Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - 5 On It & reviewing the Bears' stressful moments from Sunday (Hour 3)

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

In the third hour, Leila Rahimi and Mark Grote discussed a variety of sports topics in the 5 On It segment. After that, Rahimi and Grote examined the stressful moments for the Bears in their 59-37 win... against the Panthers on Sunday.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The score. It's time for five on it. Rahimi and Grody. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104-3, the score. I got five on it. Number one. You're listening to a Plummer's 911 football Monday
Starting point is 00:00:18 presented by Bucie Bank in great clips. And hey, it's a victory Monday. So here's question number one. What did you learn about the Bears from their 59-37 win over the Panthers and their season opener? I learned that Ben Johnson wasn't playing when he said he wanted to break all.
Starting point is 00:00:34 offensive records. I learned that Ben Johnson wasn't playing when he said he wants to embarrass teams and really make the point and run up scores. 552 total yards, 291 rush, six touchdowns. I learned that this was the most points in an opener for the Chicago Bears since the year 1948 when the Bears scored 45 against Green Bay at Wrigley Field. I learned that this was the third time in the Super Bowl era that the Bears have scored. 50 points in a game. I also learned that this was the highest 96 combined points in an opener was a record. The old record was an 88 of 88 in 2018 between Tampa Bay in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I just learned all sorts of stuff about the Chicago Bears in a historic 59 to 37 win over Carolina. I learned that the Bears' commitment to the run game is real and it is incredible. That's what I saw yesterday. I saw a Bears team that not only committed to it, but DeAndre Swift was a huge, huge asset in blocking for Caleb Williams because the Panthers also decided to just run straight up the middle and shoot the gaps sometimes on the wide zone run schemes. And DeAndre Swift was left being the last line of defense sometimes to Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:01:52 And that was incredible to see his blocking as well as just what he was able to do on the field. Kyle Munungai running away with it for the 61 yards. That was the absolute dagger. just to see the blocking that the bears did on the side of that, the commitment that everybody had to the run game and just making sure their guys next to them got yards. Just excellent blocking out of receivers, excellent secondary blocking out of your tight ends and out of your running backs,
Starting point is 00:02:16 and then to be able to ground and pound and still run 70 plays and still score 59 points. I can't say enough about how this is an outlier, but it's also Ben Johnson saying, hey, yeah, we wanted to run a better offense. we wanted to be the best offense in the league as you talked about Mark Grody. But additionally, they invested in this.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Were you upset when you got what you wanted? That's what we saw yesterday. Both unfortunately on the defensive side and then on the offensive side, this was the plan and it was executed. Are you okay with this being the way of the world in this year in the NFL? It might have to be.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I also learned within the show today. I'm sorry, I'm going overtime on this question. I also learned that Jalen Johnson needs to guess better. And at least per Anthony Heron, whose insights I trust, it wasn't a physical thing. It's not a Jalen Johnson lost the step thing. It's that in his opinion and his what, reviewing of the tape, that Jalen Johnson was not guessing well,
Starting point is 00:03:17 and that Tyreeks Stevenson needs to stop falling for the stop and go, for the double move on those particular plays. So get better. Oh, yeah, there was a little bit of fall down, go boom there that happened. Yeah. We're all learning. That's a sick twist. I like that. Yeah, here's question number two. What was your biggest takeaway from week one in the NFC North? Layla was watching some NFC North yesterday, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I don't know about you guys, but if you decided to turn over to old Channel 2 and then check out the Packers and Vikings game that featured, by the way, nice call done, nicely done by JJ Watt. and then also, of course, the rest of the broadcast team that is so incredible, Jim Nance, that was lovely to see. It was a Green Bay game that saw the Packers leading, and then the whole thing just fell absolutely apart. The Vikings scored 29 straight points. Kyler Murray goes down. It was ugly video. But then you see the Vikings with Carson Wentz, dare I say, Wensis a soda, after he used to play in Wensylvania when he was with the Phillies. Those all the things they say.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I came up with Wins to Soda. I don't know how they feel about it. They're probably insulted about. I don't think the Vikings fans care because they came back and won and beat the Packers. So another fourth quarter failure by the Matt LaFleur Packers. They scored 22 points in the fourth quarter, as I said, 29 unanswered, and come away with a 39 to 22 win. So let me get this straight, Matt LaFleur. You get extended after your fourth quarter breakdown.
Starting point is 00:04:58 against the Bears and back-to-back games against them. Then you roll up against another division rival, a team you should have beaten, frankly. And this happens? Tough scene. Cram up your cramhole on the floor. Tough scene. How are those fake play-by-play dudes doing after that game?
