Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - 5 On It & Clay Harbor has ideas for the Bears (Hour 3)

Episode Date: January 29, 2026

In the third hour, Marshall Harris and Mark Grote discussed a variety of sports topics in the 5 On It segment. After that, Chicago Sports Network analyst Clay Harbor joined the show to preview the Bears’ offseason. Harbor shared why a key player or two could be departing this offseason.

Nala Rahimi and Marshall Harris with Mark Grody. Bring you five topics of their mind today. On Chicago Sports Radio 670, the score. Number one. This is a special edition of Five on it with Mark Grody, Marshall Harris, and joining us in the House, co-host of the Big Pro Football Show on CHSN, Clay Harbor. Here's question number one.

This week, CBS Sports published its list of top 50, 2026 free agents, and potential landing spots for them. 40 on the list. Veteran pass rusher, a name you're all familiar with, Khalil Mack. At the top of CBS's list of potential suitors for Mac, the Bears, how would you feel about the idea of a Bears and Khalil Mac reunion?

First of all, I think that we discussed a potential Kalil Mack reunion last year, or was it two years ago. I think it was our guy Chris Emma, wasn't it? It was, yeah. The reuniting with the Bears. that came up, but he ended up with the Chargers. I don't like it.

I don't need it. Khalil Mack is 34, played in 12 games for the Chargers last year, had five and a half sacks. I guess the problem with it is for me, a couple of things. The Bears have guys that they could probably get to five and a half sacks on the season. So I don't know. That just multiplies the amount of guys that you will have struggling to get to double-digit sacks, I feel like.

I love Khalil Mack. I covered Khalil Mack. in 2018. It was a blast of a year. And I don't know if this is in the spirit of the question or not. Khalil Mack didn't seem to really like the Chicago-ness of it all. And I mean being in that fishbowl, dealing with the media, he was never like mean to us in any way, shape, or form.

But he did like to elude us. He did not like to talk. He was always like, he always had this look like, my God, why do 30 people want to gather around my locker and talk to me right now? I don't think Khalil Mack at this point in his life is built for Chicago. So no thanks on Khalil Mack. I'm with my fellow Missouri Valley Conference brother, Mark Friy, Illinois State.

I'm Missouri State. MVC, baby. Love you, man. But I'm going to pass on Cleo Mac. I think he had an okay year. He still got a little bit of gas left in the tank. I mean, he's getting close to running on E. If you ever get in a car with Marshall, he's always close to running on E.

Classic. But two guys I do like, I know it's been a lot of him thrown around here. Hendrickson, obviously the history with Dennis Allen. You go back two years, lean the league in sacks, fourth in pressures, fourth in hits, you go back to last year. Only played in seven games, but a top five pass rush win rate when he did

play in those games. If the medicals check out, bring me him, and then the other guy, I just watched tape on him yesterday. Addafe Oway, I was looking up edge rushers. He was in a three-four defense, but this guy can play some defensive ends of edge rusher. He got traded from the Ravens to the Chargers. In the playoff

loss to the Patriots, he had three sacks in two force fumbles, and you look in the year. He was 11th among edge rushers in pass rush win rate after arriving in Los Angeles. This guy can move. He can play against the run. He can play against the pressure the quarterback. I really like a Daufe Oway. And he's big. He's one of those guys that Dennis Allen likes Marshall Harris. Listen, man, my answer to your question is a question, at what price, at what cost? This man made $18 million last year. And I just feel like if you've seen the Bears cap table, if you've been to Spot Rack, you're like, how much are they going to pay a guy who is definitely on the downside of his career?

This is an ascending team. Unfortunately, even though he's only a year removed from a Pro Bowl trip, he is a descending player. He will be 35 next year. And in the NFL, it's impressive that he's around this long. This guy is probably a future Hall of Famer. but guess what? The bears don't need him.

They need to find other options. I don't think this is the right situation for him to be in. Yes, do they need pass rush? Absolutely. They need young pass rush that will get better and grow alongside Caleb Williams, is my answer to this. If he was 29, okay, you got me, but he's not. Unfortunately, the problem with the field and good creative thinking on Clay's part,

like you look at the list of some of the guys that would be available, there's a Bosa available. There's always a Bosa avail. There's Joey of the Bosa's. Jalen Phillips. Jalen Phillips watched his tape. I mean, he was okay. Oway stuck out to me.

Okay. When I looked at both those guys, I want to see which one I'd like more. Right. And yeah, okay, that is interesting because I do like Phillips. Hassan Reddick, 13 games, two and a half sacks last year for Tampa Bay. Yeah, I just don't get crazy excited about these guys, and I think we're all a no on Mac.

