Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Best of the Bears: Chicago bolsters defense on opening day of free agency

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

In the Best of the Bears on 104.3 The Score, Tribune reporter Brad Biggs joined the Mully & Haugh Show to share insight on Chicago's additions on the opening day of NFL free agency; Mike Mulligan and ...David Haugh debated whether the Bears are better now and pondered what moves might come next; and ESPN analyst Benjamin Solak joined the Spiegel & Holmes Show to discuss how newly acquired safety Coby Bryant will fit into Chicago's defensive scheme.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Thanks, everybody. The Bears. You're listening to the best of the Bears. He's it for the touchdown. And the Chicago Bears have taken the league. A weekly mix of 670, the score's best NFL talk to get you ready for game day. It's Biggs Talks football with you. And it is Chicago's 104-3, the score.
Starting point is 00:01:04 And we are delighted to welcome in. The football man of the Chicago Tribune. He's a longtime contributor to the station and a valued friend. It is Brad Biggs, and he joins us on the Plumbers 9-1-1-hotline plumbing emergency. Call 1833 Plum 9-1-1-Local 130 plumbers get the job done right the first time. I want to give a shout out to everyone watching us on CHSN. Got proudly wearing the hoodie today. Nice hoodie.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Nice quarter zip. Quarter zip. I forget where I got it. It may have been you. Okay. I may have stolen it from your little locker. No, you gave me one. I gave it to you.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Thank you, buddy. And Big Zay. Morning, Brad. Morning, boys. What's going on? Well, it seems like there's a lot of activity. A lot of things happening. The Bears are different team this morning.
Starting point is 00:02:06 we're trying to read between the tea leaves. Does the arrival of one player mean another player's not coming back? How do you kind of look at it when you seemingly have replacement players coming in? Yeah, I mean, that's not always the case, but generally that's kind of what happens. Like, for instance, at the safety position, I would have to believe the arrival of Kobe Bryant makes that unlikely Kevin Byard would resign with the
Starting point is 00:02:42 Bears and I think I've been pretty adamant all along. I don't think there's a there's a future with your organization for Jaquan Bristker. I think they're moving on there. I think the most likely scenario is they
Starting point is 00:02:55 certainly had some more players at the position. Elijah Hicks could come back. Maybe they look for a kind of a low budget backup teams type guy. And then you're hoping to find your next safety that can be here for a while in the draft or I would imagine they are. What did you make about the emphasis about the linebacker position?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Devin Bush comes in. They just re-sign DeMarco Jackson. They feel like now they have a starting core of linebackers. And Devin Bush is a cheaper version, a smaller version, maybe a faster version of Tremaine Edmins. He is a good off-the-ball linebacker. Yeah, Bush is a guy who kind of got his career restarted a little bit. Former first-round pick of the Steelers who, after four years in Pittsburgh, I think, was pretty widely considered a bust, right? Like, he drafted into a good defense there.
Starting point is 00:03:59 He didn't play at a high level, but he had a lot of splash plays for the game. the Browns this past season. You talk about three interceptions, two of them that he took back for touchdowns, eight pass breakups, a couple forced fumbles, got in on a couple sacks, tackles for loss. So you saw him really start to show up for the Browns this past season. The speed is there. Certainly doesn't have the height or length that Edmunds possessed.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I agree. He might be faster. I think instincts wise that he's not great. But again, he's getting better since he started his career in Pittsburgh. He's been durable for the most part. So, DeMarco Jackson, Devin Bush, T.J. Edwards, when he's healthy, maybe they draft a linebacker. they've kind of overhauled that position. I think you've got to go where there's guys that you like and can help you
Starting point is 00:05:12 and guys that sort of fit your pay structure, right? We saw some, I mean, we saw some big money go around for defensive line than yesterday. What, Quitty Pay got a $16 million a dollar a year deal. Some of these guys on the defensive line that got paid, you looked at it and you're like, holy smokes, maybe I need to adjust my thinking in a significant way what a middle of the road edge rusher is like on the open market, like what that costs,
Starting point is 00:05:49 because it's a lot. Your thoughts on Neville Gallimore, does bringing him in change anything? Is this just a guy that, that they like at a good price that can hold up a little. Is he big, big bills replacement? Yeah, I think he's a pro that can help them play the run that has experience.
Starting point is 00:06:22 He's a guy that's been super durable. I think he's missed four games over the past four seasons at a spot where they had to have guys. Like you knew they were going to sign a defensive tackle and free agency. at this time yesterday they had two of them on the roster. So they had to get some help. Gallimore's got a little more disruption to his game, I think, than Andrew Billings. And so he's a guy that in the rotation probably falls between, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:50 450, 525 snaps over the course of the season. If he's healthy and all things are equal, they still have need at that position. everyone knows they have needed defensive end. And as I wrote this morning, fortunately, you know, it's a pretty deep draft for edge rushers. What's going on with the Trey Hendrickson market around the league? I know the Bears appear to be out of that. And when the second wave or maybe third wave of free agency begins, Brad, is that where
Starting point is 00:07:25 you might see the Bears take a chance on an aging or older pass rusher who might be a situational guy. Yeah, I mean, people that were blown away with the idea of Trey Hendrickson when I was in Mobile, and that was a while back, but some thought maybe a one-year deal for him. So I wonder if the market's just not there like he expected. I said he yesterday, the guy going in a year 10 for what the bears have got going on right now, isn't or hasn't been viewed as a particularly good rundown player
Starting point is 00:08:06 which I don't think that's a fit for where the bears are at is they try to build this thing up and I know everybody wants to go absolutely all in every single season but I don't see that happening now you know what shakes out for some of these other guys like Bradley Chubbs out there right I guess you kind of have to monitor and see exactly where the market is,
Starting point is 00:08:35 but they need to draft a guy. They need to have success drafting a guy. They need to have a clear path to playing time for a guy that they draft and see where it goes from there. Eventually they've got to stop trying to solve the pass rush issue via means that aren't draft picks because it's just, it's so expensive. You look at what the Ravens had to pay for Crosby. You look at Jalen Phillips got a $30 million a year deal from the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And he's a nice player, right? 30 million bucks. What are the chances that in two years, when he's halfway through that deal, people in Carolina are going to take a step back and say, yep, this has been money well spent. Again, it could happen, right? It could happen. But what are the chances and what would it take? I don't know the answer, but that's a lot of money to be. pay for a guy who
Starting point is 00:09:51 he hasn't had nine sacks in a season. Brad, you told us that the Bears could sign Braxton Jones back and that that could be kind of a stopgap move, a guy that needs to
Starting point is 00:10:07 do something to get back on the free agent market and the Bears need someone to cover that spot. It seems like a very perfect marriage, as you pointed out, and they did it. So, as he's he now the starting left tackle? Is he in competition for that spot? How do you look at it? Have they resolved or have they been able to kind of build a bridge at that position? Yeah, I think you're looking
