Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - 5 On It: Would you be on board with Bears trading a 1st-round pick, DJ Moore for Maxx Crosby?

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

Leila Rahimi and Mark Grote discussed a variety of sports topics in the 5 On It segment. ...

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Starting point is 00:01:32 It's time for five on it. Rahini Harrison Rooney. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104-3. Number one. All right, we got one for all the Maxenistas out there. On Monday, ESPN proposed a blockbuster trade between the Bears and the Raiders. In this scenario, Chicago would send receiver DJ more in a 2026 first round pick to Las Vegas for pass, Rusher, Max, Crosby, and a 20.
Starting point is 00:02:02 27 fifth round pick. Would you be on board with this move? Okay, so number one, I would like to say things to everybody who watched Chicago Sports Tonight on Sunday. It was Chris Bleck, who's now our coworker, and it's still weird for us to say. We all freak out on the Odyssey Sports minutes because we're like, wait a second, Chris Black doesn't work with us. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 00:02:24 He's at Westwood One. He was at another place for a long time. Shout out to Chris Boy. Yeah, and everybody's always like, no, I don't listen to you guys. thousand. We got the numbers. We know. And we stole Chris Black and Adam Abdallah. So go us.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And there was a fight about the Max Crosby discussion. And the question was, would it take more than two first round picks? And then people got passionate in the comments, as I saw. Because I like to read because sometimes there's something you miss, you know, and people talk about stuff. And that's how you try to fill in the gaps. People have questions that I don't always have. So they were like, Lila was saying three draft picks.
Starting point is 00:03:01 No, I wasn't. necessarily. It's something along the lines of what Bill Barnwell discussed. There are position players of value to the Raiders. DJ Moore could be one of them. Other bears, you know, and they have a rich, vast wealth at certain positions, like, I don't know, tight end. I'm just saying there are other positions where the bears have a plethora of people. And so it might not be just draft picks. Might not be just first round. might be a combination of assets. That's what I was kind of getting at here.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I don't think it's a one-for-one. This was the Micah Parsons deal, so therefore it would be Max Crosby. So I just want to get that out there. Thanks to everybody who is so passionate about it, but unless I say three draft picks, that's not necessarily what I mean. It sounds like it could work.
Starting point is 00:03:56 But at the end of the day, DJ Moore is also making $28.5 million. Now, DJ Moore has years. years on his contract and we like to say in the biz, the more years you have, the more you can restructure. But I just don't know if the Raiders want that salary in addition
Starting point is 00:04:11 to something else for a return for Crosby. Would it solve a lot of people's problems? Yes. I think Bill Barnwell is saying it for a reason, though. And that's why I give it some credence, because this is not the first time he's brought this up. So who's he talking to?
Starting point is 00:04:29 You know I love DJ more, personally and professionally and all that kind of stuff. That's right. That's right. But to answer the question, yes, I would be on board with this move for sure. And because it just, like when you go back and you compare some of those trades, and I know you referenced them, like I'll just go back to even the Kalil-Mac trade. Would you say Kalil-Mack at that point and Max Crosby at this point? Pretty comparable, right, in terms of what the,
Starting point is 00:05:01 Being at the peak of their powers and the disruption they could cause. When you say that's pretty good comp in terms of being at the peak of their powers. Yeah, and I think Vegas still probably considers, like, they gave them away for two first rounders where the team made the playoffs in the first year. You know, that's the other part of that. Yeah, two first round picks, a third round pick, and a sixth round pick, and six years in $141 million, eventually for Khalil Mack. Micah Parsons.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Everything, and it looked good, and it felt good, and we can debate on whether or not it was worth. it. Come back, Leal. Come back. Selina. Come back. He wasn't done. He wasn't done. You weren't done. They're done with me, apparently. No, no, no, no. The Butte was done. Hey, he had it. This is a different show. This is Bohemian Grody.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Featuring Chris Ranji saying the words I couldn't say in our last segment. Miss a little, miss a lot. Finish your thought. You're dead, Jack. Finish your thought. Michael Parsons, two first round picks. Kenny Clark, four years, $188 billion. This is a good deal. I don't know why anybody would say no to this deal. It's a good deal. We're all giving the disclaimer. We love DJ Moore, and they may be bereft of a top receiver without DJ Moore unless Luther Burton takes that next step and Roma Dunzee gets better. So I'm not just frivolously letting DJ Moore go, but yes, hell yes, I would do that trade. DJ Moore is still your WR1. He really is. He really is. And I know there was a quiet period last year where he wasn't even getting targeted. And we had a famous interaction DJ and I did. And then what? Yeah, there was a lot of what going on in that conference. conversation, but he still made the biggest catches of the year.
