Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - 5 On It & Clay Harbor talks Bears (Hour 3)

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

In the third hour, Leila Rahimi and Marshall Harris discussed a variety of sports topics in the 5 On It segment. After that, Chicago Sports Network analyst Clay Harbor joined the show to share his list of NFL Draft prospects who would be good fits for the Bears.

It's time for five on it. Rahini Harrison Rooney. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104-3 to score. I got five on it. Number one. We're going to have more on the NFLPA report card coming up at one. But for our first question, before I get to my first question here for you guys,

we have to introduce our man, Clay Harbor from CHSN. He's the co-host of the big pro football show on CHSN alongside David Haw and Ruthie Poulinski. And he's in the house. with Layla and Marshall. So here is question number one. What stood out to you about the Bears grades on the NFLPA report card? Okay, first of all,

shout out to friend of the score, Kaling Kaler, because the NFL filed a whole injunction. That's a court hearing. That is a court proceeding to try to make sure that these player grades were not released to us, the menacing public. They got released anyway.

Ha ha ha! You know what? Why? Because transparency is good. The thing that surprised me the most about the Bears grades, it was the treatment of families. How did they get a C plus in that? I thought that the Bears were pretty good when it came to all that stuff. Like daycare for the kids and things like that.

Somebody who watch kids whenever there's a game or, you know, if they're able to, if wives and kids and stuff like that are happy during the games. And maybe I got swayed by the TikToks because there are some Bears, wives and girlfriends, if you will, wags, who have posted. to go with me to a Bears game. They're getting their makeup done and they look great and they're having a good time.

Simone Biles is out here taking pictures, you know. So I was kind of surprised to see that it was a C. Marshall, what did you think? So that did jump out at me, but I think more so the home game field of C, like that being the low score. The Bears got relatively good grades, a 13th overall, a lot of A's, a lot of Bs. And then it's like the C plus for treatment of families, the C for a home game field, and then the C plus for defensive coordinator. And the defensive coordinator thing stood out, but I got it

because you got a lot of guys playing in a new system and maybe they don't fit and maybe they're not getting the playing time they want because of that. But the home game field, the reason that stood out is because I started looking at other teams' home game field and you see like the Carolina Panthers, F, Buffalo Bills, F, there were a lot of bad scores for home game field and it made me ask myself,

do these players like any fields at all? Like, do any of the players like the field that they actually play at? And do they prefer the turf, field turf, I'm saying, or do they prefer actual grass? And maybe I just don't know. You prefer grass, but you prefer nice grass, soft grass. So Soldier Field doesn't have nice grass? Soldier Fields changed a lot since I played there. I played there three times in my career.

And I remember the first time I went out there. I went out there in warmups, and I just had the normal cleats on. And I go out there and run around. And my feet were literally above my head at the end of San. that route and hit the ground. I had to go back in. I had to put those studs on, Marshall. I know you played some back in the day when you're in high school. That was a long time ago.

Had to go play through some weeds. And that's what it felt like a soldier field. But I know it's changed since then. We know that Bermuda, all this stuff that that's changed. So that is something that's concerning. For me, I have to say training room or training staff B, with all these guys, they got to be with all these guys that come back and then they're out for three more weeks, the same injury.

you got Jalen Johnson, you got T.J. Edwards, you got Kyler Gordon. You're getting a B. I wish I could not turn in some assignments and get a B or get an assignment return and I still get a B. That's something for me and then the defensive coordinator, C plus. Usually you like your defensive coordinator. This guy running your meeting. You'll go to bat for this guy. For me, this scale like a C plus, the minimum grade for a coordinator should be a B. Like if that means something. And if I got some season college, I know you guys were overachievers. You probably didn't. But what that means is you probably got some A's. I had some assignments I did really good on.

But you probably got some Ds and Fs too. So there's probably a number of players on that defense that were like, Dennis Allen, I don't like this fit. He's not putting this in the best situations. He's not doing things that really accentuate our abilities. And I think that's something that when you come into a new system, a lot of these guys are maybe Fluse guys trying to play DA scheme could happen. Wasn't it Joaquin Brusker who was basically like wanted to get turned loose by D.A.?

He tweeted because somebody goes they should use Joaquin Briskermore and he's like, yeah, use me. Yeah. That's what comes to mind. It was that direct. Number two. Question number two is multiple choice. What do you think is the most likely scenario for quarterback Aaron Rogers next season? A, a return to the Steelers.

B, he signs with the Vikings. C. Aaron Rogers signs with a different NFL team. Option D. He'll just retire. or E, all of the above, chaos. Now listen, I made you put all of the above on here, did I not? Oh, yeah.

You know why? Because then he's all things to all people, but most importantly, himself. Oh, my goodness. So I still have the theory, the conspiracy theory, the rando theory, whatever you want to call it, that Brett Favreve and his retirement saga. Do you remember the simpler times, guys, when the Brett Fav will he or won't he retirement story, led all of SportsCenter and ESPN. And thus lay our lives

because that was the only news outlet we watched for sports at the time. For days. For weeks on it. Days, weeks, weeks. Training camp. I'm pretty sure it was somewhere coinciding with the Tiger Woods. Was that when the cheating scandal began with Tiger Woods? So those were like the two stories of the time.

And you know who was sitting, taking a backseat to the saga that dominated our lives of Brett Farrow. Aaron Rogers. And lookie here. Look where he goes after he's in Green Bay. Is this monkey see monkey do? Well, if it isn't to the Jets. If it isn't to the Jets.

