Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - 5 On It & setting the table for the Bulls' trade deadline decisions (Hour 3)

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

In the third hour, Marshall Harris and Mark Grote discussed a variety of sports topics in the 5 On It segment. After that, they set the table for the decisions the Bulls will need to make at the trade... deadline. Later, they reacted to legendary head coach Bill Belichick being snubbed by the Pro Football Hall of Fame in his first year on the ballot.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This hour is brought to you by Vesectomy Clinics of Chicago. Live on, Naila Rahimi and Marshall Harris with more grok. Bring you five topics of their mind today. On Chicago Sports Radio 670, the score. Number one. This week, Bleacher Report floated the following trade scenario. The Bears send Colcomette to the tight-end, needy Panthers in exchange for a 2026 fifth round pick. A move that would save general manager, Ryan Poles & Company, $8.4 million.
Starting point is 00:00:34 if they trade him before March 15th, what are your thoughts on the idea of trading Colcombe? I mean, there is some temptation to that when I hear it, or to put it another way, it would be a cap hit of $11.6 million for next year. If the Bears can get out of it, they can get out of it with $3.2 million of dead money as well. My overall, what I'm feeling on the overall, though,
Starting point is 00:01:00 is you kind of need that guy still. You need a Cole Commet on your team because of what he does as far as blocking. Lord knows he made some massive catches this season for the Bears. Again, a veteran player who has been paid, we know what he is worth to a locker room. We know that there's heavy, heavy duty value in that as it pertains to Cole Commet. But I will keep it more on the field in terms of what he is doing for the offense, and making plays, and we know how important that is for Ben Johnson's offense. So if I got to hit the yes-no button right now, I am a, I'm a no.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I'm a no-one letting go Cole Commet. It's interesting because if you go back to the end of the season after the loss of the Rams, Cole Comette was one of the biggest voices in that locker room talking about how this season was good. We are starting from scratch, echoing the sentiment of his head coach Ben Johnson. and I think that's why he becomes more valuable than if you look at a spreadsheet and just say he had this many catches for this many yards. Knowing how much Ben Johnson likes to use 13 personnel and the importance of not just having a second tight-in, but a good second tight-in, I would like to think they could figure something out with Colquette's contract. I understand if they do move him.
Starting point is 00:02:30 it's tempting. That's why I said. My first thought is it's tempting, but no. Because it's not as high as some of the other things on their priority list when you're talking about who to bring back. Like if you had to choose between Kevin Byard or Colquette, who you're choosing. Yeah. So, yes, in that same vein. That's the answer, right?
Starting point is 00:02:50 These are the tough questions. For me, it is. I didn't hesitate. These are the tough questions that have to get answered over at Halles Hall in the next month or so. Well, then the other part two, in the not in Cole Komet's corner would be the fact that eventually I'd like to think that the bear is going to be in a whole lot of money
Starting point is 00:03:09 to Colston Lovell and now you have the luxury of a rookie contract right now. We got a long ways from that. That's true. I don't know that Cole Komet will be a bear by the time his rookie contract in Colston's I'm saying. That probably is jumping the gun a little bit. But yeah, I just think that there's because the bears are winning, I mean that that's another thing.
Starting point is 00:03:26 They won in that offense with Cole Komet. That's something that you have in your power to keep, and I would say it's good to keep Colquamette. Number two. Only two teams can reach the Super Bowl. That means there's a lot of football fans that are left disappointed. But here's question number two.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Which fan base is more down bad this week? The Vikings for watching Seahawks quarterback Sam Darnal get to the Super Bowl or Titans fans for watching Patriots head coach Mike Vrable go to the Super Bowl. It's got to be the Vikings. It's got to be Vikings because I don't know with the way their season ended last year in the playoffs that most of us didn't agree that Sam Darnel was good but not good enough to get you where you wanted to go. And yet here they are, Sam Darnel, one season being removed from winning 14 games to winning another 14 games. Do you understand only one other quarterback has done as much winning in two seasons in back-to-back seasons as Sam Darnold?
