Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - 5 On It & Jack O'Callahan celebrates Team USA men's hockey winning gold medal (Hour 3)

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

In the third hour, Leila Rahimi, Marshall Harris and Mark Grote discussed a variety of sports topics in the 5 On It segment. After that, 1980 Team USA men's hockey standout Jack O'Callahan joined the ...show to reflect on the Americans beating Canada, 2-1, in overtime Sunday to win the gold medal. The 2026 team's gold medal was the first since O'Callahan and the "Miracle on Ice" team had won gold 46 years earlier. Later, Rahimi, Harris and Grote previewed the NFL Combine.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 It's time for five on it. Rahini Harrison Rooney. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104-3, the score. I got five on it. Number one. Over the weekend, Bears' president's CEO, Kevin Warren, provided the following update to Crane's Chicago business
Starting point is 00:00:17 about the team's effort to build a new stadium. Quote, we continue to work with Illinois leadership and appreciate the progress being made, unquote. So that is Kevin Warren to Crane's Chicago business. So here's the question. Do you feel like you've learned anything about where the Bears stand in their push to build a new stadium. That was the funniest, unintentionally funny line I've heard in a while.
Starting point is 00:00:45 We are still talking to them. Oh, that's interesting because you're out here being like, well, this is the most meaningful efforts in our stadium planning efforts to date efforts, efforts. And you were talking about Indiana. And then it's like, well, we don't have a cell location. well we don't have everything hammered out yet the state does the state is like hey here's how we're paying for this and x y and z to an extent we still don't know what the split is of the revenue and how we get paid back and all of that stuff and all of that is a big all of that so i think i think what happened
Starting point is 00:01:20 here was they had to walk it back a bit and they continue to walk it back and this is a state acknowledging that they're still very much in talks with the state of illinois you know why because there's another meeting scheduled with the ILGA for this week. We get to do this all over again this week, Marshall. So here's where I am. Here's what I've learned. The Bears want to get a stadium built on their terms, but understand that it's not going to be completely on their terms.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I don't think they want to build in Indiana. I think they want to build at Arlington Heights, but they understand if the Arlington Heights thing doesn't work out, they will build in Indiana. I think it's that simple but not simple, because I still don't know what their financial threshold is for how much they're willing to put into the stadium point-blank period as far as having in Arlington Heights versus having in Indiana.
Starting point is 00:02:12 We know about the $2 billion of their own money if it's an Indiana thing. But I think push comes to shove, they want to build in Arlington Heights and they're going to do everything in their power to make sure that that happens. And if it's outside of their power to get it done in a way that they don't think financially they can do it
Starting point is 00:02:28 and it makes sense, then yeah, they'll end up in Indiana. But that's all I've really learned. They're both, they've let everybody know, publicly, privately, there's no secrets. Indiana and Illinois are vying to have the Bears build in those two places. What I learned or maybe had confirmed, we collectively had confirmed, is Kevin Warren and the Bears hurt everybody's feelings in the state of Illinois when they released that statement on Thursday, both.
Starting point is 00:02:59 hosting the progress that they had made in Indiana. Everybody got rattled by that. And so Kevin Warren and the Bears came back and said, paraphrasing, we like you too, Illinois. We have renewed focus in Arlington Heights. And it's what I've been talking about the entire time. Although it's going to go to the house this week, as Layla said, for Indiana.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Then it goes back for a quick amendment vote for the Senate for some of the amendments that we talked about last Thursday. And then the governor will sign it probably on Friday. And that means that Illinois still has time to come up with a deal. So I've learned that everything is still sort of the same right now other than the fact that Kevin Warren heard everybody's feelings. Number two. What's the biggest question you have for Bears' general manager Ryan Poles
Starting point is 00:03:51 and coach Ben Johnson tomorrow when they speak at the NFL Combine? Hi, Lela here. First time listener, long time calling. What would you like? What would you like to know? If you get my joke, I talk more than I listen. Okay, so are you going to do stuff with the defense? Like, how much of the roster on the defensive side of the ball is changing?
Starting point is 00:04:12 Because by my math, you have four safeties who all need deals, and you have a linebacker who's likely going to be a cap casualty, except even despite being on the IR, he led your team in tackles in the regular season. And I know the other one is hurt. And then that leaves the defensive line where guys are also heard. So how much of your capital and draft capital are you spending on the defense? Thank you, XO, XO, XO, Laila. Thanks, Lail's.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Except I probably wouldn't say XOXO, Gossip Girl. But that's kind of where I'm at, and I do feel like it is a big Gossip Girl, because somebody's in, somebody's out. I don't know what's happening. And other people have got deals going on. Everybody seems very attractive. I love Gossip Girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I do, too. I didn't act like you didn't watch Gossip. I did. I did not watch Gossip. I admit it. I can admit it. I did not watch it. You know you love me.
