Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Danny Parkins & Kendall Gill react to Bulls' trades (Hour 4)
Episode Date: February 4, 2026In the final hour, Leila Rahimi and Marshall Harris were joined by FS1 host Danny Parkins to discuss the Bulls’ direction after they made a pair of trades Tuesday and to preview the Patriots-Seahawk...s matchup in the Super Bowl. After that, Chicago Sports Network analyst Kendall Gill joined the show to discuss the state of the Bulls as they’ve been busy ahead of the trade deadline Thursday.
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but I don't know that I see a path
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Ooh, 1043 The Score for Danny Parkins.
You know Danny's happy to be in FM
today. This is Rahimi Harrison
Grotie on 670 The Score and
1043 The Score, and we announced the
FM thing with Danny. So let's talk
to him now. Danny joins us via the Circa Sports Illinois
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Perkins on X. You can check him out on the newly expanded. First thing's first
OT from 4 to 5 on Fox Sports when. Danny, how are you?
I'm even more handsome in FM. That's what I found. I don't think it works
like that. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. If you run faster and jump higher is what I was told.
Yeah, I think that I think that's what it does, Marshall.
You can take your fancy radio acumen and your television history and your manicured jawline and you say that that's not how it works.
But for those of us over here, I'm much more handsome on the FM.
Oh, my goodness.
And Danny is on Twitch with us at twitch.tv slash the score Chicago.
He's the one wearing a suit and tie.
Yeah, you're the dressed up one here.
That's true.
I just taped an interview with Cooper DeGine.
the Philadelphia Eagles.
Did you ask him about his love life?
You know, she shot it down, so we talked about it a little, but not, no headline there.
I just enjoy that his podcast is called Exciting Mikes, and it's him and Reed Blankenship
off of the Exciting Whites meme, which is my favorite meme on the internet.
And so we talked about that for a while.
I asked if he saw himself as an inspirational figure to young white people who want to grow up and be cornerback.
So you guys can just stay tuned to the OT to hear his answer.
It's pretty spectacular.
That is a great meme, the wine store meme.
It's the greatest.
It's the exotic whites over the exciting whites, but I hear you.
I laugh every time I see the exciting whites meme on the internet.
Like Cooper Flagg with a dunk, exciting whites.
Like it is.
Mac McClung.
I could have.
Mac McClaught. I could have done 10 minutes with Cooper just on excited.
Why hasn't Riley Moss been on your podcast?
Like, is Jason Seahorn a mentor?
I was about to say, shout out to Jason Seahorn and Merrill Hodge.
Yeah, exactly.
He's the first white defensive back to have a sack in the NFL since Jason Seahorn.
I have a research department.
They looked that up.
It's been over 20 years since a white corner got a sack.
They're like, they're like, you want that you want that to be their first question?
to Cooper de Jean? I'm like, yes, I do.
And so, like, that was like the production
meeting that I had this morning was about how
many questions I could get off about exciting whites
and exciting minds. Hold on a second.
Nikki Bella is 20 years older
than men? Oh, you didn't know the story? I didn't realize
she was 42. Yeah, that's what
I asked Danny. Danny knew exactly
what I was going to ask before I asked him.
I do my research. Yeah,
age is just a number.
Until it's your number.
Oh. Hey.
You know, it is what it is.
Shots fired.
I don't judge.
Now, Danny's younger than me.
Danny, like, just turned 40.
I have not yet turned 40.
Oh, wait.
That's right.
But I love that she said it, though.
You were conceived during the 85 Super Bowl.
So, yes, that would mean you haven't turned 40 yet.
Born in October of 86.
So coming up in eight and a half months or so, I will turn 40 this year.
October of this year, I turned 40.
What are you going to do?
I bought myself a trip to Pinehurst.
for me and seven guys were going and doing a four-day,
four-day golf trip at one of the great golf venues ever.
So, yeah, so we're going to go play a lot of golf at, you know,
a place that's in the rotation for the U.S. Open and have some fun with some lifelong friends.
I told my boss is out here.
I was like, I need two days off.
They said when.
I said 365 days from today.
I booked the trip one year out and said,
I'm taking these two days off next August to do the four-day golf trip.
So very excited.
And then next year when like the younger guys in our grade turned 40,
we're going to do Ireland for golf.