Starting point is 00:06:34 You wouldn't, you would not have gotten as far as you got without DJ Moore last year, period. Number two. NFL.com ranked all of the starting quarterbacks during the 2025 season and Bears quarterback Caleb Williams landed among the top 10 at number eight, which is a huge jump from his number 28 standing after the 2024 season. Here's how the top 10 stacked up. Number 10, Joe Burrow, number nine. Jared Goff. There's number eight.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Caleb Williams. Number seven, Sam Donald. Number six, Trevor Lawrence. Number five, Justin Herbert. Number four, Drake May. Drake. Number three, Dak Prescott. Number two, Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And number one, Matthew Stafford, your MVP. Do you agree with where Caleb Williams landed in NFL.com's quarterback rankings? Okay, this is a curious list. Is it not? Like, number one, Dak Prescott at number three? Yeah. Yeah, Stafford is it number one? I actually agree with that.
Starting point is 00:07:30 sorry. Prescott stood out to me too. And I get that. There was a discussion to be made at an earlier point in the season that he could have been the MVP. But to have Drake made it at number four, is that just because of a sparkling
Starting point is 00:07:44 completion percentage of the regular season he had? And now couldn't you flip-flop Drake May and Sam Darnold? At least put Darnold at number five because he slayed the dragon of Can he win in the post season? Listen, I don't think they won the Super Bowl because of Sam Darnold.
Starting point is 00:08:02 But most importantly, they didn't lose it either. And you could argue that part of the reason the Patriots lost was because of the play of Drake. I know Drake was injured. I know. But the point is that's where this kind of gets open for discussion. Caleb Williams deserves to be in the top 10. There's no doubt about that.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I don't know, Groats. I think he might be a number seven, you know? Maybe. But then, like, I look at the two guys that are behind Caleb Williams, Jared Goff is nine. Joe Burrow is 10. You talk about neck and neck and neck and neck. Like you could have put Caleb Williams at 9 or 10.
Starting point is 00:08:38 You could have put a mix of any of those three guys to me between 8, 9 and 10. As in, I could have seen Caleb at 10 and Burrow at 9. You know who's not on this list? Patrick Mahomes. For one year and one year only, ladies and gentlemen. Right at ACL Patrick Mahomes. Is that why? Everybody gets away.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Hey, Tom Brady missed a list. because of injury at one point in time in his career. That's what makes this so hard. Yeah, that we can make our own list. Actually, that'd be fun to do, like projecting, projecting, note for the show, projecting the top 10 quarterbacks in the 20, 26, 2027 season. Yeah, we could write that down. Right that down.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Robbie, where's Robbie? Robbie, write that. I think he's in New York. Sometimes he hops on on Twitch, though. I could never tell by his Instagram post, Robbie Triano. I'm in New York. Can you believe this? I'm in New York.
Starting point is 00:09:30 He's so happy. He really is. His story, he's always like listening on some sort of, like, he's always at a DJ show. And he's like, I'm so happy to be here. I live here. Look at all these big buildings. I'm in New York. It'll wear off.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Danny, his dad. I mean. So, okay, so you can't really peg one through ten either, can you? I can't. I'm with you, though. I'm like, yeah, hell yeah, Matthew Stafford. A hundred percent. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Lock it in. It wasn't even a question for me who was MVP. Honestly, I'm good with Drake May too. I'm not just going to look at Drake May and say because of the play. I mean, he did get to the Super Bowl and he was awesome during the regular season. So I think he deserves a top five spot. Justin Herbert's always interesting too because he's great. He's got this beautiful arm.
