Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - 5 On It & Danny Parkins is tired of Bears' stadium saga (Hour 3)

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

In the third hour, Leila Rahimi, Marshall Harris and Mark Grote discussed a variety of sports topics in the 5 On It segment. After that, FS1 host Danny Parkins joined the show to discuss why he isn’...t interested in discussing the Bears’ stadium saga. What Parkins does like to talk about is Bears quarterback Caleb Williams’ outlook and his MVP odds in 2026.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The score! We got five. It's time for five on it. Rahimi Harrison Rooney. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104-3, the score. Number one. A bill in the Iowa State Senate was introduced Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:00:17 seeking an expansion of its economic growth attraction program with the goal of luring an NFL franchise to the state, specifically the Bears. On a scale of one to 10 on the newly created, no chance in Helmeter trademark, where would you rate? just how unlikely it is that the Bears would select Iowa as the site for a new stadium.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Iowa, that's right. Iowa. That song was sick, by the way. I don't know what it was, but I like that. That was the Vince McMahon intro song when he wrestled on WWE. That's incredible. Maybe I should have been watching wrestling. Ten.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yeah, there's always time to start, Groves, just saying. Wrestling is always there for you. Ten, what are we doing here? Also, I know what you're doing, State of Iowa. I've seen your Hawkeyes play. You're like, oh, what's this offense out of the bears, huh? A little forward passers to you, a little trick play. Teams gaining yards.
Starting point is 00:01:19 You took this as an opportunity to rip the Iowa Hawkeyes. No, no, you don't get to steal the bears just because the Hawkeyes don't do enough on offense. I sat in the crowd, watched them play Michigan State this last year, and I had to listen to the fans beg for you to pass the ball. And that doesn't necessarily mean that you get to steal another team who actually throws it. And I know Iowa State is also good. And I understand that their coach left to go to Penn State. So I'm going to give the cyclone some love here too.
Starting point is 00:01:48 But now, now, just because the bears have more offense than the Hawkeyes doesn't mean you get to steal the team. I bet you had a good time there, though. I bet you had a good time on campus, though. I did. And they had an amazing comeback, actually. And my friend was like, what do you bet this ends up like the bears? And I was like, there's no way. And then it ended up like the bears.
Starting point is 00:02:05 and I felt stupid. I don't know that Anthony Heron is going to take too kindly to you taking Iowa's offense and raking it over the colds. He knows he played for the defense. He was where it was at. That's fair. That's fair. Go back to the meter though. So on a scale of 1 to 10 on the newly created no chance in Hades meter.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Who actually sings that song? Where's my Shazam? It's a good question because they had like, I believe when I in my mind, in my memory, of watching it as a kid. W.W.E. basically had like a house band. Oh, wow. And they had, like, a lot of songs you hear have that guy's voice on it. Are they still touring?
Starting point is 00:02:50 Everybody's still touring somewhere. I'll get to the bottom. Okay, please, thank you. But the number I'm putting on this, one to ten? 100. Not even trying to be hyperbolic. Ain't no way. Ain't no way.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Des Moines? I get it. This is at the Iowa Cubs. This isn't a jot through the summer. This is football and football season, and it's the Chicago Bears. That being said, I'm really excited about the Portage, Indiana thing. Just for the spectacle of it all. We're eagerly, eagerly awaiting to be able to tell you the news from the press conference.
Starting point is 00:03:28 That's going on right now. But yeah, it's a 100 for me, Groke. Same. May I use your 100? Yes. Does there enough laugh for me? Sherry is caring. To use 100.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I'll look at it slightly differently. I will say, I will hit them with a hundred to ten, whatever you want to say. Iowa is our friend, though. I love Iowans. I think there's some of the nicest people in the country probably. I go Iowa, Minnesota, just in my travels about the United States. And I have a lot of ties. My nephew went to Iowa.
Starting point is 00:03:58 My brother went to University of Iowa. So I've been, I've spent a lot of time at all of the Iouas. They're very nice people. And that's all I wanted to say. No, there's a lot of Hawkeye fans listen to the score, too. I found that out of my travels. Tons of people from Illinois go to Iowa. Big much of Shazam.
Starting point is 00:04:21 So that was actually the lead singer of the DX band, which was used for WWE intro. A lot of the WVE intro songs. His name was Chris Warren. He passed away in 2016. RIP, man, you made some jams, baby. He's dead. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:04:39 DX is pretty funny. That's right, Chris Warren. I'm starting to Chris Warren cover band. That's what's going to happen here. Or maybe I'll see if Spiegel, they'll become Chris Warren, tributosaurus, one of these nights. I love that. I'm working through this.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Draft Kings has Bears quarterback Caleb Williams' odds to win NFL regular season MVP for the 26th season listed at plus 1,500. Are you buying or selling Caleb as an MVP candidate next season? Bye, because all he has to work on is the mundane. He doesn't have to work on. the special, he's just got to work on some more plays with structure and his receivers have to catch the ball. Don't listen to me about it. Ben Johnson said it in his interseason press conference. That's why I said it. I'm just repeating head coach. So if that's the case, I like his chances.
