Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Anthony Herron reacts to Ravens hiring Bears offensive coordinator Declan Doyle (Hour 2)

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

In the second hour, Marshall Harris and Mark Grote were joined by Score football analyst Anthony Herron to discuss Bears offensive coordinator Declan Doyle leaving for the same position with the Ravens. Doyle will call plays for Baltimore, an opportunity he didn’t have in Chicago. Later, Harris and Grote held the Halftime segment.

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He's wide open. Former NFL defensive lineman and Iowa Hawkeye. Anthony Heron received credit for it. Senexious job by Anthony Heron number 99. Mr. Haddon, I want to compliment you. He's doing a fine job. Big Ann Heron on 1043 The Score. Hey, it's Rahimi Harrison Grody.

Hey. I'm 104.3, the score. And we have in the house, in the studio for the next hour. I think he's here for the full hour. He's Anthony Herron. He joins us the Circa Resort and Casino Hotline in studio, Circa Las Vegas.com. What up, big ants? What up, Groats?

Your hair's looking good. Marshall's looking like a strapping young lad. We got all the boss man's got the suit and tie going right now, man. FM. We're on the FM dial. Mitch gets to just take deep breaths now because these guys, Mitch and Ryan and Ashley. Kevin Cassidy. Kevin Cassidy have been running around like crazy people.

Oh, we got baked goods. Mitch is now passing out donuts. Are you going to shuffle, Mitch? Are you going to shuffle? Are you going to shuffle? Now that the work is done, time to do. to shuffle. I think you're short-changing Mitch's role here.

He's looking at me like I'm a crazy person right now. You've been introduced to the Mitchie shuffle. Of course. You know what it is? Anytime at any public appearance with Mitch, I am looking out for the Mitch because I want to catch him in the act. And I have a couple of times, but it's always fun to watch. Does that make us the shuffling crew?

Is that what this is? We are the Mitch. Shuffling crew. No, I like that. That can work. What I did notice, though, was Mitch sat this tasty-looking pastry. That's fresh. That just came in the studio.

Okay. That's hot off the lamination. I'm really eager to check it out, but yeah, he's got it on this laminated piece of paperwork. I have no idea whose germs are on this thing. It's Ryan Porth, but he just held the corners of it. He literally brought this in the break before. Ryan, we could spray down here. Seems like a guy who's washed his hand, so I'm going to, I don't want to take such things for granted.

He tucks his shirt in, so that that looks to be a toenail side, right? That he probably does things like washes. He may even put on a little bit of sanitizer to go along with it. Possibly. I mean, this isn't going to stop me from eating it, but if my wife happened to be tuning in right now, she would be very concerned. She calls me the host. I'm the guy who brings the germs home and then they impact the rest of the household in a different way. Contaminated the whole ecosystems.

Yeah, but I'm definitely going to eat this thing. I don't know if this is, oh, no, okay. I had one earlier. I was worried it was like a cream-filled kind of thing. No, no, it's a straight. It's a straight donut. I scraped, they judged me, aunt, because I scraped all the sprinkles off because I'm not a sprinkles, Jimmy's guy. I just, just give me the straight donut, yeah.

I feel like you're still like this onion where layers are being peeled off of Marshall Harris. Well, he's letting it loose on FM is what it is. Yeah, FM's different, man. He's all irreverent now. I feel like a different guy. It's a great FM day, you know? That's what it is. You guys sound really good on FM.

Like AM, it was like, eh. But when I switched it, because the whole time I was driving here, I was kind of flipping back and forth between FM and AM. You can hear the difference? AM, I mean, you're suitable. FM. You got sound really. good. Well, to be very clear about it, too, because I did, I was talking to my central Illinois friends and even our Indiana friends as well. Other Hall of Famers? Well, you know, not everybody

could be a Hall of Famer. That's true. Not just anybody gets in. Only one Hall of Famer in my house, and it ain't me. We know that. We know that that is your wife for sure. But some people like, so, oh, well, I'm not getting 104 here in Granger, Indiana. The way, here's the thing. When I was talking about 670, maybe I misrepresented, that's where you get the distance. On the AM dial. You get the clarity and the bigger sound, if you want, on the FM. So it is the AM that we were bragging about, the distance to which you can hear the score. So that's the way the world works. But it is a grand day here at the score. You've been around here forever. And you know that we went from, the score did, started as 820 back on Belmont, became 1160 AM. Quite

the jump from 8.5. I don't know that they wanted that necessarily. I think it made the radio down heavier. It went all the way to 1160. That was like too heavy. So let's cut this in that. But we did get to move into that building that we could see from our building. And that's the NBC Tower. That's where the score was for years and years and years.

