Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Allen Robinson isn't surprised the Bears traded DJ Moore to the Bills (Hour 4)

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

In the final hour, Leila Rahimi and Mark Grote were joined by longtime NFL receiver Allen Robinson to react to the Bears trading receiver DJ Moore to the Bills. After that, Rahimi and Grote continued to take calls from Score listeners who shared their opinions on the Bears’ trade of Moore.

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Ben is a pretty serious locked in dude, you know, he's like that constantly. You know, Ben, every blue moon, you know, Ben, a crack one of those kind of evil smiles, if you will. With Rahimi Harrison Grody on 1043, the score. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 1043, the score. And Alan Robinson joins us on our hotline, the Pro Bowl wide receiver, Chicago Bear from 2018 to 2021, co-host of the press release podcast. He is at Alan Robinson on X.

And he joins us on Twitch, Twitch.tv slash the Score Chicago. Alan, thanks for coming on on a very busy breaking news day here. I appreciate it. Thank you guys having me. What is your initial reaction to hearing the news that DJ Moore

goes to be in Buffalo, his former OC is now the head coach and Joe Brady? And he's playing with Josh Allen and is traded away from the Bears. You know, something that doesn't surprise me, even at the Combine, when you look at the players that the Bears currently have on their roster, they had a lot of young players on the offensive side of the ball,

really perform. And I would say outperform as far as expectation was in year one. And when you look at how to get Colston Loveland more opportunities, how to get Luther Bird and more opportunities, sometimes you have to add by doing subtraction. And that in this case was DJ Moore. But at the same time, I feel like for DJ Moore, the opportunities that he wants to have

and that he wants to look at as more of a number one guy, I think that fits in Buffalo well. Obviously, he has the familiar face with Joe Brady who knows how to utilize a skill set like that, who just took over. It's been talks this entire offseason on how and will the Buffalo bills add another weapon for Josh Allen. and they did that today, I think it's a win-win for both sides.

Yeah, we know that DJ Moore has that star potential. And we've been using the chemistry word to talk about Caleb Williams and DJ Moore, which has kind of run hot and cold, some of the biggest catches in franchise history by DJ Moore, and then games where we're all looking up the statistics and saying, where's the targets, where's the catches? Chemistry's a funny thing because it's like in your case, Alan, you had, grade chemistry with Mitch Trubisky and that it just wasn't the same with Justin Fields. Can you relate to that a little bit and how this opportunity, as successful as he was with the Bears, could be even better for DJ Moore.

Yeah, and I think it's styles. And I say styles because even for myself with Mitchell, Mitchell always had the whole field at his disposal and being able to go through his rees. Sometimes a lot of plays that were made with Justin Fields may be more of scrimble-like plays. So now you're talking about what side of the field are these plays happening on? Is he being flushed out or is he escaping out of a particular side? Now when you look at halves of the field and how that may take place with a mobile quarterback, even though Josh Allen is mobile as well,

I think we've saw the consistency that he's had with guys like Stefan Diggs in his past to be able to get the ball to a number one receiver. We're talking to Alan Robinson, co-hosted the press release podcast, former Bears receiver here on 104-3 the score. Alan, one of the things I thought about too was, we saw that DJ Moore's number of targets went down this year. And before I talk about a receiver's production, I always say, well, he can't target himself.

And there are times where I feel like sometimes just a function of plays can limit whether or not you're in a quarterback's line of sight. How do you speak to that knowing, say, if you're getting a lot of pressure on the left side, that's where the weakness of the Bears line was last year? and you've got to rush on the left side. Naturally, quarterback's going to roll out to the right.

Okay, well, if you're a receiver on the left side, it's going to make you less likely to be the read on that play. What do you think about just that concept and how that would work out when it comes to production overall? I think that's definitely a factor. You know, I think when you look at all the factors, that's definitely one. Then you also have to look at what side of the field

is the quarterback escaping to that's most comfortable for him. That's also something to be factored in. And now you also have to factor in where is this person being placed in the progression? Because as we know, sometimes some of your more veteran receipts, some of your more veteran quarterbacks, if you will, the Matthew Staffordes, the Jared Gough can hang in there and get to their third and fourth read. But sometimes for younger quarterbacks and who also are more mobile, they don't get past their second read. They like to use their legs. And then once they use their legs to extend the play, now they find a receiver. But being able to stay on script if you're not the first or second talk,

or sometimes even if you are the second target with all those factors being involved, sometimes it can have a reduction in targets just by the sheerness of those factors that take place on a Sunday. I know you follow the whole NFL and obviously you're always keeping an eye on your ex-team the Bears. What have you thought about this offseason for the Bears with what happened today, with Drew Dalman pulling the surprise party on everybody by retiring at the age of 27? right now you don't have a left tackle.