Starting point is 00:10:16 But does he win? Does he come through in the big spots? I don't know if I'm comfortable with him as a top five guy. It's Toyota Truck Month. Time to get a truck that works as hard as you do. Tacoma. Tundra. Built for the work site, ready for the trail, and packed with tech that makes every drive smarter. Available with 360-degree panoramic cameras for perfect visibility in tight spots.
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Starting point is 00:11:23 Hi, I'm PJ Vote, and I want to tell you about my podcast. podcast search engine. We try to make sense of the world, one question at a time. No question too big, no question too small. We will even answer your questions if you send them in. Stuff like, what happens when a cemetery goes out of business? What should we do about teens using AI to do their homework? Who buys luggage at the airport luggage store? Follow and listen to search engine in partnership with Odyssey, wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of criticism now that Sam Darnold's, that Sam Darnold slated dragon that didn't entirely exist about who's reliable and who's winning in the playoffs and all that. The chargers remain bizarrely inconsistent. But you know Justin Herbert's got
Starting point is 00:12:07 to throw for 4,000. So that's what makes this tricky. Number three. This is five on it on it on 104. The score with Laila Rahimi and Mark Grody. Here's question number three. On Monday, Cubs manager, Craig Counsel said this about say at Suzuki's role this season. He d-hs the vast majority of the year. year. The second half, we saw them in the outfield quite a bit more. And last year, say a D-Hing last year was a function of the roster, just a function of acquiring Tucker. That's just how the roster fits together.
Starting point is 00:12:46 This year it's going to look differently. We're going to see him in right field a lot. And looking forward to it. I think say is always, you know, say is that. He's just some, not, he's just had some dropped balls, frankly. Like, that's what's happened. The rest of the stuff's been, been solid. It's Craig Counsel talking about Seya Suzuki's role this season.
Starting point is 00:13:07 On a scale of 1 to 10 on the confidence meter, trademark, where do you rate your level of belief in Suzuki's defensive ability in right field? Seven. That's being generous. Wow. So you have a lot of confidence in him. I have more than 50%. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:26 But I do know that the Cubs have lost some games because of SEA and Rightfield. Now, granted, they've lost some games because of other people in Rightfield. And I get that. But I think Sayas' right field play improved enough last season to where I'm not as concerned about it. What makes me more raise an eyebrow at this point is, once again, you are having to manage, I think, the, uh, the nuance. of your team. Is Say Suzuki in right field because you know he's a more effective
Starting point is 00:14:01 hitter when he plays in right field? So then you've got to manage that risk reward. Then there's the risk reward of, well, how is Matt Shaw going to develop offensively if he doesn't get regular reps? Combine that with what do we know about Moises by Astero's? And that's
Starting point is 00:14:17 where this gets tricky. It's almost like when we were talking about the playoffs last year and trying to figure out who was starting or if they were opening and how that was going to go in the jigsaw puzzle. I feel like we're still doing that a bit with the position players on the Cubs. Are we not? We are because I'm trying to figure out where Matt Shaw fits in exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I mean, this is one of those times where we could all ask Craig Counsel all of these questions about all of these players, including somebody like Daniel Palencia, who was named as the closer. I can't wait to see what it actually looks like once they get going. I would give the number six, I would say, in terms of, I'm a little bit more concerned. Oh, no, wait. The higher the number, the more concerned, right? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Confidence. So you're correct. If you're more concerned, that means the number should be lower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I am more concerned. So I am at a six right there. You can overcome, say, a Suzuki. I mean, we have to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:15:15 It's like, he'll be fine for a while out there. And then just inexplicably, it seems like, either just badly misjudge a ball. And usually when it's a bad, It's initially there's an excuse given. Like what happened there? Was it the sun? Did the wind push it?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Was it the lights? And then it's like, no. Against the Braves a couple years ago, that was outright misfield. Yeah. There was no excuse. That was just misplaying of a ball. I was just going to say what it usually comes down to is Sayas Suzuki making the mistakes out there. He's not a joke out there.