Starting point is 00:05:28 He doesn't have to work on the special. He has that part down. He just has to work on like the plays and structure, which is coachable. So when you consider that piece of it, why shouldn't he be? If he had the completion percentage, he probably wasn't going to get to Drake May's completion percentage in the regular season. That was outstanding. Say he has a 65% completion percentage. What does that do for his yardage? And what does that do for his MVP candidacy? As long as the Bears are winning games, I got to go buy on the plus 1,500. In fact, I am going to place I wager today if I can get that plus 1,500 on Caleb Williams. I know it's far out, but do it. I have a bonus bet I have to use. So that's what we're going to do. Listen,
Starting point is 00:06:12 Caleb Williams has the weapons. He has the improved athleticism, awareness, whatever you want to call it. It felt like at the end of the season, he had finally mastered Ben Johnson's offense. Year 2 is only going to be better if he can, hey, grow to reach for that C over there. Oh, I got you. Yeah, yeah. If he can go ahead and just stay healthy. There we go.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I like his chances. The only thing he can't do is play the left tackle. So that's my one reservation on this. but I figure that Ben Johnson and Ryan Poles will somehow figure this out. Well, I knew this was going to happen. I might have even talked about it yesterday. And I know I talked on Take the North, and that is we are heading into a bear season.
Starting point is 00:06:56 We are going to hear things like this. We are going to answer questions like this. Can the bears go? It's what we do after bears have successful seasons. We take it to a 10. So this question is perfect for it. And to answer the question, yes, a candidate. I would not sit here and select or predict Caleb Williams to be the MVP,
Starting point is 00:07:17 but to say that he can't be a candidate, I think for MVP would probably be crazy at this point. So, yeah, I do think he could be a candidate. I'm buying. Number three. It's five out of nine, 104.3, the score with Lailorah Rahimi, Marshall Harris, and Mark Grody. And if you listen to our 11 o'clock hour, 1125, there was some discussion about Matt Shaw. So here's a little more on Matt Shaw. Do you think a solid spring training from Cubs infielder, Matt Shaw, would make him an attractive enough of a candidate to garner trade interest from teams around the league?
Starting point is 00:07:49 No, I don't think it would because I think he already is attractive enough to garner trade interests from teams around the league. And that was reporting by our own Matt Spiegel. Yeah, let's be honest here. Matt Shaw has many years of control. He's already got gold glove caliber defense at third base. You could talk about his offensive approach is still on the come, but that's okay. I think there are many, many teams right now who would take a shot, a stab at Matt Shaw. The problem is the Cubs know this, and so the price that they're asking for him is probably way too high.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I don't think anything's going to change as far as this go, because if he's good enough to, quote, unquote, make himself more attractive, he's also good enough to just be on the Cubs and be a cost-controlled option for the Cubs. So the answer is no, but not because I don't think that he can get to where teams want him. I just think he's already an attractive enough guy to garner the interest. I think that's, yeah, that's how I feel like. Matt Shaw's years of control plus the upside he had in the second half of last season. That's enough to have teams be interested. What have we said about third base?