Number two. Should the Cubs make a push to trade for repeat American? League Cy Young Ace. Terrick scubble, scubble would be a one-year rental. What would the hall have to be in order for Jed Hoyer & company to get the deal done if you are on board with it? Does the Pope wear a funny hat? I believe he does. I believe the Cubs should go ahead and punch that. What would it look like to get Terrick Scoobo on this rotation? I think if you can get this done, this puts them at the top of the list of challengers to the Dodgers in the National League. I think right now they're in a pool of teams who are challengers to the Dodgers.

But if you get Scoobel pitching twice in a seven-game series, maybe even three times depending on how it works out, you feel real good about where the Cubs are. And some of the young pitching that might have to go out to get them, I'm good with that because get Terrick Scoobo on your roster. Get Terrick Scoobo a shot to get you not only into the playoffs, but to pitch you through the playoffs. What do you envision the hall being, though?

Like, what are you willing? Where do you limit? Prospects? There's got to be somebody on the big league roster. Hi, Matt Shaw. Bye, Matt Shaw. Of course. Look, man, think about it.

From Detroit's perspective, why in the world would Detroit not ask for the world? They're not going to be like, oh, yeah, we'll take your bottom fee, your unproved prospects. Hi, Kate Horton. Bye, hey, Kate Horton. Oh, wow. Okay. So you would do that? Wow.

Yes. Are you going to wait to see what happens with arbitration? It's the largest difference in arbitration in MLB history. They want to pay him $19 million. He wants $32 million. There's a $13 million difference here. This isn't saying, hey, I want an extra $500,000 raise. $13 million difference here.

Yes, with Wiggins and Steel, maybe coming back midseason, coming off of injuries, I think you do need some pitching help. I'm just not sure how realistic that is to get a guy like him in the building. I think there are some other opportunities like maybe Zach Gallen, a free agent. you could sign that could come in and help immediately. I think if they were to get scoobled, they would have to give up for one year in this climate where you know the Dodgers are going to continue to be nonstop.

You know the Mets are going to continue to be nonstop. Back to back-side Youngs. Yeah, these teams are relentless. And you know there's going to be a work stoppage in 2027. Go for it. Yeah. Go for it. Yeah.

So I'll do it like this. I'm just looking at the Cubs roster. and thinking, who are untouchable guys, guys that I wouldn't trade for. And at this point, man, and maybe this is me being stupid. I'm willing to entertain the possibility. I don't know about Kate Horton going for a one-year guy. I'm a little nervous about that. Bregman stays, obviously.

PCA stays. The rest, though, man, I guess I got to look at the starting pictures, too. Is there anybody else beyond Horton that? Well, you mentioned Wiggins. That's one. And then I guess, yeah. There's other guys, but who's stopping you from making the deal? That's your question.

Most of the roster would not stop me from making it a deal like that. Number three. This five out on the score with Marshall Harris, Mark Grody, and CHSN analyst Clay Harbor. Here's question number three. What was the most disappointing aspect of the Bulls 113, 110 loss to the Pacers last night? Oh, my God. To just choose one in a game in which they, blew a 14-point lead in the fourth quarter.

It is painful for me to have to narrow it down. But I think maybe if I have to, you know, blowing the lead is something in itself. But the fact that they had two chances at the very end of the game to win the game on an inbound pass to Modis Bezellis where they were going for the alley-oop at the end, it was no good. Kobe White then drives down the lane and misses.

That was very disappointing for me. And damn it, Nikola Vucovich made a 31-foot three. pointer last night, and he's got nothing to show for it today. That's what disappointed me in the Bulls game last night. All right, for me, it has to be, this is your third time losing to this team with 12 wins. Okay, you can lose once to a bad team, maybe twice. They get like a three times? What's happening here? And now you've got three games coming up with the heat who are an eighth. You're in 10th in the standings. So these are three big games. You want to come come into some momentum. The last thing was, when I'm watching this game, I-o's cooking. Ios cooking.