You almost don't have linebackers. You don't have safeties right now. And maybe you could speak to like the NFL in general and the way it works. But what have you thought about the Bears offseason in general? And the way it looks relative to just feels like last week, we were all thrilled over the fact that the Bears beat Green Bay in the playoffs and we're headed to take on L.A. in the next round. Yeah, this is about how I thought it would be.

You know, for me, I've learned from playing in NFL that each year, is its own kind of entity and how you kind of get to that can be different. So we knew, well, at least I thought coming into this with some of the weapons that they have and with those guys really needing more opportunities coming into this year, that there may be a chance somebody on that offense that's there this past season wouldn't be there. Now, when you look at the defensive side of the ball, the linebacker core, secondary, there's always moves that can be made. Obviously, when you have the subtraction of a DJ Moore, you now acquire some draft capital.

Now you're able to either use that in the draft or trade and use that. So there's many ways in this NFL to be able to skin a cat, if you will, on how you acquire talent, rather if that's free agency or draft. Please excuse the alarmed look for Mark. Alan. Mark has a cat at home, so I think he took that one a little alarmed. Yeah, he made a face. I'm disappointed in you, Alan. But you're right.

There's a lot of different ways to go about this. When you consider, though, how catastrophic this can be or just the overall effect on an offense that was functioning well and thought perhaps at least that many of the long-term pieces were in place and the bears still don't have a set answer at left tackle because of Ozzie Tripillo's injury, how can this affect an offense in your understanding as a former player? How much can this really change things?

You know, it has the possibility of change. things. Now you're really leaning on the development of your players, of some of your young players from year one to year two. But when you draft guys in the first round, when you draft guys in the second round, that's something that you kind of foresee as you're sitting in those draft rooms of, okay, where will these guys be at in year one to year two? And I think they're on pace. So there is a risk that you take when you have a veteran player that has been there. One of your leaders now exits the building, but now it's the opportunity for some of your young guys to step up as well. This will be year three for Caleb, so he's not, he's not on the younger side or rookie side anymore.

And I say that because some guys still consider rookies, guys in year two before they play three games that year are rookie. So you have guys that have to step up, and I think that's on the coaching staff and on the development of the players. But it is a risk, but you have the pieces in place that need to step up. Alan also just made me think that like, of course you're better off having DJ Moore in your wide receivers room. But it's different because Caleb Williams, like he's coming up with Roma Dunzee. He's coming up with Luther Bird and Colston Lovelland.

These are his guys. So he doesn't have to, you know, for whatever reason like we talked about the chemistry, he doesn't have to sort of like force it now to DJ Moore. Like DJ Moore is not getting his. I've got to get the ball to DJ Moore. he's growing with these young guys. Is there something to that? Because again, I see the parallel with you back in 2018.

Once they've figured it out, get the ball to Alan Robinson as much as possible, even though you have other weapons like Anthony Miller and company and some of the guys that you had on that 2018 team. Yeah, you know, I definitely think it can ease the mind of a quarterback. But, you know, again, man, you're really trusting it. You're really trusting on the development of the young players and just the cohesiveness that Caleb Williams will have with those guys.

I even look at example like to where DJ Moore is going. DJ Moore is now going to the Buffalo Bills. Once the Buffalo Bills got rid of Stefan Diggs, there were, Josh Allen didn't necessarily have to force the ball to digs all the time. And sure enough, right after, they were in need of a weapon. So sometimes it can help, but sometimes it can hurt. But again, differently than that situation,

I think the Chicago Bears have the weapons in place that I think, like you said before, having a younger crew of guys who can just kind of develop together and come up together, I think that will be good for them. Alan, also, we just are seeing a lot of big name receivers move around the league now. Yeah, this is a trend that happened, I want to say, like maybe five or six years ago, where some of the biggest names like Tyreek Hill goes to Miami from Kansas City, for example. That seems to just be part of it.

George Pickens gets traded. He gets the franchise tag on the tag deadline day earlier this week. What do you think about just the movement when it comes to some of the biggest names who are receivers with big contracts getting dealt like this all across the league. Yeah, I mean, we've, you know, we're in kind of uncharted territory now when it comes to just player movement. And from a day-to-day basis, anybody can be moved. You know, I remember a day where quarterbacks didn't really get released. Now you see quarterbacks, you saw Kyler Murray possibly getting released.

