Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - 5 On It & Clay Harbor shares wish list for Bears in free agency (Hour 3)

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

In the third hour, Leila Rahimi, Marshall Harris and Chicago Sports Network football analyst Clay Harbor discussed a variety of sports topics in the 5 On It segment. After that, Harbor shared his wish list of players for the Bears to sign in free agency.

This hour is brought to you by Menards. Anybody in? Save big money at Menards. No buzzer. It's time for five on it. Rahini Harrison Rooney. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104-3, the score.

I got five on it. Number one. On Wednesday, NFL.com, released its 2025 draft class report card. The Bears were ranked number one overall, and we're given an A grade. What's your reaction to Chicago's draft class getting the top ranking by the league's website? Oh, yay. NFL Bears. No way.

Like that's so nice. Like just the concept of it. It's kind of like us talking about the NFL honors last week because we were like, what? The Bears are in the NFL honors. This isn't just the Walter Payton Man of the Year award. And there is no just to that. Let's be honest.

But I'm not just watching for Jared. it. I'm not, I'm just not watching for the, for the legacy award. I was watching for like play of the year and coach of the year and stuff. This is fantastic. So when it came to who won the NFL draft, I like that they said the Bears did. I just don't know if you can actually say it when you know, like, for example, we just talked about this. And Clay Harbor is here, by the way. He's in studio. Say hi to everybody, Clay. Hey, everybody. How we doing? That's TV's Clay Harbor. You can catch him on CHSN, the big pro football show with Ruthie Polinski and our David Haw. I think when you consider that Shamar Turner out for the year, he was supposed to be a big part of this defense. Ruben Hippolyte didn't produce as much as they wanted him to and needed him to at times with the injured linebacking corps. Zafrazier, unfortunately, Zay Frazier was out for the year for personal reasons or reasons that we don't exactly know, which are okay. That happens. I don't know that you can call it far and away the winner of the draft, but I think when you look back at it, it's definitely at least a solid A. When you consider Colson Loveland and Luther Burton by themselves and then Kyle Menungi,

like those three right there get to two and A. Well, that's what I was going to say, Lila. This is all relative. They definitely have the best draft class because of the production that they got in year one from those three players that you mentioned. Colson Loveland was out here catching up with. And by the end of the year, if you look at the back half of the season, now I understand Daniel Jones was out, but he played better than Tyler Warren down the stretch

and certainly in the postseason because guess what? Tyler Warren wasn't in the postseason. Kyle Manungai was out here doing things as a seventh rounder that made you question some of the other running backs that were taken ahead of him. Now, a lot could be said about that offensive line, but the offensive line play wouldn't be what it was without Colston Lovelland being one of the guys who was added on as a tight end. So I really think when you look at what the rookies did,

especially Luther Bird and the third, understanding he, in a lot of people's eyes, fell to the second round. The impact they made when they were in a position to make an impact is undeniable compared to everyone else. Close second, though, to the Cleveland Browns who had a couple of monsters on defense. Yeah, they put some numbers to what you just said, Marshall. Colston Loveland among all rookie pass catchers from week nine onwards. First in receptions, first in receiving yards, first in receiving touchdowns, first in EPA per targets, and second in yards per route run. Who was first in yard for route run?

Luther Burden. Who was second in all those categories I just mentioned? mentioned Luther Burton. The Bears got two of the best receiving weapons, I think the two best receiving weapons in the draft. And then Kyle Munangai, you guys said it. The guy was such a perfect fit in the scheme, such a good change of pace with Dandre Swift. It fit perfectly in that system. The Montgomery Gibbs, now it's obviously Swift and Menongai. And then Ozzy. If Ozzy doesn't get hurt, I mean, he had an excellent year when he took over as a second round pick to come in to play left tackle the level he did. I think Layla does have a point.

Ruben Hippolyte, healthy scratch last four games. Only played in 12 games. I think you had 30 off defensive snaps. You look at Zay Frazier. Hopefully he can come back and make some type of a impact next year. And then you got to look at Shemar Turner. Even when he played, he wasn't great at defensive tackle.

That's why they had to move him out to Ed Rusher. Ed Rusher, he did a good job of stopping the run. He was stout, but he cannot get pressure out there. They've got to figure out a way to get impact from a second round pick next year. Well, yeah, and you know, Shemar Turner wasn't just a typical second rounder. He was pick number 62. So when you consider that, that's pretty high for what they expected out of him. Unfortunately, Ruben Hippelight, Clay, I think played to the projected draft grade. Yeah.