Starting point is 00:05:16 Did we check on them again? Don't wake those guys up. They're already awake. They've been doing this. And then they get mad when we talk about them. Well, you've been talking about us for a long time. Wake up. And then they search our mention.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Why are you doing that? Are you not satisfied with your lives up there? Stalker. I'm not searching your mentions. I just get to watch the game and see the scoreboard. I kind of learned that Detroit might be like the Bears, man, because they're hurting a little bit injury-wise all of a sudden defensively. They do win.
Starting point is 00:05:48 They beat New Orleans 31 to 30. But I was talking about this yesterday, man. That could be, for myriad reasons, Bears, Bears, Lions this year, because the Bears were 0 and 2 against the Lions last season and because the Detroit Lions straight up embarrassed Ben Johnson and the Bears last year with their own 50 Burger. I can't wait to see Bears and Lions this year and the exhibition that that might be.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And then as per your Minnesota Green Bay game. I loved that game. I know you did. One of my friends called me and I was doing play-by-play the game because I was like, you need to watch this game. Carson Wendz coming to Soldier Field. Could J.J. McCarthy step up? on the field in that game and repeat his second half from last year in the opener at Soldier
Starting point is 00:06:32 Field. My brain did go there for a second. But it's like with Minnesota, they're just so unpredictable. I picked them for fourth in the division this season. But there they are. Winning this game against the Packers, 39 to 22, and just be in Minnesota. Like they are year after year, such a difficult team to predict. So I got my eye on you, Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:06:56 and I did like seeing Green Bay lose. There was a graphic that went up, and I don't know what Chicago Bears fan was working on the CBS broadcast. But it was last three games with double digit second half leads. 2025, we 16 at Chicago, led by 10. Result,
Starting point is 00:07:12 L by 6. 2025, wild card at Chicago, led by 18. Result L by 4. Today, led by 12, and then question marks? L again. Five on it.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Number three. Love a good Green Bay, L. And this is a victory Monday. This is five on it. 104 three, the score. Laila Rahimi, Mark Grody. Sauer is brought to you by Plummers 911. Plumbing Emergency.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Call the plumbing professionals available 24-7 at 1-833 Plum 9-1. Here's question number three. We're going to expand the NFL map out. What was your biggest takeaway from week one around the rest of the NFL? Um, I... Are the New York Giants better than people thought they were going to be?
Starting point is 00:08:00 I mean, Jackson Dart looked really good for the Giants last night, 23 of 29, 230 yards, 3 TDs, and 0 picks. And how about the guy they kept showing in the booth, calling the game for the New York Giants? His name is Matt Nagy. Now, they do have a hardball on the sideline, so he's going to get most of the shine and the credit, but they were giving lots of credit to Matt Nagy.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Good to see you healthy Malik neighbors as well. One other quick takeaway from the NFL too, man. Oh, boy. Does Josh Allen have some folks to play with in that receiver room? Kincaid with five catches for 130 yards and an old friend of everybody's. What? DJ Moore. Oh, he had a nice day.
Starting point is 00:08:47 How about DJ Moore? Five catches, 100 yards. and a touchdown in his debut as a Buffalo Bill. Shout out to our old friend DJ Moore. I hope the Bears don't end up missing him. It wouldn't appear from the first game that the Bears missed DJ Moore, but I'm happy for DJ Moore. I'll always root for DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I also was impressed with DJ Moore's output in the game yesterday, and that was a heck of a game. Yeah, those are two playoff contenders in the AOC in Houston and in Buffalo. and I was reading some of the discourse from Houston about the game saying it's a meltdown. But at the end of the day, you're playing the Bills, who I think are going to the Super Bowl. Same. I got him winning the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And what did we see? We saw Josh Allen be Josh Allen. And then we saw DJ Moore, I think, get the appropriate targets and production that I think he wanted to see in his career. So that was one of those. Oh, everybody's who I thought they were in this. Good call. The part about the giants beating the Cowboys. I got into it with somebody on Twitch because I don't think that even for what the Cowboys were predicted to be this season,
Starting point is 00:10:01 I still don't see them winning the NFC East. And if that wasn't a good example of them not proving that they might not win the NFC East, there's a lot of football to be played, but I don't think the Cowboys are as complete of a team as we think. Eagles and Commanders was low-key interesting. that ended up being a two-point game. And then I think it was, it was for me overwhelmingly, just the hate watch of the late game being the Packers and the Vikings was Chef's Kiss. Such great joy you got from that.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I am enjoying the joy that you derive. Yet another stat. Point differential last season, last five games, regular and postseason for the Packers, first through third quarters, plus five. Fourth quarter and overtime, minus 53. Ew, okay. Five on it Number four
Starting point is 00:10:52 And then I'll get some You should be better I'll this is classless I don't care What are you talking about? Who's gonna say that? No people search our posts about them And then talk about them
Starting point is 00:11:01 Like they work for the Packers Or they own the team or something We're supposed to get hate From the Packers people Don't worry about that It's just funny to me Like oh this random Packers person We give them hate
Starting point is 00:11:12 Hey we hate on them every day What are you talking about? Exactly exactly No I just I laugh at the whole spectrum of it all. I find it entertaining. There's no B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B. This is the Packers. Screw you, Packers. All things go, man. It can get as ugly as you want. Yeah, and yes. I'm going to enjoy my lovely day in Chicago and have some Rinali's chicken. And then I'm going to take a two-hour walk on the lakefront before I watch baseball. Yeah. Speaking of baseball. Uh-huh. Here's question number four. What stood out to you about the Cubs and White Sox this weekend?