Starting point is 00:08:57 It's not just a problem offensively for the Cubs or wasn't previous to the Alex Bregman signing, previous to a. Matt Shaw's upward surgence when it comes to offense. Third base was a problem league-wide in offensive production. And frankly, probably remains one this year. That's a position of need. So when you consider that, his value inherently goes up just because of that. And then whether or not the Cubs want to keep him,
Starting point is 00:09:24 it really comes down to the question we asked a little bit earlier on the show. How much is Matt Shaw's value worth when it comes to his years of control and what other teams think his upside is? They already traded away one third baseman for Kyle Tucker. So when you consider that, they understand the value of who that position can be, what that position can mean, and then also what the upside is on some of their prospects. A good spring training certainly wouldn't hurt for the Cubs and making Matt Shaw more attractive to the rest of the league. We all look at spring training differently.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And obviously, every GM understands that and knows him. But I think we're all landing in a pretty similar spot right here. The Cubs are not trading Matt Shaw unless they get a lot back. And that's because of what you guys have indicated, the years of control. The fact that he was a first round talent who still may have a really high ceiling that none of us knows about right now. So he's a valuable piece. If you can get something really good for him, then you trade him. Otherwise, he is perfect to have on this team in terms of a depth place
Starting point is 00:10:27 or a guy that gets a decent amount of playing time, depending on what Craig Counsel wants. to do. Hey, hey, hey, hey. As far as spring training performances go and raising your value, I have three words for you. Gage, Tater, working. That ruined the next Gage Workman. That ruined spring training for you, didn't it? Didn't help?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Who's going to be the next Gage Workman? That's the real question. Can't anybody be? Scott Kingery. You can't predict these things. You can never predict these things. Can you do that? already established because Gage was a
Starting point is 00:11:03 Rule 5 guy. I have to see, I have to I have to look through you. I'll get back to you on that answer. Gage workman. Thater. Why didn't you think not the Tater? He provided us a lot of content this time of year last year. We got through a march thanks to him.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Him and the idea of Nick Chubb going to the Bears. Remember that? Those were the days. Yeah. That sounds like a radio show, a sports radio show. Tater and the Chub. And the workman. Yo. I heard what I said after I said it.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Tater played for the White Sox last year, too, right? Didn't he want revenge on the Cubs? Didn't he say that? He did not get revenge on the Cubs. Who's got revenge for Gage, though? Who's venging Gage Tater Workman? We're, Marshall is always looking out for Gage. I pretty much say Tater and Workman like it's one last name now.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Tater Workman. Do you know where he is now? What organization he is a partner? Is he back with the Tigers? He is with the Tigers. All right. Now do your mean Mercedes. That is so random.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Where are they now? Now do Diane Visayato. The Yerminator? Is that the player you want back? Like when we talked about, Alessi Ramirez playing for Cuba? I bet he's playing somewhere. He's playing in Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:12:16 He's playing in Venezuela. Okay. How old is Jermaine Mercedes these days? 32. He should have been on our, maybe he was playing internationally. I don't know. Remember we're talking about that yesterday?
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah. Sorry about that. Your main Mercedes in the brain. Number four. The Bulls take on the Celtics tonight. Pre-game starts at 615 on 104-3. The score and the Bulls Radio Network. Shout out to Chuck Bill and Alyssa.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Are we more likely to see a Nikola Vuccivich revenge game? Shout out Vucci-Main. Or an Anthony Simon's revenge game tonight. I think Amphroni Simons probably goes off for more points individually than Booch. Is that wild? I don't think that's wild, but I think revenge game implies the dub, and I think the Celtics are getting the dub, and I could see Vooch having 15 and 8 off the bench,
Starting point is 00:13:07 because he's one guy who had to fit into a highly successful system with the Celtics, whereas Anthony or the Anferno, as he has been referred, has had to slip in along with several other players, seven players in total into a brand new system. They still know nothing about because they haven't had any practice time. I don't think Vooch needs a revenge game. I think Vooch is perfectly happy that he's been traded to the Boston Celtics. Don't you?
Starting point is 00:13:32 I mean, hasn't Vooch for the last two years been like along with all of us kind of thrown at like, what are we doing? What are we doing here? What do you want for me? What do you want from this team? Is this team going anywhere? Do you want to trade me? Do you not?
Starting point is 00:13:43 I think he got a little bit of closure and he gets to go to Boston. The Vooch thank you game or the Vooch closure game. What do you want to designate this as? Yeah, it would be different if it was at the United Center, I suppose. But I just don't think Vooch's. which is going to come at the Bulls very hard. Don't mind me. I'm just refreshing to see if the news is broken yet out of Portage.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Oh. Is there any quotes coming out of Portage right now? News Channel 3, WWMTTV from West Michigan, reports that in anticipation of increased traffic, the city of Portage released a traffic plan to manage the upcoming grand opening of their raising canes. See, they are Bears Stadium ready. They already have a race.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Raising Keynes. Oh, my goodness. I have so much to say about that. I mean, I'm glad that they, that is, if you want to know what cities are supposed to do, frankly, it's stuff like that. That's, that's the job. I hope that Raising Keynes has a double drive-thru because that's very efficient because, as we know, Kane's big drive-through crowd. Listen, there's two things I know. Chicken Place drive-thrus at lunchtime, abject chaos.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And you should probably have a plan to, like, manage the ingress and egress around them. That's fair. Late night as well. Raising Keynes is open until 2 a.m. or 3 a.m.? Oh, really? I did not know that. Depending on where. So for anyone who just is tuning in, that's a good reset.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Portage, Indiana is making a push for the bears to build a stadium there. So good luck to them. More on that at one. Yeah, we're trying to figure that out. Yeah, we're trying. We're monitoring. I'm actually monitoring the news. Good reset, Ray.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Number five. This is 500 on 101. four three the score. And this is our final question. The Texas Rangers are giving away. No chance. Oh, God. No chance!
