Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - 5 On It & Tim Jenkins can see Ben Johnson's trust in Tyson Bagent (Hour 3)

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

In the third hour, Leila Rahimi and Mark Grote discussed a variety of sports topics in the 5 On It segment. After that, quarterbacks guru and Jenkins Elite founder Tim Jenkins joined the show to break... down Bears backup quarterback Tyson Bagent's performance in Chicago's 23-12 win against the New York Jets on Sunday. It was Bagent's first start in three years. Later, Rahimi and Grote detailed what has White Sox veteran Tommy Pham irked lately.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Who was the MVP of the White Sox come from behind four, three win over the Guardians in game two of the American League Division series? I shall select Sean Burke. They needed some straightening out right from the beginning of that game. Didn't really work out for Anthony Kay. Unfortunately, Sean Newcomb, giving up that RBI chopper and then the bad throw as well. You needed somebody to settle everybody down. And, well, boy, did Sean Burke do it? Five and a third, one run, one hit, retired 13 in a row at one point.
Starting point is 00:00:30 was pulled with two outs in the eighth inning. And so technically it was Grant Taylor who actually gave up that RBI hit that goes on Sean Burke's record. But boy, man, especially relative to his last performance against Houston where he gave up the three home runs to see this man doing what he did. And as Russ Dorsey said, he said it very well, kind of had shades. I don't think quite as perfect as the July version of Sean Burke was because he was striking everybody out and walking nobody then.
Starting point is 00:00:59 But this portends well, not only for now and what the White Sox are trying to do against Cleveland, but there I say, if they get into the American League Championship series, you're going to need people to actually start games. And that gave me a lot of confidence what Sean Burke did yesterday. Yeah, pitching has been the question mark. So that makes perfect sense. I'm going to do the exact opposite. I'm going to give it to Mune,
Starting point is 00:01:20 because it's my excuse to talk about what a good at bat I thought he had in that fourth inning. So Mune gets the White Sox on the board with a three-two count. And there were two men on at first and second. And it was good situational hitting, which is something that is at a premium in this town. That's why one team is still in the playoffs and the other one isn't. So once again, there's Mune, just staying hot whatever way he can. And the single to get the socks on the board that scores Kyle Teal, Miguel Vargas goes to second. They didn't get anything else in the fourth inning.
Starting point is 00:01:54 but that started to kind of chip away and then it led to really good at bats like what we saw out of Braden Montgomery and then Chase Midroth. So in a game where every single at bat mattered, yet again, you're seeing how the White Sox are mixing it up, hitting wise to just do what needs to be done.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And that's how they got to game to. Honorable mention from both of us, if you don't mind, Layla, too Brayden Montgomery too. Seriously. Yeah, that two out hit down the right. And like his big moment, man, biggest moment of that kid's young career.
Starting point is 00:02:25 All part of the Crochet Club. I mean, smoke that ball, too. And I believe that's what flipped the socks win percentage, which makes sense because they took the lead. But when it's a one-run ball game, it's not always that cut and dried. Which is why the Chase Midroth hit deserves double honorable mention. And then Joe Adele stressed us all out. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Oh, my God, that was a well-hit ball. You talk about the triple? Yeah. How about the last? Who had the last? It was a good one. out of the game that was caught by Brenton Doyle in the outfield. Brent and Doyle, I thought it was been a little dramatic jumping for that ball,
Starting point is 00:02:59 but it was struck well against Grant Taylor. Well, and after what happened was Sam Anzanacci in the outfield and Brian Rochio, I was like, hey, none of that, none of that kids. He took a step in the wrong direction. Yeah. You're going the wrong way, Antonacci. Well, they've made up for it. Have some more ice cream, Sam.