Starting point is 00:11:41 I'll tell you what. The Cubs Saturday win over the Pirates stood out to me because because Jacob Webb got himself into the game and was good. Comes in with the bases loaded, gets him out. He ended up sticking around for an inning in a third, and he was fine. And I got to say that's quietly because it's just been so bad for him. So I was really encouraging for me to see that. Jacob Webb had a good game.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Yeah, he did. And Ryan Zephyrjohn got the save. Now, he only had to record one out because there was Rollison, who got the first two outs in the inning. We call that a Mike Montgomery, by the way. Somebody gets the first two outs, and then you're Montgomery, you come in and you win a World Series. I have dubbed it, the Mike Montgomery save.
Starting point is 00:12:29 That's what Zephyrion got for the Cubs. So that stood out to me. As for the Chicago White Sox, I don't know why I'm continuing to speak in this covert voice, but I'm enjoying myself right now. It's almost like your NPR about the baseball. Take a sip of your coffee. The White Sox on Saturday as well,
Starting point is 00:12:48 got something that they've been lacking lately, not just timely offense, but that magic thing that they had been having throughout the season. Randall Gritchick, just when you thought it was over, Sox, Randall Gritchick with an opposite field to run Homer to eventually win that game. So that was sick to see.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And how about old David Sandlin coming in? Yes. Perfecto for five and a third yesterday before the roof caved in on Chris Murphy and Sandlin loaded the bases in the car. beat the sock. So that's what stood out to me. By the way, so I was texting with one friend of our show, Herb Lawrence. FOS.
Starting point is 00:13:26 FOS. In front of the show. Yes. After I enjoyed a, I knew he would, more importantly, enjoy the end of the Minnesota game that saw them lose to Mississippi State. Shout out Marshall Harris, Hale State 38 to 13. Shut up, Mars Hall. And then they had the cutaway of PJ Fleck, and I said in all caps, row that boat. blank, and I can't say it on the air. And then Herb was worried about the socks.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And then he texts me back later in the evening and said, but I like to see that, though, and that indeed was the White Sox coming back, beating the Cardinals, 6 to 5, which they desperately meet it, because the lead is now down to a half game in the central. Are we panicking yet? A half a game. Of course they're panicking. Are you kidding?
Starting point is 00:14:08 And oh, by the way, you're playing the Cleveland's, Cleveland Guardians, the Clevelands, you're playing the Clevelands in Cleveland. Today, it's a three-game series. guard that, which now unfortunately is part of the program here. I told you I was looking forward and kind of stressed out about this series, and here we are. So, yeah, this is, that is going to be peak viewing for me. Meanwhile, the Cubs are facing the Braves. So this is just one of those early parts of the week where I'm going to be baseball stressed
Starting point is 00:14:38 for three days in a row on both sides of town. I would like to turn to my colleague Ray Diaz for an observation from the baseball weekend. we not only got to see in person, in the good seats, no less, at Wrigley on Friday. You too. We not only got to see a first win of the series, which helped the Cubs then take two of three from the Pirates, but also runs scored a plenty.
Starting point is 00:15:02 We saw 12 runs, right? I don't even know how to act. It was amazing. It was amazing, especially the contrast of the previous game we had gone to. It was the Cubs and the White Sox, and the Cubs had some trouble scoring runs. So it was delightful to be, you know, in the nice, you know, end of summer, transitioning to fall-type weather and see some runs scored by the Cubs, man.