Starting point is 00:10:37 at a situation where he's going to have to compete with Theo Benedet, but this is kind of a move that made sense all along. And I know some people aren't blown away, but if, you're going to have to compete with Theo Benedet, but If Braxton Jones can play this season at the level he was at in 2024 pre-injury, it's going to be money very well spent for the Bears. It'll be a bargain at what they're paying them when you consider the resources required to bring in left tackles. So if he could simply be at that pre-injury level of 20, 24, the Bears, I believe, will be very happy with the results. And he should be able to get himself, I think, physically in a really good spot this
Starting point is 00:11:35 offseason where he's not rushed, where he's not pressured, so to speak, and can just get his body right. So when he gets out there on the field, he's comfortable. he's not having to compensate for anything and he can give it a shot. But you're not handing him the job, but I think a competition with Theo Benedet and then certainly focusing on
Starting point is 00:12:03 probably more defensive acquisitions with some of the high picks in the draft. What happens today? What are they looking for and is wide receiver on the list? Yeah, at some point, You've got to add some wide receivers. Don't forget about Jay Walker. And I wouldn't hand him.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Just as I said, I wouldn't hand something to Braxton Jones. I wouldn't hand it to him. So you've got to have some competition there. But if they ended the season feeling pretty good about them, I don't know that you've got to go out and get a whole lot of household names at the wide receiver position to fill in a round. and kind of build that room out. Like I said yesterday,
Starting point is 00:12:53 I'm curious what happens at the cornerback position. If you've got some levels of concern about the pass rush, you better feel pretty good about the guys you got on the outside in coverage. Does that mean they're comfortable with Tyreeks Stevenson being a full-season starter opposite Jalen Johnson? Is there a possibility to Sean Wright? is resigned, where's the number for him going to be, or is it some other player? Because we saw this past season, you have to have depth at the cornerback position. And with Wright, being a guy who was
Starting point is 00:13:36 on the field for 97% of the snaps, if he's not brought back, you've got to find somebody else to bring him in. Are you surprised there was no market for him, apparently? I mean, I'm not surprised that he wasn't a hot item out there just because he's a really, like, different evaluation in that it's one season. Like, there's really not anything to go off of from the first three years of DeShan Wright. He's very scheme-specific, too. So there's going to be some teams that, quite frankly, he's probably not a consideration for. So that doesn't really surprise me. We'll still see some multi-year deals today.
Starting point is 00:14:25 There'll be a handful of them. But pretty soon, guys, this is going to turn to just a bunch of one-year contracts for people. Case Keenum coming back to be the third quarterback, presumably. Is there any activity in the Tyson Baygent market where you surprise at all that Keenum is coming back? No, they really thought that he helped out with Caleb and brought a lot to that room. In terms of pageant, I think one of the initial things I said to you guys was, you know, of the teams doing their diligence on that position looking for a starter, you've got to consider a multitude of options. And was Bayesian then or now plan A for any of those teams?
Starting point is 00:15:18 And I don't know the answer to that question. I would kind of guess no, but maybe he's playing B for someone. So it's going to take somebody really driven to bring him in because there's not a lot of tape of him. The Bears talk about how much they like him, and you understand that. other teams are going to look at it and say maybe we don't have a ton to go off of here. So I would imagine Tyson stays in place, but you never know.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Anything really surprised you yesterday? I mean, Lyndonbaum got paid a lot of money. The leak Willis winds up replacing two signs with Atlanta, Kenneth Walker, ends up signing with Kansas City. That was interesting. Anything jump out at you? I mean, the Raiders went wild, right? Not just the Linderbaum.
Starting point is 00:16:25 They were super active in Las Vegas. And you wonder how that's going to be viewed like 18 months from now. You get through the middle of the 2027 season. What's that going to look like? And maybe it looks pretty good. You know, maybe Linderbom certainly still probably going to be as good as it gets at that center position. But some of the other guys that they brought in, you know, there's a reason why you have a certain group that tries to avoid the activity that went on yesterday. Take a look, guys.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Philadelphia, I believe, Green Bay, Jacksonville, Denver, and San Francisco. Seattle, I don't think any of those clubs have signed a free agent from another team. And we know that Seahawks won the Super Bowl, Broncos reached the AFC title game, and, you know, Jacksonville Green Bay in Philadelphia, we're all right last season as well. So when you get the program rolling, you try to become, you're, you try to become, really selective and free agency. We didn't see the Bears attempting to win the offseason yesterday, which I think is a good thing.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Because, again, it's just, it's so hard to turn free agent signings into a youth members, guys who, you know, you get a real return on your money from. So I like the Kobe Bryant edition. I'm curious with Devin Bush. And now the Bears have got a little more work to do, but for them to get big momentum this offseason, for them to find that springboard that propels them to better things, it's about the draft, and it was about the draft once the last season ended.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Like, that's where they've got to add to this thing again and get some building blocks, especially for that defense where they need more young talent guys that they can develop and then take advantage of those cost-controlled contracts. So you're dealing with sticker shock, look at what you've got to pay to bring in some guys that you're like, yeah, he's okay. But again, $16 million a year for quidipay. And I'm not trying to knock him. I know he's been a decent player in the league.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I think he's kind of middle of the road at that position, and that just goes to show you what you've got to pay on the open market. Great stuff, Bigsy. Thank you. Thanks, Brad. Good stuff. Have a great day, guys. It's Pick Six with Mullian Hall, where we debate the top six sports stories of the day
Starting point is 00:19:43 and then open it up to you, the Chicago sports fan. Call us at 312-644-67. Or you can tweet your thoughts at Mully Haugh. Pick Six with Mully and Haw starts now. Pick Six, brought to you by Sloan, the leader in Smartwater and commercial restroom solutions. Your Bears went to work yesterday signing three new defenders with a big increase in speed and help at all three levels of the defense. We'll get to the individual players in a minute.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Are the Bears better team this morning, would you call it a good start? what should be the next move? Yeah, you know, I think that the next move can't be made until you get into the draft in terms of, you know, you want them to come out of this thing with help on the pass rush. And I don't know that they're going to legitimately get big time help in the pass rush until they get into the draft. It feels like that will be the area where it's taking.
Starting point is 00:20:50 taken care of. So I think they got to keep grinding away. I don't know that the big ticket items are finished or not in free agency. I find it interesting that they did lose some players. There was interest in some guys, but there are some of their own free agents that did not seemingly sign immediately. So you see what kind of market they might. have and whether or not they might come back to you, how you've got to make sure that you have evaluated them and there are guys that you're open to and guys that you're not. And I think that they could be, they brought back a lot of their own players, you know, in terms of like Daniel Hardy and we mentioned Braxton Jones.