So this year, Pinehurst, next year, Ireland.
Love that.
That is a solid plan.
Nice planning skills out of you.
A year-in-advent.
Thank you.
Yeah, Ireland isn't booked yet,
but inevitably I'm going to be the one who has to put that together.
But thankfully, I only work one hour a day, so I have time.
No, because see, even all that research department stuff, that took more than an hour.
No, that's true.
I had to text them to look up if Riley Moss had been on the exciting Mike's podcast.
That's true.
I did have to do this.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a real conversation that I had today with Troy.
I was like, can you find the last way?
Actually, this is how good my researcher Troy is.
I didn't even have to ask him to find out that Jason Seahorn fact.
That was in my inbox at the time.
time of our 10 a.m. show call that the last
white defensive back to have a sack was Jason Seahorn. So yeah, Troy's my man
out here. He does great work. Danny Parkins joining us as he does each and every week here
on Rahimi Harrison Grotie on 1043, the score FM. You can check Danny out and you just
told you what he's talking about on first things, first OT from 4 to 5 on FS1. Exciting
mics. He wants to be an exciting mic. He's just an exciting Danny. But that's okay. Also,
So is Robbie writing things down for you?
Robbie's doing great work.
Robbie's doing excellent work.
He's contributing every day.
He's learning.
He's very ambitious.
He's got a nice sweater collection.
He does.
I just feel like I feel like you stepped up the wardrobe game department a little bit.
The hair is always like styled and blow dried here.
So like we're getting the best version of Robbie out here, I would say.
In terms of the physical appearance.
You guys got great Robbie as well.
but in terms of he's not you know he's he hasn't yet shown up in like a ripped t-shirt or basketball shorts or anything like that
not a Josh giddy jersey that he was gifted on his way out of the door no Josh giddy jersey yeah so honestly he might just he's lying to all of us
he's doing a great job well I think his his main team the pistons I think you may take issue with jaden ivy being traded
what do you I know you talked a little bit about the NBA trade deadline I saw your clip about james hardin
so what were your takeaways just in the bulls at least trying to get out from some of the
their expiring deals.
Listen, I think it's very unexciting, but it makes sense in terms of if you've come to
the decision that you're not going to sign unrestricted free agent, you know, Kobe White
or Iodosumu, and then you bring in a restricted free agent like Simons or Jaden Ivy,
like that's a good use of assets because you can then like let the market dictate it,
save some money, audition those guys, and that sort of thing.
But it's, they traded Vooch like three years too late.
I just can't get excited about like, well, you know, that second round pick could be a top
four pick in the second round.
Like I know it's an exciting draft and it's a deep draft, but I would much rather than
sacrifice 40 games.
of basketball or 30 games of basketball, whatever it is, to get as many ping pong balls as
possible for the top of this draft, to try to get Boozer's kid or Peterson from Kansas, who
might be the best guard prospect to enter the NBA since Luca, or the kid from BYU, or on and
on down the line. And so, you know, I just, it's good that they're making moves. It's good that
they're not losing assets for nothing. I do think that Ivy is a totally reasonable gamble of a
top five pick with Upside and we'll see what the medical show in terms of if they think he can
actually play 70 regular season games and 25 playoff games if this team's ever ready to make a
run. Like that's a huge question they have to answer. But it's not exciting. It doesn't really
move the needle. You know what I mean? The Wizards have 13 wins and they just, they're going to have
a top five pick in the draft, have Trey Young and just traded for Anthony Davis to go along with
Trey Johnson and Alex Sarr, like, that's a big swing.
It probably won't work. It might not. But that is a big swing for a bad team.
And that is at least something that you can really get excited about.
I just, it's tough to ramp it up too much with any Bulls optimism these days.
The good news, Danny, is with their current roster, they may be able to satisfy your ping pong once.
Because that roster is not very good.
Now, I expect them to try to go out and get some kind of a big, but a guy named Lachlan-Obrick might be getting
extended run. And let me tell you something, that will
equal a lot more losses.
Yeah, you know, like, I hope you're
right. I hope you're right.
It'd be nice for them not to be the nine seed hosting
the second play-in game, right? It would be nice.
The chiefs have the Arrowhead invitational of the
AFC championship game. The Bulls have the Bulls
invitational of the 9-10 game and the play-in.