Which was, you know, the Beast, for example, had him as undrafted free agent rather than a fourth rounder. Yeah, it looked like it. And he looked overmatching. The thing about Ruben Hippelight, that is slightly concerning, he's about to be 25 years. old. This isn't a young rookie that you're going to see a ton of development. And he's already 25. So he's already, for some players, third, fourth year, as far as his age. So he should have came in a little more seasoned than he did. Still more hits the missing. Number two. Five on it is brought you by almost free teeth.com save on dental implants today. Here's question number two. This week, Bleacher Report published its list of biggest bust candidates for 2026. And

outfielder Pete Crowe Armstrong is among those expected to have a bad season. How concerned are you about PCA's second half struggles from 2025 bleeding into this season? The nemesis for PCA was a lovely pitch that is many people's nemesis called the slider. And PCA low swinging at bad balls, there's no doubt about that. And a lot of them he hit out of the park when he got the chance. But the league adjusted to Pete and adjust back we have not seen yet. That's something that we have to be concerned about. The chase rate, for example, was a big issue for PCA.

That was to say the least. You know, he liked to swing at everything. So first and foremost, pitch selection had to be something you have to work on, especially in this offseason going into spring training. We knew that this was going to be a massive adjustment for him. As far as one of the biggest bus candidates, though, I can't say that. Like, I don't know how much he turns, I don't think he's a bust,

but I think you have to be very mindful of the league adjustment that was made and how much of it can bleed into this season. I'm going to give Pete at least a month and a half before I start to be concerned about whether or not he's made an adjustment. I'm talking a month and a half of real baseball time, not a month and a half of like spring training and baseball. So I'm talking like mid-May before I start to get impatient. Who am I kidding?

It'll probably be the game that happens after the season opener. But still, in my head, I'm going to go with six weeks. You're definitely going to have some type of reaction to what happens in that season opener. I guarantee that. Somebody's throwing him a slider at the dirt. I'm going to be like, he'll earn nothing! The good news is PCA did show flashes in the playoffs. He showed flashes, not consistency that you want to see,

but he was certainly better than the 634 on-base plus slugging that he put up in the second half of the season in which he barely got over that Mendoza line batting 2-16 with a huge. 372 slug. That is rough. To watch him hit 25 home runs in the first 95 games of the season and then manage just six in the second half. And the thing is, 31 home runs is a fine total for a season. I would like to see a little bit more consistency.

I would like to see the strikeouts down. I would like to see more of the speed on display. He doesn't have to hit 40 home runs, but 40 doubles would be nice. Oh, that would be tremendous. 40 doubles, 25 home runs, and then steal me 40 to 50 bags. 40 to 50? Is that too many bags? No, no, dare to dream.

Yeah, I mean. It's music to my ears. He had 35 bags last year. I think if he gets on base a little more consistent rate, that should be a walk in the park for him. This man struck out 155 times in 157 games. Is that bad? That's not good. This man only walked 29.

times the entire year. And you said it, Marshall. Second half the season, 216, batting average. The guy hit six home runs. Strikeout rate north of 25% after the All-Star break? These are bottom two,

three, four, five percentiles in the entire major leagues. Okay, yes, you are concerned. I think the Cubs have to have some options on the roster just in case this goes south. Is Talkman still out there in for agency? Is that a guy you think about bringing back out?

Sorry. You've got to have someone just in case this continues. Yes, he's an excellent, excellent defender. Great fielder in the worst case scenario is he's a great fielder that can't hit. He's a gold glover. Gold Glover, yes. He was an All-Star, you know. But the second half of the season, the guy was chasing balls that were bouncing to the plate.

I'm like, what's going on here? And to me, that's concerning. Fair. Mike Tuckman. Number three. This is 500.1.104.3, the score with Leila Rahimi, Marshall Harris, and CHSN's Clay Harbor, friend of this show. Here's question number three. What did you think of the way the Bulls handled the roster against the Celtics last night?

Hey, remember that time? I was like, oh, Anthony Simons is definitely getting more points than Nikola Vuccivich. It was supposed to be the revenge game. The supposed revenge game. Remember that? I was like, ah, that should be fair enough, shouldn't it? no Anthony Simons

did not have his best shooting night unfortunately and neither did the rest of the bulls so Simon's especially struggled

from three he was one of six the team shot 33% from three but he only ended up with seven points so fail on my part because Voo Chad 19

I think I think this is the search for the nine or ten guys so when you're trying to figure that out I don't hate the fact that Anthony Simons and Colin Sexton, Modus, P. Will, and Gershon were the combo. But I think you're going to have to be really judicious about how you give out some of these

minutes. Like, do you want P. Will playing 35 minutes if you're trying to evaluate these other guys? Yeah, those are the questions I think that stand to be discussed when all of this comes up. Surprisingly, Patrick Williams did not have a bad game. Oh, no, he did not, which is, I guess, where he played 35. But what's the goal here? Well, number one goal is to showcase Patrick Williams and get him as many minutes as possible because one of two things is going to happen. You're either going to lose the game or he's going to play really well and actually start to build fundamentally some trade value or some I can attach him to something and get rid of him. That's one of the goals. The other goals is to find these guys that match the timeline.

Colin Sexton does not match the timeline. So why is he starting? Why is he playing 32 minutes? Is this just because Isaac Acora was made unavailable missing the last? game before the All-Star break. Gershon Yabusele, I don't know why he's getting so many more minutes than Nick Richards. That's another thing.

