Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - We Could Land a Helicopter

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

The guys acknowledge their most audacious beliefs of self-efficacy, from landing a helicopter in crisis to dentistry. Plus, Daniel is back on a bike for the first time in years! We debuted a new theme song for Patreon? You can check it out and get two bonus episodes a month at www.patreon.com/quickquestion.Thanks to Factor for sponsoring this episode. Go to www.FACTORMEALS.com/qq50 and use code qq50 to get 50% off your 1st box plus 20% off your next month while your subscription is active!

I've got a quick, quick question for you, alright? I wanna hear your thoughts, I wanna know what's on your mind I've got a quick, quick question for you, alright? The answer's not important, I'm just glad that we could talk tonight So what's your favorite? Who did you get? When do I be remembered? What's it up with? Where did all the good weeks go? Oh, forget it

Saw a movie, Daniel O'Brien Two best friends and comedy writers If there's an answer, they're gonna find it I think you'll have a great time here I think you'll have a great time here of how to fight presidents with daniel o'brien and once again bike boy daniel o'brien joined as always by my co-host mr soren bowie soren say hello hey everybody i'm the low energy god you you waited to be introduced to take a sip of coffee yeah or chocolate milk i don't know what you got in there i was demonstrating my energy level okay

that it was gonna not match yours so that i could also be the little sock puppet guy who's also very low energy and i thought that would be a fun thing to try uh for our for our more visual watchers uh that i was gonna be like what what does this low energy sock puppet guy look like uh-huh and then i, now you've answered that question, and how do you feel about it? Like a C? C? C plus? Pass him, baby! C's got degrees.

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So, Daniel, let's get on to the most important stuff. On to the meat. You're biking again. Yes, I got on a bike. So, long-time listeners know that I had a vaguely traumatic bike accident in 2019, December. I fell off my bike on the way to church in Los Angeles and broke my wrist pretty bad. There's a scar. There's a big chunk of, there's like a 12 inch piece of metal and 28 screws or so in my wrist. And I'd been on stationary bikes since then but not gotten on like an actual physical bike that is powered by my movements and part of it was just like

I was living in New York and didn't want to get on a bike because that's a scary place to get on a bike in general and other parts of it was just like I don't know it slipped my mind I wasn't I didn't own a bike and wasn't thinking of of getting one and then the more time went by the more time it was like oh boy the last time I got on a bike was wasn't thinking of getting one. And then the more time went by, the more time it was like, oh boy, the last time I got on a bike was when I got in an accident. And now it's been two years or three years. That certainly seems like I'm avoiding it, but I don't know that I ever was actually consciously avoiding it.

Right. But finally, yeah, it didn't come up, but the weather is wonderful here and we're in a very bike-friendly town. So we decided to get bikes. And we first picked up some bikes from a friend of ours because we didn't know if we wanted to spend... Like, if I got on a bike and was just terrified, then that was going to be a wash, no reason to spend money. So we had like a trial run of getting bikes. And as soon as I got the bikes home to my apartment and I had my new helmet that I bought on the way to get the bikes and I was just gonna put air in the tires and then ride the bike to the bike rack in the parking lot and I was like

let me just let me ride it to the bike rack and let me ride around the parking lot I don't want Shay to see me just yet I don't let me just like just do this just to see if I can get on it and within seconds I was like this is very easy there's i i have no trauma memories associated with this whatsoever riding a bike is easy i rule at this and then i it was time to stop instead of breaking like a normal person i swung my right leg over the bike so i could have two legs on one side and like run alongside the bike for a little bit as like my imagination, a cool way to stop. And I fell and ate shit immediately doing that stupid trick. Didn't hurt. I was totally fine.

But as I was falling in the parking lot, knowing my helmet was in the car, I thought, if this was a worse accident and I died, who would even come to my funeral? found out she wouldn't be allowed to say she would have to make something up yeah and and like he went to war yeah and we would never know how stupid I was because like the police would show up and like this just doesn't make any sense why would he get on a bike with his helmet in the car why would he crash at the bike rack i don't understand something must have happened yeah the the same way you've got the bullet project trajectory detective there but there's like a bike trajectory detective and

they're like okay i can i'm from like the way that this bike fell it's clear that he jumped off of the bike while it was moving um right no one falls off a bike this way. He has two legs crushed on one side under the bike. So I think someone killed him and staged it poorly to make it look like an impossible bike accident. He has gotten the outside calf of his right leg tangled in the bike chain. Yeah. Okay. Well, Daniel, just listened to the story.

I'm thinking in my head that I'm jealous that you are. You exercise a real degree of patience with yourself that I don't possess. And I like that. I wish that I had more of that. You were going to get the bike and you were like, and now let's just take it in steps. Let's like, I don't know how I'm going to respond. Maybe I'll respond. steps let's like i don't know how i'm gonna respond maybe i'll respond i don't think i'm gonna respond in a different way but i want to give myself the space to freak out if that happens

and so i'm gonna just ride the bike 15 feet like i none of that would have ever occurred to me i would have been like you get back on that bike you fucking baby get back what you think something's gonna go wrong it's only gonna go wrong if you stay off the butt like i would be so cruel to myself just in my own head feel any better i went six years without riding a bike and then in the span of a weekend rode about 28 miles jesus like it was it was there there was like the the very, let me learn how to ride a bike again on Friday. And then we did a nine mile round trip that night. And then a few more miles on that Saturday.