Starting point is 00:21:46 And, you know, they're doing a decent job of kind of balancing. to Marco Jackson. They're bringing back some players. It seems like they've gotten out of the linebacker game right now. Seems like they've got enough at linebacker to get to camp. They're going to need more bodies,
Starting point is 00:22:04 obviously, at a lot of different positions. But I think that it feels like the defensive line, the big upgrades will come via the draft. Well, they were busy. They were way busier than I thought they would be. I did not see
Starting point is 00:22:20 all this coming in the first, what, nine hours of this, eight, eight hours of this, starting with the linebacker that happened while we were on the air, retaining one of their guys. And then, you know, we're going to get into individuals, but, you know, the day kind of ended with Braxton Jones. But, Mully, to your point, you know, Edge is still a thing. And we talked about some of these guys yesterday. I mean, Trey Hendrickson's still out there. Why is Trey Hendrickson still out there? Does he want too much do Ramee? Is that what's holding teams back? Too much guaranteed. Joey Bose is somebody that you mentioned is out there. Bradley Chubb, another guy that is out there. So we also had some fun with it, but in all serious,
Starting point is 00:22:59 that there was so much activity yesterday that I think mock drafts have to be redone. That means Ryan Poles has to go back to his draft simulator last night or this morning and put all this information in or have somebody else do it for him, and then get out, okay, where might some guys land. Who would be the best guys available at positions of need at 25? And that might be how you play out the rest of free agency. Are they going to go get? Is there a corner worth getting? Do they need, you know, is Byard coming back? Has he been replaced? I think we talked about wide receiver. That doesn't have to be a big ticket item, but it's got to be one of those guys, you know, the old no rock, no block. They need another one of those guys on this team. How about a guy who
Starting point is 00:23:44 stretches the field a little bit. So still work to be done, but I think they're better today. I think they're better today than they were Sunday night, Monday morning. Well, I think we're not even 24 hours into free agency. So it's very premature to conclude anything. But if the question is, are they better now than they were before free agency started at the end of the season? I don't think you can say resoundingly yes.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I'm not sure you can say yes at all. because the quality of the player that walked out the door has not been matched by the guys you're welcoming in to Hallis Hall. DJ Moore, Tremaine Edmonds, Nishon Wright, Drew Dalman, Kevin Byard. Those are five guys that are tough to replace. They had some good players yesterday. There was a lot of activity. I don't know yet if it's accomplishment.
Starting point is 00:24:34 That's not meant to be critical or real demanding. That's just a fact. You just don't know what you have in terms of how all these guys fit together. We'll go by and through them. individually and there was not that one big rush end. There wasn't that one big left tackle. There wasn't that one big player. They did not make a splash. They did cause a ripple. Your roster is deeper.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Is it better? What it did was it forced you now to go into the draft as things look to be headed. You'll go into the draft not necessarily best player available, best defensive player available, or maybe you go in thinking need. based on yesterday adding Braxton Jones back the other moves that they made, I would think that your priorities did shift. You don't have a rush end
Starting point is 00:25:22 and you might draft a center. Those to me might be the two guys along with defensive tackle that are at the top of the draft. The other thing is Kevin Byard, I don't know, honestly. You're not supposed to say that. We're supposed to be involved here.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Even on the Biggs, if we talked to him at 7 o'clock, may not know this. Is Kevin Byard definitely out? or do you look at Kobe Bryant, who was a cornerback in college, won the Thorpe Award, has played nickel role in the NFL. Could he pair with Kevin Byard as two very versatile athletic safeties? Kevin Byrd, if you're slowing down, could you become more of a closer to the line of scrimmage guy
Starting point is 00:26:00 that can tackle and make a play there? Fair question. But I think that also reflects this is a state of flux right now. Yesterday was a good start, but it was only that a start. And the Browns may have a chance for a pick six Bush, and Devin Bush will score. Devin Bush, pick six is the Bears' new linebacker trio of Devin Bush, DeMarco Jackson, and T.J. Edwards, an improvement.
Starting point is 00:26:28 If so, in what way? Were you surprised they emphasized that position? Improvement with the salary cap, they got two linebackers for the price of one. Germaine Edmonds was a $15 million salary cap casualty, I believe. And in those two linebackers, the Marco Jackson and Devin Bush, it doesn't necessarily even meet what he was making. So you got a two for one here. And in Devin Bush, you got a player that is explosive, does increase your speed on defense. They needed to do that.
Starting point is 00:27:00 It gives you a player that was at one point the 10th overall draft pick. Yes. of the Pittsburgh Steelers. For whatever reason, hasn't necessarily played up to that level, but he certainly has that capability. And they must think they can coach him up. DeMarco Jackson, I think, is just a guy that's going to be a tackle machine. He has proven himself capable of being good enough to be the NFC defensive player
Starting point is 00:27:25 of the week, as he was one week last year. T.J. Edwards, you hope he comes back from an injury, the same player that it left. That's a very good linebacker trio, very good in terms of having different skill sets, they complement each other. I don't know if they're all three be on the field at the same time unless it's a short yard of situation. But the second level of the bear's
Starting point is 00:27:44 defense is in good hands. Agreed. This room is better. There's a guy where you got a guy out the door and I think the guys that came in and it's really only Devin Bush. You brought to Marco Jackson back. He had the opportunity to go somewhere else but he was with the Bears and he
Starting point is 00:28:00 remains a bear. Devin Bush really fast, really athletic. I just hope he fits in. He's got a little CJ Gardner Johnson in him, right? He's a guy that likes to mix it up, if you will. Maybe that's what Ben wants. Maybe Ben Johnson's looking for that type of guy. So I do think the bears are better at linebacker
Starting point is 00:28:23 this morning than they were the day before. Yeah, I think you're not given enough credit to to Tremaine Edmonds as a linebacker. I think he was a pretty good linebacker. It's pretty extraordinary that he got paid by the Giants. You know, obviously not only does he go there, but they give him some money, and they give him good money for a guy that was, you know, cut by a team as a salary cap saving. So congratulations to him for making more money.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I agree that Devin Bush has a chance to be a really impactful player with the Bears. I think that I think their linebacking core looks pretty good. You know, they don't really need another linebacker right now. They got still Noah Sewell, right? And he's relatively young.
Starting point is 00:29:19 How old is he? He's like 23, 24 years old? Next year is going to be tough for him. Oh, I'm just saying. And he's coming off an injury. That's it. And then you got Ruben Hippolyte. I'm just talking generally
Starting point is 00:29:30 about the depth of the core. You know, you got three starters. that look like pretty good players. And we'll find out how they end up using all of them, how any of them improve or don't fit in or don't make the team. We'll find out. But it looks like they have more depth than they did improve on that area of the ball just because they have live, healthy bodies there.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Then here's the big question. That's the voice of Coach Wonstadt, joining Mullian Hall at 825 this morning. How surprised were you that the bear's first big move was free agent safety, Kobe Bryant. You expect him to be a big drop off from Kevin Byard? Yeah, I don't. I mean, I think he's a really good young player, and I think he brings a lot of juice with him. He's got huge energy.