He's doing great. Why you take Iowa out? He needs a breather here and there, but keep him in. You go on to be outscored 26 to 9 over the final seven and a half minutes of the game can happen, especially against a bad team. So watching this game, and I don't know if this is a wrinkle that you guys notice, but it's been evident to me because I watch all the games. Kobe White's pressing it. He is pressed. He is forcing it. It's been evident for a few games now. Well, he's still on a time crunch.

here. He is looking at the trade deadline. He's also looking at his contract year. He knows this is the year that's going to get him paid or not paid as much as he wants to get paid. Either way, you want to look at that. And I felt like he came out taking 32 footers and he airballed a three. I know you guys saw that. And then even at the end, I would have liked to see him as he was drawing the double team going into the lane where he maybe stops and pulls up from 15 feet. He can make the mid-range shot. I didn't like his shot selection. Five of 15. He hit one of five threes in this game. He didn't turn the ball over, which was a problem in the previous game, but I think Kobe White forcing it was, and I'm interested to see how he comes out tonight. Remember,

the last time he did play in a back-to-back, that's when he re-injured the cab and had to sit out more time. So I'm interested to see how Billy Donovan manages that. And I think that's the reason why we didn't see Iyo stay on the floor because he's trying to preserve these guys with five games and seven nights. Number four. When LeBron and Brony James took the court for the first time in 2024, they became the first father-son duo to play together. How much influence did LeBron have on the Lakers selecting Brony

with the 55th overall pick in the 2024 NBA draft? ESPN's Ramona Shelburne said this during an appearance on ESPNLA this week. I don't think LeBron asked the Lakers to draft Brunney. I don't think he or Rich Paul. ridiculous. That is an unbelievably ridiculous. So, wait a minute. Are you then saying, if that is true,

are you saying that Jeannie, Rob Polinka, and everybody did that on their own? I'm telling you they did. Let's take it at the premise that that's true. Okay. Did they do it because they thought he was talented or because they thought LeBron would like that? I think they did this because they thought LeBron would like that.

Okay. If the Lakers didn't draft him, would anybody else have? The Golden State Warriors considered him? The Dallas Mavericks, old Nico Harrison over there. Oh, yeah. Okay. And the Phoenix Suns. All three of those teams had interest in Brunney.

Would they have actually taken them? I don't know. You know, this is like your, this, is this your sense of? No, I know this. You know this. That is NBA insider Ramona Shelburne on ESPN LA. Here's our question. On a scale of 1 to 10 on the BS meter, trademark,

where do you rate the idea that LeBron James didn't ask the Lakers to draft his son, Brani? I don't think there's any BS involved. I believe Ramona Shelburne. I believe the Lakers did it to make LeBron happy, but I don't think LeBron went to them and said, hey, please draft my son. I don't think that happened. I think there were overtones, maybe.

But I don't think LeBron ever went up to the office and said, hey, you know I got to have Brony with me. You know, this is a good look. But he would have if the Lakers hadn't done it. I think the Laker... No, the moment passed. I don't think there was a conversation before the draft where they said, hey, LeBron, do you want us to drive?

I don't think that conversation was had in earnest. I really don't. I think it's like you see in football. You'll see a superstar player and then undrafted free agent or seventh rounder, his brother, cousin, they'll bring him to the roster. The onto the compos? Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

You know, that's what I'm saying. It's just something like that. Keep your superstar happy. What are you really getting with this second round pick anyway, even though you did get eight points out of Brony, the last game he played, two for two from the three-point line? Maybe he's coming into some sort of a zone here. We're going to see more of Brownie Marshall Harris.

But I think at that moment, yes, do something to make your star player happy. I don't think he had to go there and say, you know, pound the table and say, give me brownie or I'm gone. But they're smart. I think that there was probably, I'll actually play along on the BS meter, Ray, since nobody else is. I'm sorry, I didn't get my number. It's a zero. Okay.

Clay with your number. I'll go higher. I'll go higher today, Ray. I'll go six. Because even if LeBron James never said the words to the Lakers, you should draft Brani. They knew

that he wanted them to draft Brani. They also probably anticipated that they hadn't. They probably upset their superstar and their superstar probably would have felt disrespected by it. I think that there was probably an assumption, a sort of wink

from LeBron, a sort of do-the-resterer- right thing thing coming from LeBron. You know what to do. I don't have to say it. And LeBron was probably relieved that he didn't have to say anything because the Lakers kissed up and took care of it. So you know what? The BS

meter just went up another knots. Nine, Ray. Wow. Wow. Number five on it. Number five. This is five out on the score. This is with Marshall Harris, Mark Grody, Clay Harbor, all in the house. Here's our final question. This week, NBC announced that fever star, Caitlin

Clark is joining the network's pregame coverage for its debut of Sunday night basketball this weekend. How many Caitlin Clark appearances will we see before we get another installment of NBC's Michael Jordan feature, MJ, Insights to Excellence? Probably many. And what a sham the whole thing has turned out to be with Michael Jordan. As interesting as some of the tidbits that have come out of the Mike Toriko interview, it's just too bad that we have to go to this end of the earth

to get Michael Jordan to talk about stuff or to be in somebody's presence or just to be with the populace. It's impossible. Like what do we have? What did they pay him? 20 million? Did we ever,

20, 80 million to do the interview? It was something ridiculous for Jordan I'm talking about, right? It was crazy the number that you had to give a big number. It just, that's all it makes me think. Because as I was talking about Eddie Murphy, always just wanting to know more, hear more, see an accessible guy, wanted to see him interviewed. I'm the same way with Jordan, and we just don't get it. He is just unattainable. Various reports say Michael Jordan was paid between $20 million and $80 million.