Starting point is 00:15:46 He's not a clown in right field. He's not bad, but he's a little bit of a concern. So, yeah, I put it at a six. for him, but the bat is undeniable. Number four. Have the Cubs done enough to improve their starting rotation? Okay, so here's the thing. Why am I reading on Friday that Zach Allen
Starting point is 00:16:09 not only didn't sign with the Cubs, but is making less than Shona Imanaga for that one season. And it's not a ton less. But I think $900,000 is a lot of money. Maybe I'm wrong. But that's kind of where I sit with this. I'm like, wait a second. What was all this one and a million talk?
Starting point is 00:16:30 What was all this Zach Gallen is going to be here? There's a six-man rotation and a sunshine and lollipop. Wasn't it with Bruce that I asked the question? By the time it's all said and done, the same question I asked Dempster, and he said, Kate Orton, by the time it's all said and done, who's going to be the ace pitcher? And I thought maybe Justin Steele. And he's like, no, Zach Gallen. And Bruce has sources.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But what Bruce doesn't have is control of the market. Correct. And Bruce, we trust. So if Zach Allen says, I want to go back to Arizona and bet on myself for a measly $22 million, then he's going to do that. And I understand loyalty. And, and you know, we all have it to a fault. But on its face, I'm like, wait a second here.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Zach Allen's getting paid less than Charity Menagena. I don't like it. I don't like it. So you would say the Cubs have not done enough to improve their starting rotation? I don't even know if the answer is yesterday. know. I just really wanted to use this time to complain about this issue. Penalize her for not answering the question, guys.
Starting point is 00:17:32 No, because it really comes down to that for me. But do I have a defined feeling about it yet? I don't know. So you're leaning towards, man, they could have added that arm and it would have been better. You're stuck on Zach Allen. Okay. I am and you know what else? I feel like I discovered him a long time ago before anybody else did.
Starting point is 00:17:48 There was this random game where Father Sackowitz was being on her from the Cathedral at the Sox game. and it was Sox and Marlins, and it was in like 2019 or something in like July. And I'm like, dang, who was this picture for the Marlins? He's just like mowing down capable and decently good socks hitters. It was Zach Gallen. How you doing, Zach?
Starting point is 00:18:08 I'll tell you what's talking about. Nobody was talking about Zach Allen at that time. And then I was always like, oh, that guy's really good. And then you remember he had traded for Jazz Chisholm and it was like a one for one. I was like, what a compelling trade, a one for one, like a true one for one. Very interesting. in two positions of note, you know, and then he rose to success. And then I was like, oh, maybe he'll come here and pitch.
Starting point is 00:18:30 No. So it's personal, in other words. So now we're really getting to the bottom of this. I discovered Zach Allen, not the Merlin's front office. I discovered that he looked like Kyle Mooney, though. Can I, can I see you and raise you he looks like Kyle Mooney? To answer the question, I will say, I will dare step out, Leila, and say, yes, They are better because guess what?
Starting point is 00:18:54 I cannot wait to see Kate Horton for an entire year with the Chicago Cubs. Now that he is healthy. It was painful that he was not available. I'm not jinksing Kate Horton. I can't wait to see his whole. I didn't say I can't wait to see him be a Cy Young Award winner. I didn't say I didn't make any bold predictions. Now I said it.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Now it's out there. But absolutely with Justin Steele presumably coming back at some point in time in the season. with Edward Cabrera. What are you going to get out of him? You know, and Matthew Boyd. Matthew Boyd was in the conversation for Cy Young last year. So I guess I'm downright giddy about the Cubs starting pitching right now. Josh Giddy?