And with two days of biking under my belt, I was like, I'm ready to bike again. And we bought bikes Sunday morning and then did another, uh, 12 or 13 miles or so on Sundayay with our new bikes here okay biking is one of those things like um going to wine country that i just think is probably not for me i bike as a way to get from a to b i like that i like using it as a tool and i like i take it like i'll ride it to

the gym i'll take it my kids on it if like i nothing else to do with them and i need to like we need to get outside. But I've been on trips before. I've been to weddings and stuff where they're like, and the next day you guys can go biking. And we did that. And as I'm doing it, I'm thinking, I'm getting nothing from this. Well, we do the same. Everything was a destination.

It was like, we're going to go to my brother's campsite because he was camping nearby. And then we went to a friend's house. We went to restaurants like it's all i like it as a means of transportation and getting somewhere i think if i'm gonna do an exercise that gets me nowhere i'm gonna run every day of the week 100 of the time yes but you do bike because i do the thing that i've i've learned um i'm either biking wrong or i need to get a new something for it because uh my tailbone has been in tremendous pain every day all the time oh and i think maybe i'm not supposed to sit on the bike the whole time maybe i'm supposed to have my ass up in the air or maybe i'm supposed to get those those stupid shorts that have a little butt cushion built into it okay or maybe i need a better seat i mean it's a brand new bike with a with a normal seat i can't imagine that bikes are designed uh

with like intentional obsolescence that as soon as you get it the seat needs to be replaced for the more comfortable seat there's so it must be me doing something wrong no it's not a so you bike nine miles on your first day and you hadn't been on a bike in that in like three years so it's not a brand new bike it's a brand new you like your body is not designed to be on a bicycle because it hasn't done it in so long like you spend a little bit of time off a bike and then you get on it weird things start happening where like i get like um like a weird like what you're like after being on a bike numbness in my taint because that's the part that's like straddling the front of that bike seat and it's getting vibrated so much that eventually at the end it's just like humming on its own and i'm like

i don't like this um and then also i know what you mean like that tailbone thing is that your body's just not used to it you basically i don't want to call it a callous but like you build up some sort of tolerance to that from biking over and over again and then it's not an issue anymore if you're wrong about that i might paralyze myself because i really just feel like i'm sitting right on the bone and wearing it down i don't know that i'm when you're going over bumps and stuff is it hurting i mean at this point after the initial nine miles getting on the bike hurts just like getting into position hurts and sometimes just like sitting on the hard ground now hurts okay i'm sitting on a on a pillow

at the moment okay so it's possible wait is this like a a fixie like are you do you only have one speed on this bike or is it a bunch of different speeds i think i have um 21 speeds on this bike okay so you're positioning on like a fix you're like a townie bike like you're pretty far back like you're just like the handlebars are so high and everything it puts you in a position where you basically have a straight back and yeah yeah and you look a little silly on those bikes on a mountain bike or a bike that's like a road bike you're more inclined uh you're like leaning forward more and that should protect as long as you're not like sitting straight up on it and you're kind of like leaning forward i don't even think your tailbone

should really be touching it i think i've diagnosed the problem i'm sitting perfectly straight up the entire time that i'm biking and i think possibly that's the wrong move that's what i was that's why i was asking about like do i need to just hover over the bike seat the entire time? No, no. Because you'll you'll cash your legs out immediately if you try to do that. Yeah. Here's my suggestion. If you don't, if you still want to keep sitting straight up, that's fine.

But scoot your butt back on the seat. So the tailbone is not on the seat anymore. Yeah. So you're like your your butthole's doing all the lift like the heavy lifting on the seat and then they then it's not even touching that might help but it that that is a surprise to me that it's like you can't even sit down in a chair right now i mean i figured it was because i was doing something wrong no one is supposed to have this much pain from riding a bike a week out still yeah you're but you're with me though that people suggest bike riding is like a great way to see a city as like or a countryside

or a beach or whatever and like you just ride along it do you i i get nothing from that experience because you're going i want to focus on the bike if i'm on a bike i'm going to be focusing on that i'm not going to be like leisurely riding and looking off to the sides because i hate that type of person i know that that type of person meanders and like is going to be a problem in the street so i want to ride i really have i i agree with you we're on the same page on that i have uh a runner's mentality with it where we went to go visit my brother and sister-in-law and their kids at their campsite and then we were riding back at dusk it's a very pretty ride sun is setting everything is nice and i am booking it my fiance is like looking at things and and stopping and

taking pictures and like being present and i'm just just a quarter mile ahead of her just thinking like the faster we go the faster we get home and we're done with this part of the yeah of the workout it's the the transportation part it's not just like they always say it's not about the journey it's about the destination everyone says that everyone says that i am the same way with uh driving i'm the same way with walking like hiking i'm the same way it's part of the reason like i'm done with a fucking hike a mile before i'm done because yeah on a hike people are like they're hiking and looking around and i'm like watch the trail yeah that's the important part get up and down the trail if you want at the end we're gonna be a waterfall or something like that then we can kind of look around and stuff but this is not the fun part this is the part where we get through it and then we get to the fun when my brother and i did uh the pebby joesset loop up in the the northeast it was like 32

miles and it's uh depending on how many offshoots you do it's between 9 and 11 summits you're going like up and down it's a lot um some lunatics do it like in one day they can like run it and gun it and go like, like silly people. Our plan initially was to do like a very leisurely, let's do this in three days and not put on too many miles and like get a lot of the, the, the views in. And like, if you're going to be doing these summits, you're at the top of these mountains, sit and look and appreciate it.