Starting point is 00:05:00 XOXO Gossip Girl. Grady and I are teenagers. We are. We are. I did have a girlfriend that I will admit she was the one that made me. Not a maid is strong, but watch it. And I loved it. I couldn't get enough of it.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Couldn't get enough of it. It was good. Yeah, I never got on the gossip girl train. Maybe I'll catch reruns. Grody Stalin. No particular order at some point in my future. But as far as the biggest question I have for, Ryan Poles, Ben Johnson.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I mean, and bruh, how y'all feel about that left tackle spot? Oh, yeah, that. How do you feel about left tackle? Are you understanding what usually happens when that type of injury, the one that Ozzie Triple-O suffered, happens in the rate of return and success rate after returning?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Are you just as kind of between a rock and a hard place about left tackle as you were this time last year? Or has anything changed? That's the question for both the coach. and the GM, mainly for the GM, but obviously Ben Johnson has to scheme that, and I think I still believe the head coach is in charge. That would have been my first question, too,
Starting point is 00:06:08 but I'll go to my alternate question. Is Charles in charge? Charles in charge? Yes. Of my days and my nights. Oh, man. Of my wrongs and my rights. So you could pretty much sing all those 80s sitcoms.
Starting point is 00:06:18 By y'all gossip girl, I was lamenting the loss of the sitcom theme song. You know what Gossip Girl really just was. You know you love me. X OXO Gossip Girl and then some sort of like beat. I still couldn't believe it was him, though, that was gossip girl. Grody. I'm sorry. There's lots of hymns on the show.
Starting point is 00:06:37 No gossip girl talk until you watch the other guys. Fair enough. You guys always get me with the other. Like I have no excuses left. You're just going to be better for it. I guess here's a question that I would ask during the course of an interview with the powers that be out at the Combine in Indy. Last year at this time, sir, you guys were very,
Starting point is 00:06:57 uneasy, clearly, about your running back's room. You did go out and draft Kyle Munnangai. Are you guys happy with DeAndre Swift, or is he another guy that could be a cap casualty? Is it possible in that regard? Or do you look at DeAndre Swift as your future running back? Do you add years to his contract? How you feel about DeAndre Swift now after clearly not thinking he was going to be the lead running back going into last year?
Starting point is 00:07:24 I know we're going to do a combine pregame show on our show. But I want to throw this nugget at you to think about for the pregame show. Nugatize me. We're going to find out how serious the bears are about that Ashton Genti talk in retrospect with their actions at the combine toward D'Andre Swift. Am I crazy? No. Yes. But I might be right about this.
Starting point is 00:07:46 They were excited for him. I'm excited for Trayvion Henderson. They did not appear excited about DeAndre Swift. He's been there the whole time. The whole time. the whole time. It's 5 on it at 104.3, the score. That's Lailorahaheimie.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Marshall Harris, Mark Grody, all three in the house today. It's all brought to you by Almost Free Teeth.com because confidence should never cost a fortune. Here's question number three. Will the Bulls win in February? Not next win in February, but simply win in February. That's how bleak this has gotten.
Starting point is 00:08:26 However, did that change me watching the Bulls game last night? No, it did not. I still watched the whole thing against the Knicks where they lost 1.05 to 99. Show off. But here's the issue. They have now lost one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine times in a row. Are you aware that your son has been absent? Nine times.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And the calendar month of February has not seen a win. They play the Hornets next. Is that the chance? There's a chance. Are you telling me there's a chance? That's their beatable team. I'm going to say yes. That they'll win?
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah. Okay, so you think that they will win in February? I do. I do. Now, I'm, Marshall's face said everything, but I will let Marshall speak for himself. His face is not the only part of him that speaks. They better not win in February. And here's why.
Starting point is 00:09:22 The Bulls have 24 wins this season. As you mentioned, they have lost nine in a row. nine times. The Hornets are fighting for a play-in spot. The team that's three games behind them, four said play-in spot, is the Bulls. If you want to avoid the middle, you lose to teams that are currently above you in the standings.
Starting point is 00:09:42 That's what you do. As far as their other game in the month of February, do you guys know who they play? Yes. They play the Portland Trailblazers. Are you familiar with the Trailblazers 2026 first round pick and how it is top 14 protected. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Do you know what you do to make sure that they have access to said pick and it belongs to the bulls at the end of the season? You'll lose that game on purpose. That's what you do. That's how this game works. If you've never been aboard a tank before, let me tell you something. I've been firsthand for tanks. And so far, this tank is looking real good.
Starting point is 00:10:21 You don't want to have a blemish on your tank effort. by losing to an up-and-coming Hornets team or a team that has your interest in mind in terms of if they make the playoffs, you get their first round pick. Portland's 28 and 30. That's dangerously close to being acceptable. Brody, the words of your favorite hip-hop song,
Starting point is 00:10:45 Big Tank, Take, Little Tank. Oh, yes. Thank you for that. Thank you. I appreciate that. The Bulls are in danger of beating Charlotte's. tomorrow. Why?