NBC. Yeah, that's right. And then we're like, okay, we got back into the 670 era, which was here at Prudential. And now here we are, 104. The big just keeps on getting bigger. So I see, I see cookies. I see what I assume are glasses. champagne or some sort of champagne. I mean, I got to drive home later, so I probably won't,

but I mean, I just like the fact that it's there and available. It makes it look very classy as we've gone over to the FM dial. A number of boxes of all kinds of pastries and baked goods. All kinds of balloons. Like Danny Parkins would be really happy. There's balloons everywhere so we could act like there was some kind of QB1 party going on. So there's a lot that's happening here at the station today, which is why I felt a need to come in person. We appreciate you being here in person. Not because I just enjoy your presence, but, you know, score history being made today. So I can be here in person, got my, you know, celebration shirt on, let's all celebrate, have a good time. Everybody on Twitch can check that out.

Like I think I mentioned this last week. Marshall's the only person I interact with consistently, who I think has a better collection of T-shirts than I do. But I really felt like the celebration T-shirt was one that really suited the day. That is absolutely appropriate for today and really kind of carries a thing. I like the color of the shirt as well because that could be like a, black and white white. No,

it's got celebratory type tones to it with the orange and the yellow and the white. Yeah. I want to ask you because I don't know

that anybody's celebrating. I mean, I guess they are celebrating because the sign of a good NFL program, a good organization is when people move on to bigger and better

other places. We've now seen Ian Cumingham become a general manager in Atlanta. We've seen Eric B. Enemy go back to being the offensive

coordinator, which is a promotion and title change for him back in Kansas City with Andy Reed. and now Declan Doyle, I thought they were going to get through unscathed because he turned down that job, call in plays for what I feel like has got to be a very dysfunctional organization in Philadelphia, based on how this went down. And then the next thing I know, he's being targeted and now is going to be the offensive coordinator for the Ravens

with a multiple-time MVP in Lamar Jackson. What's a little bit fascinating about it, too, is because Declan Doyle has had a really quick rise in the coaching ranks and then to pull his name out of that situation with the Eagles, one of the most consistent franchises in the National Football League. We've seen various coaches come in, competing for Super Bowls, winning Super Bowls, various quarterbacks for years now, leading the team to playoff runs and division titles.

If you want to say who's winning more in the NFL than any other franchise in football, you want to go towards the top of that list. You look at this century, the Philadelphia Eagles are towards the top of the list. of winning its franchises in the sport, regardless of the folks operating at the coach and quarterback positions, the two most important spots to fill on the team.

So for Declan Doyle to pull his name out of the Eagles search, but then be willing to go with the Baltimore Ravens also one of these franchises. That is remarkably consistent. And there's been less turnover at quarterback, I would say, but still, with multiple quarterback since they won the Super Bowl right at the turn of the century, They've had a few different quarterbacks in, but they've still been able to win consistently, you know, in the midst of multiple head coaches. So, yes, he got a job and got this opportunity with another consistent franchise. But as those discussions, those interviews take place for a young guy like that to essentially stiff arm the Eagles, kind of mush him in the face, like, no, I'm good.

You know, you may want to offer me to get the job, you got to go out and find someone else. But then very quickly to about face and go with the Baltimore Ravens, that's where you would hope everyone's an adult in these. situations where, oh, you didn't want us. That's fine. You're a professional. You made your choice. But there was no bridge there to be burned, but I do wonder a little bit just Eagles ownership, coaches and executives in place who say, oh, you think they're a better situation than us. And it is a little dicey when coaches do turn down some of these opportunities. You know what I'm liking it to, guys? It's like when you ask that girl out and she's like, uh, yeah, I think I'm just going to stay in on Friday. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I

See, I'm going to stay in. You know, the weather's a little too cold or whatever. And you're like, all right, cool. And then you go somewhere and you see her there with the dude. That's harsh, man. Or you go somewhere else to see on social media that she actually was out that night. I thought it was going to go and something. I thought you were just going to keep it at.

Well, I thought you were to keep it there. That was bad enough to me. I'm not interested in hanging out with you tonight. I prefer my couch over you. But that's what he said. When he said, I'm with, when he said, I'm with, drawing his, when he said, I'm withdrawing my name, right? The thought was, oh, he wants to spend another year with Ben Johnson at the house.

