Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - 5 On It & Joel Lorenzi talks Bulls' mindset ahead of trade deadline (Hour 3)

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

In the third hour, Leila Rahimi, Marshall Harris and Mark Grote discussed a variety of sports topics in the 5 On It segment. After that, Joel Lorenzi of The Athletic joined the show to discuss the Bulls' mindset as the trade deadline looms Thursday. Later, Rahimi, Harris and Grote reacted to the Giants hiring former Bears head coach Matt Nagy as their new offensive coordinator.

It's time for five on it. Rahini Harrison Rooney. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104-3, the score. I got five on it. Number one. According to ESPN, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, like his former head coach, Bill Belichick,

was not selected for entry into this year's pro football Hall of Fame class. Are Hall of Fame voters holding a grudge against the Patriots? I guess they are, aren't they? Because how else do you explain all of this? based on football success, that would indicate that Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft are first ballot Hall of Famers and given the team's success and the dynasty that they created.

And this really does feel like a situation where perhaps, you know, they remembered. And the voters remembered. And if they didn't see that there was justice served by the NFL, they feel like they are serving the justice at the Hall of Fame level. The problem is the justice wasn't served at the NFL level. And because of that, they are doing this, I think, improperly. You have to go based on record. It's not necessarily based on merit. If we had a character judgment of the Hall of Fame, we might be here a while.

I understand the concept. But your beef is really with the league. And the fact that the governing body did not want to govern. And when that is an issue, you've got to take it up with the right authorities. But this certainly feels like some sort of blacklisting is involved. Yeah, see, I completely disagree with that. I think it is a flawed voting process. This is completely on the Pro Football Hall of Fame

and what they ended up settling on as the way people get put into the Hall of Fame. Understand this. This is a new voting experience in 2025 that actually pitted Kraft against Belichick against the other people because now you have five finalists amongst the contributors, coaches,

and senior players who last appeared in a game in 2000 or earlier. So Kraft was the contributor finalist, singular. Belichick was the coach singular. And then the others were the former players, Roger Craig, Ken Anderson, and Elsie Greenwood. So now, when you understand the process, 50 voters, you only get three votes. And then between one of the three need to get 80 percent or 40 of those votes. And there's a possibility that none of the candidates get 40 votes. And if that happens, simply the top vote getter gets elected.

It is a flawed process. I think we're reading way too much into it and we say, oh, people got a grudge against the Patriot. No, it's just an impossible process. Because some of those guys that we talked about, whether it's Roger Craig, Ken Anderson, or Elsie Greenwood, if they don't make it, they don't get another shot at this. So that starts dividing the vote up,

and that's where you end up with the mess and the sham that this process is at its current state. Hard to argue against Roger Craig. It is, especially, and you made a great point, Marshall. There were voters, and some have been, about it who said they did what they had to do because it's last call. We all know Bill Belichick is going to get in. That voter knew it. Other voters who had that conundrum knew that. But I will say, I do think in some cases, and we're not, we don't know. We just don't know what every single

voter was thinking or how they were rationalizing it. But I think both things can be true, maybe to a lesser degree. There probably are some people who are holding a grudge. And I don't even of grudge is right because, and I haggle over this, some people say it's part of the morals clause in there that you don't cheat. To me, I look at it a little bit higher as in, it's illegal to cheat.

Like, that's not a moral issue. That's illegal in a game where millions and billions are being made, where you have gamblers, you have players, everybody that has a stake in this, to call it a moral issue, the cheating? I don't think it is. In other words, if there are

voters who said, okay, as a one-off, I'm going to get all moral here and high and mighty and all of that. I understand that. I wouldn't have done that, but I would understand where they were coming from because cheating is illegal. Roger Craig. Really good. 81 and 89 yards for the career.

For the career. And there's not that. For some people, they're thinking of the old San Francisco manager, Roger Craig. Remember that guy? Roger Craig, who looked like the emperor from Star Wars. Palpatine?

Yeah, look them up. He looked like that. Emperor Palpatine? Kind of. Look up Roger Craig, San Francisco manager. It is Palpatine. Palps.

This is interesting. Yeah, so yeah, Roger Craig, who just... Okay, you're right. I mean, he always looked 80 to me. Oh, this isn't incorrect. Right? Because it's like he was your grandpa coaching. That's what he was doing.