Starting point is 00:10:56 Wait, why are they in danger being charged? Cut the promo. Just because like Charlotte is mediocre, like the Bulls and they're at, they're going to be at home for that. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:11:06 I'll answer the question. They're in danger. Like, there is, the condition, it's like a tornado warning. The conditions are favorable for a Bulls win. No,
Starting point is 00:11:17 that's just a watch. Oh, is that just a watch? A warning means a funnel cloud has been spotted. That's right. This is an important time of year to make the designation. This is, a win warning. Can I point something out?
Starting point is 00:11:26 No, this is a win watch. I'm going to let you finish, Grady. I just want to point something out that I don't know that you're aware of. Yeah. In Charlotte's last 16 games. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:37 They have four losses. Those losses are to the calves, the rockets, and the pistons. Cavs, rockets, pistons. So they're surging right now.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Yes. And the pole are not anywhere near the caliber of the calves, the pistons, or the rockets. Let me tell you something right now. If they can get through that game, guess what? I'm looking at March already. And if we're talking about tankathon.com here, they start with Milwaukee, then they have Oklahoma City at home, and then they go to Phoenix at Sacramento, at Golden State,
Starting point is 00:12:18 at the Lakers, at the Clippers. Through this month, folks, we could be looking at about a 15-game losing streak. Sacramento's lost 16 games in a row. So that's where they'll get there with. Should we go to the Oklahoma City game just for tradition? Because we went to the opener last year, Tuesday, March the 3rd. Oh, we did, didn't we? That's a game I could go to.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Should we? Maybe we should. Ray, put in the request for the tickets. The tickets are as low as $43. Oh, yeah. Oh, I think we're going. If it's free, it's me, though. So, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Last I check, we're both partners. We'll take a sweet. Also, SGA, I mean, come on. Like, there's some good basketball to be watched. He may not be back. He may not be back by the. They're talking about SGA's not going to win the MVP because he might miss too many games
Starting point is 00:13:06 because, you know, we've got rules now about how many games you can miss. Also, also, also, now that the Bulls want to take, David Silver's like, oh, there's too much tanking. Now, now you're not okay with it. Like, you really think the Bulls could have pulled it off anyways, Lola.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I'm sorry, Adam Silver. That is not, yeah. So Adam Silver is like, I'm sorry, David Stern is still near and dear to my heart as NBA commissioner talk. And the old habits sometimes die hard when you're talking about hockey and football. The brain just has too much information. I don't know. CP3 would have a ring if he didn't exist.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Basketball reasons? Yes. That's the point. So is it basketball reasons now that the Bulls want to try to finally take? You're like, that's it. Once the Bulls take, we got to shut it down. It's a tank spiresy. Like, why won't you let the Bulls try to take, huh?
Starting point is 00:13:53 Huh? Why do you shut it down now? You know who is on this? Our friend Joella Renzi. He made the same observation. The Bulls, they're late to the tank this year. There may never be another year to tank like this because the rules are going to change in the off season. It's a bad look for the Bulls front office.
Starting point is 00:14:11 So, Groats, we're under a loss or a win watch. Okay, let me make sure I got right. Conditions favorable for a tank. If we spot a tank. No, conditions favorable for a win. win, mean like... For a win, for a win, okay. So Charlotte, you're saying conditions are favorably.
Starting point is 00:14:27 How would you describe what a warning would be? Because in weather parlance, it's, and tornado has been spotted, right? So for the Bulls especially, I think this gets tricky. They've got to be up by, I'm going to say, 17 points with two minutes and 30 seconds to play in the game. That's a warning? Then it's a win warning. Will you text me? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:47 If there is a warning, please? A win warning. Because you never know. I'm probably, I'm just going to go to Texas Roadhouse. every night. So I don't know what's going to be happening. You guys need to warn, give me the warnings and the watches on the Bulls. Will you dedicate one of those roles to me when you eat it? The Thunder game is next week, isn't it? Because there's only 28 days in this month. Huh. I think we should go. We'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:15:12 He's like, Layla, don't try to plan my calendar. That's what's going on over here. He's like, I got a high school basketball game I got to do. I got to do ABC 7. Marshall has non-tank games to call. the whole next week is the girls' state championships. What did I tell you? Super sexual game in Lions Township on Monday, the state championship, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Why isn't it your priority, Leila and I? It is. I wish it would be.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Where am I right now? Where am I every day? Actually. He is here often. But then I'm going to take off those days? Yeah. Actually, weren't we the ones trying to convince you to take off last Monday, President's Day? You did try to take me.
Starting point is 00:15:50 We abandoned him, like punch his mom. Yeah. Yeah, we did. We did. I mean, I have like a stuff. Well, I got stuffed bears. I could use his replacement. There's a grody bear.
Starting point is 00:15:59 There's a grody bear. You give him an Emma bear. Lela designation for a day. Chris Amba will be at the combine this week. Hopefully we'll get to talk to him on this very show. Do you think he's going to do your famous mic move and go, bear? Five on is getting away from this guy. I've had some great moments.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I'm going to miss being there this year. I'm sorry. We were out of schedules. Then we decided to goof off. All right. Oh, I've had my moments. Number four. That's going to have to be the lightning round and final question.