It'd be nice to shake that. Those are very different things.
Yeah, very different. It'd be nice to shake
that up a little bit.
but I just
I have to see it
before I believe it
because there's really, really bad team
like I got the standings
right here
and you guys are talking more Bulls basketball
than I am these days
but like they have,
the Bulls have 24 wins.
There are
four teams in the East with under 20
and five teams in the West
with under 20
and there are five teams in basketball with 13 or fewer.
Like there's just a, there's a huge gap between the Bulls and the truly awful teams.
And the truly awful teams are positioning themselves to go get potential superstars.
Like, I would just, I don't know, I would much rather be 19 win Dallas with Cooper Flagg
than 24-win Chicago without.
And does one guy completely change everything?
No, of course not.
But it can be a building block towards something.
And the Bulls just seem to be stuck in purgatory.
We're talking to Danny Parkins, who is hosting First thing's first OT on Fox Sports One.
You can check that out from four to five.
And Danny, I also, of course, want to get your Super Bowl pick.
You know, we touched on it a little bit when we've had you on.
But just now that we're a few days away from the big game,
what do you think of the matchup with Seahawks and Patriots?
So I think that the Seahawks are better.
Yeah.
I just think they're a better team.
Drake May is a better quarterback than Donald,
but Donald's coming off the best game of his life.
And so I think if these teams played 10 times,
I think Seattle wins seven of them, maybe eight.
So New England obviously can win.
And I think like if I'm making the case for New England,
it's they've got the better quarterback.
And the Patriots defense is playing by far their best ball,
of the season recently.
Milton Williams has been an absolute monster.
He wrecked last year's Super Bowl.
Maybe he wrecks it again.
This year, Christian Gonzalez is one of the great cornerbacks in the NFL.
And while the Patriots have gone through Chargers top 10 pass defense, Texans' best
defense, Broncos top five defense.
Now Seattle, you know, number one scoring defense.
Seattle, they had the buy.
Then they played San Francisco, who's a terrible defense, and they played the Rams,
who have been a terrible defense since Thanksgiving.
So like the Rams have or the Seahawks have not been challenged with a legit defense like New England brings into the game.
But I just think if you did top 10 players in the game, seven of them are on Seattle.
If you do top 20 players in the game, 13 of them are on Seattle.
So my strong lean is to Seattle and a win in this spot.
Well, and I flash back to the conversation that we had, Danny, where you said,
tell me a team in the NFC and who's left in the playoffs and I'll tell you their flaws.
And that was back at the divisional round.
And even then I felt like Seattle probably had the fewest of the flaws.
What did you think?
Yeah, I mean, it depends when we had that conversation.
Because if it was before Thanksgiving, I think the Rams had the fewest flaws.
The Rams defense post Thanksgiving, you know, just getting worse and worse and worse.
And my thing with Seattle, because I had Seattle in the Rams as one or two on my like top 10 Tuesday,
it was every week since week 11 of the NFL.
So like I said that the NFC championship game was the real super.
Super Bowl. I thought those were the two best teams. The flaw or the question that everybody had
with Seattle that I think is totally fair is like, do you trust Sam Darnold to get it done in a
big spot? And then he just had the best game of his life and the biggest game of his life
and won a shootout with Matt Stafford in the NFC championship game where down the stretch of
that game, they were trusting Sam Darnold to make throw. It's like they weren't playing the clock.
They weren't playing conservative.
They weren't running the ball.
They were throwing when they easily could have called more conservative run plays
and trusting Darnold.
And he kept delivering.
So again, Patriots, the defense is better.
But I do think Darnold at least answered the question of can he do it?
Now, will he do it?
Who knows?
But can he do it?
He now clearly can.
Danny Parkins joining us here on Rahimi Harris and Grotie.
Some breaking news.
Breaking news here on Rahimi and Harris and Grotie.
Brought to you by the Take the North podcast.
Tom Pellasera reporting.
the Cardinals are hiring Nathaniel Hackett as their offensive coordinator.
Sources tell the insider.
Hackett 46 was the offensive coordinator for three seasons under Matt LaFleur and Green Bay.
Now he teams up with Mike LaFleur in Arizona.
21 new offensive coordinators at the end of the day when everything, the dust settles, Danny.