And then the first night as we sat down to camp having done 14 or 15 miles we're both like i think we can knock this out in two days i don't think we need the third the third night i think we just i really if we just like close our eyes we can really sprint through this majestic place there's there's a couple of um peaks like that that are ranges in colorado where it's like you've got a couple of 13 000 foot peaks in a row or whatever 12 and and you can bag them all at once because you're just walking along the ridge and yeah the plan that my friend and i had was like we were going to get to the last ridge at sunrise and it was the highest of them and it couldn't have been a better idea for us because we're doing the first two in the dark and i was like this is how it should be done

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while your subscription is active. Do it! Speaking of stubbornly doing impossible things, So things so i got a quick question for you if you're ready to get into the show shoot um what is something bold or audacious that you've never done before that you're pretty confident you could do and we've talked about this uh in the past in terms of like jobs a job that you could fake your way through but this is like a more specific thing and i'm going to tell you my way into it how this occurred to me that i was having a lovely sunday with my fiance the weather was perfect wasn't too hot wasn't too cold we were outside uh at the the water on a dock there's like a tiki bar near us

there was a guy outside playing guitar and singing dream a little dream of me and as the sun is going down there's the river there's boats going by there's like literal i'm not making this up literal swans a pair of swans are swimming by as we're just sitting here taking all of this in did their heads have a little heart together they did not oh they they uh uh they hissed like the horrible goblins they are while they were incredibly violent underwater which is what all swans are doing at all times but we're there and enjoying this perfect day and uh shay is asking me what is what's on your mind she's like so what do you what are you thinking about right now

and i was like it's it's dumb she's like no what do you what are you thinking about what's on your mind i'm pretty sure if i needed to i could fly a helicopter yeah she was like yeah what i was like not just like in an emergency situation if i needed to get you out of somewhere, I could totally fly a fucking helicopter. I could, like, she's like, what are you talking about? I was like,

well, if, like, I don't think we could do it. I don't think I could do a boat right now. Or I don't think I could take us away on a plane. Certainly I couldn't do a plane. But if, like, we needed to flee and there was a helicopter, I bet I could do it.

You could take it off. That's what you're thinking? It was like, yes, that is exactly what I was thinking. And I thought this thought is, it shouldn't just exist to ruin this romantic day. It should also become fodder for the podcast. So I was wondering what you thought. It's so funny. As soon as you said what is something

completely audacious that you think you could do my first thought was i could land a plane i could do it it's i think you're getting a lot of help like you're getting a lot of feedback from ground control or whatever i don't know what they call it that's what they call it when it's not space but like yeah i i can i you've got one thing to worry about. Like it's, and they're going to be like, you're coming in too hot. No, no, no. You're too, you're, you're flat. You're flat.

Like you just find that right space. I feel like I could do that fairly easily, but I have another one that I think I'm even more confident that I could do. And that is deliver a baby. Wow. Yeah. I also had like vague that is deliver a baby. Wow. Yeah. I also had like vague doctor stuff on my list. Really?

Because you have so many helpers around. And I thought like to catch me if you can scene where he just needs to like actually be a doctor and do a thing. There's part of me that is like, someone is going to come up with a little tray that has all the tools that I'm supposed to need for this appendectomy. And I could probably figure it out. I mean, if you're in a hospital scenario, then it's a piece of cake. Because you know how to ask the right question without it seeming like you don't know the answer.

That's like a skill set that you have. And so you could be, you're going to have other people there that are like residents who are there with you guaranteed or you're gonna even have nurses who are like interested and you're gonna be like what should i do first like you're testing them basically and they're like okay well first i would make the incision you're like bingo yeah and i'm gonna do it right here i'm like, this is a diabetes foot. I don't think you should cut up. I think you should start at the abdomen. And you're like, ah, gotcha.

Okay. We're just going to go like fully from top to bottom, from head to toe. Yeah. I wanted to see everything. But I think even like in a home scenario or in a car scenario i could deliver a baby and i'm so certain of it that when when my wife almost gave birth in our house i was like fucking here we go yeah i've got this you just walk over and pretend to call the hospital like Like, they're busy. It's crazy. Yeah, they weren't answering. I just got the message machine.

I don't know. They said they're closed. What should we do? Should I just do it? Should you just call me doctor? There is strategy to it. Like, there's a way to do it. You have to know when they're in active labor, first of all.