Starting point is 00:03:18 He's the lovely day. Yeah. Shout on. Number two. More on the White Sox ice cream at 145. But we continue on. Question number two. Fox Sportswriter, Bucky Brooks, released his weekly ranking of the top 10 teams in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Here's his list. Number 10, the Raiders down one spot from last week. Number nine, a new entry to the top 10, the Cleveland Browns. Number eight, the Ravens, up two spots from last week. Number seven, another new entry to the top 10. Duh, bears. Number six, the Buffalo Bills, down five spots from last week. week. Number five, the Seattle Seahawks up one spot from last week. Number four, the Jacksonville
Starting point is 00:03:56 Jaguars up four spots from last week. Number three, the Vikings. Number two, the Kansas City Chiefs and the top of Bucky Brooks list. Number one, the San Francisco 49ers up three spots from last week. So what do you think of where the Bears landed in the Fox, in Fox Sports Writer Top, 10? And overall, your thoughts on how it stands. I don't hate his list, frankly. I think if you're if you're going to honor three and one teams though and i can't believe i'm saying this then how are the giants not in it i guess but do you take them seriously because i don't either so i get it uh that's my own way of talking to myself but i think the bears deserve to be in it the browns definitely deserve to be in it and they have the same record as the raven so that makes in
Starting point is 00:04:42 shout out to declind doyle and then the jaguars there's there's a lot of uh there's a lot of chatter surrounding their offensive coordinator right now that he might be the next wonder kind if you will like a real one not like me making fun of Ryan from the office so given what's going on with Jacksonville who I was very much interested in what was going to happen to them this season
Starting point is 00:05:03 hope they're going to get enough tension now by the way it makes sense that they're number four tension attention yeah oh that's right I'm doing the wrong thing Liam Cohen I'm giving her team attention and I talk about Caleb Williams
Starting point is 00:05:16 however will we live And we got regression issues here, you know, as Ben Yons said. The Browns being three and one is pretty wild. It is wild. Like, I don't know if I could handle seeing them in the top 10. I don't know if it's true or not. Like, when I say true, I mean, like, are they actually legitimate? But guess what?
Starting point is 00:05:38 We all love Todd Monkin. He's a local guy. His dad is Bob Monkin, no longer with us, but he was the classic head coach at the high school I attended Lake Park High School. So shout out to all the Lake Parkins and the Bob Monkens and the Todd Monkens. So good for them. I root for him. I just, I don't know if I buy it.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I don't know if I buy it with Cleveland. They may be that fast start team that comes back down to Earth eventually. I'm buying Todd Monkins offensive prowess. I am not buying the Deshawn Watson redemption. No. Maybe that's it. Nope, you don't have to acknowledge, like you can acknowledge DeShonne Watson's off the field clear issues and also understand that that's partially why they're in the position
Starting point is 00:06:22 they're in right now. I'm actually happy for the Chiefs. I like seeing the Chiefs back in there at number two. I'm a sucker for Pat Mahomes and winners and things like that. So I'm good there. Okay, Caleb. And things like that. And things like that.
Starting point is 00:06:36 They're four and out. I'm good with San Francisco is the best team right now. I have no dispute with that whatsoever. Let's get the Vikings out of there, though. Let's get the Vikings out of it. of there. They're a funny 4-0. I need to break it to you, but the Vikings are also 4-0. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're a funny
Starting point is 00:06:52 forno, though, aren't they? This is like on the back of the defense, really, is it not? Okay, what did I just say? Because Kevin O'Connell was on ESPN earlier. If I'm Kevin O'Connell, am I just breathing easy knowing that I can work with quarterbacks and I have Brian Flores. He got that dreadful
Starting point is 00:07:08 JJ McCarthy off the roster. Is that what you're saying? I got Justin Jefferson. Oh, yeah. He didn't play though this last. So they won without Yustin, Jefferson and they're right. He didn't play, did he? I don't think he did. You know, you guys know I was on a saved Justin Jefferson redemption tour like get him out of the Vikings, like get him out of the Vikings. Don't keep him in the division. Save him from dysfunctional Vikings. You still have the Jordan Addison problem though. Yeah. He likes to beat up on the Bears and the T.J. Hawkinson
Starting point is 00:07:32 problem and all of that. So let's let's get the Vikings out. And things like that. So you guys speaking of things like that. And Aaron Jones, that guy. He never wants to lead the division ever. The Thickians. Yeah. So the Bears placement in number seven, you guys are both feeling that? You like where they stand? Oh yeah. We didn't even really mention the bears. Yeah, I'm okay. It's sufficient. I'm good with the bears being in the top ten. Like I think the, I think the bears are a top ten team. And if I had to quibble with it, I'm not sure exactly where I would put them in the top ten. So to answer your question, right, thanks for asking, yes, I am good
Starting point is 00:08:02 with them at Saturday. Yeah, it's not like you would have that, well, the Falcons, I don't know. Like that. Falcons. B. John Robinson is a monster. I'm enjoying that. Me too. Good for Atlanta, right? Yes. But at the same time, you know, I think Are you thinking about those compensatory picks Yes, I am thinking about the compensatory picks, but you know what I'm also thinking about?