I think it was $80 million. For being a special contributor. I think that's been debunked, though, the high end of that. Come on. They debunked like the $40 million annually. He's probably paid around what Barclays paid, which is $21 million a year. For an hour? I think it was like three hours.

That's what they said it was. What's 20 million to Michael Jordan, who's worth billions? Something. It's worth it. It's worth him taking time out to answer some questions. He can get farther away from the world, the more money he makes. His whole goal is to never be seen but be seen at the same time. I know, but you're just pulling in so much money.

It doesn't, it's irrelevant. That money to him's irrelevant. But anyways, to just get back to answering the question here, how many Caitlin Clark appearances will be seen before we get another installment. of MJ's NBC feature, right? I'm going to go, we're probably going to see her like four or five times before we see MJ. I mean, we're going to see a lot of Caitlin Clark.

MJ, he's on his own time. He ain't doing nothing he don't want to do. I think Caitlin Clark's willing. She's eager to get out there and to do this and she'll be available. And she's a big draw, a big ticket, big time recognizable face. So I think we'll see a lot of her before we see and hear from MJ. Since she's not playing in the one league. and there's a WMBA like work stoppage right now.

She ain't got nowhere else to be. So I would say eight. Eight. I think they're holding some MJ for the end of the regular season. Well, actually, end the regular season sooner of that. So I'm going to go five. There was a report that there would be more tapings of Michael Jordan. I don't know how much more.

There was no clear indication of how much more. But there was something that came out within the past couple of months. Okay. Always trying to get a little more. out of Michael Jordan. It's just so hard. It's so hard to get anything out of Michael Jordan. You sound like David Hall right now.

It's very... You want more from him. Who doesn't? The Bulls got a Derek Rose congratulatory message from Michael Jordan. Which I was blown away by. What did they pay him? $40 million to do that. And he said, in his words, I believe the exact words,

I can't wait to see the banner. Yeah. Like... He's one time I'm from TV. He's got league pass. He can see it. on any given night. This is actually one time when I sympathize with the Bulls. Imagine what the Bulls go

through trying to get Michael Jordan to do anything. To do anything. I got a funny story for you guys real quick. So I'm at CHSN before the Pro Football Weekly and I'm walking with Coach Wonstit and we walk out into the atrium at the United Center that's where we film. And Derek Rose

is standing right there and just Derek Rose goes right up to Coach Wonstit. Coach Wonsett goes up to Derek Rose. Wani's saying, hey, big fan there Derek. Derek, I think you're great Man, your crossover, it's amazing. Coach, coach, you're just a great player. And D. Rose is like, hey, man, you know, Coach Wonstead, love you, man.

You should love your Bears teams. And I'm just sitting there watching. I'm like, this is great, man. D. Rose, coach Wonstead. Was it great interaction. What did you say to D. Rose? I just said, what's up, man? Big fan.

Love your crossover. D. Rose is such a classy guy because there's no way he loved those teams. Wow. That is true, man. No, Derek Rose is definitely the accessible star. I still won't think of Chicago basketball and think of Derek Rose. I'll still think of Michael Jordan, but he is accessible. Stay that way, Derek.

They're both MVP. Stay that day there. And one day they'll both be Hall of Famers. That's the way it works because everybody gets into the Basketball Hall of Fame. Bill Belichick. You know what? We got another, we have Clay Harbor here with us from CHSN and for the Eagles and from the Jaguars. We have him here with us until 1 o'clock, so let's get into it with C.H.

chess ends Clay Harbor. He has, I love this, he has three bold moves for the Bears, which include cutting a player, trading a player, and signing a player. So Clay Harbor will let us in next tier. It's Rahimi Harrison Grotie on the score. Clay Harbor, former NFL player. Clay Harbor, slot to the left. Here's a big pass. And it's caught touchdown by Harbor. That's a touchdown. Clay Harbor makes that catch. And they've got Harbor for the touchdown. Football analysts for Chicago Sports Network. I think the bears have two really good tight ends. I've been in tight-in rooms, meeting rooms, practice fields, game field.

