starting off with kind of like, yeah, we're having a good time. Remember that running is fun and we're having a good time.

Yes. Moving right through my list, the second song, I'm assuming you know, do you know Beating Heart Baby? No. Oh, really? Oh, we'll play a little bit of this this is my head automatica and This is right into I need I need to move fast and I need to move hard What I like about it is it stays mostly that for most of the entire time. It's like bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk, bonk. Yeah.

And it was good. And the next one you don't,'m i'm sure you know is uh probably the most obvious pick on here born to run by bruce springsteen i shouldn't have to explain why that's right that i'm sure you get the minute you google good songs to run to absolutely google doesn't even like send me the results i start googling songs to run to and then my whole computer just starts playing it and then i get up and i run and that's it's such an obvious pick it's also it's bruce springsteen he's a jersey boy it's i'm not even the biggest springsteen

fan on the planet but i feel like i owe it to him and to myself to have him be a part of this journey for me uh the next one is the last polka by ben folds five a song that has come up on this podcast before but for different reasons and i'm gonna i'm gonna skip ahead uh to one of the parts of the song that this is getting close to the halfway point or a little bit past that uh in the race and this is just a part of the song that shows up around there. That gets me super amped. i'm at this point of the race screaming yeah well you've got somebody going to town on a keyboard which is like your achilles heel there like you you will always bow to that. Which brings us neatly into my fifth of seven songs in this playlist. This one you definitely haven't heard. It's Melinda by Jason Robert Brown.

Friday morning, early summer. I'm realizing how a lot of these don't sound good for the assignment. Yeah, I'm just thinking in my head how you and I get hyped in totally different ways. Yeah. I'll explain some methods after we're done with the list. Really quickly, the last two, um, what I found very valuable when I was assembling this list was, uh, out of frustration,

Googling songs that are only one minute long. And there was like a pre-made Spotify playlist. That's great for that because I was shy a minute from my total. And I knew I wanted to end on the distance by cake, which is another as obvious as Born to Run was closing with The Distance. But before that, I needed a one-minute song and To Be the Best by Tenacious D really fit that bill.

Someone could argue that the entire list should have been that that's a montage song that is a song that's designed to be a training montage song yeah uh so that fits perfectly you have you heard of the band me first and the gimme gimme's oh of course so they do a lot of very very short like one minute one minute and five second songs i mean they're they're exclusively a cover band yes they are and they do very quick versions and then there's also there's old like punk records i don't know if nitro put it out but it was a uh short music for fat people or something like that um and there was a bunch of songs like that a bunch of songs that were one minute 12 one minute five like that kind of stuff yeah i'm realizing now looking at my list with obvious exceptions of like born to run and the distance and that tenacious d song they're songs that i

put on there um because they pump me up in like a physical way but also they're good like mental escape songs for me of like like that that jason robert brown melinda song is like he's he's a musical theater guy and this is from one of his solo like just music music music albums and that's a song that's like a big storyteller song it's setting a time and place and uh it just really gets me amped in less of a less of a tenacious d you're the the strongest guy and the fastest guy in the world and more of just like i can disassociate and live in this world for a little while and uh somehow that makes me faster yeah no i i was gonna ask you how important are lyrics to you um it goes back and forth like that the i i can't tell you what the lyrics of that tenacious d song are

yeah okay and the the and last polka gets me amped because i love that song the lyrics are about uh what what seems like a a pretty rough breakup yeah and that one's not your so you put that kind of in the middle though right yeah interesting okay all right i would you know what i i should have done before this that i i will do after this now and then not share with anyone is i can look at i can see on my app what miles i was slowest on and i want to see where i am in the music at that point to see what really fucked me up. Will you do me a favor and play like the last

12 or 10 seconds of the distance? I want to hear what the very end of it sounds like. What you're sprinting through at the end. It's a pretty solid end yes it is it's there's just like that little dead heartbeat at the end um obviously i finished the race before that dead heartbeat and so you also had to suffer the punishment of finishing the race in silence no i finished i finished the race and like could end the music oh i see i see yeah yeah yeah because the the goal the real goal is to beat the playlist yeah and and the like the most telling thing for me was by the time i