Starting point is 00:15:25 It's a beautiful thing. And Shoda. Shoda was good. He allowed just one homer. He did. Six innings, two runs, five hits for Shoda in that game. Five on it. Number five on it.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Five on and one four through the score. Final question. A video posted on X by Titans reporter Jim Wyatt. a Jets fan proposing to his girlfriend on the Titan sideline before yesterday's game at Nissan Stadium in Nashville Tennessee. So the question is, should this be allowed? I sent this to our thread because what are we doing here? All of this is bad.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And I'm not necessarily anti-end game proposal. I've seen a lot of happy couples. I'm happy for them. But proposing to your girlfriend when you're a Jets fan, when it's not your home team, so you're in Tennessee. You're not even at the Meadowlands. Then you're doing this before the game, before the first NFL game of the season.
Starting point is 00:16:22 When your focus should be on the game as a fan, so now you're on somebody else's field doing this before the game, and then you're also doing this before the first game of the season. This is all bad. Everything is bad. I don't know that I would have said yes. What if he, though, just received this opportunity
Starting point is 00:16:42 he was gifted the opportunity because going on the sideline. It's disrespectful to the Titans, frankly. It's a big deal, though. What if this was the one time in his life that he was allowed on an NFL field and he thought, wow, this is a great moment. Honey, we're watching our team, but we get to go down on the field. Like, field passes, you don't just,
Starting point is 00:16:58 like not many people get to go down on the field before games. As a sideline reporter with the Bears for four years, I remember how excited and exuberant people were when they got to take those tours on the sideline. This might have been a once-in-a-lifetime thing, Leila. But that's why you just let that moment be that. moment. Why do you have to combine major moments? That's what people do though. Have you ever seen like the proposal at a wedding thing like where there's a wedding happening and then somebody else proposes? That's really disrespectful to the bride and grooms. I don't know, man. I think that's a thing. Why would I make somebody's wedding about myself by proposing? Well, because then everybody, then the family, if your friends and their family, then it's just one big, it's a proactive. It's a happy, happy day. No, don't propose at weddings. That's a bride and groom's day. I like double happiness. Don't propose on another team.
Starting point is 00:17:42 field. This is where we need. This is for me. The lingering questions become like, I need to know more about the girlfriend. Is the girlfriend some sort of massive football fan? Because if she's not, what are you doing, bro? You're not, if you're really a Jets fan and you've already declared that,
Starting point is 00:17:58 then you need to respect the Jets and propose at the Meadowlands. Okay? You chose that life. All right. Fine. Fair enough. Fair enough. Coming up next year. Before the game.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Like, just enjoy the game. Unbelievable. I'm sorry, this upset you so much. I hope that you feel better now. It's just bad for. I just said no. You're not better now. I would have said no.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Why don't we break down some of the, as good as it was yesterday, there were some stressful moments in the Bears' 59 to 37 win over the Panthers. We've kind of hit on some of them, but let's do a deeper dive on some of the stress that we might have been feeling during this barrier. game. It's Rahimi and Grotie on 104.3 this score. Rahimi and Grotie. Hey, pay attention. Midday, 10 a.m. to 2 on the score.
Starting point is 00:18:56 This is an interesting area of the field to go for it. Good, strong. And a defense was ready for it. And the Browns can do a lot for you. This time it was Bobby Brown who filled the gap. It was a good neutral word that Adam Amin
Starting point is 00:19:33 used their interesting. Interesting. Interesting place. Oh, no, that was Adam Amin voicing his disapproval. play-by-play for him. That was what that was. I caught that. Oh, yeah. It's interesting. And I think Drew Breez thought it was interesting, too,
Starting point is 00:19:48 when he said out loud some version of, I thought he was just doing the old trying to draw them off. No, no, they're really doing it. It's going to have the ball's been snapped and they're not going to get it. Oh, my God. And then Bryce Young scores a touchdown to make
Starting point is 00:20:04 it 21, 21. It did not feel good. It did feel stressful at that point because you don't want your head coach who we all believe in to be making mistakes like that. Yada, yada, yada. They scored 59 points in the game. It's Rahimi and Grody on 104-3 of the score. We'll talk more about that and a few other stressful moments that are on our minds.