Oh, no. He's like immediately. I mean, was it three days? Maybe four? I mean, definitely less than a week. And he was back out in them streets and found someone else to hang out with. Who are you, Declan Doyle? Who are you?

What are you ultimately? I mean, good for him to, like this job specifically, lead because obviously he gets to work with a future Hall of Fame already having been an MVP quarterback who ain't done by a long stretch, I don't think. You just call Lamar Jackson a future Hall of Famer? I think so. Okay. I'm pretty comfortable with that.

Is that a bold statement? I had to think about it. When he said it, I didn't say he's a surefire hall of fame, but now I'll think about it. I'll probably come up to it. The whole Bill Belichick thing, this is obviously a really sort of subjective conversation. But through my lens, being a two-time MVP solidifies his Hall of Fame status, even beyond if he led a team to two Super Bowls. Like, Eli Manning is not a sure-fire Hall of Famer in my mind. No.

Because in the regular season, Eli Manning was never one of the top quarterbacks in the sport. My guy Matt Linerd a few weeks ago started talking about Matthew Stafford as a top five quarterback of all time. That was a preposterous statement to make. He has rarely, he has just entered the space of being consistently viewed as one of the top five quarterbacks in football, let alone an all-time top-five great. He's always been productive. Matt Stafford has rarely been viewed as one of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL at any one given time. So that statement to me, I'm like, well, yeah, I think he's probably going to be a Hall of Famer. Top five all-time is skipping several steps for Matthew Stafford.

Your guy Stafford has played 17 years. He's been all pro one time and it was this year. That's why when you really think about it, that's why when you say the Lamar Jackson, I'm sorry, when Grody said it, I had to really like think about it, but you're probably right. Well, that's where to me, because to your point, Grotes, he's been a two-time MVP. He's been viewed as the best quarterback and the best player in the league multiple times in his career. So that to me is where the Hall of Fame status of a player is solidified even more so than being a person. part of the collective because you guys know how much

the collective, those 53 bodies and beyond that, the 90-some bodies and then coaches and personnel, it takes to actually have a team win at all to go to the Super Bowl and make that happen. So the quarterback is the most important cog in that, but there's

so much that goes into a Super Bowl championship that's different than just saying, oh, that was the best player in the entire sport. That individual season, you do that a couple of times. Yeah, you're 100% right. Lamar Jackson's a Hall of Famer. Stafford's only got two more Pro Bowl appearances than Shoulderer Sanders.

Right. That's a great boy. That's a great boy. That's just amazing. That whole story in itself. I am a little worried about the mix there though. Really?

Okay, because that's what I was going to say. The reason I like it, and I want to hear what you have to say, is because of Lamar Jackson, because of that offense and some of the talent on it and because it's a good situation for him, because the head coach, Jesse Minter, is a defensive

guy. He's not going to have that guy Polking around. It's his show. For better, for worse, it's Declan Doyle's show. Not only is he getting his first play calling, Jesse Minter probably, again, as a defensive guy with the Chargers, he's probably going to say, it's yours, man, make something out of it. Why don't you think it's a great fit? So when you think of the brief time, frankly, that Declan Doyle has been a coach in the National Football League. He's been greatly influenced by Sean Payton and Ben Johnson as the two offensive minds and the schematic minds that have presumably influenced what he is right now as a coach and what he will become as a play caller being able

to implement his own system. So the volume of verbiage and personnel groupings and the things that are on the plate of the quarterback are really expansive. It's really voluminous what both Sean Payton and Ben Johnson task their quarterbacks with. Now we've seen Sean Peyton in the second go around as a head coach in Denver. He's been able to tweak things to kind of help Bo Nix along a little bit, to not have his egg scrambled so frequently with everything he's tasking him with. And Ben Johnson, that development of Caleb Williams. That development arc, it took some time throughout the season to get to that point where Caleb was the true field general, where he was able to consume, to diagnose, and to display everything Ben Johnson

wanted him to within the Bears' offense. So if that's where Declan Doyle is going to be with his offensive system as a play caller, it's a different. circumstance now, where he has Lamar Jackson, who has already won two MVP, probably should have a third MVP, doing it his way, doing it in the way, yeah, multiple offensive play callers, but not within any offensive system that would rival what the quarterback is tasked with verbally and mentally post-snap within a Sean Payton offense or the Ben Johnson offense, as we know it here. So my impression is either Lamar Jackson,