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I know that if I get under nine minutes, I feel good. Yeah, it's, this is certainly the fastest I've been in a very long time in my life. And I'm in the same boat with like, when I've run an 850 mile, I've thought this is the fastest I can be at this age, period. I don't think I could be any faster. So you're right. It is very fast to be doing these sub eight miles. And I'm, I'm proud of them and also pretty happy that I, I technically never have to do it again. I can go back to like a pleasant nine minute mile. Right? Yeah. You can't, if you ever run one of these again, your instinct is gonna want you to beat this time and that's tough yeah i mean imagine doing this again and not beating it

i know and this was i i i don't have i i think really it's a young man's game is what i'm coming up against because running this race because it was a sparsely attended race i was a little bit more competitive than i usually am in a race in terms of like finishing roughly in the top 15 top 20 because there just weren't a lot it was a 300 person race and i knew what i wanted to do and as i'm i'm getting to like personal records and stuff there i'm like maybe maybe i'm just gonna do this for a year just do a 5k every month and see what i can do because i felt good about this and then i found out that the winner of this race uh finished in 19 minutes and two seconds i was like oh no fuck that wow that's that's what a real winner of this race sounds like no thank you i can't i can't interesting to run next to that person and just see. I can't even conceptualize of how fast that feels to be running.

That is so quick. I mean, the person is sprinting. Yeah. Or they've just got the longest stride in the world. No, he was a short guy. Do you find that when you get to the end of your run, do you do a little magic trick where when you want to go faster at the end, instead of just trying to be like, well, I need my body to go faster. You just start pumping your arms faster.

I do. I make my hands knife hands like the T1000. Oh yeah. He seemed real dynamic. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're turning your body into a sports car at that point.

Um, that's smart. That's a good sprinting technique. I've taught my son to do that and he does it it's very fun for me to watch and it does make him faster uh i it will help you to start because your your legs are tied to your hands for whatever reason on your run if you just start moving your arms faster because there's nothing telling you you can't your legs are like oh fuck we got to keep up and they'll start moving faster too it's a great little trick yeah your eggs don't your legs don't want to get left behind no no the body naturally wants to stay together it's like a weird instinct yeah um i think that's a good playlist dan i think that it's not right

for me but i think it's a good there was i think going into this i was pretty sure that we weren't going to have any overlap of songs i thought maybe the distance because it's such a cliche um but I did think I was going to introduce you to songs that would get you very excited and I don't think I did that no your first song is a song I will continue to listen to I'll put that on my sweat mix which is my like I'm gonna go work out mix um i really thank god that's what it's for it's so weird the name of it comes from during quarantine my wife has started this program on an app called sweat that like you pay to do and it's there's some instructor that takes you through a class basically and she needed music for it and we just have we haven't found new music in 12 years and

she needed songs that would help her on it and i was like oh i'll create a sweat mix for you and then i started listening to it too because it was so helpful yeah anyway yeah it's called sweat mix uh well dan i'm gonna i'm gonna take you through mine. Is that all right? Absolutely. Okay. We are on completely the same page as far as starting off. You want a song that makes you want to move and that makes you feel like it's a good day. It's a good day to be out and you just feel good listening to it. And so my first song is by Katrina and the Waves called Walking on Sunshine. Are you familiar with that one?

I am familiar with that one. I can't believe post you know, the thing Katrina and the Waves hasn't rebranded Cat and the Beach or something. At least the very least Katrina and the levees the Beach or something. Or at least, the very least, Katrina and the levees.

The broken levees. Yes. So, but just so it's in people's minds, like it just starts out so great. now the issue with that is that it will be very hard for me not to dance a little while i'm on that first part of the run which is just like expended energy where like i just want to like move my arms and stuff i want to like dance to it a little i want to do some hops and things like that man i can't tell you the temptation to airbase my whole list has. Now, are you familiar with a band called Electric Guest? No.

