Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show - Danny Parkins talks Bears' center void, Raiders' asking price for Maxx Crosby (Hour 4)

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

In the final hour, Leila Rahimi and Mark Grote were joined by FS1 host Danny Parkins to react to Bears center Drew Dalman's surprising retirement at age 27 and to explain why he doesn't believe Raider...s star defensive end Maxx Crosby is worth a pair of first-round picks in a trade. After that, Rahimi and Grote discussed how likely it is that the Bears will trade receiver DJ Moore this offseason.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The score! I could do Stephen A's job, guys. It's not that far. Danny Parkins. QB1 party! All are invited. Host of Fox Sports Wans, first thing first. Coming in to number six, though,
Starting point is 00:00:13 the team that should be the favorites in the NFC North, though, the odds makers say they're the third best team. My Chicago Bears, why can't the Chicago Bears be the best offense in football? The Bears, plenty of reason to doubt them. Caleb Williams, no. Former host of 670, the score, before he abandoned us. That's a Caleb Williams custom, baby. Jersey number one is going to the Raptors.
Starting point is 00:00:34 You guys made it seem like a Chicago Bears fans. We had our guy, Danny Parkis, all these guys. Danny Parkins on 1043, the score. Wade. Wade is my favorite part. This is Rahimi Harrison Grady on 1043 The Score, and that is Danny Parkins' music. You can check him out on the newly expanded First Things First OT
Starting point is 00:00:54 from 4 to 5 p.m. on Fox Sports 1. He is at Danny Parkins on X, and he's back for vacation. Hey, Danny. Layla, Grody, how the hell are you? I'm good. I tell Grody, I just like it when you two mess with each other. So sorry in advance if I just listen and giggle for some of the time where you two talk to each other. It just makes me happy. I miss Grody a lot.
Starting point is 00:01:18 He's good. But, you know, he has to say something ridiculous. So once he starts talking, you know, I'll almost. I swear to God, I was just about to say. because I feel like, I don't know, Layla wants us to fight or something. I don't know what's going on here. No, I didn't say anything about a fight.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Oh, just entertain. Yeah, no, but I was, honestly, I was just about to say before you made the comment, you made it, I'm looking at you right now, and you look good. You look like you just got back from vacation. The hair looks good. The tie is tight as if, like, you're just got off the air,
Starting point is 00:01:51 but you're getting ready to go on the air. So you're looking good, my friend. Thank you, sir. You're looking good also. Don't say that. Yeah. You don't have to say that. No, I didn't mean it.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah. I, uh, no, you know, this tie not as great because I don't tie it myself. What? Yeah, they tie my ties. No, they don't. Are you serious? Man. Dude, of course I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I've told this story before. And I've not heard the story. Grody, not only do they tie the ties. Not only do they buy the clothes. Not only do they set out the outfits. when I step into the dressing room, the belt is already through the loops. True story.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And I asked our lovely wardrobe designer, Christine, this was like a week into the job. So this is, you know, almost a year and a half ago. At this point, I was like, why is the belt already through the loop? And she said two things that blew my mind. One, she was like, well, it's because our job is to make sure that all you guys have to think about is performing on the air,
Starting point is 00:03:02 as if me having to put the belt through the loops was somehow going to take away from the takes. And then two, she said, she said, no one had ever asked her about that before. Of course. I was like, wait, what? So all of these TV people are just so coddled and so spoiled that they think that that is normal? And she's like, yeah, you're the first person that's ever at. She's like, I've worked everywhere. I've worked at SNL.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I've worked at Fox. I've worked at NBC. She's like, you're the first person who's ever asked me that before. I'm like, oh, wow. Okay. Well, this is clearly different. So, yeah, I mean, people are, you look good since going into TV. I'm like, yeah, none of it's me.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Well, okay, here's the question then. Do they then, do they also de-robe you like a boxing trainer? Like, you get off and then they pull the mouthpiece out. Like, do they derail. Yeah, no, good question. No, I have to do that myself. But on my next contract, that's something that I'm going to be looking for. Then what the hell does Triano do over there?