Starting point is 00:15:36 Okay, here we go. The Texas Rangers are giving away a Nolan Ryan bloody lip replica jersey on May 29th. Is this the greatest giveaway of all time? And if not this, then what? Oh, I see you gesturing to me because I grew up a Texas Rangers fan. Laila Rahimi. Frankly, for a long time, the best pitcher they had was even just the concept of Nolan Wright, even though he had long left the organization.
Starting point is 00:16:03 It is a good giveaway. As far as the greatest of all time, I don't know. There's been some amazing giveaways that teams have done. So the better question is, how do you feel about having a replica of blood on your person? You know, like, are you squeamish? Then you probably don't love the idea. If somehow they could do a giveaway like with Robin Ventura in the headlock, you know, Now, maybe now we're talking.
Starting point is 00:16:27 That's the thing. But like the Hawk nesting doll that the White Sox gave away, for example, or even the 108 bobblehead doll, the fact that they gave away a bobblehead doll devoted to a section of dudes who willingly watch the game from seated behind a foul pole is pretty amazing. So I don't, I don't know. I feel like I've seen some good giveaways in my day. I got the answer. My favorite anyway.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Pat Hughes sweater giveaway day. They actually gave away a sweater base. on Pat Hughes's awful taste in sweaters. It's a beautiful thing. How did Pat He's filled about that? I own one. Pat is what you call a gamer when it comes to stuff like that. He's in whatever you need to do.
Starting point is 00:17:08 That sounds good to me. I've got all the sweaters. We can do whatever you guys want to do. So my guess is Pat was very agreeable with it, as he tends to be. Aw. Yeah. He's an agreeable man. Hello, Pat Hughes.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Is the Raising Cains paying for the stadium? I'm sorry. I'm still working on this. Will there be a raising canes inside the stadium? There better be. I think this is the topper for me because selfishly, my favorite childhood athlete growing up was involved in the play that created the bloody lip. It was a grounder back to Nolan Ryan, which he did not handle very well.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Hence, he ended up with a bloody lip. It was off the bat of one, Bo Jackson. We didn't love Bo Jackson. Amen. People who don't know any better. He's your favorite player's favorite player. Exactly. Right?
Starting point is 00:17:54 At this point, Bo Jackson. Yeah, he's a legend. He is. White Sox. Well, I will tell you, if you don't mind, I'm going to throw one in. Because you gave, Grotie, you had my favorite Cubs one, of course, the Pat Hughes sweater. Yeah. But there is a favorite White Sox giveaway that I have, and it was 2017 when the White Sox gave away the White Sox, the Hawk Harrelson alarm clock.
Starting point is 00:18:16 The Hawk's right. And it released six of Hawks, well-known broadcasting calls. Stretch! You can put it on the board. Rack him up. Mercy. He gone. This ball game is over.
Starting point is 00:18:28 That was the alarm clock. You could wake up to those. That's amazing. Whoever, hey, text in 312, 644, 64, 67. If you have a Hawk alarm clock that you wake up to, to this day, text us in. Oh, that would be great. I actually, I think I have the, I know I have the Hawk Nesting doll. I don't know that I got the Hawk clock, but I need to look.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Amazing. Amazing give a look. We'll tell you about Rico Petricelli. That's what I like, philosophical hawk alarm clock as opposed to the... Like when he compared Chris Bryant to Todd Frazier. Remember that? Let me tell you about Diane Visayato. I know you're talking about your main Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:19:02 KB got put on the 60-day aisle to start the C. Oh, I feel so sad for him. Who? It's my heart. Yeah. That does suck. Should we go Philosophical Hawk with Danny Parkins? I mean...
Starting point is 00:19:15 Wow. I could do Stephen A's job, guys. It's not that hard. Danny Parkins QB1 party All are invited Host of Fox Sports Ones First thing first
Starting point is 00:19:32 Coming in number six though The team that should be the favorites in the NFC North though The odds makers say they're the third best team My Chicago Bears Bears Why can't the Chicago Bears be the best offense in football?
Starting point is 00:19:42 The Bears, plenty of reason to doubt them Caleb Williams, no Former host of 670 the score Before he abandoned us That's the Caleb Williams custom baby Jersey number one is going to the Raptors. You guys made it seem like a Chicago Bears fans.
Starting point is 00:19:58 We had our guy. Danny Parkis, all these guys. Danny Parkins on 1043, the score. Hey, Danny. How are you? It's time for Danny Parkins. He joins us via the Circa Sports Illinois hotline. Download the Circa Sports app today. You can watch him on the newly expanded First thing's first OT from 4 to 5 on Fox Sports 1.