I would just start Nick Richards to find out what he can do. He has not looked good the last couple of games. But you've got to find out, can he match? Right now, they're a mess, and they're going to be a mess until they get some practices. And even after they get some practices, there's still be much messier than when they get, I don't know,

Josh Giddy, Jalen Smith, the aforementioned Isaac Kakoro, and yes, Trey Jonesback. If they have those four players healthy and opt to play them, they will win more games. I promise you that. What about the Rob Dillingham portion of this? He needs to be playing 35. So the guys I want to see play 35 minutes a game are Jaden Ivy, Rob Dillingham, and Modis Buzellas. Dillingham had 16.7 assists. Like he had a solid game. Like he showed up to me the most important thing is you got to progress Mottis. Like what is he?

What are you doing there? He needs to come with me this offseason and hit the weights. let's get this dude strong. If he can get a mid-range jump shot, if he can get a little bit stronger in the paint, then I think this guy could be a superstar, but at this point, he can either go one or two directions. He's got to start showing it right now. Yeah, I take the super off, though.

Just a start, just a start. Did yesterday mean nothing to you? I enjoyed having modest on our program, yes. ESPN Shams Sharani reported Wednesday that the Spurs and forward Jeremy Sohan have agreed on his release to allow the 2023 All-Star Rookie team member to become a free agent. Should the Bulls have interest in Sohan? So if the goal is to get these guys in the same window as a Josh Giddy and Amadis Buzellas and I guess Isaac Coral as well, understand this.

Jeremy Sohan is 22 years old. He'll be 23 next season. His birthday's in May. this is a guy who at 6 foot 8 plays power forward and can do a variety of things his three-point shot isn't great but he's a physical player he is athletic he hasn't been getting much run this year he only has played in 28 games he had some injuries last year he is a guy that you probably want to take a flyer on one he gives you a little bit more size at 6 foot 8 two you can put him directly next to guys like

modest boozellis and patrick williams for evaluation How does he look in comparison to those two players? Sohan is in his fourth season. He's been playing in the NBA since he was 19 years old. That's why he got waived so that he could go find an opportunity with a new team. I think the Bulls are a perfect fit. If you're just taking guys and having open runs like Clay used to do when he found out he wasn't good enough to play basketball at the same level he could play football.

When did that happen for you? I'd say around, actually, it hasn't happened. I still have dreams that I can go out there. in help the Bulls here. But I wouldn't mind this move. I mean, young guy, career-wise, he's averaged 10 points, five boards, he's got size, 6 foot 8, he's athletic, he's shooting 48% from the field, 28 from 3. I think he would add something. I mean, right now, I mean, let's be honest, they're not going to call it a rebuild, they're not going to call it Tankathon. That's exactly what it is. So let's give this guy a shot, bring some size in there with this whole

plethora of guards that you got in there. Marshall had even been a guard in my high school team. If you're not above six foot, Marshall, you can't play down low. I'm sorry. He plays like a center at six foot tall. But I think this would be a solid move for the Bulls. Oh my goodness. The slander. That was a layered attack. It was like the Seahawks defense. It was just waves of pass rush just now. I'm used to Clay just talking his noise. It's fine. Elias Schuster had a really good line about the Bulls in the Sports Illustrated article. He wrote about actually Sohan. He said the Bulls might as well be second chance you. Their addition of Josh Giddy

and two off seasons ago started trying to requiring former lottery picks and needed of a change of scenery. And we talked about this last week with Isaac Okoro, Jaden Ivy, Rob Dillingham, that kind of ideas. So why not add some much needed? I just want to stress that

much needed positional size. Now Marshall likes to give me hell and say that I think height matters, but I don't except in this case, which is what I say every time. So Yes, height matters every time. You're right. It doesn't.

We've been over this. I married a 5-foot-9 man. That was not the reason we got to voice. Clay, how tall are you? 6-4. How do you do with the ladies? No comment. Yeah, exactly.

He doesn't put himself on blast. But yeah, height matter. Clay, does height matter? To an extent. What if sometimes the tall does are the other ones talking to you? Did you ever think about that? Oh, my goodness. That happens?

Sure. Everybody's tall compared to Layla. Layla's like 5-foot one. I'm 5'3. How dare you? The way you've shorter her two inches? Not fair. But that's the point here is that the bulls need positional size. They have too many guards, as we know.

They have like 98 guards, and then they have like not enough forward. So that would make it make sense. And yes, they are kind of second chance of you right now. Number five. It was announced yesterday that Kayla Williams will participate in the NBA Celebrity 3-point contest. On a scale from 1 to 10 on the confidence meter trademarked, Do you believe Bears quarterback Caleb Williams can be Iceman on the court for the NBA celebrity three-point contest? Number one, I'm here to see Caleb Williams and Drewski interact.