And then what happened? There was the saga surrounding his Achilles. Willier, won't he play? Took up some dude's space on the roster. Somebody else could have been playing. And Aaron's like, well, I got cleared to go back to practice. Oh, I don't know how I got in this mess. He's going to the Vikings.

It was either going to be all of the above for me because I think he wants all of the attention, he's going to the Vikings. And the Vikings have many different choices that they could have as their backup quarterback, as we know. But I think if Aaron Rogers had it his way, he would complete the Brett Favreck, minus the picks to the reporter. Good job on you, Aaron Rogers from restraint.

Wow. So, you know what? Complete the Brett Favreve arc, but do it G-rated and go to the Vikings. Is it bad that when you said Tiger Woods cheating scandal? I was like, what, do he use the wrong? Do you take a stroke on something? or like, and I was like, oh no, you meant the cheating scandal. I thought you meant cheating on the golf course.

Yeah, on his wife. Yes, I got that. It took me a minute to process that. And I sarcastically, when I was anchoring in Austin, Texas and reporting at the time, was like, guys, that's not really a ton of news, you know? Like. You were unsurprised is what you're saying? Yeah.

I had to try to explain to them that the story of athletes cheating on wives. It's not as salacious as they must. do you think? On this question, the multiple choice, give me A. That's a return to the Steelers. Coch he's worked with before, although you could argue the relationship got rocky towards the end, but coach he's had success with before. And I think for Aaron Rogers, that's just what makes sense. Does he really want to start over? Does he really want to start over and have to be in camp and learn new guys and do that eye roll, sigh when someone doesn't run the route the right way? He doesn't want to, at least with the Steelers, there is a degree of familiarity.

So I think it's going to be able to. I, for one, would love to see JJ McCarthy tell Aaron Rogers how to run the offense. Yeah. I would say the Vikings, but I don't think Aaron Rogers, if you're signing him to the Vikings, is going to compete. He wants to know that he's the number one quarterback. And the Steelers of the team to do that. I think he wants to go for one more. They made the playoffs.

Mike McCarthy, you mentioned it. I do think the Vikings bring in a veteran quarterback. Do you know who I'm thinking here? Marshall? The guy that used to play for the Vikings? Do you like that idea? Kurt Cousins? Yes, Kirk Cousins. I like that idea. Bring him into compete. Veteran guy. If JJ raises his level, give it to JJ your first

round pick if he doesn't. Guess what? We got Kurt Cousins who we won 13 games with and made the playoffs. Obviously the playoffs didn't go well. But you know Kevin O'Connell likes him some Kurt Cousins, they tried to bring him back. They couldn't. Now, they get them back for nothing, just a free agent signing.

Y'all got to stop calling him Kirkrow bangs, though. That is insulting to the actual Kirko bangs. I can't be handling this. Like, stop. It's please. It's disrespectful. Number three. This is five on it on 104.3. The score with Laylorah, Rheemey, Marshall Harris, and CHSN analyst Clay Harbor in the house. Here's question number three. What do you think of Cubs pitching after the first week of spring training exhibition games? Apparently, I'm more optimistic about it than one

Marshall Harris. What you mean? You're a bet. You're bet. What does my bet have to do with pitching? Hey, hey, hey. This said, what was your impression of Cubs pitching after the first week of spring training exhibition games? Well, you know who they played in the first game of spring training exhibition? They played the White Sox.

That's not the regular season. This is just spring training. All right. As long as you don't get hurt, cool. Is that a fair way to look at the beginning of spring training? Just don't get hurt. So I wanted to ask this question too because James and Tyone let loose a couple home runs, but at least we saw Matt Boyd go three innings and not give up a run.

So those two I'm evaluating a little bit more. When you add in the fact that Chota Imanaga has supposedly increased his velocity, and that's both on his basketball and his splitter, that would be a huge help in, I think, regaining the trust that got him, you know, the start for the home opener here. and the start in Japan is that opening day. So when you consider those two things, I think overall, James and Tyone probably working on a 12th pitch,

I don't know about, because he's that guy who works on his arsenal in spring training. Matthew Boyd, that was nice to see after, I think he may have run out of gas after pitching 179.2 in-thirds innings, you know, last year. So I was encouraged by what I saw out of Cubs pitching this last year. I'm going to be really to the point on this.

No one got hurt after a week. I am happy with that. We can slow clap, we can slow knock on the wood, do all the things because the goal right now, the first couple of weeks of spring training where you're not necessarily fine-tuning anything, but just getting into the flow

and stretching yourself out, it's just to stay healthy. How many times have we seen a player's entire season be derailed because of something that happened in spring training? can't have that. Maybe you had Zach Gallen, you can afford to do something like that, but they don't. So just stay healthy for now. Here's my take.

I look at spring training is a little bit like maybe OTAs or preseason in football. There's always going to be some guy that makes a big play, wide receiver, scores a touchdown, quarterback throws a big pass. What matters more? Your fundamentals, your route running, all that, right? I think in baseball, spring ERA doesn't matter, walks, velocity. repeatable mechanics matter and that's what you see

the Cubs pitchers working on yes Tyone got shelled a little bit there's been some issues little bit yeah he's gotten shelled but I think if you look back to where they were last year in a much better position just because of all the injuries they had

I mean you had let's look Justin Steele out from most of the season due to the elbow injury showed a missed a month James and Tyone two stretches on the injured list Saraca was acquired injured in his first appearance I think with Tyone, Cabrera, Boyd, Horton, Ray, Assad, you've got a good group of guys here, so they're in a good spot. Number four.