Starting point is 00:19:35 I am downright Josh Giddy. Speaking of Robbie Triano. It all comes back to Giddy. That's right. Number five. Five on it on 104. The score with Laila Rahini. She was off on President's Day.
Starting point is 00:19:47 And Mark Grotie, he was off on President's Day. I'm executive producer Ray Diaz. I worked on President's Day. Our associate producer, Tyler Buterball, he worked on President's Day. Tyler, do you regret not taking the day off? I mean, at first, no, but then I saw how nice it was. It's a beautiful. This is really a question designed for Layla to laugh at us.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And our go-to place, Central Park Bar, I'm pretty sure they opened up the patio area. So I did kind of think of, it would have been nice. Would have been nice, man. On the patio area during the day. I decided to take a little walk, and I listened to 1043, the score on the Odyssey app. On my walk. And you know what I was watching? Not only were the people all in a good mood, so were the animals.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Like the ducks were just having a love of a little time at the lake all like quacking to each other, like trying to find some food. Geese were out. Geese were having a good time yesterday. The geese were so happy that I swear they were performing for people at the park. Everybody was getting treats. The dogs were out there sunning themselves when the animals are in a good mood. that's how you know it was a banner day to take off work.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah, you know, we don't think about the animal portion of that enough because we're all outside. We're all wearing short sleeves. Some people are doing the hoodie in short. What about the animals? The animals are back. That's such a nice touch right there. Well, yesterday I did take the day.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I slept in a little bit. Went out to Orland Park. I was out in the south suburbs yesterday. So I was in a car way too long yesterday. Yeah, but I did get to go to, Costco with my buddy Dan Levy the Cat, which he has a family. It's, I realized yesterday. Oh, a cat family.
Starting point is 00:21:27 For, yeah, Dan Levy the Cat. I realized. Dan is a human. Dave is the cat. Oh, yeah, yeah. I realized that as a single guy, Costco's not necessarily the place for me. I was like, what do I use every day that I need in bulk? It turned out, I got caught. I did get coffee because I drink it every, and there's a specific brand that I drink every day.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Pike's Place. How you doing everybody? And I was able to get that in bulk. but that was it. That was it. And then when I got home, yes, I just, I had no plan other than walking out of my building and just walking about the city. And I did.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I walked all the way down State Street, went to the rack. Yo, hanging out at the rack, man. Nordstrom rack? That's right. That's a great place. I did go to my Starbucks for a little while. Oh, you're, oh, you did? Did you say hi to the people?
Starting point is 00:22:11 But they're inside, so they weren't having the same great time that everybody else was. Right. I usually feel really comfortable. Like in the winter, I feel really good in a coffee shop. Not on a 65 degree day. So are you two going to take a day off in exchange or what? Because you know how I feel. I think you should.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Your time is worth a lot to me. You guys are precious. You know, I'll find something to do. I got to make a plan. I got to get away for a three-day weekend. I got to plan this is when I want to use it, you know. So the answer is yes. Strategy.
Starting point is 00:22:39 TBD. We're going to take it together. Yeah, we're going to go. We're going to get away, do a producers getaway, you know. You deserve it. Producer retreat? So you want to spend more time with the guy that you see. sit with for five hours a day.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Absolutely. I love this guy. Did you see who perked up when I said producer retreat? Old Tanny back there. Old Tanny's back there? Chris Tannahill. Oh, hey, old tanny. Chris Tannahill wants it on the producer retreat.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about. We had a midday show retreat one time to Nise. That was a good time. Chris Tannahill wants nothing to do with a producer retreat. I don't see it. I don't see it. I don't see it.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Well, we'll figure that out in the break. Not that he doesn't love everybody, I'm just saying. Coming up next, we want to get back into some of the CAP discussions that are abound for these bears. Kevin Fishbane wrote a big article about the CAP casualties that could happen. This is franchise tag day in the NFL, so we're also keeping track. What? We're keeping track and tabs on that. All right, that's it. I'm cut off.
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