He doesn't look happy about it either. I mean, he did with the Padres, but that's San Diego weather. We'll do that to you. Kind of in that Jim Leland mold. Probably smoked cigarettes in the dugout. I always thought Jim Leeland was cool. Oh, yeah, he was.

Number two. Good manager. So what's right to cry? I think they're moving us on to number two. Sorry. And we're going to get into some Bulls business here for question number two, but I have a programming note for everyone. Oh. As things are moving on a live radio show,

Joelle Lorenzi of the Athletic is going to join us in the next segment at 1225 to talk about the Bulls and the trade deadline. Our guy Paul Papps, the scores very own of the tailgate heard on Saturdays. He's out of the show at Saturdays. at the Super Bowl with the Dan Patrick show, and a lot of things are happening out there. He's going to join us at 125 and tell us everything that happened at Media Day. Everything he's been doing out there at the Super Bowl in Santa Clara now.

He's got that fire in passion. That's right, my friends. So Paul Papst at 125, my friends. Now here is question number two. Which player would surprise you the most to still be on the Bulls roster past Thursday's NBA trade deadline? I'm sorry, I'm laughing at this text. Rahimi Harris-Grody is like speaks, described the food spread yesterday.

Disgusting, appalling and arousing. That was amazing when he said that. Disgusting, appalling, arousing. Sure. Or is it disgusting, appalling arousing? No, I want to be disgusting. I want to be appalling. Brody's arousing.

For the record, they appointed me arousing. So you just can't have to deal with that. Yep. Okay. I think that the player who had surprised me must to still be on the Bulls past Thursday's NBA trade to line stupidly. This is, I'm mad at myself because I can't believe I'm saying this because I know it's probably not going to happen.

Is Vooch? But I know it's probably not going to happen. Like, you know why I feel this way, Marshall. I can tell you, no, deep in your heart. In your heart. Why do you feel that way? In your life. Because they should move him, but they can't.

They've been, should have moved him. How many times? Many times. Many trade deadlines and off seasons. And really last year, especially. You could have argued that he was an all-star last year at the time of the season. The man told you he's tired of playing in the play-in. He's also said that.

And like, think about the discussion surrounding Vooch, kind of similar to what the discussion was about Demar de Rosen. Like, Vooch, he doesn't want to be here. All right. So your answer is Vooch. He's not supposed to be here. I could see them being stubborn enough to not take the second round pick or whatever for Vooch that they should take immediately. Just take the picks. Just take all the picks.

Keep stop paling the picks. I'm going to say Kobe White. Like there's no reason for Kobe White to be on this roster past the trade deadline. There's just not. You're not resigning him. You're not going to pay him all that money. Unfortunately, I think the reason why I'll be less surprised is because he has had issues with his calf. Yeah.

And that is something that's not going to get you a first round pick. It might not even get you two seconds. And that's, I think, what the price is right now that you can buy him for. His name does. seem to be right at this moment the most prominent of the prominent names to be gone. I heard Casey Johnson utter his name. He didn't report anything, but just in conversation mentioned he wouldn't be shocked over that. Teams are interested.

And they should be. I mean, you got offense, you should probably be pretty interested in the guy. If nobody is going to say this, I am just going to say it because I'm sure texters are saying, maybe on the Twitch line, maybe online. Nobody is going to say that I wouldn't be surprised if everyone is still. here. How can we knowing what we know, knowing what we have expected at the past

two trade deadlines, the surprise and the disgust that we have had. Appalling. Appalling. Disgusting. Arousing. And we have been aroused in the last two years. It's only to be disappointed. Very anti-climactic. I can't stop

being aroused. Wow. You know, this reminds you of it seriously is the Deber Cox song. Like, how did you dead here. Nobody's supposed to be here. Of course, the name had to be Deborah Cox. Hey!

What? Oh, I wasn't even like that. Oh, I wasn't going there. Yes, you were. The best part of this little, this portion of the show, the best part about it is, over the weekend, Grady, weren't you saying to us that you took like an HR course? I did. You did take an HR course.

So funny, man. I did. And one of the examples, video examples, that they did. And one of the examples, video examples that they get. Dave was a boomer joke. Hey, something, something about old guy, you boomer. And on Friday, Layla, and Layla would not have stood for this, by the way. I stood for it.

I was getting, I've made boomers. I got all boomered, probably just because I mentioned Jim McMahon or something. And then I get boomered up, you know? And I'm Gen X, damn it. And that's the way it is. The boom boom boom room with Mark Grody. Hey, we all have things that we are passionate and inflexible on. Exactly.