Okay, Jorma from Lonely Island. Yeah, his brother is in a band called Electric Guest. He's the lead singer for this band. And the next song on my list is called This Head I Hold. Here we go. 100% I'm dancing to this. So that's a great song that's like fun. It's upbeat. It makes me want to move again. But it's also the songs that I'm starting with are like songs that I wouldn't be sprinting to.

They're just songs that make me still excited about running. And they're just slow enough that they will, I'll pace myself to them. Like I'll listen to them and try and run to the beat a little bit. that they will, I'll pace myself to them. Like I'll listen to them and try and run to the beat a little bit. And it will keep me from starting out too hard, which is like a huge problem for me. If I'm going to try and beat a wrecker at my own PR,

I frequently come out of the gates too hard. And then by the end I'm gassed. Yeah, especially if you're doing a race and there are other people around and you're just like, you naturally want to run with the people in the group. And then you're like, oh, this feels feels different 15 seconds in your body's like this isn't how we usually do this yeah uh it's it's it's hard when like you start a race and you're like all of a sudden you're out

in front you have to be like oh no that's that can't be right. So the next song, I don't know if you're familiar with it or not. I know you're familiar with the lead singer because it's a Fall Out Boy song. And maybe the only Fall Out Boy song I've ever really listened to, I think. I mean, I've heard them before, the mall and stuff like that, but I've never really sought them out except for this one song. It's called Young Volcanoes. Do you know it? No. Okay, here we go.

So here's what I'm curious about. Lyrically, this isn't distracting to you? Or is that, or do you want the lyrics to be distracting? Well, the lyrics get to a point where they make me feel like I need to go faster. I'll let you hear just a little bit more until we get to the the course of it and that will really tell i think it will explain itself it's a song about celebrating ourselves. A very specific type of person, but like saying that we're young volcanoes has this effect on me where, that's a song I play with my son a lot

when we dance in the house. And thinking of him as a young volcano is, I like thinking of him that way. I like thinking of him as being just like so full of energy and so full of life that it's just erupting out of him that way i like thinking of him as being just like so full of energy and so full of life that uh is it's just erupting out of him and i'm like trying to embody that when i'm on this run that's adorable now what what are the lyrics what about the lyrics do you think are too distracting

i heard something about a coliseum and then i think i heard something about foxes and hens yeah so he's saying uh we are the lions free to the columns like when roams and ruins we are the lions free from the coliseum so like and then um tonight the foxes hunt the hounds it's all over now uh it's just like a changing of the guard basically okay it's not i don't i don't need to keep a uh like a like a dramatist persona in my head of who all the players are. No, no. It's just about like we are taking over.

We are the youth and we're taking over, which is clearly not me anymore, but it's still like I know what that felt like at one point in my life. I know how to access that. I've got a shortcut on my keyboard for that. On my emotional keyboard. Okay.

So that's young volcanoes. Fall Out Boy. I love that song. I think it's absolutely great. Yeah. So I love it so much that I was for American Dad. We recorded Patrick Stump and I was so nervous to tell him how much I liked it. And I didn't.

I was just like, I can't. it's just i don't want to sound like i'm fawning over it and i won't be able to help it if i do because i like this song so much yeah all right there are certain there are certain artists that have inspired me so much that if i saw them i would just think nope i'm gonna cry and shit myself so i just gotta let this opportunity go i gotta just you're not allowed to say hi to jeff goldblum i guess this is my is my poll you have to think what good will this do anyone yeah if i meet them it's not going to benefit their life right and and i'm going to walk away from the circumstance no matter what i'm going to walk away being disappointed in what happened