Starting point is 00:04:29 Do you know who that quarterback is? That would be Tom Brady. And so to see him do it not only under the guys of the quarterback whisper, Kevin O'Connell, but to go and do it now with Mike McDonald's company and to be on the doorstep of winning a Super Bowl in which you could argue
Starting point is 00:04:48 he's the better quarterback in the Super Bowl, that's outstanding. So it's got to be the Vikings just, and the other reason is the Titans are a dumpster fire until proven otherwise. And I agree with you that it's the Vikings. And I would say a little bit differently on my reasoning for Vrable, gone with Tennessee, and now obviously back in with New England once as a player, now as a head coach.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Just from being around here and following the Bears since I was sports conscious, like sometimes your time just runs out as a head coach in the NFL with the team and the fan base, even if you know that there's still value there, that you know, like Tennessee could look at Mike Vrable and say, yeah, let's say more, there was success while Mike Vrable was here. He was a good coach while he was here. Good enough to have gotten one of the prime gigs in the NFL to be with New England. But sometimes the time, like, sometimes it's a perfect separation.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Time runs out. So in other words, and we'd have to, like, we should ask our guy, Ryan Porth. Maybe Ryan Porth will text us and let us know how. he feels about that as a Tennessee Titans fan. My guess is that they were ready for a change. Now, it might hurt a little bit to see Rabel doing what he's doing, but I don't think there's the angst of, God, I wish we didn't, I wish we still had that guy. It's sort of like Lovie Smith. Like the time, you definitely make an argument that after a 10 and 6 season, a coach shouldn't be fired. But if you were following the Bears, you kind of knew time was up with Lovie Smith.
Starting point is 00:06:23 and that style. There was fatigue there. It's hard to explain, but I think that might be what's going on with Tennessee. But the Darnold stuff, my God, and it's because of J.J. McCarthy's lack of success. If McCarthy had been more successful this year, and I know he finished strong,
Starting point is 00:06:41 then that would have tempered the hurt because at least you know, yeah, Sam Darnold's out here doing great things, but at least you would know that your young quarterback was promising as well. I think that that would be digested, This can't be very digestible for the Vikings nor their fans. I will add something here to take a phrase from Mark Grody.
Starting point is 00:07:02 It will take you backstage. This question was submitted by our program director Ryan Porth himself. He didn't tell me how he's feeling if he feels like Titans fans are more down bad than Vikings fans. But I get the picture maybe. Maybe he's feeling that way. All right, Ryan Porth. Bye-bye, sir. Five on it.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Number three. Pardth. Where's Ryan Pardth? He's not here. Where is he? Where's Pardth? I love Harry Carey wanting to know. It does feel like a hangover here today.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Just because of the extraordinary events of yesterday. 100% in the salute. Like, it's a weird feel. Absolutely. I get it. I get it. God bless everybody. Pardth.
Starting point is 00:07:52 This is five on it on 670. The score, that man, Harry Carey is actually Mark Grody. That man's Marshall Harris. Here's question number three. The Steelers held their introductory press conference for new head coach Mike McCarthy on Monday. Check out McCarthy's response to this question. In your best case scenario, do you want Aaron Rogers back as your quarterback next year? That's nice way he asked that, right?
Starting point is 00:08:15 That was slick. I mean, definitely. I mean, obviously, why you wouldn't? But, you know, I think just like anything, you know, knowing Aaron long enough going through seasons, you know, I think when players, you know, to see Mel Blund here, I mean, when guys are up at that stage of the career, they need to step away and decompress it. That's, I think that's very important. The game is so emotional, you know, what these men commit to and what they put into it. I think that time away is important. And, you know, and I have spoken to Aaron.
Starting point is 00:08:47 and so that's really where, you know, that's really where we are there. But I was able to sit back and watch the games. I watched most of the Pittsburgh games on TV. And I thought he was a great asset for the team. It's a new Steelers head coach, Mike McCarthy at his introductory press conference yesterday. Here's the question, do you believe quarterback Aaron Rogers will return to the Steelers in 2026? No. No, I don't think he will.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And I don't think, like Mike McCarthy, I think, I think answered. that question perfectly, but the truth is he knows that he doesn't have to be alone. You're not alone, Mike. Mike does not have to make that decision. He can blame somebody else. Like if Aaron Rogers is even desirous of playing football again, let alone with the Pittsburgh Steelers, let alone for Mike McCarthy, and it all makes sense that he would want to get back to working with Mike McCarthy and not getting to Super Bowls and underachieving in the playoffs. I'm sure that that's something that he would be desirous of doing. But yeah, I don't think it's going to happen and I don't know that either of the parties necessarily wants it to happen either.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I, I, I know Grotie is waiting this answer because he thinks I'm in love with Aaron Rogers. I'm not. You're not? No. What? I just recognize how good he is. Oh, hold on. You know, he's a big Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Wait, wait, right. You think I'm in love with Aaron Rogers? I thought you were wearing a I love Aaron Rogers t-shirt today. I think you are in love with Aaron Rogers the way apparently many people are in love with their AI devices. There's a bromance there. There's no romance here. I understand his talent. I was very sure that he and the Steelers were not about to miss the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:10:34 They love him. And they didn't. That's not what I'm saying. Blind it by love. Just say it. You don't have to use all these extra words. I will be surprised if Aaron Rogers is back with the Pittsburgh Steelers next season. That's what I will say.