Starting point is 00:30:30 You know, Kevin Byard is a good player, and I don't want to do. dismiss his leadership capability and the fact that he made so many big speeches. But the reason that he had a great year is because he got the ball and he did a great job. I think we watched him get two interceptions on basically the same play in a game that were, for lack of a better term, kind of study interceptions. They were moves that were made because he had looked at tape and he understood where they were going with the ball. beat the receiver to the spot.
Starting point is 00:31:08 He's a really good, talented football player, but he is, he did, we wondered earlier in the year if he was slowing down a little bit, and that's what happens with veteran guys. Obviously he had a great year, and I like him a lot,
Starting point is 00:31:24 but this is a really young, lively, fast, he's a different style of player. I really, I rate Kobe, Brian, I really think he can play and I think he did a great job with that
Starting point is 00:31:41 Seattle team and I think he'll do a good job in Chicago. Yeah, I think they're different. I think you guys have talked about it this morning the fact that Kobe came in as a corner, can play free, can play strong. I thought the analysis of Kobe from the afternoon show's guest was really interesting about how fast he can come up and get in the box, if you will,
Starting point is 00:32:03 play that in a not afraid to stick his head in. Some cornerbacks don't like contact. This guy seems to like contact. Listen, Kevin Byard was a ball hawk. But Kevin Byard also gave up some big plays. He wasn't always in the right place at the right time. But he brings maybe an unmeasurable thing from where we sit, which is what he seems to bring to that locker room, what he brings to Hallis Hall, what he brings to the field in the form of leadership. But he still, he still, So his leadership wasn't enough for somebody to maybe overpay for him on day one. So this might be a way to get him back because the rest of the league said, yeah, you're a nice player, but not nice enough that I had to run out and get you on day one.
Starting point is 00:32:48 So we'll see. I think this is an upgrade at this position. Raise my hand, I was very worried about this position going into this part of the NFL period. They didn't have anybody. They literally didn't have a guy. they've got a really good guy. I think this is a really good start at replacing the safeties for the bears. I think he's a he's a playmaker. Play speed is improved. You're going to
Starting point is 00:33:15 play faster and he's younger. Certainly there's some upside there. I'd be careful to conclude I'm not going to necessarily project that this is an automatic upgrade because you're talking about a guy that was an all-pro safety led the NFL in interceptions. It's hard to upgrade that. And so Kevin Byard, has some value that go beyond, it goes beyond just the intangibles. He was great as a leader because we heard from him often, but he also made plays that I think surprised some of us that thought that his best days were behind him, wasn't always the most willing or capable tackler, but he also got the job done more often than not. And until a football voice from Hall explains that he's not coming back or that they
Starting point is 00:33:58 can't play with two guys that are essentially free safety types in today's NFL, I'm going to wonder. I'm going to wonder if Kevin Byard might be. Kevin Byrd and Jaquan Brisker are on the open market. I think Bristker, you talk to some people around the league, and maybe he overestimated his market value. He's still out there. And I think he would be interested in returning.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I don't know if the Bears are, you know, feel the same way. Kevin Byard, they might be very interested in him returning, but it has to be the right price. I think this is a stay tuned type of a thing. Kobe Bryant and him, the Bears have just a guy that is a leader, is a disruptor and is versatile and he's fast. So these are all very good things to have in your secondary. It's an interesting question.
Starting point is 00:34:42 That is Mike Floreo talking to Mullen Haw at 9. Does the addition of Colts defensive tackle Neville Gallimore on a two-year, $12 million deal do a whole heck of a lot for you? Is he effectively a guy to replace Andrew Billings as they run stuffer? Is he good enough to replace Big Bill? I don't know that he is. I don't know that that's just. just what he does. He's probably
Starting point is 00:35:04 one of these guys, if you had to classify him, was a Dennis Allen guy, a guy that gives you a little bit more versatility. His numbers, the metrics probably show that he's better rushing the passer from the inside than he
Starting point is 00:35:20 is stopping the run. And he's one of those guys that will probably use in a, you know, not all the time, not a full-time starter, but somebody that you hope if he stays healthy can be in a rotation, with Jervon Dexter and if he can stay healthy, Grady Jarrett. Maybe Turner comes back.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Shemar Turner comes back. Maybe that's something that you look at him being part of that mix. Replacing Andrew Billings, Andrew Billings was a very underrated aspect and part of that bare defense. They didn't stop the run very well, but I don't think it was because of Andrew Billings. He'll be missed. And I don't know if Neville Gallimore is going to be able to adequately replace him, even though he'll get a lot of opportunity.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Now, just like we talked about a couple of questions ago, specifically the last question, but it's come up a couple. Are we sure that Andrew Billings is gone like Kevin Byard is gone or not going? I mean, I'm saying, couldn't you have two of these guys? It's not like they paid this guy $10 million a year, and they weren't great against the run. What would it be like if you had both of those guys in the middle? And I'm just saying, I know when you look at film, it's kind of like an audition tape, right? the film that's out there, especially on a position like this, guy hustles, guy moves down the field,
Starting point is 00:36:38 seems to have a motor that Billings just, frankly, doesn't have. Like, you don't see Billings getting much farther away from, I don't know, eight yards around the center, you know? And as Olin would say, the farther you get away from football, the less you know about football. But I think this is all right. I think this is all right. Andrew's good at times, but he's not on the field a whole heck of a lot.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So this is I have to wait and see. They got to know more than I do, but I don't think it's a bad move. And I wonder if both guys are still here. Another question for Biggs at 7. Yeah, you know, I don't know if you even need to make any conclusions about that sort of thing. I think that, you know, what you can do is you can always filter through and see. where people wind up. You can always tell people as they're leaving
Starting point is 00:37:37 the building, hey, let us know if things don't work out, maybe we can come to a good price and we can talk it through. You know, you leave the door ajar for different players. And, you know, some people are
Starting point is 00:37:52 pursued heavily and other people may be back even though it looks like they've been replaced. And they may be back in a different role. That's just the reality of it. But as long as you're not closing the door on anyone, I think that anybody that doesn't sign a contract that could come back, anybody that doesn't get the kind of interest they were anticipating or you may have been anticipating.
Starting point is 00:38:21 You know, they set up their salary cap and they decide who they're going to invest in. It just comes down to, hey, we'd be happy to have you back at this price. and if it's not the right price, then you move on. So I don't know what those conversations were, and I know we're not supposed to say that, but we don't really have the information on how they feel about every player and what their hope is for their availability or how that plays out. So it's a difficult – we will ask Bigsy about it,
Starting point is 00:38:53 but you are right. It is a difficult thing. You know, Neville Gallimore does. not appear to me to be a big time signing and certainly a two-year $12 million deal would indicate that he is not a big time signing. It would appear that he is probably, you know, a guy that can play in rotation, play a couple of downs, but I don't know that he is your starting run stuffer or that he would help you in the past rush department. In fact, what do you have, three and a half sacks?