Starting point is 00:04:03 If he's not derobing you, what exactly the send him back? If that's all you can get out of him, then send him back. Why do you think I put in the recommendation? I mean, the guy is excellent at tying my shoes. He's really good at it. See, this is what I needed. This is what I came here for. All right, ask him about Drew Dalman.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yes. Okay. So, Danny, Mark Grady has instructed me to ask you. What did you think when this happened? Yeah. Listen, obviously you're surprised. And obviously your attention turns to, wow, that's like a huge loss for the bears and how is that going to impact their off season. I think those are like the instant reactions that anybody would have. But then like you think about it two seconds more. and I don't think it's very difficult to get yourself into a headspace of like,
Starting point is 00:04:56 I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more just because clearly we know what the game does to the mind. Clearly we know what the game does to the body. Drew Dalman, and I don't know why he retired, but he's a Stanford grad with a mechanical engineering degree, with a father who won a Super Bowl who also went to Stanford. So he's seen in his upbringing the highest of highs that football can afford in a Super Bowl. And now his dad's in his mid-50s, so presumably he knows what the game does to you as you age. And Drew Dalman has made eight figures, like at 27 years old. So like if you've made eight figures and you are an avid reader with other interests and a smart guy,
Starting point is 00:05:42 it doesn't strike me as a ridiculous decision to be sure that you can get out with your mind and body intact because it's easier now than ever to do it because you're making more money at an earlier age than any generation before who played the game. So, you know, I hope he's okay. I wish him nothing but the best. We can talk about the football ramifications for it. But, you know, I think the surprise in a story like this should actually be that it doesn't happen more often. Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, that is very rational, but there is the football part and the part where it just sucks. Like, and maybe it's good that Ben Johnson gave us that stern warning at the end of the season.
Starting point is 00:06:23 He couldn't have done it more quickly to tell us everything's going to be different. But things are looking a little bit too different right now on the offensive line, Danny, with the center and with the left tackle. How worried are you, football-wise? Yeah, so there's a couple of things. I think it's totally fine to say that it sucks. I don't think that that means that you're callous or that you're being disrespectful to Drew Dalman.
Starting point is 00:06:46 You can like wish him the best and respect his decision and then be a Bears fan and be like, but what does this mean for Caleb Williams? Like I think that's totally, I think that's just like totally reasonable. Yep. I do have a lot of faith that Ben Johnson can figure it out. But you know, I think that like that this amount of like change or surprise or upheaval with previous Bears coaches hits me very differently than it does with this Bears coach because it's like, oh, well, we've got a genius as the coach of the Bears.
Starting point is 00:07:13 he's going to be able to work around it. My initial thought, and I obviously do not know this is purely speculative, but we're just hanging out talking football so it's okay. Bears. Bears. I wonder if it just takes them out of the running for Max Crosby entirely. If that left tackle, center, edge rusher, and other front seven piece X, whether it be three technique or Tremaine Edmund's replacement,
Starting point is 00:07:42 like it's just too many premium positions to fill that you cannot afford to give up a first round pick when you have that many holes to fill and that they maybe will pivot more into the Trey Hendrickson market where that's just money and then save the 25th overall pick to draft an offensive lineman. So like that was like an initial thought that I have for sure. And we can talk about Crosby and my feeling on some of the reporting on that if you guys want. But I do think that it, it, it, it creates such a premium hole that I do think it's going to make Ryan Poles maybe a smidge less likely to be hyper-aggressive. Yeah, that was also my thought, too, was that perhaps with Crosby's cap hit and then the draft capital and personnel,
Starting point is 00:08:30 because Dyer Rusini, Danny this morning said she maintains its two firsts and a player, the asking price, that it might be a bridge too far. I don't believe it. Okay, so why don't you believe it? precedent. So let me see if I can pull this up for you guys on the fly. So I can, I just haven't committed it all to memory yet. I could probably do 80% of it from memory. But I'll try to.
Starting point is 00:08:52 So basically like Jay Glazer, Diana Rossini, really smart, really plugged in people, have said that they're looking for a Micah Parsons impact return. And it's like, okay, great. That's what the Raiders would like. But now let's talk about reality. So in the last 10 years, these are the non-quarterbacks who were traded for multiple first-round picks and their age at the time. Sauce Gardner, 25 years old. Micah Parsons, 26 years old. Jamal Adams, 25 years old.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Jalen Ramsey, 25 years old. Laramie Tunsell, 25 years old. Khalil Mack, 27 years old. Max Crosby turns 29 before the season starts and he's coming off of a minor surgery, but a minute. miscus cleanup. I see no earthly scenario where he gets two first round picks and a player. And I understand that you do not have to give him a record-setting contract because he's already been paid. So that's like a little different than the Micah situation and some of those other guys who you had to trade for and then pay the Kalil-Mack situation that Bears fans know well.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I get it. But I think the other two, the two years older and the coming off the injury offsets it. So like Bill Barnwell's proposal of the 20. 25th pick and DJ Moore feels much more in line with what I would think you would have to give up to get Max Crosby, given that he's 29. I see no way that the compensation even approaches Micah Parsons, where it's two first round picks and a premium player. I would be floored if the Raiders get that for 29-year-old Max Crosby. So you're saying that, thinking that that's the price for Max Crosby in a trade. And then I was thinking, well, because it's two firsts, then that may be the bridge too far now that Dalman's out. What makes you say that it puts it out of concept for the Bears?