Starting point is 00:10:45 talking sense over there, kid. I've always talked since. I wasn't the one saying the stills are going to win six games. That was you. You're right. I had a bad year with predictions. Yeah, let's be honest. Is that going to curb your predictions? Like, there could be a year in review with Mark Grotty's bad predictions from the season. Will that curb future Mark Grotty
Starting point is 00:11:01 predictions? No, never. Okay. You think I'm going to be shy around these microphones? Are the Cubs going to win the division? I'm not ready to put myself out there yet. Well, Mr. Number one, Aaron Rogers, fan, I do have a follow. What's your follow-up question? So will Aaron Rogers play at all in 2026? That's an even better question. Is that an addendum to the question?
Starting point is 00:11:22 I think he will. Wow. I don't, hmm. And he may not start the season on somebody's roster, but somebody might get hurt and then Aaron Rogers comes and saves the day. You do love him, don't you? I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Baby, come back. I'm glad that the landlord sold. And he's no longer, you know, reporting to Chicago. Like, last I check, here's how much I don't love Aaron Rogers. Last I checked, he was too scared to play against the Bears last season. That's true. Isn't that what you remember it? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Isn't that how you remember it? He's like, I'm not, I don't want to do this again, man. I want to push my luck. I might lose and lose my kingdom. Number four. According to the athletics, Diana Rossini, the Cardinals interviewed former Panthers and commanders, head coach Ron Rivera and Bears Super Bowl champion.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Chico. In person for their head coaching vacancy. Rivera currently serves as the general manager for Cal Football. will Ron Rivera get an NFL head coaching job before Matt Negi? Will Ron Rivera get an NFL head coaching job before former Bears head coach Matt Neggie? To that I say, does a redhead named Wendy Eat Square Burgers? Oh, yeah. Does a one-legged duck swim in a circle?
Starting point is 00:12:42 Bring it. Does Mark Grody Uber eats things that are very, much accessible by just going downstairs and walking a couple of blocks? He does. Yeah. The answer is yes. The answer is yes, yes, yes and yes. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it certainly is trending in that direction, isn't it? I mean, I'd be, honestly, though, I'll be real impressed with Ron Rivera if he gets another head coaching gig, man. He just, he just keeps going. He does. Like, that guy is ambitious and motivated. I'm with you. Yeah. because I'm just not crazy about that even Ron Rivera coaching again.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Like it doesn't move the, God bless Ron Rivera. We all love Ron Rivera. But that doesn't move the meter for me. Still, he's going to have a job before Matt Nagy. Matt Nagy, I try to support him. I do. I really do because I liked Man Nagy. I covered Mad Nagy.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And look, I was very critical of the things that he did. But on the overall, I always thought he was and still think I think this seemed like a really nice organized, inspiring, extroverted, good, coachy coach type of guy who could command a room. So it's disappointing for me to have heard some of the things that I've heard and just the way he has gone about business
Starting point is 00:14:01 in terms of trying to get a head coaching job. So I still root for the guy, but yeah, Jiko. Number five. Coming to number five, Brown's backup quarterback, Shadour Sanders, was named as Patriots quarterback, Drake May's,
Starting point is 00:14:18 replacement on the Pro Bowl games roster. So I'm asking, how are you guys feeling about Sanders getting a Pro Bowl nod? It's ridiculous. It's just, it's ridiculous, it's hilarious, it's maybe it's a bleep you. I'm not sure what it is. I guess it's a little poetic justice for Shadour himself, considering what he went through on Draft Day and the Blockbuster story he was. I mean, that's getting, you're guessing.