Starting point is 00:08:25 Not their fault. They confidently extended Jervon Dexter. They sure did. He was looking good yesterday and Monday Night Football. They're coming up in a couple weeks for the bears after the Packers. Yeah, they are. That's true. Yeah, the Bears are at the Packers and at Atlanta, home against New England,
Starting point is 00:08:41 at Seattle, and home against Tampa Bay. Number three. It's 500.1.103, the score with Leila Roheemey and Mark Grody. Here's question number three. Bears running back, DeAndre Swift, had a snap count of 33, which amounted to 35% of the offensive snaps in Sunday's 2312 win over the Jets. Will Swift go over or under that snap count in this Sunday's game against the Packers? Man, I still think he goes over. I think things do go back to normal for D'Andre Swift, even though we heard Ben,
Starting point is 00:09:16 Ben Johnson being kind of all over the board when it came to talking about him, saying that when asked about DeAndre Swift during the Zoom yesterday by Dan Wheatier, he said it was a little bit of a buzzkill because of the fumble that he had. He also credited did Ben Johnson the defense for stopping the bleeding, as he put it. So he talked about the bleeding that DeAndre Swift caused. And then at the end did not necessarily guarantee Swift his complete load of carries back, saying it all depends on practice. But I like the fact that the standard is the standard,
Starting point is 00:09:52 and I love watching a nun guy run the football. But DeAndre Swift is your best running back. There's a reason why he was given the money that he was given. It goes back to normal against Green Bay. What would be the most petty game plan impossible against Green Bay? Would it be to just run the football? Like somehow you don't even want to pass the ball? No, to have two quarterbacks lining up all day long.
Starting point is 00:10:14 That would be the most insult. thing. Some sort of modified wildcat, if you will. Have a fat guy running in. Backpack. Yeah. Backpack. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Backpack. Have a play for backpack. Do like revive the fridge thing. I mean, if he wants to do that because. The mini fridge. I mean, Fridge Perry was born in a lot of ways on a Monday night football game against the Green Bay Packers and George Cumbie. So maybe, and that embarrassed them then, maybe you do that again.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Whatever the most ridiculously trolling game plan is against the Packers, That's what I would do. Kick a Packers defense while it's down. Like, I would just run lead draw every play if it got me four yards because guess what that would do, move the chains first down. So whatever is happening there, I think I might do. But at the same time, I confidently believe that the Bears run game right now can be a bit running back agnostic.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Is DeAndre Swift your best running back? Yes. Is he the best at making same things look different and different things look the same? Yes. But evidently, there's a message Ben Johnson was. trying to send. And I think it has a lot to do with, we don't care that you got extended. If you don't take care of the ball, bad things are going to happen to you as far as the rock. And somebody pointed this out, too, was that his pass blocking was in question, I guess,
Starting point is 00:11:29 this past week, or there were a couple blocks where there might have been a concern. I've seen DeAndre Smith switch willingly block this season when it came to being some of the last line of defense for Caleb Williams, for example. So I don't know that I want to go out that far, but I do know if there's one thing that upsets Ben Johnson. It is no block no rock. So maybe that might have something to do with it as well. I would have to go back and look at the all 22 on the blocking assignments. But the fumble seemed to loom large. That is the overwhelming factor in all of this. What if all of a sudden like at the end of the week, it's like bears activate Savon Ahmed. Dantan, is he, wait.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I think he's on the practice squad, isn't he? How do you feel about him versus what happened to Britton? Did he get put on injured? I don't know that he was saved. I think I think I'd have to look at the practice squad. I think Ahmed is on the practice squad. I don't think my guy, Britton Brown made it the duky. Ahmed is on the practice squad. There it is. There it is. Can you imagine
Starting point is 00:12:26 he's activated? Oh man. Preseason All-Stars? Yeah. And Britain Brown is on injured reserve. Okay, yeah, that's what I thought. I thought Britton was injured. So he was saved by IR. Okay. Somebody wants you to stop with the Yustin Yefferson. I said, Grotty, please stop
Starting point is 00:12:43 with the Yustin Yefferson. But why? You understand. Yeah, I get encouraged to do that. But yeah, the masses like it. I'm here to please the masses. Number four. Through the first four weeks of the season, are you ready to say Bears' defensive end, Dio, Dangbo, indeed looks motivated.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah, I am. That's why they hired him. They paid him because they thought he had more potential. The hurry numbers that he had on quarterbacks when he was with Indianapolis, we're an indication. And I think Dio has been a more disruptive presence at the line of scrimmage. But here's my problem with my thought. Is it that my standard is too low for the Bears pass rush?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Like, is he earning all the money on the contract? I don't know that I can confidently say that yet, but do other things. And that's what he's been doing. Dyer, you're tall. Put your hands up the line of scrimmage, about a pass down or two. And he did. He's like, okay, Lailish your thing. Did they talk about it on the Fox broadcast?