You see Kirk Cousins on the market to possibly get released. So when you see things like that, the NFL continues to change and continues. continues to evolve. So, I mean, I'm a person, again, where there weren't many trades. When I first came into the NFL, you didn't see a lot of big trades when it came to skill position guys and quarterbacks. But now that's something that just becomes a part of the norm. Why do you think that is? I think when you see teams do it and it kind of works when you see the L.A. Rams trade for Jaylon Ramsey. And he comes in and does what he does. When you see the GM for the Rams trade, some of the draft capital and then they win the Super Bowl and he has a shirt that says,

F those picks. It's a copycat league. It's a copycat league. People see what other guys are doing and they, and something that may have been extremely valuable in previous years, which to some still are, first round draft picks. They aren't as valuable to others as that. They would rather have the more proven talent to bring into their building. Obviously, we just saw the Rams again, trade for a cornerback yesterday from Kansas City and

use one of those first round draft picks. So people go about it different ways, but it's kind of a copycat leak, and I think people are a little less afraid now to trade some of those bigger names and bigger contracts. I think about the Matt Stafford trade, too, Alan. You know, I think about the Matthew Stafford trade, and that seems him to L.A. Jared Goff goes to Detroit, and it worked out for everybody. Definitely, definitely. And again, I think that's what, and, you know, shout out to those teams for making that happen,

because I think that's what makes it so cool is that things like that and situations like that do work out for everybody. Even looking at the trade today with DJ Moore, I do think that's probably in the best interest of DJ Moore and the Chicago Bears. They get some draft capital. Their younger guys get to get on the field and get some more opportunities. DJ Moore goes to Buffalo, a team that needed a receiver. And I think both teams win.

Well, and I'll put you in DJ Moore's shoes, for example. If you found out that you were going to work with Josh Allen, and your former offensive coordinator, how would you feel if you were in that position? I would be excited because obviously there's been rumblings that he may be dealt this offseason at some point in time anyway. So once you kind of swallow that pill and get an understanding that I may be dealt,

I may not be on the Chicago Bears next year, now it's what's the next best situation? And I think him going to an offensive coordinator that he had a tremendous amount of success with and also a quarterback like Josh Allen, I don't think it gets much better than that. Talking to the former bear, Alan Robinson, right here on Rahimi Harris and Grotie. Focus of the day, if you're just turning on your radio, DJ Moore has been traded to the Buffalo Bills.

The Bears getting back a second round pick this year in the draft. Alan, what do you think about what's been going on with A.J. Brown going back to this season in Philadelphia and some of his unhappiness. And I know teams like New England are talking about potentially acquiring A.J. Brown. What do you think about that talent? and I don't know. I doubt anything would happen with the bears that he would end up a bear, but what do you think about A.J. Brown?

I don't think that he'll end up a bear, but I think he's a phenomenal player. I could see him still being in Philadelphia next year. I mean, Philadelphia is a team where when you look at their offense, I don't think they can get better by trading a player like that, even if it's for a draft capital. That's a team that has been win now for the past three to four years, maybe even dating back to five years.

So I don't know if they can just fill that void or if they have the talent on the roster like the Chicago Bears, the young talent on the roster like the Chicago Bears to be able to trade one of their veteran receivers. But I could also, you know, Howie Roseman, he's a dealer, man. He'll make trades. He'll make moves and he's not afraid to move him. So you can't rule anything out. Where do you put Howie Roseman in line, like how you rank NFL GMs, Alan? He's up there for me. He might be the best in the league.

He's up there for me too. I will put him at number two. I'll put him at one or two. You know, him and less, man, they, there are some willing and dealing guys who have been able to keep their team in contention for a long time now. I love doing power rankings with you. Maybe he'll do the wide receiver here in a second,

but I don't see your retirement papers yet. This is what, this is what opens the door for you to finally get that invite back to Ben Johnson and Bears training camp. Is that what's going on here, Alan Robinson? Listen, as much as I would love that, you know, I think that those days are are gone and behind me, again, I had a blast plan for Ben Johnson. I love the city of Chicago, but you know, but hey, you know, you can't, like you said before, never, you know, never say never. But I do think those, those days are long gone.

Are you done like playing period? I mean, obviously that makes sense that it might not be a fit with the Bears, but are you, are you calling it, Alan Robinson? Not exactly yet. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. But I haven't made a final decision on that either way yet. When you hear somebody retiring early, like Drew Dalman at 27, obviously a very different position from yours. He being a center, you being a receiver. But when you hear about him retiring early, like what goes through your mind when you, what was your initial reaction? You know, when you think about some of those guys that are planning in the trenches, you know, that those positions can be pretty brutal. I mean, even look at Frank Ragnall, you know, he in Detroit, you know, he plays center. He had a pretty unexpected retirement as well, you know.

So, but shout out to those guys, man, take care of yourself, take care of your mental, take care of your physical. You know, when you've played in this league and the amount of time and stuff that guys have to dedicate to the game, whether that's getting themselves ready to play on Sunday mentally or physically some guys who've dealt with injury, I look at myself. You know, after I broke my foot in L.A., just the amount of maintenance each and every day that it took to get my body ready to play, you know, sometimes that can become pretty, pretty grueling. So at this day and age, man, with guys getting paid in NIL and stuff like that, I'm not surprised by early retirement. It's shocking, though. I mean, it was.