Starting point is 00:10:46 Well, listen, I think, you know, the most valuable thing you can have in the NFL is great players on cheap, cost-controlled contracts, right? Like, that's why Caleb is so valuable right now. And that's why it is the time to go all in. But, like, premium positions outside of quarterback, left tackle, wide receiver, corner, edge rusher, and then arguably center. And they have huge question marks at three of those positions. But yesterday they had huge question marks at two of those positions. So I just think it's like, I think it's possible that because Ryan Poles now will look at it and say,
Starting point is 00:11:24 man, I need to get another cheap, cost controlled player for four plus years with that pick. I just think it's a little bit more likely that he holds the pick than trades the pick because another premium position became open. Not a guarantee, but I don't, I wouldn't trade two first round picks and DJ more for Max Crosby. I think that's crazy. Like, I would trade one, but I would not trade two. He's 29 years old. And so it's just, it's a different, it's a different calculus for me when you're going to be paying for a guy in his 30s.
Starting point is 00:12:03 as opposed to his athletic prime. But don't you think he's, you're right, 29. When you make these, you hope to get two or three really good years when you pay guys big bucks in the NFL. And that's about the length of a window, a winning window in the NFL. Isn't it worthwhile? Don't you think the bears are on the doorstep of something special in the next two or three years?
Starting point is 00:12:27 And don't you think Max Crosby is still going to be worth double-digit sacks for the next three years? I do. I do. Yes, I do. But I think, again, I think that the, like, that's what I, that is the best case scenario. Bullding, listen, we will, we've talked about this before. We will talk about this again. And I think there's a good chance he's traded before the next time you and I talk. Like, but I just, when Max Crosby gets traded, if he is traded for two first round picks and a player who has been paid or about to be paid, I will be wrong. But if he is traded for one first round pick, and a player or like one first round pick and a third round pick, then I will be right. And like I just, I just, my gut tells me that the reporting on this is Raiders centric. The Raiders want a Micah Parsons Hall. The Raiders are looking for a, Mikea Parsons hall. It's like, well, of course they are. But I just, he's not as good as Micah Parsons, and he's older and he's more injured. I mean, not now because of the
Starting point is 00:13:25 injury that Parsons has coming, is coming off of, but in terms of like when he was traded. So I just, I don't think there is precedent for trading two first-round picks and a player for a player his age that isn't a quarterback. It doesn't exist. So I just, I don't expect it to happen for Max Crosby. We're talking to Danny Parkins, host of First Things First on Fox Sports One, the extended edition from four to five here in Rahimi Harrison Grady on the score. Danny, if you had to, I know for me, ideally it's Tyler Linderbaum for the Bears Center wish list, but financially that seems steep. What do you think happens at center? I will be very surprised if the Bears pay Linderbaum.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I'll be very surprised. Not because he isn't great and not because it's not an important position. And you would be getting him for a long time and centers a position that can age for a long time. I just think that every team is going to try to get him. I think that he makes a ton of sense for the Raiders to pair with Mendoza and the anchor Clint Kubiak system. And it's a similar blocking scheme. I think he makes a ton of sense for the Chargers who, you know, Jim Harbaugh and John Harbaugh, that connection. The Chargers, Assistant GM was with the Ravens before when they drafted Linderbaum, so there's that connection.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I just think there's like half a dozen teams in front of the Bears, both with cap space and need for Linderbom, that I will be, I just will be very, very surprised if that's what they do. And so what they do at center, you know, I think the 25th pick is very likely. And I think, again, I think it makes Trey Hedrickson a little bit more likely for the Bears as, you know, like a one or two year type commitment in terms of practical guarantees and just like throwing money at the problem as opposed to a trade. So, you know, those are best guesses at this point. But, you know, Linderbom obviously should be discussed and it would obviously be something to really celebrate. But I'd be very surprised by it. have you been catching the off-season comedy tour that has been Ben Johnson, his hilarity at the Combine, talking about Tyson Baygent and needling Caleb Williams for being bad in the three-point shooting contest? And then at a Bulls game pretending to take his shirt off. Are you enjoying off-season Ben Jonson?
Starting point is 00:15:47 Is anybody not? I mean, I'm not saying that's a dumb question, but I am just being like, like, I'm not. No, no, no, I'm not saying that at all. But, like, I am just, I would love it so much if, like, you were like, no, actually, like, that's like 70, 30 approval in Chicago. Like, like, well, hold on, Danny. I mean, with all the center stuff going on, he's over at the United Center taking his shirt off instead of going to the combine and looking at centers. Yeah. That's what I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:16:18 It's been brought up. They're like, is it the equivalent of like, he should be in the playbook? Like, you know what I mean? Like, Ben Johnson has to have the highest. approval rating of basically any not super star athlete in Chicago in the last 20 years. And so like the idea that anybody would not be enjoying the Bears rock star coach, needling the Packers, taking the shirt off, needling the quarterback, like all of it. All of it is great.