Exactly. And unfortunately, those much younger than all of us have decided that you can be a boomer just with a take that is before the year 2000. Yeah, that makes sense. Nobody's supposed to be here. You do pulling an Anthony Heron over there? I've tried that trade thing for the last time. Their heart's said, no, no. It's so true. It applies to the bulls, doesn't it?

Just use your flashlight on your camera, phone. So everybody's coming back. In conclusion, don't say that. Everybody's coming back to the Bulls. Next. Everybody's supposed to be here. Party on.

Number three. It's a historic day on the score once again. Tune in tonight for the score's first Bulls broadcast on the FM dial. It's Bulls versus Bucs from Milwaukee in Crystal. Clear quality on FM. Pre-game coverage begins at 645, tip off at 7 on the score. Delo of Terry. And the Fitzgerald Equipment Bulls Radio.

network powered by Heli Forklifts. Yuki Kawamara. See, a little deeper. I'm doing a little deeper, Chuck. I don't know why, but I am. On the score and the Fitzgerald equipment Bulls Radio Network, powered by Heli Forklifts. Okay. Question number three. Question number three.

We have like four minutes to get through these. L.A. Clippers Guard, James Hardin, wants to be traded despite the team being the hottest team in the NBA, having won 17 of their last 21 games. Your thoughts, Layla, Marshall. I was in Houston

when James Hardin was traded from the thunder to the rockets. And Darrell Mori at that time was James Hardin's dude because Mori, aka the godfather of the process, aka trust the process, then they all went to the Sixers. Mori believed in James Hardin

more than anybody else did at the time, and I thought those two would be inseparable. But then no. Just like other teams, James Hardin requested that he didn't want to be on the Sixers anymore. just like he did with Brooklyn. So I'm beginning to think that this is a James Hardin thing. I don't know what the hell is going on as to why he doesn't want to be with the Clippers.

Never mind that whole Chris Paul thing that happened with them earlier in the season. What's happening with them? Nobody cares as much because they're not the Lakers. And I hate to be so cliche about it, but it's just the truth. So James Hardin likes to get traded, doesn't he? Is that just simply what this is at this point? He's never supposed to be anywhere. James Harden's 36 years old.

He's been traded four times. Three of those trades came by way of a James Harden trade request. Now it looks like he's working on number four. And it looks like they're moving in the direction that he is going to get traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers. Why does everybody just follow his instructions? They're like, okay, James. James has never won a championship. James is probably not going to win a championship as the first, second, or third best player on a team.

James Harden is selfish. James Harden cares about money more than he cares about winning. All of these things have led us to this moment, which should be unsurprising, and at the same time, reinforcing, don't trade for James Hardin. I'm talking to you, Cleveland Cavaliers. Don't do it.

I mean, if you liked somebody just standing there watching the other dudes play when he's supposed to be playing defense. Do you understand the back court of James Hardin and Donovan Mitchell is not a thing that sounds like it's going to be very much a puzzle fitting together? It's not a good idea.

I simply, and I've said this before, I cannot wait for James Hardin's skills to fully diminish because you said selfish. I'll add petulant. I'll add unnecessarily dramatic. I will also say oversized ego, but that's pretty easy. And I get it. Like there's been other athletes by this,

but he hits a boiling point for me that every year or every two years, we have to go through this with James Hardin. and I am sick of it. He has to ask what is part in it is. What hardened it is? Yeah, no, what part he has in this. Oh, yes! Thank you.

Yeah, he hasn't done that. Exactly. You could also ask what hardened it is because remember he gained all that weight and then we went back down. There are too hard. They have been too hardness. I admire his ability to do that. He's a shape shifter.

He is. We call him fluctuate. In the fluctuating weight business, we call it fluctuators. I thought that's the thing that takes you back to the future. Oh, yeah. The flux capacitor. I want to be a fluctuate. It's all in the same family.

Nice, right? Poor Marshall. Marshall's like, get back. We need somebody to tell us to be linear. Tarek school. Tricz-Cubel's arbitration hearing is tomorrow. The back-to-back AL-Sai Young Award winner is asking for a record $32 million, which would surpass Wansota's arbitration record of $31 million.

The Tigers are asking for $19 million, which would be less than the $19.75 million. David Price got in 2015. What should have? happen and what do you predict will happen. Scoobel's going to get that money. He's back-to-back Sal Young Young winner. School's going to get that money. He is. This is not 2015.