It is. It is. And again, and I'll say this, that's a position in Ben Johnson and that kind of system that's very, I'm not going to say dependent, but it's a very big chest piece when you have a good center like that. Again, even last year, I thought as tough as it was for the Detroit Lions to lose Ben Johnson, I think it was even more tougher than to lose Frank Ragnow as well. Yeah, I feel like that's true. He's the first person I thought of when this happened with Drew Dalman. That was the first name that came to my mind. Same. He's the first person that came to mind as well. And I know he had a foot injury that was pretty debilitating

for him that also led to his decision. Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Then I got to ask you about this because you grew up in Detroit. You're a Lions fan at heart. Did it crush your soul when Barry Sanders retired and then even to a different degree, Megatron, down the line? Yeah, I mean,

I was young when Barry retired, but definitely when you see greats like that retiring prematurely, it definitely hurts your heart. But now looking back at it, hearing Calvin Johnson speak on just kind of how his body felt and what it would take for him to get going each and every Sundays and just the overall length of how he had to take treatment, even up in time to game day, to sleep in his hyperbaric chamber, day before the game and waking up at 3 a.m. to go home to sleep in the hyperbaric

chamber. So guys are doing a lot to get their bodies ready to play on Sundays. And sometime it just becomes a bit too much. Alan Robinson, per usual. This has been fantastic conversation. Thank you so much for joining us today. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks, Alan. And if you want more of Alan Robinson, you can catch his podcast, the press release podcast. He's also at Alan Robinson on X. He does actually post. So Alan Robinson once again, we thank him for joining us today on Rahimi Harrison Grotie. People are still holding on the phones. Let's talk to him. I think we have to.

That's keep the customers with. Quick break. We'll get to all those. Because you guys have been on hold for a while. And unlike some bad, like, customer line, we're going to talk to you. So we'll do that next. 312, 644, 67, following the news about DJ Moore going to the bills next. Rahimi Harrison Grody, Midday's Tyndle 2. On Chicago Sports Radio, 1043, the score. Now, Chicago can use the clock as limited.

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That's how you do it. DJ Moore. Now going to the Buffalo Bills. This is Rahimi Harris and Grotie on 104 through the score. And we said we take your calls. And some of you have been waiting a really long time. And unlike bad customer hotlines, we're going to pay it off. So Caleb and Minooka, you're on.

Rahimi Harrison Grotie. Yeah, so I like this trade, but I'm wondering how we're going to get a deal for Max Crosby. You guys have any idea? Okay, well, the good news is they just freed up $16.5 million in cap space, and Max makes over 35. So does that help you get from point A to B at all? Any? Yeah, it does, a little bit.

Okay. We got you, man. You doing it? You okay? You all right? Yeah, I'm good. Okay. The other thing, too, is I agree with you.

like if the real deal, if the Raiders are serious and they want the quote, Micah Parsons deal, then theoretically the Bears probably had the best to offer with a DJ Moore and some sort of first round package to offer. But their biggest trade ship just got traded because he was their biggest trade chip. So the question becomes, does anybody else have a better offer? And, you know, the Cowboys report that we got from Jane Slater of NFL Network earlier today said, The Cowboys don't want to give up two first rounders for Max Crosby. So that also is something.

When in doubt, look at other teams as well. Yeah, it is interesting, too, to think now. You just mentioned DJ Moore being the number one asset, like real player on a team that the Raiders would be desirous of at this point. I'm trying to think of who that would be. The Bears obviously have two first round picks in the next two years that they give away, but who is that player now that? that, and don't think of it from a Bears, like, who would you, you know, you wouldn't mind giving

up a DeAndre Swift or Colt Comett. Think like the Raiders. Who would the Raiders take off the Bears roster right now? And you've got to start with the best. Colston Loveland, they would say, how about your Luther burden? We'll take your Luther burden from you. I'll give you free agent, Alameda Zakias, who is not under contract with the team for Max Crosby straight up. We'll take your Montez sweat. Ooh, would you do that? A sweat? swap for Crosby? I don't necessarily know that they want that much money on their books if they really want to build around Fernando Mendoza in this way. Although they are insane amount under the cap. They are oodles under the cap. So I need to double check the numbers. But for example,

Ashton Genties are fifth highest paid players. So there's that. The rookie running back. Yeah. So when you consider that, that's significant. Let's go to Jesse in Orlando next. Jesse, you've been waiting a long time. We thank you. Hey, I appreciate you guys. So I just want to touch on a few things here. I think Bears fans should be rejoicing. We overpaid DJ Moore, who to me is not a true number one. Yes, he made some plays, but that's what you got paid for.