The Bulls lost 121 to 112 at home to the Trailblazers last night. They now have lost 11 straight and just went 0 for February. When will the Bulls win again and how many more wins will they have this season? Let me just start this by saying, this is the model. If you are on board with the tank, this is exactly what you want to see. You want to see Modest taking all the shots and making plays and playing through mistakes. And you want to see a game that is close at times. Hey, I like being down three with, what, under four minutes to play.

Isn't that what it was last night? And then lose the game. Just lose the game. 11 straight losses. Just lose the game. And I know people will think I'm being over the top when I say, just lose the game. game. But let's be honest, if you've been complaining about the Bulls being in the middle, you either want them to be really, really good, they're not going to be really, really good.

Let me just stop you right there. Or you want them to be really, really bad. They've got 24 wins this season. And before this, they were 24 and 25. They were a 500-ish team. Now, they're 12 games below 500. They have the ninth worst record in the NBA. And within their sights are the Memphis Grizzlies who have 21 wins and the Dallas Mavericks who have 21 wins. So there is a chance they could get to the seven spot in the tankathon standings. And if they get to the seven spot, they have a 32% at a top four pick and a growing 7.5% chance at the number one overall pick. That's how I wanted to start. Now back to the actual question of when will they win again?

Let me tell you what's upcoming. Milwaukee, a team fighting for a playoff spot. city. Don't need to say anything about them. Phoenix, a team fighting for playoff position. And then Sunday, March 8th, on a West Coast trip that will take them through five cities. In nine days, they will go to Sacramento, California. And in Sacramento, California, they will face a team that right now has 14 wins, the fewest in the NBA, the team at the bottom. of the NBA standings. Bulls West? Although half those players have been shut down. Zach Levine won't be playing in that one.

He's out for the season. In true Bulls West fashion. That is their best opportunity to win another game. I think that is where the losing streak stops at 14 games. Because let me tell you something. If they don't do it then, the next best chance comes March 16th at home after that five-game road trip against the Memphis Grizzlies. But I think we could circle Sacramento on.

the calendar as the next time the Bulls get a win because they just lost 14 in a row, although the Kings have won two of the last three. I thought about the Kings. I thought that that would be the time. But then what's the fun in that plot? Wow. Lakers. Whoa.

They lost three. If you lost three in a row, I mean, they're close game last night. In the last three games between the Bulls of the Lakers, the Bulls have won the two out of three. They didn't win the last one because that was a whoopin. I think the Lakers were mad that they lost to the Bulls the other two times. But I think in true NBA conspiracy theory plot fashion, I think it would be hilarious if they went into Staples, now crypto. I hate calling it that, just like to me it's still the Sears Tower.

I think it would be a true NBA plot fashion to go loose to the games. but beat the Lakers. So that would be a 16-game losing streak at that point. And you think they could just roll in. It's March 12th. Think about the load management. You know, think about like LeBron's older. You know, like, you're over here, no, was it?

Who said Luca was never going to win a title? Was it Spiegel? That was Matt Spiegel. We made a $100 bet on that. I got a bet's outstanding. I think you're going to win that handily. Yeah, he said you would never get back to the finals. They're sixth place in the West.

It's not like they're, they've just lost three straight. No, no, no. But that's it. He said they would never. he said Luca, the player, will never ever go back to the NBA finals. We'll never go back. Yes. It was a bold prediction.

But you know what? One good bold prediction is a good prediction. There was another. I can't say this with a straight face. You know, you know, Ray, I'm simply saying this for the plot. What do you think, Clay? I think the stopgap here, if they don't beat the Kings and just to be different, the Wizards, we're talking April, April 7th and 8th.

You got a back-to-back, back-to-back games, against the Wizards, we only won 16 games this year. They look worse than the Bulls do. So right there is the end, the guaranteed end of this losing streak. And yeah, I'm being a little, you know, facetious here. But I think that is the very bottom of the cave. They will not go any further than that. Do you understand if that happens?

That's the third to last game of the year. That would be the 29 game losing streak, which would break the all-time losing streak of 28 games. held by the Pistons, and shared with the Philadelphia 76ers. I remember that because guess what? I covered that. You're covering them. You were there.

You were there. That's the bottom of the cave. 29 straight. I'm not saying, I'm saying that's the very back end. That's when it happens for sure. You got back-to-back games against a wizard. One of those games. One of those games.

We're all just for the plot right now. I said the Lakers just because it's ridiculous. I kind of like it, though. It's very Lakers to lose to the bowl. Like the Clay Harbor tank streak. We need to monitor this. I like it. I like it.

The drive for 29. The drive for 29. Or maybe 30 if they win the first game of those two games. Could be a 30 game losing streak and then they win the back in. That's right. There's two. Number five. Five on out of 104.

The score here's our final question on Thursday. Tampa International Airport posted the following messages on the following message on its social media accounts. Quote, we've seen enough. We've had. enough, it's time to ban pajamas at Tampa International Airport after successfully banning Crocs and giving everyone the amazing opportunity to experience the world's first crock-free airport. It's time to take on an even larger crisis. Pajamas at the airport in the middle of the day. So that's the end of the message there from Tampa International Airport. Turns out

it was a joke. And Tampa International Airport isn't banning pajamas and Crocs. but would you support an airport pajama band at O'Hare and Midway? Okay, so first I was fooled by this because I'm like, wait a second. Tampa, like where Nike jogging shorts and flip-flops are considered fashion. You know, like Florida flip-flops are just a way of life. That's really the greater point here. Like, I've seen people roll up to the Palm Beach flight in a fur coat and flip-flops. And I like the contrast.