will need to sort of, I guess, continue to evolve as a quarterback at this point in his career, or Declan Doyle will have to. And he's a very smart young man and a really accomplished coach for someone who's been doing it for such a short period of time. So I would imagine you don't go into coaching Lamar Jackson thinking that I'm going to do exactly what was done before with quarterbacks who don't rival the skills of Lamar Jackson. But I don't see this exact Bears offense or that exact Broncos offense being something Declan Doyle just brings to Lamar Jackson and says, here's the playbook, learn it. They're probably going to need to meet in the middle somewhere,

but it's not this automatic square peg in a square hole situation. No, no, I agree with your assessment of it, and I would say that's a healthy thing, because I think that's what works, is you meet the quarterback that you're coaching. But we would have to assume he'll meet him there because we haven't seen him run that sort of system is my point. Does Lamar want to change?

And maybe Declan Doyle's a godsend for Lamar, because maybe he unlocked something that will extend. to him beyond his athletic years. Yeah, that's my point, though, is I think they need to meet each other, and I think they both will be willing to because there's a reason a head coach just got fired, right? There's a reason why you have not gotten as far as you want to go in your career in terms of making it to the Super Bowl from Lamarra Jackson. So I'm interested to see that. The other thing I do like is the tight ends thing.

Baltimore has tight ends. They like to use tight ends. Declan Doyle, obviously, very familiar with 12 and even 13 personnel. I like the fit for the evolution for both guys. the offensive coordinator, the play caller in a first-time role, and also the quarterback who is trying to keep his career going at a certain level. Okay, good. Because I thought I heard you say that you hated defensive head coaches when I was driving here,

gross. So maybe I misunderstood. So it was good. He said that, right? Oh, okay. No, that's me. Point stands, once he does a good job, if that happens, he will be gone. You know both coaches in the Super Bowl are defensive coaches.

I sure do. Okay. And the guy who's not Andy Reid that has won more game since he entered the league that just got fired in Buffalo is. the guy who is second in win since he entered the NFL. And he's never been to the Super Bowl. I know that. There's a lot of offensive coaches who's never been to the Super Bowl.

And there's a reason Andy Reid fired him when he was his defensive coordinator, Sean McDermott. Remember, if it's bills, I'm going to tell you about it. If it's Eagles, I'm going to tell you about it. And Sean McDermott fits both those in the Venn diagram. But the point is he's won a bunch. It's my point. He's won a bunch. There's defensive coaches in this sport.

Even John Harbaugh in this sport was not an offensive coach. I am with you. And that's why I said. Mike Tomlin. was not an offensive coach. I'm as big a Tomlin as anyone. What I'm saying is in the modern NFL, you have a better chance of sustained success

if you've got that offensive guy because he's not leaving you. Your defensive guy, look at Philadelphia right now. How many offensive coordinators have they been through in the last decade? And they keep winning. They do keep winning. I don't want to break time.

I want to yell at Marshall. Can we handle more Anthony Heron? You know what's so funny, Marshall? They win it next year. I'm telling you that right now. Oh, okay. The Eagles are suddenly going to stop winning. I used to leave a segment for Anthony Harrow when I have him on as a guest just for him to tell us what we've gotten wrong.

While he's riding around, listening to the score. Normally I like to text when you get something wrong when I'm able to tune in. Yeah, yeah. He's like, oh, that guy shouldn't have his jersey. You're tired. This guy's crazy, man. You've got to be kidding me. Marshall's nuts.

I am nuts. It's fine. It's not the topics he wants to tell us where we're wrong. Not even the stuff we want to talk about. Not necessarily. And it's beautiful. It is. Where Marshall was wrong.

I've been wrong plenty of it. So if you want to bring us more of those after the break, we will do it. We'll also dig into more on the Bears and their offseason and Ian Cunningham and Eric Bienemy and all the different moving parts for the Bears. More with Anthony Heron is next on Rahimi and Harris on 1043 the score. Did I say my name? Oh, Ann Grody. by Team Mobile, the official wireless

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First day of FM. Maybe you're catching us on 104-3 FM right now. The score. They thought they were going to get music, and then they were pleasantly surprised to get music and sports takes. You can't hear that music playing right now? That's music and sports takes.

Can you sing J'Rul? Which song? What are we looking for? Whatever. Where would I be? without you. That one came to that. Well, I'm a baby. That's not all my break, man.

Well, I don't want to go crazy. Because everything needs to lay in. Is that? That's really what you want to run out? I needed that. Was that pleasing? Big Aunt, I needed that. Thank you. That was great. That was pleasing to the listeners.