Caleb throwing him that touchdown wide open against the Packers wild card. He's doing his job. Overall, doesn't play through the whistle, wasn't really a leader on the sidelines. As a quarterback, you want that belief in that energy from your best receiver, your number one receiver, right? But more importantly, I think now we need to do a massive overhaul. Trey Hendrickson, Tyler Lyndonbaum would fit perfectly with the Bears. You got money now.

Keep your draft picks. Build depth now. We have the toughest schedule in the NFL next year. We need to build depths. So if guys do get down, you know, I think Max would have been a great idea. But overall, you don't need Max Crosby. We can't just have one guy like Max Crosby coming off of a surgery. he gets hurt, then what? Now you're

so well. So, you know, I think overall the Bears have, you know, I trust polls, I trust our coaching staff. We drafted, you know, top in the league last year. So they know what they're doing. I love the Bears. And one other side point I wanted to make, I know you mentioned, you were

pretty quick to pick Swift over Menongai, but Menongai had nearly 60 less carries than Swift, averaging five yards of carry. That puts them all over a thousand yards rushing. The business side of it. Manunga, obviously, on a rookie deal. I think going into his second year, he's on the incline. Swift potentially could be on the decline. But our O line is overall just great, and you could

have ran through some of those holes. So overall, I love where the bears are at. I think this is a great deal for both teams. But I think, you know, bills also have their issues on defense. So I don't necessarily think DJ Moore puts them over the top to be a contender next year. Good call from Jesse and Orlando. I will say this. Yes, you are right. Menungai did have a decent season, but it was DeAndre Swift, who averaged 4.9 yards of carry. Menongai was 4.6. That's not a big difference. So I see where your upside is at when you're trying to gauge it in the future. I don't think Kyle Menongai is yet a number one bulk carry running back in the NFL. And I noticed he said, well, you know, Swift could be on the decline. No,

in fact, he's on the upswing. He'd hit a really good year with Ben Johnson. So while I'm not here to denigrate Kyle Menungai in any way, shape, or form because he was a bit of a revelation considering where he was drafted, but Swift is better than Menongai every day. He was your Menongai. He was my Monongai. I love, I can't wait to see what happens, but let's not get carried away. And I agree, too. The only other thing, too, I'll be critical of the call.

Let's not diminish what to say, well, he's supposed to catch a wide open play in the end zone. Get out of here with that. There was some spectacular catches made by DJ Moore. Was it a good trade? Yes, is a good trade. Were there chemistry issues? Yes. Were there body language issues with DJ Moore?

Yes, but let's not like go through, like, act like everything was bad with DJ just to make a point. And by the way, a lot of the downfield blocking on the runs from Swift and Menongai came from who? DJ Moore. So let's point that out as well. DJ Moore was it an excellent downfield blocker? Yes. It's a tough guy. And there were even times where he was used out of the backfield because the running game wasn't going the way they wanted it to.

Do you realize, too, by the way, then I probably have done it myself. I think I have. If Tyler Linderbom is to be with the Bears, we're going to have problems because he gave us a Lindenbaum. We're going to get Lindenbombs. We're going to get Linderbombses. It's not going to be pretty in terms of the Chicago pronunciations that will occur if, if Tyler Linderbomb is to be here. Yeah. I was like, ah, he's rolling.

We're in the right place. I botched it earlier myself. This must be the place. Yeah, four and a half hours of live radio. And I wish I was a robot. That would solve a lot of my problems. Yeah. But no, we're getting stuff real time.

I think air traffic control for a lot of stuff. So sometimes it's just hard to keep track of it all. Let's go to Cooper and Lombard. Cooper you're on, Rahimi Harrison Grotie. Hey, what's going on? Thanks for taking my call. Shout out to you, Leila. We do Sky Games and cover, you've always been a real street.

I always appreciate your Cubs insider knowledge while we're doing Sky games. But I wanted to talk about if the Bears and Ryan Poles specifically cost themselves a fifth round pick by not doing this deal at the trade deadline. Now, I think it is a good deal for the Bears overall. I mean, DJ Moore's 29 years old. You're getting a second round pick back. I think it was confirmed earlier today, too, that the bills are going to guarantee his salary, that being DJ Moore for the next two years.

By the end of the 20-28 season, he's going to be the 13th highest paid wide receiver with not that production, obviously. But I just, I'm still curious if you guys think it may have been a mismanagement and costing themselves a fifth round pick by not doing it sooner. Yeah, I see where you're at, Cooper. And yes, I appreciate you during Sky Games as well.

And I'm pretty sure you were in our office a couple, like maybe a month ago or a couple weeks ago. So it's good to hear from you. I also want to add this, though, is that I think you make the trade when you know you have to. There are times where, yes, the value may not be the same. But if the negligible value on that, the difference, the Delta is a fifth rounder, would you like to have it? Yes. Of course.