The price of business has gone up. Severely. Yesterday's price is not today's price. And that is the bottom line here. That's it. He's the back-to-back A.L. Sight Young winner and they know because these stupid trade rumors are out about him. They know that they

can't afford him. They've told everybody as much already. Yeah. he's going to get traded, first of all. But before he gets traded, he's stupid, by the way. He's going to get the $32 million, and he's going to get a lot more than that in free agency. And good luck. Good luck Detroit, trading him and getting his value, because that dude is somebody the Cubs should trade for. And, yeah, he's going to get the money.

Period. And, oh, yeah, that would be like the Zach Allen stuff. That was fun with Bruce, who, by the way, offered that to us. Unsolicited. When I asked him, who's going to. be the best pitcher on the staff by the time Justin Steele gets back. He said Zach Gallen, who's not in the Cubs

roster yet, but Scoobes would change all of that. Number five. School, we're going to get that money. All right, question number five, lightning round. What did Paris do to deserve the Browns? What did the city of Paris do to get the Cleveland Browns?

Like the Saints make sense and the NFL's like, here, Europe, whether or not you want this. And I really question whether or not the city of Paris does, just knowing how things operate there. You get the Browns. You know why this is lovely? Enter Todd Munkin.

Exactly. In non-French fashion. He's in like baggy ass jeans and like, he's making jokes and his clipboards and his pants. My guy. You know why they get him? Because you can't pretend like you're speaking French without saying, Chodor.

Doesn't that sound like a French word? Chador. Chador. Chador. Chador of the family standards. Maybe it's about time France came down a peg or two. You know what I'm saying? That's your takeaway, really?

Maybe it's about time. We give you the Browns. Deal with that. That's a reality check right there. It is. France, you need to be taking down a peg. Whereas France shall now have the Browns. You don't want them to understand NFL offense.

It's their official team. You know what? Miles Garrett's good. They can like Miles. Yeah. Absolutely. Miles can be their guy. Miles and them. Yeah, Miles and that is Mully and them.

That's our morning show. Molly and them boys. Molly and them boys. Five 30 a.m. to 10 every day right here on 104.3 to score. But like, the inherent French sense of humorous sarcasm, the Browns are not going to help with this. Lebron. Oh, yeah. Lebron James.

I just heard Lebron James in that. Lebron. Yeah, it's French. It's true. I'm sorry. We're going to get back on the rails and discuss a little bit more about that impeding NBA trade deadline that is coming at us whether or not we wanted to.

Joelle Lorenzi, the new Bulls writer for the Athletic. We'll join us next. Rahimi Harrison Grody, Midday's Tyndall 2. On Chicago Sports Radio, 1043, the score. Wiggins with an up and under a banker from poor note. in the air loose ball. Bezellis runs out of the pack. Left four court, double down on the ball. And they go up top to boot to Kobe. Kobe works on a double team on a reverse. Got it. Count it. Fowl. And he got hit hard, Bill. He's being assisted up by Corolla Bizzellis.

That's Chuck Swirsky and Bill Weddington on the call. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 104. And we're getting a lot of text. And I think people are doing their own scientific experiments. They're seeing which signal comes in better for them. For some, it's 670. For some, it's 104.3. And that's cool. That's why we're here. Tell us what you think.

312, 644, 67, 67. In the meantime, we are waiting to see what is happening with the Bulls up until the NBA trade deadline on the 5th. So for that, we bring in our guest, Joelle Lorenzi. He is Joel X Lorenzi on X. He is the Chicago-based staff writer for the athletic covering the NBA. You see a lot of his work surrounding the Bulls. joins us on the Circa Resort and Casino hotline, Circle Las Vegas.com.

Hi, Joelle. Thanks for joining us. So, guys. Good to be here. We were, speaking of being here. Funny that you mentioned it, because we all started singing Deborah Cox, nobody's supposed to be here talking about the trade deadline in our last segment. So I'll ask you. You know, the first question we asked on our 500

segment just now was, who's the player that would surprise you most? That would still be here after the deadline passes. Cool. It's a funny question because I wouldn't be surprised if nobody. Hey, hey, hey, hey, okay, let me answer. I still think of the candidates that we all presume Kobe White is probably most likely.