I got exactly. Grody likes it when things are pleasing. I am very pleased. I noticed he didn't try to talk over you when you were singing that because he hates that. No, I do, but I asked for it. And you gave it to me. I like the way you sing. I just don't always like it when I'm the one to.

on the microphone. That's all. There is a distinction to be made right there. It shocks me how frequently it throws Speegs off because Speeks is accustomed to being on a stage with multiple instruments playing around him and he's carrying the lyrics and he's working the crowd and there's all that other stuff. And sometimes when I sing next to Speggs while he's talking. But there's nobody singing in his ear while he's singing for Tributosaurus though. Can you imagine that? Background vocals? Yeah, but there's not like directly in his ear. It's a very, I don't know, man. Look at balance.

Yeah, it's a newer type of thing, really, is what I'm getting to. You guys are wild. By the way, a couple things. Three technique. It's something, it's a newer type of situation. Something for all of us on the text line here. Grody, I just heard the first emergency broadcast on the score FM station. It sounded glorious.

So crisp. Thank you from the 773. FM Marshall is Mars Hall. Yeah. Is that what they're saying? That's it. That's what they're saying out there. and a texture for a big ant, oh yeah, the dulcet tones of Aunt Heron.

I imagine, yeah, I imagine you sound pretty good in FM too, man. I imagine you think you sound pretty good at FM too. I haven't been in FM since I was at. So I think this predated Ryan Porth being at the Nashville station that I used to do some appearances at when I was living down there, but they were an FM sports talk station in Nashville. So it's been a minute since I've been in FM. But, yeah. I would imagine I sound all right in FM too.

You, sir, I'm not going to disagree with that. You're adjusting very well, but I'm actually, I'm very excited to just to stop you from yourself. I'm very excited to hear about a, I love quarterback comps, I love Caleb Williams comps. You have a Caleb Williams comp? Yeah, when you look at the Super Bowl coming up this Sunday, the quarterbacks on display, the career arc of Sam Donald was expected to be more like what we've seen from Drake made to be the guy who steps into the league, shows signs as a rookie, and then second years in that MVP sort of conversation.

He has those types of physical tools. When you compare both guys are USC quarterback, Sam Donald and Caleb Williams, when you compare their highlights from college, the Sam Donald highlights are eerily similar to what Caleb Williams looked like for much of his run at USC in the Heisman Trophy season. Sam Donald, when I called his games for the Pac-12 network, USC. It called a bunch of his games in college. I described him as an improvisational wizard, where when the play would break down, and he didn't always have a great offensive line in front of him, so the play would frequently break down, or Sam just liked holding the football. So the play would

break down because he just wouldn't cut it loose. But then as he began to run around and improvise, sometimes even the ball would like dribble out of his hand and he'd pick it up and keep running and scrambling to and fro Fran Tarkinson style, but then frequently it would end up in these amazing plays that he would make during his college career. The arm strength was there. And beyond the arm strength, the arm talent was showcased as well for a guy who had the arm strength to hit every blade of grass on the field. But also, he could layer his passes.

He could turn the nose of the football over in a really rapid manner to get it beyond the linebacker in front of the secondary. And that was why I thought the physical gifts, that whole draft class that came out, because when you think about it, like top to bottom where you throw a Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, into that class. They began with Baker Mayfield and Josh Rosen in that mix as well, a bunch of first-round QBs. But Sam Donald was the one who was the most total package

with the skills that he brought to the table. Because his arm didn't have the horsepower of Josh Allen, but he was also super mobile and he did have a really strong arm. But he could pass with more nuance, more touch, more focused to how the football is being delivered, throwing receivers open. And he and Caleb are really evenly yoked in that manner. Caleb has always protected the football at a higher level than Sam Donald, though.