That's a big deal. But also, like, within the pushing and the contractions, when you start to see head, there's certain places where you're supposed to put pressure so that so that nothing tears and then there's a way once the head starts to come out that you have to twist the baby because one shoulder has to come out at a time and it has to come out in a very particular way i read about it in a mayo clinic book when I was, my wife was first pregnant because I did everything when my wife was first pregnant. Not for her. That doesn't mean like I was I did everything that was conceivable for me to have done to prepare for this baby because I had no calibration for what was a threat and what wasn't so i was like doing it all and that's generally

how i live my life like when i don't understand a thing i'm gonna get it all done and so i i read that thing from tip to tail and i was like certain and like practicing like i know how to i know how to i think i could deliver a baby i've read enough about it and to this day like that stuff is still in my brain and i'm pretty confident in a car or something like that i would be like i could do this i could do this yeah which is honestly how you have to go into it when you're delivering a baby like you gotta go and think and you can i think most doctors who deliver babies are probably in the same boat where they're like oh fuck okay i could do this i have seen this before i got this you gotta believe in yourself that's the first step to delivering a child they tell you that in obgyn school my thought process for the helicopter was they

they meaning the designers of helicopters they don't want this to be difficult to operate i don't think there's like tremendous benefit in making this hard and i think part of my confidence was like like flying helicopters is uh like plenty of people do it for for their jobs but it's also famously like a wealthy person's pursuit it's like harrison ford who has more money than god who's just like i'm into helicopters so i want to learn helicopters there are so many millionaires and billionaires who just like add that to their list of things that they could do and that tells me it's probably not hard. It's just the barrier to entry is the time and money factor for learning. And so I think, again, this is based on nothing. I think because I've decided that it's going to have a pretty intuitive design and functionality, I can just give me a couple of seconds and i'll look at the buttons

that look like start the thing and start the thing and then i know you've got this like joystick that is you're moving the the guy around and like how you've been arcade it's not a plane there aren't like flaps there aren't multiple engines and little like things that i need to raise or lower the propeller goes and then i make the helicopter move around and i feel the wind and i just fucking cruise i honestly think once you get off the ground you are you're golden like i think you're right i think so yeah the pros of this obviously are you're not worrying about wheels going up and down you just got those runners on the bottom and you get as soon as you get a little bit of lift you're you're good man

i feel like you i believe in you my one concern is that there are so many switches in a i'm just thinking like in succession when they accidentally start a helicopter and like there are all kinds of up all like over their heads there's like you're not just working on one plane where it's like a dashboard like there's stuff above you you got to be fiddling with and i know i'll figure it out though but i'm just concerned there's like gonna be you're gonna get in there and you're like well let's see what the buttons are labeled rlc okay okay that's not helpful i watched a youtube video once of a guy who was like an incredibly good helicopter pilot with one other person in his whirlybird. And they lost power. They lost something.

They were going down. And the pilot knew they needed to make an emergency landing. And he was like, he's exactly what you want him to be. He is the calmest guy in the world and he's like okay we're we're falling now we've lost our engine so we're gonna and they're like going into a canyon so he's like what i'm gonna try to do is i'm gonna try to land over there you see that he's pointing to like yards and yards away like a very far away place but he's like i'm gonna land there because i can't land over there because uh that water might be too deep and those might be rocks. And if we land on this thing,

then that's going to fuck up this thing. That's going to screw this up. And the guy in the passenger seat of the chopper is like, I trust you. I can tell that I am with the best person in the world to be doing this. And the pilot is every step of the way describing what he's doing and then landing perfectly on this like chunk of sand inside this canyon and i'm watching this video with a mental checklist of like yep that's what i do too uh-huh yeah no you don't want to land on the rocks obviously can't land on the rocks not waters is dumb yeah sand probably sand for me too probably i do on the soft sand and i would uh i would be confident and comfortable and i would not make

it too rocky when i landed because you don't want to make anyone sick or anything but yep yep this everything this guy does that checks out that's what i was my my side of the helicopter that was a good choice not to land on sideways that was nice some guys probably would have tried to turn around not me and this guy though we know we know how to land a helicopter the the part that scares me about it is that you're not just working with one propeller you've got um your y-axis propeller on the back that little tiny one that i've seen stuff happen in in movies where like that one gets out of control and it starts whipping you around and i and i don't know how to how to get out of that at that i wouldn't let that happen

oh that's a good idea yeah that's probably best i would i'm gonna let it happen a little because uh how am i gonna learn otherwise but i think what i like thinking about daniel is that you can get off the ground i have no i i believe that you could get off the ground in a helicopter then when you're flying and you've got it figured out and you're dealing with wind currents and you've got that all handled i like thinking about when you have to land the helicopter and like what you're gonna say to shay because are you gonna be like listen we don't know how this is gonna like it's fun it's fun we're having a good time right now we're gonna have to land i love you oh this may be the last we'll see each other i think so i i have thought about this also because

landing is definitely the the the in my opinion the hardest part of flying a helicopter it's got to be landing it and so in this scenario i've uh taken us away from whatever disaster we're fleeing and uh i'm i'm prepping her for how we're going to exit this helicopter, which is we're going to go over some safe water and I'm going to get the helicopter to a nice, like, chill hover zone and then she's going to open her door and jump out of the helicopter while it's still floating. Oh, I don't know if that's a good idea.