You know, if you're going to put it out there, put it out there. So at the same time, I just don't care what other people will. we're in public. As long as it's like not Kanye's girlfriend level of nudity. Oh, wow. You know, and frankly, like, good for her. You know, she thinks she looks good. Like, I can't really, I don't make the laws and I don't enforce them.

But if you, it's up to you, how silly you want to look in public. And you know what? I thought I was in style at the time sometimes. And I found out later I wasn't and I was on television. So I can't criticize. I think it was the current administration that wanted to bring back like, they did like PSA is about dressing up for the airport, like you're going somewhere, like a night out on the town or a play or Broadway musical.

Like that's what people used to do because. Yes, they are definitely trying to bring back the 60s. Well, that's another story for another day. But what I'm saying is I think this is foolhardy and that, yeah, you should let people wear whatever they want because, like, you can't. Flights are tough because you want to be comfortable. Like people always ask me, why am I not better dress? because I wear what I wear in here.

Sweets and a T-shirt and a hoodie and a jacket if it's cold. But like, I ain't getting dressed up for the freaking airport. I want to be comfortable and be able to fall asleep. Now, the trick is maybe if you want to get noticed, if you're trying to meet somebody, dress up at the airport. There's a problem, though. What do you define pajamas as? You know, like, there's many definitions of pajamas.

You know pajamas. Like, what's pajamas? Pajama pants. Like, what's the cutoff? Pajama pants? Flannel. Open fly. Like, you know.

Clay, stop. You know when someone looks like they're about to go to sleep. Drawstring. Old t-shirt. Like a t-shirt that's like soft. Stuff you wear at your house when you're about to take a nap.

How about that? I'll wear this. I'll wear this. I'll wear this. I'll take a nap in this. Okay. I'll fly in this too. The matching sweatsuit

has now become the outfit du jour for the airport. And this is why I'll give my answer on this and say. But that's not pajamas. Have some decorum about yourself. not just at the airport, but anywhere you go. At least change your damn clothes.

Athleisure is so prominent now as Clay has just brought up and it's so affordable. It's the bare minimum, man. Don't wear some damn pajamas at the airport or the store. The gas station, come on. I'm wearing my heaviest fabrics at the airport because then they're not in my suitcase and I can put more stuff in my suitcase so I can go somewhere. And I'm always cold. That's it.

So, like, I wear my jeans and like something like this, like a sweatshirt, something like that. Like whatever takes up the most space. my suitcase. And yes, I look stupid in public and I don't care because I'll wear like my mom sneakers that aren't ironic. Just don't wear pajamas tomorrow, Marshall. Oh yeah, Clay and I are doing a thing. We'll talk about that later though. Let's do that next. Also with more from not only the NFL player survey, but Clay's actually been checking out football at the Combine. Isn't that an idea? So we'll talk to Clay about some of his observation from the Combine for the Bears wish list next.

Clay Harbor Former NFL play Play Harbor slot to the left here's big pass and it's caught touchdown by Harbor that's a touchdown

Clay Harbor makes that catch and they've got Harbor for the touchdown Football analyst for Chicago Sports Network If you saw how far you took the Rams in the NFC division round if you have a chance to add a couple more players there

this guy didn't play and your quarterback doesn't miss games if you have a quarterback that's missing games and you say hey we probably need this guy Caleb's still young. Caleb takes care of his body and he never misses a game. You can get players that are playing that are going to help you win and you never know if Tyson might not even see the field once. Clay Harbor with Rahimi Harrison Grody on 1043 the score.

It is our day to have custody of Clay Harbor. He was with the morning show and that David Haw earlier in the week. It is an ongoing custody battle because I am here to tell you we deserve first dibs on Clay. Yeah, you're basically his dad. Before David even knew who Clay Harbor was, I had Clay Harbor on television. True or false clay? That's true. You can't make the child pick between parents, Marshall.

That's the number one rule. He's more like a David's more like an uncle. We are the parents. We are the ones. Is David the fun uncle? Is that what it is? He's definitely the fun uncle. They do funny stuff.

Yeah, you're the cousins. David's the fun uncle for sure, man. Are we the cousins you make up the dances with his kids, though? Because those are the best cousins. Oh, yeah. We're the cousins that we get into trouble in the parents, you know, we all get together. That's fair.

We're all like running outside. The oldest one thinks they're in charge. Yeah. Not that that was my life. That's me. I'm in charge. It was my cousin Omead. He was the one like, oh,

Omead says we should all go to like 2020 video and Glendale to rent a video. This is how long ago this was. Who let you guys outside? I like that though. Somebody's got to be the leader. And, you know, usually it does. When something goes wrong, the responsibility falls on the oldest. It really does.

Let's be honest. Well, in my family, it was the oldest. girl. I expected more out of you. Exactly. Like, these little kids, okay, but you're the oldest. You know better. So that's kind of where we are. Prepare for a lifetime of disappointment to my parents.

Ha ha. Showed them. Okay, so we can't be saying this in the custody hearing. The point is Clay is dallyed with the morning show for the last few days and he was away from us. So now Clay is back with the big pro football show. He works with David Haw every day. Don't

worry about that part. The multi-year NFL vet is here. And I think we have to start first with just your observations from the combine. Anybody stood out to you because you already had a shopping list of what you thought the bear should do at 25. There's more practice going on today, but still just initial thoughts. First off, let me preface this by saying, you can call me Mr. Combine, Marshall. Do I need to take you through real quick before I get started? Tell us.