Starting point is 00:20:21 He is at Danny Parkins on X, and he joins us on Twitch. dot TV slash the score Chicago. Danny, how are you? I'm great, Leila. How are you? Good. We've been playing the game of Bear Stadium. Stop us when you've heard this before because you were also a part of that game at one point in your job duties. And the latest on the list has become Portage, Indiana and Iowa. So we've got that going for us right now in stadium search. Idaho would make sense. I also said Idaho. But yeah, at that point, yeah, it might as well.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah. I mean, you said it was part of my job responsibilities when I was there. Spiegel could attest to this. I hated the story then, and I hate the story now. I think it's the worst sports talk. Like, oh, God, like, it's, it's joyless. Oh, in this location, the tax rate is this. And in this location, the tax rate is that. And here it would be this. And all at the end of the day is making billionaires a little richer. Like, I just, I just, I want the Bears to have a good stadium. I care about that. I would like it to be more accessible to fans.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I would like it to be open air or retractable roof if it's so important to get one Super Bowl. So it's not I have no opinions on the stadium, but like the process of it. I mean, they hired Kevin Warren to get the job done and he hasn't. It's been an objective failure at this point. And, you know, I just like wake me when it's done. I do not want to know how the sausage is made in this story at all. I just do not care. I know.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I know. Show me the baby. Don't tell me about the labor pains. Do you have a care as far as where this stadium is? Is that kind of you don't care about that either? No. Okay. I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:10 I don't like going to, I don't like going to NFL games. Unless you have a robe on, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I went to, I went to, that's right. That's exactly right. But if it's that level of game, Grotie, like if it's that level of game to get me to invest in the tickets and the flight and figure out the logistics and freeze my ass off, I also would do that in Northern Indiana. Like, you know what I mean? Like, like if the game rises to that level of significance, the location of it is not terribly important. Like, the bears obviously want this to be in Arlington Heights. You know how I know? They bought 300 acres of land, like, you know, to try to do it out there because they want to make money from the surrounding things that they could own on that ground.
Starting point is 00:23:05 The television networks wanted to be at its current location because it's an awesome visual to have the stadium with the city backdrop right behind it. But me personally, like me, it doesn't impact me one way or the other where the stadium. stadium is. I think it's joyless. Well, then let's bring up a topic that I know gives you lots of joy. No, we're talking about whatever you want to talk about. No, this is. I got something for you because I know you like weed and gambling. That's what I know about you.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And the gambling part, we were just talking gambling. Were we not? Caleb Williams odds to, per draft Kings, to win the NFL regular season MVP next year for 2026 listed at plus 1,500. Are you buying or selling Caleb as an MVP candidate next season, Danny? Now we're talking. Wee and gambling. This is a topic.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I have no idea why weed was relevant to that question. I want to think about things that you like, stand-up comedy, weed. And I'm not saying I don't like all these things, Danny. I'm just trying to think of you. I was going to say, didn't we hit the pen together before the desertment show? At which we saw Colquette. Yeah. He did not hit the pen.
Starting point is 00:24:29 For the record, Cole Commet did not hit the pen. Yeah, no, we saw him after the pen. Yeah, that was post-pen. Yeah, I spilled some beer on my hand and then shook his hand. Right. And Danny, and Danny, to his credit, this was one of the most precious things ever. Danny would not allow me to buy liquor for him because I don't drink. And he said, no, no, no, grody.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I'm not going to make you buy me a drink now. So that was a precious moment. You wanted to buy my beer because I bought the tickets. Exactly. Right. The least I could do. You know what? If I already bought the tickets, I'll just tack on your water on top of it.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I didn't want to make you buy me a miller or whatever it was. What was the question? Caleb MVP. Plus $1,000. That's right. Listen, 15 to 1 is not like, obviously I'd be thrilled to turn $100 into $1,500 or a dollar into $15. It's great ROI, obviously. But I would have liked it to be a little bit longer odds than that.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Caleb is going to be a very popular MVP choice, because he's a very popular player, and he's very fun to watch. And so I don't think that there's a lot of value in that price, to be honest with you. But I absolutely believe that he is the exact profile of player that can win MVP and should be considered among the favorites for MVP. You can't bet awards in New York. So this actually didn't get on my radar, which is a terrible job by me. Can you give me the players ahead of Caleb for MVP?
Starting point is 00:25:58 I could probably guess. Josh Allen is better than him, obviously. I think he's at 6 to 1, Josh. I have my Jeff King's app open right now. Here we go to be a second. Josh Allen's got to be better. Stafford's got to be better. Who else?
Starting point is 00:26:13 Does Lamar Jackson get back into the conversation? It's Drake May. Drake May still in the conversation? Is Drake May better than Caleb? Right. Is Mahomes better than Caleb? Hey, and this draft class is like the Dunkin' Donuts race at the United Center. It's like you don't really, is it Jaden Daniels starts to take the lead?