Starting point is 00:39:34 I think, something like that a year ago. They're not saying he got close a lot, and this could be the guy that happened once with a guy who came from the cults, but let's not hold that against him. So, yeah, you keep bringing in things you like about different players, and then you eventually wind up with the team. but it's another important position. I don't think this stops them from continuing to sign people or draft people, but it's a good position to have addressed.
Starting point is 00:40:08 All righty, we're going to be right back with the pick six. We're in the midst of it. It is Mully and Hall on the score. Chicago in Odyssey Sports Station. Spiegel and Holmes, afternoons on the score. Ben, I call him Ben Solac, but his name's Benjamin Solac. Noted Eagles fanboy. Coming up on this podcast, Ben Solac.
Starting point is 00:40:39 We have Ben Solac. He's one of these sick pups. He's one of these nitty-gritty. We're talking roster construction. We're talking free. He's one of those people who loves the chaos. This is required reading, I think, for all of us here, to be honest with you. Ben Solac here on The Rich Eisen Show.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Ben Solac, as he has been joining me all season long. The top of the bilk himself. Benjamin Solek is here. My favorite free agent safety in his class, Kobe Bryant, out of Seattle. I think he's all been in a bag of chips. X corner, and you see that in terms of how he plays. Roger, Stoutfield, looking for Austin, picked off by Kobe Bryant. Rush four, and he's in there, fires over the middle of him.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Oh, it's picked at the 32-yard line. Rosmer, let's interrupt, two-trial and picked off by Kobe Bryant. First down in 10, and Rashad White, drilled in there initially by Kobe Bryant. Spiegel and Holmes. Afternoons on the score. What? Let's talk with Ben Solac about what the bears have done and what they haven't done thus far. He joins us here on the Spiegel and Home Show.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Benjamin, thanks so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. So let's talk about Kobe Bryant because we've been trying to figure out where he's going to play. is he a free safety or strong safety because he's kind of done a little bit of both. And does that mean that Kevin Byard isn't coming back to the Bears? My guess is he'll play more in the box. Now, this is a combo player, right? The value and the attraction of this guy is that he can do everything for you, right?
Starting point is 00:42:11 So if you want to play him deep middle, you can play him deep middle. He's not the rangers guy. He's not going to cover ground the way Byard covers ground, but he can get it done. I say I like a better in the box because I think he does best, his play from depth to talk about coming downhill, right? being able to, you know, trigger on the screens and on the quick throws. He has a lot of throws at or near the line of scrimmage because how fast he is downhill. The Seahawks would, you know, fit the run a lot by asking him to kind of drive and be the last player in the box.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And he made a lot of those tackles wall coming downhill. Very, I think, impactful tackle, a lot of stopping power, right? Don't get a lot of dirty yards out for contact when it comes to Kobe Bryant. So my guess is going to be that he plays more in the box. But Dennis Allen wants to be a DC going back to his Saints years that has combo safeties, that has two guys who can do everything. last year just because of Brisker's skill set and Bayard skill set, you saw them be a little bit more free safety and strong safety,
Starting point is 00:42:59 a little bit more deep-middle safety and box safety. And so I would guess that if they're sticking with bringing one of their safeties back, it's Byard and then Brian plays in the box. But you also might see them just go for two new safeties completely and try to be a lot more kind of versatile and multiple between those two players. All right. Well, that was awesome. I hope that our listeners caught every bit of that and swim around in that answer and that info in that context, Ben,
Starting point is 00:43:22 because Dennis Allen likes hybrids. He's always kind of liked hybrids. And when he had Kyler Gordon and C.J. Gardner Johnson available to him last year, he moved everybody around. He's one of those guys who says, like we've heard coaches say it a million times, just give me the best five or six and I'll figure it out. But he actually means it. So all options are still here.
Starting point is 00:43:45 How would it work with him and Byard? Because Byard played a very important role, not just with all the picks, but really as a leader and as kind of a culture setter. So I and others would really like Bayard back. How would it function with Byard and Kobe Bryant together if that is the case? So you would see Kobe spread the majority of his time in the box and Byrd spent his majority of time up high. They would not have the full like, you know, the Sealks had with Kobe Bryant
Starting point is 00:44:10 and with Julian Love where it's, hey, you never know who's coming down, who's not. Everybody can do everything. It'd be a little bit more like the Eagles with Vig Fangio, where they had Reed Blankenship and then they had, you know, at times it was Johnson Garner, Johnson, that it was Andrew McCuba, but it was, hey, like, you know, Reed is the player, we'd prefer to have deep.
Starting point is 00:44:26 The other guy, we prefer to have closer line of scrimmage. We can switch it up on you just to give the drop on you, but it's not going to be what we live with. So if they return Byard, which is my expectation, then you're going to see Byard spend the majority of his time as the deepest safety, and Kobe spent the majority of his time near the box. Now, Kobe has cornerback experience. He played at the University of Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:44:44 He was a corner for his first couple years in Seattle before he broke through in Mike's defense. He was on the corner of Jeff chart. That was where he was. And so when you think about the coverage ability that you got from a guy like Chauncey, who plays safety, but really you're trying to play him in the nickel a lot and have him cover receivers, Kobe has that skill set. And that wasn't relied upon a ton in Seattle because they had Devon-Wilisbun and Nicky him on Warwick.
Starting point is 00:45:05 They had so many guys. But you can ask Kobe to be a player who comes down and plays that slot position and then be creative with the safeties that you play behind him as well. Ben Johnson praised the Packers' safeties in ways that caught our ear every time we talked about them. Evan Williams and Xavier McKinney. If that's what he wanted, if that was the ideal, what is, like, does
Starting point is 00:45:28 Kobe Bryant do some of what Evan Williams does? Would Byard fit with that? 100%. Okay. Kobe and Evan Williams are extremely similar stylistically, where both these guys are very high impact safeties against the run. And specifically, we're not talking about, you know, Nick and Munworthy, Kyle Hamilton types, who already lined up
Starting point is 00:45:44 two inches off the line of scrimmage to begin with. We're talking about guys who initially lined up 12 yards off the ball. And then as the ball is being snap, they're moving to 10, the timing the snap. As the run's getting handed off, they're moving to six. It's challenging to come downhill and read at the same time. But if you're going to live in a too high world, you need to have a player who's capable of fitting into the box late and then also adjusting where he fits relative to the run, right?