In the 2009 NFL Combine, Laila, 40-inch vertical first, 30 reps of 225 in the bench press first. 46040 right there, got it down to 455 at my pro day, 10-foot broad jump. Okay, I know what the combine's about. I've been through all the interviews, I did all the on-field drills, caught all the balls, did all that. Same draft class as Rob Gruncowski, Aaron Hernandez. And yet they were both chosen higher than you. They were.

They were. We had a record tight ends taken that year. But the first guy I want to start out here, and I think Chicago might not like this, because there's a lot of people out there that don't like Gervon Dexter, and they might say this guy reminds him of him, but he is not Jervon Dexter. Okay, his name is Caleb Banks. We already know, Chicago and Caleb seem to get along. Caleb Williams, our quarterback.

This guy is 6'5.6, 230 pounds. He ran a 50540. That's better than Marshall could have done at 180 in his prime. Okay. Okay, 32-inch vertical and 96 broad jump at 330 pounds. Freak athlete, here's the problem. He only played in three games last year. Had a solid junior season.

goes to the senior bowl. Dominates. This guy's quick. I turn on this film. He takes up space. He can rush the passer. He moves around like a 250-pound man at 3.30. This guy's a problem.

The reason he could fall to 25. And after this, I don't know if he will, but the reason he could fall is because of that injury history with his foot. And he didn't have a ton of production. But I think this guy is exactly what the bears need. A huge space heater. You can put him at one tech. You can put him at three.

You can put him at five. I haven't turned on the tape. and I saw a 335 pound man at 9 technique. That's versatility. That sounds very relative athletic scory, the way he said, no production. No production. He's like, he's got all the tools, the traits.

Why do you think this is going to translate at the NFL level to actual production on the field? Watching the Senior Bowl and just seeing what he's doing and some of the best guards and tackles lining up everywhere and just a man of his size. The only way, the only way I don't see this guy working out, he's not taking two business days to get off the ball like Jervon Dexter after it snapped. Okay, this guy actually has that suddenness and he's going to get off the ball.

And I'm not slandering Jervon Dexter. I think he's a solid pass rusher. He's got to work on his run fits. But the only reason he won't work out is if he's not healthy because he is taking on blocks in the run game. He can rush the passer. He is massive. He is just going to eat up space just by being that large human.

Also in the combine, I got to mention this. He didn't finish because he said it's clear. were bothering his feet. He had a foot injury last year. So that's something to be aware of, but apparently it was no big deal, and he will be fine to come on to his pro day and everything after that. He didn't use the V word, which you know I like when they talk about players of his... Violence? Yeah, you didn't use the V. Is he not violent? He's very violent. Okay, that's why I need to hear. He's very violent. Okay, you're ready for a small school sleeper? Oh yeah. Well, this is your specialty, being a small school sleeper. FCS kid, All-American, first team.

His name is Caleb Proctor. No, not Caden Proctor. the offensive tackle, Caden Proctor, defensive tackle. His senior season, he was first team, all-FCS, all-American, like I said.

He had nine sacks, 13 TFLs, led his team to playoffs, and here's why I think he can play. I turn on the tape against LSU. You know, FCS schools have one game a year against a big-time opponent.

Gotta get paid. He had two sacks from the starter for playing. This guy played his best against LSU, SEC, big-time football. He looked better than a lot of those guys. And then I look at some of that

stuff he did the East West Shrine game. All-Swing games matter. My East West Shrine game, probably the reason I got drafted in the fourth round, have success against these bigger schools when you're an FCS guy. He dominated the East-West Shrine game.

This guy is going to slip maybe the fourth-fifth round because he's a little bit smaller. Combine was so good, he might, fourth, but he's only 6-2-281. It's funny saying a guy small at 6-2-281. But for a defensive tackle, a guy that can move to five technique he is, but he's quick, he's strong,

he's physical, he's, he's violent. He is all of that. He's explosive. I really liked what I saw from him in the combine. And from defensive tackles, he reached a speed of 20.95 miles per hour. That is the top four in the last five years of the NFL Combine. That's in the top four. Okay, I like that. Yeah. I do think that you're on to something, though, with the relative athletic score, Marshall. Like, how much does that factor into what you're calculating, because I feel like you also know the Bears love some relative athletic score. There was a player last year out of Texas A&M, Shemar Stewart, that I thought the Bears were

going to go after simply because he had an almost perfect relative athletic score. It was number one out of the draft class last year. Here's my take on the draft. Offensively, I'm going to trust every draft pick the Bears make. Why? Because Ben Johnson

is going to vet him and say if this guy is right for the team. He's not looking at relative athletic scores. Why did they take Colson Loveland? This guy's intelligent. He's tough. He's physical. He's an all-around football player that can line up anywhere. A rookie tight end to come in and to pick up all these motions and shifts in the lineup where he did? Uncommon. Trust me, I tried it. It's not easy. Okay. And then you got Luther Burden, the guy that falls. He sees guys and he pictures him in his offense, Ozzie Tripillo. Defensively, there's a disconnect because I feel like Dennis Allen is a guy that likes these traits and when you put him

together with the trait master himself, Ryan Poles. Now you're just going after traits. Traitmaster! The trait master! So, defensively is what concerns me. You've seen the miss with Shemar Turner. You see him miss with Di Oh, Dang. I'm not going to say he missed with Shemar Turner. He came in his defensive tackle, didn't

play. They moved him to the end. Didn't look great. Look like he could at least stop throwing out there before he tore his ACL. So for me, when I look at defensively, I think there's a little bit of disconnect. I trust everything Ben Johnson's going to do offensively. Defensively gets a little bit risky. So that brings us back to how we let off this show.