Starting point is 00:16:46 All of it is likable. You know, if they go six and 11, will it be less likable? Yeah, sure. But like, you know, let's cross that bridge if we never come to it, you know? So, yeah, of course I've been enjoying it. And the Caleb thing, you know, while not a huge deal is not no deal. Like there was a time, Caleb said, I didn't know if this coach really liked me. And there was some reporting from like real people that was like, man, Caleb's not really like Jared Gough.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Like, is Ben Johnson really enamored with Caleb Williams? And now we have Caleb Williams wearing Ben Johnson. high school jersey to a game and the coach and quarterback having such a comfortable relationship that he can call his quarterback out and make fun of him for like obviously nothing that's really embarrassing, but like still like take a shot at him publicly quote unquote on shot. And we all know that it's totally fine. Like this is literally what we've been dreaming of our entire lives in Chicago, having an elite quarterback talent with an elite offensive minded play calling head coach,
Starting point is 00:17:54 and they're being no bad blood. There's no weird Mike Martz-J Cutler stuff. It's just like it is literally the platonic ideal of how you can win for a decade in the NFL. So yeah, I love it. Well, that's a good note to end on. And I'm glad that, Danny, you're back and that you and Mark got to have a chat.
Starting point is 00:18:14 We are. And I just saw that Ben Johnson's name on the Chicago Theater Marquis. He's performing there in a couple of weeks. So, Danny, I'm going to get you into the city. Well, I'll find somebody to put your time. eye on and it'll be great. You and I have a good time. Yeah, dude, we got to get back to the Chicago Theater. You've got to pass me the pen
Starting point is 00:18:30 again and oh, oh, oh, really, really. We're doing that now. We're pretending like that. That's happening now. Yeah, and then listen, this is like the soft announcement before the announcement because I'm not allowed to say when the Radiothon is happening, but the Radiothon is happening.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And so you don't want to put this out on social media. I see you guys going to the One cam. It's not what I'm looking for it. I know what you guys are doing. I know what you're doing. Donald, putting on the one camera. Yeah, I know. I get it.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I get it. No, but as always, if you or your company want to be involved, it's coming sooner than ever before. It's going to hopefully be bigger than ever before. My DMs are open. You can call the score.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Ray will put you in contact with me. You can email me. You can DM me. We need more corporate sponsors than ever in order to grow this thing bigger. I'll have some specific announcements very soon whenever I get the green light from all of your bosses. I don't work for these people anymore. But, you know, it's going to be great. It's going to be huge.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It's going to be shockingly soon. And so you'll be hearing more about it in the days and weeks to come. Shockingly soon. Okay. So that lights a fire. If you want to be a part of the Radiothon and you know how wonderful of a production it has been, please let us know at the score. Danny, we look forward to the next time we chat.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Can't wait. Can't wait. Thanks, guys. Get them off the one camera. Get them off. Get them off. You don't direct this show either. None of us do.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Thank God. That's Danny Parkins. And we also had a veteran friend texting who was Marine Corps. They had a comment they made about what they would do if they retired. Yeah. They said that they retired at 38 and they just did nothing for a year. So I thought that was a pretty wonderful thing to do. That's not bad at all.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And we thank them for their service. And if you know a veteran, please nominate a vet to be honored during every Cubs broadcast at thescoreChicago.com. It's sponsored by jeff buysyourhouse.com, veteran-led and trusted since 2007. So I thought that was a good way to remember it and also honor our friend who did nothing for a year. So congratulations to you and thank you for your service. It's a great idea. So we brought this up with Danny and it stands to be revisited because, Brad Biggs also had some news about this.
Starting point is 00:20:55 What is DJ Moore's fate with the Bears? Is it sealed? Does anybody know? He gives us some insight next. Rahimi Harrison Grody. We are the best show in this town to have the coach and or quarterback sit right here. Because we're here for a good time. We are here for a good time.
Starting point is 00:21:13 We're fun. We're funny. We're serious sometimes. Sometimes we cry. Sometimes we laugh. Like this is perfect. If you want a high chance of a drink, all over the studio. We are definitely
Starting point is 00:21:24 repeated. Middays 10 to 2. Maybe we're the show for you. On 104 3, The Score. Truer words have never been spoken. This song just motivates me right now to spill one of my many beverages all over the studio. Mitch, I hope you're not listening. This is Rahimi
Starting point is 00:21:42 Harrison Grotie on 1043, The Score. And if you ever want motivation, by the way, just look at the YouTube comments on this song. Oh, yeah? Oh, my God. They will make you like when people say they're using it to get through cancer treatment and things like that. That, uh, Mitch is listening. Mitch, I didn't spill anything.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I was told, as I said earlier, it's okay. You don't spill. If you can spill just a little bit, it's okay. Wait, are you trying to spill a little bit? Are you like trying to leave a mark? Just said, like if you spill coffee on the keyboard, just a little bit and you're going to be okay. You've got to stop hanging out with Dave the cat because I'm pretty sure he takes that approach to like spraying and marking his territory.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Let me tell you about Dave the cat and not going to be. stuff over. Cat owners know this. And if you don't know this, cats get something called the zoomies where they let every ounce of energy out of their body that they needed to let out and they just run recklessly throughout the place.