Starting point is 00:14:48 back right there if you're Shador Sanders in some way. But in the name of time, I will keep it at it is ridiculous and hilarious that he's going to the Pro Bowl. I'm trying to understand exactly how this happened, right? Because you look at the Pro Bowl selections in the AFC. Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Drake May. Got that? Alan, Herbert, May. That makes sense, correct? Yeah. And then you start thinking about, okay, well, the playoffs happen when a Super Bowl quarterback gets there, that player has to be replaced. Makes all the sense in the world. What I'm confused about is how we got to Shador Sanders over, start, let me just start naming guys.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah, and I'm going to say hilarious after everyone. Lamar Jackson? Hilarious. Joe Burrow? There is. Trevor Lawrence. Ridiculous. and hilarious.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I guess that's it? Because you look at some of the other teams. You're not going to have someone from the Raiders, Geno Smith. You're not going to have someone from the Titans. Although the argument, I guess, could be made if he's doing it. Why couldn't Cam Ward do it? Like, he's a higher pick. The Browns won five games.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Cam Ward and the Titans won three games. There's a lot of quarter. There's probably some backup quarterbacks that were more productive. I'm almost like, couldn't Philip Rivers have been the backup? Couldn't you have been the guy? That's where we are. That would have been fun. If Philip Rivers had been named to the flag football game, that would be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:16:27 So, you get what I'm saying? And I just, Lamar Jackson and Trevor Lawrence must have said no. I think, I think. You would have asked Joe Burrow before you asked Sodor Sanders? So I just want to know, I want a more thorough accounting of how we got here. Okay. That's it. That was five?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah, that was five. We nailed it. I thought we were like, okay, I thought we were a little bit backed up there. We never backed up. That makes me happy. You know what else? You stay regular over here. A lot of fiber in the diet.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Oh, yeah. Taco Bell? Taco Bell. Look, if you're backed up, eat some Taco Bell. I was at the Bulls-Lakers game the other nights, and I want to share a little bit of what I was feeling out there, watching the Bulls and the Lakers at the UC, unfortunately not a particularly good performance for the Chicago Bulls. And there is a lot going on, including news surrounding Janice, Atentacupo.
Starting point is 00:17:26 There is a trade deadline coming up in the NBA. The Bulls have a game tonight at Indiana, 6 o'clock right here on the score. That's the stew we're cooking up for our next segment here. Rahimi Harrison Grotie on the score. Rahimi Harrison Grotie. Midday's 10 a.m. to 2. on Chicago Sports Radio 670 this war. We'll stay present in the moment,
Starting point is 00:17:55 and we're going to, you know, look at this year, at this team, how we're going to start, how we're going to go through the season, and, you know, again, you know, all those very specific goals and how we want to play and how the guys have to respond.
Starting point is 00:18:11 We're probably going to have to play, you know, long rotations because, you know, we wanted to play fast and high pace. So we'll see during the year, and that information collected is going to help us to make those decisions. That's the president of basketball operations for the Bulls, Arturis, Karnasovas, back in September, as we welcome you back into Rahimi Harrison Grotie on the score. The Bulls have a game tonight. Bulls at the Pacers tonight. Early one, 545 pregame, 6 p.m. jumper in Indy.
Starting point is 00:18:47 the pretty bad Indiana Pacers, my goodness, they could have won a title last year. And Halliburton is not there. They are 11 and 36. And as a matter of fact, the Bulls are 0.2. So two of the 11 wins for the Pacers have come at the expense of the Chicago Bulls. And Marshall, what is still continued to be really important, I mean, as we monitor and track the Bulls' progress on the court, what they're doing at 20, 23 and 23 had been on a little bit of a roll until the Lakers game where they lost 129 to 118. But with the trade deadline bearing down, bears on February 5th and it just happens.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And the Bulls having seven potential free agents. They're in the news. And there is a gentleman by the name of Janice Antecoompo who has continued to make waves in Milwaukee. So, Shams Tarania, with this, this, this happened. in just an hour ago or so. Two-time MVP, Janice, Antecumpo, ready for a new home ahead of the February 5th trade deadline. That's next week. As several teams have made aggressive offers to the Milwaukee Bucks who are starting to listen,
Starting point is 00:20:02 league sources told ESPN on Wednesday. So what this signals is that the Bucks are listening and that Yannis is okay with the idea of being traded. Now, something you've got to point out is, Janus is hurt right now. and Janice is supposed to be out four to six weeks and he becomes eligible to sign a four-year $275 million super max on October 1st of this year if you're not doing the math at home
Starting point is 00:20:31 it's about $70 million a year. Those and comes with a couple of aprons, right? Yeah, you... Throwing a couple aprons? Probably depending on what your cap space situation looks like. Yeah, it's a definite apron situation. You're going to be in trouble. but if he already have him, you know, that's different rules apply if you're signing somebody
Starting point is 00:20:48 that's already within your organization as opposed to him becoming a free agent. So he's been there 12 years, and in an ideal world, the Bulls who fans will tell you, are starving for a superstar of Janus's magnitude. That's all they need. That's what everybody says. That's what they say. Would be in perfect position to make a trade to get Janus on their roster, at this deadline if
Starting point is 00:21:15 it was if that hurt oh god they had pulled off that deal to trade away the first round pick to New Orleans Pelicans for this year's unprotected
Starting point is 00:21:29 lottery pick that should anger all Bulls fans it really should because you talked about it at the time I talked about it immediately as soon as Joe Dumas the president of basketball operations for the Pelicans said he offered it to everyone ahead of, you know, the hawks who ended up taking the deal right behind the Bulls.