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And that's what this song is. It's by Janelle Monae and it's called Tightrope. Do you know this one? Absolutely know this one. Yeah. I'll play just a second of it. Yeah, no, play the whole thing. Monae at left foot. now i think of this song as a puddle dodging scene i mean it's a puddle dodging song this

is a song where i am it's hard for me not to like take steps in each direction like i'm juking somebody basically yeah you're weaving through the crowd yeah yeah it feels like a nike commercial that song that song is like born to be in a in an ad for running um yeah it does i will say that towards the end there's a a moment that she gives to the horns that where she's like hey here's the hottest horn section and wherever and uh it kind of slows a little like it starts to drag a little in a way that if you were just listening to it at home you'd be like oh this is really good but for a run it starts to feel like it drags a little so that might be the point where i might it is very basically the middle of my playlist where i

would pause i'd slow maybe a little bit there to like gear up for my finish yeah so this next song is the most on the nose song that i have here which is called jungle drum do you know the song is by emiliana torini no okay man we listen to a lot of different stuff uh it's it's got like a moment throughout the song she basically does the sound of her own heartbeat which is like going very very fast it's all about like having a fast heartbeat uh i'll just play something hey i'm in love my fingers keep on clicking to the beating of my heart my heart is beating like a jungle drum oh hell yeah absolutely yeah so those little pauses in there really get me going um and just the the song is all about like i can't stop my feet and yeah it's that's the most on the nose one that i have and that's right at the point where i need it because that's

i'm now halfway done with the run and like it's really if i'm behind like this is where i have to catch up and i'm expecting to be behind and so i need some some sort of motivation like this and then from here on out it was important to me that the songs get a little bit more frenetic and like all these other ones have had like a really good beat to them like a beat that you could run to and the ones following this are more just like they leave the rails a little bit it's like at this point it's chaos i need to get through this and i need help yeah i love how much thought you put into this thank you so much for doing this this is great this is what i wanted so then i did uh fell in love with a girl with by the white stripes which yeah famous song very easy

yeah that really is that's the baby driver uh things have gone wrong part of the movie yes that's definitely i'm gonna improvise and run through this mall now yeah i've at this point form doesn't matter anymore like i've got i'm not uh my breathing how i've chosen to pace my breathing for every step like that no longer matters anymore it's just like we have to get through this as quickly as possible um and then my next to last song my penultimate one is a ween song called I'll be your Johnny on the spot, which I'm confident that you don't know, but it's maybe my favorite fast paced song in the world. And it also has maybe my favorite guitar solo in it, in the world.

And it just, it makes me want to run. It makes me want to move. so that one is fast and it's got this crazy great guitar solo in the middle of it and it's it's a quick song it's like less than two minutes i like like that we both managed to end on songs with a man in a low baritone basically talking at us. And then this last song may at first seem like a dark horse, but I'll tell you exactly why I chose it. You're familiar with Neutral Milk Hotel? Not really, no. I've heard the name before because of Parks and Recreation, but I don't know that I could pick their song

out of a Sonic lineup. They have a... You would recognize them. They've got a very specific sound, and they have an album called Airplane Over the Sea that's maybe like the best conceived album I've ever heard in my life, just as far as what songs follow which songs,

and the tone of the entire album is cohesive anyway this song is called Ghost from that I can hear that being cool. Yeah. There's some theremin in it and stuff like that. Now this song is on here. I was scared that there were so there weren't really drums in the beginning. Oh no,

no, no. You gotta be drums. Yeah. But these are like chaos drums. These aren't like, there's like a good bass pedal that's keeping the beat of the whole thing. It's just like this song essentially like sonically just tears itself apart throughout the entire song and it's the a song that i listen to in my life when i that makes me feel the most

um self-destructive wow yeah and uh it just has this feel of there's like some real sadness in it, but that there are, that I no longer like care about my corporeal form in a very like high concept way where it's just like nothing quite matters. And I think that there's a weird bell curve with running where at the beginning of a run, you have to be,

you want to take care of your body. That's the whole point of going on a run in the first place. And, uh, and while you're on it, you have to then reach a place again, where you don't care about your body anymore in order to push it to the point where it's like, no, it's telling me to stop and I need to force it through this. And so the same way that I imagine when you play football and like you're a linebacker, you like to hit like you are. You have to have such a recklessness and like disregard for your own self-worth that you're willing to throw your body at other human beings. And that's what this song feels like to me. It's it's got a really dark lyrics.