I know what I would like to have even more NFL? The compensatory picks for Ian Cunningham getting a promotion. That's why he laughed. Yeah. And trading DJ Moore for a second round pick. is really good. Excellent. Given the salary, excellent. And then you saw in turn what Buffalo plans to do.

Already they are intending on guaranteeing part of his 2028 deal. So that is an indication that they wanted this to be a long-term commitment. I think also maybe there was the part of the Bears wanting to do right by DJ too. Absolutely. That's a wonderful place to go if you're traded. Well, that was the part, I mean, Ryan Poles, like in the two-sided evaluation that he gave of DJ Moore, the big part of. of it was what a great locker room guy this is, what a tough guy this is, what a

professional this guy is, but you know, the NFL is the NFL. So you knew that what Ryan Poles was saying was absolutely genuine. And yeah, that's what you do in multiple sports. You try to make the guy happy because you respect them. Yeah. And I feel like that that may be exactly what happened here because that was, you know, he traded Justin Fields to Pittsburgh. That was one of the places he wanted to go. Yeah, well, I think about, I don't forget that part too. Different sport, but think about when the Cubs sell-off of all the 2016 players was going on. Did not put many of those players in slouch positions at all.

All went to contenders. You had Bryant going to San Francisco, Rizzo to the Yankees, Baez to the Mets. I mean, it was like that that is something that. I like to see that. Can't always work that way, but it's a nice common courtesy if you can do it. Craig Kimbril stayed in town. And from what we understand at the time, that was important to him as well.

That's right. And there is an element of trying to do right by your guys. So Cooper, thank you for the call. We'll continue. 312, 644, 67, 67. I think it's Tagan. Is that right? Teggs.

What up, Tags? Hi, Tegin. Yep. Hi. I just wanted to call and give DJ Morris flowers because for the most part, I really feel like as someone who grew up watching the Bears since 2017, having to deal with the Kendall Rice, the Joshua Bellamy's, and even some guys like,

Nikiel Harry. Having a DJ more in this feels so nice. But I also wanted to say this too about Max Shrosby. I know a lot of people are saying, you know, we could get him now, but remember when we got Kloyal Max, that was like a couple of weeks before the season. Now I'm not saying that we're going to get him at that point, but I do think that people are forgetting too that you could also just get all these good players now trade the players that you know you can get value out of now and then come next year when

you have a fresh slate of picks you could just get max crosbie for cheaper maybe the raiders are so going to be asking that ridiculous price of two first round picks but you know at the end of the day you could still get them by that point i think those are all fair points and to mention to keel harry that was not the name i expected to hear today but i think it is fair he was he had a officially been out of my brain and now he is back in my brain he had dropped out he didn't make the cut in my brain mcale harry and byron pringle didn't do anything for you well it was dj more and then i did like i did have some really wild conversations with with byron pringle unfortunately they were not on on microphone and the name wait what were they i i'm not even going to say because

i don't want to get stuff wrong but he just gave me a mouthful one day it was It was absolutely delightful. But I can't remember specifics enough and I don't want to do him wrong. Get Byron Pringle on the phone. But Josh Bellamy, that name was brought up. Interesting character in the locker. I think I was only there for one year when he was with the Bears. Josh Bellamy got popped by the feds.

Yes. For the small business loan fraud, I tell you. You're going to jail, George Bailey. Wasn't his company called Drip Incorporated LLC? Yeah. Let's see. Bellamy was arrested and charged for his alleged participation in a scheme to file fraudulent loan applications worth over 24 million via the Paycheck Protection Program. How dare you?

He was convicted and sentenced to 37 months in a federal prison on December 10, 2021. He is among the most well-known people convicted of loan fraud. Hold on. Didn't he also wear a shirt of himself one time? He was his company or something like that. No, no, not drip incorporated LLC. Didn't Josh Bellamy wear a Josh Bellamy shirt once? I mean, I don't remember that, but that sounds like on brand for one Josh Bellamy.

It's funny, we always do the quarterback list in our bears' lives of all the bad quarterbacks and all that kind of stuff. There's a pretty good wide receiver list, too. There's a pretty good receiver list. Sam Hurd. Sam Hurd. Also busted by the feds? Weed man. He's the real weed man.

I don't think it was weed. Well, there was weed as well. Oh, he was a one-stop shop. Oh, yeah. There was, like, you go back to the report. There was lots and lots of weed involved, too, but there was the higher up as well. Sam Hurd had the trench coat open it up. I got what you need.

So thanks to Tagan for leading us down this circuitous path of bears receivers. Now I'm really curious about what you guys talked about. You and Byron Bringle. I'm trying to jog my memory. If I can actually come up with it lucently, I'll share. Was it about, was it? Wasn't Byron Pringle the guy who was driving recklessly with his child? He was doing donuts, I believe.