Starting point is 00:21:51 This has nothing to do with Noah Asengay, their first round pick. This has everything to do with understanding that in this climate, you need to be nimble as an organization and be able to quickly make moves when players become available. And now they are missing the window. They could make a trade for Janus. They could trade future first round picks. but the problem is what they would have to trade away to match salaries and everything else
Starting point is 00:22:15 those would be the players that Yannis would need to play with to be good. It would be the equivalent of him coming to Chicago and being on a roster that looks like the roster he's playing on right now with the bucks. That's not the goal. The goal is to have him play with other good players that can elevate him back. So the Bulls fall to the bottom of the heap,
Starting point is 00:22:35 namely because they don't have the draft capital to make the trade, but also the players they would have to give up in that deal are the players he would need to. play with to be good. He's past, what is it, 12 years? 12 years in the year. That hit me a little bit. Yannis has been in the league for 12 years.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Yeah, 12 and a half. That's crazy. He seems like he's been just the way he plays still, like his athleticism and all. It feels like he's been in the league for five or six years. I mean, Yonis started young, too. Let's not throw that out of the window. He started young. It wasn't like he came out of college.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah, he would, no college, right. Yes. So I think. That's a good thing to ask. in though. But the important thing here is if you're the Bulls and you have all these players, Nikola Vutrovich, Kobe White, Iodosumu, the list goes on and on. No, Giddy's under Locking Key. Oh, right, right. You're seven. You're going through the potential for free agents. Got you. Got you. Got you. Got you. Then what are you going to do ahead of the deadline? Who should you move?
Starting point is 00:23:32 And what should the return price be? They need first rounders. Get first rounders. And if you can't get a first rounder, at least send Patrick Williams out with that deal. Like, you get this great value of Iota Sumu, who's $7.5 million in his final year of a contract. Attach Patrick Williams, so now you don't have that $18 million per season also on your roster. You either get draft picks or you get rid of Patrick Williams in one of these deals. The thing that I want people to understand before this trade deadline happens is no matter what they do, they will not be tanking. they're just not built to tank. They would get worse, though, obviously, if they were to make a move.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And it might be shrewd to do. I think it would be okay to take your foot off the gas. I'm not saying tank. I really, like, if you can get assets, as you said, you can maybe at the expense of the rest of this season, but build it right back up in the offseason with the assets that you would take. But that's my point. There's no really rest of this season.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Even if they get rid of some of these. really good players, like their leading score on Kobe White, Billy Donovan is going to coach them to play hard, and they're going to win more games than they should because the East is that bad. Of course, and I don't think that our tourists nor Mark Eversley, getting to know them a little bit, have it in them to be guys that are going to be like, yeah, let's, hey, Billy, wink, wink, you know, that does not seem like what this organization would do, for better or for worse.
Starting point is 00:25:01 They refuse to pull the plug. Right. That's the issue. They are going to try to put a product out there. Like the one you saw. Yeah. The other night with the Lakers in town. It's not like the Bulls got blown out.
Starting point is 00:25:13 The Bulls lost the game because they had a horrible second quarter and they turned it over ten times. They lost the game because they let a bench player in Rui Hachemiro looked like a star hitting 9 of 11 shots. That's what I like about. You go deep, man. You're not looking at the bright, shiny Luca Donchitz and his 46 points or LeBron did with his 23 points at his age. I know what those guys are capable of.