Number two, did you see the way he threw that ball into the stands when he was at the play-in game last year? That was a long time ago. That was one of the only highlights we had of that game. True. So I like Caleb Williams' chances to shoot a three or two. I feel like he's got that energy and the confidence. So I think on the confidence meter of him being on the court, if he can be Iceman, I'm going to give it a six.

Six on the Iceman scale. I'm going to give him an eight here. Here's why. The man is a competitor. The same way Clay would try to say he can make more threes than me, that's what Caleb's going to do, even though there's a professional basketball player known for three-point prowess in said contest. That would be Jared McCain.

formerly of the Sixers, now on the Oklahoma City Thunder. Okay, the other participants, Richard Jefferson, you know he can shoot. He can't shoot, man. That's all he does. Exactly. BMX athlete, Nigel Sylvester, streamer and entertainer, Drusky, as you mentioned. Jake from State Farm is in this contest. Chris Paul?

No, no, like Jake from State Farm. I've got to ask if I was Jake from State Farm before. What'd you say? I said yes. Perfect answer. I took a picture of somebody. No! No! You did Jake from State Farm such a favor.

I mean, not that he's a bad-looking guy himself, but I don't think he's a Clay Harbor build at all. This goes back to the Chobble Ganger discussion. Like, who do you look like? So back to this discussion, I'm more interested, and, you know, this just pops up. Jeremy McCain does something that Caleb Williams does that they have in common. They both do their nails.

So I'm more interested to see what that conversation is like, between them, who's got the better nail setup for this contest than I end the actual contest. I don't expect Caleb Williams to win because, again, Jared McCain is a real-life NBA basketball player. But I think, eight, I think he can come in second. I've seen some of these other guys shoot. They're not as good. Quarterbacks, I don't know if this is like empirical data, but it's quarterbacks in my

experience are really good athletes. And they can shoot, they can do all the stuff. like we'll go play, pick up basketball, you know, as a team. And for some reason, the quarterback's always one of the best in the team. And when you got a nickname like Iceman, we know where Iceman came from, George Gervin, you know, with the finger roll. So I think Caleb, when the lights are brightest, he plays his best. I think Caleb's going to impress us. I'm giving them a six like Layla did.

All right, well, I'm at eight because I got more confidence than y'all. You do have more confidence. That man going to show out. That is five on it. We thank Clay Harbor for being in studio with us today. so we decided he has to be here for two more segments, whether or not he wants to, but he said yes because he's a nice guy. We've got to get to a list that you talked about

on the big pro football show on CHSN. As much as we talk about cap casualties, what about free agent targets? So let's talk about that with Clay. Bear's Talk next. Clay Harbor, former NFL play. Clay Harbor slot to the left. Here's a big pass.

And it's caught touchdown by Harbor. That's a touchdown. Clay Harbor makes that catch. And they've got Harbor for the. Touchdown. Football analyst for Chicago Sports Network. I think the bears have two really good tight ends. I've been in tight-in rooms, meeting rooms, practice fields, game field. These two guys, three guys, you can even throw Dermasmyth in there, but Colton Loveland and Colk Met are extremely tough and physical players. These are guys that can do everything. Clay Harbor with Rahimi

Harrison Brody on 1043 the score. Dreams and Nightmares. That's Clay Harbor's theme. of the Philadelphia Eagles, which he was one. So, you know, that's how it works around here. This is Rahimi Harrison Brody on 1043, the score. Talking a little bears kind of wrapping up the Super Bowl, wrapping up the NFL season. And I know we talked about this, your free agency targets. But before we get to that,

we were talking about the cap casualties, too. Kevin Fishpain had a really in-depth article in the athletic. We were talking about the decision-making process. And Marshall brought it up. So, like, if you're Ryan Poles, how do you face Dennis Allen? you know and how does Dennis Allen try to champion for his guys? You know, what goes on in that type of discussion where you're having to make so many

decisions about guys who are free agents, guys who might have a really favorable cap hit for a team like a Tremaine Edmonds, for example? Yeah, you go to your coaches and you say, how valuable is this player to you? Is this a guy you need? Do you think you can find a replacement at, you know, a lower price? Because we got to do some restructuring. One thing that I will say is the restructuring. potential, which is the 2006 cap savings through simple restructures, which is basically turning

salary into a bonus. So what can you do with contracts based on just turning them into a bonus? And the bears are very high. They're the seventh team listed, $85 million that they can turn into salary cap via just changing that into bonus. That's without changing years on the contract. So sometimes you'll hear guys say it's more cash than cap. So if McCasky, George McCasky is okay with paying more.

Some rosters cost more than other rosters, even though you have to be under the salary cap, because the bonuses don't count towards a cap. So if George McCasky is okay with it, they have a lot of money that they can turn into bonuses. And also something I want to say is like the combine coming up in less than two weeks, that's when you find everything out. As a player, as an agent, your agent will go in, they'll have meetings with every team, and they'll go, okay, we like this guy. We like this guy.