Starting point is 00:46:05 If you can do those two things at once. Evan Williams is one of the pinnical examples of a player who can do this. And the reason why Ben loves him so much, because as an office of play caller, it sucks to deal with that guy. Because what are you going to, you can't line up as an offensive line and point, okay somebody go get the dude 14 yards off the ball you don't know he's actually coming down or not and so he gets added late in the math
Starting point is 00:46:24 after the ball snap that it's hard to account for him but what Kobe does there's a tackle against Pook and a coupon to jet sweep there's a little tight end screen to Juan Johnson against the Saints he has another one on a Brian Thomas Jr. screen what he does coming downhill reading plays and then going and being the additional fitter
Starting point is 00:46:40 extremely fast is very reminiscent of Evan Williams so that's the exact sort of vibe you're looking for Ben it was kind of a shock last week to see Drew Dalman retired And I know that when the bears acquired Garrett Bradbury, you tweeted a little bit about it. You were fairly critical. And I love that. What are the things that you think about Bradbury and what's in your mind maybe the drop-off between Dalman and Bradbury?
Starting point is 00:47:06 So it's tricky. Bradbury is just a guy who the strengths are known and the weaknesses are known. And especially the weaknesses are known in the NFC North, right? That's where he was when he was with Minnesota. And so if you can get power on Garrett-Brabber, you can walk him back into the pocket. right and you can really destroy talking about pocket integrity and the ability to kind of like step up and make those those pocket throws you need to have the depth of the pocket set by a center who's holding his water and bradbury just struggles to drop that anchor always has since he was drafted at nc state in the first round the tradeoff the value has typically been where he's such a good mover and he's got such great, you know, wide zone ability and he's great, you know, horizontally and laterally, like, you know, he'll make it worth your time, the juice
Starting point is 00:47:42 would be worth the squeeze. But as he's gone older, you know, that edge starts to diminish a little bit. And so in Bradbury, I think you have a player who is capable of holding down the center job and you know what he's good at when he's not good at. You're going to be able to get to your outside runs. And, and when you have a quarterback like Caleb Williams, depth of the pocket starts to become a little bit less employing because Caleb's out the back door anyway. Like, you know, Caleb's not really a step up guy. Caleb's like, hey, I'm going to run 15 yards back this way and still make a throw. So you a little bit can, you know, account for it and cheese it.
Starting point is 00:48:09 You can boot Caleb out and be successful that way. But the level of investment in Bradbury to me indicates, A, that Ryan Poles had a good sense of how heavy the center market was going. Connor McGovern, 13 million. Tyler Linderbom at 27 million is insane. He didn't want to be a part of that, and rightfully so. So I think, A, he knew which way it was going and he wanted to get a cheap option that could just definitely start for the Bears. And to me, it's also an indication that the Bears might still be looking at the center spot somewhere in the draft. It's a really good year for centers, round three, round four, right? Typically, like,
Starting point is 00:48:38 you know, it's very rare for like, oh, there's three first round centers. That's not a real thing that never happens. Typically, we talk about good years for center and the draft we're talking about middle round prospects, and there's several guys this year. And so my guess is going to be that the bears are still willing to invest in the position with a rookie, and then they're going to kind of let Bradbury and the rookie figure it out when it comes to training camp. When you're going through analysis, how much does surrounding players matter? Like, when we're talking about Garrett Bradbury, you have him on a line with guys that when went to Pro Bowls, one guy that was the protector of the year, another guy that was also an all pro.
Starting point is 00:49:09 How much does that add value to a player or is it completely independent when you go and look at these guys? Yeah, I'd love to tell you it's completely independent. I'd be a GM, right? Because I'd be the best player evaluator in the world if it was completely independent, right? A big challenge of this job is being able to isolate these players, talk about them, you know, just individually what they are. And then as they change teams here, plug them back in. say, oh, yeah, it'll be exactly this. The tree you're barking up is the right one, which is that when we talk about offensive line play in the NFL, it's really about your best five, right?
Starting point is 00:49:42 You look at the lines right now. Penny Sewell, best right tackling football. Yeah, but they had a problem. They had a problem because they had guard liabilities, they had a left tackle issue. And it doesn't matter if you got one out of five good guys, you are going to give up pressures, you are going to give up sacks, because this is a holistic unit, especially on the line. We have to look at you guys in totality. And so if Garrett Brabbery ends up being the fifth best offensive linemen for the Bears this season. They're going to have a pretty good line. They're not going to have issues protecting Caleb.
Starting point is 00:50:05 They're not going to have issues running the football. If Bradbury is your floor, that's great. But if left tackles an issue because of the bend of the injury and you don't get to figure that out, and then all of a sudden, you know, you lose Darnall Wright for two months, God forbid it's some sort of an injury. And now Bradbury is your third best lineman. Now that tells you, okay, the overall stock of the group has dropped a little bit. And so, Brad, you know, being the center for the Bears is awesome, dude.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Like, being coached with Ben Johnson, you're playing between Jonah Jackson and Joe Tunney. like, that is a great, great, great gig. Bradbury is more than capable of filling it well. It just is thinner, you know, tougher, a little more fragile than it was with Drew Dolman. And now with the left tackle questions, you got to make sure the bears seal this line down before September. Benjamin Solac, VSPN is with us, breaking down free agency and the Bears moves. All right, so Bradbury is your fifth ranked offensive lineman. Cool.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Who's it left tackle? You mentioned Theo Benedette, the undrafted Canadian, will play. Ozzie Tripillo, they will wait on. We don't know who it is. it together last year. Does that need to be a free agent asset? Could it be a rookie asset with the composition of
Starting point is 00:51:07 this line as it stands? What's best? Yeah. Dude, go trade for Trump Williams. I mean, I don't give a hoot. You know, you got Caleb Williams, you have an unbelievable offense. You were in the division round of the playoffs. Let's make some moves, baby. I would like for them to be able to fill that with a veteran and plug and chugget it, even if
Starting point is 00:51:23 it is a one-year deal, simply because Caleb took such an astronomical leap from his rookie year to his sophomore year in terms of pressure to sac rate his play against pressure, right? I don't need to tell you guys in 2024. Anytime he was pressured, it was a disaster in 2025. Anytime he was pressured, he was a magician, right? I mean, he went from like worst to first in terms of how he played when pressured. I do not want to so quickly challenge that improvement with bad play on the blind side. You know, I don't want to test that. Oh, yeah, we're fine. Now Caleb makes everything work. I'd like for still to, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:54 feel better about my play at that position. It also was the case. last year, if you go and you look at the numbers, you know, pre-buy to post-buy, when they made the switch, you know, Bennett and Trapio, Braxton Jones, they're trying to figure out left tackle. They ran the ball off the right side a lot more. They ran off the left side and a lot more successfully off the right side and they didn't have the left side. Like that Rams game in the first half, I think it was like nine out of 11 of their carries went off the offensive right. Darnel right is such a weapon for you. But you're also hiding your left tackle. And teams are going to get wise to that if you walk into that with next year. And so I would
Starting point is 00:52:23 want to get your mid-tier veteran options. I would be okay with the Taylor Decker one-year thing. I'm not kidding by the Trent Williams. To me, that makes a lot of sense. Neither am I. I'm with you on that. Yeah, to me, I go veteran left tackle. And then maybe you go for a guy in the draft. It's, I would say, it's a good year for developmental tackle prospects. It's not a good year for like
Starting point is 00:52:40 plug-and-chruck starters. And you already have a guy in Trapio who you're trying to develop as it comes off the injury. And so to me, veteran is the move. While we were talking to Ben, his colleague, Adam Schepter, broke the news. The Case Keenum is going to be back on a two-year, five and a half million deal with a max value of $8 million.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Don't enough quarterbacks over there? Well, we were going to save one for the league, man. This is crazy. Well, this is what I wanted to ask you, because there are a lot of people here, including Ben Johnson, who think that the backup quarterback for the Bears could start for other people in Tyson, Bejant. So I'm curious if you've heard anything that makes you believe that someone would trade for Tyson and bring him in to compete for their starting job.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I've heard the same thing that everybody's heard, which is that. that the teams have called the Bears by Bayesian, the Bears value Bayesian quite highly, and there's a big delta right now between what the Bears want and what teams are willing to offer. Now, as more teams get, as more teams lose out, I should say, in the free agent cycle for quarterbacks here,
Starting point is 00:53:40 you see a team like the Jets. If the Jets can't add a young passer somewhere, right? They're going to start making the trade calls Anthony Richardson, Tyson, Bayesian, Tanner McKee, Spencer, Routher, Will Levis. Teams are looking for young quarterbacks right now. A lot of these, the veteran options are the Kirk Cousins and the Gino Smith, who are some older options.