Because, like, this isn't... You understand, I stole this helicopter while it's still floating. Oh, I don't know if that's a good idea. You understand, I stole this helicopter. It's not mine. I'm not worried about having it forever. I don't know where the fuel goes. So, this is a one-trip thing for us. And she's going to jump out, and that's great.

And then, I'm going to just leave it running a little bit, and then I'm also going to dip out and just jump. And the helicopter will like, like leave it running a little bit and then i'm also gonna dip out and just jump and and the helicopter will like i i like either just i don't know stop dead in the air and drop on top of us or like continue forward or continue up who knows maybe i'll i'll i'll have the the foresight to bring um like a brick with me and the brick i'll put on like the gas pedal just as i'm about to jump out of the helicopter i don't think there's a gas pedal i think you guys are gonna get chopped in

half if you try to do that i think you gotta know i'm gonna say i'm gonna say duck low i'm gonna say like oh that's a good idea oh yeah avoid the the the the fan your head down that's the way you yeah um i think it's a much further jump than you think and but and i don't know that the helicopter hovers without somebody in it that would be cool though to like just come across a helicopter and be like oh shit nobody's in this one if i could just find a way up in i could take it and then i don't have to worry about the taking off part um and then everyone could just communal helicopters you know one has to worry about taking off or landing because they're all just hovering around this is a win-win-win i so okay i i get i get the thought process i get that you think you could just like bail

like a car going off a cliff like you could just tumble out yeah like getting in you're you're escaping some sort of bad situation which is like in my mind i'm assuming it's the fall of saigon right it's that's the only time i've seen a helicopter in a bad situation that needs to leave something in real life and you are you're dealing with that too so whatever the problem is is right there if it's a forest fire it's creating a lot of crazy wind if it's people they're gonna be grabbing on yeah that's the part that's really tough in my mind in terms of like getting away from you're getting shot at i don't know what it is no in my head it's natural disaster it's it's fire or it's like there is um maybe tsunami coming not like a huge storm because i don't think i could i could i know

i could fly a helicopter i don't think i could fly it in the rain yeah or like or like big big winds right but like the things falling apart in the earth and was like i need to this is um john cusack roland emmerich's 2012 the things are just like falling and i have access to a helicopter so let me get in that and take it away somewhere else yeah and it's and it's daytime like it was in that movie so it's good yeah i also oh that's crucial i can't i can't fly at night yeah uh that's that's how i feel when uh i'm in a actually in a plane in a jet and it's cloudy and we're about we're gonna land and we're like in a cloud for a little bit i'm like it's good that this isn't this isn't the time that i'm landing it yeah because i i don't know how to

do this part this is scary yeah i know nobody can see anything no and it would be rude for them to make you land the plane that way it's awful yeah no on my first time my first try that's no don't let anyone bully you into landing a plane in clouds i'm not gonna do it same giving uh delivering a baby i don't i don't do it on cloudy days no of course not because you can't see anything yeah i mean i could i i don't want to do it in the rain certainly she's in a car and she's like i mean i'm a gentleman i will give her the back seat but i'm gonna try and get my head underneath the roof because i don't want to be out there in the cold and rain when i'm trying to deliver a baby you don't want me sick for this job i'm the hero i'm the one who's gonna save the

day yeah all right i think i believe in you i think you could fly a helicopter if you needed I'm the hero. I'm the one who's going to save the day. Yeah. Alright. I believe in you. I think you could fly a helicopter if you needed to. Thank you. I have no further elaboration on this, but I also think I could probably do some light dental work. I've been to the dentist enough times that I'm just like, if they call me in...

You're the hygienist? Because I'm really close with my hygienist at this point. If she's like, listen, I have to take a phone call. This next kid is super easy. Normal amount of teeth. Just, could you take care of this one for me?

I'd be like, Judy, of course I can. Take your phone call. Take two phone calls. Live your fucking life. Give me the horrible spiky hook and and take your shoes off i've got the rest of this you're ready for your dentist ride along yeah 100 she'll give you the easy ones i i think that hygienist stuff is like yeah i could scratch somebody's teeth for

a little bit and yeah i'm sure that if i got i've lost flossed my kids so I can, I've been inside somebody else's mouth. Like I've taken a little look around in there and you do get, you can see where food is and you get a mirror. Like you get that little mirror to help in the hard to reach places. And if it's going bad, you just got to shake your head and be like,

you got to floss. Like even if you're fucking up, like you're like stabbing them in the gums with that spike and you're like, oh, you got to floss. Every dentist ever has like, you gotta floss. Like, even if you're fucking up. Like, you're, like, stabbing him in the gums with that spike. And you're like, ooh, you gotta floss. Every dentist ever has, like, has punctured my gums and been like, you know, this never would have happened if you'd flossed.

That was your fault. I think that's part of it, dentist. I think... Yeah, they never go, ooh, whoops. I'm a big enough man to admit my role in this. Now, you, please. That is just gaslighting you. The whole 45 minutes that you're in that chair, they're like, anytime they hurt you, they're like, you made me do this.