Starting point is 00:25:34 We talked about it yesterday. Grotie, the Bulls play. the Lakers twice last year? How many games do the Lakers win? And both Embed and Luca played in those games. Serro. Exactly. Yeah, now it's a great point. It was so, God, what, it was one of my favorite Bulls experiences in a while out at the United Center because it had been a long time, it's going to sound weird. It's been a long time since it was really hard to park out at the United Center. Like it was, there were lots closing out at the UC. I was meeting some friends that didn't get in until the middle of the first quarter because they
Starting point is 00:26:05 underestimated the traffic around the United Center. Wow. Was that buzz? Because it was buzz, buzz, but like for many reasons, because the lovers and the haters of LeBron James are going to show up because you never know when it's going to be the last time. It was the anniversary of Kobe Bryant's death. Luca, that brings in a whole lot of people from Chicago that love Luca.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Love a little European basketball stardom. Absolutely. Absolutely. And the beauty of our city, the diversity of our city brings in those fans that are just there to watch. And Luca. And he put on a show. And he put on a show. And it was just, it was great. Like to see, to look up and see where I used to stand in the standing room only portion
Starting point is 00:26:46 of the United Center. But you're big time now. Right, right. I mean, I used to have to fight to get in during the Jordan years and stand wherever. I'd be looking through people. I didn't care. Like the whole thing. But it had that feel to it.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Like it's not like that on given night. So it made me remember what it was like when for instance. instance, Derek Rose was there or the Jordan years and what it can be if that is to arise again. But it was cool, man. And LeBron, like, breakaway dunk in the first quarter of that game brought the house down at the United Center. He had three dunks in the first half. He did. And I think he kind of like, like, obviously the Lakers are pretty good.
Starting point is 00:27:28 But there was also, there's a showman factor when LeBron comes to Chicago, too. Not only that, but I told Lila this, they definitely remember what happened last year. First of all, they got beat down. They give them 145 or 146 points in L.A. in the first meeting. And then less than a week later, they come to Chicago and Josh Giddy says, watch this from half-course. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:27:46 You think Luca and LeBron don't remember that? They came out with that type of avenging energy. It's a good point. Yeah, like that had to be on their mind. The entertainment factor a little bit. But yeah, you're right. Did it feel like LeBron's last game in Chicago? Not necessarily.
Starting point is 00:28:00 It just felt like another LeBron game to me, just watching him like I've watched him. a hundred times at the United Center in multiple uniforms. It just looked like LeBron, man. It's not the same. I get it. I'm not going to go crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:13 You say not the same, but that did not look any bit of 41. He doesn't. He doesn't. And look, I am all day, every day, every second. MJ over LeBron in that debate, and I don't even want to do the debate. That's not what I'm
Starting point is 00:28:27 trying to do right now. So just understand where I'm coming from. I am a complete Michael Jordan loyalist, but I can certainly appreciate it. a superstar like LeBron James who comes out there. And even the people who hate LeBron or say they hate LeBron probably couldn't help but jumping out of their seats when he had his first breakaway jam. What's interesting is, as you know, it's the Pacers on the schedule tonight.