As a player, that's the first time you'll find out. When you're a free agent, does your team want you? Does this team want you? Does this team want you? That's when all the trade conversation happens. That's when all the free agent conversation happens. That's when as a player you find out, okay, there's going to be a big market. You find out, okay, there's only two or three teams interested in me. Unfortunately, for me, that was typically the case.

You got three teams for a lot of my other buddies. They'd be talking to me like, yeah, this team, this team, this team. Like, dang, man, you got ten. I got three. But all you need is three. You need three good ones that really want you and you can get a decent deal. It's just like house hunters. Collecting valentines like in elementary school and kids, you're looking over at a desk and

some kids got 12 Valentine's on his desk and you've got four. And you're like, why doesn't anyone want me to be there Valentine's? I would say that Clay probably gets more Valentine's now than NFL team interest. I'm just going to throw that out. Burn. Yeah. We've been playing this buzzer the whole day and it's just living rent-free in our head. I love that buzzer.

It's very TikTok coded. Very TikTok. It's very FN. You know, I do think, though, that that is an interesting aspect of the combine that we haven't really talked about because we have been, as Bears observers, so obsessed with who they going to get. How tall is Caleb Williams for real? How tall is everybody else for real?

Who's jumping really high? Underwear Olympics. The free agency aspect of the combine was not something that we necessarily discuss. But also, who's going to be number 10? and now you realize they don't have a top 10 pick. That's different around here. Very. Yeah, it is different, but I think there will still be some players available.

You know, at some point we'll talk about my draft prospects. I did that yesterday in the Big Pro Football Show. I had to give David Haw, Ruthie Polinsky, some of my favorite picks that will fall to 25. And I think there's some solid options, left tackle, edge rushers, because the class is deep in both those positions. Like that running back class was deep, and that's why they waited until the seventh round of two. take a running back. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, well, I just, I got to tell you,

it's not just that it's been a surprise. It's the marriage of the offensive line blocking so well and how he's run, Kyle Menangai, that helped make that work so well. Like, when you think about that part of it, and let's just shout out also the run game, Eric Biedema was a real game changer, I think, in that room as well.

Yeah, I think you got a really good running back coach. Dudesville, the guy's coached 12, 1,000 yards, rushers in his career. He's been a coach for almost 30 years in the league. He's a guy that will come in, he will command respect. He's been an assistant head coach. He's been an interim head coach. He's been a guy that's been a coordinator. So he's done so many things in football that when he walks in in that room, you're running back, you're standing at attention. This isn't like the substitute teachers here now that Eric B. Enemy's gone. This is still another guy that is an alpha guy. He's a guy that will instill discipline.

He will have that right kind of stuff that Ben Johnson likes, that players they will have to respect. I'm interested in what you have to say, Clay, and you kind of dialing up your own thing on Blake Pro Football Show. First of all, I'm just behind the scenes. Is this a producer directive,

or is this like you coming to them saying, hey, I really want to talk about these three guys? No, this is a producer directive. Say, hey, I want to, it's collaborative, but do something with free agency. Go and find three guys that you think would be a good fit for the Bears free agency. And it's very open window. I could just say, Tray Hendon, the top three guys have come to my head.

But I actually go. I watch film. I look at how these guys play. Look at numbers. And I come up with three guys, positional needs for the Bears, that I think could be potential good fits. And I think that's a good segue to get into where we're going as far as the free agent targets. I think the bear should consider. My third guy, Chicago, you're not going to like this.

Nobody's going to like this one. It's a safety. The reason you're not going to like it because this is a dude that ended the bear season. His name Cam Curl. You know, Marshall, when he goes to gym, all he's doing is curls.

Cam Carle can play. I do hamstring curls, thank you. Hamstring curls. But this guy can play. He's only 26. I turned on the film. Like, this guy's playing in the box like Brisker,

but unlike Brisker, he can also cover. No. Yeah, when I look at this guy, he does everything well. He's physical. He's good. You can put him in the box. You can play him deep.

He's a strong safety, so you can still bring back Byer if he want to, and he put some analytics with it. He was 15th among all safeties in pass rating when targeted in coverage. He was 16th in coverage grade per PFF. He was second in run defense grade per PFF. And when I turned on the film, I saw exactly that. It's a guy that fits a Dennis Island system.

We saw what the Seahawks were able to do. Nicky Me & Wetherspoon, two versatile players in the defensive backfield. You got Kyler Gordon. Give me another guy like Cam Curl that you can move around. I think that would be a really good piece for Dennis Allen. And you know what Kim Curl does that is really savvy is he makes in-game adjustments. Like you can see when he would start to like sneak a route or when he would start to jump a rally. He's a detail-oriented guy when it comes to just how he's able to kind of start to pick apart a team

when it comes to the routes they're running or what the route tree is for that specific game. I felt like that was happening against the Bears. And he also played 16 games at least the last three seasons. Like this guy's never hurt. He plays. He is going to be healthy. I don't know that was one of the things with Brisk Gras. I know he played 16 games. To get to number two, you guys ready for this one. John Franklin Myers. Okay, this guy has three names so you know he can play. Is that how that works? Yeah, he's a defensive tackle. He just means he was named a certain way. He's a defensive tackle. He's a three-end, but he's detackle. This guy's going to play three technique. Same position as Jervon Dexter. He can play little nose, but he can line up at six. He can line up outside. He can line up anywhere along defensive line. He's 290 pounds, 6-4. Dennis Allen-type guy. The last two years, he's had 14 sacks all coming from inside.