Right. And once again, I crushed this. I absolutely nailed this 100%. And the fact that you're spitting up blood that is that is that's your fault carelessness on your part now excuse me i'm gonna deposit this jagged hook somewhere out of sight and always whenever that thing is in my mouth it's like i mean let's be honest you're scratching bone with metal i'm like there's got to be a better way i can feel them in there like scratching i'm like this feels irreparable you're i can tell you're doing damage to the tooth by scratching it with this metal thing

right and i just don't trust that not just my dentist but like that anyone is as accurate as this tool needs you to be like it's just it's you're trying to get in between teeth with a single metal hook and like some of my teeth are a little a little small i'm not too embarrassed about that and you've you've got such a small window of mouth just like let me just get this get this hook in there there's no way every dentist nails it 100 of the time you're gonna slip no one's hands are that steady yeah and it's it's it's tooth and then around it is the most sensitive part of your body this fleshy vulnerable sensitive part of your body and you've got a big like a hooked knife in there like yeah you're gonna you're gonna get it you're

gonna get that gums and be like oh it didn't go great i'll get the next one i'll get a mouth a mouth that's like constantly moving a little bit like you're breathing you're trying to swallow things or you might like wince if if you get stabbed that's and not to not to mention that big wriggling muscle in the middle of it that's constantly getting in the way. And I don't know what to do with my tongue. I'm trying to be accommodating as much as I can. I'm trying to swallow it if I could. But, like, I know that it's in the fucking way sometimes.

Yeah. And they will tell me, they're like, could you just, could you move your tongue? I was like, normally, yeah, but for some reason in this context, no. Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, no. It doesn't, it's gone off leash. I don't know, I can't control it anymore. Doc, I'm telling you, when you're not here, I could do like shapes with it and stuff,

but right now it's panicking and it's gone completely rogue. All right, I got a question for you, Daniel. Go for it. It's going to be a quick one. Okay. It's got to be really engaging because there's so much stuff for me to play with around me right now. I think that was smart of you.

And I'm going to lose focus. Okay. I honestly think it was smart of you to have something to fidget with because I think you're a better listener when you've got something. Mm-hmm. you've got something. Mm-hmm. Your... What is your dog's night schedule?

Like, what time do you have to wake up for your dog? I wake up every day at 6 o'clock in the morning. I don't necessarily need to get him out at 6am. If I'm up and I'm like ready for the day, then I will go and take him out. And he really, at this age, it kind of varies. If it's been a late night and I don't get up until nine, he will roll with that.

He is not going to be like whining or scratching at the door. He's just, you know, he's got himself under control at this point he's a good good old thing and he knows that it's morning time and sometimes i'll get up at like 5 45 because i have to pee and i'll walk out of my bedroom and he'll see me and he'll get out of his bed and i'll say no it's not time yet and then he'll go right back to his bed and then i'll come out a little bit later and actually take him out so he at no point in your life with him did he dictate your sleep schedule no maybe uh no i don't think he did i think sometimes uh my parents watch him and they sleep in a whole lot more than i do and they have told me that sometimes they'll hear him

like patting around outside of their bedroom door and making a few noises uh but that's that's about it he's generally aware that i'm gonna reliably take him out in morning time and morning time varies between like 6 and 8 30 or 9 and he's not at the latest that's i want that i i assumed i assumed you would be in the same boat that i was i assumed every pet owner was like you're getting woken up in the morning by your animal because they're like regardless if it's a dog it's like listen dude i i've been holding it for a while and i gotta pee you gotta get me outside um And, but, so let me give you my scenario. I have

a cat and it's a cat that's an indoor-outdoor cat. So you say. It's an indoor-outdoor cat, which means that during the day, it goes off to a job or something. I don't know what it's doing. It's leaving in the morning because it's got business and then it comes back in the evening. And sometimes in the

middle of the day, it'll come home for lunch or whatever. But this cat is constantly trying to push the limits of when it's allowed to go outside. And I'm not going to let it out any earlier than dawn because I'm worried about coyotes. And I don't want it getting eaten in the middle of the night or scooped up. Because this cat also refuses to wear a collar has lost like 16 collars and so i don't want someone to be like astray and taking it home so i've got a window where i like i'm willing to let this cat outside and it's a little earlier in the summer than it is in the winter but this fucking cat pushes it all the time. Where if I'm letting this cat out at 5 in the morning,

it's going to be like, well, what about 4.30 today? Could you let me out at 4.30 today? And I'm like, all right, I'll do 4.30 today. And then the next day it's like, what about 3.30? And I'm like, no, that's like a whole hour. No. And the way that this cat... Do you let it out at night before bed?

Or is it just when it comes back, it's outside time is done? At night, too. This cat knows to be back in around 11. Like, it's going to, like clockwork, it's good at knowing that schedule. It knows that it needs to be back around a certain time because that's when we're going to bed. But getting up in the morning, it's going to fucking test me every single day. And my wife, too. And it loves my wife a lot more because she gives a lot more attention so it's really like on her a

lot of times in the morning where the cat will come up and sit on her face or whatever and cats are just dickheads so like this cat doesn't meow which is great i i'll get that's gonna go in the pro category but or the pro list but this cat will slam our bathroom our bedroom door we'll shut our bedroom door as hard as it can so it makes noise and then it will it knows that it within the when it's shut it has like a little bit of movement to it it'll just move the door so that it goes like rattles on the the hinges and we'll scratch at the door from the inside and move it. So just trying to make as much noise as possible so that we will get up. So I was like, I'm not going to cave to this cat. This happened two nights ago.