So that's why Sam Donald wasn't number one, why he was number three, a bunch of turnovers in college, and why his NFL career got off to a slow start, part of it being with the Jets. But then getting to the point where he could balance that playmaking ability with more of the mundane aspects of just being a precise and consistent quarterback, snap in and snap out. And once he did get around, Kyle Shanahan and, you know, some of these offensive are Kevin O'Connell. And now this situation he has right now that he's in with Clint Kubiak, he's been in offensive systems that take some of that load off of him. And he's just had an opportunity to evaluate more football because he was also a three and done guy who only started for two years in college and then came to the National Football League. So we've been in the league since 2018, but he's only 28 years old. So there's a lot of similarities between Sam Donald and Caleb Williams.

and Caleb is already on a much faster track to his excellence than where we saw Sam Donald early in his career. And Donald is a guy who still, I don't believe, has reached his ceiling and has already led a team to an appearance in the Super Bowl. All I heard is you're taking the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. That's all I heard. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

But not only because of Sam Donald. I think Drake May is going to play much better in the Super Bowl than he has, even though Seahawks are an incredible defense. But Drake May has a lot of those playmaking capabilities also. I just don't see him having four. consecutive bad games and they've got to find a way to run the football more effectively. Trayvon Henderson didn't get the rock in the AFC championship game. So in a similar fashion where Seattle's offense takes some of the load off Sam Darnold,

New England's offense has got to find a way to do that as well and just allow Drake May to find some chunk plays. So I think Drake May is going to play pretty well on that stage in the Super Bowl. Seahawks are just a better overall team. Yeah, no doubt. I agree with you. I have not made a pick as of yet. but we shall.

I mean, I can not get it not toward the lean towards Seattle at this point. I mean, they just are the better team. I can't rule out the Patriots at this point. But as for Caleb Williams making that comp there, what is reasonable to expect him to improve upon this year that wasn't maybe perfect last year? It's the earliest starts for me. The earliest start to the regular season. you would hope there'll be more of a jumping off point

in just having this offensive system down, having four of his five starters returning on the old line. And so to get off to a faster start early in the year, not just as a playmaker, because he made plenty of chunk plays early in the season last year, but we got into the month of December before we saw Caleb really executing the snap-by-snap of quarterback play at a higher level

and throwing more consistently with anticipation. Throwing catchable passes. That's the wildest thing about this past season with Caleb. The good weather games earlier in the year were when he's throwing these rockets that can barely be caught even when they're accurate. You got to 30 and 40 mile an hour winds. You got to below zero temperatures. That's when we saw a version of Caleb that took some revolutions per minute off the football that was able to throw it in a way that had more touch, more anticipation to it. So I'd love to see him start there. And I believe he will start

there earlier in the season next year. And I actually had a buddy in mine who sent me one of the clips from Instagram where you were asking me about Caleb's accuracy improving by the end of the season Marshall. I said it's going to really be hard during the regular season for that to show up. I was really impressed because between that conversation we had in early December and the end of the regular season, his accuracy

honestly did improve a lot more in that final month plus that I even thought it would. Now he's got an offseason to really get into the mechanics of playing quarterback within Ben Johnson's offense. It's not just about getting the playbook down rope memory style. He can combine knowing this office.

with footwork and timing and that getting the information from his brain out through his right arm in a really sort of smooth manner as opposed to having to catch up to the play like he did for much of the season last year. I did want to ask you, do you feel like we're in this post-Runey rule world when you look at the fact that there were 10 head coach jobs open and the results are in and it's not Rooney Rule favorable? I wonder if they're going to scrap it. if they're going to try to do something different because the path to head coach, as we talked about, and you obviously believe in defensive head coaches

can be a thing. Yes, they can be a thing. But do you feel like they're going to have to do something different to encourage these organizations to give minorities a chance? I love what Maryland head coach, and he's from the DMV, but he was a former Alinae offensive coordinator, Mike Loxley. He back during, like, in 2020, when everybody was just kind of out of work and sitting around trying to figure out what to do next basically,

Mike Loxley started a minority coaches coalition to try and attack the issue that you're raising here where there's not enough black coaches who are getting opportunities as offensive play callers, as OCs and offensive play callers as quarterback coaches, because that has more frequently become the path to becoming a head coach in modern football. So the volume of those opportunities,

it doesn't feel like are there as much. attack that to make sure that the coffers are as full as they can be. But Mike Oxley was a DB, but he's become thought of as this offensive wizard in college football. Kevin Sumlin, a guy who's on his Maryland staff, was similar in that way, played defense, but became this offensive-minded guy as a college head coach. But for black coaches, there's not as many quarterback coaches, offensive coordinators, offensive play callers, even when they are OCs. And that tends to be where teams want to pluck those opportunities from. And in the end, just like we're talking about Declan Doyle, he's 29 years old or maybe just became 30 or whatever.