Starting point is 00:16:23 was the weirdest aspect of the Cubs giant spring training game yesterday? Well, I guess it can't be quitting Barry. So it's the fire drill. What happened yesterday? There was a fire drill, but we don't want you guys to go anywhere, but it's still happening. That was wheels off. Umpire said they were in contact with stadium personnel. That's how they knew it wasn't anything imminent, even though people were leaving in droves.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Because that's what you do when they say, please evacuate. It is amazing when alarms go off in life. now. Nobody takes them seriously. It's happened in this building where an alarm goes off. During this show. Do we care? Do we go? Is there actually smoke? When Ray tells me it's time to go, that's right. It's like when a car alarm goes off
Starting point is 00:17:05 like you just think somebody's stupid. Who messed up their car? You don't think about somebody's car actually being robbed. It's like that's just an alarms have become annoyances and folks, folks that's dangerous. That's my last question. Go ahead. Play it. Play it.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Drive on it. All right. We're going to ask the Question then now that you've watched the Winter Olympics, if you could, what Olympic sport would you participate in? Oh man, if I could figure skate, that would be the coolest. Did you guys see Alyssa Leu's first pitch that she threw out when she did a double axle with shoes in the air? And it was one of the most amazing things I've seen and it was a first pitch. What's better than that? I can do a single axle. I cannot do a double in the air. I cannot do a single axle. Probably can't do a half axle, but it's the monobobobob. I like rides. That seems like a fun ride. Me and a monobo.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Bob. Just let me be, get me in one of those ski suits and let me just be a badass downhill skier. Why? Because it's badassery. And guess who can't ski well? That'd be me. And it pisses me off that I can't ski. They almost had to amputate Lindsey Vaughn's leg. Yeah, I know, but I wouldn't do it with the injury that she had had. I probably would not have taken that chance. I don't have that history, Marshall. Start on a little green in Wisconsin and just feel your own speed. Was it bad that I tried to ski in Colorado the first time? Utah the second time. Should I start it on the bunny hills at Villa Olivia in Illinois? Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah. No, I started in Colorado. You'd be fine. Really? Yeah. I might be going to Utah in a couple months. Do they still, did they, their ski season open all year? No, late March is probably the end of the ski season.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Okay. We're going to just do hiking then. How about we talk to a real Olympian? Jack O'Callaghan, a member of the Miracle on Ice team. He is at Miracle OC on X, and he will join us to talk about that amazing gold medal hockey team next. Rahimi Harrison Grody. Midday's tidal two on Chicago Sports Radio
Starting point is 00:19:01 143, the score. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 1043, The Score, and we are waiting to talk to Jack O'Callaghan. He was a defenseman on the Miracle on Ice Team. And at that point that we had just booked him, only a couple hours outside of being on the last Olympic gold medal hockey team. But here we are, 46 years later, we finally get another one.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And we talked all about it in our first hour here on Rahimi, Harrison Grotie. And the thing about Jack, and what that team did that was so ridiculous is that you got to understand. America's only won gold once before. That was back in 1960. And the Russians had won four out of the five previous Olympic gold medals in men's hockey. So it was the fact that. amateurs only, but in Russia, they basically made their amateurs, you know, workers in the state or the national government so they could just, you know, play hockey.
Starting point is 00:20:13 They were pros. They were pros. They were pros. It was been against boys. David versus Goliath. Congratulations. This is your job. It was a very different feel, and that's why it's called Miracle on Ice.
Starting point is 00:20:25 That's why it's ridiculous. This time felt different to me because it was like more of a, we're here. We've arrived as a nation where we can roll with the big boys and not only be in metal contention, but to win the gold medal and to beat Canada, not anybody else, but beat Canada to do it, it's like a little extra, a little extra, umph on it.
Starting point is 00:20:49 A little mustard. A little extra mustard on the pole sausage. Like those little spicy mustard packs you get with Chinese food. You ever try those? That's a little too hot for me. Those are really hot. They're fun and I like that. I have acid reflux.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Oh, yeah, that's not good for you. One of my vulnerabilities. My favorite McDonald's sauce was the hot mustard. Oh, yeah. I started on sweet and sour because you know that's had, you start them young. But hot mustard became the one. Clears the nasal passages. Definitely clears the nasal bashed.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Oh, I was going to say, it's got to have a little horseradish in it or something because it does. I think it does. That's right? Because there's something. There's some active, there's some very active ingredients in those little Chinese mustard packets. Speaking of a horsy sauce, I put some horsey sauce on my potato cakes. last time I went to Arby's. A little extra.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Okay. Arbys? I haven't had a good beef and cheddar in a long time. Sorry, I didn't mean to make you. That was a staple of my college life. This is the danger of the lunchtime show. Yeah, we start thinking about beef and cheddar. You start getting hungry.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I don't know what I'm eating here, but it's good. In the neighborhood, that's a different slogan. They've got the meats from what I understand. That's what I've been told. They've got the meats. You know, you guys know proteins made a comeback. Oh, yeah. I hear it has.