It's got a it's just about somebody dying, but like kind of like realizing that maybe death doesn't matter and it's OK. It's just about somebody dying, but kind of realizing that maybe death doesn't matter and it's okay. But it really starts to destroy itself towards the end. The reason I always pick this song is that there's definite time points in it. I know that when the first horn section, there's a horn interlude in the middle. When that ends, I'm at two minutes away from the end of the song. And then there's another section where there's horns again and when those horns start there's one minute left and i'll just let you hear kind of what happens to the song at that point it's one of those songs that ends in like a big crescendo of just everybody's gonna hit

their instruments as hard as possible including a theremin which i don't even know how you hit it really hard um because you're just playing the air gentle wanding right yeah it's like you're not there's no strings or anything you're just your hand is in the air next to this right angled machine um but it really it everyone's just like pounding away and there's still some cohesiveness to it it's still a song it's not just this crazy cacophony of noise so it holds itself together but it's also just as crazy you can get while still never bursting at the seams yeah and i need that at the very end that's what i want that's really cool that's really interesting that you uh brought up football players because there's a great article in the ringer this week that was trying to dig

into why heath ledgerger's Joker is so popular amongst football players and I thought it would be for like like a like a dumb reason I guess because I in my brain was like putting professional football players as people who'd like stopped growing up when the Dark Knight came out so like like mentally 16 year olds who I, uh, I thought were the people who thought the Joker is really cool, but no,

it's, it's these like softer, more sensitive guys who are like, when I'm on that field, I have to, I have to be big and scary. I have to be chaotic. I have to be not afraid of anything.

I have to be not afraid of Batman and I have to be not afraid of Batman. And I have to be dressed like I'm going to war. So I have Joker tattoos. And I listen to Hans Zimmer's score from that movie. And I think about the Joker. And I play the scene in my head. Sometimes there's a Canadian football player who showed up in Joker makeup to one of his games. And didn't tell anyone about it. And there's like Odell Beckham Jr. had Joker gloves for a while that he would put in front of his face and they looked really

cool. And it's, it's, and it's not just like, again, it's not superficial slapdick. Oh, the chaos guy is cool.

It's really like, I need to get myself. I need to briefly become a different person. I need to transform into this lunatic for, for a couple of hours for my job or i won't be able to do it yeah yeah and you get to a point where do you have nothing to lose you want like you want to at least feel for a minute like you have nothing to lose because that's when you will be at your best athletically yeah um it's also certainly like reading that article i was

fascinated by it and i loved it gave me new perspective for the football players who did it and it also made me think they're better i i can think of nothing more humiliating than for an article to be about like this is who writers think they are when they're writing like no i can't that can't come out do you have specific music that's a soundtrack to writing i think we've talked about this i listen to um tap dancing a lot i listen to a lot of noise stuff that i can't put that don't have lyrics or like that i can't get caught up in lyrics too so i listen to tap dancing and lately i think after it came up in one of our podcasts, I started listening to a Spotify playlist that is like French Cafe, French Cafe Lounge. Oh, interesting. So it's a lot of like French pop music.

So again, I can't get too invested in lyrics and it just like, just like fills my ears with ambient nonsense. Yeah. And I listened to a ton of Wolfpack and other like lo-fi funk. Well, you'll be excited to know that I'm going to listen to a ton of uh wolf pack and other like lo-fi funk well you'll be excited to know that i'm gonna listen to more wolf pack wolf pack wolf wolf pack am i saying that right wolf wolf pack you're getting farther away from it but i've converted a new fan so that's good news yeah so you are there any song i mean i'll obviously i'm taking coyote herd uh away from this are you are there other uh songs from mine that you enjoy yeah definitely that that uh neutral milk hotel which is a great song and also like i might be a guy who likes that band

now we'll see boy that's as far as i know the first of their songs i've ever heard yeah you should um you should give i don't know if it'll be your style or not, but you should give Airplane Over the Sea a chance. That whole album is so, it's so fun to listen to. But it's also very, very sad. And you had some great dance tunes in yours too, that I might not use for running, but will definitely be a part of my life. Yeah, check out Electric Guest guest i think you'll like them i are there any that i'm going through my