These two guys, three guys, you can even throw Dermasmyth in there, but Colton Loveland and Colquette are extremely tough and physical players. These are guys that can do everything. Clay Harbor. Your large adult son, Clay Harbor, pointed that out on the internet, went viral for it. He's bigger than me, but I'll still take him down. On Chicago Sports Radio, 670, the score. You know he's here.

Clay Harbor's sitting right here in studio with Rahimi Harrison Grody on the score. You see, I had to raise this chair up to be higher than both of us. Did you notice that? Immediately came in and put the chair up. Yeah, I was going to say, is your chair low or did his go to Haw? Is this a CHSN thing? Like, David Haw always has it up like he's a baby in a high chair. That's like I give Haw, every time I come in with you guys, and I ask,

call, I go, why is your chair so high? My knees can't even fit under the desk here. It's like pinching off circulation. Why is your chair so high? I don't know. I just like to be up high. He likes to be seen. I'm David Hawes.

See me. Look at me. Get that man of saying. He is Clay Harbor of CHSN. As you heard, the former NFL veteran of the Eagles and the Jacksonville Jaguars, he played tight end. Now he talks bears here. He's from here.

He's from the great Dwight. Illinois. You already knows where Dwight is Marshall. I know what's up, right? I know what's up with Dwight. I've been through Dwight many times in my life and on my trekked Illinois State University. What's going on? Clay, you good?

I'm great, man. 31st of this month, I will end my 31-day challenge Marshall, dry January, mixed with 31 days of workouts, 31 saunas, 31 cold plunges, no alcoholic beverages, and we're almost there. Congratulations. Thanks. Have you had any THC beverages? Along the way?

No. Okay. Just curious. Well, because that would make him hungry and then he would, you know. I'd eat. That would not be good or encouraging. So congratulations to you and all of those who practice dry January. I'm typically worried about the people that feel like they have to.

Not clay, because I know you're a beacon of health. The people that do it every year and look forward to it, you might have a drinking problem. If that's the month where you stop drinking, you might want to get yourself to a meeting instead of going on Instagram and telling everybody that you're doing dry January. Good advice. I'm just saying, I just want you to take a real look at yourself when you look that for. Not in your case, though, Clay. I appreciate that.

Have you always lived this way? Like even before, like when you were growing up as a, when did fitness become so important to you, Clay Harbor? Before we get into your three bold bears moves. Honestly, it was like post-NFL because everything was so structured and regimented. When you're in the league, you got these saunas, these steam rooms, these massages. everything's taking care of the best coaches in the world. So you've got to like kind of take it on your own. And I did a deep dive to like all these, not hacks, but just these things that you're, how

you're, the human body works, whether it's cold exposure, whether it's heat exposure, whether it's morning sunlight, whether it's delay your caffeine intake until 12, whether it's all these things. And you start putting them together and you realize that you're so much more productive, you feel better. And, you know, longevity is. thing. Now that I'm about to be four years old, I'm looking at the mirror and I'm saying, man, I'm really going to have to take care of some of this stuff.

What a flex at this boomer room where he would say something like that. You know what's even more important than longevity, though? What's that? Bears. Bears. It's a bear. I was going to say, isn't that under the longevity category, the umbrella of longevity? He's trying to sustain the success the Bears had in year one under Ben Johnson and with Caleb Williams, trying to make sure that he continues to get better in year three after a, substantial jump in year two under a new head coach. Yeah, and as Grody teased earlier, I came up with three bold moves that I thought Ryan Poles should make this off season, right?

And I got a lot of feedback on social media. We did this on CHSN, the big pro football show with David Haw, your guys very own. Ruthie Polinsky's up here a lot as well. And I got a lot of feedback. Some good, some bad, but should I just get started? Please. Go take it away. And then let me hear your guys' thoughts after.

each move. Of course. Let's do it. The first one is we're getting out our scissors. You know why we're getting on our scissors? We're cutting somebody. Snip, snip, snip. Okay, this guy's guarantees are done. Tremaine Edmins. I'm not saying I dislike him as a player.

I'm not saying he is a bad football player. Tremade Edmins. But what Tremaine Edmins is, third highest paid off ball linebacker in the National Football League. Off ball. Right? He's 37th and overall grade. 55th in coverage grade.

29th and mistackle percentage, 45th and catch percentage allowed. Everything you look at when I watch his tape, I think he's fine, but is he that much better than a guy you can get for half the price? No. So my thought process here is if you cut him, you can sign a guy that can do his job for less. You're over the cap already. You need some other positions, maybe a little bit more.