That was the genesis of the conversation we were having. Who was the receiver busted by the feds? Who was the receiver in the drug ring? Who is the receiver who was doing donuts in the parking lot? With the kid in the car. Yeah, we got, I would say, I did that by no means. Did the kids stop crying though? I don't know.

You know, that's what I wonder. Was this an attempt to get his kid or to stop crying? But basically the converse, because I'm not going to be able to come up with the specifics, but the genesis of the conversation was about that and him kind of being embittered by other people who had gotten away with things and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but I don't want to, I don't want to get all Pringle here today. Pringle. Once you pop, you can't stop.

You know what I'm saying? If I start talking about Byron Pringle, I'll go on for hours. I kind of am here for this, actually. But I like Byron Pringle. I think he got a bad rap. I don't know if he got a bad rap or not, but I had a nice relationship with him. There it is.

Lawrence Holmes and Matt Spiegel will continue this DJ Moore trade reaction. Maybe not the other receivers talk. No Josh Bellamy talk or Nikiel Harry now that he's back in my brain. I just need to know if Josh Bellamy wore a shirt of himself. What's your Mount Rushmore of Bears receivers with rap sheets? I want to know which Bears wide receiver just dropped out of my brain now that to keel Harry is back in. Is it Anthony Miller?

It's a lot of these Akees. It's a lot of it is a key. They'll be, Spiegel and Holes will be joined by Dave Wonstett at three. So Coach Wonstead is coming on. James Palmer, the NFL reporter extraordinaire, friend of our shows. Our show.

That's right, Leila. I've known James Palmer a long time. Oh, yeah? He and I worked together in Houston. Well, well, well. Anthony Herron at 5 o'clock as well. So Big Ant is coming on. Tune in to Spiegel and Holmes from 2 to 6.

Right here on the score. We are live. We are local. And we're here for. you watch life on YouTube and on Twitch. I think we've got to keep the calls going because people have been on hold for a while and I don't really like it when people get on hold and that they don't get their voice heard.

You could like that, Leila. I don't like it. You like to please the people. No, is that I'm not going to do the thing that I do. You know, I'm not going to like, if you want to be heard, well, guess what? So did I. Just made a job out of it. But that doesn't mean you don't get heard.

That means everybody gets heard. The good news for the people that are on hold, they don't have to hear hold music. They get to hear us. could be good, could be bad. I'd like to think that's pretty cool. All right, 312, 644, 67, you get our last segment because you've hung with us. Rahimi and Holmes. Rehemi and Holmes. I'm dare you. Sorry, Spiegel and Holmes promos in my head. Plus Lawrence is like standing right outside. He is on the score.

Rahimi Harris and Grody, midday's 10 to 2 on 1043, the score. This is Rahimi Harrison Grotie at 1043 The Score. We've had a lot of callers reacting to the DJ Moore News. and I said, you know what? I get a microphone. So do you. 312, 64, 64, 67. We go to Alex in Wheaton.

Alex, you're on Rahimi, Harrison Grody. How's it going, guys? How are you doing? We're good. How are you? You know what? This morning when I saw the trade news, I knew it was coming,

but there's a couple things I want to say to make my peace with the DJ Moore's situation and everything that's happened. When DJ Moore was first traded to the Chicago Bears, a couple years ago with that first overall pick situation.

I was delighted. I'm young. I'm only 22. I'm a first-time caller, but I'm a long-time Bears fan. There's nothing in my life that would make me more happier for the Chicago Bears to go win a Super Bowl, and I think we need Max Crosby to do it.

I've been following this team for so long, and when we had Kaleo Mac, that was the best our defense has looked since 2006, and I was only three. I appreciate you making your first call here, man. Yeah, welcome to being a caller. Now you have to do this more often. And I don't want to ask you what your feelings were at the time,

because you may not have remembered them, but you understand the importance of a good pass rush is what it sounds like to me, Alex. Yeah, man. Absolutely. Watching the 2018 playoff game at the Wild Card against the Eagles, I remember sitting in my living room and I'm watching it happen, and the only thing I could think about is every –

that was my freshman year of high school. every single day. Every single day, it was Chicago Bears News, whatever. I listen to your guys' show. I listen to the NFL podcast. I listen to it all. And the only thing I could think about was if we win this game and beat the Eagles, we're going to the Super Bowl.

It didn't happen. Cody Parky ruined that for us. What are you going to do? I'm sorry, man. I don't want to ruin your dreams, but the Saints and Rams game was a wild game. So if you feel like going back and looking at it, that may also ease your pain a little bit.