Starting point is 00:53:55 So once Kyler makes his choice, and we kind of see where the quarterback market falls, you can see a couple more teams getting a little bit more desperate for bringing in a young quarterback to compete for the QB1 job, right? The Cardinals can make a trade for a lower three guy. Like I said, the Jets can. The Browns can still make a trade for a guy on a rookie contract. Bejant, though, is older, right? He's already approaching his extension.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And to me, like, I would anticipate other teams are more willing to move off their guys and the bears are willing to move off of Baygent. Because the way the bears seem to value it is Baygent is QB2, is the, the actual guy that they want, you know, in the event that Caleb's hurt for an extended period of time, and they think they can go 500 with him, right? Your goal with your backup quarterback is always, if we have to play four games with them, can we go two and two? And I think they feel they can do that with Bayesian. And then QB3-Kis-Kee-Nam, they view as, you know, quasi-quarterbacks coach. And so to me, like, they have the room construction as they want it,
Starting point is 00:54:40 and it would take, like, actually substantial offer for them to move off of Beijing. So staying on the offensive side, free agent-wide receiver might be back in play. On the low end, they don't need to get involved in the Alec Pierce stuff. He's staying with the Colts anyway, But is there somebody on the lower end who fits in to what Ben Johnson likes to do? Because Alameday Zakiaz is going to be leaving, along with DJ Moore who got traded. Yeah, it's very tricky for me because with Roma Dunzei and Luther Berner as like the clear wide receiver one, wide receiver two, I would say for an average team, you have to get some size of this position here. You have to get a guy who's a little bit bigger and can win the catch point over the intermediate middle and, you know, can be a factor as a blocker.
Starting point is 00:55:23 like you need that body type. Roams, though, is a good pound for pound blocker, but in general, like, you know, let's get a little bit more size here. But then you think about the way that Ben wants to cycle tight ends into the formation, the way he wants to be able to put multiple backs on the field. And it's like, okay, like, how desperately do you need your wide receiver three to actually have that size when you're going to be putting Kemet on the field and you're going to be putting Colson Loveland, who's unbelievable on the field,
Starting point is 00:55:43 like you could probably get away with it. And so Juan Jennings, to me, is the name I keep going back to these teams that want to run the football and involve wide receiver in the blocking game. Like, they all are going to value Juan Jennings. Noah Brown out of Washington is a much more lower tier option. It's good for that. Nick West for Kekine, from the Dolphins now is another good option for that.
Starting point is 00:56:00 That, to me, is the body type I would go for. Other than that, like, if you're not getting a guy with substantive blocking value, I kind of think you're good at wide receiver, just because of how much 12 personnel you're going to want to live in, and because Ben's always going to kind of rotate wide receiver three, wide receiver four, and wide receiver five. I don't think you have to spend big money at that spot. I think you can go for draft prospects,
Starting point is 00:56:19 continue to add speed and be fine if you want to do it that way. Let me ask you a big picture question. this is a copycat league. Things look good for a team. A team has success. Teams go, oh, well, we should try to build something like that. I look at Seattle and go, obviously, you would love to have a pass rush where you can get home with four. That's the ideal way to play football in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:56:39 What are the lessons that people should learn from Seattle? And what are the lessons that people should stay away from? So the lesson to learn is building the defense from the inside out, right? They got extremely serious a defensive tackle. Byron Murphy in the first round, Leonard Williams via trade, who he was before McDonald, but still, like, that defense's a tackle room was critical for them. And then even in the secondary, right,
Starting point is 00:57:01 most of the time in the league, we see you have your two starting outside corners, and sometimes the nickel comes on the field, and sometimes the dime comes on the field. Where in Seattle, they had a safety playing Sam linebacker, and Nicolamoiree, and they had a nickel and Devon Witherspoon, and those dudes never left the field. And if they only needed to have a couple of DBs, they would take the outside corners off.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Tarik Wall and Josh Job, they would put them on the bench. They would move spoon to the outside. And so they, everybody on Seattle's defense at all times was capable of playing close to the core of the formation. And as Bears fans will know, offense has put condensed sets on the field to get guys close to the core of formation who can't tackle, who cannot fit against the run. Like all Ben Johnson wants to do is force your corners into a run fit and then hit him and then hit him and then hit him. Like that's the design here. So Seattle said, okay, screw you, we're going to have 11 dudes, all of whom are comfortable, like, setting an edge,
Starting point is 00:57:48 sticking their nose in there against the fullback. So we are always going to be a sound against the run. even when we're in these light boxes, so on and so forth. And so the model to chase is having that nickel player, having that safety player who can stay on the field for 100% of the snaps, who can moonlight as outside players, but are always comfortable against the run. The lesson not to learn is,
Starting point is 00:58:07 I'll just sign a quarterback and free agency for $30 million a year and go to the Super Bowl. That's not how, like, people are so tempted to be, oh, the mid-year of quarterbacks, like, they're back, baby, this is real, we can do it? It's like, yeah, okay, do you have, like, a super genius, a defensive coach and like you've got 15 dudes on defense you can all play like buddy it the straw that stirred the drink in seattle was that defense it was an historic defense in terms of limiting explosive plays limiting penalties short yards because it was a unbelievable unit but because we're
Starting point is 00:58:34 a quarterback league all we do is we talk about the same don't know chase your middle seal quarterback as much as you want i don't think that's a replicable method for success in the league we've got a bears fan base that is feeling i don't know i guess a little concerned or a little cautious because this time last week, they were dreaming of both Tyler Linderbaum. Well, I guess last week we had Drew Dahlman. So late last week, they were dreaming of Tyler Linderbaum and Max Crosby. Now they're looking at neither. And they might not see a big ticket item.