On one hand, I know he's a guy that likes Chicago, likes Billy Donovan. On the other hand, he's a guy who wants to be paid. Who the bulls, we know them to sort of sit on assets probably longer than they should. And now they kind of want to see what they can give him. And fit wise, you know, like if Giddy is going to be a sort of centerpiece or cornerstone or whatever they want to cook up, we've seen, granted, he's had nagging calf issues this year, which is a variable in his value. You know, like this season, you know, they've almost kind of looked better when they stagger him and Giddy. it is like it's it's a confusing thing and um the player he is is kind of one where you know if they're in a back court together defensively it's an issue and they're they're almost like an

unremarkable back court at that point relative to the rest of the east and the rest of the league um so covey is a guy who i think is most likely to be going that being said the days of probably getting a real first for him are gone you're probably looking at if i had to imagine like a couple good to medium seconds disguised as a first like that that sort of thing and then maybe like a you know like matching salary obviously like i know minnesota's the team has been linked most to them and i think hopeful fans who are like hopeful for something close to a rebuild want like yohan barrens at a young shot blocker minnesota just grabbed last year and i don't think they'll get there i don't think minnesota's with that so you're kind of you're kind of seeing the value because we play out

But then again, like these things change so fast. Like I think everybody is such a standstill with Janice and now James Hardin's in a mix. Like these are the kind of names that are going to plug up the drain or the deadline. And until people are comfortable with moving past them or those moves are actually made, so much of the value is going to be hard to gauge on a guy like Kobe White and some of the other domino effect moves before the deadline. I mean, this thing could get done on the very last day and his value could change with every day. good thing that we are not holding our breath

as Joel Lorenzi joins us from the athletic covering the NBA including the Chicago Bulls okay correct me if I'm wrong but does it look like to you that Vouch is tired of being here number one is his lack of defense at all the last time out

tells me that he cannot wait to be traded and that Kobe is pressing because he's in the middle of a contract year and he's probably also looking at this as an audition type experience those are the two things that I've noticed over the last probably two weeks if I'm keeping it a buck. Sure.

Well, let's address Voucher. I actually talked to him this morning at shoot-around. Okay, good. Perfect. He's a guy that you can tell wants to win. I mean, that's been apparent since he kind of spazzed on Jalen Smith after, what was that, a one-point win over the Wizards back in, like, November before that losing strict to some lottery teams.

Vouch was not necessarily happy to end with the expectations of his team and sort of, you know, like it's, besides him, it's a very youthful team, and they're kind of stuck in the plan, like he mentioned in Joe Cali the other night in Miami, which we talked about today, right? He's just a guy that wants to win that wants to make a playoff push. This team is not prepared to do that. And that's apparent to even him, I think he's even willing to admit that now. And so I think he's also at a point, though, because I think a lot of people would blame him

Like he's, he's the man in the middle. One of their glaring issues has been rim protection. He's aware of that. He's aware of his weaknesses and he's a guy who is vocal about being prepared to take a back seat to be in a bench roll with, you know, if that's his next team, you know, having his minutes dwindle being used for his strengths and spot minutes. Like if that's, you know, I mean, the demand is like hardly there compared to maybe two years ago or whatever. But if it was like just throwing a team out there, this is a hypothetical. don't aggregate this, y'all. If this is Golden State, you know, and let's say Draymond's still there, like, maybe you

put him next to a guy like that for five to ten minutes. I mean, not like he would play more than five minutes, but you get what I'm saying. And a lineup like that where somebody can hide his weaknesses because he's very aware of these weaknesses. That being said, he's also a guy who feels like he still has juice. His strengths are still his strengths. I mean, he's going to stretch the floor. He can rebound.

He's not, maybe he's not going to compete with a. a guy like clinging on the old boards, but like he's still a sufficient rebounder still can stretch the floor. His strengths are still his strengths. But he's kind of, he's very acknowledging of the kind of stage he's in in his career.

And he just wants to make this last part of his career meaning something. Aggregation has gotten all of us at some point in time, Joel, for better or for worse. I understand. They got me yesterday. Oh, yeah.

No. It's a machine. You can't escape the machine, Joel. They just leave out details as all, with pisses, What is nuance? You're right. You're 100% right.

Good on you for having the disclaimer. The Bulls are at Milwaukee tonight, so can't help but thinking about a gentleman by the name of Janice, Attenducco. And the fact that, other than staying with Milwaukee, according to a couple of websites, gambling sites, the Bulls are somehow the favorite to get Janus if it's not Milwaukee. What do you think when you hear that? What do you think about Janus? Yeah, I think of an expletive that happens to have the franchise name in it. I love that. I just think it's incredible.