Starting point is 00:28:51 They've already lost twice to a Pacer's team with 11 wins. I know. They've lost twice to a Pacer's team with 11 wins. They've also lost to the Brooklyn Nets. They've also lost to the Utah Jazz. and in the same breath, I say all of that because you look at some of the teams that they've been able to beat this season and it's like, who are you guys?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Who are you? You know, they're perfectly 23 and 23. They're 23 and 23. A lot of that has to do with the injuries. Like they won't have Trey Jones tonight. I expect them to win tonight, and I think they're going to be the ones remembering what happened in those first two meetings. Now they have Josh Kitty.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Still unclear. Y'all would have single-digit wins if it wasn't for us. They'd have nine wins that it wasn't. It's a real statement. Yeah. That's a real statement. I speak in truth. And so what's interesting about this stretch of their season is they now play four games in the next five nights.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And the first game is the one straight ahead of us. But how can you not after witnessing what we witnessed last year? Last year, Grody, how can you not think back to the play in and feel like this three games coming up? Home against Miami, day off, back-to-back away games at Miami. is not somewhat of an in-season tournament play-in style that will determine perhaps what our church, Karnas Chauvis and Mark Eversley, famously dubbed ACMI, decide to do.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And whatever it is, I hope it's better than what happens to Wiley Coyote every time he uses an ACMI product. The one thing I worry about, that is the Bulls get a week in Miami. Isn't that nice? Right? Because that's what essentially is,
Starting point is 00:30:33 it would be. I guess they probably after that if they're doing the players and the wives and the families any justice because I used to see this with the Cubs. You think they take them on the trip? Probably you know, I don't know how it works in the NBA but I do remember when I was doing pre and post with the Cubs and lucky enough to be on their charter that when they went on the West Coast trips big friends and family wives kids for those for those trips to Arizona to Los Angeles like San Francisco. of a sudden, we're going to need a bigger plane is the way it would work. I love that for them. And I love the opportunity that the Bulls have. I lament the fact that they
Starting point is 00:31:12 are not in a position to make a trade for Janus Ante Cumpo, who's recovering from a calf strain. But whenever he's healthy, he's going to help someone in a major way. Bill Belichick has been on our minds today in the wild life that he has been living and something that has been pulled out from under him pertaining to the Hall of Fame. We'll go a little bit deeper on it next here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on the score. The Rahimi Harrison Grody Show Midday's 10 to 2 on Chicago
Starting point is 00:31:42 Sports Radio 670 the score. It is Rahimi Harrison Grody on the score. It's crazy. When you just listen to what I'm about to read to you, and that is that ESPN reported yesterday that Bill Belichick will not be a first ballot
Starting point is 00:32:07 Hall of Famer. Crazy. He reportedly failed to get 40 votes from the 50-person committee. That decides who is worthy of enshrinement, and now we'll have to wait at least one more year before donning a gold jacket. Marshall, when you hear that Bill Belichick, who at some point in time, it has come out of everybody's mouths, I think, maybe in the United States of America. that Bill Belichick is the greatest head coach of all time because of his work with Tom Brady and the New England Patriots. And now he is not a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Your reaction. This feels like one of those moments where several factors get involved and way more than they should. And when I say the factors, I think the things that we look at when we think of Bill Belichick is, of course, we remember deflategate and spy gate in the times where they lost picks
Starting point is 00:33:14 and were fined heavily for cheating. Let's call it what it is. They catch you with a camera spying on other people's practices. You're not allowed to do that. That's cheating. And I know the argument will be, well, he paid for those crimes, you know, because they did dock them.
Starting point is 00:33:32 You probably fines, graphics. Yeah, so it shouldn't have an effect. and I would say yes but also there are humans involved in this process and anyone who is affected
Starting point is 00:33:47 and feels like he robbed us of our window to win championships because that's when he got caught cheating who knows how much other cheating was going on you know that that's kind of the element
Starting point is 00:33:58 it's like when someone steals from you and you find out they stole from someone else don't you just assume they're just a thief yeah I think a lot of that came into play. Now, I do think...
Starting point is 00:34:10 It's a quick little slap on the wrist on the way to the Hall of Fame for Bill. Yeah. Just like, you're not going to get away with that. Is that... I think there's also some petty involved and some ego involved. Where it may be certain writers didn't like the way he interacted or didn't interact with the media. We've all seen famous quotes from Bill Belichick at the podium. He was a pain in the ass with the media.
Starting point is 00:34:33 He was not easy to deal with. But that's not his main job. is not to be easy to deal with, it's to win games. Right, right. You're right. Petty. If that is part of it, then that's just petty. And then you take into account this idea that it's a vote and you have the five guys you're voting for and you only get so many votes and you're like, well, I'm going to vote for this guy because certainly everybody else is going to vote for Bill Belichick. And I think that's the final piece, which I don't know how much it has in a factor, but I guarantee you, if he didn't
Starting point is 00:35:01 get a, if there were 11 people out of 50, at the minimum, who left Bill Belichick off the ballot, it's because some of them thought he'd be on other ballots and they wanted to make sure their guy that they had been trying to champion. And I think this is part of what's wrong with the process. Yeah, like they didn't have to do it because other people would do it. You can't leave it to other people in a position like this.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And also for the petty people out there, the anonymous ballot thing has got to stop. The anonymous ballot has to stop. I think Mike Flora was aligned closely with where I stand on this process being anonymous. It's dumb. Let's see if we can get a little bit of insight from Dan Pompey on this. Dan Pompey Hall of Fame football writer.