I was like, I'm not going to cave to this cat because it's getting up at three in the morning. And it's like, I want to go out. And I'm like, we're not doing that. I don't want you to die. It would be a problem with neighbors if I had to explain that. it would be a problem with neighbors if i had to explain that so i'm going to instead i'm gonna i'm gonna do everything i can to keep you from moving this door so like i get the cat out of the room also the cat as soon as i get up to put it out will hide underneath the bed so that i can't reach it like it's trash yeah and then if i try to like go to the other side of the bed it

will move over just to the other side just out of reach so be like no i try to like go to the other side of the bed it will move over just to the other side just out of reach so be like no i want her to do it the other one make her do it and if i get a hold of this cat like it's not happy about it uh and we'll like do it make these noises as it's trying to bite me. And I, so I get up in the morning. This cat's up at three. I grab it and put it outside the room. And then I shut the door.

And then I put a 12 pound weight on the other side of the door just to like keep the door from rattling. And the hinge is like up against it. But then the cat's like getting a hand up underneath the door and like just scratching the door just making noise on the door so i was like okay i go back outside the room and now my plant like now that i'm up and now that i'm like my brain is working and everything i'm thinking this cat is making me miserable i my only goal here is to also make this cat miserable during this time.

Whatever plan it has, I'm going to thwart it. So I go outside. I get big pillows and put them up against the door on the other side so that the cat can't get enough to the door. Like tall pillows. And then I put the weight down. And I'm like, salt. Did it. The cat.

That's so much. You're doing so much to prove that the cat does not control you. Yeah. I'm trying to dominate the cat. I'm like, I'm going to win. That's all in my brain is I'm going to win. And the problem is, is that cats are also that they're wired that way. The cat is like, no, I'm going to win. And the problem is, is that cats are also that they're wired that way. The cat is like,

no, I'm going to win. And so I'm, I go to back to sleep for like 15 minutes and then there's rattling at the door again. I'm like, how, how?

And so I opened the door. I don't know how the cat does did this. The cat has pulled the pillows away from the door to rattle it. I don't know if she bit it and dragged him away or what, but like big pillows dragged him away like prey. And, and then like started rattling the door again. So I was like,

that's, that's it. I opened the door again. Cat comes running in, gets underneath the bed. I'm like, I'm going to kill this cat. So like I find the cat.

I finally get ahold of it and get it out, out the door. And I go get a spray bottle from downstairs and i shut the door again put the pillows up shut the door again put the weight down and i'm like okay if this happens again i'm just gonna make this cat miserable and if it pulls them away again and i see it doing again i reach underneath the door with the spray bottle and give it a little spray on the legs. Like when the hero in a gunfight ducks underneath a car and shoots the bad guy in the leg. You're like, yeah, that was a good move.

And so cat does the same thing again. And so I get under there and I give it a little spray. By the way, let me explain that my cat does not need to pee. It doesn't need anything. It doesn't need anything. It's got a litter box inside. It's got food. It can play all it wants.

We got toys in the downstairs. It just wants us to be awake. Like wants us to be awake and kind of wants to go outside, but more or less just wants us awake. So I spray it and it does not like that. It freaks out. Oh, of course. And then I sit there and wait. I don't get back in bed.

I just sit there and wait. Cause I'm like, he's, it's going to, she's going to try it again. Cause you're in charge, right? I'm in charge. I'm going to, in two and a half hours, I'm going to get some sleep. And so I'm like waiting and just lying on the floor in my room at 3 45 in the morning with the spray bottle waiting and i can see the movement out there and eventually she comes back and she puts a paw under the door and i get that paw now because

now the paws underneath the door and i spray the paw oh did not like that at all and honestly from that point on cat didn't bother us to like 7 15 in the morning that's great i won as you're just as sure as you're describing this this whole elaborate setup of weights and pillows it does yeah remind me that like we don't we don't want jackson on on the couch ever because it's it's a nice couch that we like and uh it's very easy to keep him off the couch when we are in the living room and sitting on the couch but we also want to make sure he doesn't go in there when we're away or when we're sleeping so we will push the coffee table up against the couch to make it difficult for him to jump over it and get on it we move pillows around because he likes to get not just on a couch but like on top of pillows on the couch we'll move

those around and we'll put like uh our laptop uh like the little wooden thing that you rest a computer on on your lap the tray put those on yeah little little trays and any other like hard things we can find to put on the couch that won't be comfortable for him to get on and as we're doing this sometimes at like 11 45 at night as i'm so tired dragging a coffee table over and like setting up a bunch of mousetrap style obstacles that i'm gonna have to undo first thing in the morning so i can sit on the couch when I read my book and drink my coffee. I was like, is this, is this really so much better than having him sit on the couch?