Starting point is 00:26:31 Oh, no, Drake May has it. But then Caleb has this year. It's really fascinating to watch this particular draft classes. They all jockey for position. I once had a guy who ran the stadium operations at the United Center and my buddy's seats, Ben Kaplan, who I co-wrote Pipeline at the pros, available now. They were actually his seats, and they knew the guy who did the scoreboard operator, and he would turn around and flash one, two, or three ahead of the Dunkin' Donuts race.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And the first time I figured out that we had insider trading on that, true story, I was like, I don't know, 11. And I turned to the guy next to me and said, I'll bet you five bucks, it's cupy coffee. And he got Biggie Bagel and dashing donut, and it was an even-money wager, and I swindled this guy out of five bucks. True story. Danny, I'm not surprised by that. By the way, I have the updated odds for you.
Starting point is 00:27:20 The favorite is Josh Allen at plus 550. Lamar Jackson closely behind at plus 650. Patrick Mahomes is plus 1,000, as are Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, and Drake May. Dak Prescott is plus 1,300. Matthew Stafford is plus 1,400. And joining Caleb Williams at plus 1,500 is Jordan Love. Okay, so eight quarterbacks in front of him. He's tied for ninth with Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You know, I mean, listen, that feels about right. Right. I don't think that Mahomes, I mean, he's incredible, obviously, but I don't know that they have enough offensive weapons for him to have an amazing statistical year. Herbert's a pretty obvious case with his tackles coming back and McDaniel coming in. Stafford statistically would have to do exactly what he did this year, which is hard to imagine.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Joe Burroughs right there. Joe Burroughs right there. Yeah, Burroughs got to stay healthy, but he's right there. Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that feels about right. I think, you know, eighth or ninth on the on the quarterback list for MVP, I got to be honest. Like, that that feels fair, and I wouldn't bet it. But I just, I think that the bears are in a very interesting spot. I think the value on betting the bears is actually more in, like, betting on the team. You could get them at 27 to 1 right now to win the Super Bowl and roughly half of that to win the NFC. And the only reason their odds are so low is because, you know, the odds makers like Detroit and Green Bay a little more. But if you believe that the Bears are the
Starting point is 00:28:56 best team in the NFC North and should be actually favored in the division, that means there's value across the board, them in the NFC North and to win the whole NFC. And I can promise you this, if the Bears make a trade for Miles Garrett or Max Crosby or someone like that, those odds are going to skyrocket. Did you say Miles Garrett? If you want to bet the Bears, I would do it now. Yeah, listen, Miles Garrett, everyone is assuming that's not going to happen. And okay, maybe not. He just got the huge contract extension, but he loved Jim Schwartz. Jim Schwartz just resigned as the defensive coordinator in Cleveland because, you know, he didn't get the head coaching job. You know, Miles was just on Micah Parsons's podcast a couple of days ago saying that the next step for him is to hoistle Lombardi and be Super Bowl MVP.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Like, don't see a real path to that happening in Cleveland. They need to tear it down. They don't have a franchise quarterback. They got 46 million committed to Deshawn Watson next year. They got a first-time head coach. They got two first-round picks. If I was running Cleveland, I would be looking at trading 30-year-old defensive player of the year Miles Garrett for multiple first-round picks. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Well, and Max Crosby has been such a buzzword. for us here. You know, the question becomes whether or not Kling Kubiak wants to keep him and build her at him. And then there was the report that he has reportedly said he's played his last down already for the Raiders. What do you make of it? Yeah, I don't know. It was it. Cubiak said at his press conference yesterday that he obviously wants to keep him. And Crosby has said, you know, that he's been at the facility and has been participating and working out. So they're all saying the right thing. But that's another, yeah, it's another obvious spot to, you know, to get to be bad. Like it's probably valuable for them to be bad.