So if you want a guy that can get some inside pass rush, we saw what that was able to do, Seattle. I'm not trying to steal the Seattle Seahawks blueprint, but that blueprint looks pretty good. Okay? So this is a guy that can do a lot of good things for you. As far as interior rushers, fifth and sacks, eighth and hits, 21st in pressure, 6-4-290. Versatile player can line up all over the defensive front. So that's why I like John Franklin Myers. I'm sensing a theme here with the versatility and more of not just getting guys, but getting

chess pieces that could be moved around like Queens for Dennis Allen. Yeah, exactly. And he's a guy that will give you someone that can get that pressure that you're hoping Grady Jarrett could from the inside, that were hoping Jervon Dexter could from the inside. And I think he'd be a perfect piece in that Dennis Allen system. And finally... Hold on one more thing on him, though. Yeah.

Do you think because he's coming from a Broncos' DeV? that was considered top five in the league that the price will go up for him. I think there could be a bidding more for this guy just because there's not a ton of interior defenders on free agency that are really good. So you might overpay, maybe like you did, Diio Dainbo. That's not good. But I think this guy is a player. When I looked at Dio, I said, I don't know what they're doing here.

You know, as a tight end, I'm like watching this guy as an edge rusher, I go, I don't need help. I'm a tight, I shouldn't be saying that. as a tight end? Why are you bringing me this guy? He's like, oh, he's good against the run. I feel like I feel like I can block this guy in pass rush. Okay, I shouldn't be able to feel that, Marshall. If John Franklin Myers lines up out there, I'm going, hey, give me a couple chips. I need some help. So this dude can play, and I think he'd be a better look according, you know, as far as my history goes and blocking guys like that. And finally, Ed Rusher, I know there's been people pounding the table saying, trade for Max Crosby, trade for Miles Garrett.

want to give up no first round picks. I don't want to give up another big time player. You got Trey Hendrickson and free agency. You also got this guy. I turned on the film and I said, how come nobody's talking about him? You're going to say no way. I'm going to say Addafe Oway, okay? This guy can play. He started with the Ravens. He got traded to the Chargers, right? The only game you have to watch is the Chargers playoff game versus the Patriots. This guy had three sacks and two four fumbles. I turn on the film. He's great at rushing the passer. He's also versatile.

He plays for a 3-4 defensive end. They might have him his outside line. He can play D-N in a 4-3. He's not the typical build that a Dennis Allen likes, you know, the long, bigger, stronger guys. But this guy is really good against the run. He can set the edge, but he can get some pressure too. I really liked what he was able to do after he moved from Baltimore to the Chargers. His win rate, after he made that move, was 16.5, which was 11th among the men.

all edge rushers in the National Football League when he moved from midseason from Baltimore to the Chargers. So I would love to have Adafé O.A. on the Bears. I noticed there were three defensive players when you talked about free agents. My issue is, do they have money to invest more into the defense based on where they already have money going into this? Yeah, I had an argument. I said, yo, listen, like people want all these new defenders, do it. The Seahawks didn't invest in the D-Line. Say, hey, Ryan Poles did that. He took his swoons. He took his wings and he missed. Guess what? Grady Jared obviously got hurt. Maybe he can get better. And when you're in your 30s, tough for me to see that. Before he even tore his Achilles,

Dio Dengbo wasn't much of a player. Now you expect me to think he's going to come back after torn Achilles and be better. Shemar Turner, even before he got hurt and tore his ACL, didn't see much from him. A second round pick, and those two players, they did the investing in the defensive line. But like I said, if you're willing to go all in, if you're willing to maybe move some of this salary to bonus, you have the seventh most, I think Tray Hendrickson would be great. Or, yeah. I'm saying cut Trayne Edmins. You can get rid of Tremaine Edmins.

I think you'd find a replacement. But I think there is a possibility for them to still have a decent amount of money in free agency. If you do convert some of these salaries to bonuses. I have a question about the direction of why you're saying this. So I want to get to that on the other side of this break. More with Clay Harbor Football Talk here on Rahimi-Harrison Grody on 1043, the score. Rahimi Harrison Grody. The great Kevin Harlan.

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And that is a call of Trey Hendrickson. And I keep laughing the whole time because of Kevin Harlan into the Trey Hendrickson into, I don't know, Jen. Story of my life. I want to ask you Clay Harbor, who is in studio with us, the reason you picked your top three free agents, each time you said something about run fits, how much is fixing the Bears run defense a priority to you this offseason? Oh, it's massive.