Starting point is 00:22:02 A little dasher protein. In everything. Anything and everything. Technically there is a little in most things, so that works out. We're in the protein era. Except for maybe like iceberg lettuce or something. Maybe nice. You could get a little protein on there, though?
Starting point is 00:22:16 It's a lot of water. Fair enough. Put a little peanut butter on it, maybe. Well, that would change it, yes. Delish. We are now going to our hotline here on 1043, the score. And joining us, part of the Miracle on Ice team, the last Olympic gold men's hockey team until yesterday.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Jack O'Callaghan. Jack, thanks for coming on. Sure, a pleasure. Yeah, really still kind of feeling the affection of yesterday. Very excited, very exciting for USA hockey and America and for those, that great team of young American hockey players. And Jack, it's video that you're familiar with, of course. We don't just play the video of the Lake Placid team every four years at the Olympic Games anytime Team USA hockey would take the ice.
Starting point is 00:23:00 But it is a fond memory. that we have as a sports society. So when you're watching the game and probably reliving that video every single time, did you think that there was a good chance that Team USA was going to actually make some memories of their own yesterday? Well, I had high hopes for them going into the game,
Starting point is 00:23:19 but you know it was gonna be a challenging, tough game with Canada. And after the US women's team had defeated the Canadian woman. So the Canadians had a little extra motivation. not to go back-to-back losses on top of that. They're a great hockey team. But I just was open for a good competitive game. And it turned out to be a great, great game.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You know, it was 20 minutes hard fought, good goal-tending. And then going in overtime like that was just a special way for them to win, especially with Jack Hughes. I mean, typical hockey player, right? He gets his teeth knocked out and five minutes left in the game, you know, goes in, whatever, rinses his mouth out, out and scores the overtime goal of half his teeth missing. I mean, it was just spectacular.
Starting point is 00:24:07 It's the stuff of legend. And what can I tell you, man? I was euphoric for those kids. And I know a lot of them. I know pretty good friends with most of the guys that are coaching and managing. And yeah, it was just a tremendous day. I was so excited and so happy for them. And I'm still failing it today.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So it's just very exciting. Jack, I'm sure it was euphoric to see your name. say score that game-winning goal and overtime, what I'm curious about is how much of a callback did you have to your moment like Placid when you see that golden goal
Starting point is 00:24:45 happen? What were your immediate thoughts and reactions? I'm sure you had been sitting on pens and needles waiting to see what happened in overtime, right? No, you're wrong. It's totally overstating it. I mean, it was 406 years ago
Starting point is 00:25:01 that we had our moments, and it was It's been great. It was great. But that was ours. You know, it was unique. None of that was really sort of in my heart or in my mind, you know, watching the game. I was, this is their time. It was their moment.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And I was just enjoying seeing them being in the Olympics playing as well as they did. I mean, it was a hard fought. You know, every team they played getting to this point was very challenging. And, you know, watching the game, going to the old. overtime and the canadian is really coming on strong and um yeah it was to me it was just like i was watching a hockey game with a bunch of guys that i know look we we've seen the 84 olympics the 88 you know 92 96 i mean the world cup i mean we've seen it all you know 2002 olympics and the 2010 in vancouver so it's been a lot of olympics since 1980 and uh watched all of it and uh yesterday
Starting point is 00:25:58 it was just another one of those days that i i was just having fun you know i like i said I know a lot of those kids. I watch them in the NHL. You know, I always feel connected to the USA hockey team. And yesterday was just really fun. It was fun for us to be able to, I mean, speaking from my team, my 80 team, it was just fun for us to be able to watch these, you know, young great players go out there and the way they came together in two weeks over there
Starting point is 00:26:24 and became a real team. And then fighting through all the adversity they had yesterday, Canada was coming hard at them. Hellebuck played. obviously phenomenally. You've got to have good goal tending in a tournament like that. And I just very happy, you know, just happy that it worked out the way it did and
Starting point is 00:26:40 thrilled for everybody and they're just going to have you know, I can only wish for them what's happened to us. You know, we've had 46 years of great conversations and wonderful experiences and I hope they have the same thing because you know, my 80 team, we've been really blessed with that. We're very fortunate
Starting point is 00:26:56 and I'm just really excited to these guys. Yeah, I love your attitude about it because not two vastly different situations, obviously, with what happened. I mean, it was. It was the greatest David versus Goliath, amateur players. These are pro players. So I love that you can different, discern.
Starting point is 00:27:16 This is not what we did. They're not really comparable, are they? No, there's no comparison whatsoever. I mean, we were, you know, if Japan had gone through the Olympics and beaten the U.S. and beating Canada and won the gold medal, maybe then you could say, well, that might be a miracle. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:27:35 But, you know, for us, you know, coming, growing up in the 60s and 70s and as we closed in on 1980, you know, what was going on in the country and the world and everything else, I mean, it was just a whole different time, right? I mean, Americans weren't in the NHL.