And so he's at a space in his career where he was comfortable passing up on an opportunity from the Eagles. And then another one just came right away. For black coaches, there still is. For a lot of them that to communicate with, still that hesitation to, if I don't take this, is another one going to come? How many of these bites at the apple am I truly going to get? Because you want those interviews, that opportunity to be there to impress folks and just have that opportunity to at least. be in the system for them. To be within, if some old owner's got a little black book,

all right, let me be in that guy's black book so he knows I'm an option for him. But if there's not the frequency of candidates available, then that's where you've got to have more fertile ground where coaches are being developed into offensive play callers because that's where a lot of the jobs are going. You always make sense somehow, somehow, even though you rip Marshall. I disagree with him on the point I made,

and it's okay, he has his opinion, I have my, We'll see how it plays out. Defensive coaches. You can be a defensive coach. I'm just saying, as he just pointed out, the path to a head coaching job is much easier through the offensive coordinator lane. So if you have an offensive mind of head coach, you don't have to worry about turning over your head coach every year if you are a winning organization, quote unquote, like the

Philadelphia Eagles, who I do not think are going to be headed to anyone's Super Bowl next year. I will believe the Eagles are going to be bad when I see it. It's certainly possible. I don't think they're going to be bad. I just, if they're nine and eight, Syriani's gone, right? and they don't make the playoffs or they don't advance in the playoffs. And he should because he will have enough talent on the field that you could say most Sundays they've got more talent than the other team.

Big Ant, you're awesome. You're welcome to hang out with us for halftown. We're just going to be talking about the Grammys, man. If you want to, I know you're a music guy. You know what? If you don't want to. Our feelings won't be hurt, but we'd love to have you hang out with us. Maybe I'll leave like halfway through the segment.

That's fine. Whatever. You do whatever you want to do. No, you're not, you know, Brody. Not on FM Day. Not on FM Day. You're right. It is FM Day.

There was one of those Grammy moments last night and some good moments too. I always love the Grammys. There was a Grammy moment and there was a good moment. And there was good moments. You know what I'm saying? When I say, there's been Grammy moments through the years. We know all about them. We'll talk about it next on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 104.

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or 670 a.m. if you'd like. We've been partying here in the studios. Things have cleaned up. Order has been restored, but a party has been going down here in the potential towers. Great talk with Cole Comette. Bears tight end. That was fun. We also talked

NFL and Bears with the guy who remains in the studio, Anthony Heron. And we've consumed all kinds of germ-riddled pastries as well, which has been a lot fun. It was tasty. And you just took down six shots of champagne. I saw you out there. Oh, yeah, I got to go get some more of that. Now, as far as I know, the only person... I think Ridge White is going to leave me in it.

I see him out there in the hallway right now. I think, I would say, ironically, I suppose, but there is a Vegas Hall side. David, David Hall is the only one that I saw actually drinking some of the champagne out there. Morning drinker. I knew we had... It's 5 o'clock somewhere, first of all. He put it a whole day already.

I knew he had a four and a half hour show to do, so I was going to just slow roll it. It's a nice touch that it's there. It's good to it available, it classes the set up out there in the hallway. Classing the door it up. Just a little. It's a little. Yes, sir. The Grammys

were last night. It is one of my favorite productions of the year every year, and I mean that. I've devoured it because one thing, one issue I had last night watching it that I didn't necessarily have in past years, or at least I tolerated the breaks, are just too long,

too long in this world in which we Got to make that money. I understand. God. God. I'm a mistake. Suss out. Suck your mouth.

Not on FM day, guys. Well, they picked up the thing, CBS and the Grammys picked up this thing from like the NBA on ESPN where like they did a thing where commercial break was happening. And then they came back for 10 seconds and they showed the room. They didn't have anyone, Trevor Noah the host. did not speak. They just kind of gave you a live look into the room. Look at all the celebrities. And then more commercials for like another six minute. Take care, folks. It's like if you've walked away to the fridge and you hear the break, it came back on, you look. What am I missing?

I think it's Layla who says this and it's perfect. It's free for you. It's not free for us. So that's the way the world works. There's a little opportunity cost, folks. You learn that in economics classes in high school. That's where I learned that phraseology. Anyhow, the Grammys last night, all sorts of good stuff. I love, like, the best new artists were awesome last night. Alex Warren. Olivia Dean, who actually won the award, is unbelievable. What a great talent she is.

Trevor Noah hosting, as many people know, Bad Bunny, who sometimes could be a Bad Bunny. He was performing, no, he was not performing last night. He'll be performing at the Super Bowl. So Trevor Noah had this fun little back and forth with Bad Bunny last night because there's a rule that you can't perform before the Super Bowl. So here's what down between comedian Noah and Bad Bunny. No, I'm like, man, I wish I had, you know, I should have taken more photos, like, whenever, like, of everyone, you know, I should have given more hugs and more kisses whenever I could have, you know.