So just want to throw that out there. Thanks for calling for the first time. Yeah, Alex. Yeah, thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Thank you and welcome. The only penalty I'm going to give Alex is that he's from Wheaton, which made me think of another bear's bust of a wide receiver.

That'd be Marcus Wheaton. So Marcus Wheaton has replaced Nikiel Harry in my brain now. He had dropped out. He's back in. So was Marcus Wheaton. Oh, and I mentioned to Laila during the break, Kevin White. And then there was Chase Claypool. The list is expanded.

Chase Claypool. I mean, like, I thought Chase Claypool. Chase, I'm in France and on the Pupplist Claypool. I bought it into that. Chase, Fashion Week, Claypool. I'm a Roy Williams when he was with the Bears. I got a name for you that's on the line right now. It's a special calling.

We're going to go to Joe Madden. Go ahead, Joe. Oh, yeah? Joe Madden's calling in with his thoughts. How we doing today? Joe? His name's Joe Madden. He's been Joe from Milwaukee.

Your name is Joe Madden? Yeah, spelled a little. different, but all right. Well, congratulations on your Joe Maddenness. Amazing. I mean, Andrew in Milwaukee, this is, oh man, when he was the manager of the Cubs, that must have affected you. Yeah, I did. I was,

I was like around 15 at the time, but still, people would comment on it. Fair enough. I got all the youths calling us today. I know. What do you, what do you think about the news? Yeah. I think, I mean, I keep seeing post, say we won the trade. My thought process now is

are we putting this burden on Jada Walker to kind of step it up or maybe bringing Mooney in. I just want to see what you guys think about that. Interesting. I like the Darnal Mooney idea. I didn't mean to laugh at Jada Walker. Yeah, Darnal Mooney. Ben Johnson said he wants people to catch the ball.

Yeah, well, Darnal Mooney was, he had some productive years. Like, I don't think he's a, like, at this point, you're not going to be able to bring in somebody who is premium. So you have to think probably like that would be my guess. And Darnal Mooney's not a bad receiver. you think he's a bad receiver? I just think he got overvalued because of his draft pick with the Bears here.

You know his fifth round and remember George McCasky bringing him up by name. And there was a time where when he was with the Falcons at one point during the season, and I think it was late into the year. He was leading the league in plus 20-yard receptions. So they had an intent and that was a Ryan Pace move, I think, on how they wanted to use him in Atlanta. I think you're on to something, though, Joe Madden, with the Jada Walker. I think Jaday Walker may have earned some stars in the latter part of the season there for the Bears.

Maybe, yeah. But it's not exactly the name I think of when I think, yeah, who's going to be the next productive depth piece on the bears? Maybe. But that's not where my brain's going. Okay, so let's, well, we can't. We don't have time. I was going to say we could game it out and say like, okay, well, who are you throwing two on first down? Who are you throwing two on second down?

Who's your guy to get the yak or rack or the first down? catch if you're in a third and three or four situation. Lucky for us, we do a show five days. Well, you do a show five days a week. You're welcome any time. It's just we thought you should have some time off after football season. No, I'm embracing it. I am absolutely embracing it.

Here you are doing all this extra research. Yeah. We had a whole show planned. We did. We did. But that's okay. Some of the stuff that we did. I can tell me, but the work I did was like in the draft, like defensive linemen

and defensive ends drafted in the 20. he's the Bears picket 25. 773 says, don't forget about Javan Wims. That's another great one. That's a great one. I think we'd need to do the segment, just like all the Bears receivers who disappointed you.

We've named a bunch of them already today. Like the quarterback list is overrated, man. I'm telling you. I don't think I need to be a federal prosecutor because if I were in the courtroom, when Josh Bellamy got busted for paycheck loan fraud, I would have probably been like, and he wore a shirt of himself.

Which, Your Honor, may be a greater crime. What do you wore it to court? Valis Jones Jr. Of course. Good tax. Yeah. And he puts Valis Jones Jr. Anybody.

Dot, dot, dot. Yeah. He should have been right. Ferret owner for Valis Jones Jr. I do, I do love a good name the player segment. Like just name. I love a relook at a draft segment. You know, where you just look at like the 2015 first draft.

Yeah, you brought that up in the meeting today. Oh, I love it. And then I love like a name the player segment. I think that that's a lot of fun. Yeah. So I won't get to talk about Felix NUDK Uzzella today, who the Chiefs picked with the 31st pick in the 2023 draft and now has three sacks in two years. But we could put these things off for another show. Yes, we could.

Yes. Because that's what happens. You see what you could have gotten, folks? Also, there's just some basic good questions on the text line, like one that said, why do you expect the bears to be better when they traded away their best receiver? That is a fair question. A fair question we will discuss. Ray says we have to go to break because actual Spiegel and Holmes are next. But before we do, I want to ask you guys a question.

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