Starting point is 00:20:24 But we've had people asking us about our guest list for Bears Mondays and Bears weeks in general. As you know, we stack it here at the score with great insightful guests. Can we get some music for our... announcement that we didn't plan on announcing. But I feel like some NFL music, you know. Or limp biscuit or system of a down or just anything. Anything would sound
Starting point is 00:20:49 good. Because we literally had somebody ask us, hey, is your quarterback guru Tim Jenkins coming back? Well, and number one, the meatball machine is open. That's true, too. We had a lot of questions. Meatball machine at 145 per usual. But in the meantime, the meatball machine
Starting point is 00:21:05 is open for you. It never went away. Go to the Odyssey app. And then right next to listen live, you hit that button right there next to listen live, and you can leave a 60 second message for us to play on the air. That's only 60 seconds, the voice message. So you got to do some work, or else you got to call back and leave another message. That's right. That's 145, right?
Starting point is 00:21:25 Correcto. Yes, yes. We already have one of our guests on today that you will join us weekly. That's Anthony Herron. He'll be a part of the show throughout the Bears season and more because, you know, is Anthony Herron. We love Anthony Herron. at 1 p.m. today and usually 1 p.m. on Mondays,
Starting point is 00:21:41 Dan Wheater of the athletic, ladies and gentlemen. Weezy. That's right. Take the North up and running right now. Dan was in Carolina. Can't wait to talk to him at 1 o'clock just to set the scene for us. You two kids record a Take the North Pod yet? We did.
Starting point is 00:21:56 We just record it last night. It was wild. I did it from Fox 32. He did it from Carolina. Anyway, you got to do it. We got it done last night. So that's up and running right now. Take the North.
Starting point is 00:22:05 We appreciate your support. Tuesdays here on Rahimi and Grotie during bear season. It's going to be Patrick Manley at 11 a.m. I had a blast with Manali and Olin Kruits yesterday doing pre and post game here on the score. They sounded so happy. Oh, it was so good. Olin this morning, too, was the happiest I've ever heard him. It just warms my heart.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Giddy Olin. Olin's going to be doing dances and all sorts of stuff. All that stuff that he usually is disgusted by. I don't know, man. Like the buy-in he has of Ben Johnson is like at a 10. Like it is for all of us. But in true Olin form, he then caught himself being too positive and said, now I might get used as the poison, you know, in the Bears locker room because I'm too effusive in my praise.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Well, that's why we love Olin. He is so real and he's awesome. 1225. There he is. Tim Jenkins on Tuesdays. He's our quarterback guru. He breaks on every single thing that Caleb Williams does. and we can ask him any question about any throw or any interception or any incompletion.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Hopefully there's not a lot of those. But he's awesome. So we love that he is back. At 1 o'clock on Tuesdays, we will have a bear. We will have on the show 1 p.m. on Tuesdays, defensive tackle Neville Gallimore. We wanted some personality, man. And we think on this show that Neville Gallimore will provide a big pop of personality. He seems like an interesting human being and hopefully he'll have a great season too.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Super entertaining. If you've ever watched him on bear social media, I think he's really funny and just, yeah, engaging. So we're looking forward to it. We love that he agreed to join us. So he will join us tomorrow, Tuesday at 1 p.m. on Wednesdays. Our guy, Mike Florio will be on at 11. I mean, he's on with us all season long, but it's even, it goes up a level during the season. He's on with us at 11 a.m. on Wednesdays. 1 p.m. It will be Clay Hart. who will join us. A lot of times he joins us in studio when he's available. We'd love having Clay. His insights are awesome. And then we'll have Herb Howard on. We don't know exactly the times because sometimes that is a fluid situation considering what goes on at Hallis Hall. So he'll join us on Wednesdays and Thursdays. Herb will join us. Our new official full-time Bears Beat reporter here on the score. If you missed the dramatic passing of the torch last week from Cody's, I did do that as Herb Howard takes it over for me. on Thursdays as well. I'm in.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Danny Parkins at 1 p.m. on Thursday. I am going to have to watch First Things First today because why do I have the feeling Danny is going to be doing victory laps? Well, what, because Josh Allen is going to win MVP this year? Oh. No, no. No, there's already videos coming out of Danny celebrating. He's going to have a costume, right?