And if you want to go back and listen to what was said by Ryan Poles on the Todd Meshay podcast and how we discussed it, go back. Rewind feature in the Odyssey app. But Clay, here's the ultimate question. It was at 10. How much do you trust Ryan Poles? That's really the question here. I trust that Ryan Poles hearing him, I was listening to these interviews over the weekend. And he's talking about how he goes about his draft board.

He's saying when they're looking at defensive players, he's going to bring the offensive staff in here. and say, okay, which of these guys is going to keep you up at night if we're playing them tomorrow? Which of these guys are going to be the toughest of block? He said defensively or offensively, we're going to bring the defensive staff in and say, okay, which of these guys are going to be the most difficult to defend? So I like what he's doing there. I think he does like the traits too much. But the thing he showed last year, which I absolutely love, is he is willing to draft

best available. I remember the last big pro football show. I said the bear should go Colston Loveland in the first round of NFL draft. I never got more hate on anything in my life. Tyler Warren, Tyler Warren, Tyler Warren. He fit the system. Right? So I think he was the best player available. Fit the system. Same thing with Luther Burton.

So I like that about polls. And that brings me to another player I want to mention to you guys. And that is my safety. Okay, I know safety ain't a position of need. It is a position of need. It is a position of value. It's a position of value. But you've seen the value increase with what you saw from the Seattle Seahawks in the Super Bowl.

How they're able to move around Nicky Menwry, another guy I was pounding the table for last year. go back and check, Marshall. I see you giving me that side eye. No side eye. Emmanuel McNeill Warren is a guy I think could be available in the first round of 25. Measured in, 6-4-201, 32-and-a-half-inch arms, 78 wing. He hasn't ran yet, but when I watch this guy's film,

he reminds me a little bit of Nick E. Manworry. He's a guy you can line up in the box. You can line them deep. He can play the run. He can play the pass. You have how many safes on the roster? How many? I don't believe there are any.

Zero. There are none. And he would be a guy that would be a game changer. If your tackles are gone, if your edge is gone, if your defensive tackle is gone, don't reach. How do you raise the floor of your team by drafting best player available and getting the best players on your roster? You look what the Detroit Lions did a few years ago when they were in the basement, not even the basement, the dungeon of the NFC North. Everybody's laughing at them. Oh, they drafted Jemir Gibbs.

They don't need a running back. They drafted Sam Laporta. They don't even need a tight end. Jack Campbell linebacker that high? They don't need Brian Branch's safety. Guess what? Next year, they've won the division for two straight years at that point. Obviously, they had a little slip because our main man, Ben Johnson

left. But when you draft the best player available, I don't care where they're at. You can find a veteran to slide over here and here and here. Don't reach if this guy on your board is definitely ahead of the position of need. I also want to ask you this, and you

touched on this with David Hall earlier this week, and I thought you made a really good point about what's going on with the league when it comes to the position of wide receiver and how often they can change teams. Brad Biggs was asked and wrote his 10 thoughts regarding the NFL combine. And Biggs said regarding DJ Moore, Moore is well regarded around the league for the reasons the bears like him. He's durable. He's a solid locker room presence tough on the field. He's owed $24.5 million this season and on the third day of the league year, 15.5 million of his 2027 salary becomes fully guaranteed. That led some personnel men to conclude it would be challenging to trade him if the bears want to go in that direction.

One source was relatively confident the bears could find a taker for more and might get a day two pick in return. What do you think about that possibility? A day two pick? I'm doing it. You got to realize this. I understand he's one of your best receivers, but when you have a position like pass catcher on the Chicago Bears, if DJ comes back, I'm not so sure next year he's not their first. fourth pass catcher. Marshall called me crazy. I think you got Colson Loveland who's showing, in my opinion, I think he might be the best tied in the league. I'm not getting carried away. I've seen a lot of tight ends in my day. Played with Gronk, played with Zach Earch, played with

Brent Selich, played with Kobe Fleener. I don't know why threw Fleener in there, but I played with a lot of guys, is what I'm trying to tell you. Martell's Bennett, former bear. Colson Loveland is a guy that is uncommon. He has traits that not all of those guys have. I'm not saying he's better than Gronk right now. You have Luther Burden, who it could have been more impressed with his route running. He's just a dog, his clutch factor. Great. Rome, I'm projecting a little bit because I think, I still believe that Rome can improve. He is a guy that will continue to get better. So I like Rome. Then you got DJ. Make it 28 million. You have all these holes on your roster. Would you not trade one player, get a draft pick compensation in

return, and then allocate to three starters on positions of need? You can get an endrusher, a defensive tackle, maybe a lower end offensive tackle. With that, that $28 million? That's a lot of money. That's a lot of cheddar. That's $9 million per player we're talking about here. That is why I am pro trade DJ Moore if that makes sense from a allocation of resources. And I think you summed it up pretty well there, Clay. And it's going to be interesting to see because they're on the clock. They're running out of time to make this decision because of what you just said about the contract becoming guaranteed for 2027. Well, and Brad Biggs legitimizes it. You know, when you hear Brad Biggs talk about it,

you realize how it has actually permeated throughout the NFL. More with Clay Harbor coming up next. We will also get his thoughts on something that Bears' offensive line coach, Dan Rochard said on a podcast recently. So we'll do that and more next. Lela Rahimi, Marshall Harris, Mark Grody, Rahimi, Harrison Grody, on 1043, The Score. We've got some opportunities there, whether it's free agency or the draft, and certainly some of our own in the building as well,

that we're looking to continue to develop. And so we look at all the, all the opportunities out there. And we've got a lot of conversations going on for what that's going to look like. Oh, we're playing Grody's favorite song, and he doesn't even know. He's not in today. This is Rahimi Harrison Grody on 1043, the score. Marshall's shaking his head. Clay Harbor is here.