I think when you look at the Bears, they're not going to survive another year with the defense they had like they did last. You can't count on 33 turnovers. As much as you think, yeah, where does a team that turns over, gets turnover? Takeaways. Every team I've been on, everybody's saying takeaways, takeaways, takeaways. I know you emphasize it. Everybody does.

They're fickle. You can have guys that can intercept the football like Kevin Byard. You help you out a little bit more, guys that go after the ball, force and fumbles. But usually there's some regression to the mean in the takeaways. So how do you win football games? and you look at the Seattle Seahawks. I don't want to keep going back to the Seahawks, the Eagles. These teams that are able to stop the run without having eight guys in the box,

you can sit there and play cover two at times, stop the run. That makes your defense so hard to beat. It's almost like an unfair advantage. When you see what the Seahawks are able to do, then versatile pieces. So you're Mike McDonald, you're able to really see his genius because he has Nick Eamonwary, because you have Devin Weatherspoon, because you have all these guys in the defensive line that can move around and do all these different things, it makes it hard for an offense to really pick up who these guys are as far as your rule set goes. So Devin Weatherspoon or Nicky Menorre can be a safety.

He can also be a Sam linebacker. He can be anywhere. So it just makes it really hard for identification. You put your mic point, find your linebackers. Okay, is that a DB? Is that the lineback? It's just very difficult when you have these versatile pieces. Is that why Kyle Gordon is so important when you talk about next season?

Is that enough a healthy Kyler Gordon or do they need more in terms of the run fit in your opinion than what's actually current on the roster? How much can we expect to bounce back from the guys they already have? Tyler Gordon is going to be huge. If he can stay healthy, obviously he hasn't shown that he can do that yet. But once again, that's one of those guys to where you don't want to have to go base defense to stop the run when they come out with two tight ends. You want to be able to stay nickel like the Seahawks did. That's just going to be my court of the day like the Seahawks did. They go dime, they go nickel, they never play base.

If you can still stay out there and Kyler Gordon's a guy that's physical enough that he can take on a tight end and still get to his run fit, he can still tackle the ball carry. He's really good at that. That changes things for offenses. If you don't have that matchup problem where you can motion your wide receiver and get them on a backer, motion your running back, get them on a backer, motion your tight end, get them on a backer. That changes things. match isn't there. And now you're going to have to scheme up different ways to try to find

advantages for your offense. The nine-year NFL veteran Clay Harbor is in studio with us on Rahimi Harrison Grady. And I talked about this after the Super Bowl. Like we spent our whole show on it on Monday. I feel like I went to school when it came to not just the way they utilize their offense, but what we saw on the defensive side of the ball. Like field position matter. Mark Grady kept talking about how you could argue kicker or punter could have been VP in that game. But they really did teach a defensive clinic. Like it was waves of pass rush. It was everything a defensive coordinator talks about. There was also a key aspect of it that I thought was so important and contradictory to what Ben Johnson says. He talks about the pass rush insurance that you

get, you know, when you want a sack guys when you have a lead. That is not what Seattle did, man. They were, they were, I think coming away with sacks at will. And when you saw that the way they were able to get the stops from the interior like you talked about, I just kept being out. I'm like, oh, early sack. Love it. Another early sack. Another early sack. And that's what really just impressed me so much about what they did. And you know what's also interesting when you look at Seattle and you look at Philadelphia, right? I think these two last Super Bowl shows you, you go back and it was the era of Tom Brady, Mahomes, Superstar Quarterback. That's how you win the championships, right? Then you see Jalen Hertz. Then you see Sam Darnold win these

championships when these Super Bowls. What does that tell you? These guys minus the Super Bowl, their performance in the playoffs, both of them, maybe in the top 10? I mean, they're not top-level quarterbacks we're talking about here. So getting a defense like they have, that's becoming a run game. You saw what Kenneth Walker was able to do. Run game and defense matters, and I think the Bears got a good, solid run game offensive line. Obviously, we see left tackle matters too with how Will Campbell was bullied. But defensively, being able to pressure without blitzing is the best way to beat any quarterback. In Seattle, the stunts, the games that are playing, they have double-mugged pressures

with the linebackers, the linebackers back out, they jump out to their zone coverages, then you're sending defensive backs. Devon Weatherspoon, Eamon-Whori, you're blitzing. So there's becoming this change, this shift to trying to find a group of guys that can just get pressure, not so much just focus on having the Brady, the Mahomes. Now you're seeing teams win. The last two Super Bowls with defensive. lines that are just big and can pressure the passer.

Which one was more impressive to you, the defensive performances in the last two Super Bowls? Was it the Eagles or the Seahawks? I would say probably the Eagles, and I think that was because they didn't blitz Patrick Mahomes one time. They sat back, Vic Fangio in the cover two shell and just got after Mahomes. And the best quarterback of this generation, they made them look pedestrian. Obviously, the Seahawks defense did great. But you looked at the Patriots were stumbling into this game.