Starting point is 00:24:58 He's got to have some sort of pageantry involved. There's some massive chain. So I have a feeling that that's going to come into play. I'm imagining it's a chain with a spinning Ben Johnson face on it. That's what I'm picturing. Somebody make that. Somebody has to make that now. Is Ben Johnson okay with it?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Oh man, Olin was hilarious about Danny yesterday talking about his takes. We've been all over those Danny takes. The take audit is one of my favorite things that Danny came up with last week. He claims he had already come up with the phrase take audit. But I hadn't heard it until... I hadn't either. Yeah. That was new to our show.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And then finally on Fridays, thrilled that we have these two insiders back like we had last Friday. I love our Fridays. 11 a.m. on Fridays, the great Adam Hogue will join us of Hogan Johns and C.HGO. And then Kevin Fishpane. He is terrific and awesome. The nuggets are second to none. He will join us on Friday at 1225 Fisciy Business, of course, from the athletic. I like the way this list looks, and who knows who will pop up intermittently throughout the season on Rahimi and Grody.
Starting point is 00:26:06 You've got a beer down on a daily basis. That's right, Stony. All right, back to stress. Let's get stressed again. You know, we talked about the fourth downplay. And again, my feelings in the moment were, okay, I trust you, Ben Johnson. Like, I admit, I don't know how you felt in the moment. I was not, like, punching the wall.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Like, what are you doing? You're crazy. I was sort of like, okay, what do you got here? you're Ben Johnson. This is what you do. You learn from Dan Campbell. We live with it. We die with it. Of course, I was pissed off when it didn't work. But I have to admit, I was not one of those who was enraged with Ben Johnson for doing what he did.
Starting point is 00:26:43 You don't get enraged because the game ended so well for the team. Yeah, but even in the moment, even in the moment where it wasn't, the game was not in tow at the time. I'm saying in the moment, in the moment, what were you feeling? Were you mad? Were you like, you're crazy man? I thought it was a bad call. And they hadn't really gotten down. at that point yet enough to where I felt confident that they would get the proper forward
Starting point is 00:27:05 movement in that sneak that they wanted to. And I thought it was a bad habit too where Caleb Williams backs into the line of scrimmage and you're not, if your quarterback doesn't believe he's getting across, there's no way you're getting across. There were multiple failures on that play, but I felt the same way. So even when you hear Drew Brees say, well, maybe they were trying to draw off sides at their home. Yeah, that was the other part about this.
Starting point is 00:27:34 It wasn't at Soldier Field. It's not unprecedented. Ben Johnson is playing chess, not necessarily checkers. So what was he trying to set up? But that was the only fourth down that they went for in the game. And I think it's because they ended up having such a significant lead.
Starting point is 00:27:50 There were times where that lead was in question. A stressful moment was Caleb Williams throwing an interception in the end zone that got nullified because of a penalty. That was very stressful. There were a couple. And at that point, then that's when they end up scoring 52. That was on that drive.
Starting point is 00:28:05 So I can't even believe I'm saying that in these moments. But I do think that when it came to the fourth and one, it was too aggressive. I can't justify making that call on the road against a team that was offensively moving the ball very well on you. To put it like that, where the going down by more, and they didn't at that point, it was a tie game. but where you could put yourself into a bigger hole against a team where you might have needed that touchdown back in another learning scenario, I don't necessarily know that that's the call you make.
Starting point is 00:28:38 All right, so we've two stressful moments. That one. Layla mentioned the interception in the end zone. That was momentary. Oh, no, no, no. You just wanted to seal the deal at that point. Absolutely. The beginning of the game was 100% stressful.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I mean, the Andre Swift, big run. You're like, oh, yeah, this is what I've been talking about, this whole preseason. I've been telling all you guys when I go out to the training camp, DeAndre Swift looks great. He's poised to have his best year. He pops a big one called back on a hold by Roma Dunzee. That wasn't even the most stressful part of the start. Luther Burden, whom we all bought stock in because we were urged to, by the head coach, with that fumble to turn it over. And then Bryce Young turns it into seven.
Starting point is 00:29:26 That was super stressful. Stevenson and Thineman missing tackles back to back early on in the game. The false starts, you know, one of them by Bradbury as well. I found that I was very stressed out with the chaotic beginning for the bears. I was like, is this what we're going to be talking about in this game? Is this going to be one of those weird openers that comes undone? And it was quite the antithesis as it turned out. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And one of my favorite radio show hosts in Dallas joke that Ben Johnson was Icarus. What's that? The mythical creature in mythology who flew too close to the song and had wax wings and then melted and met its untimely fate. Okay. I didn't know that that was Icarus. I've heard flying too close to the sun. Did you guys know Ike-know-Icarus? I knew of the reference.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I didn't know all of the lure, such as the wax wings I didn't know. I know the reference. Yeah, but Penn Johnson was indeed not Icarus. He did not fly too close to the sun. he ended up winning the game handily and could have scored 60, dare I say. I really wanted them to go for two. I know you did. I thought that would be a little gluttonous myself.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I was there too. But when your defense gives up 37 points, if you just blind item that, and you don't know what happened to the game, you don't feel good about your chances. How about Baby T, do you guys think that Baby T, Tyler Farrengold, that he wanted 60? Well, you know, you talked about... Baby Tee wanted to go for it on every fourth down. He wanted Tory Taylor to not exist. No banana ball punt by Tori Taylor, which worked, by the way.