I hope none of these people move away. And, like, if I get drunk tonight, I just hope somebody helps me. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Is that my song? English. Wait, what? Bro. Those are, is that what you say? No. Yes. Oh, you say, no, you say it to me, sing it to me then?

Hey! No, I don't know, I don't know, I don't speak Spanish. I don't know, you can't, come on, just a chorus. I almost, you got me, no, no, he can't, bro. All right, I understand, I understand. I won't, I won't bug you, I won't. But, Debbie to try more photos Decoigne Yeah

Yeah David to my bests and abrazo the verses that I'm my

never Mooden and if I'm embarrassed baby don't me aid break a band

Yeah Bad bunny Bad buddy Yeah they didn't really trying to mess with his Badie is in trouble, the Puerto Rican superstar.

I took a similar approach, gross, because I was in town last night. Our buddy, Luke Canellis, doing his show Sports Sunday on his debut over on NBC 5. Oh, you're doing work there now, huh? My wife always watches the Grammar. She checks it out live, but she's got it on the DVR. Some was already in bed. So I checked out the latter stages of the show. So by the time I got there, it was the kind of the in-memorium portion of things.

was an absolutely spectacular. Lauren Hill was on time. Lauren Hill. Well, we don't know if she's on time for sure. She was on the stage when she was supposed to be. Exactly. There might have been some time to report beforehand that she missed, maybe some sound check she got earlier. It was bad?

Oh, no. It was fantastic. But there's just been this frequency over the last, let's call it 15, 20 years where if you go to a Lauren Hill concert, you got to know Lauren Hill's going to show up late, if at all. And that's been unfortunate because she's got one of the great albums of all time. everybody loves seeing it. At the end of last night

during the immemorial White Clef comes out because they were doing a tribute to Roberta Flack after a tribute to Ozzy Osbourne after a tribute to yeah, DiAngelo was a part of it.

You know, just all the artists we've lost here over the past year and so they brought the house down with killing me softly at then. Like I stood up in my living room once heard White Clef was doing killing me softly I could not get enough of that

because that was a song when they said tribute to Roberta Flack and you see Lauren Hill You know what it is. You know what's coming. So there's just this build up to it throughout. So yeah, I was ready for that. One more thing from the Grammys worth playing to you.

Share. Share. She's classic. Share's up there. That's my share. Wow. Snap out of it. That's my share from Moonstruck.

Snap out of it. That's it. That's all I got. Share was up there trying to, attempting to. present the award for record of the year. And the Grammy goes to, they told me it was going to be on the prompter. She forgot that it's in the envelope.

Andrews! No! No. No, I don't believe Luther is with us. Luther's no longer with us. On R.I.P. Luther Vandros, it was supposed to go to Kendrick Lamar. Luther.

The song. The song by the great Kendrick Lamar, who was one of the stars of the night. Siza. And Sizah. Don't forget about Siza. Never forget about Siza. Went to a Luther...

Sorry, see, now you got me doing it. Kendrick Lomar. Went to a Kendrick Lamar concert. And you hated it. I didn't hate it. You loved the show, but you didn't need the people. There's a lot of people. Kendra Lomar and Siza, and people didn't understand it was Kendrick Lamar and Sizzah.

Not like Sizzah as a underact. It was just as much Siza as it was Kendrick Lamar, which I love Sizzas. So it didn't bother me, but there were a lot of Kendrick Lamar fans who were like, eyes is still singing. How many hits does Kendrick Lamar even have? So, I mean, is he really in a position to do him? Yeah, Kendrick Scott. He's got a pretty good.

He's not new. Like, Kendrick Lamar hits even before this blast of Kendrick Lamar too. Even before he was beating Drake down. We're going to be all right, okay? Us three, we're going to be all right. That's FM Grody right there. Yeah, FM Grody. That's FM Grody.

We're going to be all right. We're going to be all right. I wasn't ready for the U saying we're going to be a eye. And it would probably blow you away to hear that. I love that song. Oh, my goodness. I work out to it. Rahimi, Harris, and Grotie, Big Ant.

Thank you so much. You can hang out as long as you want. No, I'm good. Okay, get the hell out. Hey, listen to Five on it. You can pick apart our opinions and tell us what we got wrong next time you're on. You'll likely get a voice text. We'll get a text.

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