list of songs that that didn't make the cut were there any that were really a real bummer to you that i didn't put on there yeah yeah bombs over baghdad bombs are baghdad i thought would have been good um let's see there was i'm gonna i had i can go first because i had okay i also had a janelle monet song on mine i had dance apocalyptic and i love that song it's it's very long and uh or it's not very long but there are there are parts of it that don't go as hard the whole time okay and i had to get rid of it for that reason um i i i thought that i might put on an eddie money song called think i'm in love that it's like it's a i think it's from the early 90s or late 80s and it's a very cheesy song but it's also one that i i like dancing to and i as i was listening to it i was like you know what it's

just a dance song like it just it's just a fun song to like oh we're at a wedding like this is a great wedding song and it doesn't have what i need for a run in it and it just didn't have a place on my list i also there's an old offspring song called taran and offspring obviously is a little dated at this point but yeah taran is like a fast great fun song yeah was, there were songs that I wanted to put in just for like the vague idea of branding. Like I wanted to put in something from Broadway there. Something like undeniably musical theater. Jason Robert Brown comes close. But I wanted like the prologue to Little Shop of Horrors.

Oh, yeah. But I still like, I couldn couldn't i couldn't do it like the the idea of it being very funny to me that one of these songs one of the songs that pumped me up is fucking alan menken the idea of it didn't trump the fact that the prologue starts with the narrator setting the scene and telling you what's happening i just can't i can't run while the guy is like on the 21st day of september i am actually surprised that like sonic the hedgehog casino night zone isn't on um but no it's good it means you got an earnest honest list yeah i looked at a close your eyes and count to fuck that's a run the jewels song that's got zach de la rocha on it it's like a fast cool song but it's just not it wasn't right

wasn't right the name is close your eyes and count to fuck yeah close your eyes parentheses and count to fuck that is so funny that's great but that was a fun one this was a blast yeah all right um i don't know if there's a way that we can like share our playlist share our playlist but if we can we'll do that yeah you know what when this episode is released you can just put our spot playlist on, like just tweet it. And the whole playlist will be there. Yeah. No.

You're not going to do that. No. Okay. All right. I mean, you don't have to. I'm going to, what I do is I do this thing where when a new episode is released,

occasionally I will advertise it. I will say. We released an episode of the podcast those tweets when you do that those tweets do numbers or no oh boy do they tank and you know it's like my like twitter's allergic to them like after that if i tweet something it's like that my engagement and spread just isn't what it used to be yeah it's like you they're expecting me to get a certain amount and if i don't they're like oh this guy's putting out some stinkers now and they just like don't even bother sending it to half his audience give it give it give it to 10 people you got to do one of those things where you do like you tweet about dune or something like

that and then you gotta do one of those things like tweet about dune yeah you gotta tweet you do one of those things like tweet about dune and then when that does numbers when that's dune great as they say then you reply to that with like, hey, this is blowing up. Listen to my shit podcast. That's actually a great idea. I'm going to do a tweet that I know will not be successful. I'm great at those, by the way. And then underneath it

be like, this blew up. Also check out my podcast. And check out this 24-minute speed run I created. Everybody, you can follow Daniel at speed run I created. All right. Well, everybody, you can follow Daniel at DOB underscore Inc on Twitter. You can follow me, Soren underscore LTD.

I will tweet both of our playlists when this episode is released. Tight. And you can follow Quick Question at QQ underscore Soren and Dan. You can email us at QQ with Soren and Daniel at gmail.com. And you can find out more someday about our sound engineer

and our editor and our producer, Gabe Harder at gabeharder.com. Thanks, everybody. I wonder what Gabe listens to when he edits this podcast. I bet he's a – well, I know he knows Talking Heads. I think that he's a i bet he well i know he knows talking heads i think that he's a talking heads fan but i i i would peg gabe as a neutral milk hotel fan yeah is that wrong gabe no i'm a huge neutral milk hotel fan oh hell yeah also a big head automatica fan all right hey the overlap there's the venn diagram overlap it It's Gabe. All right, bye. All right, bye.