How surprised are you that it's been this volatile?
And what do you think of this one?
I think that, you know, though that job was never,
ever going to go to hyper in-demand people because they don't have a quarterback,
nor do they have a path to get a quarterback, right? Because they're done with Kyler Murray there.
So those are good jobs because there are only 32 head coach jobs and there are only 32
offensive coordinator jobs. But like if you're an offensive coordinator for an
offensive head coach where you're not going to be calling plays, most likely, and you don't
have a quarterback attached to it, like that's not a great gig for Nathaniel Hacking.
get, right? Like, Matt Nagy has a better gig than Nathaniel Hackett just got because Jackson, Dart,
Malik, neighbors, John Harbaugh is not going to call the plays. He's the top offensive mind there.
In terms of the volatility, yeah, I mean, 10 is a lot. And I think that these billionaire owners are getting
more and more impulsive because a $10 million salary means absolutely nothing to them when these
teams are worth six, eight, ten billion bucks.
So there's just much more turnover that's going to happen in the league.
And, you know, so most likely we sit here three years from now and at least seven of these
10 coaches have already been fired.
Like that's where the numbers are trending is this thing going.
Danny Parkins, we always appreciate the time.
We look forward to talking about the post-super Bowl world with you next week.
thanks for coming on absolutely can't wait to do it and uh congrats again uh to the score or the fm it's
been years in the making and i don't know the origin story behind the uh the weiner circle video
that grody did but that i was like i don't know who called that in what favor how that came
about i haven't asked anybody yet but that was that was good work that was really good work it was
all improv they told him to show up he didn't know what he was doing and he showed up and showed out
because that's what Mark Grody does.
No, yeah, I can tell that there wasn't a script.
I meant who, like, put it together to get it on the big board.
But, yeah, I mean, do people have a sense of humor about the Mayor Johnson letter, by the way?
Because, like, I'm not sure if they do it, but I'm not sure if it's going to ruffle any feathers there.
But, like, the Wiener Circle, universal approval rating.
Like, what a great thing to be the testament of, like, the score going to FM.
Mayor Brandon Johnson signing a proclamation.
He's a P1 apparently, so we'll take it.
Yeah, well, I mean, do better.
Danny, we look forward to talking to you next week.
That is Danny Parkins.
Thanks, Danny.
Joining us on the Circa Resort and Casino Hotline, Circa, Las Vegas.com.
We keep it rolling here with our guests on Rahimi Harrison Grady on 670, the score.
And we'll talk to Kendall Gill about the Bulls moves next.
With the fifth pick in the 1990 NBA draft, the Charlotte Hornets select Kendall Gill for Illinois.
Here it is 21 to 12 Bulls. Hornets have scored two points in the last four minutes.
Until then, Kendall Gill.
Kendall Gill baseline penetration and a right hand.
From his tip-y-toe.
Sean Bradley was six.
Whenever we had a blowout loss like this, he would come into the locker room.
He was like, guys, want you to go?
Get a drink. Let's get on the bus. Let's get out of here.
You had no words.
Sound advice right there.
Okay? That's what you got to do after a butt-whop it like this.
Yeah, definitely, definitely for sure.
There's nothing to talk about at all.
You just got taken to the woods shed.
So let's get on the bus.
Let's go back home to Chicago and let's regroup.
With Rahimi Harrison Grody on 1043, the score.
Safe to say we've all been there before in life.
That was Kendall Gill, the 15-year NBA veteran,
in the flying alinae and also the bulls pregame and post game analyst you just heard him there with cam smith
on c hsn he is at kendall gill 13 and he joins us on the circa resort and casino hotline
circa las vegas dot com kendall how are you today hey lena how are you good we uh we wanted to get you
want to talk bulls anyway. I don't know
that Marshall and I thought we were going to see
so many deals happen before
we ended up talking to you today. What do you
think? Well,
I mean, I was surprised about
Anthony Davis. I just found out about
that one a few minutes ago.
You know,
now he's moved on to the
Wizards, but actually
the Wizards are building something out there.
I mean, it just got Trey Young now,
Anthony Davis, and they've got a couple of
young players in Saar,
And it looks like they're putting something together.
Yeah, Trey Johnson is also looked really good for them early on in his NBA career.