One word. You can have me on a hour-long session another day about the rabbit hole of betting and sports in the row is play. This whole thing started with some site called Kalshi, which all these betting sites have some like skin in the game in terms of influencing these odds. and what it does for their site. I think a lot of what contributed to it that first day was like two days ago when the Yannis stuff first started picking up odds was he was in Chicago at a church, I believe in Chicago. He's also, he owns property in Chicago, which is like, whatever. These are these are very sick-old reasons to be connecting him to the Bulls.

Sick-off. I love it. The fact of the matter is the Bulls actually like have a okay package to throw it at the Bucs, Will they? I don't think so. What's that package look like? Yeah. I think ESPN had a good idea where it's like probably giddy, probably, I don't know, like maybe no or something. I know another young player.

Or maybe just giddy and Kobe and all these picks. They own so much of their picks, including Portland's pick this year, which is a lottery protected. So they have a decent package. Would it crippled them for the future? Absolutely. Like there's so many layers to this. One of them being, I still think, I think this franchise is leaning more into the youthful framework of their team more than they were a couple years ago when they were like, you know, like, this team is bound for the playing, but they were really bound for the plan a couple years ago when they, like, passed on trading, drumming at the deadline. I don't think they're in that mode anymore.

I also don't think they're going full rebuild. So these are things to consider when you're looking at a guy like Janus and the window he gives you and then what happens after the fact. I mean, what do you even left with when Yannis is done with your town? I mean, Milwaukee's probably about to go through another 40-year drop before they even can consider getting a guy like that in town. And while Chicago is a big market, they move more like a team like Milwaukee than they do like the Lakers. You're getting it.

My final stance is that I don't think they're in play for Yonis, even if they do have like a decent package. And for what it's worth, like I don't think the. magnitude of like dealing for a guy like Janus that doesn't happen and we have we have two days until Thursday like while these talks have been had for days

that takes so much more than a week to me to come up with the kind of package I would be comfortable with if I'm Milwaukee and parting with your franchise guy who again you're going to go decades probably without a guy of that magnitude that type of thing does not happen in in days

I believe when you talk to people around the league, they seem to think that this is a thing that you're canvassing right now and it happens more likely in the summer. But then again, Golden State seems thirsty. You only get so much time with Steph. They seem like the team, if I had to guess, is most inclined to do this before the deadline. But it doesn't seem likely.

Joel Lorenzi, we appreciate you taking the time. Enjoy your work covering the Bulls and the rest of the NBA at the Athletic. If you want to check it out, Joel X Lorenzi on X, and he's also on the athletic covering the NBA. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. Appreciate the expletive talk. I know.

We got to check back in with him after the trade deadline, too, because I have a feeling he's got his hands on a lot of the understanding of what the value is going to be. And for people who don't know, his last job was at the Oklahomaan covering a team that knows how to do this, San Presti's Oklahoma City Thunder. Look at their picks and what they have. locked up ready to go whenever they do need something and they don't need anything right now.

Well, that's why I'm surprised he actually thinks the Bulls can offer a package that would make sense for Milwaukee. To hear that from somebody is new. The dream is that they make enough deals between now and Thursday that they can make a run at Janus in the off season. But I just don't see it happen based on what he's saying and based on nothing. No first round picks are coming out of anywhere. Brody, we're going to get two pictures on the floor. one is going to be a yes and a no and we're going to ask Dave, just like we will

for the Super Bowl, if he thinks that Yanis will be traded. This is a lot of pressure on Dave. He's used to a very easy lifestyle. He's just going to sit on a piece of paper. Maybe Dave's just been talking to Luke Canaleson. You know what he said yesterday. Oh, that's true. Lou said zero percent chance. And lose

a guy who wants to give the benefit of the doubt to everybody and everything he does and he could not do it. Well, we've got to get Joel back on because that was really good stuff. So we will definitely do so. And in the time. Word on the street is somebody we know got a job. Crazy. And the landing spot too.

Crazier. We'll do that next. Rahimi Harris and Grotie. Middays 10 to 2 on 1043, the score. This is Rahimi Harrison Brody on 670 the score. Have you gotten to the point in the movie yet where don't go chasing waterfalls is part? Give up on him. Give up on him. Are you ever going to watch the other guys?

Here's what I'm going to have to do. No! I'm going to have to start it over. Yeah, but I will do that. I have no more excuses. Put your phone away and just watch the movie like we used to do back in the day. The off season is over. I've got a few extra days off that I got to get to over the next few weeks.