Starting point is 00:27:50 They weren't really well respected, sort of in the genre of, like, world hockey. And we really, you know, we broke through that glass ceiling. What we did in 1980, you know, created opportunities, not just for some of the guys on our team, but for the guys going forward, you know, Chris Cellios, is Eddie Olick, you know, Keith Kachuk, and, you know, go forward for that, right? Mike Madonna, and then you move into the Patrick Kaineworld, and then these guys, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:16 Jack Eichol and then Kachuk kids and the used kids and on and on, right? So for us, it's like, you know, we were the descendants of 1980, I mean, 1960, right? those guys won a gold medal in Squaw Valley. And, you know, we knew all those guys. And we looked to them always, you know, we were sort of standing on the shoulders of the guys that came before us. And, you know, to see these guys really embracing our story, you know, they've grown up watching the movie Miracle and hearing all about us for all these years.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And it's been a big motivator for all these USA hockey kids to, you know, to come out and play with the passion and emotion that we had in 1980. and they certainly did that. That's probably the one real similarity is the way they came together as a team and the way they played with passion and emotion and their pride and their USA on the front of their jerseys and playing for everybody that had done so much for them in their lives. I mean, see these kids talk after the game
Starting point is 00:29:16 and the emotion that was coming out and how they handled themselves and how they handled the victory and how proud of they were of, you know, what I took to get there, not just. They understood. They understood. They really did. Yeah, it wasn't just them, you know.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And so they really, they really expressed that. And it was, it was really fun to watch for me. And, you know, what can I tell you? I'm just so thrilled. Jack O'Callaghan is joining us here in Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 104-3, the score. Part of the Miracle on Ice team, former Chicago Black Hawk and New Jersey Devil as well. And you mentioned there's still that teammate aspect that you guys have. You know, we saw Mike Ruziani on TV last night as part of the coverage or yesterday morning, depending on when you watched it.
Starting point is 00:30:01 What was the group chat like or the discussion like between some of your teammates after Team USA took gold again? Again, just so happy, you know, it was just it was happiness. It really was. It was shared happiness. I mean, especially, you know, Davy Christian's nephew was on the team, you know, Brock Nelson and, and, you know, now you got Billy Christian and Roger Christian and 60. you got Dave's 1980 and you've got Barack Nelson here in 2006 I mean the Christian family so excited for them and for us it was nothing more than just
Starting point is 00:30:36 we were just so extra happy and and you know proud of them and and all that you know it wasn't anything deeper than that you know it's just that's being really happy for them and just you know relishing in their story but again this is their story story. We have ours. You know, the 60 guys have theirs. There's three U.S. men's gold medals now. So it's really spectacular. Now, we also have some hot gossip here because I know we took you away from a golf tournament. So we appreciate you doing that for us. Actually, I just finished. So we're
Starting point is 00:31:12 good. Okay. Good to know you got your golf in. That, uh, they're also close with Patrick Manley. How did this friendship come to me? Yeah. So Patrick's a good friend. He's, uh, again, you know, Golf world's pretty interesting, right? I mean, when I moved to Chicago from Boston, I never played golf back in the mid-80s, early 80s, and everybody plays golf in Chicago. So I had to learn how to play, and then you get the bug,
Starting point is 00:31:35 and Patrick and I became members of different times with down a Beverly Country Club, and he's just a wonderful guy. You know, Chicago sports is awesome, right? I mean, in my life there, I don't live there anymore. I moved out of there about six years ago. I live in Florida now, but, you know, I've always had in the 35 years I was there, I got to know so many different players from different teams, you know, whether it's Bears or Cubs and White Sucks guys.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And, you know, it's a terrific sports community in Chicago. So it's an easy for Patrick and I to become pals and play golf together and get to know him and his story and everything. It's just been really great. So, yeah, I love that. He's a great guy. And even Kevin Butler is another friend of mine. You know, he's down in Georgia and in Atlanta. I live in Northeast Florida and Pondon. of you to Beach and he came around a fair bit. So yeah, there's a real strong Chicago connection in the athletes world. And I'm sure you guys know that. Well, we appreciate the time. And thank you so much for joining us to be able to celebrate some gold.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Thank you so much, Jeff. Yeah, very exciting for both the men and the woman, by the way. Yeah. I'm really proud of what the woman did as well. And to see Hillary Knight, who has her roots in Chicago and the North Shore. And I've known her since she was a little girl playing, you know, my son was around the same age, is around the same age as Hillary. and to watch her journey, you know, and then see how it ended for her with scoring a big goal to tie the game and, you know, carrying the flag and the closing ceremonies and everything.