I know they probably don't give you hazard pay for dealing with games like you just dealt with back-to-back.
I was listening to you guys talk about it first time since 1969.
That's the third season of the Bulls' existence that they've trailed by 20 plus at halftime in back-to-back games.
What do you say about what you've had to witness over the last couple of the couple of
of appearances by the Bulls?
Well, I mean, it's tough this time of year,
especially when you have trade room or swirling.
Then you have two players traded
that were major parts of your rotation.
And then there's the unknown.
You know, the trade deadline is tomorrow,
but you never know some more deals can be made.
You know, I think that, you know, they trade.
They traded boots and they need another center because the only center that we have right now is
Jaylon Smith.
We don't know when Zach Collins is coming back.
So, you know, if it were me, I would bet that they're going to make another move.
Yeah, and to that point, I was really curious because I know they have no interest in tanking.
They have no interest in just surrendering games.
But with the roster right now, they can't do what they're doing.
So is there someone you're looking at right now for them to be looking to trade for with the trade deadline?
just over 24 hours away?
Okay.
If I'm the GM...
Talk to me.
And I'm out there
and I'm swinging my back.
All right, I'm going to swing big.
I'm going to go for Yonis,
Ante Coupo.
And, you know, I don't know
who the Milwaukee bus would want off of our
roster,
but my responsibility as a
GM is to win.
And, you know,
there have been several reports out of Milwaukee
that Janus knows that it's
time for him to move on.
And, you know, listen, he wouldn't have to move that far and come to the third largest
market in the country.
And, you know, I think if we can get Yonis, then that really makes things bright around
here.
Even though I still think the Bulls, you know, when they're healthy, have done a great job
this season with winning, but it's just unfortunate for this year's team that, you know,
we've just been decimated by injuries.
But if there's no Yonis, then I'm not.
I'm looking at Sabonis from Sacramento.
So I think that the Bulls need somebody to replace boots right away.
Here's the thing, Kendall.
I think in either of those deals, they'll probably ask for modest or giddy, don't you?
Yeah, but I'd have to seriously consider that, you know, for a player that, in my opinion,
is the second or third best player in the league right now.
And I still think that he has four or five good years left in him.
you know, at this level.
So, you know, you acquire guys to sometimes move on to better things.
And as much as I love Josh, as much as I love modest, you know, Yonis has to Dekoupo
is a once-in-a-lifetime talent.
So you have to look at that.
And a guy that moves the needle.
He's an immediate game-changer.
Well, the problem with that, two problems I see, Janus controls where he goes next, number one.
But number two, if that deal happens and you trade those players,
John's doesn't have anyone to play with it.
It's kind of like him being back in the Milwaukee situation on a team not good enough to make a run and a title.
And that's got to be the goal now.
And the other thing is when you look at what else is out there for the Bulls,
I think they have a better chance, because I don't know that Moss is going to get traded before the deadline tomorrow.
They have a better chance of making a run at him after the offseason starts
when they can maybe get some more stuff together if they trade Kobe and or I.
Yeah, my grandfather, you can tell me this.
A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.
Yes.
Go for it now.
Okay?
And, you know, I wouldn't give up both modest and Josh.
It's one or the other.
You know, so I would have to have something, of course,
if the deal was able to be made for the United States of the Coup.
I would have to have somebody here to play with him, of course.
You know, I wouldn't give them both up.
So, you know, as a GM, you have to think.
about that. So, you know, not, not both
of them. Would you give up one of
those guys for Sabonis, though?
No. Okay.
So we're on the same page here.
But I think, yeah, and I just feel
like with either one of those, and especially
Janus, the price is going to start. You know how it is,
Kendall. If you're asking for Janus, which you're
in your rights to do, they will then ask for
giddy and or modest,
because they are in their rights to ask in return.
And then maybe the negotiation would start.
Yeah, and then a good.
as you just said, the negotiation would start from there.
So, you know, but the Bulls have a lot of assets.
I mean, you know, Anthony Simons, we're a very good young guard.
And, you know, I was surprised that this was his eighth year in the league.
But, I mean, he's one of the better catch-and-shoe players in the league,
averaging 14 points a game and really gave it to the Bulls the last time that he played him.
I mean, I think he had 27 points.
Jady and Ivy. So you still have pieces that you could throw in the deal for a player like Yonah.