Clay, multi-year NFL veteran. He hosts the big pro football show on CHSN with Ruthie Pallinsky and David Haw. These two are getting ready for a vaudeville act tomorrow is what I see it at Snowball. Is this when we promo this? Why not? Why not? So tomorrow Clay Harbor and I will be co-imcing Junior Council's 37th annual Snowball Gala. And Clay's done this before.

He wrote me into doing it with him this year. Can't wait to see this. All proceeds directly benefit the pediatric and adolescents. HIV AIDS clinic at Ann and Robert H. Lurie Children's Hospital of Chicago funds that junior council raise help to provide scholarships for past and present patients of the clinic, a junior council van for transportation to and from the clinic, and much needed testing, medication, and services for uninsured patients and patients coming from low-income families. So this is a 21 and older event.

There is open bar. There's all the things. We've got Wendy City dueling pianos. They've got a DJ. It's going to be a good time. Clay and I will be ushering you into this evening. You can still get tickets, by the way. If you just Google Snowball Gala and Junior Council,

it'll come right up and buy some tickets. Clay and I will be in full effect. It's Saturday night, and where is it? That's a great question. Is it the Renaissance Chicago downtown hotel? It's from 8 p.m. to 12 a.m. midnight, I turn into a pumpkin. I will be headed to the house.

So if you want more of Clay and Mark, then there you go. It's for a good cause. Lurie Children's Hospital, as Marshall mentioned, and it will be a lot of fun. But if you hear more barbs between them than usual, now you know why. It should be entertaining tomorrow. I want to play some audio for the both of you. This is Dan Rochard, who we don't get to hear from very often, the Bears Offensive Line coach on the set with Toron Armstead podcast talking about how they're addressing left tackle. Listen, I'm transparent. I met with all three guys that played left tackle for us this past year, to include Theo Benedette, an undrafted young man from Canada. And I told all three of them this. I know what the left

tackle position looks like in this league. You are the standard. That's a rare player that comes along. But somebody has to play that position similar to that. And so it's a faceless, nameless guy right now. It has to become the way we play the game at left tackle, similar to what's being done at right tackle, is that player in the building? I think there's guys that have traits, but not consistent enough, not the way we want it done consistently. So that's to be determined. Now, you can address that in free agency. You can address that in the draft. But to find your play or Darnell's play, that requires, in my opinion, you took a couple of years, but it takes probably draft capital or asset we currently don't have.

So it's probably most likely either through free agency or it's here in the building. And my opinion is it's anywhere outside of here, it's here. So that's how we're going to approach it. We're going to work with the guys we got and we're going to make it better. If you're one of the three left tackles and you hear him, how does that make you feel? Well, not going to lie, in the first half, they had me because I was like, ain't nobody in the building that's filling up what he's talking about. But at the end, he softens the blow by saying, here are realistic avenues,

because it does take time to develop once you draft someone is free agency or someone in the building takes a hold of this job. And Ozzy Tripillo's not taking a hold of the job because the Patela is the thing. He physically can't. Yeah, he can't do that right now. My problem with this is if you're out, listen to this, driving, don't do this because you're on the road. But just go take a look at just Google free agent left tackles. It is a barren desert.

It's a wasteland out there. Braxton Jones might be your best option. Brad Biggs pointed that out. I've been saying, hey, maybe bring Braxton back. People will say this. He couldn't even play for the Bears last year. Yes, he was coming off of a serious ankle injury. Give him an offseason to get his confidence back.

to maybe gain some weight, get some strength up there, have a year in this system, and maybe you'll see a better version of Braxton Jones that can compete with Theo Benedict. And when you compete, you know, the old iron versus iron, you know, cliche, I think you'll make both these guys better and you'll have two guys that can start at left tackle, and I think that left tackle,

you're not as concerned about it because of Ben Johnson. Here's my question, ultimately, Clay. We heard Caleb Williams talk on the Max Crosby podcast about wanting to be the new. number one offense in football? Can they be the number one offense in football if they don't go out of what they already have and maybe bringing back Braxton Jones? Can they do that with that group that he's talking about? It makes it more difficult because you're going to have to a lot more guys when I say because of Ben Johnson because he's smart. He sees a matchup. He's going, okay, I'm chipping

that guy all day long. He goes, we're sliding left all day long. We're running play action boots. We're making sure we're getting out, getting this guy in the move all game long. When you saw what he did against Michael Parsons when he was healthy. Max Crosby. Some of these guys can still wreck games and wreak havoc, but Ben will have a plan for all of that. And the Bears look like they're bringing Colquette back. I don't think why they wouldn't.

I'm the leader of the Colcomet fan club in Chicago, and they got some tight ends that can block, help him with Colcomet. But I was very interested when he said we don't have the draft capital to do that. So that, to me, that's saying they're investing in defense. And that might have been a Freudian slip right there, to her like, hey, it's Chicago.

And some of my mocks that I'm doing, I'm starting, I'm putting left tackle up there as their first pick number 25. Caden Proctor, Monroe Freeling, two guys I'm looking forward to see at the Combine, but two guys that could play left tackle. Maybe you could find a guy in the second round, Caleb Tiernan from Northwestern to be like an Ozzie Tripillow type guy. But it seems to me that they are going to be leaning defensively this draft, especially after hearing Dan Rochar say that, a guy who will have that in front. No, I mean, it's telling. You know, and you could tell he was kind of explaining the process out loud, which I appreciate. It's always nice to hear from him. He did a wonderful job last year.