Starting point is 00:30:58 How about that? That was part of the weaponry that Ben Johnson mentioned. Oh, Grotie mentioned the stressful start of the game. And, you know, we had wrapped up the pregame show with Olin and Pat and Grotie. And I was here in the control room. And Baby T was in here with me. And he was losing his mind over the start of that game. He was in here and sensed.
Starting point is 00:31:18 He was screaming. Well, he picked 13 wins, right? You're not going to win. He did. 13 with a start like that. Ray and I also. sat behind at the Cubs game, a guy who listens, so shout out. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:31:29 He did ask me, he goes, so what do you really think? And I'm like, I'm telling you, I really think it's, I've got 11 and 6 on my schedule. That's hilarious. That's so funny, like, when people ask, okay, what's the real deal? I know what you guys say, but really, what's really going on? No, what's really going on is what's really going on. Yeah, there are times when our minds change, but then there are times where if you can't find tape of us saying something, it's probably because that's how we really felt.
Starting point is 00:31:50 That's true. When we come back, we haven't talked much about, if at all, about, about, the Roma Dunesay Randy Moss-esque moment in the game and Fox analyst Drew Breeze broke it down expertly. He had some things to say. Layla and I
Starting point is 00:32:07 have some things to say about that particular play. So we'll keep it rolling next here. On a victory Monday, the chickens coming. It's Rahimi and Grody on 104 3 the score. Rahimi and Grotie. Let's go live to our hotline. Pete Crow Armstrong. What's going through
Starting point is 00:32:22 your mind right now? Oh, sorry, but Watch your profanity. He said pop of the mind. You've got to let it flow, and I feel like that's exactly what happened. Our poor producer Ray spilled his coffee, so thanks for christening our studio. Midday, 10 a.m. to 2 on the score. Score. Williams is well-protected, flushed out, making for the home run ball down field.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Doonesay over the picks it out of the air and takes it down inside the 10. Quite a catch by Roma Dunesay there. Rehemi and Grotie on 104. the score. That's in the first quarter. It's a second and eight, 47 yards. Caleb Williams said, okay, I see you. I'm going to throw it up here. And Roma Dunesay then goes over the top of, as mentioned there by Adam Amin on Fox, the young cornerback, Will Lee. And that led to a Dandre Swift touchdown. I mean, Leila, that's part of why the Bears drafted Roma Dunsat number nine overall in 2024, because he could make catches like that with the big bottom.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Well, that was it. And Rome was also wide open whenever he threw up his hand to signify that he was. You know, he's on the right side of the field. Caleb Williams likes to roll out right. We see Rome throw up his hand. I don't think there's anybody within a six-yard vicinity of him. Once he threw up his hand, he then had to adjust because once Caleb saw him. And wasn't that the play where Caleb threw mid-air? He had left both his feet to go up. Was that? I mean, I know that there was at least another play where. where he did the Jordan thing. No, it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't quite the Jordan where he's got his, like, his feet apart.
Starting point is 00:34:07 But there was one where he lifts up and throws up. And I believe that was the one. I'd have to double check the tape. But the point is, Caleb Williams found him. He had to come back to the ball a little bit. He did, like Caleb. It took a little while for Caleb because you're right. There was like, he had like three or four steps on Will Lee.
Starting point is 00:34:23 But then eventually he wasn't as open when Caleb found him. But Caleb trusted him, made the right throw. and obviously Romadunzee made the right play and the right man was in the booth well qualified to talk about a play like that. Fox analyst Drew Breeze broke down Roma Dunzee's catch late in the first quarter. This is just, hey, I trust my guy.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Sometimes people like to haul these 50-50 balls when the DB's back is turned and you're throwing to your number one receiver, this is an 80-20 ball. He's got to beat by seven yards, but the minute you feel the DB's back turn, you trust your guy. It's either a catcher,
Starting point is 00:34:59 be a PI. In that case, it is a heck of a catch by Roma Dunesay. Look at that. And the important part that here that Drew Breez illustrates is when he says it's either going to be a catch or a PI, your chances are already favorable. Yeah. Because you're either drawing the pass interference as he mentions, which gives you the downfield yards, or you actually get the catch. And for Rome to get that to, trust his instincts, no, he's open, no, he can get that ball. And then even when the coverage comes to him, he's still able to maintain. his composure and use his hands to his advantage to get that ball was huge. I did see the replay.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Caleb Williams did leave both feet and he was jumping while he was throwing that ball. And that's the other part of this, to have the arm strength to be able to do that mid-air when you're supposed to be planted to be able to get that loft. Incredible on both sides. No doubt, no doubt. A good memory by you. It led to a swift touchdown on the other part of this as well. And shout out to our next guest coming up at 1 o'clock, Dan Weider.