But, you know, we have to wait and see. I mean, I'm not privy to any information.
I'm just telling, I'm just going off the cuff telling you guys what I see.
No, I get, I mean, that's, we say it all the time on this show.
You've got to start with your craziest trades and your ideal trades to get them out of your head
to then work on the ones that are realistic or more likely to happen.
I do think, though, that trading for Ivy, similar to.
what you talk about with Anthony Simons.
Jaden Ivy, you know, shot creator,
somebody who is young and fits that same timeline.
And, you know, what do you think about him being a bull?
I was so excited that they traded for him
because I loved him at Purdue.
All the consensus, All-American,
a guy that can, like Iyo does,
can get downhill, create shots,
can shoot the basketball and has a huge motor.
And I think that, you know, because of his injury, he just, you know, fell out of the rotation because when he was injured, the Detroit Pistons, they just got good.
You know, they got better while he was out.
And, you know, there was really no spot for him, you know, in the foreseeable future.
But, you know, this guy's the former fifth pick in the draft.
Okay.
He was there for a reason because he can really play.
So, you know, and, you know, as much as I like what Kevin Herder brought to the team, I think that's the
the Bulls did a really good job of not having to give up a comparable value for a guy like Jayne.
Jay Navy, in my opinion, is a stud.
Will you be surprised if both Kobe and I are on this roster tomorrow,
and will you be surprised if either of them are on the roster tomorrow?
Anything is possible.
You know, I'm not surprised at anything in the NBA.
I mean, you look at when Luca Dodgers was traded last year, I thought that that wasn't possible.
But listen, this is the world we live in, and AK's Mark Ever's job is to put the best team on the floor that can win.
And, you know, look, I.O., the way that he has played this year has made himself a valuable target for teams.
Kobe White, of course, you know, a lot of teams would love to have Kobe's talents because of his ability to score the basketball.
So, you know, I said on air yesterday, I was like, I hope nobody bought a house.
Yeah, I heard you say that.
Because, you know, you never know in this league.
But, you know, we just have to wait and see guys.
And as much as I love Iyo and Kobe, you know, if it makes the team better, then you have to make a deal.
Well, you know, Modis doesn't have to buy a house because, you know, he lives here, just straight up.
My question is...
Yeah, yeah, he can go to his mom and dad.
Exactly.
So based on what you said earlier, maybe it was a year ago where you talked about him comparing him to Cooper Flats.
after seeing Cooper flag drop the 49 points and now seeing Modis's development.
Do you stand by what you said about those two guys and Modis being on that same level?
Or do you see the areas I see where he has some serious work to do primarily with his handle?
He's got to tighten that handle up.
He's got to tighten his handle up, but I'm still sticking with what I say.
Listen, he did a move yesterday to push cross.
He got into the slot.
If he develops that, then that's going to take his game to a whole different level.
I don't know if you guys remember when he had the basketball.
He got in the down court.
He got in a slimy push-crossed and went in and dunked it.
I don't even think he really knew what he did,
but that is a move that Josh Giddy uses all the time.
That's a move that Russell Westbrook used all the time.
Derek Rose, John Morant,
and now you've got a guy at 6'10 doing it.
And I tell this to people all the time, guys,
Cooper Flag is the number one option on Dallas.
Miles Buccellus is the third or fourth option on the Bulls.
So, you know, and look, I'm not taking anything away from Cooper Flag.
He's a great player, great player.
But I'm sticking with my hometown guy, okay, because I believe in his talent.
It's understood.
And we were talking about this earlier, Kendall.
The game last night, I think, was also indicative of the trade deadline is not fun for players.
Like, even if you think you're a made man, no better example than Luca Donchich.
And the reaction the league had last year to seeing him get traded.
and I believe somebody, I forget which player said, but he's like, if the Don gets traded, then there's no hope for the rest of us.
Meaning like, even when you bought your house because you thought you could, you know, what is it like as a former player at that time?
Because I've heard like guys can't even trust their agents.
Like, you're on, you're on a weird alert that makes it hard to concentrate.
Well, let me tell you, I give you a perfect example when my, the second time I went back to the Charlotte Hornets, I saw the owner.
and George Shen in the hallway, and it was, I don't know, probably maybe December.
And I just got back to the Hornets, and I was playing great basketball.