Starting point is 00:22:37 And when that happens, man, I'll be laying on my couch and he starts zooming, I am up and I'm standing and playing defense because he's running up, because I've been laying down before and he runs over my face. He clawed me real good. So now when the zoomies come, I am up and in a defense. And in a
Starting point is 00:22:52 position and he's knocking over glasses all over the place. So I've had to Dave the cat, Zumi-proof my place. You know what I'm talking about, right? Why don't you just let him out in the hall? Oh, I do do that. Because then he can just run laps. Well, that's, I try to let Dave organically burn off all this energy. And yes, I do let him out in the hallway as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:23:12 But still, cats have this thing where they want to go crazy for about five minutes every day. And it's like a tornado. You just can't, you cannot control it. I have a similar situation, but it's a 60. pound little terrier mix and she will just take out your legs. Oh, yeah. She's running like 15 miles an hour. It's frightening, man.
Starting point is 00:23:31 You're done. Sometimes I go in the hallway. Dave, you do what you need to do here. I'm going to go hang out in the hallway with some of the neighbors. You run roughshod over this place. Just don't break anything. So you basically let him rage. I mean, I have to, right?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah, my French bulldog, Betsy, Betsy Bulldog. She also used to get the Zumies, but then I just be like, hey, let's go out in the hall and run together. So then we just go out in the hole. and run together. Oh, that's awesome. Up and down the hall. Yeah, it's not like a dog where you could take to a park and just run that dog.
Starting point is 00:23:58 She loved to do sprints. Yeah? And she liked the hallway because it was carpet. French bulldog you had? I did. Like, while living alone or a family? My ex-husband and I had her together and then I had her for a little bit after we got divorced. But you got the dog? I did. Aw. I didn't know you had a French bulldog.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah, she was great. Happiness was a snoring French bulldog. She snored a lot like me. I would get one. If I was to get a dog, I would get one of those snickerdoodles, I think it is. I don't know that that's a dog name. It's not. I think it's a cookie.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Oh, it is. A doodle mix, but you mean like a... The smaller, the smaller doodles. Like a labradoodle? Yeah, we see the... But the smaller, like, they're beautiful dogs, the labradoodles, but I think at this point I would go for a smaller dog, even though I might like the bigger dogs better, but they just seem like really nice.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Snickerdoodle is a poodle schnauzer mix. Say? I had no idea. I just knew it was a cooking. just making it up. Yeah. Yeah, you could be just making it up. And often charming, intelligent and affectionate hybrid.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Aw. I got to deal with the Butte here. When I say stuff, you back me up no matter what. I'll write that down. You act like you're looking it up. You write it down. If you're ready for that, if you are ready to be my write that down guy, yeah. You once called his podcast, the Sniggle Puss podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:14 How is the Sniggle Puss podcast? That's not the podcast. What is the name of your podcast? Bute. Blow the whistle. Blow the whistle. Blow the whistle. Yeah, I did. I didn't know what it was for some reason.
Starting point is 00:25:27 How's the Sniggle Puss podcast going? So listen here, Snarky Snark. Before you get into telling people what to do, just remember Snickle Puss. Single Puss. I did not know Snickerdoodle was a real dog. See? Sometimes I'm right. You are. 50% of the time. Someone who's right more often than we are is Brad Biggs. These are just the facts.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Brad Biggs had a Q&A that you just definitely need to read in the Chicago Tribune. and then he had his 10 thoughts from the combine, which was a must read for me as a Bears Observer. And then there was this that he had to say this morning about DJ Moore when it came to the likelihood of him being traded on Mully and Haw. Does it change with the Dolman? I mean, yeah, changes if they're going after a Linderbomb, right? Like that, that would make it something I think where you could connect it.
Starting point is 00:26:12 If they trade DJ, does that mean they're targeting Linderbomb? No, but the DJ being traded, they've been so transparent and candid about his situation that I think chances are better than not he's probably traded right like if if they were very disinclined to the idea of trading him I don't think they would be so out front and center about it being a possibility who's right though I mean, why would you put that ambiguity in everybody's minds at the combine unless you were seriously preparing people and DJ Moore and his family to eventually be traded or a very strong chance of it anyway? It's just such a, it's a slippery slope because this is a real situation of to the victor goes of spoils, you know, and not in the good way, but in the quite literal way. when you consider that DJ Moore was able to get the contract that he deserved,
Starting point is 00:27:20 the Bears paid him appropriately for his services. They gave him his third deal. He showed with multiple teams how he can produce multiple quarterbacks. And because he's the highest pay player on the team, and he's his focal point. You know, he's the one you go to when the game is on the line. Multiple times we see that. Then now he's the one who's a part of this discussion in this way.