Starting point is 00:13:46 No, but I saw you. I saw you do it. So I would say, yeah, he does look more motivated. And they're having fun with it. Like, that's the best part. This is, this is turned into a joke where people are enjoying it and it's resulting in success. I agree with you. And I love it because right now, Diodangbo leads the bears in sacks.
Starting point is 00:14:05 He leads the bears in pressures. And I talk about it all the time. When he first came here, like with the bears, everybody kind of looked at the sack number. and said, what exactly does Ryan Poles see in this guy? Why are they projecting him as a player? And I literally asked Ryan Poles in the Auditorium Press Conference that day, what are we not seeing here in these sack totals? And he said, you got to watch the film. You got to watch the film. I didn't see that show up last year, but it has shown up this year. Like he is disruptive, and he is now starting to get home. I don't, I don't project him to be a double-digit sack guy.
Starting point is 00:14:40 but if he does affect play on the field as Ryan Poles invited me to look at the film and hearing Patrick Manley saying that he is popping up and flashing and contributing and doing things other than just getting to the quarterback and providing harassment for the quarterback, that's good.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I'm buying in right now. I owe the bang bow. Number five. Five on it on 104 through the score. Here's our final question. Packers coach Lamp Matt LaFleur told reporters in Grie Monday that defensive end, Mike Parsons will not return to practice this week as he continues to rehab from last year's torn ACL.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Parsons said this summer that he thought week six was the quote most optimistic date for him to return. I know it's only Tuesday, but let's check in how you, check in on how you're feeling about this game. On a scale of 1 to 10 on the confidence meter, trademark, where would you rate your level of belief that the bears will beat the Packers on Sunday? 7.2. People don't like it when I get overconfident about things.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So I'm just going to go 7.2. That's it. Bears will win the game, but 7.2 is my confidence meter. I was thinking 7.5. With a backup quarterback, which is kind of bold. It's quite bold. But guess what? The bears are favored by 2.5. According to Patrick Manley, according to Brad Biggs, according to BetMGM, according to Joe Fortinball.
Starting point is 00:15:59 All I was going to say was it's a backup quarterback powered by Ben Johnson. Exactly. Exactly. So I think you need Micah Parsons. Green Bay. And if you don't have him, advantage bears, or as Jerry Jones
Starting point is 00:16:12 would call him, Michael. I just looked it up here, too, and it says, Green Bay sucks. Oh. That's another reason why we should be
Starting point is 00:16:23 confident. It's a fact. Yeah. Green Bay sucks. Green Bay sucks. I do want to go to Door County. I've enjoyed my time in Milwaukee. I've enjoyed my time at Lake Geneva.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Are you ready for Kenosha Friday? Yeah. I've definitely enjoyed the broadstop. But Green Bay sucks. Green Bay sucks. Green Bay sucks. Oh yeah, that's it. So we are done with five on it. Coming up next. It's an all 22 type of day. Tim Jenkins, founder and CEO of Jenkins Elite breaks down Tyson, Bejant and the
Starting point is 00:16:55 quarterbacks and the Bears game plan and all the stuff that Tim does. He is next with Rahimi and Grotie on 104.3, the score. We love jumping into the film with Tim Jenkins as we welcome you back to Rahimi and Grotie on 104.3, the score. Tim is joining us on our video stream to watch search the score Chicago on Twitch and on YouTube. The Bears beat the Jets 23 to 12 Tyson Bayesian 25 of 34-268 0 TDs and a pick.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Tim, how are you? Welcome back to the score. I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Sorry, I have myself on mute. That's how dumb I am. No, I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I'm happy to be here with you guys.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It happens to the best of us. We have one of those per show, generally speaking. So it's the world in which we live. Tim, what did you think about Tyson-Bage and back-to-back weeks where Ben Johnson puts a game plan together to allow a backup quarterback to thrive and win for the Bears? Yeah, I think let's start there if you're okay with that because to me, I think both these guys, Case and Tyson have done a great job. With that being said, I can't, I don't know if I can like overstate how impressive it is. that we've been able to put two game plans together where, again, you can see how 18 could have made it better,
Starting point is 00:18:17 but really how these are, we're still running our offense. We're still running everything that we would run with Caleb in there. However, we've adjusted it or we've blocked it up a little different to where we're going to protect it a little bit better because we don't have that same level of mobility. And we're just, I mean, we're just beating teams up.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I really, it was, it was so funny how many offensive plays they ran because you guys know, right? You know, Monday mornings are big, right? In the NFL, you got to get up early and make sure you get these tape breakdowns done. And I'm like, holy smokes, I got 88 plays to watch, right? Like, that's a college amount of snaps, you know, and we're just dominating in the run game and the past game. But I do think Tyson was unbelievable. I thought he played a really clean game. Even the interception, you look at it and you go, shoot, man, that's a great read.