Starting point is 00:33:02 It was just, I'm so so happy for her and for her team as well. We all, my team, my 80 team, we all feel that way about them just as well. Well, thank you, Jack, and thanks for joining us here on Rahimi Harris and Grotie. Thanks, Jack. Thanks, thanks, everybody. See you, yeah. Yep, see you, Jack. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Thanks again to Jack O'Callaghan. He is at Miracle OC on X. He is a defenseman on that miracle team who is now no longer the last USA men's hockey team to take gold. Coming up next on Rahimi Harrison Grotie, the Combined, I guess it kind of starts tonight, but really the business starts tomorrow. So we'll do a Combine pregame show next. Amy Harrison Grody. Can you imagine Lovey Smith doing the whole good, better, best thing?
Starting point is 00:33:47 And saying bleep the Packers. Come on, guys, good better best. Oh, man. let rest. I'll see you on Tuesday. Middays 10 to 2 on 104 3, the score. This is Rahimi Hiruss and Grotie on 1043 The Score. Thanks again to Jack O'Callaghan
Starting point is 00:34:08 for joining us in our last segment to talk about Olympic men's hockey team gold medal. And yes, congratulations to the women to their first gold since 2018. That was in South Korea. So two goals for the Olympic men's and women's hockey team. Megan Keller and Jack Hughes. Come on down. or the two that scored the game winning goals. I like it.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I like the, but the problem is we're like, like, come on down to what? We have no game show for that. I was hoping you wouldn't question me on that. Oh, darn. Sorry. I let it ride, Grady. I just want to point out.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I let it right. I don't know where, come on down. Okay, so. That's sad. That's a quote from Austin Powell. Oh, okay. I thought you meant you personally do not have an internal monologue. I know, there are people who do not.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And I'm like, I can't, I don't know how it function without my internal monologue. As a, as a happily. single woman. Sometimes these are the only words I speak all day, are the ones to my coworkers and on the show. And that's it. You just shut it down the rest of the day. You hit the mute button, the Leila mute button. I'm just working on stuff in silence. I don't know. Like, I'll go home and work out and stuff and then, you know, live my life. Do you talk to yourself? You wouldn't know. I sometimes read what I've written out loud to see if it makes sense. I think when I found out people didn't have an intermodelog, I was like, what do you mean? Isn't that what thinking is? But I guess,
Starting point is 00:35:26 it's not for some people, and I had more questions. Is that good or bad? Like, it's very, that'd be a very peaceful, like, if you don't have stuff running through your brain all the time? No, no, no. That just means you say it all out loud. Oh, wow. Which can be good or bad.
Starting point is 00:35:40 That's probably bad. I'm going to be honest. I share that with you every day from 10 to 2. That's enough, right? Okay. That's fair. I also have internal monologue about the NFL Combine, because I said this earlier, and we asked the question, what are your biggest questions for? the Bears when it comes to what their plans are. And I'm going to offer this. Not that I mean to be
Starting point is 00:36:03 residing in Lawrence Holmes's Worrytown, but when you don't have as much draft capital and frankly, salary cap capital as the Bears have had in the past few years, you remember how it's like the road to the NFL offseason goes through the Bears. They got the first overall pick. They got all this cat money. They can do whatever they want. And then it was exciting. The world was your oyster. They don't have that this year. According to over thecap.com, they're about $5 million over the cap. They also have the 25th pick in the draft. So that's when business becomes crucial.
Starting point is 00:36:38 So this is a new challenge for this front office. What are you going to decide is the most important thing? Because now 25 gets even more crucial as to how you try to fix your team. That's still in a lot of ways is not where you want it to be. No offense to Mark Grotie and Dan Weeder and all the people. But I believe taking the North is much easier. than keeping the North because the way the NFL is designed
Starting point is 00:37:00 it's supposed to be, you know, every week, one-score games, schedule changes every year, and now they're going to have a first-place schedule, and building a roster good enough with the blank canvas you just described was very, not easy, but it's easier, in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:37:15 to do that than to not only establish greatness, but to maintain it. And so, much like you, Leila, my internal monologue goes wild thinking about, okay, well, if you got this much money in your defensive line, how are you going to now improve your defensive line? If all these people are not on the books as safeties,
Starting point is 00:37:37 what are you going to do about your safety position? Left tackle, we talked about that earlier and five on it. I just have a lot of questions that I don't know that we'll get the answers to this week, but we will at least get some insights into how the bears are viewing specific problems after they have taken their requisite time off and reset, as it were. I do love that they're, as you indicated, Laila, they ain't run in this combine, the Bears, which is actually nice, because it means that they, yeah, slow clap necessary here,
Starting point is 00:38:10 that they are coming from a position of strength. They are drafting number 25 overall right now because they won 11 games. Can I get an hallelujah? And they won a playoff game against the Green Bay, Packers this year. So we're going into a combine for the first time in ever that we're not talking about how you're going to make the offense better. Are you going to get a quarterback? Are you going to trade Justin Fields? Are you going to draft Caleb Williams? Are you going to get a tight end? Who are you going to get? You're going to get a wide receiver? Whoa, for the first time,