Starting point is 00:27:40 He's the most valuable asset in a trade. he's also valuable to the team. It's catchy. It's a catch-22 in a way. It really is. I mean, because I agree with you. And the fact that you can get caught on the problem, not like catchy like a fun hook in a song.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah, and I think it's not like the bears would be helpless without him, but there'd be a lot of, there'd be some pressure, man. And like, there were no real heavy over-the-top expectations for Luther burden this year. He performed very well. He was their second leading receiver this year behind Colston Loveland. But the pressure on Loveland and Luther Burden and Romadunzee, because he did not have a great year, even adding in injuries this past year,
Starting point is 00:28:28 the pressure would go way up for those guys if you don't have DGIP. Because you look at him, you say, yeah, bears will be okay. There'll probably be other receivers that will come in. Maybe they draft a receiver. but a lot of pressure without DJ more in that room, if that is the case. Well, but frankly, shouldn't that pressure go up anyway? Like, can't you see Ben Johnson putting that pressure on them organically? Sure.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And when he said receivers need to catch the ball better, I thought about them as a core. I did not think about any one individual more so than another. Did certain plays come to mind? Yeah, like, Rome dropping the touchdown ball against the Rams, but that's going to happen. but it was systematic across the group. Yeah, Colston Loveland, who was the darling of that offense at a lot of ways, had some bad drops as well. Burden. Burden's problem is, in air quotes, if you want to talk about his drops issues, he is so intent on running that ball with intention and aggression that sometimes he takes his eye off the ball.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That's fixable, I think. I think, and I don't want to take away that aggression. No, I think it actually is fixable. Yeah, just a little, just a tiny, like a fraction of a second of more focus. That's it. Catch the ball. Then go do your thing. You know what else I think that becomes just more reps with your quarterback.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah. Yeah, there's going to be a ton of that. Because then you're used to where the ball is going on certain plays and you kind of know how to adjust for that. It's very much know your personnel, I think, too. Yeah. Because if he's looking for daylight, I don't want to take that away from him. No, I don't. I just don't want the daylight to close because you didn't actually get the ball.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah, I don't even like bringing. it up because I don't like the idea of taking away, because that's my favorite part about watching Luther Bird. There's a lot of guys who are good after the catch, but the aggression with which he were the intentions that he has, he's ready to make contact. You don't always see that from receivers.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Because he knows how to use his body. Yeah, he's strong. When you see a bigger body wide receiver like that, able to know how to shield and use his shoulders and his core and really some pad level to his advantage like that, to know how to shield a defender, at least like
Starting point is 00:30:38 shake him off for enough time to get more yak and rack. That's an art. That is hard to find. And I think that is partially why the bears were so thrilled to get him where they did. Yeah. Yeah, just hold on to the football. But yeah, no, you're right. No matter what, even if DJ Moore is there,
Starting point is 00:30:53 everybody goes up. Like what was expected out of Luther Burden this year will go up a notch. Roma Dunzee, come on, man. You know what I mean? Like, show us that you were worth where you were drafted. So it's a big year for Rome. I mean, that's a good question. Like, for whom is it the biggest year in that wide receiver room?
Starting point is 00:31:12 Sounds like it takes the North Podcast slash Rahimi Harris Grody topic idea. Ooh, by the way, I think the dog I was actually trying to think of. Tyler, write that down. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, this is your first day of writing stuff down. Congratulations. Wow. You hear it.
Starting point is 00:31:25 You got a good palate over there, man. I love it. Mini golden doodle. I think that's what it is, the mini golden doodle. There's a lot of dog mixes that I did not account for. I know. But I've always thought that if I got a dog, I would get a big dog. But I think that at this point, more high-rise style, lifestyle, and having a cat, I'd probably go small dog.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah, think about how much cardio Dave needs. And now think about a bigger dog. That's true. But I could run that dog. You know, I could take that dog out. We can go running, hanging out. I don't know if Dave would be happy about that, though. Well, you could take Dave along.
Starting point is 00:32:04 There are cats I know who go on walks. Dave is not one of those cats You never know Fear pressure may get him to fold Dave is scared of the outside world He's a unique cat Face your fears Dave Yeah Dave
Starting point is 00:32:18 I know you're listening bud Well Mitch was listening when we threatened To spill everything all over the studio Just a little Little's okay You really sound like a dog marking his territory Spraying down the keyboard in here Before Spiegel and Holmes come in
Starting point is 00:32:35 Hey, by the way, Lawrence Holmes and Matt Spiegel will continue the Bears' conversation this afternoon. They have quite the guest lineup. We've got to listen to this because we need to hear what they have to say. What you got? Anthony Heron is at 325. Oh, he's always on. How dare you? Do you want to face Anthony Heron, aka Quadzilla?