Starting point is 00:19:04 We're just a little bit behind him, right? if we're in front of it, it's a, you know, that's a, that's another huge play on a deep over. Instead, we're a little bit behind and they've got a heck of a DB that makes a play on it. So to me, I think it was really, really impressive. The run, I thought the run designs were awesome. But simultaneously, just the past game, I thought Tyson executed really well. And it was, it's just, it's hilarious to me that Ben's basically been like, hey, I know what you guys all thought you saw with case and what the national media is saying. but I'm going to go ahead and do what I want to do,
Starting point is 00:19:37 and Tyson's going to be the starter, and we're going to still roll. Well, and Tim, what did you think about the differences in the game plan that we saw for Case Keenum, where Ben Johnson's creativity was also on display compared to what we saw for Tyson Baygent? So what's interesting is that, and this is like just a great question to pose to them almost,
Starting point is 00:19:56 is it felt like two different game plans from the sense of with Case, it was, hey, let's get the ball to your hand a little bit quicker. You know, we still had some overrout, some deep overs, but there was a lot of perimeter screen, a lot of just case putting his back foot in the ground delivering. And then this week, it felt a lot more like, let's push the ball down the field. And I don't know if that's just the general game plans for the two teams, right? If they thought, hey, you know, against Philadelphia, here's what we want to do, against New York, here's what we want to do, or if it was to the guy's skill sets, what I will say that
Starting point is 00:20:28 I was really impressed with was the amount of play action, run action type. I don't want to call them full-blown shot plays, but that, you know, we would call it a downfield, right? It's not quick game. It's not a shot, but those downfield throws, those, you know, eight to 20 yard kind of those dig routes, those bang eights, those deep overs where all of a sudden you were like, holy smokes, we're pushing the ball down the field. I just thought it was impressive. And I do think it was more indicative of who Tyson is as a quarterback versus that limited time we saw when he came in with those bad elements the week Caleb got hurt. I do think this. was way more indicative of the kind of quarterback he can be.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I want to ask you about a couple of specific throws in the game. One of them that I thought was maybe one of the most important throws was in the fourth quarter. Bears are leading 23 to 12. They had just scored that 58-yard touchdown, 5.30 to go in the game. A third and five pass to Colston Loveland for 18 yards to kind of, I think at that point probably clinch the win. What did you think about that throw? And then the throw to Roma Dunesay at the end of the second quarter 37-yard pass
Starting point is 00:21:38 that ultimately sets up a field goal. Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, both of them awesome. The Loveland one, the Loveland one to me, when you think about like ripping into Colson, to me it's like a heck of a throw by Tyson, but just like the amount of mismatch that 84 dictates on the field, I do think. And it's not only having 84, right? It's like it's almost like when you watch, you know, when the chiefs were really rolling and not that they're not. But when the chiefs were really rolling, it's like Travis Kelsey is a good player and he's a good player no matter where he goes.
Starting point is 00:22:09 But he's made great by Andy Reid. And you look at Colson Loveland, he's kind of come from the same cloth where it's, you have this tied in who is obviously highly skilled. However, pairing him with a dynamic coordinator is only going to make it better. And then the roam throw, I mean, it's just another one of those in cuts where you go, holy smokes. Like we were just ripping those big digs, those, you know, we call it, we call them like a mag route where, you know, if you think about it, a dig, right? You know, for everybody listening and not seeing, you know, you're running up 20 yards and you're just running flat, right? We all ran like an in route when we were, you know, playing backyard football or in Little League where you go up and you run flat. These routes that the bears are running are more like a mag, which is, hey, you're not necessarily perfectly flat, but you're also not on that old school post.