Starting point is 00:30:38 If they're going to draft Mendoza and not trade out of that spot, you know, having multiple first round picks next year to build around him, to build out his offensive line, to build out his defense, whatever you end up needing because they've got a ton of talent holes there. Trade a great pass rusher on an awful team is like a great closer on an awful baseball team. Like it's not terribly valuable. Like you want to have a great pass rusher on a great off. offense so that you're playing from out in front so the other team needs to pass a lot so you can
Starting point is 00:31:09 tee off on the other team's quarterback. What good did Miles Garrett's 24 sacks have on a team that has the sixth pick in the draft? So I think that both of those guys should be traded. A little Twitch stream feedback here, Danny, if you don't mind, somebody who goes by the Triano Kid post, who is this guy? And he needs to step up his game. So I just want to make sure that you know that that's the feedback we're getting on the kids got a lot of balls he's on the clock right now Bobby tree our guy Robbie tree yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah a lot a lot a lot of balls
Starting point is 00:31:48 I did want to ask you this too Danny is it was your guy Kevin Wilds who I think was the first guy or you guys had the first show at least as a group to talk about Drake May for MVP I feel like that came on very early in the season We had the discussion here about how if you put Caleb Williams into Drake May's shoes, I think, in that game, it's a different outcome for Boston. You know, what do you think of just the comparison and the discussion? What has it been like amongst you all this past week after the Super Bowl? Well, we, you know, we haven't done Drake v. Caleb this week, but I know that's been a big thing in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Listen, Drake was not good in the playoffs and he was awful in the Super Bowl. And I think a small piece of that is the shoulder injury that we've, like, that he heard it in the Denver game and he played through it with the pain-killing injection. But I also think it's a couple of things can be true. Drake May, I said I would have voted him for MVP this year. I thought all of the advance numbers pointed to him and he did not have Sean McVeigh. He did not have Pooka Nakua, who was first team all pro, and he did not have Devante Adams who led the league in touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:32:57 His defense was better than New England's during the regular season, and his running game was better than New England's all season. like Stafford's was, excuse me. So I thought that doing more with less, May actually had a better candidacy than Stafford did, though it was very close. So I thought May would have gotten my MVP vote this year. But to your question about the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:33:16 yeah, I think Caleb would have done better because his magical trait is escaping sacks and escaping pressures and his mobility. Drake May is a good athlete, but he took a ton of sacks this year. He just set the record for most sacks and most fumbles in a single postseason. But Drake May's superhuman ability is he completed 70 or 73% of his passes this year. Caleb Williams was below 60. So they are both elite quarterback talents and elite
Starting point is 00:33:45 quarterback prospects, but their skill sets and the things that they are exceptional at are very different. So in that particular Super Bowl, yes, I think Caleb's escapability and improvisation would have led to him having a better game than Drake, but Caleb's inability to have, a high floor of accuracy, kept him from even sniffing the MVP conversation this year, of which I thought Drake should have won. Well, Danny, as usual, good time to chat, good talk. And I feel better about at least we got to inform you of the award results here or the award odds.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yeah, I'm embarrassed. You can check out. Like, I don't know, New Jersey or something. Well, said, I have no problem betting MVP and betting awards. I just, I honestly, like, I hadn't even occurred to me. Look, I have too many round one unders on the pebble beach. pro-am this week. It was raining during the week and then there's no wind in the forecast for Thursday. Half the field starts at Spyglass. Half the field starts at Pebble Beach. So like under 69
Starting point is 00:34:44 and a half on, you know, Maverick McNeely and Russ Henley and Siwu Kim and Victor Hovland. Like those are just, that's just free money that these places are hanging on the board. So I've been spending my time gambling on that this week. All right. You heard it from Danny first. Danny, thanks for joining us today. Thanks, Danny. Bye, Danny. Bye guys. Bye. We'll see you in Idaho at the new stadium. Say it a Bob for us.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Bob Tree. Danny Parkins. Hey, guess what just happened in the NFL today? What happened? What? A dude we know is back at a job we know. I don't know how it's going to go for him. As if you needed more reasons to pay attention to the Packers next.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Rahimi Harrison Grody. Midday's 10 to 2. on 104 3 the score. So guess what we found out? This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 1043, The Score. This is by Pro Football Talk. Do we know anybody who works there? Report Packers to name Luke Getsy
Starting point is 00:35:59 quarterback's coach. That'll fix it. By the way, the guy that we know that works at Pro Football Talk, Mike Floreal, join us at 11 a.m. tomorrow. Luke Getsy. We had to wait for Modis today. So Modis bombed Mike Florio from his slot.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And Mike Floreo had his lunch at his preferred time. Let me do this SAT style. Luke Getsy is to the Green Bay Packers as Matt Nagy is to the Kansas City Chiefs. Both tried it elsewhere and then they went running back home because it just wasn't working out in the real world. They left home. They went to school. They went to see the world. The world wasn't good.
Starting point is 00:36:38 So both coaches. Matt Nagy has a good job. This is Matt Nagy Post Bears. Goes back to Andy Reed. And now Luke Getzzi is trying to get a restart with Matt LaFleur or the flower, as Mike Mulligan, our Molly, would call him. How do you guys like me now?
Starting point is 00:36:55 LaFleur is literally the flower in French. I know. I get that. It is. It is, yes. Here's the plot twist. For Matt Nagy, he went straight back to Kansas City. Luke Getzzi managed to mix in an office. offensive coordinating job with the Raiders in there.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Listen. Was it a job or was it a temporary hold? He got paid. He got that job. There's no doubt. Can't take that away from Luzzi. Probably not. What was this title again in Las Vegas?