Starting point is 00:32:53 You want to go three-point stance on the line with him right now? I love you, Big Ed. That one was a kick in the nards. What is that from? Nice job. Butte, you're having a day over there, buddy. That's amazing. Okay, well, how do you feel about this?
Starting point is 00:33:08 Olin Croutes is at four. Oh, cruz-y! And guess who's at five? Mark Potash. Really? Yeah, Poppy. It's still my heart. Tune in to Spiegel and Holmes from 2 to 6, right here on the score.
Starting point is 00:33:22 You can watch live on YouTube and on Twitch. Okay. Can't wait. Next. Reggie Miller. Why are you, why is this the hill you're going to die on? Why? Stop doing this to Caitlin Clark.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Next. Rahimi Harrison Grody, midday's 10 to 2 on 1043 the score. This is Rahimi Harrison Grody on 1043, the score. This is the throwback right here. If you miss 1043 jams, I'm sorry. But you might be pleasantly surprised to what you hear on B96. And maybe this song would pop in. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:34:05 How Deep Is Your Love by Drew Hill? This is classic. We're going to have Jarl rule in studio, too, just to satiate that itch, scratch the it. Jarl rule? Yeah, I mean, come on, man. We do request return music. Just like Jarl rule was the identity of what it was jams, 1043, wasn't it? Mariah.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I feel like Mariah had a big steak in 1043. Oh, yeah, Biggie, of course. Yes. Tupac, you know the big Tupac painting. Where did that go, by the way? Somebody took it out of the hallway. Ray? Ray.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Ray. I am a huge Tupac fan, but. I don't know. With all due respect, it's too back. So we get a lot of memorabilia in the station because, you know, it's artist stuff that they'll give as a thank you. Or sometimes we have it commissioned like art. And I am curious as to the whereabouts of that one. I can't believe Reggie Miller is doing this.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So like Reggie Miller, a bit ago, said on Sunday Night Basketball on NBC that this is his cop in the NBA for Caitlin Clark. She's a one of ones, but is there like a comparison of somebody that you played with that you guys watching the game right now that reminds you of the young lady to your right? I like Peyton Pritchard from Boston, the way he's able to handle the basketball. He makes big shots when the shot clock's running down. A lot like this young lady right here isn't afraid of the big moment and is the champion like she's soon to be. Peyton Pritchard is not nearly as prolific as Caitlin Clark was. If Caitlin Clark had been healthy, she would have been in the top three in assists. She would have been in the top three percent in three-point percentage. Like, what are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:35:49 What is the comp? The NBA comp? Yeah. I mean, Caitlin Clark is at least a top, I'd say, seven talent in the W. So, like, you got a comp her with like a NBA superstar. I'm trying to figure out the scale he was using, like, superstar and superstar, or literally that skill set is similar to her skill set. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Well, it's got to be somebody who has higher assist numbers, but you'd think, okay, Reggie, that was a bit of a stretch, given that Peyton Pritchard is more of a specialist on a role player on a team. He doubled down on this with Dan Patrick for the career? Let's go back a couple of weeks. You're there with Caitlin Clark.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Mm-hmm. And you say to the other, guys on the NBC set that her play reminds you of Peyton Pritchard. Mm-hmm. Okay. You see Peyton Pritchard last night. Does he say anything about that comparison to Caitlin Clark? Well, we had the conversation because when I said that, it was a Sunday night game.
Starting point is 00:36:56 It was our first Sunday night game. It was in New York. It just so happened. We had a game Tuesday in Dallas with Boston. And obviously, everything blew up after that because they're saying her look like she felt disrespected. This is people saying she felt disrespected. And the question from Maria to me was, who does her game
Starting point is 00:37:15 remind you of? It wasn't the question of historically or stature-wise, who is she compared to? Because if that was the case, obviously the WMBA, she has brought so much attention and eyes like a Stephen Curry. So if that was the question, then I'm probably should have said Stefan Curry, but I was going by game alone.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Like, who does her game remind me of? And when I look at Peyton Pritchard, and if you've watched Peyton Pritcher, which you've seen a lot because you live in that area, they're very similar. Now, he's probably a better score once he gets into the pain. But I was talking about in terms she loves to go left and that step back three, deep three. That's Peyton Pritcher.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Throw ahead, get the ball back, big quick moves, assist. To me, that was Peyton Pritcher. I think people got caught up because it wasn't a huge name. You know, people said, you could have said, Damian Lillard, you could have said, Trey Young, you could have said Stefan Curry. I was comparing the games, guys, not the stature of Caitlin Clark. Did you see her reaction, though? She was surprised with what you said.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I didn't see her reaction until everyone was like, did you see her reaction? I was like, I was talking about the game. What? Well. Okay, one part of the game, but not necessarily the assists. You know, maybe Dame or Steph is a better cop because of the three point plus what else they can do, like the pace. But just maybe he values Peyton Pritchard more than I possibly understand. Is that it?