Great coach. So when he talks about it, it's a good thing, I think, that he says the standard is not where we're at right now. I think it would be counterproductive to Ben Johnson's agenda and what the goal of the team is if he said, like, this is okay. But they are in a very tough spot. and you're right, there's no such thing as a left tackle store. I joke about Trent Williams because Trent Williams was available at the left tackle store and it cost the 40-nighters a lot of their salary cap. That's why they had to cut a lot of people.

It wasn't just the contract to Brock Purdy, for example. Yeah, Trent Williams, pipe dream. I know I saw a lot of the aggregate accounts on X saying, hey, sign Trent Williams. Oh, yeah, why don't we just trade for Max Crosby while we're at it? You know, bring them all together. Signed Trey Henderson too. Unfortunately, I know Marshall back in high school used to play Madden, and he used to turn the salary cap off. So he could just sign and trade for all the big name players.

No, no, no, no. Never turned. Two things I never turn off. Salary cap, and then in NHL 94, we don't turn off sides off either. Clay, I don't think salary cap was available to turn off when we were in high school. That's a whoa, whoa, slow down. Marshall is definitely graduated from college. But there are a lot of constraints, and you heard Ryan Pohl say that.

listen to his interview with Rich Eisen, and he goes, hey, are you going to make a big splash in free agency? He goes, we will do something in free agency, but it will not be the same like we did last year. He goes, we have a lot more constraints. And that's him basically saying, we don't have the money. We don't have the cheddar to do that right now. And we actually have a cap number today. Oh, what's good? Ryan McCarthy, NFL PR guy posted. NFL clubs were informed today that the salary cap for the 2026 season will jump $22 million, which is great, per club to 301.2 million. Added another 77.6 million dollars in benefits, which benefits are good. And that's $378.8.8 million per club in player spending. Here's a list of the salary cap numbers.

2026, 301.2, 2025, 279.2. 2024, 255.4. 2023 was 224. 2028. 2028. 2021 was 182. It's gone from 2021 to 26, respective to inflation, actually. Even outpacing it. 182.5 to 301.2. NFL is doing good from a business standpoint. I play in the wrong era.

You definitely played in the wrong era with your old. Never mind. If you want more of this, then check out Snowball on Saturday night at the Renaissance Artel benefiting Lorry Children's Hospital. Really happy for you guys. That should be a lot of fun. Yeah, you should come, Layla.

I've got to get a dress. I've got to go outside. Tell me you have dresses. Don't worry about that right now. Oh, okay. Funny how that works. Let's come. Let's get the gang together.

I asked Ray, he turned me down flat. He said, sorry. I'm busy. I'm going to. Ray has a social life. Ray's family is always doing something fun. Occasionally, I get the joy of running into Ray's family, and that's a good time. Absolutely.

But this is some radio colleague stuff I'm doing Saturday night, from former colleagues of mine. Okay. fair enough. Ray and I both also. Kudos to wearing a matching yellow sweatshirture today. Ray, you end up dressing like your colleagues, and Ray and I are now on the same flow. Not as bad as the day Dan and I both wore salmon on the same day.

How about the time you and Dan both wore turtlenex? Dan and I matched a lot, and it kind of worried the both of us. Like unintentionally would wear certain colors on the same day. I know, isn't that disturbing? It was funny. When I saw it was funny. Do you remember the salmon day?

We were both like, what the hell is this? Salmon is a color. I wore salmon yesterday. I love salmon and turtlenex. Do you find that you and Worthy occasionally color coordinate or you and David occasionally color coordinate? Me and David will find each other color coordinator. And we're like, all right, which one of us is changing, David? But we just do it.

We just go and say, hey, whatever. I need David to guest star at Snowball and just like come in for that part of the discussion on the emceeing. Maybe I'll invite David. What do you think, Marshall? Do you think David will come? I'm only going at David. goes. I think if David comes, we're going to have a great time.

I'm only going if Vegas Haw goes. Yeah. Vegas Ha! Vegas Ha! Vegas Ha! Vegas Ha! David, I know you're listening. Clay, this has been a lot of fun. As usual. Yeah, Clay.

Appreciate it, guys. Looking forward to tomorrow, Marshall. Make sure your suit's pressed. We don't want the embarrassing creases in it. So make sure you're ready, throw on some cologne. You two should both be in Texas, but that's my own opinion. I do this. You're going to be doing most of the work tomorrow, so that's what I'm saying.

Make sure you read that script. Thanks, Clay. I'll be happy to carry you for four hours. Won't be the first time. By the end of the night, they will be punching each other in the arm at the podium for you to enjoy. A good cause for sure, snowball on Saturday night. Clay, thanks for filling in all week with us. Fine.

We'll share you with David for now. My pleasure, guys. Anytime. That's Clay Harbor. Multi-year NFL veteran. Do you have a pro football show tonight? We have no pro football show Friday night. We're off.

You've got to be outside. No football show. We got a big day tomorrow, so I'm going to be inside. He's getting ready to his run-of-show. Yeah. Run-of-show. I'm just picturing tap dancing practice. I'm going for a 15-mile bike ride after this.

I rode my bike here on the lakefront. It's like 50-something up to 50 degrees. It's supposed to get to 60. Really? Yeah. That's nice. See, that's a team. We're sharing our cardio today.

We're all on the same page. Coming up next, the NFL Players Association report cards have been released, and our friend Kael and Kailen Kaler is reporting for you and us. So we'll go over. over them next. And one of the stats that blows my mind is one that I should share with you because you'll want to hear it next.