So I'm giving myself. I'm talking myself into Mark. Look at me, Mark. Mark. No more excuses. Don't go chasing. and Waterfalls, just stick to the playing game that you're used to. That's what the

Bulls. That's what we learned. Joel just told us that basically. Okay, so we just had Joel on who is a writer for the athletic. Joel Orenzzy, he covers the Bulls, and then we found out this during the break. Shamsbaum. The Memphis Grizzlies are trading

star forward Jaron Jackson Jr. John Conchard, Jock Landil, and Vince Williams Jr. to the Utah Jazz for Walter Clayton Jr., Kyle Anderson, Taylor Hendricks, George Nying, and three future first round picks. Breaking news on the score is brought to you by the Take the North podcast, by the way. Yeah, the Take the North podcast is bringing you that.

These are so nice. So, yeah, now if only you would, you know, hold up your end of the deal and watch the other guys. I will. You know, I even feel more terrible after you guys said nice things about Take the North. What's the likelihood of John Morant not getting dealt before the trade deadline now because of this? Well, he's hurt. Memphis is like everyone must go. Has that stopped anybody, though? Physicals are a thing.

I don't know. I just feel like they're dismantling this whole thing. Yes, I agree, A1-5. The curious part is the feeling that watching the other guys is a chore and not a treat. So that's the latest transaction as we monitor the action leading up to that trade deadline in the NBA on the 5th. You know the show Billions? Is that what's called? Billions?

No. I've never watched it, but yes. No, what's the show about the inheritance? Succession? Succession. See, everybody knows that's great. I did the same thing with Succession. I watched the first.

And it's great. I enjoyed it, but I haven't revisited it in like two years. So give me two years, and I'll be back on the other guys. That is not encouraging. I don't know that this is Succession necessarily, but it is a bit of a surprise. So is this more shocking than the other news we got on our way to work this morning? Which one was that? We're FM?

No. Bears? the former Bears head coach getting a new job. Oh, is the trade more shocking? I say no, because Memphis was already in the process, right? I thought they were just getting rid of a job. I didn't realize they were like, we're tearing it all down. That's what this means.

They're tearing it all down. Okay, so we get, I was joking about how there's been an awkward breakup when it came to the chiefs and Matt Nagy, and then they just like sent the graphic. Like, thanks, Matt Nagy. And I'm like, is this just how we're doing relationships now? Like, thanks, person I met on Hinge. Do they even say thanks? Isn't that more of a ghost situation?

Exactly. I feel like this was that. And then we get the breaking news graphic, and it's a picture of Matt Neggie. And this was this morning, Adam Schaefter. ESPN sources. Giants are hiring former Chiefs' offensive coordinator Matt Neggie as their offensive coordinator. So he goes from Andy Reed to John Harbaugh to be the OC.

We'll be calling plays too. with a young quarterback and, frankly, a run game that he also might have to respect. I mean, yeah. This looks like the best situation he could have been in outside of maybe Baltimore, although this head coach knows what he's doing. So to go work for Harbaugh, the Giants, call some plays. If you have a good year, you're a head coach next year because you know how this works. This will be the second time that Matt Nagy will take over in prime.

progress, a second year quarterback in Jackson Dart, did that with Mitch Trubisky as well, the advice that I would give. And you guys know I like Matt Nagy. I've made that very clear. Don't be inflexible. That's the thing. Don't be inflexible. As you indicated, you have to run the football.

We can't be asking you, where's Jordan Howard? Jordan Howard isn't walking through that door. Don't worry, Matt Nagy. You're okay. Jordan Howard can't hurt you. Exactly. I am not going to sit here and see this man ignore Cam Scataboo or Tyrone. Exactly.

Exactly. And finally, listen to your quarterback and communicate well with your quarterback because there was a communication breakdown. Tell him to slide and not get hit and concussed. That too. Yeah. Well, I feel like it comes back to the article that was done by Dan Pompeii that we've referenced quite a bit was that was him on a redemption tour of sorts. And his name was out there first before all the head coaching chaos came to be where he said he would delegate more if he were a head coach. and that a lot of this would come into play. But it really is about the inflexibility.

You're going to have to make adjustments in game. And you're going to have to make adjustments in season. And I don't want to hear about how it takes forever in a day to learn your playbook. Not for these guys. Three years, he said. And you know, four. Four. Yes, absolutely it was four.