You still got T.J. Edwards, hopefully coming back healthy. So, Tremaine Edmonds, Marshall, Grotie, getting cut. You know what? I don't have a problem with it, mainly because I think we saw in some of his absence this season, other guys could be affected. DeMarco Jackson is actually legit watching his film, the guy can play. In Dennis Allen's defense, he can maneuver some things, and it comes down to two things. That position just isn't as important as other positions that the bears need to address. and if you have that much money tied to it and you can get out from under it,

I don't know if it should be a straight cut, a negotiation for a restructure of some kind. I don't know, but it's hard for me to see someone else coming in here at another position not being a boom to this bear's defense, and if Edmonds has to go away to make that happen, I feel like we can live with that. I agree with that.

They showed me, even Amen Ogbog, Bog, Bamega. I know he wasn't always active, but he had a couple big games. He had a couple big games. He really did. So I do have some trust in Dennis Allen and just the nature of the position not being considered. It's not a premium position. And DeMarco Jackson, we didn't even mention, and maybe people have just given up on Ruben Hippolyte, and maybe that's even fair.

It's one year. It's one year. Noah Sewell still? Noah Sewell is there not. Obviously hurt, but you'll be back. But that's a good example of a guy who made a jump, too. Like, he was not great, but I felt like he had been left for dead until this staff came around and we finally started to see something from Noah Sewell. So yeah, I am down with the cut

of Tremaine Evans, as likable as he is, and as, you know, he's a good player, but you can do expendable. Iberflus guy. This is the one that gets a little bit of hate right here, okay? And I understand it because it's tough for me to say it, because I'm a big fan of this player. I enjoy this player. I appreciate him. As a former player, I respect the heck out of him. But, Number two, trade somebody. We're going to trade DJ more. What's?

Okay? Okay? I love, like I said, I love big play DJ. I think he's excellent the way he goes out there and gives everything. I know there's been a lot of speculation at last play, whatever. This guy did a good job of buying into the system. He is the 13th highest paid wide receiver. He's making $28 million a year.

He was 50th in NFL and receiving yards, 26 in TDs. 25th in pass rating when targeted. To me, you can find another receiver that can contribute for a lot less money than what you're paying DJ more. And right now, DJ Moore, arguably, you got Roma Duneze, Luther Burden coming on strong. Look at the end of season. Luther Burton, Colston Loveland, Colquette still under contract. You got all these players. I'm not saying DJ's a bad player. You're over the cap.

I think you need help in some other positions. You've got some playmakers a wide receiver. You can sign another guy to back Rome and Luther and Colston and these guys up. But DJ, if you trade him, you get off the books. Post June 2nd, you get off the books for his salary. You're probably not going to get much. It's kind of like the Amari Cooper deal when they traded him. He got like a fourth round pick.

And everybody's like, wait, Amari Cooper with a fourth round pick? They got away from $20-something million. So, Marshall, Grody, trade DJ Moore, Give me your thoughts. I'm not as sure about this one, I think, for a lot of different reasons, just because of the way the cap works and what are you really losing? Because last I checked, my lasting impression of Ben Johnson's final press conference was they got to catch the football.

And DJ Moore is a guy who actually, you know, catches the football. And so that's him as a leader. And I understand he's the highest paid bear. He was the highest paid bear. This past season, he's scheduled to be the highest paid bear. next season. So I get it. But I think what they need from Caleb Williams, there may be other areas they can address before getting DJ Moore off the roster. Although if they traded him, I would understand it. Dangling him makes sense. I mean, that does. I mean, it just, it's a logical

thing to do. But yeah, I'm going to go along with the idea that DJ Moore is still, still, and, you know, Colston Loveland might be right on his tail, still their best playmaker, big plays in big moments. And unfortunately, part of the equation for me too is Roma Duneze showed me this year

that I need to see more from Roma Dunesay. That I need, like, that maybe he's still going to be really good and he is expected to be really good considering where he was drafted

like he is supposed to be, but I'm still not completely sure on that. The cap hit is $28.5 million in 26, 27, and 28. So I get the why. I'm not ready to go with DJ Moore at this moment. Yeah, so I understand where you're coming from with your creativity of trying to figure out how to get this team under the cap. I just think DJ Moore is too valuable on this roster at this time.

Yep, that is the truth. That is Clay Harbor from CHSN. It's the Rahimi Harrison Grody Show. We will talk more bears with Clay when we return on the score. Midday's 10 a into two on 670 the score. Third down and four. McCarthy. Time runs out and down he goes.