I saw the owner, and he said, Kenno, hey, look, you know, he's going to be here for the rest
of your career, you know, and, you know, I had bought a house and everything, and I thought
that I was going to be there three days after I bought the house, and three days after,
and a couple days after I talked to George Shin, and he told me, you know, you're going to be here
for the rest of your career.
You know, they traded me to the New Jersey Nets.
Wow.
Three days?
Three days after I spoken to them.
Did you speak to him after the trade?
No, I never saw him again after that because I had to get on a plane and get to New Jersey.
Wow.
But, I mean, that's how it is, man.
It's business.
And you have to understand that going in.
That's why I tell players don't ever buy a house where you don't have roots, man.
You know, because you never know.
Things change so quickly.
Yeah, things change so quickly.
And, you know, if a GM thinks that he can make his team better, it doesn't matter really who you are.
I mean, and there's only a handful of guys that really could not have gotten traded.
That being Magic Johnson, Karim Adulji Bar, of course, Michael Jordan, and Kobe Bryant and LeBron James.
You can put those.
I'll take those six.
Yeah.
That wouldn't get traded.
I think given the history of when those guys played relative to now, I'd say that that's the safest bet.
You're absolutely right. Kendall, it's always great talking to you. We appreciate the time.
All right. Take care.
Thank you so much, Kendall.
Thank you so much, Kendall.
We'll talk about the Illini soon enough, man. You got a big game for the Kendall Gill household tonight.
Yeah, yeah, I'm headed down in a couple hours, so we'll see.
All right. Well, Kendall, good luck, Northwestern taking on the Illini.
And thanks for talking to us.
Okay, bye-bye.
That was Kendall Gill. We always love talking with Kendall.
And yeah, that's a house divided among himself.
Man, that's crazy. That's where his son decided to go to.
to school, Phoenix Gill, of course, playing for the rival that he went to school for, and
Illinois is doing things.
Oh, yeah, they have, yeah, they've got potential All-American Canada.
I watched that Nebraska game, and I was thoroughly impressed.
Oh, oh, absolutely.
Yeah, they, they, Brad Underwood knows how to work the transfer portal.
You know, he doesn't complain about it.
Coming up next, let's stay with, let's stay with some basketball talk because Dwayne Wade and
Shaq took a podium together.
I can't believe what happened.
Is this Petty next?
Rahimi Harrison Grootty.
On Chicago Sports Radio
1-4-3.
Ashley, don't be petty.
Oh, we're at FM and we're adding to our
Is This Petty Production Value, Tyler Bueberbaugh?
I love what I'm hearing.
You guys know we play the game.
Is this Petty?
We play it often because, well, there's a lot of petty
stuff that's happening out here in the
sports world. And now we turn
our focus on Is This Petty to
none other than a
Chicago man from Harvey
lives here in the city.
Dwayne Wade!
The heap brought back their 2006 title
team for a two-day 20th anniversary
celebration this week. They had a
gala on Monday, followed by an encore
event for fans to see at their
home game against Atlanta on Tuesday night.
And Dwayne Wade and Shaq took the
podium together. Listen
to Shaq and ask yourself, is this petty?
Dwayne and Shaq, Spoh was talking a little bit pregame,
just about the inspiration this could have for his current team.
What was it like, I guess, being around the current group of heat players on the franchise,
and what do you think, you know, this could inspire for that unit?
I'm familiar with guys on the teams.
Are you?
Yeah.
Named five players.
I'm not going to do that.
But I'm the guy that I always try to stay out the way.
I saw
I mean this is BAM's team
and you know
so I shook the hand
show my respect they showed their respect
but you know I'm not the guy that
we did this we you should
I've you know never really been that guy
you know hopefully we
our story can
inspire them to do better
and I don't even know the record
what's the record? It ain't good enough
so he has other organizations
that he's a part of. He got Orlando and he got
L.A. So we ain't read about what he's talking about.
Yes. I hope.
This is my organization.
I hope. See how he talked to me.
I love this.
What about inside the NBA?
He has a whole job.
A whole job.
What about the job where he keeps up with the Lee?
Like not even a Tyler Hero mentioned?
Listen, five heat players is not very hard.
You've got former All-Star and NBA champion, Andrew Wiggins.