Three plus one. And the whole point is, you know what helps with that? Lean into your running game. If you've really changed, if this makes it. in particular has really changed, the Giants are going to run the football successfully. That's how I would know he changed. Should help that he has a running quarterback.

You get to count those yards as well. Trubiskew could run too. He could, yeah. Like, he was a very good runner, actually. That's the benefit of having a young quarterback. They're going to be able to do that kind of stuff early in their careers that maybe you can't when you're older. And not even, you know, we've even seen,

I think Patrick Mahomes kind of have to change how he carries his body and what he's able to do it game and what he's not, or what he would choose to do. So that's it for me. It's like, fantastic. You know, you get to work with John Harbaugh. You get to be that guy with a young quarterback in Jackson Dart. But at the same time, we're going to need you to run the football for this thing to work. Otherwise, what's the difference? Who do you guys think would get a head coaching job sooner in life? Matt Nagy or Declan Doyle? Declan Doyle. Declan Doyle is on quite the upswing here. He's on a, like the trajectory is amazing.

He's 29 years old. We love our young head coaches. Like they get smart points just for being young. We used to not. This is, you know, a trend that's been relatively new in the last 15 years. But don't we just assume they're brainy if they're young? I don't assume that. But guess who does?

Those owners. I'm going off what the owners have been doing when I say that. I want one of those guys. Yes. And also, I'm just not really excited to have Matt Nagy coach anything. I don't know. Like I said, like Matt Nagy, there were some stumbles, as we read in the athletic, but Matt Nagy, like, swaggy, naggy, he was good in front of people, good in front of a team, great, optimistic. He's got all the things that you need to be a coach. That's why I'm very

curious to see if you can pull it off this time around. I'm just a big believer of, okay, you said you changed. There's no better way for you to show us than what plays you call. Like, it's a real easy path to show us that that's the case. You're right. Yeah, his work will be right there every single week, every single day. Does this change the way we view his exit from the Chiefs and the BNME hiring at all? Because he did land on his feet with a play-calling opportunity as opposed to last season he didn't have that? It was still awkward, but it ends well. Yeah, it's an all's well that ends well type of deal, at least in this case.

The Chief said they wanted somebody more direct. They wanted somebody who would make adjustments in game. The better question is, is John Harbaugh, a guy who can manage this in a way where maybe he, He gets that. But Andy Reid's a standard. So that's where the tough situation comes in. If Andy Reid called him after the year, like he did be on him and said, come on home.

Come on home. I watch the call play. Because it was my prediction. I said this multiple times through the years on the score. My prediction was always that Matt Nagy would be the successor to Andy Reid. I believe that that has taken a hit. If we are to believe that Andy Reid was kind of like, get on out, you got to go. You got to leave the house again.

We took you in at 30 again. Now we need to get you out of the house again. It's no one's fault other than everybody's. That's right. That's right, Madaggy. Don't make a fool of my guy. But it also has to be yours at times. And it sure felt like this was a breakup that everybody was trying to be really nice about, but very much a breakup. Yes, which is why I mentioned my take.

And I don't think he's going to be the successor to Andy Reid anymore. But they can still be friends after the relationship. Which is really what matters, Marshall, right? That's what matters. The more you know by Marshall Harris. the friends you make along the way. What about the enemies? What about the enemies?

They play a part too. They do. Sometimes the enemy of the enemy is your friend. Like old tarantula over here. Sometimes you've got to take your alliances. Does somebody print up the stuff for me for Dave for the Super Bowl? By the way, did you guys hear that? I need a Seattle placard and a New England piece of paper with their emblem on it.

Did somebody print up? Yeah, we'll get to the typing pool and go talk to them. If you want me to do this. I want a post from Grody underscore underscore sports. Oh, yeah. It's coming. Oh, no, I'll reveal it on the show. How about that?

Both are good. Okay, I'll do both. Yeah, different audiences. I'm going to use the secret color printer for this. Whoa, color for Dave. This is a cat guy. What I was hoping for? Color for Dave's Super Bowl pick.

I do believe I've earned it. Color printing. Coming up next year on Rahima Harrison Grotie on 1043, the score. Roger Godell attempted to say a lot of stuff on opening night in his annual press conference that he gives before the Super Bowl, except not only did he not say enough, he sure as hell didn't help the Bears. We'll talk about it next. To be favor, don't go chasing waterfalls.