Starting point is 00:22:55 you're kind of feeling, right, a speed cut, you're going to feel where the defense is and kind of trying to bend into that void, which is actually way harder, I think, as a quarterback, because you really have to assess, hey, their angle coming out of it. And he was doing a great job, whether it be Rome or whether it be Lutherbert. I mean, I thought we were ripping it to just about everybody. And then the one that I thought was my favorite play of the day was the little middle, the little screen they threw to 87, right? Because they dialed it up with, all this hard run action. They made it look like they were taking another one of those shots.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And then they dump it off on like a Y middle screen. I'm getting absolutely killed in my YouTube comments because I commented that the Jets actually two guys run into each other. And then there's just a guy that just laying there on the field, you know. And I said, hey, this dead body is really killing us because that's where the play should have hit. Instead, we have to cut outside and it turns into a nine yard gain. But man, if the Jets actually don't hit each other, that might have been a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:23:54 It was so well designed. Instead, it turns out the best defense for some of these bears plays is just laying down on the field in a spot that they're supposed to be going, you know? So, yeah, it was just an overall impressive day, but both of those throws I thought were big time. The one that I also was really blown away with was that one that they were backed up. You know, they're backed up. They're on, I want to say, their own four or five yard line. And Ben dials up a play action, run action shot where he rips a big one.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I want to say it was to roam on like a speed out. But you sit there and you go, man, how much confidence do you have in a backup quarterback where we're calling a play in which his back foot is going to hit five yards into our own end zone? Like think of the level of trust that takes where we're willingly dropping him well into the end zone because we trust that he's either going to get the ball of his hand and avoid the sack or he's going to do exactly what he did, which is, you know, deliver a 15-yard bench route that gets us out of backed up territory. for you. I thought that was maybe the one that you could point to and say, man, Ben has a ton of trust in this kid. With a third string left tackle, no less. And I think that's the one, Tim, where on the game
Starting point is 00:25:05 broadcast, Drew Brees said he loved that play call and called it a short porch when he was talking about working from that deep in your own territory and then still being able to make something happen. Yeah, I just think, to me, I'm like, it's one of those where, and you're dead on. I didn't even think about that. We got our third string left tackle. We go run action. and then all of a sudden, you know, you're five yards away from our loss game this thing, right? And we're in big trouble. So to me, it's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I was really impressed. I thought that was a great call. To me, that really signified like, okay, hey, this isn't just another, you know, backup quarterback we're trying to protect. This is legitimately we're calling stuff with full trust. To me, that's one that you know he would call with Caleb in there, right? So then knowing that that's coming in this week, I mean, I think gives us a lot of confidence.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And then, you know, I think, you know, depending on what Twitter, you know, rabbit hole I go on, it seems like, you know, maybe 18's available this week, maybe not. But I do think if he's not and we're rolling with Tyson going into Green Bay, I still think that's a winnable game for us. What's he got to be better at, Tyson Bayton? When he watched the tape, you're like, ooh, I don't know about that through. Gosh, that's such a good question.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And it's so funny because if I was going to comment on any of the other quarterbacks I watched this week, I'd, like, have something immediately. He did throw the interception. He had a couple near balls that were intercepted, but penalties brought them back. So, I mean, those are a couple of potential. If I had to reach, I mean, I don't want to say reach. If I had to, like, if I was digging deep on anything,
Starting point is 00:26:35 like if I was sitting in that quarterback room today, we would be talking a lot about just, to me, the interceptions weren't full conviction throws. Like, they felt a little bit like, oh, I think I have this. And all I would be sitting there telling him is like, dude, if we're going to drive a deep over in the NFL, just drive the thing, right? I'd rather see you rip this thing and be a little bit too far in front than throw it with not enough conviction to where guys undercut it.
Starting point is 00:27:01 So that would be what I would maybe, I don't want to say nitpick, that would be what we would be addressing. But simultaneously, you know, a lot of it's physical, right? Hey, we were a little bit behind with this throw or this or this or this, which is just to me so exciting because, you know, a lot of quarterbacks, we're still like, oh, hey, we need you to get to this route. And it's like we threw our backup quarterback in there. And holy smokes, from a progression standpoint, I felt like we are pretty,
Starting point is 00:27:27 I don't want to say perfect because I'm sure there's two or three that I'm missing. But we are pretty dang good, which to me, I've always felt like is easier. It's easy to clean up the physical stuff. These guys are in the NFL for a reason. The mental piece is the one that you usually have a huge drop off from your starter. And I just, again, I think it's just kudos the way they're coaching these guys up and the way this system as a whole is designed. What do you think of Luther Burton in the run game?
Starting point is 00:27:53 We saw that wrinkle get installed a little bit this past Sunday. Yeah, I think you got to love it. I think anytime you can get the ball to a playmaker like that, I love it. And I think it's so much easier to script run game touches than it is past. I think running screen game touches are great, especially when you look at, okay, hey, we want to get the ball to 10. We want to make sure he gets X amount of touches in a game. But I'm going to be honest with you right now.