Starting point is 00:35:46 He writes for the athletic. Longtime guy in this town, long time guy on the score, longtime guy with Mully and Haw. Here's what Dan Pompei had to say about the process. We are not privy to how other voters vote. When we vote, it's all done secret ballot. and we're also not supposed to talk about what happened in the meeting. But here's what I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:36:11 They changed the process of how we vote in coaching candidates last year. They are now lumped in with senior candidates and contributor candidates. So we had five of them we were discussing this year. It was Belichick, Robert Kraft, Roger Craig, Elsie Greenwood, and Kenny Anderson. And of those five, we were told to vote for three, our top three. And each one had to get at least 40 votes, and there are 50 of us on the board. And then there could be no more than three candidates who get in, and not necessarily going to be three.
Starting point is 00:36:56 So he was pitted against those other candidates. now the way I see it I don't know how you could not put them in your top three but obviously other people have different opinions I don't you know obviously his body of work look if he's not the greatest coach
Starting point is 00:37:19 in the history of the NFL based on his accomplishments you know he's certainly in the top two or three or whatever it may be you know allowing for how different errors affect results and outcomes and achievements and all that. So the way I look at it, guys, is the only way that anyone could justify keeping him out
Starting point is 00:37:43 is by saying he was a cheater. You know, he had a spy gate incident, and they're punishing him a second time. And I tend to get that part of it, actually, because be jaded, right? And I don't know if he's ever used those words, but that's what happened, right? And they paid the price no matter what the language was. So, like we do with baseball. And I get it, that's a bigger, different issue. Like, we keep superstars out of the Hall of Fame in baseball because of cheating. So I do understand some of that part, like as we go through this segment. Like, maybe he does deserve to wait. So I don't
Starting point is 00:38:25 really have as big a problem with him waiting as other people do. They're just, I can't get in. It's not, yeah, he's got to get in. He's got to get in. He's got to get it. He's got to get in. He's going to get in. But yeah, cheating's a big deal. But, but me being the math guy, I look at the game theory in all of this, because I do think there were certain people who were like, all right, I can only put three on here. I want to make sure this other guy gets in. And if I can only have three votes, somebody else will vote for, everybody else will vote for Belichick, for all I know. And you don't know. Whereas you should just be saying, who are the three most deserving people go. That should be it. And you could have a disagreement on some of the other people,
Starting point is 00:38:58 but you shouldn't be disagreeing with Bill Belichick. Either you're a Hall of Famer or you're not. And that's my thing with baseball too when they're like, oh, but you're not a first ballot Hall of Famer. No, no, no. Either you're a Hall of Famer or you're not. And the person that comes out looking the worst in all of this is not Bill Belichick and not the voters enlarge.
Starting point is 00:39:15 It's Bill Pollian, a specific voter. Because he came out and was the one arguing, according to an ESPN story, of why that cheating should affect him getting in. And then he said, oh, but I voted for him. Then in another interview with ESPN, he said he was pretty sure he voted for him. He's like a 95% chance. And to that, you just heard Dan Pompeii lay out how it happens. If you can't remember the three out of five people you voted for for the Hall of Fame,
Starting point is 00:39:46 take that man's Hall of Fame vote away from him. Ray, let's get that done. He should never vote again. He should never vote. It's inexcusable that you would get. Inexcusable. on national television or with a national outlet and explain that you can't quite remember, but you're 95% sure who you voted for.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Shame on you, Bill Polina, also who you're crapping. Yeah. All of it. Yeah. Because come on, man. Oh, and come on, man. You know, that's the most inexcusable thing. About this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Since, no, no, since there's another one. And this will get you going, I think. If I know you like I know you, because it got me indignant. Okay, go ahead. Terrell Owen's not getting in. Oh, that was dumb. That was because he wasn't a great guy. And he was a pain in the ass.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Like we all watched Terrell Owens. He was a first ballot vote for that man because of the way he played football Hall of Famer. Who are you crappin? You should not have an anonymous vote for a matter such as this. And if you are scared to put your name on it, recuse your vote, pass it on in the next person who can stand by who they vote into the pro football hall of fame. I know who's got more hot takes. We're getting pretty heated here. Danny Parkins.
Starting point is 00:41:00 He's always loaded with hot takes. He'll probably agree with my... Not even a take, just the facts from earlier. Oh, about Caleb Williams? Well, you can bring that up to him if you want. I'll bring it up to him. I think there's many things to talk about with Mr. Danny Parkins, which we will do next here on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on the score.

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