Starting point is 00:37:26 Was he not the offensive coordinator? Yeah. So I noticed that a lot of people try to be offensive coordinators can't get jobs. And yet here's this, he's not even a retread. He's like when you go to the scrap yard and find like a tire. and you realize it's got a few holes in it, that's probably how it ended up there. And then you plug the hole. I don't think he didn't deserve another chance after the Bears.
Starting point is 00:37:46 That quick? Well, after the performance he put up? I mean, that's fair. Like, very quickly. But obviously, maybe Vegas looked at it at Las Vegas Raiders, looked at it as like what could you have done in that situation with that roster, with that quarterback Justin Fields, who has been very bad even since he left the Bears. Do you know what the logic was?
Starting point is 00:38:07 Do you remember they said it? They said he beat us with Tyson Bajent, and that was why he was intriguing to them. Wait, what now? Yeah. There was a report that came out from the Raiders. That the reason they were enamored with him was because he beat them with Tyson Bajent. Right. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:38:26 How do you feel now? And so now the Rum Springer, if you will, to make an Amish comment, he got to leave and go out and see the world, as you said, and came back. and are they welcome with the open Is he going to get another shot as an offensive coordinator is my first question. See, that expression on your, that's my point, Mark. Well, it all depends on how well things go. We know how it works.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I mean, think about the Bears. They just, the Bears had a great season. One terrific season with a first year head coach. And the guy who didn't call plays, the guy who didn't even see the players, Bears players, Declan Doyle, got a job. as an offensive coordinator calling play. So when you ask me, is he going to get another job?
Starting point is 00:39:12 I understand what you're saying. Does he deserve another job based on what he's done and what he hasn't done? But he might get another job. Declan Doyle was 29 when he left this nest. And I think he was also related to a tree of a very hot commodity in Ben Johnson in his office. And Declan Doyleynne Doyle was really capable in press conferences. I know they're just press conferences. But I always thought he actually provided real answers when we asked.
Starting point is 00:39:37 for them. That is not how I felt about Luke Gatsy. How many times do the word execution come out of his mouth as to what the bears were supposed to have done with yet another play that he called up that didn't work? Luke Getsy felt like many of his predecessors and probably many coordinators throughout the league, they look for ways to not say things. That is very typical with all courts. As a matter of fact, the other two coordinators of the Bears this year did a good job of not saying things.
Starting point is 00:40:06 But I agree with you. Declan Doyle. did have the gift, a rare gift of actually communicating real football stuff to us, not insulting our sensibilities, without giving away the game plan. But if players can't run your offense, they can't execute it, and you can't communicate, then what are you doing? But they don't have the, it's always a game to coaches and coordinators. They don't have to communicate to us.
Starting point is 00:40:32 They have to be able to communicate to their team. When they're with us, they're playing dodgeball half the time. dodging our questions. They're looking for ways, different answers to the questions, opposed to directly answering them. Declan Doyle did have a gift of talking about football without giving away secrets, and Luke Getsey did not. I'll say this. Luke Getsey has a job, and I just remember several different coordinators that aren't part of that good old boy network, if you will. Byron Luff, which comes to mind off the top of the head, that once they had a season that wasn't up to snuff, never heard from again in the pro ranks.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I don't think that's a coincidence. That's all I'm saying. So he is out of the NFL right now? Yeah, he's working for like Colorado with Dionne Sanders. Yeah, that's pretty bad. Somebody could give him a chance to do something. Yeah, like who's his, where's his safe place? Where's his Andy Reed?
Starting point is 00:41:23 You know, where's his Matt LaFlor? Where's his flower? Where's his Trace Armstrong? Yeah. That's the tree that he came from, the Trace Armstrong tree. It's tough out here. Yeah. For some people, not all.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah. I see what you're saying. I do. I do, I do. And I see what you mean with communicating with the media. But all I'm saying is if you're blaming your players for running off and say can't run, and you can't communicate with us, it would make sense as to why it wasn't communicated well to your team when you needed it to either. It's a bigger discussion to the Justin Fields part of this. But Justin Fields, or excuse me, it appeared that Lou Geetzie did not have a good quarterback to work with.
Starting point is 00:42:03 It was Gatsky. Getsky. Getzky. Not to be the great one. Not that Luke Getzzi is a good coordinator or deserves another chance, but didn't exactly have a roster. Well, and that's when you present Las Vegas. Viva. He had another team.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Absolutely. So that's why he had to go back home. He even knew it. He's run out of jobs for the moment. So we went back home. You're right. For the moment. For the moment.
Starting point is 00:42:28 That's the best part of that sentence. Do we all know how it works? All right. So updates from my Portage News Searching. Number one, that was the Raising Cains and Kalamazoo Portage, Michigan. Sorry. Number two, the plan has been unveiled.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Can't wait. And they gave us a video. So we're going to play it for you next.

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