Just tripped up. And it'll go down as a sack. Pressure by Dio O'Dangbo, who was brought in by the front office to beef up the pass rush for Chicago. Wow, that was in another time, man. They found a Dio Dengbo highlight in the first game. game. Oh, yeah, against a backup. He got the sack.

Against a backup left tackle. Let's not forget about that. Give it full context, Clay. The Bears lost. Yes, that was a very retro. Dio Dangbo. With the sack. As we welcomed me back into Rahimi Harrison Grotie.

He just heard the voice of Clay Harbor. He is with us from CHSN, part of the big pro football show with our guy, David Haw at CHSN and Ruthie Polinski as well. We've had the luxury of clay for the last. hour, and Clay has to get everybody up to date. Clay has brought us three bold moves that the bears should make or that he has come up with it, he thinks makes sense, including he has already told us, cut Tremaine Edmonds, trade DJ Moore, and there's nuance to it all, so go back and listen if you'd like, but there is one more part to this. There is somebody who you believe

the bears should sign. Yes, I think the bears should sign. Trey Hendry. Oh, yeah. Former teammate of mine, former teammate of Dennis Allen. He was there when I was in New Orleans when we drafted this guy. So was Dennis Allen. Trey Hendrickson. He's a hard worker. You go back to 2024. He led the league in sacks, fourth and hits, fourth in hurries. Last year, only played in seven games, had a hip issue. Fifth and pass rush grade when he played. Fifth and pass rush win percentage when he played. Ninth in pressure percentage when he played. Right. I go back and watch a tape, he's still got it. He's got a quick first step. He's still strong. He's still physical. He is still master's level pass rusher, right? Some of these guys are playing checkers. He's playing chess. What I want to make sure, medical's check out, you bring him in in the free agent visit. Everything looks good. You say his hips okay? This guy can still play some ball. Give him a look. Trey Hendrickson, I think you would fit Dennis Allen, a guy that you can get passers from without having to trade for Max Crosby. I've even seen people saying trade for

Miles Garrett, yeah, good luck, you know, without having to give up your entire roster. Josh Giddy, Modus, Prisela, all those guys. The Bulls players. So you wouldn't have to give anything up. And I am, I told you I watched some tape and some edge rushers. Addafe Owe is a little homework for you listeners out there. If you want to see an edge rusher, just type in his highlight if you want to. I wouldn't watch the game against the Patriots is another guy I could see them signing big defensive and Ed Rusher, Marshall and Grody, give me your thoughts on Trey Hendrickson. I like the one part that I really, I mean, it's, you know,

Trey Hendrickson is terrific. I like the part where you said, make sure this man is totally and completely healthy and that I'm sure there are ways of projecting such things in terms of the health, the history, all of that, because what goes through my head at the age of 32 is another guy, in different scenario, all that kind of stuff. Jared Allen, once upon a time, came to the Chicago,

Chicago Bears at the end of his career from Minnesota. I don't think he had been as successful in the previous seasons, taking into account that Trey Hendrickson only had seven starts last year, four sacks over that, but the back-to-back 17-half game sacks as well. So with that all said, and if it checks out, and if he is, as you said, from watching the film that he's a real one, I'm down with it. So my question, to your question, or your statement, I guess,

how much you want to pay this guy? Because he just made $29 million last year. How much would you be willing to pay Trey Hendrickson going into his age 32 season? Here's the problem with that is you already invested a ton into your defensive line. Right. So it is difficult for whoever you want to bring in. People are saying Max Crosby, even Trey, even the Daufe O'Way. Maybe the problem solved here is you have to draft a young guy, a cost-controlled guy,

because Dio Dengbo, even though it's two sacks and one sack and two TFLs all last year and eight games, didn't really pan out for you. Grady Jarrett, you know, you can't really do much with that contract. He's still there. Hopefully he gets healthier. Shemar Turner, young draft pick. You hope he pans out. Maybe you just try to develop these guys.

You hope these guys get better. What I saw is I think you have to add to that defensive line if you want to take another step. Those guys aren't talented enough. Dio couldn't cut it for me, Shemar Turner, can get better, he's young. Grady Jarrett just seemed a little off near the end of the season. I thought he looked good in camp. Maybe he can come back, but he is getting up there. So I think it's worth it, and that's why I said, I prefaced it with, you know, cut Tremaine Edmonds.

You need to get that cash flowing somewhere. And then trading DJ. You know, obviously bring in another receiver, but he's the highest paid player on the team. Get that off your books. And you can bring in a guy like Trey Hendrickson, where I think, that is a bigger need position. When you look at the teams in the conference championship game, all of them are top 10 in pressure rate.