Starting point is 00:38:57 Who's the NBA player now that puts the most eyeballs on the screen on a day, on a nightly basis in the NBA right now. Because that's the cop. Like, it's not Steph Curry. I don't know who it is. It might be Anthony Edwards. Is it Anthony Edwards? Like, like that people are obsessed over.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Also, by the way, did you guys see the story about Anthony Edwards saying that I would assumeer has immediately improved the Minnesota Timberwolves' pace? Of course he did. I'm like, that's nice. Glad he did that for you. I was going to, I can't wait to like talk about Iowa. I mean, Luca is the dude. LeBron is still somebody who gets eyeballs.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I would say SGA, say Shea Gilgis Alexander. But Anthony Edwards is probably the one that people really are gravitating. Yeah. From a highlight real standpoint. Okay. Then that's probably a better count. But Ant's game is inside and stuff. He's a dunker.
Starting point is 00:39:50 You know, he does shoot a three, but he's a run down the court like his hair is on fire and then high shooting for a sentence. Okay. Am I wrong on that? I feel like that's... I think Ant is the person where my mind went to. I mean, you know, I mean, I... I immediately thought of Luca with Caitlin, but the problem is I didn't know if that was me or my bias.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You know? Yeah, I get that. I got to check myself. I have a update here from when we had Parkinson on earlier. Parkins update. I mean, actually, this is from Bob. You ready for this? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:26 This is from Bob Tree. This is from Robbie Triano. Oh, God. He says, I do tie his shoes. take me back. He keeps me locked in a dark basement, full of goo. Lies, Robbie Triano, lies. We see your posts on Instagram about how much you love New York and how you're out of all these shows.
Starting point is 00:40:49 You're getting pizza. I can't believe I'm in New York. Look at this. And Robbie's like, I'm here in New York. And then he like shows some quintessential New York thing like Times Square or like, you know, fold will crust pizza or he's at some DJ show. Robbie's out here living. Where's this mythical basement you speak of?
Starting point is 00:41:06 Yeah, Robbie, I'm concerned about the goo you mentioned. Yeah, I don't know about that. I mean, it's like goo. I mean, goo. That sounds like a Parkinson's word. By the way, Bute, don't worry. We ain't taking them back at this point. He left us.
Starting point is 00:41:18 There ain't no coming back. So be secure. He accused Danny in the open of abandoning us. And then he abandons us. Right. Hurt people, hurt people. Right. Not only they abandoned us.
Starting point is 00:41:27 As soon as he got there, he started telling everybody in Chicago how great Manhattan is. That doesn't go over real well here in Shytown, Robbie. 6-30 with a good one. Maybe Pete Clay Thompson. That's not a bad thought. The comp? Like as a player?
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah. Okay. Was Clay the big assist guy too? Yeah. Like he's double double. Splash brothers, man. They would assist to each other. I just think of the shooting when it comes to Clay.
Starting point is 00:41:55 How can you not? Yeah. God, that was a time. Shoot or shoot because Clay dates Megan the Stallion. So. Does he really? Really? Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:03 The stallion? That's right. How did I miss that? I'm slipping on my game. Yeah, I didn't know. Clay Thompson's game is better than it's ever been. Man. Also, what an upgrade for her from her past axes, huh?
Starting point is 00:42:15 Who was her most recent prior to that? Torrey Lanes, but that ended poorly. She also did date a former bull. Bulls. Oh, wait. It was a... Dragging tarlack? Tori Clark.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I had 2001 on my mind. I don't know why. Tori Craig. You know, I'm nostalgic. Torrey Craig. Shout out to Tori Craig. That's right. And like my favorite was when it said on People magazine,
Starting point is 00:42:44 she dates Bull Star Tori Craig. And I'm like, Bull Star. John Lucas. You better put Star on that name. Well, the dumbest question I've ever asked out loud was when I was like, oh, why does Tori Craig have TC the Minnesota Twins logo on his shoulder? And Patrick the PR guy goes, his initials? Tori Craig and I was like, aha, there it is.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Is that my bestie and a Tessie? Yeah. What? Doja. I'm going to Doja now. Is that my bestie to Tessie? I say that to my niece all the time. Shout out to Madeline.
Starting point is 00:43:23 You've gotten a dog recommendation. We're besties. We are besties and we say that. Is that my bestie and a Tessie? Yeah. Tesla. Grotie's nieces. They're keeping us all young over here.
Starting point is 00:43:34 They are. 815 says you need a bull match. They have five minutes of energy a day. They only want to go outside two to three times a day. Oh, that's great. It's my lifestyle. Perfect. That is. Stigl and Holmes join us next.

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