Starting point is 00:28:17 When I was breaking down some of those run plays, I'm sitting there thinking of myself, I could have ran some of these. The amount of movement that we were getting on the right side of the line is so impressive. And here's the other thing, the amount of buy-in that we have from our skill guys. That's what I think is missing in a lot of these NFL locker rooms is, you know, hey, our interior five or, you know, hey, this tight-in or that tight-in will also block. You've got 84 in there. You've got 10 trying to work in there and clean people up.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Like 85. Like all these guys are willing participants in the run game, which is so important when you think about generating explosive runs versus just a quality run. And then I thought our backs at a heck of a job sticking their foot in the ground and getting vertical in some of these zone schemes. But I mean, the amount of movement we had, I want to say, I want to tell you that we had a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It was out the six yard line. I want to say it was Monongai. And it was like, I don't think he got hit until the one. Like, that's insane in the national. Football League to be at the six-yard line and our running back not get hit until the one-yard line. Like normally, you guys know, those are where we're trying to scheme something up to like pop an easy one because it's so hard to move people. And we had two thick double teams that move those dudes, you know, back into the end zone. And I just think that's, that's incredible stuff when you
Starting point is 00:29:34 really start diving into it. Pretty amazing. Tim, thanks for watching all 89 plays for us. We appreciate. Could you rank them for us real quick before we let you go all 89 or just send us. the transcript if you could. Yeah, I will. I'll get you the Excel sheet that I was working on, which I got to be honest. I know AI is, you know, going to, I think, take everybody over or whatever it is, but shoot, man, it's been real helpful for me actually building the spreadsheet because I'm just a dumb football coach. So I plug it in a chat and I go, hey, organize this for me. And it does a good job. But no, it's, it was fun. It's another great week. I also think it's great that we're coming on
Starting point is 00:30:09 and we're talking about backup quarterbacks and how effective they are because we had a long time coming on here and being like, hey, do we have any quarterbacks in Chicago? So I think I'm happy that we're through that phase for now. Tim, that's been my whole life. So trust me, for some of us, this is like really amazing what's happening and quite frankly, a little bit overwhelming. Tim, we'll talk to you next week. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Thanks, guys. Thanks, Tim. Tim Jenkins, founder and CEO of Jenkins Elite. And you can watch Tim's full Caleb Williams. Oh, not Caleb Williams. That would be a Tyson, Bayesian, breakdown on video, breakdown video on his YouTube channel at all things QB.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Coming up next on the show, did White Sox designated hitter Tommy Pham have every reason to believe he hit a home run in game one of the ALDS? Let's explore that next on Rahimi and Grotie on 1043, the score. Rahimi and Grody. Hey, pay attention.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Midday, 10 a.m. to 2 on the score. Tommy Pham. only appeared in a handful of games during the regular season for the White Sox, but he drills this one to left field. It is caught up against the wall by Martinez. An opportunity for a double play. Throwed a first in plenty of time. Miguel Vargas thought that ball was either gone or off the wall.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Anheil Martinez came up with a catch. Highlight courtesy of TBS. That's from Game 1 of the American League Division series where the White Sox eventually beat the Guardians three to nothing. That long ball or near long ball occurred in the sixth inning. Tommy Fam robbed of what would have been a three-run homer
Starting point is 00:31:55 and it turned out to be kind of disastrous because it was a double play. Maybe because Tommy Fam went into a home run trot and maybe Miguel Fargus was fooled by seeing him do that and that he was doubled off as you just heard from the highlight. And then we get this story in the Sun-Times from Jeff Agress says White Sox Tommy Fam confronts MLB commissioner Rob Manfred about the baseballs. Quote, I can't be hitting no doubters, man, and not helping them getting out,
Starting point is 00:32:25 fam said, probably half joking and half serious. How am I supposed to get a job next year if that ball don't go out? Close quote from Tommy Fam thinking the balls may have been Layla deflated? Well, I do think that Major League Baseball uses different batches of balls. And this is something that I touched on in transition with our morning show with Hawn Payton because we saw a stretch of games this past year where it overrode even the warmer, more humid weather that'll carry a ball. You know, the 17 runs scored by the Cardinals against the Cubs. And the Brewers, a couple days later, scoring 22 runs themselves.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And then the Cubs had a 20 burger. And there was a stretch where even the people who studied the balls, famously Dr. Meredith Wills, who's an astrophysicist, suspected something was going on. Fam in a breakdown, thanks to John Boy, was caught on camera lip syncing, well, not lip syncing. They were lip-rating his reaction because based on the exit velocity
Starting point is 00:33:27 and based on where that ball traveled, yeah, it usually would go out. Let's take a listen. Tommy Fam just hit this ball and it should have been a two-run, home run, up and over the wall. Instead, it falls short. It's caught.