You're really okay with clearing the money via those first two players in DJ Moore and Tremaine Edmonds just to be able to invest more in your defensive line and to have Montes Sweat getting paid on one side and Trey Hendrickson on the other. I think for Tremaine Edmins, I think if you can get rid of Tremaine Edmins,

you can bring another linebacker that can do what he does for a third of the price, probably, half the price. some of the average linebacker, which I think Tramaine is, solid NFL player. And then you can invest that money, restructure something else, and then bring in an edge rusher, Addafe O'O.A. Trey Hendrickson. I think you really do

need an edge rusher. If you're dent in the pocket for the middle and you can find, if Grady Jarrett you think he's going to come back and be your guy to get pressure, Jervon Dexter, I don't know if I'm seeing it, then that's cool too. But with DJ, I think there's just so much money there for

a guy that might not be a top three option for your team. You can invest in a left tackle even. You got left tackle and edge rusher. To me, those are the two most important positions on your team right now. We only got a couple of minutes left with you. You did it, as you said, your words, you had a cup of espresso with the New England Patriots

and one of your stops along the way in your NFL journey. So I have to ask you about Bill Belichick and not becoming a first ballot Hall of Famer. I think it's unfortunate because only, one coach can get elected to the Hall of Fame per year. So now you're pushing the line back even further. And obviously these guys had a bone to pick with Bill Belichick. Nobody thinks that this guy, Don Chula is the only coach in NFL history that has more

wins than him. Eight Super Bowl wins. Six is a head coach. I mean, just being in the room with Bill, the way he handled things, how professionally was, how he handled each player the same. And for me to be complimented this guy, this guy cut me. I play six games there. I got cut from Bill, and I still have so much respect for him as a coach, his system, how he handle everything.

No question this guy deserves to be a first bout Hall of Fame. I don't care if he's dating a 25-year-old or he can't win in North Carolina or what else is going on. That's a big win. Big W for him, yeah. But get this guy in the Hall of Fame, please. Who were the starting tight ends for the Patriots in that year in which you were cut? Yeah, Rob Grimkowski, Mark Dulles-Bennett. We drafted a guy, AJ Derby

And my agent goes when I went there real quick He's like he's like You know they got Gronk and Martellus Bennett You know when you're a tight end When you're in the NFL You look in the mirror What do you see? You see the best player

You know I'm not thinking I'm not worried I don't care if I say healthy I'm going to beat Martell's Bennett out I'm going to beat these guys That's how you feel That's how you think That's how you're able to last

Obviously I'm not saying This is all correct But I'm saying you have to have that mindset that, you know, just to even be competitive. The next shot is going in. The next shot is going in. I don't care. The next shot is going in.

Yeah, I'm good with going to the Patriots. Who's Martell's Bennett? Who's the guy they just drafted in the third round? Like, get me on that field. Third round is telling. That's Martel's Bennett. That guy's not missing the team. Martel's Bennett had a heck of a year with the Patriots.

He won a Super Bowl that year. That year was on the team. Yes. They won the Super Bowl. That's a year they were down 28 to 3. I was there for six games. ATL, right? Against Atlanta.

I did get to, double dip and I made all their playoff checks because I played at least five games. Oh, that's key, man. That's a little bit of a... I'm so glad I know time to get into this, but I love that you brought that part up. There's so much that goes on in a locker room with players and the death players that you're not even thinking

about. And it's money and playoff share and who should like in being part of this with the Cubs for three years. Like it's like that guy got cut. Does he still get a playoff share? That's a big deal to players, right? I'm over here at a bar in Chicago go in Old Town benchmark watching the Super Bowl 20 to 3.

And I'm yelling, yeah, we won. Everybody's like, dude, they cut you. Why are you excited? I go, trust me, I have a reason. We get paid double if you win the Super Bowl versus if you lose. Oh, it's a whole undercurrents with athletes, man. And I love it. I think you guys should get every penny.

Clay, thank you, man. My pleasure. Appreciate you guys having me on. And, you know, stay warm out here, out here, fellas. I've raised you well, Clay. You're doing a tremendous job. You success, sir. Keep up the dry January, even though some people think that you started drinking again because

the DJ Moore commented. I was getting good. I texted said that. Yeah, I like that. You said it. You're a little tick. I was like, no, that's funny, man. That is funny.

Yeah, that's funny. Well, sometimes we have to give it to our list. Sometimes you get us. Sometimes you get us. When we come back, we are going to talk to Ben Verlander, Major League Baseball analyst. He is the host of the flipping bats podcast. Yes, of the famous Verlander family as well. We'll talk Cubs and socks and expand a little bit with him next here.

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