We talked about Casperos Yakuchonas earlier on the show today.
We did.
Although he's a line ice.
That's not even one of the guys I would go with, though.
Like if we're talking about the five most should be known players.
Terry Rozier.
This year's All-Star Norman Powell.
Bam Atabio.
Andrew Wiggins.
I said Wiggins.
So that's four, right?
See, I can't even remember.
Tyler, Andrew Wiggins, Bam atabio, Norman Powell.
I'll say Davian Mitchell just for the heck of it.
But there's, like, there's.
Kala Ware had himself a game against the Bulls and that stupid play in.
There's guys.
And maybe you had the best one.
Scary Terry.
Are you?
Yeah.
So next time they try to get Chuck to play who he play for,
maybe Chuck should turn over the reins to Shaquille O'Neal.
I just was dying laughing because I was like, wait,
don't you guys have Inside the NBA?
Now, granted, inside the NBA has not been on a lot,
which they've talked about, but still, still.
Also, some fun from that heat gala,
because we had this make the rounds.
I saw Maddie,
who runs a very successful social media account
in the streets,
got to interview Bam Otabio and Asia Wilson.
And, you know, Asia was really kind to people
during that condensation delay here.
She came to the game and she took pictures
with fans who had like her jersey on in the stands.
My man, my man, my man.
She was supporting her boy, right?
Yeah, they are a power couple.
And Asia's like nice and approachable.
So they had some fun.
with this when they were asked this question.
Give me your scouting reports of each other.
Ooh, scouting war.
You like that? You ate with that.
Thank you. Thank you, Asia.
Ooh.
Scouting report on bail.
He likes going left.
A little bit.
Sit him baseline.
I would say send him baseline.
Yeah, you don't go baseline.
You go middle all the time.
Baseline.
You can really, whatever you're about to say to me, I'm about,
whatever she's about to say, I'm about to say.
What?
No.
It's the same.
All right.
Listen.
You're supposed to say you can't guard her.
Um, yeah, see him based on, contest.
Like, make just hard shots, make them think a little bit, make them think, just show him different looks.
Because if Bam gets a whole of the, your first coverage, oh, it's done, he's gonna pick you apart.
But if you show him different looks and make him think, you might have a chance.
That's my scounder for it.
I can't get too much because the opponents might be clocking me.
Alright, ma'am.
Um, don't piss me on me.
She loves to go left.
We all know that.
She loves to go left.
I would say people don't double her.
Enough?
Cut the cameras.
Yeah, people don't double her enough.
By the time they start doubling, she has 25.
It's too late at that point.
That was good.
That was a really good question.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you guys for coming over here.
I appreciate it.
What a messy question.
It's just a messy question.
It's a good question.
Did you see BAM's expression on his face?
when she was answering, he was like, oh, no, don't do that, don't do that. Don't do that. That's what
his eyes were saying the whole time. It's such a good question. It's one of those where you wonder
why somebody hadn't asked it before. Yeah, yeah. She does a great job with that social media,
by the way, running up on players and their significant others, and it's a fun follow.
Much different energy from old Shaq and Dee Wade over there.
This is my organization. See how you talk to me?
I mean, he had a point.
He had a point.
Dee Wade had a point.
If I could only cover one sport.
If we only had one sport to cover.
You would pick the NBA?
No, I'm just saying, like, think about how lethal we would all be.
There's only so many hours in a day.
True that, true that.
I love it all.
Yeah, but still, like, you know what I'm saying?
If our job was just the NBA?
So you're wondering why Shaq didn't know those names on the heat roster?
He runs Reebok too, you know.
He's a busy guy.
He's a busy guy.
Wait, he's doing business with Modis, isn't he?
Isn't Modis part of that?
Yeah, I believe so.
I mean, I remember last year, yeah.
I don't know if he's a shoe free agent or if he's still a Reebok guy.
There it is.
See, Shack's got a lot of irons and a lot of fires.
And so concludes another episode of Is This Petty.
And from what I understand,
old brother of Matt LaFleur over there, Mike.
We might have to play as his petty with old Mike LaFleur tomorrow
because he issued one of the Cardinals press conference apparently.
So we might have to do that tomorrow.
Another round.
In the meantime, we'll talk to Lawrence Holmes and Matt Spiegel next.