Starting point is 00:33:41 instead of adding two runs to their lead, the White Sox get out twice. He doubles them off first base. The pitchers fire. Ooh! Pitchers fired up. Tommy Fam is perplexed. He's like, what? Huh?
Starting point is 00:33:56 106? Uh, pole side? And he's not wrong to be that confused because every single ball in the 2026 season that was hit with an exit velocity of 106 miles per. hour and a launch angle of 31 degrees. The exact ball Tommy Fam just hit to the pole side was a home run and was a home run easily. So I guess it's just F you weather in Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Now, everything I think in this is tongue and cheek. And even in Agra's headline, it said, quote, confronts, in quotes. That's the whole point. It wasn't really some sort of heated confrontation. Well, we all know tone gets lost on social media. and 17 hours ago, Tommy Fam replied to talking baseball, which is part of John Boy in that post that we mentioned, and said for Jeff Agrest and he adds him to report this like I wasn't joking and smiling about it,
Starting point is 00:34:53 which their video, which there may be video to confirm, just shows the clickbait reporter, you Jeff Agrest are a real loser for clicks, and you won't be allowed around my team. I'll make sure no one will take a report from you. His team, the one that he just got on, Fam's got that kind of power, huh? But here's the thing is, is he, I did, I think everybody took it as a joke, knowing Tommy Fam's situation, but then also understanding he had a point.
Starting point is 00:35:25 You really believe that the, the juice is loose from the baseballs at this one? Here's my question. I think the ball don't lie. When the math indicates that you hit a ball 106, rate times time equals distance, that's what this is. Why do you think, why would baseball do that? now though for the postseason. This is their showcase. This is everything for Major League Baseball. Why wouldn't they want the balls
Starting point is 00:35:46 to be a little bit more juiced in home runs because that's what people like. People still like offense and scoring. It doesn't make sense to me why the balls would be deflated or whatever the word is you want to use. That doesn't make sense to me. That's been the whole question is what motivates them at what points would they want to change
Starting point is 00:36:03 the ball. Colder weather. Why would you do it now? They won't talk about it. So that's part of it. I don't think he's wrong in asking the question because they control the ball production now. And there are other people who have spent a lot of time studying this. They get people to send them the ball. They cut it open.
Starting point is 00:36:18 They see what the weight is, how tightly it's wound. And this all affects, it does affect people's money. But I don't think, Tommy Fam has ever read to be upset or wasn't a home run. You don't let one last beat you twice, as it did in that play where the double off happens and you're in a double play. Yeah, Burgess. But the other part of this is he also may have a point there just based on math alone. But I don't think anybody was taking him out of context.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah. No, it's just odd to me that if that you're right. Like the math is the math. Why baseball would choose now to not have the baseball's juiced is a little bit odd to me. I mean, did I think it was ridiculous that an elevator pitched work to have him, you know, in a crucial September series against your division rival who ultimately ended up winning the division, convince the GM to take you off of the injured list and back cleanup? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:13 But did you hit a home run? He did. Was it also your first hit of the season? Yes. I was very surprised when we did not hear from you on the text thread when Tommy Fam came up in the sixth inning before Brayden Montgomery and hit a shallow pop-up to left field with men on base. You controlled yourself.
Starting point is 00:37:32 You kept yourself, you kept it all in perspective in that moment. It was also a Saturday game where we just kind of got to watch. the game. Like we're not talking about it the next day. I'm talking about yesterday's game. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because he came up. He popped. I'm sorry. I was thinking about the original. I got you. I'm confusing you. But it was yesterday's game before Braid Montgomery. He was the second out of the inning. I was like, oh, here, three, two, one, Leila, and it never came. You know, left me a little empty to be honest with you. So I kind of felt like I was playing with a bit of
Starting point is 00:38:01 house money yesterday. Okay. They'd already gotten the win in Cleveland. They were down 02. You're facing a guy who, like we said, had the most strikeouts in the American League in the regular season. Gavin Williams struck out 11 yesterday in the White Sox who won the game. Yeah. That probably does not happen often. But, I mean, I'll give math credit where it's due.
Starting point is 00:38:22 He, the math, don't lie on that. Heard, coming up next, we are going to bring in a bear. Defensive tackle, Neville Gallimore joins Rahimi and Grody next on 1043, the score. Shout out backpack with the fat back.

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