Starting point is 00:59:03 They might not see a big fish. Trent Williams would qualify as that. But what if the Bears don't do anything massive, but just sort of stay flexible and keep their draft picks and add like that? How would you feel about the offseason in that kind of regard? Good. The thing that I will say, like, I think neither the Linderbaum signing for the Raiders nor the Crosby trade for the Ravens are bad moves for those teams.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I like both moves from both the teams. But it does not take skill to GMing to put more money on the table for Tyler Linderbaum than the other guys or more draft picks on the table. You just add one, okay, 27 million, make it 28. Okay, two first round picks, two first and a third. You know, like, I could do that, man. The skill in building the roster is finding expected value, right? is finding bargain bin options that improve the team, right?
Starting point is 00:59:48 It's like when you cycle out Tremaine Evans for Devin Bush, it's getting that right that really creates an edge for a team there in free agency. Ryan Poles and building this team here, I think rightfully is saying, you know, we want to be aggressive, we want to get top of the market guys, Caleb Williams' rookie quarterback contract window. This is how this works. But it's not going too far over his skis and is remembering rightfully that it is the second tier and the third tier and the fourth tier contracts to get this done.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Everybody likes to talk about Mill and Williams to the Patriots. Yeah, all they did was outpriced the Panthers. It was the one-year deal that gave Cairois Tonga, who then signs for $7 million next year with the Chiefs that really saved their running game. It was the one-year deal for Caleb-on-Chason that gave them a number one pass-rusher when Harold Landry went down, right? The headline deals are always the headline deals, and they're great, and they help the team. There's no two ways about that. But it's the ones beneath that really separate, like the playoff contenders from the Super Bowl contenders.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So you're going to win the margins in the NFL. You always will. Ben, this was delightful, man. you so much for jumping on with us and hopefully we get a chance to talk to you again soon. Appreciate you fellas. Take care now. Thanks, Ben. Yeah, there's some meaty stuff in there, man. Never forget, Kyris Tonga, seventh round pick of the bears. Yeah, it's true. But on the big picture question, like the Seattle, what to learn from it,
Starting point is 01:01:00 I love that answer. And then the big picture about what the bears are doing, which speaks directly to our lead segment and our lead conversation. He's telling you that Ryan Poles is trying to nail all the second tier and third tier contracts and keep themselves malleable for the big fish. Well, they have a lot of room on their roster to add people anyway. It was like 40 spots that they've got to fill on the roster. So there's a lot of work for them to do. They're going to have to sign some of those guys.
Starting point is 01:01:30 I think our goal is to not deify those signings that are clearly like depth moves to like, oh, well, this is the move that's going to put them over the top. It might end up being that, but on its face, It doesn't necessarily have to be. So, like, that's kind of the tricky part of talking about some of this stuff because you can look and go, all right, I see that move. Like, that's a sharp, that could be a really sharp move that they pull off. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Whereas when you're talking about Linderbaum or Max Crosby, like, those are known commodities. And it feels better when your team is doing that. It's interesting, though, because I've seen it via text and inside the chat, that people are now retroactively, like, getting mad about the DJ Moore trade. that you did this and it didn't result in you trading DJ more to the Raiders to get Max Crosby. But I like what Ben said
Starting point is 01:02:22 about the wide receiver room. It's something that we've been talking about. If you have to kind of change the way that your brain works on this. Because Colston Loveland is your number one receiver. And if you think of it that way, it feels like, oh, well, they're making room to give more opportunities,
Starting point is 01:02:40 but there does need to be. a counter punch when teams try to take Colston Loveland away? Well, for sure. And maybe that's Luther Burden designer touches. Hopefully it's a Roma Dunzee a pattern. Maybe it's a go pattern, which with whatever speedy wide receiver they pick up in around three or four. From the way that he was talking about it, what if your top four wide receivers are Roma Dunzee, Luther Burden, Jadee Walker, and a number four from a draft pick to be determined? He was saying that as a flat-out possibility, you know?
Starting point is 01:03:16 I think the Jada Walker stuff is over-discussed, too. He caught six balls last year. I know one of them was huge, but he caught six passes. You want one of those big-bodied free agents he was talking about? I love Joanne Jennings. I think Joanne Jennings can be a player in this league. Will he be happy, though? Because that's a question with him.
Starting point is 01:03:35 This is a moment. On use in offense. Hell no. Yeah. To me, this is a moment for Joanne Jennings to get paid. and to become somebody's number one or at least number two, if not still getting it done out there in San Francisco. Like, he's been putting in some time while they had Debo and then Brandon Ayuk.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And he's just been showing up every week and trying to have big, big games. Kendrick Bourne's also out there as a free agent who had a nice bounce back out there in San Francisco with his buddy Mac Jones. The born identity? Maybe Elijah Surrott in the second or third round out of Indiana. Alex, how would you feel if it's another rookie, as if it's a rookie as your number three to go along. Completely fine.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And that's a shift in mindset for a lot of fans to think about that just give me a really good smart route runner and I will plug him in while Colston is our number one. This is breaking. They just released the comp picks
Starting point is 01:04:30 and the Bears did not get any. So that's finalized, huh? Yeah, I'm seeing Courtney Cronin with the list of compensatory picks, Greg Gabriel, said it as well. Chris, our guy, Chris Emma, says this,
Starting point is 01:04:46 the Bears were not awarded a compensatory draft pick as part of the Ian Cunningham departure for the Falcons GM job. The NFL released its 33 compensatory picks, and Chicago was not included. Let's stay on this.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I know we've got to take a break. Let's keep processing this. No compensatory picks, and the news of the day keeps percolating. We're going to keep you updated all day in day one of NFL free agency. This is supposed to be just the legal tampering phase, whatever the hell they call it. But we're getting signings left and right, breaking news at any moment.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yeah, but the compensatory picks. This is a big deal to Bears fan. So let's spend a little time going back over this. And if you've been listening to this show for the last three weeks, you know how we feel. It's completely unfair. And we'll break you down for those of you who don't understand why. Next, here on the score. Maline Haw, Chicago's number one most listened to Sports Morning Show.
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