Is it possible that he's winning the larger game of making my life worse? The problem with the cat is that that's her stated goal. Like she's not like like she just likes to be somewhere a little bit better her stated goal is like ah i'm gonna i'm just gonna annoy you for a little bit i'm gonna fuck you up because that feels good to me most irritating treat as trait as he's gotten older is uh with food because he used to be so reliable that you put food down and he's going to eat it all breakfast dinner unless he's very sick he's going to gobble that food up you can't have him in a house with a dog who has food out that is a grazer because jackson will eat his food and then

eat the other dog's food as well now he has stopped being so reliable for the last month or so and we've tried changing foods and we've tried like like obviously if we cook him chicken and rice he's gonna gobble that up because it's it's a home-cooked meal for him but in general uh he wasn't eating his food and i spent money at vets to try to figure out if there's something wrong with him no there's nothing wrong with him but what's happened is he has found out that if he doesn't eat we will stand over the bowl with him and be like come on buddy come on eat and i'll like pick up his bowl and smell it and put it back down and then he'll like sheepishly come over and like have a few bites of it and then we're both like good boy yes so good eat more please and now like every fucking meal with this prick is just like a party every it's his

birthday every day yeah with his two favorite humans standing over him telling him what a good job he's doing he learned that pretty early on he's like oh all i need to do to get attention is to just like not eat and then they will celebrate me every time i eat to stay alive yeah yes that is we have that problem as well where colleen would feed the cat and then pet the cat while she ate and now the cat won't do one without the other so like you feed i'll feed the cat and the cat will come back into the kitchen or wherever and be like but come on come over and watch me come over and watch me and just give me some attention while i eat and i'm like no and colleen gets really frustrated by it now too or she's like she won't eat unless i pet her i'm like yes that's on you that's your

fault you said you set the standard the cat now thinks that that's what it gets and it it eventually the cat will learn that it has to eat without that if you just make it yeah there are so many mornings where we stand over him and and cheer him on while he eats and other mornings where it's like shay's going into the office i'm going to the gym you i want this food gone by the time i get back goodbye and then i'll go and i'll come back an hour later and it's just still sitting in his bowl and i'm just like well i can't i can't let you die i can't let you starve yourself to death come on buddy come come on who's a good because you also like if i'm frustrated then he's definitely not going to eat so i have to be like i can't be like eat your fucking food i have to be like oh this looks good who cares about what i was gonna do

right now yeah um but speaking of are you sure it would be so bad if your cat got eaten by a coyote i know that probably sounds cold it's uh i i mean i've definitely they're in the morning when i'm super tired i'm and i'm like putting her out and it's too early for her to go out, but I'm just like not willing to deal with it. I'm thinking in my brain, this is on you. Like, this is this is on you. If you get scooped up by a hawk out there or whatever, like this is on you. Yeah, I could let her out. The thing is, she doesn't even really want to go out that early out's just

where i can put her that she won't bother us anymore she just wants everybody else to be up and she will she'll if we she can't get to us she'll go to the kids and then i'm like no don't wake them up it's sort of similar where it's not that he wants everyone awake, but the times that he will whine at the door in the morning is if we are awake and talking. If it's just the kind of morning like we're both up at six and we're like, let's just sit in bed and chat for a while and like plan our day and talk about how great it is that we don't have to get out of bed yet. If he hears us, then he's going to whine because he wants to be part of it. He don't have to get out of bed yet if he hears us then he's gonna whine because he wants to he wants to be part of it he won't he doesn't want to miss out on anything and uh he's the same way the other time he whines is if i get up and i take him for a walk and i come back and i give him his breakfast if shea is not out of the bedroom yet he he'll

whine about that he wants he wants everyone oh in the in the living room together he wants to count everyone yeah that's i mean that's really adorable that's it's nice that he can't yeah he gets worried when they're not all together mike so my cat counts i know that my cat counts and this is very charming we have a yogurt a frozen yogurt shop that's like two blocks from our house and we go there i would say reliably about once a week. And if she sees everyone in the house leaving at once, if all four of us are accounted for, she will walk with us. Like she'll go there with us. And then wait outside.

Yeah. Like kind of like hang out in the alley nearby and slink around. And then when we come back out, she'll come up and join us and we'll all walk back. But if she senses that all four of us are going somewhere she's like well then what i'm i'm coming what am i gonna do here and that's very charming she's and the only all of her charming characteristics are just dog characteristics like the things that i really like about her i'm like oh that's a really sweet thing she does Oh that's what a dog would do That's just the dog stuff

All the cat stuff I'm like I don't like this I'm not a fan of this stuff Alright That's it in the show Okay So that little Stretch that you do Dan at the end of an episode Where you're like ready to hit the road at the end of a conversation.

My dad used to do that. When my mom was nearby, he'd say, ready to go, old horse? Like, they're going to pack up and leave. But he'd call her old horse.

And it was, I mean, it sounds cruel just objectively but it's it was like i'm sure it's a cute name yeah yeah yeah it was a term of endearment it was so funny when i was a kid all right uh you've been listening to quick question with soren and daniel but you already knew that you can find daniel and me on blue sky daniel might be back on x by this point i don't know heB underscore Inc. If you want to go there. Quick question. I did into Twitter to see if, if Twitter was being funny when the,

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