Starting point is 00:35:59 who wrote a whole article in the athletic about the scrambled drill and how some of that, like they want to take the scramble drill to another level this year and play off of it, as if it's its own offensive set. That was a scrambled drill scenario right there. So Caleb, good for Caleb to finally identify, took him a second to get there and Robo Dunesay pulling the play in as well. So like more of that, more diversified.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I just love that. you know, the scramble drill wasn't always necessary last year, but I think that was a justified spot for it. Well, and what's funny is, you know, who else had himself a few scramble drills was the guy on the other side. We saw Bryce Young do some of that, too. Yeah, he was good. I mean, he was really good.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Like, 300. We keep talking about the breakdowns by Jalen Johnson and Tyreek Stevens and justifiably, but he was good. Like Bryce Young might be going to another level as well. He's not in the Caleb atmosphere, I don't think, but who knows? I mean, he obviously ascended and had career highs in most offensive categories last year. I think he could still be pretty good. I also think that what we saw with some respect on the Carolina defense overall given to Romadunesay.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah. I think they anticipated that he was probably going to get the most targets. Kaleef Raymond, I think it may, is Kaleef the new Blanky? We might want to discuss that. Eight catches. Because this is Blanky. Yeah, and that was referring to Rome previously. But I feel like Caleb Williams definitely knew where to find Kali Fremman.
Starting point is 00:37:28 and when he needed to. But I feel like the Panthers defense tried to negate the threat of Romadunze as much as they could. Rome's still doing some fun athlete things like we saw on that catch. And then ultimately, just a really nice performance out of the receivers. How about the fact that Colston Loveland, you know, here we are talking about everything that went on in the game. And we thought Colson Loveland would be a huge part of this. And then he wasn't even targeted in the first half, but two times, right?
Starting point is 00:37:56 On the whole game, you're right? And I think that's awesome because it's like, I mean, I think Ben has said versions of, hey, man, there's going to be games where one guy is going to get one or two catches and he's not going to be a big part of it. And then like somebody like Colston Love, I wouldn't be surprised if he had 10 catches 400 yards against Minnesota on Sunday. So it's kind of nice when in theory maybe your best offensive receiver or catcher of footballs didn't have a quote unquote good game, although the blocking was pretty sound in what he had been doing.
Starting point is 00:38:28 That's a pretty good sign. But how about Colquette? Like Colquette got to be the star on that 22-yard play. Another drop in the bucket. Caleb Williams is pretty good, we're finding out, throwing into double coverage. Which I always go back to Jake Cutler when I think about that because he would throw into double and triple coverage and it never seemed to work out. Like he was fearless in that regard.
Starting point is 00:38:52 There is a touch that we have been seeing since the second half of last year with Caleb Williams in those scenarios. and it was gorgeous to see. Well, and if you're really good, you can be confident and throw into double coverage. You also have to have the receivers who are good enough to get it. And Rome, that was his bread and butter at Washington when he was in college. He was really good at the go up and get it. 414 on our tax line 312, 644, 67, 67 is our number. They say, I've seen Caleb miss quite a few deep balls.
Starting point is 00:39:20 So I'm surprised to hear when they say he's so great at throwing the deep pass. He's got the arm strength to do it. and when you see him throw last year, for example, a ball off flea flicker that goes more than 60 yards in the air, you know that he's good at the armed talent. It's just sometimes they don't always line up in the deep game. I think he's been reluctant because he doesn't want to throw interceptions to throw more downfield.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And we've been saying, I've been saying in particular, I want him to take more shots for that reason. Yep. Dan Weeder of the Athletic and my partner on the Take the North podcast was in Carolina yesterday. Let's bring him in next to see what he thinks about this Bears' 59-37 win over Carolina. Weed Man next on Rahimi and Grotie on 104-3, The Score.

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