They play a lot of good defenses, and I'm not going to hate on Drake May. I would still take Caleb over Drake May. Thank you very much. But he is not the same caliber guy as Patrick Mahomes. I'm sorry. No, I think that's fair. And there's been some talk about whether or not Vic was going to come back. You know, because he's at, if he wanted to, he could retire comfortably financially, Vic.

I'm sure. What about his defense do you like so much? I feel like that's not a topic we've gotten into you, into with you. You know, how do you feel about his defense? and what makes it so deceptive? As far as Vic Fangio? Yeah. His defense isn't really deceptive.

Like that's the thing. He's going to give you a lot of cover too. He's going to sit back. The problem with his defense is they got good players and he knows how to play him. Howie. Yeah, how he drafts good players. I mean, you got Jalen Carter in the inside.

You got Jordan Davis. Jalick's Hunt was a guy that came on this year. And obviously they weren't the defense they were last year. But they just do such a good job of playing their roles and their keys, and obviously we saw how the bears ran on them. That typically doesn't happen. They draft well Nicoby Dean, a guy that's a free agent linebacker this year. If you do get rid of Terrell Edmins, Tremaine Edmins, excuse me, he's a guy that you

could probably get for less, but they just did a good job of drafting. Jad Campbell, they have players that play well in their system, and they put them in places where they can have success. You're not playing these guys out of place. It seems like Vic Fangio always has this guy in the right spot where he can make the most plays and you can get the most out of them. I think it's a fair assessment. When you get closer to the draft and we're just starting, you're going to have narrowed down

who you think the Bears can take. But you already have an out of the gate. Can we call this? Out of the gate. Mach 1.0 for Clay Harbor? Yeah, 25, right? And this is obviously, we haven't seen the Combine. We haven't seen the pro days.

But from watching tape, from gathering info, I just think these two guys would be really good fits. and these are two options at 25. Some people have this guy mocked before. Some people have this guy mocked after, but I found the left tackle for the Bears. His name is Caden Proctor from Alabama. This dude is 6'7, 366 pounds.

He makes the mountain from Game of Thrones look small. He's got 35 and a half inch arms. He can tie his shoe standing up. This guy was a Feldman freak. He's a freak athlete. There's a list that they put out of the best athletes in college football. At 366 pounds, this guy benched over 500 pounds. He power cleaned 450 and he squatted 800 pounds.

I turn on the tape. I go, how can a 6-7, 370-pound man move? He can move. He's not the most fleet of foot. But if you put him in darn all right as your tackles, your left-and-right tackles, you got two beasts. This guy's nasty in the run game. He's powerful in the past game.

I think if you give him an off-season with Dan Rochar, he can turn him into somebody that can just eject players from that line of scrimmage and really build on that run game and is a strong, strong defender. as far as pass rush is concerned. Interesting, you would use a first rounder on a left tackle after they used a second round. Yeah, that was the second rounder. Ozzie Tripillo is missing the entire season.

Go take a look at the free agents in at left tackle. There's not one. Braxton Jones might be your best opportunity. Rashad Walker from the Packers, who was a former seventh round pick as a solid pass blocker, he's going to get paid way too much because he's the only left tackle. There is no one in free agency. You've got to get a left tackle in the draft unless you think that Theo, Bennett is your option for next year.

Yeah, there's no such thing as a left tackle store. No. Unless you're Trent Williams, and he is the store. So are you guys ready for number two? It's got to be quick, but yes. Real quick, Ed Rush, you guys have seen Miami, Rubin Bain, Ed Rush, there's another Ed Rush, there's another Ed Rushner on this team. His name is Akeem Mezzadour.

This guy had five and a half sacks in the college football playoffs. He's extremely agile. He's a big guy. He can stop the run, but he's a really good pass rusher that just got overshed a little bit by Bain. Akim Mazador is a guy to keep your eye on at the combine when you start looking at him. He's a guy that I think would be a really good ed rusher to put on the opposite side of Montes Sweat and you don't have to give up any draft picks. But if both those guys are there, you're taking the tackle. I'm taking the tackle. We need the left tackle.

Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Clay Harbor, this is always fun. Thank you for joining us all season long. We're going to miss you, Clay. No, let's get together, guys. Let's go out and the Matrix. Yeah, I'm good on that. Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Glitching the Matrix is fun I'm just going to go ahead and hang in It's being at a casino Let's get a workout in Marshall Let's see what you got man

Oh dear I'll work out with you All right let's see I know you can't do much Bad knees Perfect timing You can catch Clay on the big pro football show On CHSN

It's usually at 530 Yesterday it was earlier It was at 5 but that's usually the time Between 5 and 530 for the big pro football show Clay thanks as always Appreciate it guys And coming up next here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie, we have Portage Indiana Mayor Austin Bonta to talk about the pitch

and also just how the money for the Bears Stadium that they want to finance and really Bear City. Hallis Harbor is the name. No relation to Clay. Next.