Starting point is 00:38:42 are you going to get a running back? Better not be a wide receiver. For the first time we're like, we're like, defense? What? We're not going to the combine. I may not even have a show this year. My pop-up show on the clock is in jeopardy, which I used to do on Friday nights because the bears are not running the combine, and I'm not going to the combine. So I might be losing a show because of this, and I'm happy about that. I'm pretty sure you gained a show, though.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I did. This is working with you guys. It's called Rahimi Harrison Road. I would take that. Absolutely. I don't need it. I don't want it anymore because I don't want the draft to be as important as it was all those other years. You know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Of course, it's still really important. But here's the issue. Now that 25th overall pick had better hit because everybody else is more expensive. Yeah. You know, as we mentioned, the Bears, they spent money in very good places when it came to extending Joe Tunney, extending Jonah Jackson, being able to sign Drew Dalman, for example. Like, they spent good money there. But unfortunately, they also spent a lot of very confident money on the D line, as we mentioned.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And that makes this different. You know, I think it was at the beginning of the season. I want to say it was week two against the lions. And spending has changed drastically since then. People got extended. Some stars got extended. It's not the same. But the Bears were 10th overall in defensive spending at the time in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Now, did they get a top 10 defense out of this? They did not. Okay. So therefore, that can't happen on a team where you're already 5 million projected over the cap and you've got to do some creative accounting and you really need these drafts to hit because you can't afford to sign big name free agents like you did previously. Those are excellent points. I mean, do you guys know when the last time the Bears picked this late in the first round?
Starting point is 00:40:38 2017? No. No. No. If you go back to 2017, which is an admirable guest, they had the, what, second pick with a... What? No, this can't be right. I'm saying 2017 Mitch Trubisky. Oh, yeah. My bad. No, it is because they drafted up.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Yeah, they moved up. It was Trubisky. Also, this is the time in my head where I think of Ray Diaz, that promo we had with previous big voice guy where he was like, or will he trade up? Oh, man. Will they do anything at all? Oh, man. And it was like the bells, you know, the NFL films bells.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Will he trade up? Will he trade up? I always think that. I was 2018. That's why I said 17. So here's the thing. It was 19 then, right? It was 2011 the last time the Bears picked this low.
Starting point is 00:41:26 They took with the 29th pick. Bring it to me. They took a tackle with the 29th pick. King Johnson? No, he was a second round. Do you remember a kid from Wisconsin named Gabe? Carimi? I guess I do.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Oh, really? Gabe Carini was a left tackle who did not work out for the B.S. out of Wisconsin. I was very excited about him. I was very excited about Mark Columbo. I was very excited about Chris Williams. All bust his left tackles. I don't know that Colombo was a bus, though, was he?
Starting point is 00:41:59 He had some serviceable years for a few different teams. Oh, no, no, with the Cowboys especially. Absolutely. But not what he was a bus for the Bears. Grody, my point is Gabe Carimi was the pick. He played, you know, one year or two years, excuse me, with the Bears, started a total of 16 games over those two years. It didn't work out.
Starting point is 00:42:18 No, they, they, their history. of drafting offensive linemen it was bad. If the bears want to stay where they are at the top of the north, this 25, it's got to work out better than that. Well, and are you going to be position redundant to do you have to draft another defensive lineman? Do we
Starting point is 00:42:33 know what we're getting in Shemar Turner? I can't. I can't be a left tackle. I'm going with that. Or will he trade up? Do you remember when we put it on an echo effect and it just haunted our souls? Will he trade up? Well, well. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:42:49 The bells kept rigging. They just wouldn't stop. Do you trust Ryan Poles? And if you do trust him, how much do you trust him? I think those are the questions we're getting answered this offseason. Well, and the jury is still out on the two guys that we have mentioned on their defense. And Di-O-Dangbo and Shamar Turner, like the bears put resources and money into. That's the projection.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Do they think they're going to really get something out of DiO-Dang-Bo and Shamar Turner? If they do, then that could change the calculus at number 25. I do not. Will they trade up? And then there were the bells, and then it just kept ringing. The bells kept going. And then the will he trade up? And I was traumatized.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And I thought about this, too. In my internal monologue, I was also going over internal film. And I was like, ah, Shamar Turner. Like, I really like that pick. But then I'm like, all of the film I've seen of him, he's making tackles in space. I'm like, that's not really a pass rush thing. Grot, you know what I'm talking about. The film on Shabar Turner was like excellent tackles in space.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Like wrap it up, shut him down. But I'm like, well, that's not really like getting after the quarterback per se. Right, which I think he did in his last year at college. They started to move him around the line. And that's what the Bears thought that he could do with him to minimal success this year. So don't know. The bells are ringing. The NFL draft bells are ringing.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Let's discuss more on this. And really just more football talk with an excellent guest coming up next. Emery Hunt, owner of football game plan. He's CBS Sports HK. analyst who's in attendance for the HBCU Legacy Bowl this weekend. Emery joins us next on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on The Score.

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